20-Apr-93 21:08:21-GMT,2398;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from cc.utah.edu by math.utah.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-utah-csc-server) id AA12807; Tue, 20 Apr 93 15:08:19 MDT Received: from IRLEARN.UCD.IE (MAILER@IRLEARN) by CC.UTAH.EDU with PMDF#10043; Tue, 20 Apr 1993 15:04 MST Received: by IRLEARN (Mailer R2.08) id 1904; Tue, 20 Apr 93 21:46:01 GMT Date: Tue, 20 Apr 93 21:46:00 GMT From: ListEARN List Processor (1.3) Subject: Your subscription to list TWGTFD-L To: Nelson Beebe Cc: Peter Flynn Message-Id: <1589B315E2004450@CC.UTAH.EDU> X-Envelope-To: beebe@MATH.UTAH.EDU Dear networker, As of Tuesday, April the 20th of 1993, you have been added to the LISTEARN distribution list TWGTFD-L (TeX Users Group TeXnical Working Group on TeX for the Disabled) by Peter Flynn . You may leave the list at any time by sending a "SIGNOFF TWGTFD-L" command to LISTSERV@IRLEARN.BITNET. 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Virtually, The LISTEARN management 21-Apr-93 17:02:32-GMT,3150;000000000001 Return-Path: <@VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU:TWGTFD-L@IRLEARN.BITNET> Received: from cc.utah.edu by math.utah.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-utah-csc-server) id AA04431; Wed, 21 Apr 93 11:02:26 MDT Received: from VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU (MAILER@UIUCVMD) by CC.UTAH.EDU with PMDF#10043; Wed, 21 Apr 1993 10:53 MST Received: from VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UIUCVMD) by VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 3590; Wed, 21 Apr 1993 11:37:11 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 17:37:02 GMT From: "Michael J. Ferguson" Subject: {2} Re: {1} TeX and unexpected results: In-Reply-To: <93Apr19.211422edt.10150@ugw.utcc.utoronto.ca> Sender: TeX Users Group TeXnical Working Group on TeX for the Disabled To: Nelson Beebe Reply-To: TeX Users Group TeXnical Working Group on TeX for the Disabled Message-Id: X-Envelope-To: beebe@MATH.UTAH.EDU > > Hi, > This is my first posting on the special mailing list started for discussing > issues related to TeX and persons with special needs. > > I would like to open the following topic for discussion on this list. > > I am also Cc-ing this message to Chris Rowley, Nelson BeeBee and BNB, > (I would like you to subscribe to this list if possible) > > TeX is especially suitable for use by someone who cannot see the final > output since for the most part the output can be predicted from > looking at the input. There are a few rather disturbing exceptions, (I > have been bitten by them in the past) > > One of them is when you type a '>' or '<' when in text mode. TeXperts > will of course tell you that this will produce an inverted question > mark and an inverted exclamation point, and there is a perfectly > logical reason why this happens, but it is unpleasant all the same. > > I would like to know what people's thoughts are on doing away with > such inconsistencies in Latex3. This has been fixed with the "Cork" encoding in DC fonts. The symbols are completely consistent across all DC text fonts. > > The fact that '<' and '>' are not present in the regular font used in > text mode is no reason why TeX should be allowed to produce mysterious > symbols on the paper based on the ascii value of the input character! > > Ideally the inverted exclamation etc. should be produced only by > special control sequences ie they should be treated just like accents > umlauts etc. If a particular character does not appear in a font, then > TeX should generate an error message, or at least a readable warning > message about unexpected results. > Chris, could you also forward this message to Frank? Please ask him to > join this list if possible as well. > > Looking forward to generating some useful discussion, > > --Raman ---------------------------------------------------------- Prof. Michael J. Ferguson Tel: (514) 765-7834 INRS-Telecommunications FAX: (514) 761-8501 Univ. du Quebec Email: mike@vimy.inrs-telecom.uquebec.ca 16 Place du Commerce Home: (514) 486-3059 Verdun, Quebec H3E 1H6 Canada 6-May-93 15:54:32-GMT,1993;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from cc.utah.edu by math.utah.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-utah-csc-server) id AA17231; Thu, 6 May 93 09:54:28 MDT Received: from HEARN.NIC.SURFNET.NL (MAILER@HEARN) by CC.UTAH.EDU with PMDF#10043; Thu, 6 May 1993 09:53 MST Received: from NIC.SURFNET.NL (NJE origin LISTSERV@HEARN) by HEARN.NIC.SURFNET.NL (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 3627; Thu, 6 May 1993 17:51:15 +0200 Date: Thu, 6 May 93 10:27:34 -0400 From: "T. V. Raman" Subject: {1} Re: {?} new style: shapepar.sty Sender: TeX Users Group TeXnical Working Group on TeX for the Disabled To: Nelson Beebe Reply-To: TeX Users Group TeXnical Working Group on TeX for the Disabled Message-Id: <7CB89BC480009C50@CC.UTAH.EDU> X-Envelope-To: beebe@MATH.UTAH.EDU X-To: asnd%TRIUMFCL.BITNET@SHSU.edu X-Cc: twgtfd-l@irlearn.ucd.ie Hi! Thanks for posting shapepar.sty, I think it's a wonderful package. What I like most about it is that it completely abstracts the shape related details from the text! I use a talking computer, and I think shapepar is a great example of how TeX can be used to achieve really good visual effects without actually making the electronic source unusable by any other program. I'm also cross posting this message to twgtfd-l, the mailing list that discusses uses of TeX for persons with special needs. This said, could you post on the net any other shapes you define using shapepar? Not only does shapepar preserve the usability of TeX documents by a parallel systme that I am developing to produce audio renderings, it helps me use interesting visual effects in my own TeX documents. Thanks, --Raman -- T. V. Raman Tel: (607)255-9202 R 272-3649 Office: 4116 Upson Hall, Department of Computer Science, Cornell University Ithaca NY 14853-6201 Res: 226 Bryant Avenue Ithaca NY 14850 26-Aug-93 19:46:25-GMT,1710;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from odin.shsu.edu by math.utah.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-utah-csc-server) id AA28252; Thu, 26 Aug 93 13:46:22 MDT Errors-To: TWG-Mgr@SHSU.edu X-Listname: TUG Technical Working group -- Archives (WG-92-05) Warnings-To: <> Errors-To: TWG-Mgr@SHSU.edu Sender: TWG-Mgr@SHSU.edu Received: by SHSU.edu (MX V3.3 VAX) id 2491; Thu, 26 Aug 1993 14:43:51 CST Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 14:42:18 CST From: "George D. Greenwade" Reply-To: TWG-TAG@SHSU.edu To: Steve.Millendorf@HauppaugeNY.NCR.COM Cc: twg-tag@SHSU.edu Message-Id: <009719A7.AA1BF1E0.2491@SHSU.edu> Subject: Re: CTAN mirrors?? On 26 Aug 93 14:00:53 EST, Steve Millendorf replied to my query posted to INFO-TeX about CTAN mirrors with: > I am trying to mirror the system archive on a PC. Eventually, I will try > to make it available by modem for those that do not have ftp access. > > Steve > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Steve Millendorf "Life is what happens while > Applied Digital Data Systems your making other plans" > An NCR/AT&T Company > Steve.Millendorf@HauppaugeNY.NCR.COM > --------Somebody told me these were my views and nobody elses--------- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for the information. I will catalog this for future reference. When you are ready, I would sincerely appreciate it if you could provide some documentation on access, etc., to your host (which, at your option, I can include in a public area on the CTAN). If I may be of assistance in your work on this, please let me know. --George 8-Aug-1994 0:42:43-GMT,1788;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from cc.utah.edu by math.utah.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-utah-csc-server) id AA06206; Sun, 7 Aug 94 18:42:38 MDT Received: from VM42.CSO.UIUC.EDU (MAILER@UIUCVM42) by CC.UTAH.EDU with PMDF#10043; Sun, 7 Aug 1994 18:38 MST Received: from VM42.CSO.UIUC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UIUCVM42) by VM42.CSO.UIUC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8510; Fri, 5 Aug 1994 21:54:43 +0000 Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 16:28:40 -0400 From: raman@CRL.DEC.COM Subject: Online AsTeR Demo on the WWW: Sender: TeX Users Group TeXnical Working Group on TeX for the Disabled To: Multiple recipients of list TWGTFD-L Reply-To: TeX Users Group TeXnical Working Group on TeX for the Disabled Message-Id: X-Envelope-To: beebe@MATH.UTAH.EDU X-To: twgtfd-l@irlearn.ucd.ie AsTeR --Audio System For Technical Readings-- is a computing system that exploits the display-independent nature of electronic information to orally render technical documents marked up in La)TeX. You can experience an interactive demo of AsTeR on the World Wide Web at http://www.cs.cornell.edu/Info/People/raman/aster/demo.html This hypertext document presents a collection of math examples rendered in audio by AsTeR and in Postscript by LaTeX/DVIPS. It aptly brings out the power of the Web in publishing multimedia documents: none of my journal publications come with online demos. It also emphasizes the display-independent nature of electronic markup documents; both the audio formatted version and the visually laid out Postscript were generated from the same LaTeX source. --Raman email: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/Info/People/raman/raman.html 13-Aug-1994 12:20:20-GMT,2402;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from cc.utah.edu by math.utah.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-utah-csc-server) id AA12989; Sat, 13 Aug 94 06:20:15 MDT Received: from VM42.CSO.UIUC.EDU (MAILER@UIUCVM42) by CC.UTAH.EDU with PMDF#10043; Sat, 13 Aug 1994 06:20 MST Received: from VM42.CSO.UIUC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UIUCVM42) by VM42.CSO.UIUC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0364; Sat, 13 Aug 1994 12:19:31 +0000 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 08:14:06 -0400 From: raman@CRL.DEC.COM Subject: Enhanced AsTeR demo on the WWW: Sender: TeX Users Group TeXnical Working Group on TeX for the Disabled To: Multiple recipients of list TWGTFD-L Reply-To: TeX Users Group TeXnical Working Group on TeX for the Disabled Message-Id: X-Envelope-To: beebe@MATH.UTAH.EDU X-To: twgtfd-l@irlearn.ucd.ie The response to the initial AsTeR demo has been very good; over 5,000 accesses in under a week from 650 hosts spread over 34 different domains. In response to user feedback, I have now set up an enhanced demo that uses inline images to display the math --clicking on the image produces the audio rendering. The new demo is accessible via the original demo (see below) or directly at http://www.cs.cornell.edu/Info/People/raman/aster/aster-toplevel.html AsTeR --Audio System For Technical Readings-- is a computing system that exploits the display-independent nature of electronic information to orally render technical documents marked up in La)TeX. You can experience an interactive demo of AsTeR on the World Wide Web at http://www.cs.cornell.edu/Info/People/raman/aster/demo.html This hypertext document presents a collection of math examples rendered in audio by AsTeR and in Postscript by LaTeX/DVIPS. It aptly brings out the power of the Web in publishing multimedia documents: none of my journal publications come with online demos. It also emphasizes the display-independent nature of electronic markup documents; both the audio formatted version and the visually laid out Postscript were generated from the same LaTeX source. --Raman email: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/Info/People/raman/raman.html P.S. I would appreciate further user feedback. Also, if you download the thesis, (about 40 copies were downloaded last week) please send me a note. 31-Aug-1994 4:10:34-GMT,4210;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from cc.utah.edu by math.utah.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-utah-csc-server) id AA13164; Tue, 30 Aug 94 22:10:30 MDT Received: from VM42.CSO.UIUC.EDU (MAILER@UIUCVM42) by CC.UTAH.EDU with PMDF#10043; Tue, 30 Aug 1994 22:10 MST Received: from VM42.CSO.UIUC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UIUCVM42) by VM42.CSO.UIUC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2030; Wed, 31 Aug 1994 04:09:18 +0000 Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 20:55:27 -0400 From: PROF NORM COOMBS Subject: Have You Hugged Your Computer Today? Sender: TeX Users Group TeXnical Working Group on TeX for the Disabled To: Multiple recipients of list TWGTFD-L Reply-To: TeX Users Group TeXnical Working Group on TeX for the Disabled Message-Id: X-Envelope-To: beebe@MATH.UTAH.EDU X-To: nfb-rd@nfbcal.org, sound@PASCAL.ACM.ORG, pcd-fyi@pcd.Stanford.EDU, twgtfd-l@irlearn.ucd.ie, infogroup@cs.cornell.edu, GUTNBERG@UIUCVMD.bitnet People always talk about computers being cold and depersonalizing, but, after more than 30 years of teaching, my use of computers in education resulted in my being hugged by a coed. I am totally blind, and the student is deaf. We used the computer to communicate. To read the full story, you'll have to also read the intervening material on the importance of making computers and information technology accessible to persons with disabilities. . . . EASI (Equal Access to Software and Information) is dedicated to disseminating information on adaptive computing. It can open new worlds for faculty, staff and students. Besides providing better access to education, it can open doors to employment. EASI and RIT (The Rochester Institute of Technology) provide a three-week, online workshop called adapt-it to provide a wealth of information about disabilities, adaptive computing and the Americans With Disabilities Act. The fee for the workshop is $125. All materials are delivered using email. Besides providing carefully researched and written information, this provides ample opportunity for participants to share experiences and ask questions. Members learn as much from one another as from their instructors. The next presentation of adapt-it will begin on September 19. There will also be workshops in November, January and April. To get more information about the adapt-it workshop, send email to: listserver@listserv.isc.rit.edu with these two words of text: info adapt-it To see a syllabus of the adapt-it workshop, send email to the same address, but with these two words: info workshop To join the workshop, send email to the same address with the following text: sub adapt-it (and your name in quotes). In return, you will receive information on payment and participation. Please forward this mail to as many people as you know who are or should be interested in taking such a workshop. . . . As Paul Harvey says: "and now for the rest of the story: I make increasing use of computer mediated communication in most of my history classes. My students submit their work in email, and my computer reads it to me. I return grades the same way. I often use it to engage students in group discussions where they are usually less inhibited. The discussions also permit more reflection by the students and often produce a better quality discussion. One deaf girl in my class was ready to drop the course on hearing of the computer use. I had her come to my office and we swapped the keyboard back and forth using the computer to communicate. I wrote, and she read. She wrote, and my computer talked to me. By the end of the course, she returned to chat and check that she had completed all her work. Then, she thanked me for forcing her to learn the use of the computer and said it had really been beneficial to me. At this point, she put her head on my shoulder and gave me a hug. (OH, yes, the office door was wide open!) Still, it was my first coed hug since I quit being a student. To learn more about EASI, send email to EASI@EDUCOM.EDU 9-Jan-95 10:40:16-GMT,1777;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from cc.utah.edu by math.utah.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-utah-csc-server) id AA05270; Mon, 9 Jan 95 03:40:14 MST Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (MAILER@UGA) by CC.UTAH.EDU with PMDF#10043; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 03:40 MST Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UGA) by UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 4324; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 05:41:54 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 11:26:42 +0100 From: heimsoth Subject: asking for advise Sender: TeX Users Group TeXnical Working Group on TeX for the Disabled To: Multiple recipients of list TWGTFD-L Reply-To: TeX Users Group TeXnical Working Group on TeX for the Disabled Message-Id: X-Envelope-To: beebe@MATH.UTAH.EDU Dear list-owner, we are two students who are doing a survey on the use of computer aided telecommunication by handicapped people and their experiences with their system. This is a part of our studies at the University of Kaiserslautern, Germany. For this survey we would like to send two questionnaires, each of about 150 lines to your list. The first one addresses to vocational net users the second one to private net users. Therefore we would be glad if you could answer the following two questions. 1. Is it possible to send the questionnaires to the list and if so, without receiving all the other posted messages ? (The questionaire will include our personal e-mail address and advise the readers not to use the reply function.) 2. How many people (approx.) are subscribed to your list ? (This is important for the survey.) Many thanks for your help. Sincerely Martin Desgranges and Jens Heimsoth 10-Jan-95 19:33:41-GMT,1389;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from cc.utah.edu by math.utah.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-utah-csc-server) id AA20024; Tue, 10 Jan 95 12:33:31 MST Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (MAILER@UGA) by CC.UTAH.EDU with PMDF#10043; Tue, 10 Jan 1995 12:33 MST Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UGA) by UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0578; Tue, 10 Jan 1995 14:34:07 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 08:34:00 -0500 From: raman@CRL.DEC.COM Subject: asking for advise In-Reply-To: <9501091047.AA02031@cloyd.cs.cornell.edu> Sender: TeX Users Group TeXnical Working Group on TeX for the Disabled To: Multiple recipients of list TWGTFD-L Reply-To: TeX Users Group TeXnical Working Group on TeX for the Disabled Message-Id: <0ECEF439120B513D@CC.UTAH.EDU> X-Envelope-To: beebe@MATH.UTAH.EDU X-To: TeX Users Group TeXnical Working Group on TeX for the Disabled Hi, The list membership on this list is not very high. Also, the questionaire is not exactly appropriate to the currently subscribed members, most of whom are interested in uses of TeX by persons with disabilities. I recommend you mail your questionaire to the following lists: 1) usenet group misc.handicapped. (moderated) 2) internet: easi-l easi-l@SJUVM.STJOHNS.EDU 17-Feb-95 7:06:09-GMT,2295;000000000001 Received: from cc.utah.edu (cc.utah.edu [128.110.48.3]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA26831 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 1995 00:06:01 -0700 Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (MAILER@UGA) by CC.UTAH.EDU with PMDF#10043; Fri, 17 Feb 1995 00:05 MST Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UGA) by UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3753; Fri, 17 Feb 1995 02:06:58 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 10:28:13 PST From: csacheng Subject: [Q]: LaTeX grammar checking and Chinese LaTeX Sender: TeX Users Group TeXnical Working Group on TeX for the Disabled To: Multiple recipients of list TWGTFD-L Reply-to: TeX Users Group TeXnical Working Group on TeX for the Disabled Message-id: <82B2C8BC7207CF1A@CC.UTAH.EDU> X-Envelope-to: beebe@MATH.UTAH.EDU X-To: latex-ug@saupm00.bitnet, mutex@csbrmu11.bitnet, texhax-l@irlearn.bitnet, twgtfd-l@irlearn.bitnet, twgmlc-l@irlearn.bitnet Hi all, As I know, TeX (LaTeX) is a typesetting editor. However, when I use LaTeX to prepare my paper in English, I think it is helpful to have a grammar checking utility for the non-native english speaker such as I. Is there any grammar checking utility for LaTeX? Or is there any suggestion to prevent grammatical error when using LaTeX? Besides, I know LaTeX has different version to support different language. Being the Chinese, I want to know whether there is a chinese version of LaTeX, the command is no need to be chinese but can write a document in Chinese. Any relevant information? Best Regards, Antony ************************************************* * Antony Cheng Y. T. * * Department of Computing * * Hong Kong Polytechnic University * * Hung Hom, Kowloon * * HONG KONG * * Telephone: (852) 766 7312 * * Fax: (852) 774 0842 * * Internet: csacheng@cssmptgw.comp.hkp.hk * * csacheng@comp.hkp.hk * ************************************************* 15-Jan-1994 13:34:43-GMT,2950;000000000001 Return-Path: <@VM42.CSO.UIUC.EDU:owner-twgtfd-l@IRLEARN.UCD.IE> Received: from cc.utah.edu by math.utah.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-utah-csc-server) id AA06086; Sat, 15 Jan 94 06:34:31 MST Received: from VM42.CSO.UIUC.EDU (MAILER@UIUCVM42) by CC.UTAH.EDU with PMDF#10043; Sat, 15 Jan 1994 06:34 MST Received: from VM42.CSO.UIUC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UIUCVM42) by VM42.CSO.UIUC.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 0619; Wed, 12 Jan 1994 00:56:45 +0000 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 16:20:35 MST From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown Sender: TeX Users Group TeXnical Working Group on TeX for the Disabled To: Multiple recipients of list TWGTFD-L Reply-To: TeX Users Group TeXnical Working Group on TeX for the Disabled Message-Id: X-Envelope-To: beebe@MATH.UTAH.EDU Comments: Resent-From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Comments: Originally-From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 421 Host core1ux.ucl.ac.be not found for mailer tcp. 550 ... Host unknown 421 Host irlearn.bitne not found for mailer tcp. 550 ... Host unknown ----- Unsent message follows ----- Return-Path: Received: from solitude.math.utah.edu by math.utah.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-utah-csc-ser ver) id AA13728; Tue, 11 Jan 94 12:31:45 MST Date: Tue, 11 Jan 94 12:31:45 MST From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" To: raman@cs.cornell.edu (T V Raman) Cc: beebe, tvz@core1ux.ucl.ac.be, twgtfd-l@irlearn.bitne, beebee@math.utah.edu X-Us-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, South Physics, University of Utah, Salt Lake City, UT 84112" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-Fax: +1 801 581 4148 Subject: Re: 'drawing trees' macros wanted In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 10 Jan 94 10:01:23 -0500 Message-Id: There is a modest bibliography on drawing of trees on ftp.math.utah.edu in /pub/tex/bib in the files trees.*; there are 13 references collected there. ======================================================================== Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 581 4148 Department of Mathematics, 105 JWB Internet: beebe@math.utah.edu University of Utah Salt Lake City, UT 84112, USA ======================================================================== ======================================================================== Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 581 4148 Department of Mathematics, 105 JWB Internet: beebe@math.utah.edu University of Utah Salt Lake City, UT 84112, USA ======================================================================== 20-Jun-1996 9:58:24-GMT,2620;000000000001 Received: from IRLEARN.UCD.IE (irlearn.ucd.ie [137.43.1.1]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA17793 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 03:58:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from IRLEARN.UCD.IE by IRLEARN.UCD.IE (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2781; Thu, 20 Jun 96 09:47:28 GMT Received: from IRLEARN.UCD.IE (NJE origin LISTSERV@IRLEARN) by IRLEARN.UCD.IE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5859; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 16:00:22 +0000 Received: from IRLEARN.UCD.IE by IRLEARN.UCD.IE (LISTSERV release 1.8b) with NJE id 5169 for TWGTFD-L@IRLEARN.UCD.IE; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 16:00:20 +0000 Received: from IRLEARN (NJE origin SMTP@IRLEARN) by IRLEARN.UCD.IE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5857; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 16:00:19 +0000 Received: from hermes.ucd.ie by IRLEARN.UCD.IE (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 19 Jun 96 16:00:15 GMT Received: from ccserv.ucc.ie by hermes.ucd.ie (PMDF V5.0-3 #16181) id <0DT8UP9A800GW9@hermes.ucd.ie> for twgtfd-l@irlearn.ucd.ie; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 12:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from curia by CCSERV.UCC.IE (PMDF #3468 ) id <01I63BU6FQ28008DGQ@CCSERV.UCC.IE>; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 12:01:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: (from pflynn@localhost) by curia.ucc.ie (8.6.10/8.6.10) id MAA21768 for twgtfd-l@irlearn.ucd.ie; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 12:03:42 +0100 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Message-ID: <199606191103.MAA21768@curia.ucc.ie> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 12:03:42 +0100 Reply-To: TeX Users Group TeXnical Working Group on TeX for the Disabled Sender: TeX Users Group TeXnical Working Group on TeX for the Disabled From: Peter Flynn Subject: LISTSERV problem To: Multiple recipients of list TWGTFD-L >From SHUTDOWN@IRLEARN.UCD.IE Wed Jun 19 06:30:22 1996 Date: 18 Jun 1996 18:44:54 +0000 (GMT) From: VM Shutdown System Subject: LISTSERV Problem To: pflynn@curia.ucc.ie X-Envelope-to: pflynn@curia.ucc.ie Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-Length: 464 X-Lines: 10 Hello, A hardware fault occurred on our system over the weekend of 15/16 June. 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