From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sat Aug 1 06:03:31 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA17833 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 1998 06:03:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA11647 for pdftex-list; Sat, 1 Aug 1998 08:00:10 -0400 Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by tug.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA11643 for ; Sat, 1 Aug 1998 08:00:08 -0400 Received: from fgbbs.iaf.nl by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA18813 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for pdftex@tug.org); Sat, 1 Aug 1998 13:14:48 +0200 Received: by fgbbs.iaf.nl (0.99.950801) id AA06081; 01 Aug 98 12:11:11 +0100 From: fg@fgbbs.iaf.nl (Frans Goddijn) Date: 01 Aug 98 10:44:00 +0100 Subject: new PDF for dos users? Message-Id: <2ed_9808011211@fgbbs.iaf.nl> References: <2c8_9807311321@fgbbs.iaf.nl> <35C24956.D7239417@zgdv.de> Organization: FGBBS at +31 26 3217041 To: pdftex@tug.org Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Wow. If this turns out to be the final word about it then I'm in dire straits. I have put time and effort in conversion from my LaTeX/emTeX installation to PDFtex/ConTeXt, seeing that I need to be able to produce PDF files in the future, and seeing that keeping up with many dozens of new versions of stylefiles to LaTeX makes it hard to keep document production stable, whereas ConTeXt provides a promise of stability. Now, as I'm advised to upgrade to the latest PDFtex and a soon-to-come new ConTeXt, I'd be really stuck in a tight corner if that would be impossible under my current operating system. My OS/2 WARP4 system is stable, it multi-tasks arond the clock running a free-for-all bulletin board system with a TeX/LaTeX/ConTeXt library. I doubt that a move towards Windows will be without serious loss in stability and functionality. Moving to Linux is another mindbogling option, but I doubt that I have the brains to pull that off. Is there by any chance someone out there with the capacity to produce a PDFtex that works in a DOS box? What "DOS-extender" would be possibly helpful? Is there anyone who could produce an executable running under OS/2, for an OS/2 box command line is of course available on my machine, and that's 32 bits all right. I'd be prepared to pay like $50 for such a possiblility to keep clear of Windows ;=} If a 100 OS/2 users more want that, this could be fruitful for the programmer. said Christian Kumpf to All: CK> But more seriously: I guess (and look to the source code tells me CK> that I'm not totally wrong), that a lot of the hacks in pdftex CK> (even more than in the `normal' web2c-based tex) are quite CK> unix-specific (or say posix to be more exact). CK> And there is better compiler support for such code under win32 than CK> under dos. You may try some dos-extenders, but don't expect it to CK> be too easy, since they never tried to reach at least a bit CK> posix-compliance. Met hartelijke groet! Frans Goddijn -- You are what you is From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sun Aug 2 03:51:00 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA10169 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 03:50:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA16202 for pdftex-list; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 05:25:34 -0400 Received: from donald.cybercomm.nl (donald.cybercomm.nl [194.235.113.5]) by tug.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA16199 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 05:25:31 -0400 Received: from pc709 (poort7-ip-x2.enertel.cybercomm.nl [194.235.118.7]) by donald.cybercomm.nl (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id IAA09056; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 08:30:09 -0100 (MET) From: Taco Hoekwater To: Frans Goddijn Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: new PDF for dos users? In-Reply-To: <2ed_9808011211@fgbbs.iaf.nl> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 11:25:00 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.3 Build (39) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 01 Aug 1998 10:44:00 +0100 Frans Goddijn wrote: > > Wow. If this turns out to be the final word about it then I'm in dire > straits. I have put time and effort in conversion from my LaTeX/emTeX > installation to PDFtex/ConTeXt, seeing that I need to be able to produce > PDF files in the future, and seeing that keeping up with many dozens of > new versions of stylefiles to LaTeX makes it hard to keep document > production stable, whereas ConTeXt provides a promise of stability. Unless I am really mistaken, it should compile fairly easily under DJGPP. I know all other progs do so without any problems. DJGPP produces DOS exe's dat only need a DPMI host, which is available in an OS/2 dos box, so it should work (on fat, that is. No hpfs support). It will probably compile under emx as well, but I'm not really sure and don't have it installed. If FAT support is enough, I can try to compile the full web2c 7.2.1 package later this week and post the result. Interested? Taco -- Taco Hoekwater texhelp@wkap.nl Kluwer Academic Publishers -- Pre Press -- Achterom 119, 3311 KB Dordrecht, The Netherlands tel. 31-78-6392550 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sun Aug 2 09:08:21 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14863 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 09:08:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA17325 for pdftex-list; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 11:00:10 -0400 Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by tug.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA17322 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 11:00:08 -0400 Received: from fgbbs.iaf.nl by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA07326 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for pdftex@tug.org); Sun, 2 Aug 1998 16:28:10 +0200 Received: by fgbbs.iaf.nl (0.99.950801) id AA06099; 02 Aug 98 15:24:57 +0100 From: fg@fgbbs.iaf.nl (Frans Goddijn) Date: 02 Aug 98 15:21:00 +0100 Subject: new PDF for dos users? Message-Id: <306_9808021524@fgbbs.iaf.nl> References: Organization: FGBBS at +31 26 3217041 To: pdftex@tug.org Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk said Taco Hoekwater to All: TH> Unless I am really mistaken, it should compile fairly easily under TH> DJGPP. the file which I use now was downloaded from: ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex-testing/pdftex-0.12n/ and I seem to remember the abbreviation "DJGPP" being mentioned somewhere on a page which pointed to that file, so I trust you're right! TH> I know all other progs do so without any problems. DJGPP TH> produces DOS exe's dat only need a DPMI host, which is available in TH> an OS/2 dos box, so it should work indeed TH> (on fat, that is. No hpfs support). I unpacked the files on a HPFS partition so that the files in some subdirs with long filenames retained these long filenames. I doubt they're actually used along the DOS process, but it works here so far... TH> It will probably compile under emx as well, but I'm not really TH> sure and don't have it installed. If FAT support is enough, TH> I can try to compile the full web2c 7.2.1 package later this week I'll be away from monday-thursday so I'll check in on friday with high hopes! TH> and post the result. Interested? Absolutely! And my offer to pay for this stands, but if you don't prefer cahs you can also opt for getting two CD's, one being the latest CD from The Meridian Arts Ensemble from New York entitled "Ear mind I" (anagram for "Meridian") ;=} And you will of course receive my eternal gratitude as bonus. Met hartelijke groet! Frans Goddijn -- You are what you is From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 3 02:10:28 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA01847 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 02:10:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA21036 for pdftex-list; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 04:00:48 -0400 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by tug.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA21033 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 04:00:44 -0400 Received: from wkaxp1.wkap.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SN-SMTP (PP) with ESMTP; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 10:00:18 +0200 Received: from pc709 (pc709.wkap.nl) by wkap.nl (PMDF V5.1-4 #29553) with SMTP id <01J05VHS3VXS005BMV@wkap.nl> for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 10:00:50 +0100 Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 09:59:55 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time) From: Taco Hoekwater Subject: Re: new PDF for dos users? To: pdftex@tug.org Reply-to: Taco Hoekwater Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.3 Build (39) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Authentication: none Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 02 Aug 1998 15:21:00 +0100 Frans Goddijn wrote: > > said Taco Hoekwater to All: > > TH> Unless I am really mistaken, it should compile fairly easily under > TH> DJGPP. > > the file which I use now was downloaded from: > > ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex-testing/pdftex-0.12n/ I used the 0.12-o5, and I had some very minor problems only: "configure" for web2c 7.2 did not replace @pnglibinc@ (fixed by hand) Make said: no rule to make target pdftoepdf.a (there was no Makefile in xpdf-0.7a/xpdf, so I ran 'configure' in xpdf-0.7a) , , in xpdf-0.7a/goo should be "gmem.h" "parseargs.h" "gtypes.h" or there should be a command-line include for the current dir. (fixed by hand) Besides those minor problems, everything seemed to work just fine. So, there is now a zip file with binaries on the following url: http://www.cybercomm.nl/~bittext/pdftex/pdftex-o5-djgpp.zip I'm hoping someone wants to verify that this compile is indeed correct (I hardly ever use pdftex, and certainly not the latest version, so have no way of checking). Greetings, Taco -- Taco Hoekwater texhelp@wkap.nl Kluwer Academic Publishers -- Pre Press -- Achterom 119, 3311 KB Dordrecht, The Netherlands tel. 31-78-6392550 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 3 03:03:54 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA02814 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 03:03:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA21241 for pdftex-list; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 05:00:14 -0400 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA21238 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 05:00:12 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.21.36]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.52) with ESMTP id AAA22C7; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 10:59:54 +0200 Message-ID: <35C56793.F642D1BC@wxs.nl> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 09:32:35 +0200 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christian Kumpf , pdftex Subject: Re: new PDF for dos users? References: <2c8_9807311321@fgbbs.iaf.nl> <35C24956.D7239417@zgdv.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Christian Kumpf wrote: > > Frans Goddijn wrote: > > > I followed the link on the TUG homepage to the latest PDFtex, but on the > > given directories I saw, besides a Windows 32 version, only more exotic > > versions for SPARC etc. computers. > > Nowadays I would consider the DOS box exotic and the sparc common... > > But more seriously: I guess (and look to the source code tells me that > I'm not totally wrong), that a lot of the hacks in pdftex (even more than > in the `normal' web2c-based tex) are quite unix-specific (or say > posix to be more exact). > > And there is better compiler support for such code under win32 than under > dos. You may try some dos-extenders, but don't expect it to be too easy, > since they never tried to reach at least a bit posix-compliance. This is not entirely true, because while Han The Thanh is testing new features, he occasionally posts alpha pdftex versions, generated for DOS using the djggp compiler. There is nothing wrong with those binaries. (Of course I switch to Fabrices win binaries as soon as available.) Actually, I'm not aware of unix specific hacks, while I pull nearly every pdf trick out of the box. Which ones do you refer to? (I'm just currious) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 3 03:23:03 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA03118 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 03:23:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA21311 for pdftex-list; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 05:18:23 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA21308 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 05:18:21 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id KAA10262; hop 0; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 10:12:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 3 Aug 1998 10:18:09 +0100 Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 09:26:48 +0100 Message-ID: <7663-Mon03Aug1998092648+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 8-beta-20 Q); VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: fg@fgbbs.iaf.nl Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: helvetica clone font taken from 4TEX set In-Reply-To: <2d9_9807311629@fgbbs.iaf.nl> References: <2c2_9807311155@fgbbs.iaf.nl> <8198-Fri31Jul1998124038+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> <2d9_9807311629@fgbbs.iaf.nl> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Frans Goddijn writes: > In the PSFONT.MAP of my 4TEX instal I see these lines but they don't seem > to point to "<*.afm / pfb" files at all. This made me wonder how this > could ever work... Helvetica is a `builtin' base font, so needs no PFB file > rphvb Helvetica-Bold > rphvbo Helvetica-BoldOblique horrors. i thought we killed those r* files years ago. 4alltex clearly a little behind the times.... > rphelvbi Helvetica-BoldOblique > I guess that to get into your world so to speak I should revert to these > last lines, as they are more directly connected to "real" helvetica > afm/pfb's? they sound as ancient as the first lot :-} s From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 3 03:29:13 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA03236 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 03:29:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA21346 for pdftex-list; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 05:24:16 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA21342 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 05:24:14 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id KAA10515; hop 0; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 10:18:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 3 Aug 1998 10:24:00 +0100 Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 09:40:00 +0100 Message-ID: <6201-Mon03Aug1998094000+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 8-beta-20 Q); VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: rhowlett@mail.usyd.edu.au Cc: fg@fgbbs.iaf.nl, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: helvetica clone font taken from 4TEX set In-Reply-To: <35C26A5B.ACB8079E@mail.usyd.edu.au> References: <2c2_9807311155@fgbbs.iaf.nl> <8198-Fri31Jul1998124038+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> <2d9_9807311629@fgbbs.iaf.nl> <35C26A5B.ACB8079E@mail.usyd.edu.au> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Robert Howlett writes: > I continue to use a very old setup since > (a) it serves my purposes, so why change? because you want to use newer things? > and > (b) I don't want to have to worry about changing old TeX files. TeX files? or dvi files? the avergae LaTeX file has no mentions of fonts in it > rpagd URWGothicL-Demi ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 03:42:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA21414 for pdftex-list; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 05:35:01 -0400 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by tug.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA21408 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 05:35:00 -0400 Received: from wkaxp1.wkap.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SN-SMTP (PP) with ESMTP; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 11:34:48 +0200 Received: from pc709 (pc709.wkap.nl) by wkap.nl (PMDF V5.1-4 #29553) with SMTP id <01J05YSXHC4W005D5K@wkap.nl> for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 11:35:20 +0100 Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 11:34:25 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time) From: Taco Hoekwater Subject: Re: new PDF for dos users? In-reply-to: <35C56793.F642D1BC@wxs.nl> To: pdftex Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.3 Build (39) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Authentication: none Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 03 Aug 1998 09:32:35 +0200 Hans Hagen wrote: > > But more seriously: I guess (and look to the source code tells me that > > I'm not totally wrong), that a lot of the hacks in pdftex (even more than > > in the `normal' web2c-based tex) are quite unix-specific (or say > > posix to be more exact). > > > > And there is better compiler support for such code under win32 than under > > dos. You may try some dos-extenders, but don't expect it to be too easy, > > since they never tried to reach at least a bit posix-compliance. I doubt this as well. In fact, compiling-porting Linux or FreeBSD programs under DJGPP is generally a lot easier than porting to Win32/NT or porting to unices like HP-UX. (as I proved this morning; all it took was some very, very minor corrections, << 5min work). > This is not entirely true, because while Han The Thanh is testing new > features, he occasionally posts alpha pdftex versions, generated for DOS > using the djggp compiler. There is nothing wrong with those binaries. > (Of course I switch to Fabrices win binaries as soon as available.) I'd prefer win32 native exes as well, but whereas DJGPP works nicely, cygwin definately does not. Which is really sad considering that cygwin is supposed to be the "official" GCC port to win32. Taco -- Taco Hoekwater texhelp@wkap.nl Kluwer Academic Publishers -- Pre Press -- Achterom 119, 3311 KB Dordrecht, The Netherlands tel. 31-78-6392550 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 3 04:01:29 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA03783 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 04:01:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA21495 for pdftex-list; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 05:55:51 -0400 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by tug.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA21492 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 05:55:49 -0400 Received: from wkaxp1.wkap.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SN-SMTP (PP) with ESMTP; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 11:55:39 +0200 Received: from pc709 (pc709.wkap.nl) by wkap.nl (PMDF V5.1-4 #29553) with SMTP id <01J05ZIS5W1S004T6M@wkap.nl>; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 11:56:11 +0100 Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 11:55:17 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time) From: Taco Hoekwater Subject: Re: helvetica clone font taken from 4TEX set In-reply-to: <6201-Mon03Aug1998094000+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> To: Sebastian Rahtz Cc: fg@fgbbs.iaf.nl, pdftex@tug.org, rhowlett@mail.usyd.edu.au Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.3 Build (39) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Authentication: none Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 03 Aug 1998 09:40:00 +0100 Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > Robert Howlett writes: > > I continue to use a very old setup since > > (a) it serves my purposes, so why change? > because you want to use newer things? > > > and > > (b) I don't want to have to worry about changing old TeX files. > TeX files? or dvi files? the avergae LaTeX file has no mentions of > fonts in it The average old latex (209) file that uses ps fonts has an implicit dependancy on the old afmtotfm generated metrics, and will be formatted differently with the new 8r-encoded raw fonts (where rptmr actually *is* ptmr8r). Silly but true. We had the same problem here (and eventually decided to change all the old latex files because that was the only way to stop the tfm file confusion on the harddisk). > > rpagd URWGothicL-Demi if thats your buzz, adobe standard encoding.. lord knows what your > virtual fonts do. they wont be implementing T1, thats for sure I thought that if a font was raw, you would use the internal encoding of the font (that's what raw means, right?) In this case it doesn't matter much (since it is a text font anyway and hardly likely to be used for weird things), but it did matter when somebody mapped the old "raw"s to the reencoded 8r ones: it broke the old mathptm (then called psgreek). -- Taco Hoekwater texhelp@wkap.nl Kluwer Academic Publishers -- Pre Press -- Achterom 119, 3311 KB Dordrecht, The Netherlands tel. 31-78-6392550 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 3 04:22:47 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA04114 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 04:22:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA21597 for pdftex-list; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 06:19:00 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA21592 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 06:18:58 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id LAA12766; hop 0; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 11:12:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 3 Aug 1998 11:18:48 +0100 Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 10:55:52 +0100 Message-ID: <756-Mon03Aug1998105552+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 8-beta-20 Q); VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: TACO.HOEKWATER@wkap.nl Cc: fg@fgbbs.iaf.nl, pdftex@tug.org, rhowlett@mail.usyd.edu.au Subject: Re: helvetica clone font taken from 4TEX set In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk TACO.HOEKWATER@wkap.nl writes: > The average old latex (209) file that uses ps fonts has an implicit > dependancy on the old afmtotfm generated metrics, and will be ah, but what does "that uses ps fonts" mean? there were/are a million and one ways of doing that. > formatted differently with the new 8r-encoded raw fonts (where rptmr > actually *is* ptmr8r). Silly but true. We had the same problem here > (and eventually decided to change all the old latex files because > that was the only way to stop the tfm file confusion on the harddisk). ptmr.tfm/vf has different metrics from ptmr8t.tfm/vf, to cope with this. since thats what *TeX* sees, the raw fonts don't come into it. > I thought that if a font was raw, you would use the internal encoding > of the font (that's what raw means, right?) In this case it doesn't > matter much (since it is a text font anyway and hardly likely to be > used for weird things), but it did matter when somebody mapped the standard encoding (there is no `internal encoding', really) does not make available all the characters in the font that you need to implement T1 encoding sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 3 07:50:30 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA07738 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 07:50:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA22444 for pdftex-list; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 09:46:14 -0400 Received: from extra.ucc.su.OZ.AU (extra.ucc.su.oz.au [129.78.64.4]) by tug.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA22441 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 09:46:10 -0400 Received: from mail.usyd.edu.au (mp-4-50.mp.usyd.edu.au [129.78.56.112]) by extra.ucc.su.OZ.AU (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id XAA00830; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 23:42:28 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <35C5BF8C.2631715C@mail.usyd.edu.au> Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 23:47:56 +1000 From: Robert Howlett X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sebastian Rahtz CC: fg@fgbbs.iaf.nl, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: helvetica clone font taken from 4TEX set References: <2c2_9807311155@fgbbs.iaf.nl> <8198-Fri31Jul1998124038+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> <2d9_9807311629@fgbbs.iaf.nl> <35C26A5B.ACB8079E@mail.usyd.edu.au> <6201-Mon03Aug1998094000+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > Robert Howlett writes: > > I continue to use a very old setup since > > (a) it serves my purposes, so why change? > because you want to use newer things? > > > and > > (b) I don't want to have to worry about changing old TeX files. > TeX files? or dvi files? the avergae LaTeX file has no mentions of > fonts in it I use plain TeX rather than LaTeX. > > > rpagd URWGothicL-Demi if thats your buzz, adobe standard encoding.. lord knows what your > virtual fonts do. they wont be implementing T1, thats for sure Well, the virtual fonts in question must have been fairly standard once; they were certainly not created locally by any of my colleagues. As I understood it, the idea was that ptmr should have the same characters in the same positions as cmr10 (almost). The raw font rptmr by definition is not reencoded, and so I believe things wouldn't work right with some .enc file other than standard.enc. > > sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 3 08:37:49 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA08703 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 08:37:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA22643 for pdftex-list; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 10:31:43 -0400 Received: from eyor.wiwo.nl (eyor.wiwo.nl [194.183.97.14]) by tug.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22640 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 10:31:40 -0400 Received: from RnA.nl (uucp@localhost) by eyor.wiwo.nl (8.8.5/8.6.12) with UUCP id QAA10876 for tug.org!pdftex; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 16:01:56 +0200 Received: by Spike (NX5.67f2/R&A-1.9) id AA26005; Mon, 3 Aug 98 16:15:17 +0200 Message-Id: <9808031415.AA26005@Spike> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next/People/gerben_wierda@rna.nl.tiff X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Gerben Wierda Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 16:15:15 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Please ignore Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sorry for this intrusion, but I need a message on this list to put it into my spam filter. -- Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl (Gerben Wierda) "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud. Dass man fuer die Philosophie ein Interesse zeigt, bezeugt noch keine Bereitschaft zum Denken -- Martin Heidegger From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 3 09:03:49 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA09302 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 09:03:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA22768 for pdftex-list; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 10:58:12 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22765 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 10:58:06 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id PAA23299; hop 0; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 15:51:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 3 Aug 1998 15:57:50 +0100 Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 14:43:24 +0100 Message-ID: <5785-Mon03Aug1998144324+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 8-beta-20 Q); VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: rhowlett@mail.usyd.edu.au Cc: fg@fgbbs.iaf.nl, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: helvetica clone font taken from 4TEX set In-Reply-To: <35C5BF8C.2631715C@mail.usyd.edu.au> References: <2c2_9807311155@fgbbs.iaf.nl> <8198-Fri31Jul1998124038+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> <2d9_9807311629@fgbbs.iaf.nl> <35C26A5B.ACB8079E@mail.usyd.edu.au> <6201-Mon03Aug1998094000+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> <35C5BF8C.2631715C@mail.usyd.edu.au> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Robert Howlett writes: > > I use plain TeX rather than LaTeX. > sounds like we have uncovered a good reason to use LaTeX or Context :-} > Well, the virtual fonts in question must have been fairly standard > once; they were certainly not created locally by any of my colleagues. they came from dvips originally. > As I understood it, the idea was that ptmr should have the same > characters in the same positions as cmr10 (almost). The raw font ^^^^^^^^ quite.... > rptmr by definition is not reencoded, and so I believe things wouldn't > work right with some .enc file other than standard.enc. true. and you are right, in plain TeX world thats as far as you need to go, you (usually) miss out on the glories (?) of the T1 encoding. sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Aug 4 01:11:59 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA00340 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 01:11:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA01314 for pdftex-list; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 03:03:16 -0400 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id DAA01311 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 03:03:14 -0400 Received: from wkaxp1.wkap.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SN-SMTP (PP) with ESMTP; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 09:03:05 +0200 Received: from pc709 (pc709.wkap.nl) by wkap.nl (PMDF V5.1-4 #29553) with SMTP id <01J077S487GW005STK@wkap.nl>; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 09:03:34 +0100 Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 09:02:36 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time) From: Taco Hoekwater Subject: CTAN submission -- Type 1 versions of manfnt and xipaXX To: Rainer Schoepf Cc: metafont@ens.fr, Multiple recipients of list CTAN , pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.3 Build (39) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Authentication: none Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello Rainer, everybody else, I have just uploaded three new zip files to Dante's incoming directory. All three will unzip into the directory structure ps-type1/hoekwater/{afm;pfm}. Contents of the files and desired base locations: wasy.zip (unzip in fonts/wasy2) Contains updated wasy10.pfb: double note character fixed. xipa.zip (unzip in fonts/tipa/beta0624) Contains pfb versions of the five xipaXXXX fonts (10, b10, bx10, sl10, ss10). manfnt.zip (unzip in fonts/cm/utilityfonts/manualfonts) Contains manfnt.pfb. Thanks to Rainer (beforehand) for installing the files, and the rest of you have fun using the fonts. Greetings, Taco -- Taco Hoekwater texhelp@wkap.nl Kluwer Academic Publishers -- Pre Press -- Achterom 119, 3311 KB Dordrecht, The Netherlands tel. 31-78-6392550 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Aug 4 15:53:40 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18399 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 15:53:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA07649 for pdftex-list; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 17:46:47 -0400 Received: from esemetz.ese-metz.fr (root@esemetz.ese-metz.fr [193.48.224.212] (may be forged)) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA07646 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 17:46:43 -0400 Received: from hal9000 (ppp4.ese-metz.fr [193.48.224.224]) by esemetz.ese-metz.fr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA07541; Tue, 4 Aug 1998 23:46:47 +0200 Message-ID: <003f01bdbff2$2d1edc70$e0e030c1@hal9000.ese-metz.fr> From: "Fabrice Popineau" To: "Hans Hagen" , "Christian Kumpf" , "pdftex" Subject: Re: new PDF for dos users? Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 23:52:19 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >(Of course I switch to Fabrices win binaries as soon as available.) Please, ask me directly if you need some new pdftex, as I'm on holydays, with a poor net access. I am not able to read all the messages easily (I lack gnus :-). I'll be back 3 weeks from now. Fabrice From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Aug 5 16:34:21 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA17554 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 16:34:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA11419 for pdftex-list; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 18:21:56 -0400 Received: from jamaica.u.arizona.edu (jamaica.U.Arizona.EDU [128.196.137.18]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA11416 for ; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 18:21:55 -0400 Received: (from mcquaid@localhost) by jamaica.u.arizona.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA23772 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 15:21:57 -0700 Message-ID: <19980805152157.A22092@jamaica.u.arizona.edu> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 15:21:57 -0700 From: Mick McQuaid To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: can't find cleartomark Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.92.5 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I have a problem that may be pdftex-based; i'm not sure. Trying to switch from using Y&Y TeX under Windows 3.1 to using pdftex (0.12l) under Windows NT, I find that some fonts I could formerly use now generate the message "cleartomark" not found when I use the .pfb versions of those fonts (Adobe Garamond Italic, Bold, and BoldItalic), or unexpected end of file when I use the .pfa versions of those fonts. In both cases I can inspect the files to see that they do end with cleartomark. I also tried to compare one of them to a font that DOES still work, but couldn't see any differences. Any suggestions? -- Mick McQuaid, mmcquaid@u.arizona.edu 520-621-4074 office / voice mail From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Aug 6 01:30:34 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA27836 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 01:30:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA12017 for pdftex-list; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 03:26:15 -0400 Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA12014 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 03:26:13 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.20.163]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAACF8; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 09:25:43 +0200 Message-ID: <35C84BE2.B78910B0@wxs.nl> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 14:11:14 +0200 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Petr Sojka CC: pdftex Subject: templates Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi Petr, It is possible to hide pages in pdf (and I have some applications in mind for this). I tried to generate the relevant datastructure (this template business can be reversed engineered from exchange generated pdf code) in pdftex, but lack access to page characteristics. What we need is \pdfpageref, which returns the current page object reference (a bit ambiguous, because this number is only known directly after the shipout, so maybe \pdfpageref is better). But then I still lack the page datastructure. This leads me to thinking that pdtex should have a direct \pdfhidepage or so primitive which again leads me to thinking of page attributes in general. If you think this feature is useful, we should discuss this at TUG98 with Thanh (and taco cs on behalf of some dvi special syntax extensions). Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Aug 6 03:26:03 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA29950 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 03:26:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA12491 for pdftex-list; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 05:22:08 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA12488 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 05:22:06 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id KAA05954; hop 0; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 10:15:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 6 Aug 1998 10:22:01 +0100 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 10:02:20 +0100 Message-ID: <8706-Thu06Aug1998100220+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 8-beta-20 Q); VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: mcquaid@U.Arizona.EDU Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: can't find cleartomark In-Reply-To: <19980805152157.A22092@jamaica.u.arizona.edu> References: <19980805152157.A22092@jamaica.u.arizona.edu> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Mick McQuaid writes: > pdftex (0.12l) under Windows NT, I find that some fonts I get the latest 0.12o, for starters. it fixes some errrors > could formerly use now generate the message > "cleartomark" not found > when I use the .pfb versions of those fonts (Adobe Garamond > Italic, Bold, and BoldItalic), or pdfTeX does not properly grok all the various ways pfb files are written. in my experience so far, you can dissassemble funny fonts, edit them, and reassemble, and it works, but the details are rather complicated (ie I have not got them written down). sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Aug 6 04:20:10 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA00847 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 04:20:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA12755 for pdftex-list; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 06:11:18 -0400 Received: from xerxes.thphy.uni-duesseldorf.de (xerxes.thphy.uni-duesseldorf.de [134.99.64.10]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA12752 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 06:11:11 -0400 Received: from attila.uni-duesseldorf.de (attila [134.99.64.144]) by xerxes.thphy.uni-duesseldorf.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA21405; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 12:10:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by attila.uni-duesseldorf.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA15819; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 12:10:19 +0200 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 12:10:19 +0200 Message-Id: <199808061010.MAA15819@attila.uni-duesseldorf.de> To: s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk CC: mcquaid@U.Arizona.EDU, pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <8706-Thu06Aug1998100220+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> (message from Sebastian Rahtz on Thu, 6 Aug 1998 10:02:20 +0100) Subject: Re: can't find cleartomark From: Ulrik Vieth Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sebastian writes: > pdfTeX does not properly grok all the various ways pfb files are > written. in my experience so far, you can dissassemble funny fonts, > edit them, and reassemble, and it works, but the details are rather > complicated (ie I have not got them written down). One additional note: In some extreme cases (such as the Mathematica symbol fonts) you can't even disassemble the fonts with the standard version of t1disasm. To get around the problem I had to recompile t1utils with a LINESIZE of 512 instead of the default 256. Could it be that pdfTeX might have any similar line length limitations? (The reason for this problem seems to lie in long "% Notices" lines which are apparently inserted by some font editors. Below is an example from Math1.pfb which happens to includesa comment line of some 360 chars that seems to throw off the font parsing routines.) Cheers, Ulrik. - - - - - - - - - currentdict end currentfile eexec dup % Notices 2 %6CBF8C %5504B252C76A15A120D17456E273F3963EDF7CE7C7630EA32ACB7DA1C37A5CDDB32FDD44A6ED841C8E27D66AEF8476A6D174F29242C5BB5EC7604EDD8F36AC49E32342EA967625BD58D27A1FB16D3AAB5FF97716B56B53D0B935CC5CC96E18AC6C5DA4EF396532D347F18F0EBD1D0FCA67E28D3FDC4AA6969F71EEDE3E65F175019963BCED861FA878F39406B04ECF6252C96211B46854D5B92D8DBF56CF6703987E0C9526AD5FE9701EF02C77C1A252DE3E48D 16BF89708B86455BBF3AE /Private 20 dict dup begin /RD{string currentfile exch readstring pop}executeonly def /ND{noaccess def}executeonly def /NP{noaccess put}executeonly def - - - - - - - - - From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Aug 6 05:34:10 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA01954 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 05:34:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA12944 for pdftex-list; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 07:29:59 -0400 Received: from math.ams.org (math.ams.org [130.44.210.14]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA12941 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 07:29:57 -0400 Received: from sun06.ams.org by math.ams.org via smtpd (for tug.org [158.121.106.10]) with SMTP; 6 Aug 1998 11:30:04 UT Received: from sun06.ams.org by sun06.ams.org (PMDF V5.1-10 #27147) with SMTP id <0EX90048GMM4ER@sun06.ams.org> for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 07:30:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 07:30:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky Subject: Re: can't find cleartomark In-reply-to: <8706-Thu06Aug1998100220+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > > pdfTeX does not properly grok all the various ways pfb files are > written. in my experience so far, you can dissassemble funny fonts, edit > them, and reassemble, and it works, but the details are rather > complicated (ie I have not got them written down). > OK, I'll start you on documentation (if you are going to do that :) by asking: (1) Are you using t1utils? If so, you might want to check out Eddie Kohler's latest version. The package has been autoconf'd and there are some bug fixes along with some handling of a few Type 2 constructs. Its available at: http://www.pdos.lcs.mit.edu/~eddietwo/type/ (2) Besides overlong lines, what else do you look for in a font that pdfTeX can't grok? (3) When you reassmble the font, do you reasssmble into PFA or PFB. If PFB, what do you set the block size to? I don't think this should matter, but hey, it never hurts to try it! Tom P.S. What set of fonts did you use for math in TLGC? My eyes would like to say standard CM, but I can't really tell, as the text isn't CM. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Aug 6 15:39:29 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA15936 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 15:39:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA14265 for pdftex-list; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 17:37:10 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA14262 for ; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 17:37:05 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (pavel@dialup2.inet.cz [194.196.193.2]) by aida.inet.cz (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA01823; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 23:33:33 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA00665; Thu, 6 Aug 1998 23:35:27 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org CC: Petr Sojka Subject: pdftex-0.12o-6 and pdftex-0.12o-6-tiff X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.115-pre4 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicitised e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicitised e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 06 Aug 1998 23:35:22 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 31 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, sorry for beeing late (I've had some problems when upgrading my system). New version includes: - version number and banner bump ;-) (me ;-) - some spelling fixes (Petr Sojka & me) - ']' bug hopefully fixed (Hans, Petr Sojka, Taco & me) - max length of character packet in VF file raised to 10000 as specified in vftovf.web (Petr Sojka) - some code cleanup - when processing an image the name is displayed and written to log file (PDF not yet :-(, patch welcomed -- should be simple) Both non-TIFF and TIFF versions are on FTP. This version is last before TUG'98, because I'm going to spend next week with my girlfriend in a wonderful town of Luhacovice (Czech Republic, you know ;-) and thus I can not go to Torun and be with you all. Sorry. If you have some comments on pdfTeX, please consult these with Petr Sojka. -- Pavel Janik ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Aug 7 01:39:21 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA27892 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 01:39:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA14882 for pdftex-list; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 03:33:33 -0400 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id DAA14879 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 03:33:31 -0400 Received: from wkaxp1.wkap.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SN-SMTP (PP) with ESMTP; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 09:33:24 +0200 Received: from pc709 (pc709.wkap.nl) by wkap.nl (PMDF V5.1-4 #29553) with SMTP id <01J0BFPVQC74005Y1Z@wkap.nl>; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 09:33:59 +0100 Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 09:33:01 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time) From: Taco Hoekwater Subject: Re: pdftex-0.12o-6 and pdftex-0.12o-6-tiff In-reply-to: To: "Pavel Janik ml." Cc: pdftex@tug.org, Petr Sojka Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.3 Build (39) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Authentication: none Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 06 Aug 1998 23:35:22 +0200 "Pavel Janik ml." wrote: > Hi, > > sorry for beeing late (I've had some problems when upgrading my > system). > > New version includes: > > - version number and banner bump ;-) (me ;-) > > - some spelling fixes (Petr Sojka & me) > > - ']' bug hopefully fixed (Hans, Petr Sojka, Taco & me) > > - max length of character packet in VF file raised to 10000 as > specified in vftovf.web (Petr Sojka) > > - some code cleanup > > - when processing an image the name is displayed and written to log > file (PDF not yet :-(, patch welcomed -- should be simple) > > Both non-TIFF and TIFF versions are on FTP. Hello again, A DJGPP compiled version of pdftex-0.12o-6-tiff is in: http://www.cybercomm.nl/~bittext/pdftex/pdftex-o6-djgpp.zip This is the version with tiff support. As far as I can see, it even works (uses static libtiff 3.4beta37). Greetings, Taco -- Taco Hoekwater texhelp@wkap.nl Kluwer Academic Publishers -- Pre Press -- Achterom 119, 3311 KB Dordrecht, The Netherlands tel. 31-78-6392550 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Aug 7 04:47:26 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA01381 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 04:47:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA15485 for pdftex-list; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 06:44:34 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id GAA15482 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 06:44:26 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (pavel@SnowWhite.inet.cz [194.196.192.9]) by aida.inet.cz (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA31905; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 12:40:55 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA01837; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 12:43:45 +0200 To: Taco Hoekwater CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex-0.12o-6 and pdftex-0.12o-6-tiff References: X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.115-pre4 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicitised e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicitised e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 07 Aug 1998 12:43:34 +0200 In-Reply-To: Taco Hoekwater's message of Fri, 07 Aug 1998 09:33:01 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time) Message-ID: Lines: 19 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: Taco Hoekwater Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 09:33:01 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time) Hi, > A DJGPP compiled version of pdftex-0.12o-6-tiff is in: > > http://www.cybercomm.nl/~bittext/pdftex/pdftex-o6-djgpp.zip > > This is the version with tiff support. As far as I can see, > it even works (uses static libtiff 3.4beta37). and now mirrored on: ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/janik/ ftp://ftp.inet.cz/pub/Mirrors/pdfTeX/Janik/ -- Pavel Janik ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Aug 7 08:00:24 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA04685 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 08:00:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA15848 for pdftex-list; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 09:51:40 -0400 Received: from eyor.wiwo.nl (root@eyor.wiwo.nl [194.183.97.14]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA15845 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 09:51:30 -0400 Received: from RnA.nl (uucp@localhost) by eyor.wiwo.nl (8.8.5/8.6.12) with UUCP id PAA31517 for tug.org!pdftex; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 15:31:42 +0200 Received: by Spike (NX5.67f2/R&A-1.9) id AA01426; Fri, 7 Aug 98 15:41:23 +0200 Message-Id: <9808071341.AA01426@Spike> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next/People/gerben_wierda@rna.nl.tiff X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Gerben Wierda Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 15:41:21 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: New font addittion to pdftex Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I hope this is the appropriate place for a question like this, if not apologies. I have installed the latest TeX including PDFTeX on my NEXTSTEP 3.3 system. Everything works fine. Now, I would like to experiment with PDFTeX. Mostly, PDFTeX works but gives a few warnings at at startup. I would like to know what they imply and what I have to do to fix these. >This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-0.12h (Web2C 7.2) >(pdftex.cfg)! Warning: pdflatex (file acrobat.map): >unknown name >pcrr8rn Courier ".85 ExtendFont TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont" <8r.enc > > >! Warning: pdflatex (file acrobat.map): >unknown name >phvbon8r Helvetica-BoldOblique ".82 ExtendFont TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont" <8r.enc > > >! Warning: pdflatex (file acrobat.map): >unknown name >phvbrn8r Helvetica-Bold ".82 ExtendFont TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont" <8r.enc > > >! Warning: pdflatex (file acrobat.map): >unknown name >phvron8r Helvetica-Oblique ".82 ExtendFont TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont" <8r.enc > > >! Warning: pdflatex (file acrobat.map): >unknown name >phvrrn8r Helvetica ".82 ExtendFont TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont" <8r.enc > > >! Warning: pdflatex (file acrobat.map): >unknown name >ptmrre8r Times-Roman "1.2 ExtendFont TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont" <8r.enc > > >! Warning: pdflatex (file acrobat.map): >unknown name >ptmrrn8r Times-Roman ".82 ExtendFont TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont" <8r.enc > >>! Warning: pdflatex (file lw35extra_urw.map): >unknown name >pplrre8r Palatino-Roman "1.2 ExtendFont TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont" <8r.enc > >! Warning: pdflatex (file lw35extra_urw.map): >unknown name >pplrrn8r Palatino-Roman ".82 ExtendFont TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont" <8r.enc >>>! Warning: pdflatex (file xypic.map): >unknown name >xycmat11 XYCMAT10 "1.1 ExtendFont" > >! Warning: pdflatex (file xypic.map): >unknown name >xycmat12 XYCMAT10 "1.2 ExtendFont" > >! Warning: pdflatex (file xypic.map): >unknown name >xycmbt11 XYCMBT10 "1.1 ExtendFont" > >! Warning: pdflatex (file xypic.map): >unknown name >xycmbt12 XYCMBT10 "1.2 ExtendFont" > >! Warning: pdflatex (file xypic.map): >unknown name >xyeuat11 XYEUAT10 "1.1 ExtendFont" > >! Warning: pdflatex (file xypic.map): >unknown name >xyeuat12 XYEUAT10 "1.2 ExtendFont" > >! Warning: pdflatex (file xypic.map): >unknown name >xyeubt11 XYEUBT10 "1.1 ExtendFont" > >! Warning: pdflatex (file xypic.map): >unknown name >xyeubt12 XYEUBT10 "1.2 ExtendFont" >> Then, I have two special symbols in a font of my own. But when I run pdflatex I get: >! Error: pdflatex: >Font wierda not found in map files So, how do I take care of the fact that my own font will end up in a PDF file? Probably, I will have to create some pfb file for it, but how do I do that? Thanks, PS. If your mail program (Microsoft especially) does not produce an In-Reply-To header, you'll end up in my spam filter, please just follow instructions and sorry for the inconvenience if this happens) -- Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl (Gerben Wierda) "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud. Dass man fuer die Philosophie ein Interesse zeigt, bezeugt noch keine Bereitschaft zum Denken -- Martin Heidegger From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Aug 7 08:32:31 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05366 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 08:32:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA16002 for pdftex-list; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:30:19 -0400 Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA15998 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:30:17 -0400 Received: from fgbbs.iaf.nl by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA07731 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for pdftex@tug.org); Fri, 7 Aug 1998 15:46:28 +0200 Received: by fgbbs.iaf.nl (0.99.950801) id AA06154; 07 Aug 98 14:42:19 +0100 From: fg@fgbbs.iaf.nl (Frans Goddijn) Date: 07 Aug 98 13:56:09 +0100 Subject: helvetica clone font taken from 4TEX set Message-Id: <359_9808071442@fgbbs.iaf.nl> References: <2c2_9807311155@fgbbs.iaf.nl> <8198-Fri31Jul1998124038+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> <2d9_9807311629@fgbbs.iaf.nl> <7663-Mon03Aug1998092648+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> Organization: FGBBS at +31 26 3217041 To: pdftex@tug.org Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk said Sebastian Rahtz to All: SR> Frans Goddijn writes: > In the PSFONT.MAP of my 4TEX instal I see these lines but they don't seem > to point to "<*.afm / pfb" files at all. This made me wonder how this > could ever work... SR> Helvetica is a `builtin' base font, so needs no PFB file You mean the PostScript printer knows how rto make Helvetica fonts and so needs not afm/pfb files to be sent to lpt1 along with the text? But if I want to view the DVI file I do need these, for .pk fonts to be made out of these don't I? So far, I am aware I mis-used clone font info from the 4TEX distribution but I still don't have a clue of how exactly I should proceed. Met hartelijke groet! Frans Goddijn -- You are what you is From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Aug 7 08:32:42 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05381 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 08:32:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA16010 for pdftex-list; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:30:37 -0400 Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA16007 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:30:35 -0400 Received: from fgbbs.iaf.nl by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA07737 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for pdftex@tug.org); Fri, 7 Aug 1998 15:46:29 +0200 Received: by fgbbs.iaf.nl (0.99.950801) id AA06155; 07 Aug 98 14:42:20 +0100 From: fg@fgbbs.iaf.nl (Frans Goddijn) Date: 07 Aug 98 14:31:10 +0100 Subject: new PDF for dos users? Message-Id: <35a_9808071442@fgbbs.iaf.nl> References: Organization: FGBBS at +31 26 3217041 To: pdftex@tug.org Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk said Taco Hoekwater to All: TH> I used the 0.12-o5, and I had some very minor problems only: [...] TH> Besides those minor problems, everything seemed to work just fine. TH> So, there is now a zip file with binaries on the following url: TH> http://www.cybercomm.nl/~bittext/pdftex/pdftex-o5-djgpp.zip Thanks! I have put it on FGBBS adding it to the PDFTEX directory: (PS: after writing the list below I noticed there is a newer version even, which I'm downloading as I write!) PDF-tex 1,586 KBytes in 5 Files PDFTEX-L.ZIP 146550 15-06-98* device independant files PDFTEX.ZIP 353244 15-06-98* pdftex for DOS PDFTEXO5.ZIP 352125 07-08-98* pdftex for DOS, version 0.12-o5 compiled under DJGPP by Taco Hoekwater TEXMF.CNF 14900 07-04-98* example TEXMF.cnf file PDFW32.ZIP 719937 31-07-98* WINDOWS 32 pdftex TH> I'm hoping someone wants to verify that this compile is indeed TH> correct (I hardly ever use pdftex, and certainly not the latest TH> version, so have no way of checking). I will use it as of today (or tomorrow) and I'll keep you informed. Thanks again! Met hartelijke groet, Frans Goddijn -- You are what you is From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Aug 7 09:41:13 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07485 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 09:41:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA16442 for pdftex-list; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 11:38:55 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA16439 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 11:38:54 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id QAA23059; hop 0; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 16:32:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from screavie.elsevier.co.uk by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 7 Aug 1998 16:39:02 +0100 Received: from lurgmhor.elsevier.co.uk (lurgmhor.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.7]) by screavie.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02889; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 16:38:53 +0100 (BST) Received: (from srahtz@localhost) by lurgmhor.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA07751; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 16:38:52 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 16:38:52 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199808071538.QAA07751@lurgmhor.elsevier.co.uk> From: Sebastian Rahtz To: fg@fgbbs.iaf.nl Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: helvetica clone font taken from 4TEX set In-Reply-To: <359_9808071442@fgbbs.iaf.nl> References: <2c2_9807311155@fgbbs.iaf.nl> <8198-Fri31Jul1998124038+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> <2d9_9807311629@fgbbs.iaf.nl> <7663-Mon03Aug1998092648+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> <359_9808071442@fgbbs.iaf.nl> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Frans Goddijn writes: > You mean the PostScript printer knows how rto make Helvetica fonts and so its built into the interpreter, yes > needs not afm/pfb files to be sent to lpt1 along with the text? But if I > want to view the DVI file I do need these, for .pk fonts to be made out of > these don't I? yes. but thats a whole separate ball game, if you use PK-based dvi viewers. > So far, I am aware I mis-used clone font info from the 4TEX distribution > but I still don't have a clue of how exactly I should proceed. use the clone to make PK fonts, but dont include it in pdftex maps sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Aug 7 12:34:19 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA14782 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 12:34:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA16707 for pdftex-list; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 14:31:54 -0400 Received: from halifax.chebucto.ns.ca (halifax.chebucto.ns.ca [129.173.4.205]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA16704 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 14:31:53 -0400 Received: from chebucto.ns.ca ([129.173.4.200]:1028 "EHLO chebucto.ns.ca" ident: "root") by halifax.chebucto.ns.ca with ESMTP id <33220-394>; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 15:31:39 -0300 Received: from aa056@localhost by chebucto.ns.ca id <90694-158>; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 15:31:37 -0300 Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 15:31:26 -0300 (ADT) From: George White To: Taco Hoekwater cc: "Pavel Janik ml." , pdftex@tug.org, Petr Sojka Subject: Re: pdftex-0.12o-6 and pdftex-0.12o-6-tiff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1920162272-501065662-902514686=:6606" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1920162272-501065662-902514686=:6606 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have been using the DJGPP-compiled pdftex.exe under OS/2 Warp, but it gives me an error (which does not get saved in the log! -- something about unexpected end of data while reading the pdf file) when reading a pdf file. The same .pdf file works with pdftex 0.12n + teTeX-0.9 on a NeXT system, so I suspect some text/binary or newline issue. I installed the below mentioned pdftex-0.12o-6-tiff DJGPP binary today. Simple documents work, but the problem with pdf files remains. In the hope that it will save other OS/2 users a bit of work, I've attached a REXX script that runs pdftex.exe in a suitable DOS session. -- George White Halifax, Nova Scotia On Fri, 7 Aug 1998, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > [...] > > A DJGPP compiled version of pdftex-0.12o-6-tiff is in: > > http://www.cybercomm.nl/~bittext/pdftex/pdftex-o6-djgpp.zip > > This is the version with tiff support. As far as I can see, > it even works (uses static libtiff 3.4beta37). > > Greetings, Taco > > -- > Taco Hoekwater texhelp@wkap.nl > Kluwer Academic Publishers -- Pre Press -- > Achterom 119, 3311 KB Dordrecht, The Netherlands tel. 31-78-6392550 --1920162272-501065662-902514686=:6606 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name="pdflatex.cmd" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: OS/2 REXX script to run DJGPP pdftex.exe in DOS session LyogU3RhcnQgYSBET1Mgc2Vzc2lvbiBmb3IgcGRmdGV4ICAgKi8NCg0KQ0FM TCBSeEZ1bmNBZGQgU3lzTG9hZEZ1bmNzLCBSZXh4VXRpbCxTeXNMb2FkRnVu Y3M7DQpDQUxMIFN5c0xvYWRGdW5jczsNCg0KQ2xhc3NOYW1lPSdXUFByb2dy YW0nOyAgICAgICAgLyogT2JqZWN0IHR5cGUgICAgICAgICAgICAgKi8NClRp dGxlPSdwZGZ0ZXggMC4xMm8nOyAgICAgICAgICAgICAgLyogV2luZG93IHRp dGxlICAgICAgICAgICAgKi8NClByb2dyYW09J0VYRU5BTUU9aTpccGRmdGV4 LTAuMTJvXGJpblxwZGZ0ZXguZXhlOyc7ICAgICAgICAgLyogUHJvZ3JhbSB0 byBydW4gICAgICAgICAgKi8NCkxvY2F0aW9uPSc8V1BfTk9XSEVSRT4nOyAg ICAgIC8qIE9iamVjdCBsb2NhdGlvbiAgICAgICAgICovDQpUeXBlPSdQUk9H VFlQRT1XSU5ET1dFRFZETTsnOyAgICAgICAgIC8qIERPUyB3aW5kb3cgc2Vz c2lvbiAqLw0KU3RhcnRVcD0nU1RBUlRVUERJUj0nZGlyZWN0b3J5KCknOycg ICAgIC8qIFdvcmtpbmcgZGlyZWN0b3J5ICAgICAgICovDQpPYmplY3RpZD0n T0JKRUNUSUQ9PFBERlRFWD47JyAvKiBPYmplY3QgSUQgICAgICAgICAgICAg ICAqLw0KDQovKiBTZXNzaW9uIFNldHRpbmdzICovDQoNCi8qIFRoZSBWaWRl b19Nb2RlX1Jlc3RyaWN0aW9uIHZhbHVlICpNVVNUIEJFKiBmaWZ0ZWVuIGNo YXJhY3RlcnMgbG9uZyAqLw0KDQpTZXR0aW5ncz0nU0VUIFZJREVPX01PREVf UkVTVFJJQ1RJT049Q0dBICAgICAgICAgICAgOycNClNldHRpbmdzPVNldHRp bmdzfHwnU0VUIERPU19VTUI9MDsnDQpTZXR0aW5ncz1TZXR0aW5nc3x8J1NF VCBET1NfSElHSD0wOycNClNldHRpbmdzPVNldHRpbmdzfHwnU0VUIEVNU19N RU1PUllfTElNSVQ9MDsnDQpTZXR0aW5ncz1TZXR0aW5nc3x8J1NFVCBYTVNf TUVNT1JZX0xJTUlUPTA7Jw0KLyogMTAyNCoxNj0xNjM4NCwgMTAyNCozMj0z Mjc2OCAqLw0KU2V0dGluZ3M9U2V0dGluZ3N8fCdTRVQgRFBNSV9NRU1PUllf TElNSVQ9MzI3Njg7Jw0KU2V0dGluZ3M9U2V0dGluZ3N8fCdOT0FVVE9DTE9T RT1ZRVM7Jw0KU2V0dGluZ3M9U2V0dGluZ3N8fCdQQVJBTUVURVJTPSZwZGZs YXRleCAnIGFyZygxKSBhcmcoMikgYXJnKDMpICc7Jw0KDQpPcGVuPSdPUEVO PURFRkFVTFQ7JyAgICAgICAvKiBPcGVuIGRlZmF1bHQgdmlldyAgICAgICAq Lw0KDQpjYWxsIFN5c0NyZWF0ZU9iamVjdCBjbGFzc25hbWUsIHRpdGxlLCBs b2NhdGlvbiwsDQogICAgcHJvZ3JhbXx8dHlwZXx8c3RhcnR1cHx8b2JqZWN0 aWR8fHNldHRpbmdzfHxvcGVuLCAnUkVQTEFDRScNCmNhbGwgU3lzU2V0T2Jq ZWN0RGF0YSAnPFBERkxBVEVYPicsIG9wZW4NClJldHVybg0K --1920162272-501065662-902514686=:6606-- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Aug 7 16:49:53 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA20900 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 16:49:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA17287 for pdftex-list; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 18:42:23 -0400 Received: from lebesgue.math.univ-nantes.fr (lebesgue.math.sciences.univ-nantes.fr [193.52.98.8]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA17284 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 18:42:20 -0400 Received: from (guillope@localhost) by lebesgue.math.univ-nantes.fr (8.8.8/jtpda-5.3) id AAA12681 for pdftex@tug.org; Sat, 8 Aug 1998 00:42:30 +0200 (MET DST) From: Laurent.Guillope@math.univ-nantes.fr (Laurent Guillope) Message-Id: <199808072242.AAA12681@lebesgue.math.univ-nantes.fr> Subject: hyperref, pdftex & radio button To: pdftex@tug.org Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 00:42:30 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Organization: Département de Mathématiques, Université de Nantes Address: 2 rue de la Houssiničre, BP 92208, Nantes Cedex 03 Fax: 02 51 12 59 12 Tel: 02 40 37 98 93 Reply-To: Laurent.Guillope@math.univ-nantes.fr X-no-archive: yes X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk With the following code, \documentclass[pdftex]{article} \usepackage{hyperref} \def\URI{http://localhost/cgi-bin/} \begin{document} \begin{Form}[action={\URI a.pl},encoding=html,method=post] \ChoiceMenu[radio=true,name=test ,value=or,checked=true]{Test : }{et=and,ou=or,sans=without,avec=with} \Submit{Afficher} \end{Form} \end{document} the cgi-bin (http://localhost/cgi-bin/a.pl) would expect test=or In fact it received the value ``test2'' (2 as the second element in the list of the possible choices. In the definition of \@@Radio (hpdftex.fdef), if the line /\Fld@name\the\Fld@listcount\space \DingObject is replaced by /\@currValue\space \DingObject the expected behaviour occurs. I don't see advantages or reason for the numbered variable name as values sent to the cgi-bin application : what is the reason ? (in my real application, i can't change the cgi-bin, so i must keep with the values ``and'', ``or'',....). lg ps1 : other slight dfficulties * the above radio definition doesn't print the star in the ``or'' box : however, when any box is clicked, the star is displaid as expected * when the ``\ChoiceMenu[radio=true,....'' is inserted in the array environment, the boxes don't appear... ps2 : [pdftex]{hyperref} creating forms is very great ! From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Aug 7 17:30:28 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA21614 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 17:30:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA17468 for pdftex-list; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 19:24:11 -0400 Received: from lorraine.loria.fr (lorraine.loria.fr [152.81.1.17]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA17465 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 19:24:08 -0400 Received: from renaissance.loria.fr (renaissance.loria.fr [152.81.4.102]) by lorraine.loria.fr (8.8.7/8.8.7/8.8.7/JCG) with ESMTP id BAA23476; Sat, 8 Aug 1998 01:22:47 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Denis B. Roegel" Received: (from roegel@localhost) by renaissance.loria.fr (8.8.2/8.8.2) id BAA19012; Sat, 8 Aug 1998 01:22:46 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199808072322.BAA19012@renaissance.loria.fr> Subject: Re: hyperref, pdftex & radio button To: Laurent.Guillope@math.univ-nantes.fr Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 01:22:46 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <199808072242.AAA12681@lebesgue.math.univ-nantes.fr> from "Laurent Guillope" at Aug 8, 98 00:42:30 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk `Laurent Guillope' wrote > > With the following code, > \documentclass[pdftex]{article} > \usepackage{hyperref} > > \def\URI{http://localhost/cgi-bin/} > > \begin{document} > > \begin{Form}[action={\URI a.pl},encoding=html,method=post] > \ChoiceMenu[radio=true,name=test ,value=or,checked=true]{Test : }{et=and,ou=or,sans=without,avec=with} > \Submit{Afficher} > \end{Form} > \end{document} > If I compile this simple file, I get errors. Is it normal? What am I doing wrong. I think I have the most recent version of everything, except pdfTeX... This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-0.12n (Web2C 7.2) (pdftex.cfg) (form.tex LaTeX2e <1998/06/01> Babel and hyphenation patterns for english, french, german, russian, du mylang, nohyphenation, loaded. (/usr/local/tex/texmf/tex/latex/base/article.cls Document Class: article 1998/05/05 v1.3y Standard LaTeX document class (/usr/local/tex/texmf/tex/latex/base/size10.clo)) (/usr/local/tex/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/hyperref.sty (/usr/local/tex/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/keyval.sty) (/usr/local/tex/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/nameref.sty) (/usr/local/tex/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/hpdftex.def (/usr/local/tex/texmf/tex/latex/psnfss/pifont.sty (/usr/local/tex/texmf/tex/latex/psnfss/Upzd.fd) (/usr/local/tex/texmf/tex/latex/psnfss/Upsy.fd))) (/usr/local/tex/texmf/tex/latex/html/url.sty)) LaTeX Warning: Unused global option(s): [pdftex]. (form.aux) (form.out) (form.out) Underfull \hbox (badness 10000) detected at line 8 [] Underfull \hbox (badness 10000) detected at line 8 [] Underfull \hbox (badness 10000) detected at line 8 [] ! Undefined control sequence. \Fld@checkequals l.10 ... {et=and,ou=or,sans=without,avec=with} ? Thanks, Denis Roegel From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sat Aug 8 12:31:39 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA10166 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 1998 12:31:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA18954 for pdftex-list; Sat, 8 Aug 1998 14:28:40 -0400 Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA18951 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 1998 14:28:38 -0400 Received: from fgbbs.iaf.nl by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA08720 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for pdftex@tug.org); Sat, 8 Aug 1998 19:34:11 +0200 Received: by fgbbs.iaf.nl (0.99.950801) id AA06193; 08 Aug 98 18:30:36 +0100 From: fg@fgbbs.iaf.nl (Frans Goddijn) Date: 08 Aug 98 18:14:00 +0100 Subject: helvetica clone font taken from 4TEX set Message-Id: <382_9808081830@fgbbs.iaf.nl> References: <2c2_9807311155@fgbbs.iaf.nl> <8198-Fri31Jul1998124038+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> <2d9_9807311629@fgbbs.iaf.nl> <7663-Mon03Aug1998092648+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> <359_9808071442@fgbbs.iaf.nl> <199808071538.QAA07751@lurgmhor.elsevier.co.uk> Organization: FGBBS at +31 26 3217041 To: pdftex@tug.org Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk said Sebastian Rahtz to All: SR> use the clone to make PK fonts, so the reference to the clone must be in PSFONTS.INF SR> but dont include it in pdftex maps In the original PDFTEX.MAP that I have, helvetica lines are these: [...] phvr8r Helvetica ; Sat, 8 Aug 1998 14:39:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA19245 for pdftex-list; Sat, 8 Aug 1998 16:37:25 -0400 Received: from lebesgue.math.univ-nantes.fr (lebesgue.math.sciences.univ-nantes.fr [193.52.98.8]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA19242 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 1998 16:37:24 -0400 Received: from (guillope@localhost) by lebesgue.math.univ-nantes.fr (8.8.8/jtpda-5.3) id WAA16202 ; Sat, 8 Aug 1998 22:37:28 +0200 (MET DST) From: Laurent.Guillope@math.univ-nantes.fr (Laurent Guillope) Message-Id: <199808082037.WAA16202@lebesgue.math.univ-nantes.fr> Subject: Re: hyperref, pdftex & radio button To: Denis.Roegel@loria.fr (Denis B. Roegel) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 22:37:28 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <199808072322.BAA19012@renaissance.loria.fr> from "Denis B. Roegel" at Aug 8, 98 01:22:46 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Organization: Département de Mathématiques, Université de Nantes Address: 2 rue de la Houssiničre, BP 92208, Nantes Cedex 03 Fax: 02 51 12 59 12 Tel: 02 40 37 98 93 Reply-To: Laurent.Guillope@math.univ-nantes.fr X-no-archive: yes X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk | If I compile this simple file, I get errors. Is it normal? | What am I doing wrong. I think I have the most recent version of everything, | except pdfTeX... I can only say i used hyperref 6.32 (1998/07/06) and pdftex 0.12h (checked with pdftex 0.12n too) lg From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sat Aug 8 15:30:26 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA13089 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 1998 15:30:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA19431 for pdftex-list; Sat, 8 Aug 1998 17:28:26 -0400 Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA19428 for ; Sat, 8 Aug 1998 17:28:24 -0400 Received: from fgbbs.iaf.nl by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA14957 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for pdftex@tug.org); Sat, 8 Aug 1998 22:38:22 +0200 Received: by fgbbs.iaf.nl (0.99.950801) id AA06197; 08 Aug 98 21:35:00 +0100 From: fg@fgbbs.iaf.nl (Frans Goddijn) Date: 08 Aug 98 18:29:00 +0100 Subject: pdftex-0.12o-6 and pdftex-0.12o-6-tiff Message-Id: <386_9808082135@fgbbs.iaf.nl> References: Organization: FGBBS at +31 26 3217041 To: pdftex@tug.org Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk said George White to All: GW> I have been using the DJGPP-compiled pdftex.exe under OS/2 Warp, GW> but it gives me an error (which does not get saved in the log! -- GW> something about unexpected end of data while reading the pdf file) GW> when reading a pdf file. I had a *maybe* similar error here (which did get into the log file though) This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-0.12o-6-tiff3 (Web2C 7.2) (format=cont-nl 1998.8.8) 8 AUG 1998 18:30 [...] Dit is CONTEXT versie <1998.8.8 > interface meldingen [...] [PDF to PDF lsylogo.pdf Runaway text? x\global \row =0\relax \global \let \relax \global \read \scratchread \ETC. ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [main memory size=2000001]. [...] GW> Content-Description: OS/2 REXX script to run DJGPP pdftex.exe in GW> DOS session Thanks for that file which I also placed on FGBBS: PDF-tex PDFLATEX.CMD 1341 08-08-98* OS/2 REXX script by George White runs PDFTEX in DOS box PDFTEX-L.ZIP 146550 15-06-98* device independant files PDFTEX.ZIP 353244 15-06-98* pdftex for DOS PDFTEXO5.ZIP 352125 07-08-98* pdftex for DOS, version 0.12-o5 compiled under DJGPP by Taco Hoekwater PDFTEXO6.ZIP 406900 07-08-98* pdftex for DOS, version 0.12-o6 compiled under DJGPP by Taco Hoekwater TEXMF.CNF 14900 07-04-98* example TEXMF.cnf file PDFW32.ZIP 719937 31-07-98* WINDOWS 32 pdftex ********************************************************************* The idea to run PDFTEX from an OS/2 box instead of a DOS box as I did until now appeals to me, since my PERL setup works only in my OS/2 boxes. I'll give that a try soon! Met hartelijke groet, Frans Goddijn -- You are what you is From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sun Aug 9 09:50:22 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01869 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 09:50:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA20685 for pdftex-list; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 11:47:22 -0400 Received: from lorraine.loria.fr (lorraine.loria.fr [152.81.1.17]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA20682 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 11:47:20 -0400 Received: from renaissance.loria.fr (renaissance.loria.fr [152.81.4.102]) by lorraine.loria.fr (8.8.7/8.8.7/8.8.7/JCG) with ESMTP id RAA20046; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 17:46:23 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Denis B. Roegel" Received: (from roegel@localhost) by renaissance.loria.fr (8.8.2/8.8.2) id RAA25830; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 17:46:20 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199808091546.RAA25830@renaissance.loria.fr> Subject: Re: hyperref, pdftex & radio button (fwd) To: pdftex@tug.org Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 17:46:20 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: roegel@lorraine.loria.fr (Denis B. Roegel) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > `Prof Brian D Ripley' wrote > > > > > > If I compile this simple file, I get errors. Is it normal? > > ^^^^^^^ > > > > I don't think this is common usage: I have only ever seen it from one > > contributor to this group. > > > > > What am I doing wrong. I think I have the most recent version of everything, > > > except pdfTeX... > > > > Clearly you do not have the latest hyperref. Actually, the original > > message told you \Fld@... are in hpdftex.def, so this should be clear. My > > log shows > > > > (/tex/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/hyperref.sty > > Package: hyperref 1998/07/06 6.32 Hypertext links for LaTeX > > > > and I think that is the first release version with full forms support. > > I don't know if this is the latest: I do not update every time. > > I have > > \ProvidesPackage{hyperref} > [1998/07/19 6.33 Hypertext links for LaTeX] > > and I have definitions for \Fld@... in hpdftex.def. > > Denis Roegel > From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sun Aug 9 13:30:37 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA05482 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 13:30:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA21095 for pdftex-list; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 15:23:57 -0400 Received: from lorraine.loria.fr (lorraine.loria.fr [152.81.1.17]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA21092 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 15:23:55 -0400 Received: from renaissance.loria.fr (renaissance.loria.fr [152.81.4.102]) by lorraine.loria.fr (8.8.7/8.8.7/8.8.7/JCG) with ESMTP id VAA21744; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 21:23:02 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Denis B. Roegel" Received: (from roegel@localhost) by renaissance.loria.fr (8.8.2/8.8.2) id VAA26117; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 21:23:01 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 21:23:01 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199808091923.VAA26117@renaissance.loria.fr> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: what is the pdfview option of hyperref? Cc: roegel@lorraine.loria.fr Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I have recently seem a file loading hyperref like this: \usepackage[pdfview=XYZ]{hyperref} and I was wondering what is the effect of that option? I have gone through hyperref.dtx, but didn't find a clear answer to my question. Or is there another documentation? Thanks, Denis Roegel From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sun Aug 9 14:00:34 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05921 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 14:00:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA21215 for pdftex-list; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 15:58:57 -0400 Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA21212 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 15:58:56 -0400 Received: from localhost (max117.public.ox.ac.uk [192.76.27.117]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id UAA06727; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 20:56:34 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 20:58:20 +0100 (BST) From: Prof Brian D Ripley To: "Denis B. Roegel" cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: hyperref, pdftex & radio button (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199808091546.RAA25830@renaissance.loria.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 9 Aug 1998, Denis B. Roegel wrote: [ copy of private message deleted ] Why are you posting copies of a private message to a newsgroup? That violates my copyright and if I wanted it posted I would have. -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sun Aug 9 15:12:01 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07057 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 15:12:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA21475 for pdftex-list; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 17:10:02 -0400 Received: from lorraine.loria.fr (lorraine.loria.fr [152.81.1.17]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA21472 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 17:10:00 -0400 Received: from renaissance.loria.fr (renaissance.loria.fr [152.81.4.102]) by lorraine.loria.fr (8.8.7/8.8.7/8.8.7/JCG) with ESMTP id XAA24351; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 23:08:54 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Denis B. Roegel" Received: (from roegel@localhost) by renaissance.loria.fr (8.8.2/8.8.2) id XAA26634; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 23:08:52 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199808092108.XAA26634@renaissance.loria.fr> Subject: Re: hyperref, pdftex & radio button (fwd) To: ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk (Prof Brian D Ripley) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 23:08:52 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: Denis.Roegel@loria.fr, pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: from "Prof Brian D Ripley" at Aug 9, 98 08:58:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk `Prof Brian D Ripley' wrote > > On Sun, 9 Aug 1998, Denis B. Roegel wrote: > > [ copy of private message deleted ] > > Why are you posting copies of a private message to a newsgroup? > That violates my copyright and if I wanted it posted I would have. I apologize, this was an oversight of my side. What happened is that I didn't notice that your message was sent only to me, and my own subject ("..., pdftex ...") confused me and let me think that the list was in your destinations. So, I did a "group reply" with elm, and of course it didn't sent it to the list, but I thought I had not hit the `g' key and therefore I resent it explicitely to the list. I am terribly sorry for this, but it was just a mistake for doing things too mechanically. Denis Roegel From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 10 02:40:15 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA19464 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 02:40:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA22843 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 04:37:07 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA22840 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 04:37:05 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id JAA19596; hop 0; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 09:31:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 10 Aug 1998 09:37:16 +0100 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 14:36:02 +0100 Message-ID: <7050-Sun09Aug1998143602+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 8-beta-20 Q); VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: fg@fgbbs.iaf.nl Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: helvetica clone font taken from 4TEX set In-Reply-To: <382_9808081830@fgbbs.iaf.nl> References: <2c2_9807311155@fgbbs.iaf.nl> <8198-Fri31Jul1998124038+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> <2d9_9807311629@fgbbs.iaf.nl> <7663-Mon03Aug1998092648+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> <359_9808071442@fgbbs.iaf.nl> <199808071538.QAA07751@lurgmhor.elsevier.co.uk> <382_9808081830@fgbbs.iaf.nl> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Frans Goddijn writes: > SR> use the clone to make PK fonts, > > so the reference to the clone must be in PSFONTS.INF I dont know what "psfonts.inf" is, so cannot advise > phvr8r Helvetica Now these explicitly point to .pfb files which I don't have (at least not > by those long names). Do you suggest I change these lines, if so to what? remove " You are what you is no I aint From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 10 02:40:27 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA19470 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 02:40:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA22848 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 04:37:35 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA22845 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 04:37:33 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id JAA19628; hop 0; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 09:31:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 10 Aug 1998 09:37:47 +0100 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 14:41:06 +0100 Message-ID: <1357-Sun09Aug1998144106+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 8-beta-20 Q); VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: fg@fgbbs.iaf.nl Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex-0.12o-6 and pdftex-0.12o-6-tiff In-Reply-To: <386_9808082135@fgbbs.iaf.nl> References: <386_9808082135@fgbbs.iaf.nl> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Frans Goddijn writes: > Dit is CONTEXT versie <1998.8.8 > interface meldingen > [...] > [PDF to PDF lsylogo.pdf > Runaway text? > x\global \row =0\relax \global \let \relax \global \read \scratchread > \ETC. Using the PDF to PDF reader is no longer needed, as pdftex groks pdftex files on its own. Since you are using Context, Hans or Taco will have to advise on how to avoid this. LaTeX users should simply upgrade to http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def Sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 10 02:47:24 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA19561 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 02:47:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA22938 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 04:43:54 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA22932 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 04:43:52 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id JAA19926; hop 0; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 09:37:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 10 Aug 1998 09:44:04 +0100 Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 15:06:28 +0100 Message-ID: <324-Sun09Aug1998150628+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 8-beta-20 Q); VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Laurent.Guillope@math.univ-nantes.fr Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: hyperref, pdftex & radio button In-Reply-To: <199808072242.AAA12681@lebesgue.math.univ-nantes.fr> References: <199808072242.AAA12681@lebesgue.math.univ-nantes.fr> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Laurent Guillope writes: > In fact it received the value ``test2'' (2 as the second element in the > list of the possible choices. > > In the definition of \@@Radio (hpdftex.fdef), if the line > /\Fld@name\the\Fld@listcount\space \DingObject > is replaced by > /\@currValue\space \DingObject > the expected behaviour occurs. hmm. I suspect that the set of radio buttons might then stop being radio buttons. I am uneasily aware of a problem here which I didnt solve properly. But I agree that you should get what you expected, so I will hack at it > ps1 : other slight dfficulties > * the above radio definition doesn't print the star in the ``or'' box : > however, when any box is clicked, the star is displaid as > expected i'll experiment. > * when the ``\ChoiceMenu[radio=true,....'' is inserted in the array > environment, the boxes don't appear... really???? horrors. > ps2 : [pdftex]{hyperref} creating forms is very great ! I am glad to hear it! you now count as the 2nd user (after Thierry Bouche)... sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 10 02:47:37 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA19566 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 02:47:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA22939 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 04:43:54 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA22933 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 04:43:52 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id JAA19929; hop 0; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 09:37:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 10 Aug 1998 09:44:10 +0100 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 09:28:30 +0100 Message-ID: <6226-Mon10Aug1998092830+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 8-beta-20 Q); VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Denis.Roegel@loria.fr Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: what is the pdfview option of hyperref? In-Reply-To: <199808091923.VAA26117@renaissance.loria.fr> References: <199808091923.VAA26117@renaissance.loria.fr> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Denis B. Roegel writes: > > I have recently seem a file loading hyperref like this: > > \usepackage[pdfview=XYZ]{hyperref} > > and I was wondering what is the effect of that option? > \Key{pdfview}{text} {FitBH} {Sets the default PDF `view' for each link} > I have gone through hyperref.dtx, but didn't find a clear > answer to my question. Or is there another documentation? you dont have a copy of the file "manual.pdf"? sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 10 07:49:11 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24670 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 07:49:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA23885 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 09:38:13 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA23882 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 09:38:11 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id OAA01227; hop 0; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 14:32:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 10 Aug 1998 14:38:14 +0100 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 14:38:14 +0100 Message-ID: <7163-Mon10Aug1998143814+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 8-beta-20 I) From: Sebastian Rahtz To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: list owner on vacation Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I am off for 3 weeks from August 12th, so this list is unattended. I don't anticipate any problems, but _in extremis_, Karl Berry (karl@cs.umb.edu) is the ultimate master of the www.tug.org box. Sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 10 08:17:40 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA25267 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 08:17:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA24095 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 10:13:52 -0400 Received: from lorraine.loria.fr (lorraine.loria.fr [152.81.1.17]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA24092 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 10:13:50 -0400 Received: from renaissance.loria.fr (renaissance.loria.fr [152.81.4.102]) by lorraine.loria.fr (8.8.7/8.8.7/8.8.7/JCG) with ESMTP id QAA14874; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 16:12:50 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Denis B. Roegel" Received: (from roegel@localhost) by renaissance.loria.fr (8.8.2/8.8.2) id QAA00993; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 16:12:48 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199808101412.QAA00993@renaissance.loria.fr> Subject: Re: what is the pdfview option of hyperref? To: s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk (Sebastian Rahtz) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 16:12:48 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: Denis.Roegel@loria.fr, pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <6226-Mon10Aug1998092830+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> from "Sebastian Rahtz" at Aug 10, 98 09:28:30 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk `Sebastian Rahtz' wrote > > Denis B. Roegel writes: > > > > I have recently seem a file loading hyperref like this: > > > > \usepackage[pdfview=XYZ]{hyperref} > > > > and I was wondering what is the effect of that option? > > > \Key{pdfview}{text} > {FitBH} > {Sets the default PDF `view' for each link} > > > I have gone through hyperref.dtx, but didn't find a clear > > answer to my question. Or is there another documentation? > you dont have a copy of the file "manual.pdf"? > Actually, I have it, but somehow forgot to look into it. But even after reading this file, I still do not know what is pdfview, when it is supposed to be used, etc. Is this really an option for the user? Denis From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 10 08:32:12 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA25622 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 08:32:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA24228 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 10:26:24 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA24225 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 10:26:22 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id PAA03787; hop 0; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 15:20:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 10 Aug 1998 15:26:39 +0100 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 15:26:41 +0100 Message-ID: <9558-Mon10Aug1998152641+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 8-beta-20 I); VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Denis.Roegel@loria.fr Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: what is the pdfview option of hyperref? In-Reply-To: <199808101412.QAA00993@renaissance.loria.fr> References: <6226-Mon10Aug1998092830+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> <199808101412.QAA00993@renaissance.loria.fr> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Denis B. Roegel writes: > But even after reading this file, > I still do not know what is pdfview, when it is supposed to be used, etc. > Is this really an option for the user? > very much so! when you click on a link and jump to a new page, how does it behave? keep the current zoom factor, fit width, fit page? you need to be able to control this! Sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 10 09:38:46 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27373 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 09:38:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA24587 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 11:25:26 -0400 Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA24584 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 11:25:25 -0400 Received: from toucan.stats (toucan.stats [163.1.20.20]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id QAA08482; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 16:23:00 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199808101523.QAA08482@toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 16:23:00 +0100 (BST) From: Prof Brian Ripley Reply-To: Prof Brian Ripley Subject: Re: what is the pdfview option of hyperref? To: Denis.Roegel@loria.fr Cc: pdftex@tug.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: 29vjUnD72LNsLLJ1rpjqDQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.0 CDE Version 1.2 SunOS 5.6 sun4m sparc Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > From: Sebastian Rahtz > > Denis B. Roegel writes: > > But even after reading this file, > > I still do not know what is pdfview, when it is supposed to be used, etc. > > Is this really an option for the user? > > > very much so! when you click on a link and jump to a new page, > how does it behave? keep the current zoom factor, fit width, fit page? > you need to be able to control this! The only PDF documents I have seen that did not normally use XYZ (which means leave the current state alone and is the default under Distiller) bear the imprint of SPQR. You certainly need to be able to alter the hyperref defaults! I found that if you want to master these options you need to read the pdfmark documentation. This come with Acrobat Exchange in a file called pdfmark.pdf (technical note #5150), and is on Adobe's web site at http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/devrelations/technotes.html they say. -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 10 10:19:50 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA28327 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 10:19:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA24820 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 12:07:09 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA24817 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 12:07:07 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id RAA07796; hop 0; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 17:01:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 10 Aug 1998 17:07:24 +0100 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 17:06:58 +0100 Message-ID: <4846-Mon10Aug1998170658+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 8-beta-20 Q); VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Cc: Denis.Roegel@loria.fr, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: what is the pdfview option of hyperref? In-Reply-To: <199808101523.QAA08482@toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk> References: <199808101523.QAA08482@toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Prof Brian Ripley writes: > I found that if you want to master these options you need to read the > pdfmark documentation. This come with Acrobat Exchange in a file called > pdfmark.pdf (technical note #5150), and is on Adobe's web site at > > http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/devrelations/technotes.html um. watch out. pdfmark is not necessarily the same as pure pdf, which is what is happening in pdftex. better see the whole PDF specification Sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 10 15:56:29 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06546 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 15:56:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA25416 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 17:51:16 -0400 Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA25413 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 17:51:14 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.20.151]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA2D39; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 23:50:57 +0200 Message-ID: <35CE2C33.9DF4CA32@wxs.nl> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 01:09:39 +0200 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frans Goddijn CC: pdftex Subject: Re: pdftex-0.12o-6 and pdftex-0.12o-6-tiff References: <386_9808082135@fgbbs.iaf.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Frans Goddijn wrote: > > said George White to All: > > GW> I have been using the DJGPP-compiled pdftex.exe under OS/2 Warp, > GW> but it gives me an error (which does not get saved in the log! -- > GW> something about unexpected end of data while reading the pdf file) > GW> when reading a pdf file. > > I had a *maybe* similar error here (which did get into the log file > though) > > This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-0.12o-6-tiff3 (Web2C 7.2) (format=cont-nl > 1998.8.8) 8 AUG 1998 18:30 > [...] > Dit is CONTEXT versie <1998.8.8 > interface meldingen > [...] > [PDF to PDF lsylogo.pdf > Runaway text? > x\global \row =0\relax \global \let \relax \global \read \scratchread > \ETC. > ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [main memory size=2000001]. The PDF to PDF conversion, which is sort of obsolete since pdftex supports direct inclusion, probably does not work on your logo, which has fonts etc. The PDF to PDF method only works for one object pdf's. The most recent version of context supports direct inclusion etc. I'll post this version at eriks server in a few days. (I consider it stable enough and I hate to post quick and dirty hacks.) BTW, this is a funny message: you end up somewhere in a table row. The change on a main memory overflow is rather low. Even 1000000 is large enough for most jobs (I just two-upped a 40 page A5 document in TeX and only needed 500K). Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 10 18:10:07 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA09445 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 18:10:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA25677 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 19:57:20 -0400 Received: from gwfs.stud.fh-jena.de (gwfs.stud.fh-jena.de [194.94.37.56]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA25674 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 19:57:18 -0400 Received: from gw4s (gw4s.stud.fh-jena.de [194.94.37.30]) by gwfs.stud.fh-jena.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id BAA00015 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 1998 01:58:34 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 01:52:57 +0200 (MDT) From: Colin Marquardt <941etcm@gwfs.stud.fh-jena.de> X-Sender: 941etcm@gw4s To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: epstopdf and BoundingBox Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I just discovered a small problem with Sebastian Rahtz' epstopdf. I have an eps file (created by wmf2eps 1.0) which has tabs (or multiple spaces, I don't know) between the BoundingBox values. epstopdf in its current form ($filedate="1998/6/23"; $fileversion="2.1";) doesn't re-calculate the BB since it seems to expect exactly one space between these values. It seems to be the line (bad linebreaks, I'm sure) elsif (/%%(HiResB|ExactB|B)oundingBox:(\s$bbpatt+)\s($bbpatt+)\s($bbpatt+)\s($bbpatt+)/ ) with $bbpatt defined as local $bbpatt="[0-9\.\-]"; Since I know virtually nothing about Perl, can someone help me please? It is valid PostScript, isn't it? TIA, Colin -- Colin Marquardt colin.marquardt@gmx.de Ortsstrasse 28 D-07426 Untersch"obling From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 10 19:11:46 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA10890 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 19:11:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA25889 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 21:08:45 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA25886 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 21:08:43 -0400 Received: from remote142-53.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.53] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0z62w1-0004k4-00; Tue, 11 Aug 1998 03:09:09 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19980811030818.364fdb88@pop3.uni-freiburg.de> X-Sender: oberdiek@pop3.uni-freiburg.de X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 03:08:18 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: epstopdf and BoundingBox In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 01:52 11.08.1998 +0200, Colin Marquardt wrote: > >I just discovered a small problem with Sebastian Rahtz' epstopdf. I >have an eps file (created by wmf2eps 1.0) which has tabs (or multiple >spaces, I don't know) between the BoundingBox values. >[...] > elsif >(/%%(HiResB|ExactB|B)oundingBox:(\s$bbpatt+)\s($bbpatt+)\s($bbpatt+)\s($bbp att+)/ ) (/%%(HiRes|Exact|)BoundingBox:\s+($bbpatt+)\s+($bbpatt+)\s+($bbpatt+)\s+($bb patt+)/ ) Spaces and tabs are allowed white space in comments. Yours sincerely Heiko From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 10 19:37:22 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA11539 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 19:37:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA26032 for pdftex-list; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 21:32:21 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA26028 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 21:32:20 -0400 Received: from remote142-53.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.53] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0z63Iq-0004rZ-00; Tue, 11 Aug 1998 03:32:45 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19980811033222.0cf71454@pop3.uni-freiburg.de> X-Sender: oberdiek@pop3.uni-freiburg.de X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 03:32:22 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: epstopdf and BoundingBox Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Heiko Oberdiek wrote: >(/%%(HiRes|Exact|)BoundingBox:\s+($bbpatt+)\s+($bbpatt+)\s+($bbpatt+)\s+($b bpatt+)/ ) * Sorry, the first space after the colon should be considered optional: ...Box:\s*($bbpatt+)\s+($bbpatt+)... * The arguments of the BoundingBox are unsigned integers, but the arguments of (Hires|Exact)BoundingBox should be treated as real numbers: $bbpatt = "[0-9eE\.\-]"; Yours sincerely Heiko From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Aug 11 09:04:40 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA18105 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 1998 09:04:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA27575 for pdftex-list; Tue, 11 Aug 1998 11:02:09 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA27572 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 1998 11:02:07 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id PAA05667; hop 0; Tue, 11 Aug 1998 15:56:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 11 Aug 1998 16:02:15 +0100 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 16:00:38 +0100 Message-ID: <1609-Tue11Aug1998160038+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 8-beta-20 Q); VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Laurent.Guillope@math.univ-nantes.fr Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: hyperref, pdftex & radio button In-Reply-To: <199808072242.AAA12681@lebesgue.math.univ-nantes.fr> References: <199808072242.AAA12681@lebesgue.math.univ-nantes.fr> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Laurent Guillope writes: > In the definition of \@@Radio (hpdftex.fdef), if the line > /\Fld@name\the\Fld@listcount\space \DingObject > is replaced by > /\@currValue\space \DingObject > the expected behaviour occurs. I have made this change, with some trepidation > * the above radio definition doesn't print the star in the ``or'' box : > however, when any box is clicked, the star is displaid as expected sorry, i cannot fix this in time. i need to construct radio buttons `properly', with Kids and Parent, but that needs access to object numbers and I have no time left to investigate > * when the ``\ChoiceMenu[radio=true,....'' is inserted in the array > environment, the boxes don't appear... > haven't looked at this, i am afraid hyperref 6.33 (with other, undocumented, features and fixes) is now on CTAN. I'm off on holiday sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Aug 11 08:06:12 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15854 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 1998 08:06:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA27345 for pdftex-list; Tue, 11 Aug 1998 10:02:16 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA27340 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 1998 10:02:13 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id OAA03086; hop 0; Tue, 11 Aug 1998 14:56:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 11 Aug 1998 15:02:32 +0100 Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 14:49:12 +0100 Message-ID: <2661-Tue11Aug1998144912+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 8-beta-20 Q); VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: epstopdf and BoundingBox In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Colin Marquardt writes: > Hello, > > I just discovered a small problem with Sebastian Rahtz' epstopdf. I corrected at http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/epstopdf Sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Aug 12 11:34:13 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25710 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 11:34:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA30417 for pdftex-list; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 13:28:26 -0400 Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA30414 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 13:28:24 -0400 Received: from fgbbs.iaf.nl by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA19003 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for pdftex@tug.org); Wed, 12 Aug 1998 19:04:07 +0200 Received: by fgbbs.iaf.nl (0.99.950801) id AA06270; 12 Aug 98 18:00:41 +0100 From: fg@fgbbs.iaf.nl (Frans Goddijn) Date: 12 Aug 98 16:27:00 +0100 Subject: epstopdf Message-Id: <3c5_9808121800@fgbbs.iaf.nl> References: <2661-Tue11Aug1998144912+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> Organization: FGBBS at +31 26 3217041 To: pdftex@tug.org Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk said Sebastian Rahtz to All: SR> corrected at http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/epstopdf Trying to get a usable .pdf logo for inclusion in a file I got the above script and used it getting this: Error: /invalidfont in findfont Operand stack: [...] Current allocation mode is local Last OS error: File name too long Current file position is 16485 Aladdin Ghostscript: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1 I suppose this is caused by something stupid on my end ;=} I hear that any font used in the eps file causes errors. In CorelDraw3.0 I made that logo using a font. Is there a way to save/export such afile without it being a "font", just the logo outlines? Met hartelijke groet! Frans Goddijn -- You are what you is From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Aug 12 15:31:18 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01405 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 15:31:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA31005 for pdftex-list; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 17:28:42 -0400 Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA31002 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 17:28:40 -0400 Received: from fgbbs.iaf.nl by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA29502 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for pdftex@tug.org); Wed, 12 Aug 1998 23:05:27 +0200 Received: by fgbbs.iaf.nl (0.99.950801) id AA06272; 12 Aug 98 22:00:36 +0100 From: fg@fgbbs.iaf.nl (Frans Goddijn) Date: 12 Aug 98 19:12:00 +0100 Subject: epstopdf (again) Message-Id: <3c9_9808122200@fgbbs.iaf.nl> Organization: FGBBS at +31 26 3217041 To: pdftex@tug.org Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk After my earlier mail of today I got a new idea. My problem was that my eps to pdf conversion failed. There were fonts in the eps file. To avoid fonts in the eps, I went back to the CorelDraw source, saved the image as GIF, changed the page size to exactly fitting the image and used CorelTrace to make an EPS out of that. Then I retried the http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/epstopdf perl script. Now this script didn't complain, but it didn't get a pdf file beyond the first two lines either... I'll ask a friend with access to a copy of the Distiller to give the conversion a try and I'll report if that pdf file is usable. Met hartelijke groet! Frans Goddijn -- You are what you is From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Aug 12 16:18:03 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02456 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 16:18:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA31179 for pdftex-list; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 18:15:31 -0400 Received: from kraken.apl.washington.edu (kraken96.apl.washington.edu [128.95.96.25]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA31176 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 18:15:30 -0400 Received: from galiano (charon.apl.washington.edu [128.95.97.151]) by kraken.apl.washington.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA28751; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 15:15:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199808122215.PAA28751@kraken.apl.washington.edu> From: "Jody Klymak" To: "Jody Klymak" , "Pdftex@Tug. Org" Subject: pdftex Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 15:17:22 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk *************************************************************** Jody Klymak APL/School of Oceanography, University of Washington jklymak@apl.washington.edu (206)-685-9080 http://www.ocean.washington.edu/people/grads/jklymak/Klymak.html From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Aug 13 10:28:04 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14219 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 10:28:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA32546 for pdftex-list; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 12:20:34 -0400 Received: from gwfs.stud.fh-jena.de (gwfs.stud.fh-jena.de [194.94.37.56]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA32543 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 12:20:28 -0400 Received: from gw4s (gw4s.stud.fh-jena.de [194.94.37.30]) by gwfs.stud.fh-jena.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id SAA18226 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 18:21:49 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 18:16:11 +0200 (MDT) From: Colin Marquardt <941etcm@gwfs.stud.fh-jena.de> X-Sender: 941etcm@gw4s To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: epstopdf Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Frans Goddijn wrote: > Trying to get a usable .pdf logo for inclusion in a file I got the above > script and used it getting this: > > Error: /invalidfont in findfont > Operand stack: > [...] > Current allocation mode is local > Last OS error: File name too long [...] While ghostscript error messages tend to be rather unhelpful for me, this one should be clear. You exceeded the (probably 8+3) naming convention somewhere. It seems to have to do with font names (not sure). GS's Fontmap file *could* have to do with it (wild guess too). > I hear that any font used in the eps file causes errors. In CorelDraw3.0 I No, that was a limitation of early pdf-file-inclusion by pdfTeX. gs can handle fonts, and since v0.12n pdfTeX can include such converted pdf files. Hth, Colin -- Colin Marquardt colin.marquardt@gmx.de Ortsstrasse 28 D-07426 Untersch"obling From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Aug 13 17:08:55 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA23121 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:08:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA00324 for pdftex-list; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 18:59:10 -0400 Received: from esemetz.ese-metz.fr (root@esemetz.ese-metz.fr [193.48.224.212] (may be forged)) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA00321 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 18:59:08 -0400 Received: from HAL9000.ese-metz.fr (ppp3.ese-metz.fr [193.48.224.223]) by esemetz.ese-metz.fr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA09117 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 01:00:25 +0200 Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 01:00:25 +0200 Message-Id: <199808132300.BAA09117@esemetz.ese-metz.fr> From: Fabrice POPINEAU To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: [win32] pdftex 0.12o-6-tiff3 Reply-to: popineau@esemetz.ese-metz.fr Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, The win32 binaries for the latest version are available from : ftp://ftp.ese-metz.fr/pub/TeX/win32-beta/pdftex-0.12o-6-tiff3-win32.zip Fabrice From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Aug 14 06:40:38 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28632 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 06:40:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA00783 for pdftex-list; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 08:32:34 -0400 Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA00780 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 08:32:33 -0400 Received: from fgbbs.iaf.nl by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA04654 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for pdftex@tug.org); Fri, 14 Aug 1998 13:42:51 +0200 Received: by fgbbs.iaf.nl (0.99.950801) id AA06290; 14 Aug 98 12:39:27 +0100 From: fg@fgbbs.iaf.nl (Frans Goddijn) Date: 14 Aug 98 12:31:01 +0100 Subject: eps / tif inclusion in combi context & pdftex Message-Id: <3e5_9808141239@fgbbs.iaf.nl> Organization: FGBBS at +31 26 3217041 To: pdftex@tug.org Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk * Forwarded (from: ntg-context) by Frans Goddijn using timEd/2 1.10+. * Originally from Frans Goddijn (314:85/0) to all. * Original dated: Fri Aug 14, 12:10 The past week I've been experimenting much with the inclusion of a company logo on the title page of a essay book. I hade come to hope/expect that the latest versions of context / pdftex would cope with the EPS file of the logo. After blaming earlier problems with this logo inclusion on my context/pdf setup being not up to date, I blamed the still existing problems to font info retained in the EPS before it was converted to PDF by friends. Yesterday, Taco Hoekwater got an absolutely bitmappy non-font containing EPS from me and he used GhostScript to produce a PDF of it *and* Distiller to produce yet another PDF of it. Also, Siep Kroonenbnerg who has been producing a brochure for the same publisher using the logo, distilled a logo clipped in PDF format for me. Now I was fairly sure that the .PDF file was o.k. Viewing the three logos at home with my Acrobat viewer, I did notice differences between the three different "flavours" of logo: one showed a large white page with the logo in the bottom, one made Acrobat complain that there was no PDF file with that name, at least not beginning with "PDF" in the file, and the third (Siep's pdf) showed fine, the logo exactly fitting on its own small page. Inclusion of the files in my .tex file was done like this : \steluitvoerin[pdftex] \stelpapierformaatin[A5][A5] [...] \starttekst \regelmidden{% \externfiguur[lsylogo][breedte=.4\zetbreedte] } \stoptekst Taco's test.pdf, made with GhostScript, gave: > [2.2^^J<./test.pdfError (328): Unexpected end of file in flatestream>] Taco's testlog.pdf, from Distiller gave: (Siep's lsy2.pdf, produced also via distiller, also got the error below:) > Error (0): PDF file is damaged - attempting to reconstruct xref table... > Error: Couldn't find trailer dictionary > Error: Couldn't read xref table > pdfTeX error (ext1): invalid image dimension. > > \relax \dogetTPDfiguresize ...=\vbox {\pdfimage #2\relax }#3=* \!!zer > opoint #4=\!!ze r... \getfiguHardin redimensionsA ...{\!!widthb > }{\!!heightb } \ifexecuted \chardef \figu... \next > ->\getfiguredimensionsA \getfiguredimensionsB \getfiguredimensionsC > \doifinstringelse ...lse \@EA {\@@instring }{#2}#3 \else #4\fi > \dododoanalyzefigurefiles ...alyzefigurefiles } {} \fi ... l.176 } > ! ==> Fatal error occurred, the output PDF file not finished! > Transcript written on dekunst.log. Now I reverted back to TIF inclusion of the same logo. CorelDraw3.0 exported the TIF for me which I included using: \externfiguur[lsylogo][type=tif,breedte=.4\zetbreedte] % ong. 4cm This has fair results. I first made a small TIF which showed frayed bitmappy, then I saved a larger TIF which crahed the compiler and after I made a slightly less large one, it worked. So even though it's a bit strange that even the most expertly produced EPS files won't work as per manual instructions, I'm relieved that at least the logo is on the page now, and in its small scale it doesn't show any bitmappy uglyness. The too-large TIF file got the following errors: > [2.2^^J<./lsylogo.tifExiting due to signal SIGSEGV > Page fault at eip=00074032, error=0004 > eax=000000ff ebx=00000874 ecx=00140390 edx=015fe3f8 esi=015fa86f > edi=ffffffff > ebp=0014038c esp=0014037c program= > > cs: sel=00d7 base=00400000 limit=0160ffff > ds: sel=00df base=00400000 limit=0160ffff > es: sel=00df base=00400000 limit=0160ffff > fs: sel=00b7 base=000045f0 limit=0000ffff > gs: sel=00ef base=00000000 limit=ffffffff > ss: sel=00df base=00400000 limit=0160ffff > > Call frame traceback EIPs: > 0x00074032 > 0x00073941 > 5066 Met hartelijke groet! Frans Goddijn | bbs: +31 (0)26 3217041 Postbus 30196 | email: fg@fgbbs.iaf.nl 6803 AD Arnhem | tel: +31 (0)26 3219342 The Netherlands | http://www.iaf.nl/Users/Meridian -- You are what you is From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 17 04:45:22 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA29648 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 04:45:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA03553 for pdftex-list; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 06:33:32 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA03550 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 06:33:28 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@SnowWhite.inet.cz [194.196.192.9]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA27044; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 12:29:26 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA00675; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 12:32:34 +0200 To: popineau@esemetz.ese-metz.fr CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [win32] pdftex 0.12o-6-tiff3 References: <199808132300.BAA09117@esemetz.ese-metz.fr> X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.115 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicitised e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicitised e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 17 Aug 1998 12:32:29 +0200 In-Reply-To: Fabrice POPINEAU's message of Fri, 14 Aug 1998 01:00:25 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 13 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: Fabrice POPINEAU Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 01:00:25 +0200 Hi, > The win32 binaries for the latest version are available from : > > ftp://ftp.ese-metz.fr/pub/TeX/win32-beta/pdftex-0.12o-6-tiff3-win32.zip automagically mirrored on ftp://ftp.inet.cz/pub/Mirrors/pdfTeX/Win32/ nightly. -- Pavel Janik ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 17 14:24:02 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14696 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 14:24:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA04651 for pdftex-list; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 16:15:06 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA04648 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 16:15:04 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@dialup2.inet.cz [194.196.193.2]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA22108; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 22:11:02 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA16755; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 22:11:30 +0200 To: Taco Hoekwater CC: Petr Sojka , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex-01.2[no]: Unexpected end of file in flate stream References: X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.115 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicitised e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicitised e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 17 Aug 1998 22:11:20 +0200 In-Reply-To: Taco Hoekwater's message of Sat, 8 Aug 1998 10:50:50 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time) Message-ID: Lines: 26 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: Taco Hoekwater Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 10:50:50 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time) Hi, > Found it, and posted a new version of the zip file. The bug is in > xpdf; I changed it's config.h (xpdf-0.7a/xpdf): > > 57c57 > < #if defined(__WIN32__) || defined(WIN32) > --- > > #if defined(__WIN32__) || defined(WIN32) || defined(MSDOS) > > Since DJGPP of course does not define WIN32. The new version should > work OK (well, the example did). it solves the problem, but what DJGPP exactly defines? Is it MSDOS or something like GO32? It will be in pdftex-0.12o-7. BTW - do you able to compile pdfTeX with DJGPP crosscompiler on Linux? I'm able to compile some small test progs (e.g. main(){} ;) and successfully run it under dosemu, but I'd like to compile and test pdfTeX with DJGPP myself. -- Pavel Janik ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 17 17:22:03 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA18936 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 17:22:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA05653 for pdftex-list; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 19:07:52 -0400 Received: from dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.9]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA05650 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 19:07:51 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id SAA04161 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 18:07:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sfo-ca19-03.ix.netcom.com(205.184.159.35) by dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma004069; Mon Aug 17 18:06:54 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980817160804.007ca100@ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: slpp@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 16:08:04 -0700 To: pdftex@tug.org From: Steve Phipps Subject: New User Seeks Advice Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello. I am a LaTeX user, and am trying to learn more about using pdflatex. I haven't been able to find any useful documentation apart from the example.tex file that came with my MikTeX distribution. That file makes reference to "the PDF Manual", but I haven't been able to find such a beast using Infoseek, Yahoo, or CTAN. Could someone point me in the direction of some helpful, introductory documentation please. Pointers to a pdflatex FAQ, or a library of sample code would definitely be welcome. Thanks in advance for any help. Steve. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 17 17:56:22 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA19590 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 17:56:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA05801 for pdftex-list; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 19:45:39 -0400 Received: from ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (cottrell@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu [152.17.150.2]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA05798 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 19:45:37 -0400 Received: from localhost (cottrell@localhost) by ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA04904; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 19:44:04 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 19:44:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Allin Cottrell To: Steve Phipps cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: New User Seeks Advice In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980817160804.007ca100@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 17 Aug 1998, Steve Phipps wrote: > I haven't been able to find any useful documentation apart from the > example.tex file that came with my MikTeX distribution. That file makes > reference to "the PDF Manual", but I haven't been able to find such a beast > using Infoseek, Yahoo, or CTAN. The manual can be found at: http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftexman.html There has been some talk of a FAQ, but I'm not sure whether one exists. -- Allin Cottrell Department of Economics Wake Forest University, NC From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Aug 18 00:41:29 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA03764 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 1998 00:41:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA06256 for pdftex-list; Tue, 18 Aug 1998 02:36:13 -0400 Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA06253 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 1998 02:36:11 -0400 Received: from localhost (max115.public.ox.ac.uk [192.76.27.115]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id HAA17307; Tue, 18 Aug 1998 07:33:24 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 07:34:54 +0100 (BST) From: Prof Brian D Ripley To: Allin Cottrell cc: Steve Phipps , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: New User Seeks Advice In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 17 Aug 1998, Allin Cottrell wrote: > On Mon, 17 Aug 1998, Steve Phipps wrote: [He asked about advice for pdflatex] > > > I haven't been able to find any useful documentation apart from the > > example.tex file that came with my MikTeX distribution. That file makes > > reference to "the PDF Manual", but I haven't been able to find such a beast > > using Infoseek, Yahoo, or CTAN. > > The manual can be found at: > > http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftexman.html That is the pdftex manual, which may or may not be what was meant. (There is a PDF version too: replace .html by .pdf) The PDF specifications can be found on Adobe's site, but they are not aimed at beginners. In fact, the pdftex manual is not aimed at new LaTeX users of pdftex either. I would advise a new pdflatex user to go straight for the hyperref package (on CTAN), and add \usepackage[pdftex]{hyperref} as the last package in the document preamble. You way want to customize it after reading the manual for hyperref: I use colorlinks,plainpages=false,linkcolor=Blue,citecolor=Blue,urlcolor=Red, pdfstartview=Fit,pdfview=XYZ (and define Red and Blue by \usepackage{color} \definecolor{Blue}{rgb}{0,0,0.8} \definecolor{Red}{rgb}{0.7,0,0} ) If you want to include figures you will need to know more, and I suspect also need a later pdftex than MikTeX provides (unless 1.11 is now out of beta). I would aim to include figures as PDF. To do that, get the latest pdftex.def, supp-mis.tex, supp-pdf.tex and epstopdf from http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex, and use epstopdf to convert EPS figures to PDF (it needs ghostscript and perl, but does work on Win32). -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Aug 18 04:34:51 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA19455 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 1998 04:34:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA06796 for pdftex-list; Tue, 18 Aug 1998 06:30:54 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA06793 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 1998 06:30:50 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@SnowWhite.inet.cz [194.196.192.9]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA26971 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 1998 12:26:47 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA01976; Tue, 18 Aug 1998 12:29:56 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: pdfTeX (+pdfTeX-tiff) with encTeX applied for DOS X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.115 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicitised e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicitised e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 18 Aug 1998 12:29:44 +0200 In-Reply-To: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz's message of Tue, 18 Aug 1998 11:22:46 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 16 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, on ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/local/cstug/janik/pdftex-0.12o-6/binaries (ore ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/local/cstug/janik/pdftex-0.12o-6-tiff3/binaries) you can find pdfTeX binaries for pdfTeXu 0.12o-6 (or pdfTeXu 0.12o-6 with TIFF inclusion support) with Petr Olsak's enctex applied. Author is Jiri Osoba. No warranty, please test it and report results here. Mirror: ftp://ftp.inet.cz/pub/Mirrors/pdfTeX/Janik/pdftex-0.12o-6/binaries/ (or ftp://ftp.inet.cz/pub/Mirrors/pdfTeX/Janik/pdftex-0.12o-6-tiff3/binaries/) -- Pavel Janík ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Aug 18 08:39:37 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA25480 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 1998 08:39:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA07496 for pdftex-list; Tue, 18 Aug 1998 10:29:38 -0400 Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA07493 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 1998 10:29:36 -0400 Received: from fgbbs.iaf.nl by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA17628 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for pdftex@tug.org); Tue, 18 Aug 1998 15:41:44 +0200 Received: by fgbbs.iaf.nl (0.99.950801) id AA06350; 18 Aug 98 14:38:00 +0100 From: fg@fgbbs.iaf.nl (Frans Goddijn) Date: 18 Aug 98 14:34:02 +0100 Subject: pdfTeX (+pdfTeX-tiff) with encTeX applied for DOS Message-Id: <433_9808181438@fgbbs.iaf.nl> References: Organization: FGBBS at +31 26 3217041 To: pdftex@tug.org Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk said Pavel Janik ml. to All: PJm> ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/local/cstug/janik/pdftex-0.12o-6/binaries PJm> ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/local/cstug/janik/pdftex-0.12o-6-tiff3/bina PJm> ries) PJm> you can find pdfTeX binaries for pdfTeXu 0.12o-6 (or pdfTeXu PJm> 0.12o-6 with TIFF inclusion support) with Petr Olsak's enctex Sorry, I don't quite understand. Is this a newer version that I should download for my DOS use? Right now I have the DJGPP version that Taco Hoekwater compiled. For whom is "enctex" important? I use ConTeXt with PDFtex, should I give the above version a try? Met hartelijke groet! Frans Goddijn -- You are what you is From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Aug 18 16:43:29 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA09276 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 1998 16:43:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA08477 for pdftex-list; Tue, 18 Aug 1998 18:41:04 -0400 Received: from lorraine.loria.fr (lorraine.loria.fr [152.81.1.17]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA08474 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 1998 18:41:02 -0400 Received: from renaissance.loria.fr (renaissance.loria.fr [152.81.4.102]) by lorraine.loria.fr (8.8.7/8.8.7/8.8.7/JCG) with ESMTP id AAA02379; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 00:39:23 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Denis B. Roegel" Received: (from roegel@localhost) by renaissance.loria.fr (8.8.2/8.8.2) id AAA06997; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 00:39:20 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 00:39:20 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199808182239.AAA06997@renaissance.loria.fr> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: pdfview=XYZ -> error with distiller Cc: roegel@lorraine.loria.fr Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I do not know if this is normal or not, but I report it anyway: when I use hyperref with pdfview=XYZ, and generate the PS file and then the PDF file with distiller, distiller gives me: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: XYZ ]%% Stack: / -mark- /View -mark- %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% %%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %% 11.6 seconds (0:12) Denis From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Aug 18 23:55:14 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA17308 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 1998 23:55:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA09005 for pdftex-list; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 01:51:20 -0400 Received: from linpwd (linpwd.mpae.gwdg.de [134.76.28.202]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA09002 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 01:51:18 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 07:50:53 +0200 Message-Id: <98081907505336@linpwd.mpae.gwdg.de> From: daly@linpwd.mpae.gwdg.de (P.W.Daly, MPAe, Lindau, Germany) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdfview=XYZ -> error with distiller X-VMS-To: SMTP%"pdftex@tug.org" X-VMS-Cc: DALY Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > I do not know if this is normal or not, but I report it > anyway: when I use hyperref with pdfview=XYZ, and generate > the PS file and then the PDF file with distiller, distiller > gives me: > > %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: XYZ ]%% I have run across this too. It turns out that the page view commands require arguments, but pdfTeX gives sensible default values if they are missing, while pdfmark (dvips -> distiller route) requires them. For XYZ, there are three arguments, and they should be pdfview = {XYZ null null null} to get the desired result. I pointed this out to Sebastian, and even offered to modify hyperref myself so that it added default values to the pdfmark commands. However, I did not get around to this, decided to use pdfTeX anyway, and forgot about it until your message arrived. Incidentally, if you use pdfstartview={FitH} (or FitBH) you need an argument as pdfstartview={FitH -32768} Regards, Patrick ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Patrick W. Daly Tel. [+49] 5556-979-279 Max-Planck-Institut fuer Aeronomie Fax. [+49] 5556-979-240 Max-Planck-Str. 2 D-37191 Katlenburg-Lindau Internet: daly@linmpi.mpg.de Germany ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Aug 19 00:10:42 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA18891 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 00:10:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA09098 for pdftex-list; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 02:09:25 -0400 Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA09095 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 02:09:23 -0400 Received: from localhost (max180.public.ox.ac.uk [192.76.27.180]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id HAA17920; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 07:06:34 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 07:08:02 +0100 (BST) From: Prof Brian D Ripley To: "Denis B. Roegel" cc: pdftex@tug.org, roegel@lorraine.loria.fr Subject: Re: pdfview=XYZ -> error with distiller In-Reply-To: <199808182239.AAA06997@renaissance.loria.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Denis B. Roegel wrote: > > I do not know if this is normal or not, but I report it > anyway: when I use hyperref with pdfview=XYZ, and generate > the PS file and then the PDF file with distiller, distiller > gives me: > > %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: XYZ ]%% This works for me (Distller 3.02, hyperref 1998/08/11 6.33) Look at the .ps file: I get Dict begin [ /View [/XYZ pdf@hoff pdf@voff null] /Dest /page. /Rect [pdf@llx pdf@lly pdf@urx pdf@ury] /DEST pdfmark end One used to need pdfview=/XYZ in earlier hyperrefs: I guess your pdfmark.def is not current. -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Aug 19 00:37:12 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA24669 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 00:37:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA09254 for pdftex-list; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 02:36:05 -0400 Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA09251 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 02:36:04 -0400 Received: from localhost (max180.public.ox.ac.uk [192.76.27.180]) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id HAA08669; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 07:33:19 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 07:34:46 +0100 (BST) From: Prof Brian D Ripley To: "P.W.Daly, MPAe, Lindau, Germany" cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdfview=XYZ -> error with distiller In-Reply-To: <98081907505336@linpwd.mpae.gwdg.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, P.W.Daly, MPAe, Lindau, Germany wrote: > > I do not know if this is normal or not, but I report it > > anyway: when I use hyperref with pdfview=XYZ, and generate > > the PS file and then the PDF file with distiller, distiller > > gives me: > > > > %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: XYZ ]%% > > I have run across this too. It turns out that the page view commands require > arguments, but pdfTeX gives sensible default values if they are missing, while > pdfmark (dvips -> distiller route) requires them. For XYZ, there are three > arguments, and they should be > pdfview = {XYZ null null null} > to get the desired result. The current version (hyperref 6.33) of hdvips.def contains \def\@pdfview{XYZ pdf@hoff pdf@voff null} This overrides any setting in the configuration file hyperref.cfg, which is what I tried and reported a few minutes ago. If you set pdfview=XYZ on the \usepackage line, it will fail as Denis reported. So I think the advice if using XYZ is probably to put pdfview=XYZ in hyperref.cfg: this should (and does for me) work sensibly with both pdftex and dvips+distiller. Perhaps Sebastian could document that he is overriding configuration files here! This seems in conflict with what manual.pdf says. (Incidentally, that talks about site-wide configuration files, but I find it convenient to have one in a directory which, say, contains all the exercise sheets for a course.) > Incidentally, if you use pdfstartview={FitH} (or FitBH) you need an argument > as pdfstartview={FitH -32768} even from a configuration file. -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Aug 19 08:09:58 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA17294 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 08:09:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA09603 for pdftex-list; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 10:02:44 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA09600 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 10:02:39 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@SnowWhite.inet.cz [194.196.192.9]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA14169; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 15:58:33 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA01709; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 16:01:35 +0200 To: fg@fgbbs.iaf.nl (Frans Goddijn) CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdfTeX (+pdfTeX-tiff) with encTeX applied for DOS References: <433_9808181438@fgbbs.iaf.nl> X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.115 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicitised e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicitised e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 19 Aug 1998 16:01:21 +0200 In-Reply-To: fg@fgbbs.iaf.nl's message of 18 Aug 98 14:34:02 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 22 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: fg@fgbbs.iaf.nl (Frans Goddijn) Date: 18 Aug 98 14:34:02 +0100 Hi, > Sorry, I don't quite understand. Is this a newer version that I should > download for my DOS use? Right now I have the DJGPP version that Taco > Hoekwater compiled. For whom is "enctex" important? I use ConTeXt with > PDFtex, should I give the above version a try? No, if you do not know, what encTeX is, you very probably shouldn't try this version :-) To clarify -- encTeX makes life of some people in some countries easier and also makes heads of some people in (different) countries harder... Please do not start flamewar about encTeX here :-) More info about encTeX should be on: ftp://math.feld.cvut.cz/pub/cstex -- Pavel Janik ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Aug 19 15:12:24 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29923 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 15:12:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA10546 for pdftex-list; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 17:08:16 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA10543 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 17:08:14 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@dialup4.inet.cz [194.196.193.4]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA31898 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 23:04:10 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA01612; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 23:06:23 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: pdfTeX and landscape paper once again X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.116 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicitised e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicitised e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 19 Aug 1998 23:05:57 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 65 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I feel stupid, but ... I'd like to print something like this: |-----------------------------------------------| | | | ___________________________________________ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------------------------------------------| It's A4 landscape with one hrule from left to right side of paper (with some fantasy... why not). I expect that: SnowWhite:/home/pavel/Tmp$ cat file.tex \nopagenumbers \pdfpageheight=210mm \pdfpagewidth=297mm \hrule \vfil\eject \bye is enough for pdfTeX. But it is not :-( The result looks like: |-----------------------------------------------| | | | ______________________ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------------------------------------------| Hrule is form left to right, but of portrait A4, but in Acroread (after Fit Page) paper is A4 Landscape. Try it yourself. How can I produce what I want? Isn't it a bug in pdfTeX? If not this should be noted somewhere. BTW - is there anybody working on pdfTeX FAQ? If not, is there any volunteer for this? My pdfTeX: This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-0.12o-6 (Web2C 7.2) -- Pavel Janik ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Aug 19 19:09:26 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA05183 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 19:09:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA10881 for pdftex-list; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 21:03:10 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA10878 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 21:03:08 -0400 Received: from remote142-25.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.25] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #2) id 0z9J84-0006E4-00; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 03:03:05 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19980820030216.2717a710@pop3.uni-freiburg.de> X-Sender: oberdiek@pop3.uni-freiburg.de X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 03:02:16 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: pdfTeX and landscape paper once again In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 23:05 19.08.1998 +0200, Pavel Janik wrote: >I'd like to print something like this: > > > |-----------------------------------------------| > | | > | ___________________________________________ | > | | >[...] > |-----------------------------------------------| > >It's A4 landscape with one hrule from left to right side of paper >(with some fantasy... why not). > >I expect that: > >SnowWhite:/home/pavel/Tmp$ cat file.tex >\nopagenumbers > >\pdfpageheight=210mm >\pdfpagewidth=297mm > > \hrule > >\vfil\eject >\bye > >is enough for pdfTeX. But it is not :-( >The result looks like: > > |-----------------------------------------------| > | | > | ______________________ | > | | >[...] > |-----------------------------------------------| With the example above I see nothing and this is correct: \hrule and \vrule have three specifications "width", "height", and "depth". The default values of \hrule are: height = 0.4pt depth = 0pt width = * See TeXbook, Chapter 21: "The '*' means that the actual dimension depends on the context; the rule will extend to the boundary of the smallest box or alignment that encloses it." The \vbox-page with the \hrule contains nothing else (except vertical glue). Therefore the smallest width is 0pt, a \hrule of width 0pt you can't see. Try the following example: \nopagenumbers \pdfpageheight=210mm \pdfpagewidth=297mm \hoffset=-1in \hrule width \pdfpagewidth \bye Here the width is explicitly given. The line across the page is located one inch below the top of the page. If the page contains a paragraph, then it is set with the width of \hsize; the plain-default is 6.5in, not 297mm and you get the "portrait"-line. >My pdfTeX: >This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-0.12o-6 (Web2C 7.2) I use the same. Yours sincerely Heiko From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Aug 19 20:11:57 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA06341 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 20:11:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA11024 for pdftex-list; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 22:10:32 -0400 Received: from alcor.anu.edu.au (richard@alcor.anu.edu.au [150.203.166.36]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA11021 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 22:10:29 -0400 Received: (from richard@localhost) by alcor.anu.edu.au (8.8.2/8.8.8) id MAA03475; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 12:10:16 +1000 (EST) From: Richard Walker MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13787.34162.147032.969745@alcor> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 12:09:54 +1000 (EST) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdfTeX and landscape paper once again In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.59 under Emacs 19.34.1 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Pavel Janik ml. writes: > \nopagenumbers > > \pdfpageheight=210mm > \pdfpagewidth=297mm > > \hrule > > \vfil\eject > \bye Actually you didn't do this, did you? Because this gives a blank page! A couple of points: 1. You have to tell TeX about the size of the page. Setting \pdfpageheight and \pdfpagewidth just says what settings for paper width and height should be spat out into the pdf file. I've subtracted (approximately) 2 inches from the width and height of the page so that you get a balanced line. 2. You can't use \hrule while in vertical mode . . . \nopagenumbers \pdfpageheight=210mm \pdfpagewidth=297mm \vsize=160mm \hsize=247mm \leavevmode \hrule \vfil\eject \bye From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Aug 20 02:05:59 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA01099 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 02:05:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA11276 for pdftex-list; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 04:00:55 -0400 Received: from NIH2WAAE (smtp5.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.74]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA11273 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 04:00:54 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 04:00:48 -0400 Received: from rd2 (lon-dnbsk-029.gbr.compuserve.net [195.232.125.29]) by hil-img-ims-3.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.4) with SMTP id EAA03266; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 04:00:33 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: From: "David Waller" To: "'Pavel Janik ml.'" , Subject: RE: pdfTeX and landscape paper once again Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 09:02:13 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bdcc10$ec7e86e0$3c640c7b@rd2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199808191711_MC2-568C-D5A6@compuserve.com> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk There is a similar related problem (feature!) in pdflatex. If you specify landscape in the header line of a latex file, then you also have to specify \pdfpagewidth and \pdfpageheight. Wouldn't it be better if pdfpagewidth and pdfpageheight tracked the required sizes. This would have then saved me a lot of time! David Waller PS I like the idea of a pdftexfaq and might be able to provide some help (though my knowledge of TeX is very limited and I would need to be supplied with the questions and answers!) Pavel wrote Hi, I feel stupid, but ... I'd like to print something like this: |-----------------------------------------------| | | | ___________________________________________ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------------------------------------------| It's A4 landscape with one hrule from left to right side of paper (with some fantasy... why not). I expect that: SnowWhite:/home/pavel/Tmp$ cat file.tex \nopagenumbers \pdfpageheight=210mm \pdfpagewidth=297mm \hrule \vfil\eject \bye is enough for pdfTeX. But it is not :-( The result looks like: |-----------------------------------------------| | | | ______________________ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |-----------------------------------------------| Hrule is form left to right, but of portrait A4, but in Acroread (after Fit Page) paper is A4 Landscape. Try it yourself. How can I produce what I want? Isn't it a bug in pdfTeX? If not this should be noted somewhere. BTW - is there anybody working on pdfTeX FAQ? If not, is there any volunteer for this? My pdfTeX: This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-0.12o-6 (Web2C 7.2) -- Pavel Janik ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Aug 20 02:40:18 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA02218 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 02:40:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA11455 for pdftex-list; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 04:36:37 -0400 Received: from nag.co.uk (andover.nag.co.uk [192.156.217.113]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA11452 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 04:36:25 -0400 Received: (from davidc@localhost) by nag.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA01359; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 09:38:50 +0100 Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 09:38:50 +0100 Message-Id: <199808200838.JAA01359@nag.co.uk> From: David Carlisle To: DWaller1@csi.com CC: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <000001bdcc10$ec7e86e0$3c640c7b@rd2> (DWaller1@csi.com) Subject: Re: pdfTeX and landscape paper once again References: <000001bdcc10$ec7e86e0$3c640c7b@rd2> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > If you specify landscape in the header line of a latex file, then you > also have to specify \pdfpagewidth and \pdfpageheight. Wouldn't it be > better if pdfpagewidth and pdfpageheight tracked the required sizes. No, because [landscape] just sets up two dimen registers that are defined by latex and called \paperheight and \paperwidth. But to the underlying TeX system (tex or pdftex) these are just standard dimen registers and have no more special meaning than if you go \newlength{\foobar}. What you want is a latex package that picks up the values of the latex registers current at \begin{document}, and sets the pdftex paramaters accordingly. hyperref will do that, as long as you load it after the class is loaded, which is the normal way, isn't it? David From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Aug 20 07:43:29 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA09707 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 07:43:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA11875 for pdftex-list; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 09:38:37 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA11872 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 09:38:31 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@dialup4.inet.cz [194.196.193.4]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA15348; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 15:34:22 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA01145; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 08:28:54 +0200 To: Richard Walker CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdfTeX and landscape paper once again References: <13787.34162.147032.969745@alcor> X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.116 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicitised e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicitised e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 20 Aug 1998 08:28:42 +0200 In-Reply-To: Richard Walker's message of Thu, 20 Aug 1998 12:09:54 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: Lines: 23 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: Richard Walker Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 12:09:54 +1000 (EST) Hi, > > \nopagenumbers > > > > \pdfpageheight=210mm > > \pdfpagewidth=297mm > > > > \hrule > > > > \vfil\eject > > \bye > > Actually you didn't do this, did you? Because this gives a blank > page! Ouch, I'm right, I'm stupid :-( In my test file, there is a line \centerline{hi}... It works now, thanks. -- Pavel Janík ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Aug 20 08:00:40 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA10244 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 08:00:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA11949 for pdftex-list; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 09:57:40 -0400 Received: from extra.ucc.su.OZ.AU (extra.ucc.su.oz.au [129.78.64.4]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA11945 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 09:57:37 -0400 Received: from mail.usyd.edu.au (mp-5-2.mp.usyd.edu.au [129.78.56.126]) by extra.ucc.su.OZ.AU (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id XAA24114 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 23:57:23 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <35DC2CAB.A2CF5548@mail.usyd.edu.au> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 00:03:23 +1000 From: Robert Howlett X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdfTeX mailing list Subject: hyperlinks in Xobject forms? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I wanted to make a document with the table of contents displayed on every page; so I thought it would be a good idea to make the table of contents a form (which is stored in the file only once but referred to often with \pdfrefform). But I also wanted to be able to click on the entries in the contents to jump to the relevant part of the document. So I tried to use \pdfannotlink inside the box which was to become the form. pdftex complained: pdftex error (ext4): pdfmarks used in forms Apparently what I tried is not legal. Is this because the pdf specifications do not permit links inside forms, or because it is too difficult to implement such a feature in pdftex? I see from pdfspec.pdf that the description of each page has to include a list of all the annotations on the page. Is this what precludes having links in forms which are reused in different parts of the document? Bob From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Aug 20 14:03:20 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA19548 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 14:03:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA12766 for pdftex-list; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 16:00:41 -0400 Received: from kaos.dci.uia.mx ([200.13.98.200]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA12763 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 16:00:39 -0400 From: aflores@kaos.dci.uia.mx Received: by kaos.dci.uia.mx (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA04595; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 13:55:00 -0600 Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 13:55:00 -0600 Message-Id: <199808201955.NAA04595@kaos.dci.uia.mx> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: susbscribe Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-MD5: iVjnDI0L4Q7wz/OZnCl0tw== Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk please enter my email address in the pdftex server From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Aug 20 14:13:36 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA19761 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 14:13:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA12830 for pdftex-list; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 16:10:03 -0400 Received: from kaos.dci.uia.mx ([200.13.98.200]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA12827 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 16:10:01 -0400 From: aflores@kaos.dci.uia.mx Received: by kaos.dci.uia.mx (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA04602; Thu, 20 Aug 1998 14:04:22 -0600 Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 14:04:22 -0600 Message-Id: <199808202004.OAA04602@kaos.dci.uia.mx> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: pdtex spurce files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-MD5: sSKUTIQWqMp+EGweB+ud5Q== Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dear member of this list: I'm just starting trying to use pdftex in a msdos pc computer. I use latex from YandY, and I would like to get some pdf files. Since I feel there is not enought information in the pdftex users manual, I wonder if somebody could send me the source content of some simple latex generating things like maths symbols (i.e.integrals). I would also appreciate some help to get the corresponding pdf file. Best regards Antonio Flores T. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Aug 21 01:30:35 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA19138 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 01:30:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA13660 for pdftex-list; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 03:23:46 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA13657 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 03:23:40 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@SnowWhite.inet.cz [194.196.192.9]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA13056; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 09:19:32 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA01127; Fri, 21 Aug 1998 09:22:36 +0200 To: CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: pdfTeX (Was: Re: pdfTeX and landscape paper once again) References: <000001bdcc10$ec7e86e0$3c640c7b@rd2> X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.117 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicitised e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicitised e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 21 Aug 1998 09:22:33 +0200 In-Reply-To: "David Waller"'s message of Thu, 20 Aug 1998 09:02:13 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 44 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: "David Waller" Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 09:02:13 +0100 Hi, > PS I like the idea of a pdftexfaq and might be able to provide some > help (though my knowledge of TeX is very limited and I would need to > be supplied with the questions and answers!) thanks. So - would you like to maintain pdftex FAQ? I think you can start with questions like: 1. Where can I found pdfTeX? 2. What is the latest version? 3. Where can I found some docs about pdfTeX? 4. How do I use pdflatex (how to generate pdflatex.fmt)? 5. How can I include JPG picture? 6. How can I include PNG picture? 7. How can I include PDF picture? 8. How can I include TIFF picture? 9. How can I use mpost in pdfTeX? 10. What is hyperref? 11. How can I use it? 12. What is context? 13. How can I use it? 14. What kind of fonts can I use? 15. How do I use Type1 fonts? 16. How do I use TrueType fonts? 17. .... I think that everybody on this list can contribute answers :-) If you would like to, please prepend each subject with FAQ: - e.g. if you can contribute new question: Subject: FAQ: How do I .... If you have new question with answer, please use: Subject: FAQ+ANS: How do I .... It would be easier for everybody on this list :-) -- Pavel Janík ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sat Aug 22 06:53:26 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27921 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 06:53:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA15074 for pdftex-list; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 08:43:04 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA15071 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 08:43:01 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@dialup2.inet.cz [194.196.193.2]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA13377; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 14:38:37 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA07500; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 14:39:57 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org CC: Petr Sojka Subject: pdfTeX's FAQ v0.01 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.117 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicitised e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicitised e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 22 Aug 1998 14:39:49 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 230 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, here is the preliminary version of pdfTeX FAQ. I spend only about one hour on it, so please be patient. Any contributions welcomed. If you have some question which should be there, please mail it here or to my address with subject prefix FAQ:. If you have some answer to one of the questions (with or without answer in pdfTeX FAQ) please use subject ANS:. And finally if you have Q+A, use FAQ+ANS: as subject prefix. (Sorry about this, but I received more than 1500 mails per day and this is necessity and should simplify and speed up the work on pdfTeX FAQ). If you write and answer, please use more examples -- it is easy to learn pdfTeX by examples :-) E.g.: If you write answer for question: Q: My PDF file is so large, how do I compress it? You should write something like this: A: pdfTeX can compress its output with help of publicly available library zlib [FIXME: URL here]. By default pdfTeX doesn't compress it's output (exactly, it depends on your configuration). You can specify one of ten levels of compression: from 0 to 9 in the source file by tag \pdfcompresslevel: \pdfcompresslevel9 or in the configuration file (pdftex.cfg): compress_level 9 0 means no compression and 9 is the best (and the slowest) compression. Thanks for your help :-) --- cut here --- pdfTeX FAQ v0.01 Maintainer: Pavel Janík ml. Last modification: Sat Aug 22 14:39:09 CEST 1998 This document is a preliminary version of pdfTeX's frequently asked questions (FAQ) and answers. If you can contribute to this document, please mail to Pavel Janík ml. or to pdfTeX's mailing list . This document is in ISO-8859-2. Q: What is PDF? A: This question is answered in Portable Document Format Reference Manual ([FIXME: URL here]) on page 27. It can not be reproduced here because of the strange copyright reasons. [FIXME: anybody wanted to re-write this answer is welcomed ;-)] Q: What is TeX? A: Q: What is pdfTeX? A: pdfTeX is a variant of well known typesetting program of prof. Donald Erwin Knuth - TeX. Output of Knuth's TeX is a file in DVI format. The difference between TeX and pdfTeX is that pdfTeX directly generates PDF. There is also available [FIXME: is it?] program dvipdf, which can generate PDF file from TeX output. It's author is [FIXME: who?] and dvipdf can be found at [FIXME: where?]. Q: Who is the author of pdfTeX? A: Primary author of pdfTeX is Han The Thanh . [FIXME: in pdftex.ch there is also Petr Sojka and the current head (rector) of Masaryk's University - prof. Jiří Zlatuąka.] Q: Where can I found pdfTeX? A: [FIXME: ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/{janik,thanh}, daily mirror on ftp://ftp.inet.cz/pub/Mirrors/pdfTeX}] Q: What is the latest version? A: Latest version of pdfTeX is pdfTeX-0.12n. This is the latest version od pdfTeX approved by Han The Thanh (for now). After this version the primary author (Han The Thanh) leaves Czech Republic and is away for about three or four months. When he comes back, he will continue on the pdfTeX's development. In the time Thanh is away the pdfTeX's maintainer is Pavel Janík ml (he is also student of Masaryk's University). He releases bug-fixes to pdfTeX-0.12n as versions pdfTeX-0.12o-?, where `?' is a small number. Latest bug-fix release is pdfTeX-0.12o-6. Q: Where can I found some docs about pdfTeX? A: Q: Is there any mailing list about pdfTeX? A: Q: Where can I found archive on pdfTeX mailing list? A: [FIXME: ftp://ftp.tug.org/...., daily mirror ftp://ftp.inet.cz/pub/Mirrors/...] Q: How do I install latest version of pdfTeX? A: [FIXME: see script Install and comment it!, add some URLS of web-*, web2c-*, ...] Q: How do I use pdflatex (how to generate pdflatex.fmt)? A: Q: Why use pdflatex vs (??? i.e. latex2html)? A: Q: My PDF file is so large, how do I compress it? A: pdfTeX can compress its output with help of publicly available library zlib [FIXME: URL here]. By default pdfTeX doesn't compress it's output (exactly, it depends on your configuration). You can specify one of ten levels of compression: from 0 to 9 in the source file by tag \pdfcompresslevel: \pdfcompresslevel9 or in the configuration file (pdftex.cfg): compress_level 9 0 means no compression and 9 is the best (and the slowest) compression. Q: How do I include pictures in pdfTeX? A: Q: How do I include pictures in pdfLaTeX? A: Q: How do I include PDF pictures? A: Q: How do I include TIFF pictures? A: Q: How do I convert an EPS figure to PDF? A: You can use epstopdf at http://tug.org/applications/pdftex/epstopdf.pl or Distiller to do the work for you. [FIXME: add an example here] Q: How can I use mpost in pdfTeX? A: Q: What is hyperref? A: Q: How can I use it? A: Q: What is context? A: Q: How can I use it? A: Q: What kind of fonts can I use? A: Q: How do I use Type1 fonts? A: Q: How do I use TrueType fonts? A: Q: How do I use pk fonts? A: Contributors: Pavel Janík ml. Jody Klymak --- cut here --- -- Pavel Janík ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sat Aug 22 07:22:38 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28633 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 07:22:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA15201 for pdftex-list; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 09:19:48 -0400 Received: from ha1.rdc1.md.home.com (siteadm@ha1.rdc1.md.home.com [24.2.2.66]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA15198 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 09:19:46 -0400 Received: from cc240476-a.hwrd1.md.home.com ([24.3.20.103]) by ha1.rdc1.md.home.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA1890 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 06:19:42 -0700 From: jeffmcarthur@home.com (Jeffrey McArthur) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Forms Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 13:11:28 GMT Organization: ATLIS Publishing Services Reply-To: jeffmcarthur@home.com Message-ID: <35dfc2c9.3620575@mail> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id JAA15199 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I would like to learn to do forms with PDFTeX. Where do I start? I would really like to use plain TeX and not LaTeX, so is there a tutorial on how to create PDF Forms with plain TeX? Jeffrey M\kern-.05em\raise.5ex\hbox{\b c}\kern-.05emArthur a.k.a. Jeffrey McArthur ATLIS Publishing Services http://members.home.net/jeffmcarthur/ From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sat Aug 22 09:00:58 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00974 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 09:00:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA15382 for pdftex-list; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 10:58:08 -0400 Received: from gwfs.stud.fh-jena.de (gwfs.stud.fh-jena.de [194.94.37.56]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA15379 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 10:58:06 -0400 Received: from gw4s (gw4s.stud.fh-jena.de [194.94.37.30]) by gwfs.stud.fh-jena.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id QAA11155 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 16:58:53 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 16:53:10 +0200 (MDT) From: Colin Marquardt <941etcm@gwfs.stud.fh-jena.de> X-Sender: 941etcm@gw4s To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: FAQ: Structuring the FAQ Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, good to have a start on an FAQ now. Since even one hour of Pavel's work yielded so much, I would suggest that we agree on a structure of the FAQ. With growing content a linear presentation will become more and more insufficient. I also would like to suggest that there is some template into which to fill one FAQ topic. Maybe a TeX macro/package, since this can be easily converted to e.g. HTML, and since this allows an automatically created TOC, which is very convenient. Of course, having a nice PDF document of the FAQ is most desirable :-) Also, sending a new entry in such a template makes things more easy for the maintainer. This package for reporting errors in the Graphics COmpanion could be a good start. I'm sure some people on this list have more experience in maintaining an FAQ than myself, so this is just some suggestions. Or we could ask e.g. Robin Fairbairns about his experience with the TeX FAQ. The structure could be something like that: General TeX and PDF What can be done Author(s) Information Mailing List TUG-site How to get new versions of this FAQ Installation Graphics General Vector Graphics Bitmap Formats Fonts Type 1 TrueType pk Miscellaneous context hyperref Cheers, Colin -- Colin Marquardt colin.marquardt@gmx.de Ortsstrasse 28 D-07426 Unterschoebling From "Nelson H. F. Beebe " Sat Aug 22 09:36:04 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from plot79.math.utah.edu (beebe@plot79.math.utah.edu [155.101.20.21]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01848; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 09:36:03 -0600 (MDT) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Received: (from beebe@localhost) by plot79.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA06133; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 09:36:02 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 09:36:02 -0600 (MDT) To: pdftex@tug.org Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: More on PDFTeX FAQ Message-ID: Colin Marquardt writes on Sat, 22 Aug 1998 16:53:10 +0200 (MDT): >> I would suggest that we agree on a structure of the FAQ. With >> growing content a linear presentation will become more and more >> insufficient. I heartily concur. Yesterday, I bought a copy of this recent book: @String{pub-ADOBE-PRESS = "Adobe Press"} @String{pub-ADOBE-PRESS:adr = "Mountain View, CA, USA"} @Book{Adobe:1997:AFA, author = "{Adobe Press}", title = "{Adobe FAQ}: {Adobe}'s most frequently asked questions answered", publisher = pub-ADOBE-PRESS, address = pub-ADOBE-PRESS:adr, pages = "xvi + 774", year = "1997", ISBN = "1-56830-372-6", LCCN = "????", bibdate = "Fri Aug 21 12:48:20 1998", note = "Includes CD-ROM.", acknowledgement = ack-nhfb, annote = "Covers Adobe Acrobat 3.0 (Capture, Distiller, Exchange, Reader), After Effects 3.1, FontFolio 7.09, Framemaker 5 Illustrator 7.0, PageMaker 6.5, PageMill 2.0, Persuasion 4.0 PhotoShop 4.0, Premiere 4.2 SiteMill 1.0, and Type Manager Deluxe.", } It is a hefty tome, but its very existence shows that with proper forethought, a large FAQ (or set of FAQs) can be usefully put together into a handy reference volume, provided that the original material has consistent, and complete, document markup. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sat Aug 22 09:40:12 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01946 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 09:40:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA15520 for pdftex-list; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 11:36:09 -0400 Received: from csc-sun.math.utah.edu (root@csc-sun.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.2]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA15517 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 11:36:07 -0400 Received: from plot79.math.utah.edu (beebe@plot79.math.utah.edu [155.101.20.21]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01848; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 09:36:03 -0600 (MDT) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Received: (from beebe@localhost) by plot79.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA06133; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 09:36:02 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 09:36:02 -0600 (MDT) To: pdftex@tug.org Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: More on PDFTeX FAQ Message-ID: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Colin Marquardt writes on Sat, 22 Aug 1998 16:53:10 +0200 (MDT): >> I would suggest that we agree on a structure of the FAQ. With >> growing content a linear presentation will become more and more >> insufficient. I heartily concur. Yesterday, I bought a copy of this recent book: @String{pub-ADOBE-PRESS = "Adobe Press"} @String{pub-ADOBE-PRESS:adr = "Mountain View, CA, USA"} @Book{Adobe:1997:AFA, author = "{Adobe Press}", title = "{Adobe FAQ}: {Adobe}'s most frequently asked questions answered", publisher = pub-ADOBE-PRESS, address = pub-ADOBE-PRESS:adr, pages = "xvi + 774", year = "1997", ISBN = "1-56830-372-6", LCCN = "????", bibdate = "Fri Aug 21 12:48:20 1998", note = "Includes CD-ROM.", acknowledgement = ack-nhfb, annote = "Covers Adobe Acrobat 3.0 (Capture, Distiller, Exchange, Reader), After Effects 3.1, FontFolio 7.09, Framemaker 5 Illustrator 7.0, PageMaker 6.5, PageMill 2.0, Persuasion 4.0 PhotoShop 4.0, Premiere 4.2 SiteMill 1.0, and Type Manager Deluxe.", } It is a hefty tome, but its very existence shows that with proper forethought, a large FAQ (or set of FAQs) can be usefully put together into a handy reference volume, provided that the original material has consistent, and complete, document markup. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sat Aug 22 14:13:10 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA08606 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 14:13:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA15733 for pdftex-list; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 16:07:29 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA15730 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 16:07:26 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@dialup3.inet.cz [194.196.193.3]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA23309; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 22:03:12 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA13044; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 22:03:54 +0200 To: Colin Marquardt <941etcm@gwfs.stud.fh-jena.de> CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: FAQ: pdfTeX-FAQ v0.02 (Was: Re: FAQ: Structuring the FAQ) References: X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.117 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicitised e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicitised e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 22 Aug 1998 22:03:41 +0200 In-Reply-To: Colin Marquardt's message of Sat, 22 Aug 1998 16:53:10 +0200 (MDT) Message-ID: Lines: 486 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: Colin Marquardt <941etcm@gwfs.stud.fh-jena.de> Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 16:53:10 +0200 (MDT) Hi Colin, > good to have a start on an FAQ now. Since even one hour of Pavel's work > yielded so much, I would suggest that we agree on a structure of the > FAQ. OK, I agree with you. Before I read your mail I spend another hour on editing pdfTeX FAQ (well, now I should do something different, but pdfTeX is a lot better... You know ;-) and after reading your mail I added some things. > template into which to fill one FAQ topic. Maybe a TeX macro/package, > since this can be easily converted to e.g. HTML, and since this allows > an automatically created TOC, which is very convenient. Of course, > having a nice PDF document of the FAQ is most desirable :-) I think, that now (see the pdfTeX FAQ v0.02 in the attachment) all of this can be easily done. BTW: I use something like this to preview FAQ in text: SnowWhite:/home/pavel/PDF/pdfTeX$ egrep -v '\\|}|%' pdfTeX-FAQ |head pdfTeX FAQ v0.02 Pavel Janík ml. Sat Aug 22 21:57:54 CEST 1998 This document is a preliminary version of pdfTeX's frequently asked SnowWhite:/home/pavel/PDF/pdfTeX$ I bet that pdfTeX-FAQ to LaTeX converter will be no more than 2 lines of Perl code ;-) > sending a new entry in such a template makes things more easy for the > maintainer. :-)) Of course. Template for new entry is now very easy: \question{ } \answer{ } Isn't it as easy as it can be? Thanks for your help Colin. Anybody wanted to create some TeX (or pdfTeX ;-) macros is welcomed (please mail me before starting the work on it -- we should not duplicate our work). Any comments (spelling fixes too ;-) of pdfTeX-FAQ format are welcomed too. P.S. I added some simple questions - please read it and help us to complete The_newest_and_greatest_pdfTeX_FAQ (tm). Thanks for your help. --- cut here --- % This is pdfTeX FAQ. \title{ pdfTeX FAQ } \version{ v0.02 } \author{ Pavel Janík ml. } \lastmodification{ Sat Aug 22 21:57:54 CEST 1998 } \abstract{ This document is a preliminary version of pdfTeX's frequently asked questions (FAQ) and answers. If you can contribute to this document, please mail to Pavel Janík ml. or to pdfTeX's mailing list . This document is in ISO-8859-2. } \section{ General } \subsection{ TeX and PDF } \question{ What is TeX? } \answer{ From `TeX -- The Program' by Donald E. Knuth: This is TeX, a document compiler intended to produce typesetting of high quality. } \question{ What is PDF? } \answer{ This question is answered in Portable Document Format Reference Manual ([FIXME: URL here]) on page 27. It can not be reproduced here because of the strange copyright reasons. [FIXME: anybody wanted to re-write this answer is welcomed ;-)] } \question{ How can I view PDF file? } \answer{ } \question{ What is pdfTeX? } \answer{ pdfTeX is a variant of well known typesetting program of prof. Donald Erwin Knuth -- TeX. Output of Knuth's TeX is a file in DVI format. The difference between TeX and pdfTeX is that pdfTeX directly generates PDF. There is also available [FIXME: is it?] program dvipdf, which can generate PDF file from TeX output. It's author is [FIXME: who?] and dvipdf can be found at [FIXME: where?]. } \subsection{ Authors } \question{ Who is the author of pdfTeX? } \answer{ Primary author of pdfTeX is Han The Thanh . [FIXME: in pdftex.ch there is also Petr Sojka and the current head (rector) of Masaryk's University - prof. Jiří Zlatuąka.] } \section{ Information } \question{ Where can I found pdfTeX? } \answer{ [FIXME: ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/{janik,thanh}, daily mirror on ftp://ftp.inet.cz/pub/Mirrors/pdfTeX}] } \question{ What is the latest version? } \answer{ Latest version of pdfTeX is pdfTeX-0.12n. This is the latest version od pdfTeX approved by Han The Thanh (for now). After this version the primary author (Han The Thanh) leaves Czech Republic and is away for about three or four months. When he comes back, he will continue on the pdfTeX's development. In the time Thanh is away the pdfTeX's maintainer is Pavel Janík ml (he is also student of Masaryk's University). He releases bug-fixes to pdfTeX-0.12n as versions pdfTeX-0.12o-?, where `?' is a small number. Latest bug-fix release is pdfTeX-0.12o-6. } \question{ Where can I found some docs about pdfTeX? } \answer{ } \question{ Is there any mailing list about pdfTeX? } \answer{ } \question{ Where can I found archive on pdfTeX mailing list? } \answer{ [FIXME: ftp://ftp.tug.org/...., daily mirror ftp://ftp.inet.cz/pub/Mirrors/...] } \question{ How to get new versions of this FAQ? } \answer{ This document is periodically posted to pdfTeX's mailing list. } \section{ Instalation } \question{ How do I install latest version of pdfTeX? } \answer{ [FIXME: see script Install and comment it!, add some URLS of web-*, web2c-*, ...] } \question{ How do I use pdflatex (how to generate pdflatex.fmt)? } \answer{ } \question{ Why use pdflatex vs (??? i.e. latex2html)? } \answer{ } \question{ My PDF file is so large, how do I compress it? } \answer{ pdfTeX can compress its output with help of publicly available library zlib [FIXME: URL here]. By default pdfTeX doesn't compress it's output (exactly, it depends on your configuration). You can specify one of ten levels of compression: from 0 to 9 in the source file by tag \pdfcompresslevel: \pdfcompresslevel9 or in the configuration file (pdftex.cfg): compress_level 9 0 means no compression and 9 is the best (and the slowest) compression. } \section{ Graphics } \subsection{ General } \question{ How do I include pictures in pdfTeX? } \answer{ } \question{ How do I include pictures in pdfLaTeX? } \answer{ } \subsection{ Vector Formats } \question{ How do I include PDF pictures? } \answer{ } \question{ How do I convert an EPS figure to PDF? } \answer{ You can use epstopdf at http://tug.org/applications/pdftex/epstopdf.pl or Distiller to do the work for you. [FIXME: add an example here] } \subsection{ Bitmap Formats } \question{ How do I include TIFF pictures? } \answer{ } \subsection{ Misc } \question{ How can I use mpost in pdfTeX? } \answer{ } \section{ Miscellaneous } \subsection{ Hyperref } \question{ What is hyperref? } \answer{ } \question{ How can I use it? } \answer{ } \subsection{ ConTeXt } \question{ What is ConTeXt? } \answer{ } \question{ How can I use it? } \answer{ \section{ Fonts } \subsection{ General } \question{ What kind of fonts can I use? } \answer{ } \subsection{ Type1 fonts } \question{ How do I use Type1 fonts? } \answer{ } \question{ How do I generate TFM files for Type1 fonts? } \answer{ } \subsection{ TrueType fonts } \question{ How do I use TrueType fonts? } \answer{ } \question{ How do I generate TFM files for TrueType fonts? } \answer{ } \subsection{ pk fonts } \question{ How do I use pk fonts? } \answer{ } \question{ Why Acrobat Reader displays pk fonts so bad? } \answer{ } \contributors{ Pavel Janík ml. Jody Klymak Colin Marquardt <941etcm@gwfs.stud.fh-jena.de> } --- cut here --- -- Pavel Janík ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sat Aug 22 16:51:27 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12411 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 16:51:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA15915 for pdftex-list; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 18:47:49 -0400 Received: from kraken.apl.washington.edu (kraken.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.25]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA15912 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 18:47:47 -0400 Received: from galiano (charon.apl.washington.edu [128.95.97.151]) by kraken.apl.washington.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA08259; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 15:47:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199808222247.PAA08259@kraken.apl.washington.edu> From: "Jody Klymak" To: "Pavel Janik ml." Cc: Subject: FAQ: pdfTeX-FAQ v0.02 (Was: Re: FAQ: Structuring the FAQ) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 15:49:24 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello Pavel I like Collin's idea of a logical mark-up for the FAQ. I was just curious why you decided that questions and answers weren't to be paired? Perhaps \question{QUESTION TEXT}{ANSWER TEXT}. I was also wondering if an evnironment may be a better way to handle this. \begin{question} \question TEXT \answer TEXT \label{qa:example} \end{question} This would allow various answers to reference (see \ref{qa:example}) one another without people needing to keep track of question numbers. Of course, this is easy for me to suggest - I have no idea how such a thing would be programmed in TeX! Thanks for getting a FAQ rolling. I know it'll help me. Cheers, Jody *************************************************************** Jody Klymak APL/School of Oceanography, University of Washington jklymak@apl.washington.edu (206)-685-9080 http://www.ocean.washington.edu/people/grads/jklymak/Klymak.html From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sun Aug 23 03:11:27 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA14085 for ; Sun, 23 Aug 1998 03:11:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA16419 for pdftex-list; Sun, 23 Aug 1998 05:09:37 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA16416 for ; Sun, 23 Aug 1998 05:09:34 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@dialup2.inet.cz [194.196.193.2]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA02199; Sun, 23 Aug 1998 11:05:24 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA01087; Sun, 23 Aug 1998 10:56:39 +0200 To: "Jody Klymak" CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: FAQ: pdfTeX-FAQ v0.02 (Was: Re: FAQ: Structuring the FAQ) References: <199808222247.PAA08259@kraken.apl.washington.edu> X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.117 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicitised e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicitised e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 23 Aug 1998 10:56:35 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Jody Klymak"'s message of Sat, 22 Aug 1998 15:49:24 -0700 Message-ID: Lines: 45 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: "Jody Klymak" Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 15:49:24 -0700 Hi, > I like Collin's idea of a logical mark-up for the FAQ. I was just curious > why you decided that questions and answers weren't to be paired? Perhaps > \question{QUESTION TEXT}{ANSWER TEXT}. I was also wondering if an > evnironment may be a better way to handle this. I do not use LaTeX myself, so I choosed something different: Look carefully (comments after \%): --- cut here --- \section{General}{ % This is section label for future reference General % This is section title } \subsection{TeX_and_PDF}{ % This is subsection label for future reference TeX and PDF % This is subsection title } \question{What_is_TeX}{ % The same for question What is TeX? }{ From `TeX -- The Program' by Donald Erwin Knuth: ``This is TeX, a document compiler intended to produce typesetting of high quality''. } --- cut here --- > Of course, this is easy for me to suggest - I have no idea how > such a thing would be programmed in TeX! :-) I know how can I do it, but thats not a point, the perfect FAQ macros can be done later. Now we must fill in the questions and answers. Please comments on FAQ structure directly to me. I _really_ want to work on FAQ, the structure can be changed everytime. It's question of 5 minutes on the Perl (or AWK) script. -- Pavel Janík ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 24 02:28:12 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA04286 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 02:28:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA17165 for pdftex-list; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 04:21:59 -0400 Received: from NIH2WAAE (smtp5.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.74]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA17162 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 04:21:57 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 04:21:56 -0400 Received: from rd2 (ld55-069.lon.compuserve.com [195.232.29.69]) by hil-img-ims-4.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.4) with SMTP id EAA03437; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 04:21:46 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: From: "David Waller" To: "'Pavel Janik ml.'" , Subject: ANS: How do I include pictures in pdfLaTex Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 09:23:31 +0100 Message-ID: <000401bdcf38$8bb5af20$3c640c7b@rd2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199808220852_MC2-56EA-BE2F@compuserve.com> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Pavel Thanks for starting the FAQ, here are some answers to problems I have had when including pictures of various forms in pdfLaTeX To include pictures in .JPEG, .pdf, or .png or .mps (metapost output format) I use the following: %% In the preamble add \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} %% In the main document, immediately after \begin{document} \DeclareGraphicsExtensions{.jpg,.pdf,.mps,.png} %% to include a graphics file \includegraphics{filename to include} The package will then search for the filename with the above extensions if one isn't provided. With this package the image can also be scaled or cropped. This uses D.P Carlisle's 'graphics' bundle and is available on CTAN at /macros/latex/packages/graphics David Waller DWaller1@csi.com From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 24 03:12:56 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05367 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 03:12:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA17293 for pdftex-list; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 05:08:01 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA17290 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 05:07:55 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@SnowWhite.inet.cz [194.196.192.9]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA06501 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 11:03:41 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA03969; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 11:06:49 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: pdfTeX-FAQ v0.03 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.117 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicitised e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicitised e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 24 Aug 1998 11:06:45 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 400 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, here is next iteration on pdfTeX-FAQ. Please contribute answers (or questions with answer) in this format. --- cut here --- % This is the pdfTeX FAQ. \title{ The pdfTeX FAQ } \version{ v0.03 } \author{ Pavel Janík ml. } \lastmodification{ Mon Aug 24 10:42:31 CEST 1998 } \abstract{ This document is a preliminary version of pdfTeX's frequently asked questions (FAQ) and answers. If you can contribute to this document, please mail to Pavel Janík ml. or to pdfTeX's mailing list . This document is in TeX syntax. The character set is ISO-8859-2. } \copyright{ This document is freely distributable. } \section{General}{ General } \subsection{TeX_and_PDF}{ TeX and PDF } \question{What_is_TeX}{ What is TeX? }{ From `TeX -- The Program' by Donald E. Knuth: ``This is TeX, a document compiler intended to produce typesetting of high quality''. } \question{What_is_PDF}{ What is PDF? }{ This question is answered in Portable Document Format Reference Manual ([FIXME: URL here]) on page 27. It can not be reproduced here because of the strange copyright reasons. [FIXME: anybody wanted to re-write this answer is welcomed ;-)] } \question{How_can_I_view_a_PDF_file}{ How can I view a PDF file? }{ [FIXME: some words about Acrobat Reader + its URL, about Xpdf and other PDF vievers] } \question{What_is_pdfTeX}{ What is pdfTeX? }{ pdfTeX is a variant of well known typesetting program of prof. Donald E. Knuth -- TeX. Output of Knuth's TeX is a file in DVI format. The difference between TeX and pdfTeX is that pdfTeX directly generates PDF. There is also the [FIXME: is it?] program ``dvipdf'', which can generate PDF file from TeX output. Its author is Sergey Lesenko and dvipdf can be found at [FIXME: where?]. } \subsection{Authors}{ Authors } \question{Who_is_the_author_of_pdfTeX}{ Who is the author of pdfTeX? }{ Primary author of pdfTeX is Han The Thanh . [FIXME: in pdftex.ch there is also Petr Sojka and the current head (rector) of Masaryk's University - prof. Jiří Zlatuąka.] } \section{Information}{ Information } \question{Where_can_I_find_pdfTeX}{ Where can I find pdfTeX? }{ [FIXME: ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/{janik,thanh}, daily mirror on ftp://ftp.inet.cz/pub/Mirrors/pdfTeX}] } \question{What_is_the_latest_version}{ What is the latest version? }{ The latest version of pdfTeX is pdfTeX-0.12n. This is the latest version of pdfTeX approved by Han The Thanh (for now). After this version the primary author (Han The Thanh) leaved Czech Republic and is away for about three or four months. When he comes back, he will continue on the pdfTeX's development. In the time Thanh is away the pdfTeX's maintainer is Pavel Janík ml (he is also student of Masaryk's University). He releases bug-fixes to pdfTeX-0.12n as versions pdfTeX-0.12o-?, where `?' is a small number. The latest bug-fix release is pdfTeX-0.12o-6. } \question{Where_can_I_find_some_docs_about_pdfTeX}{ Where can I find some docs about pdfTeX? }{ [FIXME: pdfTeX manual, pdfTeX FAQ, archive of pdfTeX mailing list and the best documentation is in the source files...] } \question{Is_there_any_mailing_list_about_pdfTeX}{ Is there any mailing list about pdfTeX? }{ [FIXME: pdftex@tug.org] } \question{Where_can_I_find_archive_of_pdfTeX_mailing_list}{ Where can I find archive of pdfTeX mailing list? }{ [FIXME: ftp://ftp.tug.org/...., daily mirror ftp://ftp.inet.cz/pub/Mirrors/...] } \question{How_to_get_new_versions_of_this_FAQ}{ How to get new versions of this FAQ? }{ This document is periodically posted to pdfTeX's mailing list. } \section{Installation}{ Installation } % some subsections for various OSes here \question{How_do_I_install_latest_version_of_pdfTeX}{ How do I install latest version of pdfTeX? }{ [FIXME: see script Install and comment it!, add some URLS of web-*, web2c-*, ...] } \question{How_do_I_use_pdflatex}{ How do I use pdflatex (how to generate pdflatex.fmt)? }{ } \question{Why_use_pdflatex}{ Why use pdflatex vs (??? i.e. latex2html)? }{ } \question{How_do_I_compress_my_PDF_files}{ My do I compress my PDF files? }{ pdfTeX can compress its output. By default pdfTeX doesn't compress it's output though (exactly, it depends on your configuration). You can specify one of ten levels of compression: from 0 to 9 in the source file by tag \pdfcompresslevel: \pdfcompresslevel9 or in the configuration file (pdftex.cfg): compress_level 9 0 means no compression and 9 is the best (and the slowest) compression. } \question{What_can_I_do_with_this_pdftex.cfg_file}{ What can I do with this pdftex.cfg file? }{ } \section{Graphics}{ Graphics } \subsection{Graphics_in_general}{ Graphics in general } \question{How_do_I_include_pictures_in_pdfTeX}{ How do I include pictures in pdfTeX? }{ } \question{How_do_I_include_pictures_in_pdfLaTeX?} How do I include pictures in pdfLaTeX? }{ } \subsection{Vector_Formats}{ Vector Formats } \question{How_do_I_include_PDF_pictures}{ How do I include PDF pictures? }{ } \question{How_do_I_convert_an_EPS_figure_to_PDF}{ How do I convert an EPS figure to PDF? }{ You can use epstopdf (a Perl script which uses Ghostscript for conversion) at http://tug.org/applications/pdftex/epstopdf.pl or Distiller to do the work for you. [FIXME: add an example here] } \subsection{Bitmap_Formats}{ Bitmap Formats } \question{How_do_I_include_TIFF_pictures}{ How do I include TIFF pictures? }{ } \subsection{Other_Graphics}{ Other Graphics } \question{How_can_I_use_MetaPost_in_pdfTeX}{ How can I use MetaPost in pdfTeX? }{ } \section{Miscellaneous}{ Miscellaneous } \question{What_is_this_kpathsea?}{ What is this kpathsea? }{ } \subsection{Hyperref}{ Hyperref } \question{What_is_hyperref}{ What is hyperref? }{ } \question{How_can_I_use_it}{ How can I use it? }{ } \question{My_pdftex.cfg_says_to_use_A4...}{ My pdftex.cfg says to use A4 paper, but the document comes out in Letter format. }{ You certainly use hyperref. This package sets the page dimensions according to your settings in LaTeX. If you do not specify ``a4paper'' in your options to \documentclass, it assumes Letter paper and overrides the entries in your pdftex.cfg file. } \question{I_get_the_message...}{ I get the message: "ext1: destination with the same identifier already exists" [FIXME: what is the exact message?] }{ } \subsection{ConTeXt}{ ConTeXt } \question{What_is_ConTeXt}{ What is ConTeXt? }{ } \question{How_can_I_use_ConTeXt}{ How can I use ConTeXt? }{ } \section{Fonts_in_pdfTeX}{ Fonts in pdfTeX } \subsection{Fonts_in_general}{ Fonts in general } \question{What_kind_of_fonts_can_I_use}{ What kind of fonts can I use? }{ } \subsection{Type1_fonts}{ Type1 fonts } \question{How_do_I_use_Type1_fonts}{ How do I use Type1 fonts? }{ } \question{How_do_I_generate_TFM_files_for_Type1_fonts}{ How do I generate TFM files for Type1 fonts? }{ } \subsection{TrueType_fonts}{ TrueType fonts } \question{How_do_I_use_TrueType_fonts}{ How do I use TrueType fonts? }{ } \question{How_do_I_generate_TFM_files_for_TrueType_fonts} How do I generate TFM files for TrueType fonts? }{ } \subsection{pk_fonts}{ pk fonts } \question{How_do_I_use_pk_fonts}{ How do I use pk fonts? }{ } \question{Why_does_Acrobat_Reader_display_pk_fonts_so_bad}{ Why does Acrobat Reader display pk fonts so bad? }{ } \contributors{ Pavel Janík ml. Jody Klymak Colin Marquardt } --- cut here --- -- Pavel Janík ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 24 07:09:50 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10842 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 07:09:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA17947 for pdftex-list; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 09:05:52 -0400 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA17944 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 09:05:50 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.20.119]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA405F; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 15:05:23 +0200 Message-ID: <35E16376.707F5DA@wxs.nl> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 14:58:30 +0200 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jody Klymak CC: "Pavel Janik ml." , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: FAQ: pdfTeX-FAQ v0.02 (Was: Re: FAQ: Structuring the FAQ) References: <199808222247.PAA08259@kraken.apl.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Jody Klymak wrote: > > Hello Pavel > > I like Collin's idea of a logical mark-up for the FAQ. I was just curious > why you decided that questions and answers weren't to be paired? Perhaps > \question{QUESTION TEXT}{ANSWER TEXT}. I was also wondering if an > evnironment may be a better way to handle this. > > \begin{question} > \question TEXT > \answer TEXT > \label{qa:example} > \end{question} > > This would allow various answers to reference (see \ref{qa:example}) one > another without people needing to keep track of question numbers. Of > course, this is easy for me to suggest - I have no idea how such a thing > would be programmed in TeX! A slightly different output will make faqs as found on www.ntg.nl/context/ppchtex.htm possible. That one has a rather trivial input format but offers linked indexes and some more. If found useful I can work out details with pavel later (when I've catched up). Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 24 07:10:27 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10887 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 07:10:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA17951 for pdftex-list; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 09:05:56 -0400 Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA17948 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 09:05:55 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.20.119]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAAA88; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 15:05:14 +0200 Message-ID: <35E15B6D.A3B13B4@wxs.nl> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 14:24:13 +0200 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Howlett CC: pdfTeX mailing list Subject: Re: hyperlinks in Xobject forms? References: <35DC2CAB.A2CF5548@mail.usyd.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Robert Howlett wrote: > Apparently what I tried is not legal. > Is this because the pdf specifications do not permit links > inside forms, or because it is too difficult to implement > such a feature in pdftex? > I see from pdfspec.pdf that the description of each page has to > include a list of all the annotations on the page. Is this > what precludes having links in forms which are reused in > different parts of the document? You're right. The problem is that embedding links in a form that itself can be refered to in a links that then of course could also be used in etc etc. would lead to rather complicated linked lists and drastically would reduce drawing/browsing speed. Also much more page annot dicts entries would be needed in optimized pdf code. In this respect, repeated inclusion is not much more inefficient than the alternative. Yo can of course try to share as many texts/graphics in objects, but that's up to the macro package anyway. Currently ConTeXt does some optimization in this area, but only within reasonanble bounds. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Aug 25 05:52:17 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA01569 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 05:52:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA19390 for pdftex-list; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 07:41:12 -0400 Received: from linpwd (linpwd.mpae.gwdg.de [134.76.28.202]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA19387 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 07:41:10 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 13:40:35 +0200 Message-Id: <98082513403578@linpwd.mpae.gwdg.de> From: daly@linpwd.mpae.gwdg.de (P.W.Daly, MPAe, Lindau, Germany) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Bug in pdftex.def with neg angles X-VMS-To: smtp%"pdftex@tug.org" X-VMS-Cc: DALY Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk When trying to include graphics (pdf file from eps via GhostScript) using the graphicx package with pdftex option, I needed to rotate by -90 deg and the result was an empty box. I tracked the problem to the pdftex.def file. I am using Sebastian's privately distributed version 1998/06/18 v0.02h but the problem exists with the version 1998/06/04 v0.02g too. With angle=-90, I located the error to the following pdf output stream 171.65 839.89 395.98 1.99 re f 171.65 416.58 1.99 423.32 re f 1 0 0 1 173.64 839.89 cm q 0 -1 --1 0 0 0 cm ^^ This is clearly meant to be a translation matrix, which for -90 deg should be 0 -1 1 0 0 0 The double minus sign does not turn into a positive one when Acrobat reads this! In pdftex.def, there is the code \def\Grot@start{% \pdfliteral{ q \Grot@cos\space\Grot@sin\space-\Grot@sin\space\Grot@cos\space 0 0 cm}% \wd\z@\z@} So when \Grot@sin is negative, in this case -1, you get --1 printed. My solution is to test for a minus sign in \Grot@sin, and if so remove it, and if not, add it, in order to make up -\Grot@sin here stored in \@tempb. \def\split@minus#1#2@@{\def\@tempa{#1}% \if\@tempa-\def\@tempb{#2}\else\def\@tempb{-#1#2}\fi} \def\Grot@start{% \expandafter\split@minus\Grot@sin @@% \pdfliteral{ q \Grot@cos\space\Grot@sin\space\@tempb\space\Grot@cos\space 0 0 cm}% \wd\z@\z@} It took much experimentation to get this. \Grot@sin is really text, not a number, but that text can be a decimal number if angle=-45, say. So I cannot simply test \ifnum\Grot@sin<\z@ or \ifdim\Grot@sin<\z@. I have to deal with text. This code works. Regards, Patrick ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Patrick W. Daly Tel. [+49] 5556-979-279 Max-Planck-Institut fuer Aeronomie Fax. [+49] 5556-979-240 Max-Planck-Str. 2 D-37191 Katlenburg-Lindau Internet: daly@linmpi.mpg.de Germany ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Aug 25 06:15:26 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA02175 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 06:15:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA19477 for pdftex-list; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:07:31 -0400 Received: from nag.co.uk (andover.nag.co.uk [192.156.217.113]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA19474 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:07:25 -0400 Received: (from davidc@localhost) by nag.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA05136; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 13:10:09 +0100 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 13:10:09 +0100 Message-Id: <199808251210.NAA05136@nag.co.uk> From: David Carlisle To: daly@linpwd.mpae.gwdg.de CC: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <98082513403578@linpwd.mpae.gwdg.de> (daly@linpwd.mpae.gwdg.de) Subject: Re: Bug in pdftex.def with neg angles References: <98082513403578@linpwd.mpae.gwdg.de> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk q 0 -1 --1 0 0 0 cm ^^ Ah. Will fix, thanks. David From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Aug 25 06:19:56 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA02320 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 06:19:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA19534 for pdftex-list; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:13:50 -0400 Received: from nag.co.uk (andover.nag.co.uk [192.156.217.113]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA19531 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:13:48 -0400 Received: (from davidc@localhost) by nag.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA05150; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 13:16:45 +0100 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 13:16:45 +0100 Message-Id: <199808251216.NAA05150@nag.co.uk> From: David Carlisle To: daly@linpwd.mpae.gwdg.de CC: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <98082513403578@linpwd.mpae.gwdg.de> (daly@linpwd.mpae.gwdg.de) Subject: Re: Bug in pdftex.def with neg angles References: <98082513403578@linpwd.mpae.gwdg.de> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Can't I just change -\Grot@sin \if-\Grot@sin\else-\Grot@sin\fi ? David From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Aug 25 07:14:39 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03815 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 07:14:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA19935 for pdftex-list; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:59:09 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA19932 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:59:00 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@SnowWhite.inet.cz [194.196.192.9]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA11746 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:54:45 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA19811; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:57:50 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: pdfTeX-FAQ v0.04 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.117 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicitised e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicitised e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 25 Aug 1998 14:57:33 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 488 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk % This is the pdfTeX FAQ. \title{ The pdfTeX FAQ } \version{ v0.04 } \author{ Pavel Jan\'{\i}k jr. } \lastmodification{ Tue Aug 25 13:09:47 CEST 1998 } \abstract{ This document is a preliminary version of pdfTeX's frequently asked questions (FAQ) and answers. If you can contribute to this document, please mail to Pavel Jan\'{\i}k jr. or to pdfTeX's mailing list . This document is in TeX syntax. The character set is ISO-8859-2. } \copyright{ This document is freely distributable. } \section{General}{ General } \subsection{TeX_and_PDF}{ TeX and PDF } \question{What_is_pdfTeX}{ What is pdfTeX? }{ pdfTeX is a variant of well known typesetting program of prof. Donald E. Knuth -- TeX. Output of Knuth's TeX is a file in DVI format. The difference between TeX and pdfTeX is that pdfTeX directly generates PDF. There is also the [FIXME: is it?] program ``dvipdf'', which can generate PDF file from TeX output. Its author is Sergey Lesenko and dvipdf can be found at [FIXME: where?]. WARNING: pdfTeX is alpha software! } \question{What_is_TeX}{ What is TeX? }{ From `TeX -- The Program' by Donald E. Knuth: ``This is TeX, a document compiler intended to produce typesetting of high quality''. TeX is a batch oriented typesetting system. When we talk about TeX we mean the macro programming language as well as the program that interprets and executed this language. } \question{What_is_PDF}{ What is PDF? }{ This question is answered in Portable Document Format Reference Manual (http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/devrelations/PDFS/TN/PDFSPEC.PDF) on page 27. It can not be reproduced here because of the strange copyright reasons. Think of PDF as PostScript without programming constructs. A PDF file consists of graphical objects tight together in such a way that fast viewing is possible and incremental updates become possible. } \question{How_can_I_view_a_PDF_file}{ How can I view a PDF file? }{ [FIXME: some words about Acrobat Reader + its URL, about Xpdf and other PDF vievers] } \subsection{Authors}{ Authors } \question{Who_is_the_author_of_pdfTeX}{ Who is the author of pdfTeX? }{ Primary author of pdfTeX is Han The Thanh . [FIXME: in pdftex.ch there is also Petr Sojka and the current head (rector) of Masaryk's University - prof. Ji\v{r}\'{\i} Zlatu\v{s}ka.] } \section{Information}{ Information } \question{Where_can_I_find_pdfTeX}{ Where can I find pdfTeX? }{ [FIXME: ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/{janik,thanh}, daily mirror on ftp://ftp.inet.cz/pub/Mirrors/pdfTeX}] } \question{What_is_the_latest_version}{ What is the latest version? }{ The latest version of pdfTeX is pdfTeX-0.12n. This is the latest version of pdfTeX approved by Han The Thanh (for now). After this version the primary author (Han The Thanh) leaved Czech Republic and is away for about three or four months. When he comes back, he will continue on the pdfTeX's development. In the time Thanh is away the pdfTeX's maintainer is Pavel Jan\'{\i}k ml (he is also student of Masaryk's University). He releases bug-fixes to pdfTeX-0.12n as versions pdfTeX-0.12o-?, where `?' is a small number. The latest bug-fix release is pdfTeX-0.12o-6. } \question{Where_can_I_find_some_docs_about_pdfTeX}{ Where can I find some docs about pdfTeX? }{ An index for things pdfTeX related can be found at: http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/. In it you will find: The pdfTeX manual is in PDF format at http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftexman.pdf and HTML format at http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftexman.html The pdfTeX mailing list archives: http://tug.org/ListsArchives/pdftex/threads.html [FIXME: pdfTeX FAQ and the best documentation is in the source files...] } \question{Is_there_any_mailing_list_about_pdfTeX}{ Is there any mailing list about pdfTeX? }{ Yes, to subscribe send mail to mailto:majordomo@tug.org, and put the line: subscribe pdftex username@hostname in the body of the message, where username@hostname is your complete email address. } \question{Where_can_I_find_archive_of_pdfTeX_mailing_list}{ Where can I find archive of pdfTeX mailing list? }{ An ftp site of the mailing list, arranged chronologicaly can be found at: ftp://ftp.tug.org/mail-archives/pdftex/ Daily mirror is also at ftp://ftp.inet.cz/pub/Mirrors/pdfTeX-MailArchive/ } \question{How_to_get_new_versions_of_this_FAQ}{ How to get new versions of this FAQ? }{ This document is periodically posted to pdfTeX's mailing list. } \section{Installation}{ Installation } % some subsections for various OSes here \question{How_do_I_install_latest_version_of_pdfTeX}{ How do I install latest version of pdfTeX? }{ [FIXME: see script Install and comment it!, add some URLS of web-*, web2c-*, ...] } \question{How_do_I_use_pdflatex}{ How do I use pdflatex (how to generate pdflatex.fmt)? }{ } \question{Why_use_pdflatex}{ Why use pdflatex vs (??? i.e. latex2html)? }{ } \question{How_do_I_compress_my_PDF_files}{ My do I compress my PDF files? }{ pdfTeX can compress its output. By default pdfTeX doesn't compress it's output though (exactly, it depends on your configuration). You can specify one of ten levels of compression: from 0 to 9 in the source file by tag \pdfcompresslevel: \pdfcompresslevel9 or in the configuration file (pdftex.cfg): compress_level 9 0 means no compression and 9 is the best (and the slowest) compression. } \question{What_can_I_do_with_this_pdftex.cfg_file}{ What can I do with this pdftex.cfg file? }{ } \section{Graphics}{ Graphics } \subsection{Graphics_in_general}{ Graphics in general } \question{How_do_I_include_pictures_in_pdfTeX}{ How do I include pictures in pdfTeX? }{ } \question{How_do_I_include_pictures_in_pdfLaTeX?} How do I include pictures in pdfLaTeX? }{ To include pictures in JPEG, PDF, PNG or MetaPost output format (.mps) use the following: %% In the preamble add \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} %% In the main document, immediately after \begin{document} \DeclareGraphicsExtensions{.jpg,.pdf,.mps,.png} %% To include a graphics file \includegraphics{filename_to_include} The package will then search for the filename with the above extensions if one isn't provided. With this package the image can also be scaled or cropped. This uses D. Carlisle's ``graphics'' package and is available on CTAN at /macros/latex/packages/graphics } \subsection{Vector_Formats}{ Vector Formats } \question{How_do_I_include_PDF_pictures}{ How do I include PDF pictures? }{ } \question{How_do_I_convert_an_EPS_figure_to_PDF}{ How do I convert an EPS figure to PDF? }{ You can use epstopdf (a Perl script which uses Ghostscript for conversion) at http://tug.org/applications/pdftex/epstopdf.pl or Distiller to do the work for you. [FIXME: add an example here] To use epstopdf, you need Perl 5. Usage of epstopdf is easy: epstopdf.pl myfile.eps converts your eps-graphic file myfile.eps to the file myfile.pdf. Valid options for epstopdf (v2.1) are: [FIXME] Change the line $GS="gs"; in this script to the name of your Ghostscript executable if it is different, e.g. $GS="gswin32c"; on a Win32 system. On some systems it is necessary to invoke Perl explicitly, e.g. with perl epstopdf.pl myfile.eps. } \subsection{Bitmap_Formats}{ Bitmap Formats } \question{How_do_I_include_TIFF_pictures}{ How do I include TIFF pictures? }{ } \subsection{Other_Graphics}{ Other Graphics } \question{How_can_I_use_MetaPost_in_pdfTeX}{ How can I use MetaPost in pdfTeX? }{ } \section{Miscellaneous}{ Miscellaneous } \question{What_is_this_kpathsea?}{ What is this kpathsea? }{ } \subsection{Hyperref}{ Hyperref } \question{What_is_hyperref}{ What is hyperref? }{ } \question{How_can_I_use_it}{ How can I use it? }{ } \question{My_pdftex.cfg_says_to_use_A4...}{ My pdftex.cfg says to use A4 paper, but the document comes out in Letter format. }{ You certainly use hyperref. This package sets the page dimensions according to your settings in LaTeX. If you do not specify ``a4paper'' in your options to \documentclass, it assumes Letter paper and overrides the entries in your pdftex.cfg file. } \question{I_get_the_message...}{ I get the message: ``Warning (ext1): destination with the same identifier already exists!'' }{ You get this message if you use hyperref and have some page numbers more than once, e.g. when re-starting page numbering with each chapter or having an appendix. Circumvent this with \usepackage[pdftex,plainpages=false]{hyperref} or put plainpages=false into your hyperref.cfg. } \subsection{ConTeXt}{ ConTeXt } \question{What_is_ConTeXt}{ What is ConTeXt? }{ ConTeXt is a full featured macro package that has build in support for pdfTeX. More information can be found at http://www.ntg.nl/context (manuals, source code, examples). } \question{How_can_I_use_ConTeXt}{ How can I use ConTeXt? }{ } \section{Fonts_in_pdfTeX}{ Fonts in pdfTeX } \subsection{Fonts_in_general}{ Fonts in general } \question{What_kind_of_fonts_can_I_use}{ What kind of fonts can I use? }{ } \subsection{Type1_fonts}{ Type1 fonts } \question{How_do_I_use_Type1_fonts}{ How do I use Type1 fonts? }{ } \question{How_do_I_generate_TFM_files_for_Type1_fonts}{ How do I generate TFM files for Type1 fonts? }{ } \subsection{TrueType_fonts}{ TrueType fonts } \question{How_do_I_use_TrueType_fonts}{ How do I use TrueType fonts? }{ } \question{How_do_I_generate_TFM_files_for_TrueType_fonts} How do I generate TFM files for TrueType fonts? }{ } \subsection{pk_fonts}{ pk fonts } \question{How_do_I_use_pk_fonts}{ How do I use pk fonts? }{ } \question{Why_does_Acrobat_Reader_display_pk_fonts_so_bad}{ Why does Acrobat Reader display pk fonts so bad? }{ } \contributors{ Pavel Jan\'{\i}k jr. Jody Klymak Colin Marquardt David Waller } -- Pavel Janík ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Aug 26 11:53:57 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05549 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 11:53:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA21570 for pdftex-list; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 13:45:25 -0400 Received: from lhe.physics.lsa.umich.edu (sanders@lhe.physics.lsa.umich.edu [141.211.96.32]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA21567 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 13:45:24 -0400 Received: (from sanders@localhost) by lhe.physics.lsa.umich.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA31895 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 13:42:37 -0400 Message-ID: <19980826134236.D31696@umich.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 13:42:36 -0400 From: sanders@umich.edu To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Dvi output from pdflatex Reply-To: Michael Sanders Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk The documentation seems to say that \pdfoutput=0 should cause pdflatex to generate dvi (rather than pdf) In my setup, This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-0.12o-6 (Web2C 7.2) (format=pdflatex 1998.8.20) I must use \pdfoutput0 Is there something odd about my setup, did I misread the documentation, or is this just the way it is? -- (T.) Michael Sanders internet: sanders@umich.edu Physics Department URL: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~sanders University of Michigan phone: 734/936-0799 Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1120 FAX: 734/764-6843 From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Aug 27 22:04:25 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA21820 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 22:04:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA23761 for pdftex-list; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 23:54:47 -0400 Received: from socks.ubsinc.com (root@socks.ubsinc.com [207.152.88.2]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA23758 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 23:54:45 -0400 Received: from iws-irms.com ([198.179.146.151]) by socks.ubsinc.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA26881 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 22:57:20 -0500 Message-ID: <35E59984.AFFFCE9B@iws-irms.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 12:38:12 -0500 From: Glauber Ribeiro Organization: Integrated Warehousing Solutions http://www.iws-irms.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Open document options Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, if i use hyperref 6.29, my PDF file is created with the options "Resize Window to Initial Page" and "Center Window in Screen" turned on. How can i turn that off, especially the "resize" option? Thanks, Glauber -- Glauber Ribeiro --- IWS mailto:glauber@iws-irms.com http://www.iws-irms.com From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Aug 28 08:10:06 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA03272 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 08:10:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA24495 for pdftex-list; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 10:00:13 -0400 Received: from pdc1.istu.tuwien.ac.at (pdc1.istu.tuwien.ac.at [128.130.82.16]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA24492 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 10:00:09 -0400 Received: from ws7.istu.tuwien.ac.at (unverified [128.130.82.31]) by pdc1.istu.tuwien.ac.at (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 15:58:05 +0200 Received: by ws7.istu.tuwien.ac.at with Microsoft Mail id <01BDD29C.A49DD460@ws7.istu.tuwien.ac.at>; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 15:58:05 +0200 Message-ID: <01BDD29C.A49DD460@ws7.istu.tuwien.ac.at> From: Christian Molzer To: "'pdftex@tug.org'" Subject: HYPERREF Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 15:58:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I'm just expermenting with the hyperref package, but I don't succeed at all. What I've done: In the preamble I've included: \usepackage[dvips]{hyperref} in the document \href{URL}{http://www.istu.tuwien.ac.at/} then I use latex, dvips and distiller to create a pdf-File. Everything seems fine, but when clicking on the url I get the message: There was an error while performing an action. Invalid file specification object. Any ideas. P.S. I use MiKTeX 1.11. Christian MOLZER email: cmolzer@istu.tuwien.ac.at From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Aug 28 09:15:49 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA05130 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 09:15:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA24696 for pdftex-list; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 11:13:21 -0400 Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA24693 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 11:13:19 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.21.141]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA1C09; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 17:13:09 +0200 Message-ID: <35E6C625.113AFAE9@wxs.nl> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 17:00:53 +0200 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Pavel.Janik@inet.cz" , Petr Sojka , Fabrice Popineau CC: pdftex Subject: a real bug Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Try this: \pdfoutput=1 \newbox\dummy \setbox\dummy=\hbox{\pdfform\dummy} \end and pdftex will blow up (I use the windows version). Seems like passing a void box to \pdfform is doing nasty things. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sat Aug 29 15:17:31 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12003 for ; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 15:17:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA25794 for pdftex-list; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 17:10:17 -0400 Received: from esemetz.ese-metz.fr (root@esemetz.ese-metz.fr [193.48.224.212]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA25791 for ; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 17:10:02 -0400 Received: from HAL9000.ese-metz.fr (ppp3.ese-metz.fr [193.48.224.223]) by esemetz.ese-metz.fr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA07801; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 23:11:20 +0200 Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 23:11:20 +0200 Message-Id: <199808292111.XAA07801@esemetz.ese-metz.fr> From: Fabrice POPINEAU To: pragma@pi.net CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: buf in pdftex Reply-to: popineau@esemetz.ese-metz.fr Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I guess that the problem comes from these lines, around line 4490 in pdftex.ch : @ @= begin if get_pdf_output <= 0 then pdf_error("ext1", "\pdfform used when \pdfoutput is not set"); scan_eight_bit_int; incr(form_ptr); pdf_create_obj(obj_type_form, form_ptr); pdf_last_form := obj_ptr; obj_form_ptr(obj_ptr) := pdf_get_mem(pdf_form_struct_size); obj_form_width(obj_ptr) := width(box(cur_val)); obj_form_height(obj_ptr) := height(box(cur_val)); obj_form_depth(obj_ptr) := depth(box(cur_val)); obj_form_box(obj_ptr) := box(cur_val); {save pointer to the box} box(cur_val) := null; end The problem is that box(cur_val) is empty ... but I'm not quite sure of what to do in that case ? Logging an error and exiting ? box(cur_val) seems to be null... Fabrice From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 31 03:31:56 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA20771 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 03:31:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA26857 for pdftex-list; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 05:21:24 -0400 Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA26854 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 05:21:22 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.21.132]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA65FA; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 11:21:16 +0200 Message-ID: <35EA5AC2.B879B326@wxs.nl> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 10:11:46 +0200 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: popineau@esemetz.ese-metz.fr CC: pragma@pi.net, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: buf in pdftex References: <199808292111.XAA07801@esemetz.ese-metz.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Fabrice POPINEAU wrote: > The problem is that box(cur_val) is empty ... but I'm not quite sure > of what to do in that case ? Logging an error and exiting ? > > box(cur_val) seems to be null... Logging an error, making a null object (empty box), and continue running. That way the object pointer is ok and the user is warned to look into it. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 31 05:38:36 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA22937 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 05:38:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA27068 for pdftex-list; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 07:31:48 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA27065 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 07:31:45 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@SnowWhite.inet.cz [194.196.192.9]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA02426; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 13:25:33 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA01491; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 13:28:46 +0200 To: Thomas Esser Cc: whiteja@rvib2.rvib.org.au, teTeX discussion list , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Removing pdftex from tetex (Was: Re: [TETEX 2140] Elementary teTeX questions) References: <199808302010.WAA25446@gauss.informatik.uni-hannover.de> X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.119 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicited e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicited e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 31 Aug 1998 13:28:37 +0200 In-Reply-To: Thomas Esser's message of Sun, 30 Aug 1998 22:10:14 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 27 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk [This letter is a reply to Thomas Esser's mail to tetex list. Thomas wants to remove pdftex from tetex... :-( Reposted to pdftex as well.] From: Thomas Esser Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 22:10:14 +0200 Hi Thomas, > I decided to remove pdftex from teTeX-0.9. That tool (although > extremely useful and excellent software) is under active development and > changes much more frequently than the rest of the software (due to new > features and bugfixes). So, distributing pdftex separately from teTeX > makes much more sense. I'm very disappointed by your decision. I think, that it's not good decision. If you do not have time for maintaining pdftex in tetex I can provide some help - I'm running the latest-greatest tetex and now I'm maintaning pdftex so I hope I can help you with pdftex... So once again - please do not remove pdftex :-( It's very usefull thing and removing it from tetex can affect the amount of tetex (and even pdftex) users. Any comments from pdftex or tetex users? -- Pavel Janík ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 31 06:09:33 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23522 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 06:09:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA27176 for pdftex-list; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:03:38 -0400 Received: from Galois.suse.de (Galois.suse.de [194.112.123.193]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA27173 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:03:36 -0400 Received: from boole.suse.de (Boole.suse.de [192.168.102.7]) by Galois.suse.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA26491; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 14:01:53 +0200 Received: (from werner@localhost) by boole.suse.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA14171; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 14:01:52 +0200 Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 14:01:52 +0200 From: "Dr. Werner Fink" Message-Id: <199808311201.OAA14171@boole.suse.de> To: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz, te@informatik.uni-hannover.de Subject: Re: [TETEX 2154] Removing pdftex from tetex (Was: Re: [TETEX 2140] Elementary teTeX questions) Cc: pdftex@tug.org, tetex@informatik.uni-hannover.de, whiteja@rvib2.rvib.org.au Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Hi Thomas, > > > I decided to remove pdftex from teTeX-0.9. That tool (although > > extremely useful and excellent software) is under active development and > > changes much more frequently than the rest of the software (due to new > > features and bugfixes). So, distributing pdftex separately from teTeX > > makes much more sense. > > I'm very disappointed by your decision. I think, that it's not good > decision. If you do not have time for maintaining pdftex in tetex I > can provide some help - I'm running the latest-greatest tetex and now > I'm maintaning pdftex so I hope I can help you with pdftex... So once > again - please do not remove pdftex :-( It's very usefull thing and > removing it from tetex can affect the amount of tetex (and even > pdftex) users. > > Any comments from pdftex or tetex users? Yep, read the license for CONTeXT which is used in conjunction with pdftex/pdflatex. Parts of this software isn't free software. The mixing of free and non-free software may a big problem not only for (Linux) distributors but also for normal users. Werner From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 31 06:21:24 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23764 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 06:21:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA27264 for pdftex-list; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:16:30 -0400 Received: from wotan.desy.de (mail.desy.de [131.169.194.42]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA27261 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:16:25 -0400 Received: from h1do1.desy.de (h1do1.desy.de [131.169.141.45]) by wotan.desy.de (8.8.5/8.7.3R) with ESMTP id OAA13936; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 14:16:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (pks@localhost) by h1do1.desy.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA43330; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 14:16:15 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: h1do1.desy.de: pks owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 14:16:14 +0200 (METDST) From: Peter-Klaus Schilling Reply-To: Peter-Klaus Schilling To: "Pavel Janik ml." cc: Thomas Esser , whiteja@rvib2.rvib.org.au, teTeX discussion list , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [TETEX 2154] Removing pdftex from tetex (Was: Re: [TETEX 2140] Elementary teTeX questions) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by tug.org id IAA27262 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Pavel Janik ml. wrote: > > [This letter is a reply to Thomas Esser's mail to tetex list. Thomas > wants to remove pdftex from tetex... :-( Reposted to pdftex as well.] > > From: Thomas Esser > Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 22:10:14 +0200 > > Hi Thomas, > > > I decided to remove pdftex from teTeX-0.9. That tool (although > > extremely useful and excellent software) is under active development and > > changes much more frequently than the rest of the software (due to new > > features and bugfixes). So, distributing pdftex separately from teTeX > > makes much more sense. > > I'm very disappointed by your decision. I think, that it's not good > decision. If you do not have time for maintaining pdftex in tetex I > can provide some help - I'm running the latest-greatest tetex and now > I'm maintaning pdftex so I hope I can help you with pdftex... So once > again - please do not remove pdftex :-( It's very usefull thing and > removing it from tetex can affect the amount of tetex (and even > pdftex) users. > > Any comments from pdftex or tetex users? > -- > Pavel Janík ml. > Pavel.Janik@inet.cz > I agree and would like to urge Thomas to keep pdftex in the tetex distribution. Please do not remove pdftex! Regards, Peter Schilling -------------------------------------------------- e-mail: peter-klaus.schilling@desy.de address: Peter K. Schilling DESY Dpt. ZDV-ASG Notkestr. 85 - D-22607 Hamburg - Germany phone: +49 40 89983638 fax: +49 40 89943638 -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 31 06:38:19 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA24075 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 06:38:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA27406 for pdftex-list; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:34:15 -0400 Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA27403 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:34:13 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.21.76]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA48E; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 14:33:49 +0200 Message-ID: <35EA99B8.9A42F44A@wxs.nl> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 14:40:24 +0200 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Pavel Janik ml." CC: Thomas Esser , whiteja@rvib2.rvib.org.au, teTeX discussion list , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Removing pdftex from tetex (Was: Re: [TETEX 2140] Elementary teTeX questions) References: <199808302010.WAA25446@gauss.informatik.uni-hannover.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Pavel Janik ml. wrote: > > I decided to remove pdftex from teTeX-0.9. That tool (although > > extremely useful and excellent software) is under active development and > > changes much more frequently than the rest of the software (due to new > > features and bugfixes). So, distributing pdftex separately from teTeX > > makes much more sense. Currently pdftex is rather stable. The dvi output mode has no problems at all, and as far as I know, the most recent pdf backend bug fixes were either cosmetic or concern extreme situations, ones that at this moment most users will never encounter. These bugs of course need(ed) to be solved, but are no reason for not adding pdftex to the tetex distribution. I'm not aware of (incompatible) features added the last few month, apart >From larger objects tables and better tiff support. In this respect, the macro packages that deal with pdf specifics are more subject to change/improvements that the binary itself. > again - please do not remove pdftex :-( It's very usefull thing and > removing it from tetex can affect the amount of tetex (and even > pdftex) users. Indeed. By adding pdftex is even makes sense no longer to use the non pdftex ones. Even better, in a few month there will be an epdftex, which means that in one binary we have the best of all: tex+etex+pdftex. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 31 06:53:12 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA24341 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 06:53:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA27539 for pdftex-list; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:49:52 -0400 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA27536 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:49:50 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.21.76]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA173A; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 14:49:17 +0200 Message-ID: <35EA9D57.11F89930@wxs.nl> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 14:55:51 +0200 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Dr. Werner Fink" CC: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz, te@informatik.uni-hannover.de, pdftex@tug.org, tetex@informatik.uni-hannover.de, whiteja@rvib2.rvib.org.au Subject: Re: [TETEX 2154] Removing pdftex from tetex (Was: Re: [TETEX 2140] Elementary teTeX questions) References: <199808311201.OAA14171@boole.suse.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Dr. Werner Fink wrote: > Yep, read the license for CONTeXT which is used in conjunction > with pdftex/pdflatex. Parts of this software isn't free software. Only in cunjunction with pdftex, because context is something independant from latex. The licence explictly states that it is free for those that are no direct competitors of us as well as those that produce huge amount of pages using context. We have to make sure that we can continue the development. BTW, I discussed these matters with Thomas at Eurotex. Also, when you carefully read the latex docs, there is mentioning of expected contributions to the development, probably to a further extend that we do. As soon as we can make a decent living using context, we don't care at all who uses it to what extend, but for the moment everything concerning context and going public probably has cost us more than most organizations will consider/would have considered reasonable. That's why fo rth emoment large scale users are treated differently with respect to support etc. BTW, academic instutitions and individuals are not likely to run into any licence problems at all. Furthermore, there are some modules to context that are private (like the publishing on demand ones and some layout style definitions) but these are not part of the distribution at all and no user will ever notice that they are not there. Even better: there is about 4 times as much functionality present in the standard distribution than described in the manuals, so it will take some time before users run out of functionality. > The mixing of free and non-free software may a big problem > not only for (Linux) distributors but also for normal users. I don't see any real problems. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 31 07:27:29 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA25050 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 07:27:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA27785 for pdftex-list; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 09:23:50 -0400 Received: from wugate.wustl.edu (wugate.wustl.edu [128.252.120.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA27781 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 09:23:47 -0400 Received: from hubert.wuh.wustl.edu (ats@nb22-pool-13.wustl.edu [128.252.113.13]) by wugate.wustl.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA21540; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:22:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from ats@localhost) by hubert.wuh.wustl.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA29846; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:22:40 -0500 To: Hans Hagen Cc: "Dr. Werner Fink" , Pavel.Janik@inet.cz, te@informatik.uni-hannover.de, pdftex@tug.org, tetex@informatik.uni-hannover.de, whiteja@rvib2.rvib.org.au Subject: Re: Removing pdftex from tetex (Was: Re: [TETEX 2140] Elementary teTeX questions) References: <199808311201.OAA14171@boole.suse.de> <35EA9D57.11F89930@wxs.nl> From: Alan Shutko Date: 31 Aug 1998 08:22:39 -0500 In-Reply-To: Hans Hagen's message of "Mon, 31 Aug 1998 14:55:51 +0200" Message-ID: Lines: 12 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.3 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "H" == Hans Hagen writes: >> The mixing of free and non-free software may a big problem not only >> for (Linux) distributors but also for normal users. H> I don't see any real problems. Debian, for instance, will not bundle non-free software. Which could mean that they couldn't bundle teTeX 0.9. That would be bad. -- Alan Shutko - By consent of the corrupted Be cautious in your daily affairs. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 31 08:22:04 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA26306 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:22:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA27999 for pdftex-list; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 10:14:46 -0400 Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (mmdf@salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA27996 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 10:14:44 -0400 Received: from boole.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 31 Aug 98 15:14:35 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: [TETEX 2154] Removing pdftex from tetex (Was: Re: [TETEX 2140] Elementary teTeX questions) In-Reply-To: <199808311201.OAA14171@boole.suse.de> from "Dr. Werner Fink" at "Aug 31, 98 02:01:52 pm" To: "Dr. Werner Fink" Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:14:34 +0100 (BST) From: Timothy Murphy Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <9808311514.aa07798@boole.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > > > I decided to remove pdftex from teTeX-0.9. > > > > I'm very disappointed by your decision. I agree. It is a sure recipe for chaos if teTeX and pdftex go down separate routes. > > Any comments from pdftex or tetex users? > > Yep, read the license for CONTeXT which is used in conjunction > with pdftex/pdflatex. Parts of this software isn't free software. I don't see the relevance of this. CONTeXT is not part of pdftex, as far as I know. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 31 08:24:38 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA26376 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:24:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA28026 for pdftex-list; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 10:21:35 -0400 Received: from mail.tyndale.com (mail.tyndale.com [208.203.193.2]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA28023 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 10:21:33 -0400 Received: from Connect2 Message Router by mail.tyndale.com via Connect2-SMTP 4.32; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 09:29:24 -0500 Message-ID: <5291EA3501082600@mail.tyndale.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 9:28:47 -0400 From: "Harrison, Shawn" Organization: Tyndale House Publishers To: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz ("Pavel Janik ml.") Cc: pdftex@tug.org, te@informatik.uni-hannover.de Subject: Re: Removing pdftex from tetex (Was: Re: [TETEX 2140] Elementar Importance: Normal X-SMF-Hop-Count: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.32 MHS/SMF to SMTP Gateway Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I'll comment on the removal of pdfTeX from teTeX. Even though the changes to pdfTeX are more frequent, it is still useful for users to *have it installed* on their system automatically when they install teTeX. This will give newbies (like me) the opportunity to learn about pdfTeX's existence and functionality, which would not otherwise happen, necessarily. Also, even though pdfTeX is in active development (not unlike other critical and/or useful pieces of the Linux OS), the user can still *use* a given release without constant upgrades (i.e., users don't *have to* actively follow the development of pdfTeX). In short, it makes sense to keep pdfTeX as part of the teTeX distribution, because pdfTeX helps complete the TeX typesetting system in a very significant way. Including pdfTeX in the teTeX distribution will give users a place to start, from which they can upgrade as they see fit. ============================ Shawn Harrison Associate Editor Tyndale House Publishers shawn_harrison@tyndale.com ============================ "The legal system is not fun, but it *is* an improvement over duals and feuds." --Harvey Harrison, attorney From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 31 10:15:06 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01221 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 10:15:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA28370 for pdftex-list; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:10:06 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA28367 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:10:02 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@SnowWhite.inet.cz [194.196.192.9]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA32644; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 18:05:34 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA02506; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 18:08:46 +0200 To: Hans Hagen Cc: popineau@esemetz.ese-metz.fr, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: buf in pdftex References: <199808292111.XAA07801@esemetz.ese-metz.fr> <35EA5AC2.B879B326@wxs.nl> X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.117 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicited e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicited e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 31 Aug 1998 18:08:33 +0200 In-Reply-To: Hans Hagen's message of Mon, 31 Aug 1998 10:11:46 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 22 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: Hans Hagen Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 10:11:46 +0200 Hi, > > The problem is that box(cur_val) is empty ... but I'm not quite sure > > of what to do in that case ? Logging an error and exiting ? > > > > box(cur_val) seems to be null... > > Logging an error, making a null object (empty box), and continue > running. That way the object pointer is ok and the user is warned to > look into it. it's probably ok, but what about doing something like TeX does when encounters overfull hbox (a big black at the end of line ;-)? It's only an idea - I agree with Hans. Fabrice - can you look at it (I think that it's only a matter of some if box(cur_val) == null somewhere) and test? -- Pavel Janík ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 31 10:20:24 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01379 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 10:20:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA28409 for pdftex-list; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:17:45 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA28406 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:17:42 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@SnowWhite.inet.cz [194.196.192.9]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA00288 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 18:13:20 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA02524; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 18:16:32 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: pdftex with no C++ compiler X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.117 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicited e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicited e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 31 Aug 1998 18:16:23 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 22 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, when corresponding with Thomas Esser we realised, that pdftex is not compilable without C++ compiler but I (and Thomas of course) think that pdftex should be build without PDF inclusion when no C++ support. What do you think? My idea is to test if C++ compiler is present (and can compile C++ sources of course). If it is not present we should not die (as we do now - see configure in xpdf dir) but only display WARNING: PDF inclusion (and more) will not be supported and compile the rest of C and WEB sources. Any volunteer for doing this (I will be away by the end of the week and there is to much to finish :-( If nobody wants to do this, I will do it later). -- Pavel Janík ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Aug 31 10:52:01 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02246 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 10:52:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA28644 for pdftex-list; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:49:00 -0400 Received: from cnri.reston.va.us (ns.CNRI.Reston.VA.US [132.151.1.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA28640 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:48:59 -0400 Received: from weyr.cnri.reston.va.us (weyr [132.151.1.174]) by cnri.reston.va.us (8.8.5/8.8.7a) with SMTP id MAA04380; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:47:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by weyr.cnri.reston.va.us (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA19143; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:47:46 -0400 From: "Fred L. Drake" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13802.54193.894047.164904@weyr.cnri.reston.va.us> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:47:45 -0400 (EDT) To: Thomas Esser Cc: teTeX discussion list , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [TETEX 2154] Removing pdftex from tetex (Was: Re: [TETEX 2140] Elementary teTeX questions) In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.53 under 21.0 "Erzgeberg" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: "Fred L. Drake, Jr." X-Organization: Corporation for National Research Initiatives Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Peter-Klaus Schilling writes: > I agree and would like to urge Thomas to keep pdftex in the tetex > distribution. Please do not remove pdftex! I concur as well; the use of pdftex is a major point for me, and having to increase the time I spend administering our TeX installation would be a significant problem here. I need the "easy" PDF output and use the hyperlinking, and would really prefer not to have to re-write my styles to use pdfmark to get the same output. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. Corporation for National Research Initiatives 1895 Preston White Dr. Reston, VA 20191 From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Sep 1 06:54:35 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA29124 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 06:54:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA30344 for pdftex-list; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:42:01 -0400 Received: from arthur.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (martin@arthur.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.8.175]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA30341 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:41:56 -0400 Received: (from martin@localhost) by arthur.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16783; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:34:19 +0200 (MET DST) To: Alan Shutko Cc: Hans Hagen , "Dr. Werner Fink" , Pavel.Janik@inet.cz, te@informatik.uni-hannover.de, pdftex@tug.org, tetex@informatik.uni-hannover.de, whiteja@rvib2.rvib.org.au Subject: Re: Removing pdftex from tetex (Was: Re: [TETEX 2140] Elementary teTeX questions) References: <199808311201.OAA14171@boole.suse.de> <35EA9D57.11F89930@wxs.nl> From: Christoph Martin Date: 01 Sep 1998 14:34:18 +0200 In-Reply-To: Alan Shutko's message of 31 Aug 1998 08:22:39 -0500 Message-ID: Lines: 27 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Alan Shutko writes: > > >>>>> "H" == Hans Hagen writes: > >> The mixing of free and non-free software may a big problem not only > >> for (Linux) distributors but also for normal users. > > H> I don't see any real problems. > > Debian, for instance, will not bundle non-free software. Which could > mean that they couldn't bundle teTeX 0.9. That would be bad. Would be no problem for Debian, as the files would just be moved into a separate package tetex-nonfree. This is the case now with some other parts of tetex. Christoph -- ============================================================================ Christoph Martin, Uni-Mainz, Germany Internet-Mail: Christoph.Martin@Uni-Mainz.DE --------------export-a-crypto-system-sig -RSA-3-lines-PERL------------------ #!/usr/bin/perl -sp0777i; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 07:43:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA30591 for pdftex-list; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:38:42 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA30588 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:38:40 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id OAA21065; hop 0; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:31:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:38:20 +0100 Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:20:44 +0100 Message-ID: <9329-Tue01Sep1998142044+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 8-beta-20 Q); VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: jeffmcarthur@home.com Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Forms In-Reply-To: <35dfc2c9.3620575@mail> References: <35dfc2c9.3620575@mail> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Jeffrey McArthur writes: > I would like to learn to do forms with PDFTeX. Where do I start? > > I would really like to use plain TeX and not LaTeX, so is there a tutorial > on how to create PDF Forms with plain TeX? > DP Story has an excellent set of tutorial material on forms at http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html its for pdfmarks, but you'll need to know most of this anyway. i am afraid you'll have to read the innards of hyperref or context to see how forms and pdftex work sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Sep 1 09:02:36 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01853 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:02:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA30908 for pdftex-list; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 10:53:50 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA30905 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 10:53:47 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id PAA24052; hop 0; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:46:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:53:35 +0100 Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:58:24 +0100 Message-ID: <6373-Tue01Sep1998145824+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 8-beta-20 Q); VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdfTeX-FAQ v0.04 In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Pavel Janik ml. writes: > that pdfTeX directly generates PDF. There is also the > [FIXME: is it?] program ``dvipdf'', which can generate this is probably too confusing, until/if Sergey *does* release dvipdf. better to say "You can also create PDF with Adobe's Distiller program, using a dvi to PostScript program to create PS from \TeX's DVI file. > This question is answered in Portable Document Format Reference > Manual > (http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/devrelations/PDFS/TN/PDFSPEC.PDF) > on page 27. It can not be reproduced here because of the strange > copyright reasons. what is strange about them? s From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Sep 1 09:02:42 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01861 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:02:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA30904 for pdftex-list; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 10:53:46 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA30900 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 10:53:45 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id PAA24055; hop 0; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:46:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:53:31 +0100 Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:53:54 +0100 Message-ID: <816-Tue01Sep1998145354+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 8-beta-20 Q) From: Sebastian Rahtz To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: administrivia Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I am now actively controlling this list again. I am up to date with requests to be added or deleted. Just a note; I have a simple algorithm - if a mail address gives me reject messages more than a couple of times (enough to irritate me), I delete it from the list. Sorry, I don't have the time to track them down in any systematic fashion Sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Sep 1 10:24:36 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA04319 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 10:24:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA31570 for pdftex-list; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:21:18 -0400 Received: from relay14.jaring.my (relay14.jaring.my [192.228.128.125]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA31567 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:21:15 -0400 Received: from desmond (j19.ptl33.jaring.my [161.142.114.93]) by relay14.jaring.my (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA22756 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 00:21:02 +0800 (MYT) Message-ID: <000701bdd5c5$1633a980$5d728ea1@desmond> Reply-To: "lemon" From: "lemon" To: Subject: confuse of,,,,,,, Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 00:25:04 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BDD608.21B90D20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BDD608.21B90D20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear sirs/madams, i would like to appreciate if u can tell me the following question that = i have give out? can u tell me the comparison of using *.txt, *.pdf, *.wri, *.rtf and *.doc i quite confuse and this five extension filenames is there any difference due to their size, speed and so on i hope to hear from you soon thank you, from desmond=20 student ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BDD608.21B90D20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BDD608.21B90D20-- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Sep 1 11:02:04 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05256 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:02:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA31716 for pdftex-list; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:54:11 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA31713 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:54:04 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@SnowWhite.inet.cz [194.196.192.9]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA09998; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 18:49:39 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA02112; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 18:52:49 +0200 To: Sebastian Rahtz CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: pdfTeX-FAQ v0.05 References: <6373-Tue01Sep1998145824+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.120pre2 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicited e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicited e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 01 Sep 1998 18:52:39 +0200 In-Reply-To: Sebastian Rahtz's message of Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:58:24 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 505 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: Sebastian Rahtz Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:58:24 +0100 Hi, > this is probably too confusing, until/if Sergey *does* release > dvipdf. better to say "You can also create PDF with Adobe's Distiller > program, using a dvi to PostScript program to create PS from \TeX's DVI > file. changed. > what is strange about them? Please read it carefully - I can not even copy (without modification) some part of this specs:-( -- Pavel Janík ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz --- cut here --- % This is the pdfTeX FAQ. \title{ The pdfTeX FAQ } \version{ v0.05 } \author{ Pavel Jan\'{\i}k jr. } \lastmodification{ Tue Sep 1 18:49:53 CEST 1998 } \abstract{ This document is a preliminary version of pdfTeX's frequently asked questions (FAQ) and answers. If you can contribute to this document, please mail to Pavel Jan\'{\i}k jr. or to pdfTeX's mailing list . This document is in TeX syntax. The character set is ISO-8859-2. } \copyright{ This document is freely distributable. } \section{General}{ General } \subsection{TeX_and_PDF}{ TeX and PDF } \question{What_is_pdfTeX}{ What is pdfTeX? }{ pdfTeX is a variant of well known typesetting program of prof. Donald E. Knuth -- TeX. Output of Knuth's TeX is a file in DVI format. The difference between TeX and pdfTeX is that pdfTeX directly generates PDF. You can also create PDF with Adobe's Distiller program, using a DVI to PostScript program to create PS from TeX's DVI file. WARNING: pdfTeX is alpha software! } \question{What_is_TeX}{ What is TeX? }{ From `TeX -- The Program' by Donald E. Knuth: ``This is TeX, a document compiler intended to produce typesetting of high quality''. TeX is a batch oriented typesetting system. When we talk about TeX we mean the macro programming language as well as the program that interprets and executed this language. } \question{What_is_PDF}{ What is PDF? }{ This question is answered in Portable Document Format Reference Manual (http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/devrelations/PDFS/TN/PDFSPEC.PDF) on page 27. It can not be reproduced here because of the strange copyright reasons. Think of PDF as PostScript without programming constructs. A PDF file consists of graphical objects tight together in such a way that fast viewing is possible and incremental updates become possible. } \question{How_can_I_view_a_PDF_file}{ How can I view a PDF file? }{ [FIXME: some words about Acrobat Reader + its URL, about Xpdf and other PDF vievers] } \subsection{Authors}{ Authors } \question{Who_is_the_author_of_pdfTeX}{ Who is the author of pdfTeX? }{ Primary author of pdfTeX is Han The Thanh . [FIXME: in pdftex.ch there is also Petr Sojka and the current head (rector) of Masaryk's University - prof. Ji\v{r}\'{\i} Zlatu\v{s}ka.] } \section{Information}{ Information } \question{Where_can_I_find_pdfTeX}{ Where can I find pdfTeX? }{ [FIXME: ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/{janik,thanh}, daily mirror on ftp://ftp.inet.cz/pub/Mirrors/pdfTeX}] } \question{What_is_the_latest_version}{ What is the latest version? }{ The latest version of pdfTeX is pdfTeX-0.12n. This is the latest version of pdfTeX approved by Han The Thanh (for now). After this version the primary author (Han The Thanh) leaved Czech Republic and is away for about three or four months. When he comes back, he will continue on the pdfTeX's development. In the time Thanh is away the pdfTeX's maintainer is Pavel Jan\'{\i}k ml (he is also student of Masaryk's University). He releases bug-fixes to pdfTeX-0.12n as versions pdfTeX-0.12o-?, where `?' is a small number. The latest bug-fix release is pdfTeX-0.12o-6. } \question{Where_can_I_find_some_docs_about_pdfTeX}{ Where can I find some docs about pdfTeX? }{ An index for things pdfTeX related can be found at: http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/. In it you will find: The pdfTeX manual is in PDF format at http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftexman.pdf and HTML format at http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftexman.html The pdfTeX mailing list archives: http://tug.org/ListsArchives/pdftex/threads.html [FIXME: pdfTeX FAQ and the best documentation is in the source files...] } \question{Is_there_any_mailing_list_about_pdfTeX}{ Is there any mailing list about pdfTeX? }{ Yes, to subscribe send mail to mailto:majordomo@tug.org, and put the line: subscribe pdftex username@hostname in the body of the message, where username@hostname is your complete email address. } \question{Where_can_I_find_archive_of_pdfTeX_mailing_list}{ Where can I find archive of pdfTeX mailing list? }{ An ftp site of the mailing list, arranged chronologicaly can be found at: ftp://ftp.tug.org/mail-archives/pdftex/ Daily mirror is also at ftp://ftp.inet.cz/pub/Mirrors/pdfTeX-MailArchive/ } \question{How_to_get_new_versions_of_this_FAQ}{ How to get new versions of this FAQ? }{ This document is periodically posted to pdfTeX's mailing list. } \section{Installation}{ Installation } % some subsections for various OSes here \question{How_do_I_install_latest_version_of_pdfTeX}{ How do I install latest version of pdfTeX? }{ [FIXME: see script Install and comment it!, add some URLS of web-*, web2c-*, ...] } \question{How_do_I_use_pdflatex}{ How do I use pdflatex (how to generate pdflatex.fmt)? }{ } \question{Why_use_pdflatex}{ Why use pdflatex vs (??? i.e. latex2html)? }{ } \question{How_do_I_compress_my_PDF_files}{ My do I compress my PDF files? }{ pdfTeX can compress its output. By default pdfTeX doesn't compress it's output though (exactly, it depends on your configuration). You can specify one of ten levels of compression: from 0 to 9 in the source file by tag \pdfcompresslevel: \pdfcompresslevel9 or in the configuration file (pdftex.cfg): compress_level 9 0 means no compression and 9 is the best (and the slowest) compression. } \question{What_can_I_do_with_this_pdftex.cfg_file}{ What can I do with this pdftex.cfg file? }{ } \section{Graphics}{ Graphics } \subsection{Graphics_in_general}{ Graphics in general } \question{How_do_I_include_pictures_in_pdfTeX}{ How do I include pictures in pdfTeX? }{ } \question{How_do_I_include_pictures_in_pdfLaTeX?} How do I include pictures in pdfLaTeX? }{ To include pictures in JPEG, PDF, PNG or MetaPost output format (.mps) use the following: %% In the preamble add \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} %% In the main document, immediately after \begin{document} \DeclareGraphicsExtensions{.jpg,.pdf,.mps,.png} %% To include a graphics file \includegraphics{filename_to_include} The package will then search for the filename with the above extensions if one isn't provided. With this package the image can also be scaled or cropped. This uses D. Carlisle's ``graphics'' package and is available on CTAN at /macros/latex/packages/graphics } \subsection{Vector_Formats}{ Vector Formats } \question{How_do_I_include_PDF_pictures}{ How do I include PDF pictures? }{ } \question{How_do_I_convert_an_EPS_figure_to_PDF}{ How do I convert an EPS figure to PDF? }{ You can use epstopdf (a Perl script which uses Ghostscript for conversion) at http://tug.org/applications/pdftex/epstopdf.pl or Distiller to do the work for you. [FIXME: add an example here] To use epstopdf, you need Perl 5. Usage of epstopdf is easy: epstopdf.pl myfile.eps converts your eps-graphic file myfile.eps to the file myfile.pdf. Valid options for epstopdf (v2.1) are: [FIXME] Change the line $GS="gs"; in this script to the name of your Ghostscript executable if it is different, e.g. $GS="gswin32c"; on a Win32 system. On some systems it is necessary to invoke Perl explicitly, e.g. with perl epstopdf.pl myfile.eps. } \subsection{Bitmap_Formats}{ Bitmap Formats } \question{How_do_I_include_TIFF_pictures}{ How do I include TIFF pictures? }{ } \subsection{Other_Graphics}{ Other Graphics } \question{How_can_I_use_MetaPost_in_pdfTeX}{ How can I use MetaPost in pdfTeX? }{ } \section{Miscellaneous}{ Miscellaneous } \question{What_is_this_kpathsea?}{ What is this kpathsea? }{ } \subsection{Hyperref}{ Hyperref } \question{What_is_hyperref}{ What is hyperref? }{ } \question{How_can_I_use_it}{ How can I use it? }{ } \question{My_pdftex.cfg_says_to_use_A4...}{ My pdftex.cfg says to use A4 paper, but the document comes out in Letter format. }{ You certainly use hyperref. This package sets the page dimensions according to your settings in LaTeX. If you do not specify ``a4paper'' in your options to \documentclass, it assumes Letter paper and overrides the entries in your pdftex.cfg file. } \question{I_get_the_message...}{ I get the message: ``Warning (ext1): destination with the same identifier already exists!'' }{ You get this message if you use hyperref and have some page numbers more than once, e.g. when re-starting page numbering with each chapter or having an appendix. Circumvent this with \usepackage[pdftex,plainpages=false]{hyperref} or put plainpages=false into your hyperref.cfg. } \subsection{ConTeXt}{ ConTeXt } \question{What_is_ConTeXt}{ What is ConTeXt? }{ ConTeXt is a full featured macro package that has build in support for pdfTeX. More information can be found at http://www.ntg.nl/context (manuals, source code, examples). } \question{How_can_I_use_ConTeXt}{ How can I use ConTeXt? }{ } \section{Fonts_in_pdfTeX}{ Fonts in pdfTeX } \subsection{Fonts_in_general}{ Fonts in general } \question{What_kind_of_fonts_can_I_use}{ What kind of fonts can I use? }{ } \subsection{Type1_fonts}{ Type1 fonts } \question{How_do_I_use_Type1_fonts}{ How do I use Type1 fonts? }{ } \question{How_do_I_generate_TFM_files_for_Type1_fonts}{ How do I generate TFM files for Type1 fonts? }{ } \subsection{TrueType_fonts}{ TrueType fonts } \question{How_do_I_use_TrueType_fonts}{ How do I use TrueType fonts? }{ } \question{How_do_I_generate_TFM_files_for_TrueType_fonts} How do I generate TFM files for TrueType fonts? }{ } \subsection{pk_fonts}{ pk fonts } \question{How_do_I_use_pk_fonts}{ How do I use pk fonts? }{ } \question{Why_does_Acrobat_Reader_display_pk_fonts_so_bad}{ Why does Acrobat Reader display pk fonts so bad? }{ } \contributors{ Pavel Jan\'{\i}k jr. Jody Klymak Colin Marquardt David Waller } --- cut here --- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Sep 2 02:41:27 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA26404 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 02:41:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA01294 for pdftex-list; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 04:36:16 -0400 Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA01291 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 04:36:09 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.21.96]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA3D36; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 10:36:01 +0200 Message-ID: <35ECF858.EBCB805C@wxs.nl> Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 09:48:40 +0200 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Pavel Janik ml." CC: popineau@esemetz.ese-metz.fr, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: buf in pdftex References: <199808292111.XAA07801@esemetz.ese-metz.fr> <35EA5AC2.B879B326@wxs.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Pavel Janik ml. wrote: > it's probably ok, but what about doing something like TeX does when > encounters overfull hbox (a big black at the end of line ;-)? It's > only an idea - I agree with Hans. Fabrice - can you look at it (I > think that it's only a matter of some if box(cur_val) == null > somewhere) and test? TeX only puts the rule there when explicitly told to do so, and thereby the problem can still get unnoticed. Furthermore, objects (forms etc) do not always show up in th edocument directly, but can be part of a fill in form field definition, which means that the overfull rule would only show up when accessed as field appearance. Therefore, nulling and issuing a warning is probably the best solution. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Sep 2 02:43:36 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA26432 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 02:43:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA01315 for pdftex-list; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 04:40:45 -0400 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA01312 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 04:40:43 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.21.96]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA551C; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 10:36:35 +0200 Message-ID: <35ECFFE6.63C19100@wxs.nl> Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 10:20:54 +0200 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sebastian Rahtz CC: jeffmcarthur@home.com, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Forms References: <35dfc2c9.3620575@mail> <9329-Tue01Sep1998142044+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > i am afraid you'll have to read the innards of hyperref or context to > see how forms and pdftex work It depends on what you want to do. Simple stand alone ones are not that hard to implement, but I'm afraid that the current context implementation will not give much insight, because I also implement copies/clones/forward referencing etc. Also, forms only work 100% well if you set up the appropriate data structures (although the optimization pass of exchange takes care of that too). Beware of side effects when you use the JavaScrips plug in: after a few weeks hacking I managed to get around some nasty bugs you don't even want to know about. There are also some unexpected 'features' when writing form data. Anyhow, I embedding a few thousand of fields is not that problematic, given one knows the constraints. Maybe if I find some time, I will write them down. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Sep 2 05:44:18 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA28704 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 05:44:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA02194 for pdftex-list; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 07:36:54 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA02191 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 07:36:52 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id MAA19693; hop 0; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 12:30:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 2 Sep 1998 12:36:40 +0100 Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 11:59:10 +0100 Message-ID: <9895-Wed02Sep1998115910+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 8-beta-20 Q); VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: fg@fgbbs.iaf.nl Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: epstopdf (again) In-Reply-To: <3c9_9808122200@fgbbs.iaf.nl> References: <3c9_9808122200@fgbbs.iaf.nl> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Frans Goddijn writes: > My problem was that my eps to pdf conversion failed. There were fonts in > the eps file. yes, you need to use Acrobat Distiller to get a better EPS to PDF conversion > To avoid fonts in the eps, I went back to the CorelDraw source, saved the > image as GIF, changed the page size to exactly fitting the image and used > CorelTrace to make an EPS out of that. eh? why not just save as PNG or JPG from Corel Draw? Sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Sep 2 07:25:04 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA00228 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 07:25:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA02948 for pdftex-list; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 09:16:16 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA02945 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 09:16:11 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id OAA22681; hop 0; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:09:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:15:58 +0100 Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 13:33:44 +0100 Message-ID: <21-Wed02Sep1998133344+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 8-beta-20 Q); VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: daly@linpwd.mpae.gwdg.de Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdfview=XYZ -> error with distiller In-Reply-To: <98081907505336@linpwd.mpae.gwdg.de> References: <98081907505336@linpwd.mpae.gwdg.de> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I have amended hyperref (6.34, going on CTAN now) so that the "pdfview" key works anywhere (the .def files now do a \providecommand, not a \def) now, the (sort of) bad news is pdftex supplies default parameters for eg XYZ and FitBH, but pdfmark does not. So if you say \usepackage[dvips, pdfview=FitBH]{hyperref} you would get a nasty result. you need \usepackage[dvips, pdfview=FitBH 999999]{hyperref} or whatever. to allow for easy use, I have made hyperref supply -32768 as a parameter to the view command, if none is given. this is ignored by pdftex so 1. pdfview=XYZ - works in pdftex - fails in dvips, as results in XYZ -32768, which is invalid 2. pdfview=XYZ null null null - works in pdftex (null null null ignored) - works in dvips, as results in XYZ null null null, which is invalid 3. pdfview=FitH - works in pdftex (supplies default) - works in dvips, as results in /FitH -32768, which is valid 4. pdfview=FitH 630 - works in pdftex (630 ignored) - works in dvips, as results in XYZ 630, which is valid (but has odd effect) The _default_ is now always an appropriate XYZ for the driver, so in practice, you'll not often make the mistake of 1. above. The most likely use is pdfview=FitBH so that links jump to a view which wills the window with something rational happy now? Sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Sep 2 15:34:48 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12019 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 15:34:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA05546 for pdftex-list; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 17:29:55 -0400 Received: from halifax.chebucto.ns.CA (halifax.chebucto.ns.ca [129.173.4.205]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA05543 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 17:29:50 -0400 Received: from chebucto.ns.CA ([129.173.4.200]:1055 "EHLO chebucto.ns.CA" ident: "root") by halifax.chebucto.ns.ca with ESMTP id <34310-343>; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:29:16 -0300 Received: from aa056@localhost by chebucto.ns.ca id <90671-160>; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:29:15 -0300 Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:29:07 -0300 (ADT) From: George White To: fg@fgbbs.iaf.nl cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: epstopdf (again) In-Reply-To: <9895-Wed02Sep1998115910+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Many drawing packages (I'm pretty sure Corel Draw is one, but I havn't used it for years) allow you to convert fonts to outline paths. This gives you scalable line art without the problems associated with fonts. On high quality output devices the results should be very close to waht you would get using fonts. For my own work I have hacked ps2ai.ps from Aladdin GS to convert fonts to paths, but if I use the GS interpreter I have to scale the document to large size of the paths will be distorted. This is _not_ necessary using the NeXT DPS interpreter via pft. -- George White Halifax, Nova Scotia On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > Frans Goddijn writes: > > My problem was that my eps to pdf conversion failed. There were fonts in > > the eps file. > yes, you need to use Acrobat Distiller to get a better EPS to PDF > conversion > > > To avoid fonts in the eps, I went back to the CorelDraw source, saved the > > image as GIF, changed the page size to exactly fitting the image and used > > CorelTrace to make an EPS out of that. > eh? why not just save as PNG or JPG from Corel Draw? > > Sebastian > From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Sep 3 08:27:05 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA26132 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 08:27:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA16466 for pdftex-list; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 10:07:29 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA16462 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 10:07:25 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id PAA21816; hop 0; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:00:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:07:11 +0100 Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:01:54 +0100 Message-ID: <1853-Thu03Sep1998150154+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q) From: Sebastian Rahtz To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: pdftex.def Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I have updated http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def; the correction is for negative angles of rotation. Thanks to Patrick Daly and David Carlisle. This is not an official LaTeX team release of the file. Sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Sep 9 01:58:17 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA14466 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 01:58:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA22796 for pdftex-list; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 03:46:12 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA22792 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 03:46:07 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@dialup2.inet.cz [194.196.193.2]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id MAA11405 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 12:25:08 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA20719; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 12:22:56 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: pdfTeX and system libraries X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.120pre2 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicited e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicited e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 05 Sep 1998 12:22:48 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 65 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Bernhard Simon notified me about problems when pdfTeX is compiled against system png library so I look deeply in our header files inclusion strategy. And I see: in image.h: #include "libpng/png.h" This is _very_bad_ because we include header file of pdfTeX's pnglib even when compiling with system pnglib, so we are going to problems... For example - I have libpng-devel-0.96-1 on my system and pdfTeX's one version is 1.0.1. pdfTeX's compilation than ends with error message, because my system pnglib doesn't contain some functions used by pdfTeX. So I added something like this to image.h in my tree: --- pdftex-0.12o-6/pdftexdir/image.h Thu Jul 30 15:32:06 1998 +++ pdftex-0.12o-7/pdftexdir/image.h Sat Sep 5 11:58:15 1998 @@ -1,4 +1,15 @@ #include "libpng/png.h" + +/* + Old versions of libpng do not contain some functions that pdfTeX use, so + we must use correct library. + Fri Sep 4 23:40:11 CEST 1998 (pj) +*/ + +#if PNG_LIBPNG_VER < 10001 +#error "Your system libpng is too old for pdfTeX, please use pdfTeX's one." +#endif + #include "jpg.h" #define PDF_INFO(N) (N + image_tab)->image_struct.pdf But this is not all - we must solve our problems with include files. We _should not_ include "libpng/png.h" - we must include "png.h" but if I changed this it fails when compiling xpdf's pdftoepdf.cc. There is this inclusion of epdf.h which includes image.h which includes png.h. And because commandline was: c++ -g -O2 -DHAVE_DIRENT_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_SELECT_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DHAVE_POPEN=1 -DHAVE_LIBXPM=1 -I../goo -I../ltk -I../.. -I../../zlib -I. -I/usr/X11R6/include -c pdftoepdf.cc -o pdftoepdf.o We do not have proper path to pdfTeX's png.h, so we include our system png.h which is (after my patch) old and I (right) got: In file included from epdf.h:6, from pdftoepdf.cc:19: ../../image.h:10: #error "Your system libpng is too old for pdfTeX, please use pdfTeX's one." But I cannot see how we should change this, because xpdf has its own configure. Can you look at it? Another thing is xpdf and system zlib: xpdf/xpdf Makefile contains: -I$(PDFTEXDIR)/zlib This is also very bad, the same reason :-( -- Pavel Janík ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Sep 9 01:59:06 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA14487 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 01:59:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA22855 for pdftex-list; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 03:52:22 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA22852 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 03:52:20 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id NAA26171; hop 0; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 13:06:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 7 Sep 1998 13:13:16 +0100 Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 13:04:04 +0100 Message-ID: <2991-Mon07Sep1998130404+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q) From: Sebastian Rahtz To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: hyperref 6.35 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I have cleaned up the hyperref package again, and installed 6.35 on CTAN: a) I added a new option linktocpage to make TOC have links on page numbers instead of section text b) I rewrote or checked all uses of \colorlink, so that they have a corresponding \hy@endcolorlink (was \hyper@resetcolor), and so are in a \begingroup ... \endgroup group (requested by Patrick Daly, for consistency if nothing else). the latter could have ramifications. test so far indicate that its OK. sounds dull, but the changes could make or break some documents! so I felt i should make an announcement. sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Sep 9 02:30:55 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA15235 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 02:30:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA23412 for pdftex-list; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 04:19:17 -0400 Received: from cs.umb.edu (root@cs.umb.edu [158.121.104.2]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA23407 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 04:19:16 -0400 Received: from hub.cs.umb.edu (hub.cs.umb.edu [158.121.104.161]) by cs.umb.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA25653 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 08:51:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Karl Berry Received: (from karl@localhost) by hub.cs.umb.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA28562; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 08:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 08:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809081251.IAA28562@hub.cs.umb.edu> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: [pinaki.ray@dsto.defence.gov.au: RE: [pinaki.ray@dsto.defence.gov.au: Kpathsea]] Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk This user informed me that kpathsea.pdf on the CTAN CD's he just got was unreadable. I'm not sure where the problem lies, but since it was presumably produced with pdftex, I'm forwarding here. I'm not sure if Dante actually created that .pdf file, I don't think so. Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 10:21:21 +0930 From: "Ray, Pinaki" To: "'Karl Berry'" Subject: RE: [pinaki.ray@dsto.defence.gov.au: Kpathsea] Thanks very much indeed for your reply. Interestingly, just after I emailed to you I received 3 CD ROMS (DANTE) from TUG. On the 3rd CD I located the file \Systems\PDF Tex\Kpathsea.pdf . However, clicking the file to open with Acrobat Reader (vers. 3.01) I got the following message: "There was an error opening this document. File does not begin with '%PDF-' ". Probably this is a corrupted version on the DANTE CD, and I will now try the original source pointed by you. This should be doubly checked and, if found to be true, brought to the notice of DANTE. I do not know how to undertake it from this end. Pinaki From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Sep 9 02:57:18 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA15720 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 02:57:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA24017 for pdftex-list; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 04:48:15 -0400 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id EAA24014 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 04:48:14 -0400 Received: from wkaxp1.wkap.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SN-SMTP (PP) with ESMTP; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 10:48:02 +0200 Received: from pc709 (pc709.wkap.nl) by wkap.nl (PMDF V5.1-4 #29553) with SMTP id <01J1LLYBEQ9C00A1C7@wkap.nl>; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 10:49:02 +0100 Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 10:47:52 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time) From: Taco Hoekwater Subject: Re: pdfTeX and system libraries In-reply-to: To: "Pavel Janik ml." Cc: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.3 Build (39) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Authentication: none Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 05 Sep 1998 12:22:48 +0200 "Pavel Janik ml." wrote: > Hi, > > Bernhard Simon notified me about problems when pdfTeX is compiled > against system png library so I look deeply in our header files > inclusion strategy. And I see: I don't know how to fix this problem (I'd use a symlink, but that's just a personal ugly hack), but I have another problem related to header files. pdftex uses TIFF.h for the TIFF support, and on FAT, this becomes the same name as the system's tiff.h from libtiff. so, when TIFF.h says: #include , it goes into infinite recursion. Taco -- Taco Hoekwater texhelp@wkap.nl Kluwer Academic Publishers -- Pre Press -- Achterom 119, 3311 KB Dordrecht, The Netherlands tel. 31-78-6392550 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Sep 9 03:26:40 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA16313 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 03:26:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA24599 for pdftex-list; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:15:33 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA24596 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:15:31 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id KAA18932; hop 0; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 10:08:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 10:15:13 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13814.18005.515000.820025@SRAHTZ> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 10:11:49 +0100 ( `) To: karl@cs.umb.edu Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [pinaki.ray@dsto.defence.gov.au: RE: [pinaki.ray@dsto.defence.gov.au: Kpathsea]] In-Reply-To: <199809081251.IAA28562@hub.cs.umb.edu> References: <199809081251.IAA28562@hub.cs.umb.edu> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Karl Berry writes: > emailed to you I received 3 CD ROMS (DANTE) from TUG. On the 3rd CD I > located the file \Systems\PDF Tex\Kpathsea.pdf . However, clicking the > file to open with Acrobat Reader (vers. 3.01) I got the following lord knows what Dante are up to. have they really created a directory called "PDF TeX" what I see on CTAN is ouse:pdftex$ ls COPYING README kpathsea.pdf.gz ChangeLog bin pdftex.tar.gz so I suspect the .gz has got lost along the way sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Sep 9 03:32:08 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA16389 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 03:32:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA24721 for pdftex-list; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:23:05 -0400 Received: from samba.intra.jablotron.cz (gw.jablotron.cz [194.228.41.250]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA24717 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 05:23:00 -0400 Received: from Osoba.intra.jablotron.cz (osoba.intra.jablotron.cz [192.168.250.38]) by samba.intra.jablotron.cz with SMTP id LAA30948 (8.7.6/IDA-1.6); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 11:25:28 +0200 Message-ID: <199809090925.LAA30948@samba.intra.jablotron.cz> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Jiri Osoba" Organization: Jablotron Ltd. - Development dpt. To: Taco Hoekwater Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 11:23:59 +0200 Subject: Re: pdfTeX and system libraries Reply-to: Jiri Osoba CC: pdftex@tug.org X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 9 Sep 98 at 10:47, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > > I don't know how to fix this problem (I'd use a symlink, but that's > just a personal ugly hack), but I have another problem related to > header files. pdftex uses TIFF.h for the TIFF support, and on FAT, > this becomes the same name as the system's tiff.h from libtiff. > > so, when TIFF.h says: #include , it goes into infinite > recursion. I reported this problem to Pavel some time ago and Pavel promissed to rename this header in next version. Jiri. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Sep 9 04:30:38 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA17511 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 04:30:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA25904 for pdftex-list; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 06:23:00 -0400 Received: from cc.vsu.ru (root@ns.vsu.relarn.ru [194.226.24.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA25901 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 06:22:49 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cc.vsu.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id BAA25353 for pdftex@tug.org; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 01:51:23 +0400 Received: (from vvv@localhost) by vvv.vsu.ru (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA21230; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 01:51:17 +0400 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: undefined glyphs while preloading truetype fonts MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.8.5 - "Nishi-Takaoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Vladimir Volovich Date: 06 Sep 1998 01:51:16 +0400 Message-ID: Lines: 65 X-Mailer: Semi-gnus 6.8.17 (based on Gnus 5.6.42; for SEMI 1.8, FLIM 1.8/1.9) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, When preloading truetype fonts, pdftex sometimes produces warnings like this: This happens e.g. with pdftex version 3.14159-0.12o-6-tiff3 (Web2C 7.2) and with earlier versions as well, and not only with `macron' glyph. The conditions under which this happens, seem to be the following. There are two `macron-like' glyphs which are present in most unicode ttf fonts: 00AF MACRON 02C9 MODIFIER LETTER MACRON (codes above are their unicode numbers, and the names are their unicode names). The standard Adobe name for both these glyphs is `macron' (however, these glyphs look differently in the ttf fonts: 00AF is wider). What happens in the TTF fonts: 00AF is mapped in `cmap' table to some internal glyph number, which varies from font to font; this number is mapped in the `post' table to the name `overstroke'. 02C9 is mapped differently in the ttf fonts. 1) in those fonts which do not have problems with macron in pdftex, this glyph is mapped to some internal glyph number, which has in `post' table the name `macron'. All is Ok. 2) in those fonts which do have problems with macron in pdftex, this glyph (02C9) is mapped to some internal glyph number (in cmap), but in `post' table this glyph is reported as `Mac Glyph #219'. So, there is no assignment of `macron' name to this glyph. The character name `macron' is absent in the `post' table in the ttf font, but such glyph is present in the font. We discussed this problem with Werner Lemberg, and he wrote: WL> The structure of the `post' table is a bit obscure. In the WL> format 2.0 `post' table, the first 258 names are always the WL> default Macintosh glyph names (to save some space in the font); WL> the real glyph names in the font start with index 258. Thus, a WL> name index 218 points to Mac Glyph #219 which is `macron'. WL> Maybe, there is a typo in an array of pdftex specifying these WL> default names... Why pdftex produces a warning about macron, but not about other glyphs which are absent too? Maybe, it sees that the char is present in a tfm file and in a map file, but does not see the glyph with the name specified in the map file? Does pdftex `know' about the standard Mac Glyph Names, which are optional in the `post' table, as mentioned above? Are these glyphs accessible by pdftex through their names in enc files? [the last question will be solved if pdftex will `know' about the standard mac glyph names which are absent in `post' table] Thanks. Best regards, -- Vladimir. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Sep 9 06:04:15 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19226 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 06:04:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA26545 for pdftex-list; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:55:38 -0400 Received: from vms.rhbnc.ac.uk (alpha1.rhbnc.ac.uk [134.219.201.113]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA26541; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 07:55:32 -0400 Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:53:57 +0100 From: Philip Taylor (RHBNC) Reply-To: P.Taylor@vms.rhbnc.ac.uk To: s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk CC: KARL@tug.org, PDFTEX@tug.org, CHAA006@vms.rhbnc.ac.uk Message-Id: <980909125357.3152@vms.rhbnc.ac.uk> Subject: Re: [pinaki.ray@dsto.defence.gov.au: RE: [pinaki.ray@dsto.defence.gov.au: Kpathsea]] Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >> lord knows what Dante are up to. have they really created a directory >> called "PDF TeX" No, it's called "Pdftex" when seen under NT; dragging it onto a copy of WinZip reveals that inside is indeed a copy of "kpathsea.pdf", and Acrobat can read that embedded copy. ** Phil. >> so I suspect the .gz has got lost along the way I sadly agree. Just goes to prove that CTAN should _not_ store files in .GZ format :-) ** Phil. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Sep 9 06:07:28 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19314 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 06:07:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA26566 for pdftex-list; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 08:00:51 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA26562; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 08:00:49 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id MAA26084; hop 0; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:53:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:00:33 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13814.27951.837000.898766@SRAHTZ> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:57:35 +0100 ( `) To: P.Taylor@vms.rhbnc.ac.uk Cc: KARL@tug.org, PDFTEX@tug.org, CHAA006@vms.rhbnc.ac.uk Subject: Re: [pinaki.ray@dsto.defence.gov.au: RE: [pinaki.ray@dsto.defence.gov.au: Kpathsea]] In-Reply-To: <980909125357.3152@vms.rhbnc.ac.uk> References: <980909125357.3152@vms.rhbnc.ac.uk> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Philip Taylor (RHBNC) writes: > No, it's called "Pdftex" when seen under NT; > dragging it onto a copy of WinZip reveals that > inside is indeed a copy of "kpathsea.pdf", and > Acrobat can read that embedded copy. so winzip silently decompresses it? > >> so I suspect the .gz has got lost along the way > > I sadly agree. Just goes to prove that CTAN should _not_ store > files in .GZ format :-) as a matter of principle, CTAN does not store compressed files in general; but when we mirror other people's sites, we tend to leave well alone Dante quality control issue, IMHO Sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Sep 10 00:25:54 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA15946 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 00:25:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA29399 for pdftex-list; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 02:17:15 -0400 Received: from esemetz.ese-metz.fr (root@esemetz.ese-metz.fr [193.48.224.212]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA29396 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 02:17:13 -0400 Received: from NEUROMANCER.ese-metz.fr (neuromancer.ese-metz.fr [193.48.224.95]) by esemetz.ese-metz.fr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA03558 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 08:17:19 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: pdftex bug Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Fabrice POPINEAU Date: 10 Sep 1998 08:17:40 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 48 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.38/XEmacs 21.0 - "Irish Goat" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Following the bug Hans discovered, could anybody comment about this potential patch : --- pdftex.ch-orig Sat Aug 29 23:02:10 1998 +++ pdftex.ch Thu Sep 03 20:50:42 1998 @@ -4477,15 +4477,24 @@ if get_pdf_output <= 0 then pdf_error("ext1", "\pdfform used when \pdfoutput is not set"); scan_eight_bit_int; - incr(form_ptr); - pdf_create_obj(obj_type_form, form_ptr); - pdf_last_form := obj_ptr; - obj_form_ptr(obj_ptr) := pdf_get_mem(pdf_form_struct_size); - obj_form_width(obj_ptr) := width(box(cur_val)); - obj_form_height(obj_ptr) := height(box(cur_val)); - obj_form_depth(obj_ptr) := depth(box(cur_val)); - obj_form_box(obj_ptr) := box(cur_val); {save pointer to the box} - box(cur_val) := null; + if box(cur_val) = null then + begin + print_err("You have tried to use an empty box in a form."); + help1("I'm discarding it."); + error; + cur_val := 0; + end + else begin + incr(form_ptr); + pdf_create_obj(obj_type_form, form_ptr); + pdf_last_form := obj_ptr; + obj_form_ptr(obj_ptr) := pdf_get_mem(pdf_form_struct_size); + obj_form_width(obj_ptr) := width(box(cur_val)); + obj_form_height(obj_ptr) := height(box(cur_val)); + obj_form_depth(obj_ptr) := depth(box(cur_val)); + obj_form_box(obj_ptr) := box(cur_val); {save pointer to the box} + box(cur_val) := null; + end; end @ @= Also, there is (very small) correction to bring in pdftexdir/writeimg.c : there is a '\n' in some TEX_PRINTF() call that ends up as ^^J on the console. Better replace this '\n' by a space. Fabrice From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Sep 10 01:46:08 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA17349 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 01:46:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA29574 for pdftex-list; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 03:35:52 -0400 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id DAA29571 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 03:35:51 -0400 Received: from wkaxp1.wkap.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SN-SMTP (PP) with ESMTP; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:35:48 +0200 Received: from pc709 (pc709.wkap.nl) by wkap.nl (PMDF V5.1-4 #29553) with SMTP id <01J1MXQ3PJVK009OZ2@wkap.nl>; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:36:48 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:35:38 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time) From: Taco Hoekwater Subject: Re: pdftex bug In-reply-to: To: Fabrice POPINEAU Cc: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.3 Build (39) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Authentication: none Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 08:17:40 +0200 Fabrice POPINEAU wrote: > > Hi, > > Following the bug Hans discovered, could anybody comment about this > potential patch : > > --- pdftex.ch-orig Sat Aug 29 23:02:10 1998 > +++ pdftex.ch Thu Sep 03 20:50:42 1998 > @@ -4477,15 +4477,24 @@ > if get_pdf_output <= 0 then > pdf_error("ext1", "\pdfform used when \pdfoutput is not set"); > scan_eight_bit_int; > - incr(form_ptr); > - pdf_create_obj(obj_type_form, form_ptr); > - pdf_last_form := obj_ptr; > - obj_form_ptr(obj_ptr) := pdf_get_mem(pdf_form_struct_size); > - obj_form_width(obj_ptr) := width(box(cur_val)); > - obj_form_height(obj_ptr) := height(box(cur_val)); > - obj_form_depth(obj_ptr) := depth(box(cur_val)); > - obj_form_box(obj_ptr) := box(cur_val); {save pointer to the box} > - box(cur_val) := null; > + if box(cur_val) = null then > + begin > + print_err("You have tried to use an empty box in a form."); > + help1("I'm discarding it."); > + error; > + cur_val := 0; > + end This should work fine, but I prefer the error to say "void box" instead of "empty box". And a small optimization: I don't think that there is a need to reset cur_val (will be taken care of by the next scan_int anyway). Taco From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Sep 10 03:02:01 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA18931 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 03:01:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA29815 for pdftex-list; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 04:50:36 -0400 Received: from esemetz.ese-metz.fr (root@esemetz.ese-metz.fr [193.48.224.212]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA29812 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 04:50:35 -0400 Received: from NEUROMANCER.ese-metz.fr (neuromancer.ese-metz.fr [193.48.224.95]) by esemetz.ese-metz.fr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA05249; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:50:37 +0200 To: Taco Hoekwater Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex bug References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Fabrice POPINEAU Date: 10 Sep 1998 10:50:29 +0200 In-Reply-To: Taco Hoekwater's message of "Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:35:38 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time)" Message-ID: Lines: 13 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.38/XEmacs 21.0 - "Irish Goat" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Taco Hoekwater writes: > This should work fine, but I prefer the error to say "void box" > instead of "empty box". And a small optimization: I don't think that > there is a need to reset cur_val (will be taken care of by the next > scan_int anyway). > No problem for me ! I'm not the expert :-) Thanks, Fabrice From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Sep 10 03:45:04 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA19669 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 03:45:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA29904 for pdftex-list; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 05:29:42 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA29901 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 05:29:40 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id KAA23574; hop 0; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:22:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:29:28 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:19:58 +0100 Message-ID: <8800-Thu10Sep1998101958+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q) From: Sebastian Rahtz To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: section numbers in pdf bookmarks Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Do people believe that the PDF bookmark thing (if you use it) should include section numbers as well as section titles? sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Sep 10 04:41:40 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20678 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 04:41:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA30284 for pdftex-list; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 06:33:59 -0400 Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA30281 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 06:33:57 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.21.155]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA5DE3; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 12:33:39 +0200 Message-ID: <35F7A9A2.2902CF4B@wxs.nl> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 12:27:46 +0200 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fabrice POPINEAU CC: Taco Hoekwater , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex bug References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Fabrice POPINEAU wrote: > No problem for me ! I'm not the expert :-) Well, *you* solved the bug. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Sep 10 12:22:00 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA01852 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 12:21:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA31886 for pdftex-list; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:19:10 -0400 Received: from mailman.campbellsci.com (mailman.campbellsci.com [207.201.118.3]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA31883 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:19:09 -0400 Received: from carl_zmola ([207.201.118.7]) by mailman.campbellsci.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with SMTP id AAA96 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 12:18:22 -0600 From: "Carl Zmola" To: pdftex@tug.org Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 12:15:00 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: importing graphics into pdflatex documents Reply-to: zmola@campbellsci.com Message-ID: <19980910181822480.AAA96@carl_zmola> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk My company's software develpers myself included have started using pdftex for documents. We currently use xfig for drawing, but havn't been able to get graphics to import well. Latex drawings don't print from pdftex (slanted line problem). I have used MetaPost by hand with ConTeXt. I am offering to make a document that explains importing of graphics if there is enough information and desire. Carl zmola@campbellsci.com From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Sep 10 13:07:10 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03161 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 13:07:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA32136 for pdftex-list; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:05:09 -0400 Received: from halifax.chebucto.ns.ca (halifax.chebucto.ns.Ca [129.173.4.205]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA32133 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:05:08 -0400 Received: from chebucto.ns.ca ([129.173.4.200]:4056 "EHLO chebucto.ns.ca" ident: "root") by halifax.chebucto.ns.ca with ESMTP id <34750-5117>; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:04:49 -0300 Received: from aa056@localhost by chebucto.ns.ca id <97040-28963>; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:04:41 -0300 Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:04:27 -0300 (ADT) From: George White To: Carl Zmola cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: importing graphics into pdflatex documents In-Reply-To: <19980910181822480.AAA96@carl_zmola> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I have had good results with the following strategy: 0. if possible, use metapost 1. if not metapost and not image data, use aimaker (pointer at http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~aa056) to generate font-free Illustrator EPS. Convert images to pdf (a way to directly use images in EPS files would be useful!). 2. convert AI EPS to PDF using Aladdin GS. You have to be careful to translate the origin so the BoundingBox is [0 0 xx yy], as pdftex lacks the same clipping and windowing you get with EPS. -- George White Halifax, Nova Scotia On Thu, 10 Sep 1998, Carl Zmola wrote: > > My company's software develpers myself included > have started using pdftex for documents. We currently > use xfig for drawing, but havn't been able to > get graphics to import well. Latex drawings don't > print from pdftex (slanted line problem). > > I have used MetaPost by hand with ConTeXt. I am > offering to make a document that explains importing > of graphics if there is enough information and desire. > > > > Carl > zmola@campbellsci.com > From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Sep 10 13:25:55 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03820 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 13:25:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA32218 for pdftex-list; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:19:17 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA32215 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:19:13 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@SnowWhite.inet.cz [194.196.192.9]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id VAA07396; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:14:35 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA09273; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:17:44 +0200 To: zmola@campbellsci.com CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: importing graphics into pdflatex documents References: <19980910181822480.AAA96@carl_zmola> X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.120pre2 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicited e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicited e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 10 Sep 1998 21:17:33 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Carl Zmola"'s message of Thu, 10 Sep 1998 12:15:00 +0000 Message-ID: Lines: 19 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: "Carl Zmola" Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 12:15:00 +0000 Hi, > I have used MetaPost by hand with ConTeXt. I am > offering to make a document that explains importing > of graphics if there is enough information and desire. I hope I can speak for developers of pdfTeX: Please do it because every documentation is good in this phase of development :-) More docs -> more users -> more testers -> more bugreports -> less bugs -> less bugfixes -> more development -> more users ... P.S. I just got from some illness so expect pdftex-0.12o-7 (and hopefully new tiff version too) tomorrow. -- Pavel Janik ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Sep 10 13:52:12 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04543 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 13:52:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA32314 for pdftex-list; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:33:18 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA32311 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:33:11 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@SnowWhite.inet.cz [194.196.192.9]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id VAA07971 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:28:24 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA09988; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:31:31 +0200 To: pdfTeX@tug.org Subject: Any volunteer for pdfTeX-FAq maintainer? X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.122pre2 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicited e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicited e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 10 Sep 1998 21:31:14 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 7 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi. Subject says it all... If you would like to maintain pdfTeX-FAQ and make my living easier, please mail me. -- Pavel Janík ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Sep 10 18:05:33 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA11501 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 18:05:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA32752 for pdftex-list; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 20:00:53 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA32747 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 20:00:50 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@dialup1.inet.cz [194.196.193.1]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id BAA16743; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 01:56:05 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA09864; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 01:58:11 +0200 To: Vladimir Volovich CC: pdftex@tug.org, Werner LEMBERG Subject: Re: undefined glyphs while preloading truetype fonts References: X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.120pre2 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicited e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicited e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 11 Sep 1998 01:58:04 +0200 In-Reply-To: Vladimir Volovich's message of 06 Sep 1998 01:51:16 +0400 Message-ID: Lines: 152 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk [I post a copy to Werner Lebmerg. Werner, what do you think about this? Can we continue the discussion about this on freetype-devel?] From: Vladimir Volovich Date: 06 Sep 1998 01:51:16 +0400 Hi, > Warning: pdftex (file times.ttf): > glyph `macron' undefined > > I leave this here only for your reference. > 00AF is mapped in `cmap' table to some internal glyph number, which > varies from font to font; this number is mapped in the `post' table to > the name `overstroke'. Well, to be exact: `overscore'. > WL> The structure of the `post' table is a bit obscure. In the > WL> format 2.0 `post' table, the first 258 names are always the > WL> default Macintosh glyph names (to save some space in the font); > WL> the real glyph names in the font start with index 258. Thus, a > WL> name index 218 points to Mac Glyph #219 which is `macron'. > WL> Maybe, there is a typo in an array of pdftex specifying these > WL> default names... Werner is right, there is, no, there are :-(( When using TTF fonts you must generate TFM file. You can use ttf2afm which is distributed with pdfTeX. There is table mac_glyph, which includes all 258 mac glyph names, but in the previous versions of ttf2afm there were some bugs which I have fixed right now (BTW - what kind of ***** man wrote that silly True Type 1.0 Font Files Specification?). I hope patch will explain it better than words: --- ttf2afm.c-orig Thu Sep 10 23:43:20 1998 +++ ttf2afm.c Fri Sep 11 01:32:24 1998 @@ -177,40 +177,75 @@ char notdef[] = ".notdef"; char *mac_glyph[NMACGLYPHS] = { +/* 0 */ notdef, ".null", "CR", "space", "exclam", "quotedbl", "numbersign", "dollar", +/* 8 */ "percent", "ampersand", "quotesingle", "parenleft", "parenright", "asterisk", +/* 14 */ "plus", "comma", "hyphen", "period", "slash", "zero", "one", "two", "three", +/* 23 */ "four", "five", "six", "seven", "eight", "nine", "colon", "semicolon", "less", +/* 32 */ "equal", "greater", "question", "at", "A", "B", "C", "D", "E", "F", "G", "H", +/* 44 */ "I", "J", "K", "L", "M", "N", "O", "P", "Q", "R", "S", "T", "U", "V", "W", +/* 59 */ "X", "Y", "Z", "bracketleft", "backslash", "bracketright", "asciicircum", +/* 66 */ "underscore", "grave", "a", "b", "c", "d", "e", "f", "g", "h", "i", "j", "k", +/* 79 */ "l", "m", "n", "o", "p", "q", "r", "s", "t", "u", "v", "w", "x", "y", "z", +/* 94 */ "braceleft", "bar", "braceright", "asciitilde", "Adieresis", "Aring", +/* 100 */ "Ccedilla", "Eacute", "Ntilde", "Odieresis", "Udieresis", "aacute", "agrave", +/* 107 */ "acircumflex", "adieresis", "atilde", "aring", "ccedilla", "eacute", "egrave", +/* 114 */ "ecircumflex", "edieresis", "iacute", "igrave", "icircumflex", "idieresis", +/* 120 */ "ntilde", "oacute", "ograve", "ocircumflex", "odieresis", "otilde", "uacute", +/* 127 */ "ugrave", "ucircumflex", "udieresis", "dagger", "degree", "cent", "sterling", +/* 134 */ "section", "bullet", "paragraph", "germandbls", "registered", "copyright", +/* 140 */ "trademark", "acute", "dieresis", "notequal", "AE", "Oslash", "infinity", -"plusminus", "lessequal", "greaterequal", "yen", "mu", "partialdiff", "Sigma", -"Pi", "pi", "integral", "ordfeminine", "ordmasculine", "Omega", "ae", +/* 147 */ +"plusminus", "lessequal", "greaterequal", "yen", "mu1", "partialdiff", "summation", +/* 154 */ +"product", "pi", "integral", "ordfeminine", "ordmasculine", "Ohm", "ae", +/* 161 */ "oslash", "questiondown", "exclamdown", "logicalnot", "radical", "florin", -"approxequal", "Delta", "guillemotleft", "guillemotright", "ellipsis", +/* 167 */ +"approxequal", "increment", "guillemotleft", "guillemotright", "ellipsis", +/* 172 */ "nbspace", "Agrave", "Atilde", "Otilde", "OE", "oe", "endash", "emdash", +/* 180 */ "quotedblleft", "quotedblright", "quoteleft", "quoteright", "divide", +/* 185 */ "lozenge", "ydieresis", "Ydieresis", "fraction", "currency", "guilsinglleft", -"guilsinglright", "fi", "fl", "daggerdbl", "middot", "quotesinglbase", +/* 191 */ +"guilsinglright", "fi", "fl", "daggerdbl", "periodcentered", "quotesinglbase", +/* 197 */ "quotedblbase", "perthousand", "Acircumflex", "Ecircumflex", "Aacute", +/* 202 */ "Edieresis", "Egrave", "Iacute", "Icircumflex", "Idieresis", "Igrave", +/* 208 */ "Oacute", "Ocircumflex", "applelogo", "Ograve", "Uacute", "Ucircumflex", +/* 214 */ "Ugrave", "dotlessi", "circumflex", "tilde", "overscore", "breve", +/* 220 */ "dotaccent", "ring", "cedilla", "hungarumlaut", "ogonek", "caron", "Lslash", +/* 227 */ "lslash", "Scaron", "scaron", "Zcaron", "zcaron", "brokenbar", "Eth", "eth", +/* 235 */ "Yacute", "yacute", "Thorn", "thorn", "minus", "multiply", "onesuperior", +/* 242 */ "twosuperior", "threesuperior", "onehalf", "onequarter", "threequarters", +/* 247 */ "franc", "Gbreve", "gbreve", "Idot", "Scedilla", "scedilla", "Cacute", +/* 254 */ "cacute", "Ccaron", "ccaron", "dmacron" }; Patched version is in 0.12o-7. But as a diamond on the top of the cake I have found this: on the position 218: Specs says: overscore ttf2afm says: overscore freetype says: macron But in the docs/TODO file of freetype-1.1 there is this: --- cut here --- Clear up various PostScript glyph names in ftxpost.c: Omega vs. Ohm Delta vs. increment macron vs. overscore my vs. mu1 periodcentered vs. middot --- cut here --- Well, pdfTeX will have the same names as in TTF Specs (I've checked all 258 glyph names :-((). If you have some problems, please report it. Well, I'm disgusted now. I've just read in the Micro$$$oft Specs, that something is right and five minutes later, after I type $ ttfdump times.ttf (from WindowsNT 4.0) I see that something other is righter... I hope I'll regenerate my brain in bed... Sorry. Good night. -- Pavel Janík ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Sep 10 18:05:55 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA11510 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 18:05:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA32755 for pdftex-list; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 20:00:55 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA32751 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 20:00:53 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@dialup1.inet.cz [194.196.193.1]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id BAA16759; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 01:56:13 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA06700; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 23:22:04 +0200 To: Fabrice POPINEAU CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex bug References: X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.122pre2 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicited e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicited e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 10 Sep 1998 23:21:48 +0200 In-Reply-To: Fabrice POPINEAU's message of 10 Sep 1998 08:17:40 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 68 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: Fabrice POPINEAU Date: 10 Sep 1998 08:17:40 +0200 Hi, I just applied Fabrice's patch, with some corrections: 1. indentation (I hope Thanh would like to see his indentation style in his sources :-))) 2. cur_val should not be set to 0, because it is used only in scan_eight_.. (which use scan_int as Taco suggested). 3. void box (not empty, thanks Taco). > Also, there is (very small) correction to bring in > pdftexdir/writeimg.c : there is a '\n' in some TEX_PRINTF() call that > ends up as ^^J on the console. Better replace this '\n' by a space. Done too (but I cannot see this on Linux - it's probably on win32 and DOS only. Right?). I also added some #define code to make it easier to compile DJGPP version (any volunteer to try DJGPP on Linux to allow me to produce DJGPP binaries myself?). If you are compiling pdfTeX on different platform then me (Red Hat Linux 5.1/2.1.122pre2, glibc) and have noticed some problems, please let me know - we should have clear compilation process to run pdfTeX on all platforms. Well, here is diffstat for the patch: README | 2 +- pdftexdir/image.h | 15 +++++++++++++++ pdftexdir/pdftex.ch | 27 +++++++++++++++++---------- pdftexdir/writeimg.c | 2 +- pdftexdir/xpdf-0.7a/xpdf/config.h | 2 +- 5 files changed, 35 insertions, 13 deletions As you can see there are no major changes, so pdfTeX's users should not have to upgrade to new version (only when some problems arises). pdfTeX-0.12o-7 will be on FTP tomorrow morning (as soon as I get from my bed ;-). And now the next things I have on my heart: 1. I'd like to have done one of these things: a. pdfTeX can compile with C compiler only (no C++ compiler) b. pdfTeX can compile with C compiler only, but some features (PDF inclusion only) will be not included. I know that a. means to rewrite all parts of xpdf which are used by pdfTeX to C and it's hard and time consuming. So we should probably start with b. Or do you thing that we should depend on both compilers? 2. As I already wrote I'd like to clean up compilation process and header files inclusion - problems with zlib and png include files. BTW - is there anybody who can successfully compile pdfTeX with both of these as system (not pdfTeX's one) libraries? 3. I'm 100% sure that I forgot something :-) 4. Of course, we should also clean up ttf2afm and add -Wall to its compilation flags. -- Pavel Janik ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Sep 10 18:55:26 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA12672 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 18:55:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA00301 for pdftex-list; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 20:50:39 -0400 Received: from lorraine.loria.fr (lorraine.loria.fr [152.81.1.17]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA00298 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 20:50:37 -0400 Received: from renaissance.loria.fr (renaissance.loria.fr [152.81.4.102]) by lorraine.loria.fr (8.8.7/8.8.7/8.8.7/JCG) with ESMTP id CAA19435; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 02:50:28 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Denis B. Roegel" Received: (from roegel@localhost) by renaissance.loria.fr (8.8.2/8.8.2) id CAA03601; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 02:50:26 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 02:50:26 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199809110050.CAA03601@renaissance.loria.fr> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: can version 0.12n use ttf fonts? Cc: roegel@lorraine.loria.fr Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I am just curious: can pdftex 0.12n use ttf fonts? If so, it seems I need ttf2afm. Where can I find it? Thanks in advance, Denis From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Sep 10 23:48:14 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA18871 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 23:48:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA00687 for pdftex-list; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 01:43:02 -0400 Received: from samba.intra.jablotron.cz (gw.jablotron.cz [194.228.41.250]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA00684 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 01:42:56 -0400 Received: from Osoba.intra.jablotron.cz (osoba.intra.jablotron.cz [192.168.250.38]) by samba.intra.jablotron.cz with SMTP id HAA10820 (8.7.6/IDA-1.6 for ); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 07:46:38 +0200 Message-ID: <199809110546.HAA10820@samba.intra.jablotron.cz> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Jiri Osoba" Organization: Jablotron Ltd. - Development dpt. To: pdftex@tug.org Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 07:44:14 +0200 Subject: Re: can version 0.12n use ttf fonts? Reply-to: Jiri Osoba X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 11 Sep 98 at 2:50, Denis B. Roegel wrote: > > I am just curious: can pdftex 0.12n use ttf fonts? It could. > If so, it seems I need ttf2afm. Where can I find it? It could be attached with pdftex. Jiri. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Sep 11 02:07:46 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA21815 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 02:07:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA01093 for pdftex-list; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 03:56:00 -0400 Received: from NIH2WAAF (smtp6.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.75]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA01090 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 03:55:57 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 03:55:55 -0400 Received: from rd2 (lon-dnbsj-097.gbr.compuserve.net [195.232.124.97]) by hil-img-ims-2.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.4) with SMTP id DAA00230; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 03:55:33 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: From: "David Waller" To: "'Sebastian Rahtz'" , Subject: RE: section numbers in pdf bookmarks Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:52:36 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bddd59$e46e3ea0$3c640c7b@rd2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199809100543_MC2-58DA-6C79@compuserve.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I prefer the section title only, but accept some people would like to see both. How about making it user selectable. Dave Waller -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdftex@tug.org [mailto:owner-pdftex@tug.org]On Behalf Of Sebastian Rahtz Sent: 10 September 1998 10:43 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: section numbers in pdf bookmarks Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by arl-img-6.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.14) with ESMTP id FAA25992; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 05:42:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA29904 for pdftex-list; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 05:29:42 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA29901 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 05:29:40 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id KAA23574; hop 0; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:22:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:29:28 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:19:58 +0100 Message-ID: <8800-Thu10Sep1998101958+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q) From: Sebastian Rahtz To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: section numbers in pdf bookmarks Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Do people believe that the PDF bookmark thing (if you use it) should include section numbers as well as section titles? sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Sep 11 05:02:39 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA24943 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:02:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA01407 for pdftex-list; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 06:39:03 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA01403 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 06:39:01 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id LAA21057; hop 0; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 11:32:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:27:48 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13816.59713.929000.48478@SRAHTZ> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:11:29 +0100 ( `) To: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz Cc: popineau@esemetz.ese-metz.fr, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex bug In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Pavel Janik ml. writes: > a. pdfTeX can compile with C compiler only (no C++ compiler) > b. pdfTeX can compile with C compiler only, but some features > (PDF inclusion only) will be not included. > > I know that a. means to rewrite all parts of xpdf which are used by > pdfTeX to C and it's hard and time consuming. So we should probably > start with b. Or do you thing that we should depend on both compilers? I think you'll have to make do with b). converting all of xpdf to use plain C would just be so dull, you'd go mad > 3. I'm 100% sure that I forgot something :-) > what would make me 100% happy would be use of the resolution information in tiff files... sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Sep 11 05:11:12 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA25100 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:11:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA01411 for pdftex-list; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 06:39:05 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA01408 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 06:39:03 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id LAA21061; hop 0; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 11:32:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:28:25 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13816.59883.753000.37617@SRAHTZ> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:14:19 +0100 ( `) To: DWaller1@csi.com Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: RE: section numbers in pdf bookmarks In-Reply-To: <000001bddd59$e46e3ea0$3c640c7b@rd2> References: <199809100543_MC2-58DA-6C79@compuserve.com> <000001bddd59$e46e3ea0$3c640c7b@rd2> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk David Waller writes: > I prefer the section title only, but accept some people would like to see > both. How about making it user selectable. > I got no votes for making numbering the default. so i'll try to add an option am trying to break the world record for most options for a LaTeX package sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Sep 11 05:17:44 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA25236 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:17:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA01401 for pdftex-list; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 06:38:59 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA01398 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 06:38:57 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id LAA21049; hop 0; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 11:31:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:27:08 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13816.59440.566000.278638@SRAHTZ> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:06:56 +0100 ( `) To: zmola@campbellsci.com Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: importing graphics into pdflatex documents In-Reply-To: <19980910181822480.AAA96@carl_zmola> References: <19980910181822480.AAA96@carl_zmola> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Carl Zmola writes: > > My company's software develpers myself included > have started using pdftex for documents. We currently > use xfig for drawing, but havn't been able to > get graphics to import well. why not? I'd expect you to export EPS, distill, include as PDF, and hey presto. > Latex drawings don't > print from pdftex (slanted line problem). what problem? > I have used MetaPost by hand with ConTeXt. I am > offering to make a document that explains importing > of graphics if there is enough information and desire. > there is *always* a need for such documents!!! sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Sep 11 05:43:47 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA25699 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:43:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA01476 for pdftex-list; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 07:10:36 -0400 Received: from halifax.chebucto.ns.ca (halifax.chebucto.ns.Ca [129.173.4.205]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA01473 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 07:10:35 -0400 Received: from chebucto.ns.ca ([129.173.4.200]:4015 "EHLO chebucto.ns.ca" ident: "root") by halifax.chebucto.ns.ca with ESMTP id <33275-5115>; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:10:40 -0300 Received: from aa056@localhost by chebucto.ns.ca id <90628-8272>; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:10:38 -0300 Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:10:35 -0300 (ADT) From: George White To: David Waller cc: "'Sebastian Rahtz'" , pdftex@tug.org Subject: RE: section numbers in pdf bookmarks In-Reply-To: <000001bddd59$e46e3ea0$3c640c7b@rd2> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Are bookmarks used by reader to construct the outline view? If so, I do not want to see the section numbers, mainly because the outline view should be as compact as possible. In an outline view, the numbers are redundant as you can easily count. There could be a use for numbers and possible other information, however, in debugging -- I've had some problems where the outline view was incorrect in some versions of acrobat reader and not others! -- George White Halifax, Nova Scotia On Fri, 11 Sep 1998, David Waller wrote: > I prefer the section title only, but accept some people would like to see > both. How about making it user selectable. > > Dave Waller > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdftex@tug.org [mailto:owner-pdftex@tug.org]On Behalf Of > Sebastian Rahtz > Sent: 10 September 1998 10:43 > To: pdftex@tug.org > Subject: section numbers in pdf bookmarks > > Do people believe that the PDF bookmark thing (if you use it) should > include section numbers as well as section titles? > > sebastian > > > > From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Sep 11 05:44:21 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA25704 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:44:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA01658 for pdftex-list; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 07:29:44 -0400 Received: from linpwd (linpwd.mpae.gwdg.de [134.76.28.202]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA01655 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 07:29:41 -0400 Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:29:07 +0200 Message-Id: <98091113290708@linpwd.mpae.gwdg.de> From: daly@linpwd.mpae.gwdg.de (P.W.Daly, MPAe, Lindau, Germany) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: importing graphics into pdflatex documents X-VMS-To: SMTP%"pdftex@tug.org" X-VMS-Cc: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > > I am > > offering to make a document that explains importing > > of graphics if there is enough information and desire. > > > there is *always* a need for such documents!!! > > sebastian Try http://www.mpae.gwdg.de/~daly/latex/grf.pdf It is also available as grf.htm and grf.ps ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Patrick W. Daly Tel. [+49] 5556-979-279 Max-Planck-Institut fuer Aeronomie Fax. [+49] 5556-979-240 Max-Planck-Str. 2 D-37191 Katlenburg-Lindau Internet: daly@linmpi.mpg.de Germany ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Sep 11 10:16:14 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01994 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:16:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA02928 for pdftex-list; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:12:08 -0400 Received: from lhe.physics.lsa.umich.edu (sanders@lhe.physics.lsa.umich.edu [141.211.96.32]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA02925 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:12:07 -0400 Received: (from sanders@localhost) by lhe.physics.lsa.umich.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA00913 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:12:03 -0400 Message-ID: <19980911121202.B669@umich.edu> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:12:02 -0400 From: Michael Sanders To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Cropping Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Is it possible to crop the margins of a document, if one has chosen the text width and height for good viewing? The manual says: \pdfpagesattr{text} Token list parameter specifying optional attributes common for all pages of PDF output file. These attributes can be MediaBox (rectangle specifying the natural size of the page), CropBox (rectangle specifying the region of the page being displayed and printed) I haven't been able to make these work. Pdf output is produced, but acroread complains "There was an error opening this document. There was a problem reading this document (110)." I have also tried the pdfpagescrop option to hyperref, with no effect. Is this explained somewhere? -- (T.) Michael Sanders internet: sanders@umich.edu Physics Department URL: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~sanders University of Michigan phone: 734/936-0799 Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1120 FAX: 734/764-6843 From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Sep 11 12:22:22 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06744 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:22:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA03137 for pdftex-list; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:15:54 -0400 Received: from cc.vsu.ru (root@ns.vsu.relarn.ru [194.226.24.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA03134 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:15:40 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cc.vsu.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id WAA09574 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 22:13:29 +0400 Received: (from vvv@localhost) by vvv.vsu.ru (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA08622; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 22:13:13 +0400 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: undefined glyphs while preloading truetype fonts References: MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.8.5 - "Nishi-Takaoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Vladimir Volovich Date: 11 Sep 1998 22:13:13 +0400 In-Reply-To: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz's message of "11 Sep 1998 01:58:04 +0200" Message-ID: Lines: 32 X-Mailer: Semi-gnus 6.8.17 (based on Gnus 5.6.42; for SEMI 1.8, FLIM 1.8/1.9) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk "PJm" == Pavel Janik ml writes: PJm> Werner is right, there is, no, there are :-(( PJm> When using TTF fonts you must generate TFM file. You can use PJm> ttf2afm which is distributed with pdfTeX. I used the ttf2tfm from freetype (contrib/ttf2pk). But i do not think it matters much. PJm> There is table mac_glyph, which includes all 258 mac glyph PJm> names, but in the previous versions of ttf2afm there were some PJm> bugs which I have fixed right now (BTW - what kind of ***** man PJm> wrote that silly True Type 1.0 Font Files Specification?). I PJm> hope patch will explain it better than words: The patch is for ttf2afm, --- a stand-alone utility. But will it change anything with pdftex's behavior? The point is: * ttf file contained some glyph descriptions (e.g., macron) [either produced by ttf2tfm or by ttf2afm->afm2tfm (or fontinst)] * the enc file contained the glyph name (e.g., macron) * the TTF font does not contain an explicit glyph name in the post table, but contains this glyph, and it's name should be taken by convention from the table of standard mac glyph names. As your patch does not touch pdftex, how can it solve the problem? The tfm file and the enc file will be exactly the same as previously. Nothing will change (imho). Does the pdftex itself know about mac glyph names? Best regards, -- Vladimir. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Sep 11 13:28:21 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA08547 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:28:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA03357 for pdftex-list; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 15:21:52 -0400 Received: from mailman.campbellsci.com (mailman.campbellsci.com [207.201.118.3]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA03354 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 15:21:50 -0400 Received: from carl_zmola ([207.201.118.7]) by mailman.campbellsci.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with SMTP id AAA234; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:20:24 -0600 From: "Carl Zmola" To: Sebastian Rahtz Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:17:44 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: importing graphics into pdflatex documents Reply-to: zmola@campbellsci.com CC: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <13816.59440.566000.278638@SRAHTZ> References: <19980910181822480.AAA96@carl_zmola> Message-ID: <19980911192023851.AAA234@carl_zmola> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > From: Sebastian Rahtz > Carl Zmola writes: > > > > My company's software develpers myself included > > have started using pdftex for documents. We currently > > use xfig for drawing, but havn't been able to > > get graphics to import well. > why not? I'd expect you to export EPS, distill, include as PDF, and > hey presto. > You make this sound so simple. I distilled a file, data.eps. Do any special precautions need to be taken? Any special options? in my document I included a line. (do I need a special package?) \pdfliteral{\include{data.pdf}} and run : pdflatex dataproxy.tex the results are ----------- This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-0.12l (MiKTeX 1.11) (pdftex.cfg) (dataproxy.tex LaTeX2e <1998/06/01> Babel and hyphenation patterns for english, german, loaded. (article.cls Document Class: article 1998/05/05 v1.3y Standard LaTeX document class (size10.clo)) (graphics.sty (trig.sty) (graphics.cfg) (dvips.def)) (dataproxy.aux) ! Undefined control sequence. \reserved@a ->\@nil l.68 \pdfliteral{\include{data.pdf} } ? q ------------------------------------------------------------ data.eps printed ok (After adding a showpage to it). data.pdf appears fine. suggestions? Carl zmola@campbellsci.com From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Sep 11 14:45:03 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA10771 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:45:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA03574 for pdftex-list; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 16:35:17 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA03571 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 16:35:14 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@dialup3.inet.cz [194.196.193.3]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id WAA30589; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 22:30:33 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA00455; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 22:10:17 +0200 To: Vladimir Volovich CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: undefined glyphs while preloading truetype fonts References: X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.120pre2 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicited e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicited e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 11 Sep 1998 22:10:08 +0200 In-Reply-To: Vladimir Volovich's message of 11 Sep 1998 22:13:13 +0400 Message-ID: Lines: 53 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: Vladimir Volovich Date: 11 Sep 1998 22:13:13 +0400 Hi, > I used the ttf2tfm from freetype (contrib/ttf2pk). But i do not think > it matters much. It does. TTF specs haven't any char named macros in 258 Mac Glyph Names. I don't know why all of freetype programs have this. If you try new version of pdfTeX you get: SnowWhite:/home/pavel/Tmp$ ./ttf2afm times.ttf >times.afm SnowWhite:/home/pavel/Tmp$ afm2tfm times.afm -T 8r.enc times TimesNewRomanPSMT " TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont " <8r.enc SnowWhite:/home/pavel/Tmp$ cat tetex.map times TimesNewRomanPSMT " TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont " (q.tex [1] )<8r.enc> Output written on q.pdf (1 page, 11664 bytes). Transcript written on q.log. No warning, everything is fine (as I know). Problem is that if you have bad encoding of Mac Glyphs (as freetype has, and pdftex's ttf2afm had) pdfTeX than looks for char macron (e.g.) and this glyph can not be found :-( Please try it yourself. I'll be pleased be bugreports. > The patch is for ttf2afm, --- a stand-alone utility. But will it > change anything with pdftex's behavior? The point is: Well, as I sad we can not fix freetype things - if you 'd like to use TT fonts, you should use The Correct Program (tm). I personally think, that ttf2afm is it now :-) > * ttf file contained some glyph descriptions (e.g., macron) [either > produced by ttf2tfm or by ttf2afm->afm2tfm (or fontinst)] Bad, TTF cannot contain macron - the specs says: overscore, not macron. That's the point. > * the enc file contained the glyph name (e.g., macron) Bad enc file (macron doesn't is not in Mac Glyph Table = doesn't have MacChar and MacIndes - see TTF Spec 1.0 page 146). -- Pavel Janík ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Sep 11 15:02:05 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11287 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 15:02:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA03653 for pdftex-list; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 16:51:46 -0400 Received: from nx1.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE (nx1.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.131.3]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA03650 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 16:51:45 -0400 Received: from nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE by nx1.hrz.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (PP); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 22:51:26 +0200 Received: from StudServer.Uni-Dortmund.DE (actually sx2.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE) by nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE (PP) with ESMTP; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 22:51:20 +0200 Received: from rigel.univie.ac.at by StudServer.Uni-Dortmund.DE (8.8.8+Sun/HRZ-V1.6-SunOS-09/10/97-11:04:10) id WAA21042; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 22:51:13 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from sx0005@localhost) by rigel.univie.ac.at (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA10887; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 06:34:32 GMT Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 06:34:32 GMT Message-Id: <199809110634.GAA10887@rigel.univie.ac.at> X-Authentication-Warning: rigel.univie.ac.at: sx0005 set sender to sx0005@sx2.hrz.uni-dortmund.de using -f From: Werner LEMBERG To: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz CC: vvv@vvv.vsu.ru, pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: (Pavel.Janik@inet.cz) Subject: Re: undefined glyphs while preloading truetype fonts Reply-to: Werner LEMBERG References: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk [I post a copy to Werner Lebmerg. Werner, what do you think about this? Can we continue the discussion about this on freetype-devel?] This is not necessary since my mail should clarify this topic. ... patch of glyph name list deleted... Unfortunately, the PostScript glyph names given in the TrueType specification aren't identical with the official Mac glyph names. The glyph name `overscore' does only exist in the TrueType specification! It should be definitely replaced with `macron'. Omega vs. Ohm Delta vs. increment macron vs. overscore my vs. mu1 periodcentered vs. middot Again, in case of doubt, use the Mac glyph names since this is what all PS fonts use: Omega, Delta, macron, mu, periodcentered. Werner From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Sep 11 16:32:12 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA13771 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 16:32:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA03996 for pdftex-list; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 18:27:33 -0400 Received: from cc.vsu.ru (root@ns.vsu.relarn.ru [194.226.24.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA03993 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 18:27:23 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cc.vsu.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id BAA22482; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 01:47:08 +0400 Received: (from vvv@localhost) by vvv.vsu.ru (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA14664; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 01:45:08 +0400 To: pdftex@tug.org Cc: wl@gnu.org Subject: Re: undefined glyphs while preloading truetype fonts References: From: Vladimir Volovich Date: 12 Sep 1998 01:45:08 +0400 In-Reply-To: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz's message of "11 Sep 1998 22:10:08 +0200" Message-ID: Lines: 72 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070027 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.27) Emacs/20.3 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi! Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) writes: > > I used the ttf2tfm from freetype (contrib/ttf2pk). But i do not think > > it matters much. > > It does. TTF specs haven't any char named macros in 258 Mac Glyph > Names. I don't know why all of freetype programs have this. If you try > new version of pdfTeX you get: [skipped] > No warning, everything is fine (as I know). But no glyph `macron' in the font as well! :-) My point is: the glyph which looks like `macron' (and is macron) is *present* in the truetype font. Then, we should be able to access this glyph from pfdtex. If we use the name `macron' in the enc file *and* if the position in the TFM for this glyph is non-empty, then pdftex produces a warning about absent glyph (provided that TTF font did not include `macron' in the `post' table; note that MS's times.ttf does not contain `macron' record in a `post' table, but e.g. arialn.ttf and a number of other fonts do contain such a record; *all* these fonts contain a macron *glyph* regardless of the presence of `macron' in a `post' table). As i wrote in my first letter, the situation with macron is a bit complicated: there are two macron-like glyphs in most of ttf fonts: the first is 0x02C9 unicode, and the second is 0x00AF. The first is sometimes called `macron' in a post table (and sometimes a record for this glyph in post table contains a pointer to mac glyph #219), and the second glyph is in most cases called `overscore'. Then: is there a way to make pdftex `know' about the fact that the first glyph is macron, even if there is no record for it in a `post' table? Another note: there are a number of other `problemmatic' glyphs besides `macron' with the same problems: e.g., Germandbls. > Problem is that if you > have bad encoding of Mac Glyphs (as freetype has, and pdftex's ttf2afm > had) pdfTeX than looks for char macron (e.g.) and this glyph can not > be found :-( Please try it yourself. I'll be pleased be bugreports. Well, i thought that pdftex should `know' about some glyph names `implicitly'. > > The patch is for ttf2afm, --- a stand-alone utility. But will it > > change anything with pdftex's behavior? The point is: > > Well, as I sad we can not fix freetype things - if you 'd like to use > TT fonts, you should use The Correct Program (tm). I personally think, > that ttf2afm is it now :-) It does not solve the problem: it hides the problem. :-) > > * ttf file contained some glyph descriptions (e.g., macron) [either > > produced by ttf2tfm or by ttf2afm->afm2tfm (or fontinst)] > > Bad, TTF cannot contain macron - the specs says: overscore, not > macron. That's the point. oops, i meant TFM, not TTF :-) > > * the enc file contained the glyph name (e.g., macron) > > Bad enc file (macron doesn't is not in Mac Glyph Table = doesn't have > MacChar and MacIndes - see TTF Spec 1.0 page 146). Then a lot of enc files become bad: cork.enc, 8r.enc, etc. :-) They all contain a name `macron'. Best regards, Vladimir. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Sep 11 16:50:54 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA14228 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 16:50:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA04081 for pdftex-list; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 18:40:09 -0400 Received: from regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de (te@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de [130.75.26.7]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA04078 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 18:40:04 -0400 Received: (from te@localhost) by regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id AAA02207; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 00:39:39 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 00:39:39 +0200 (MET DST) From: Thomas Esser Message-Id: <199809112239.AAA02207@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de> To: davidr@crt.com Cc: pdftex@tug.org, teTeX pretest list Subject: Re: [TETEX-PRETEST] Problem compiling pdftex in teTeX-0.9-980911 prerelease on i386-next-nextstep3 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Using the teTeX-0.9-980911 prerelease on a i386-next-nextstep3 system > I ran configure using only the prefix flag. > > Configure was uneventful and build (using NeXT's cc (based on gcc 2.5.8)) was > clean until... > > c++ -g -DX_DISPLAY_MISSING=1 -DHAVE_SYS_DIR_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 > -DHAVE_POPEN=1 -I. -I. -c gfile.cc > gfile.cc: In function `class GString * getHomeDir()': > gfile.cc:83: warning: implicit declaration of function `int getuid(...)' > gfile.cc: In function `class GString * getCurrentDir()': > gfile.cc:101: warning: implicit declaration of function `int getcwd(...)' > gfile.cc: In method `GDirEntry::GDirEntry(char *, char *, int)': > gfile.cc:376: warning: implicit declaration of function `int S_ISDIR(...)' > > make[2]: Entering directory `/private/Net/truman/users/davidr/teTeX/texk/web2c' > ./../klibtool link cc -o pdftex pdftexini.o pdftex0.o pdftex1.o pdftex2.o > pdftexextra.o pdftexdir/libpdf.a pdftexdir/libpng/libpng.a > pdftexdir/zlib/libz.a pdftexdir/xpdf/xpdf/pdftoepdf.a > pdftexdir/xpdf/goo/libGoo.a lib/lib.a ../kpathsea/libkpathsea.la -lm > cc -o pdftex pdftexini.o pdftex0.o pdftex1.o pdftex2.o pdftexextra.o > pdftexdir/libpdf.a pdftexdir/libpng/libpng.a pdftexdir/zlib/libz.a > pdftexdir/xpdf/xpdf/pdftoepdf.a pdftexdir/xpdf/goo/libGoo.a lib/lib.a > ../kpathsea/STATIC/libkpathsea.a -lm > ld: Undefined symbols: > ___eh_pc > ___throw > _terminate__Fv > ___pure_virtual > ___rtti_si > ___rtti_user > _S_ISDIR > _getcwd > make[2]: *** [pdftex] Error 1 Well, unless I have made a serious mistake when integrating pdftex-0.12o-6 into the prerelease, this is a pdftex (or xpdf) problem. I hope that someone from the pdftex side can prepare a fix for that problem. (I quote your entire mail since I have added the pdftex list in the Cc: field). Thanks for testing the new prerelease and submitting this problem. Thomas From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Sep 11 19:10:11 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA17125 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 19:10:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA04495 for pdftex-list; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 21:01:52 -0400 Received: from nepenthe.eas.san-jose.ca.us (root@cronus-red.eas.san-jose.ca.us [199.173.156.244]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA04492 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 21:01:50 -0400 Received: from nepenthe.eas.san-jose.ca.us (estutes@cronus.eas.san-jose.ca.us [199.173.156.27]) by nepenthe.eas.san-jose.ca.us (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA05643; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:59:55 -0700 Message-Id: <199809120059.RAA05643@nepenthe.eas.san-jose.ca.us> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:59:51 -0700 (PDT) From: eas@eas.san-jose.ca.us Reply-To: estutes@eas.san-jose.ca.us Subject: Re: [TETEX-PRETEST] Problem compiling pdftex in teTeX-0.9-980911 pr erelease on i386-next-nextstep3 To: te@informatik.uni-hannover.de cc: davidr@crt.com, pdftex@tug.org, tetex-pretest@informatik.uni-hannover.de In-Reply-To: <199809112239.AAA02207@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk It looks to me like what this person needs is a newer compiler. Things like __throw and __rtti were not in g++ of the 2.5.8 vintage. getcwd is also a new function. So, I don't think this is either a teTeX problem or a pdftex problem. It is a get a new compiler problem. I feel a compiler of at least 2.8.0 is needed. I personally am using egcs-1.1b and have no problems at all compiling pdftex. =eas= On 12 Sep, Thomas Esser wrote: >> Using the teTeX-0.9-980911 prerelease on a i386-next-nextstep3 system >> I ran configure using only the prefix flag. >> >> Configure was uneventful and build (using NeXT's cc (based on gcc 2.5.8)) was >> clean until... >> >> c++ -g -DX_DISPLAY_MISSING=1 -DHAVE_SYS_DIR_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 >> -DHAVE_POPEN=1 -I. -I. -c gfile.cc >> gfile.cc: In function `class GString * getHomeDir()': >> gfile.cc:83: warning: implicit declaration of function `int getuid(...)' >> gfile.cc: In function `class GString * getCurrentDir()': >> gfile.cc:101: warning: implicit declaration of function `int getcwd(...)' >> gfile.cc: In method `GDirEntry::GDirEntry(char *, char *, int)': >> gfile.cc:376: warning: implicit declaration of function `int S_ISDIR(...)' >> >> make[2]: Entering directory `/private/Net/truman/users/davidr/teTeX/texk/web2c' >> ./../klibtool link cc -o pdftex pdftexini.o pdftex0.o pdftex1.o pdftex2.o >> pdftexextra.o pdftexdir/libpdf.a pdftexdir/libpng/libpng.a >> pdftexdir/zlib/libz.a pdftexdir/xpdf/xpdf/pdftoepdf.a >> pdftexdir/xpdf/goo/libGoo.a lib/lib.a ../kpathsea/libkpathsea.la -lm >> cc -o pdftex pdftexini.o pdftex0.o pdftex1.o pdftex2.o pdftexextra.o >> pdftexdir/libpdf.a pdftexdir/libpng/libpng.a pdftexdir/zlib/libz.a >> pdftexdir/xpdf/xpdf/pdftoepdf.a pdftexdir/xpdf/goo/libGoo.a lib/lib.a >> ../kpathsea/STATIC/libkpathsea.a -lm >> ld: Undefined symbols: >> ___eh_pc >> ___throw >> _terminate__Fv >> ___pure_virtual >> ___rtti_si >> ___rtti_user >> _S_ISDIR >> _getcwd >> make[2]: *** [pdftex] Error 1 > > Well, unless I have made a serious mistake when integrating pdftex-0.12o-6 > into the prerelease, this is a pdftex (or xpdf) problem. I hope that > someone from the pdftex side can prepare a fix for that problem. > > (I quote your entire mail since I have added the pdftex list in the > Cc: field). > > Thanks for testing the new prerelease and submitting this problem. > > Thomas From owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Fri Sep 11 19:25:31 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA17432 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 19:25:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA12798; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 18:52:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 18:48:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA12584; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 18:48:28 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980911164800.02213d10@ntmail.bctf.bc.ca> X-Sender: rgutter@ntmail.bctf.bc.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 16:48:00 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Richard Gutter Subject: [PDF] Embedding named destinations / pdfmarks Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== In order to enable URL references to specific pages within PDFs, can named destinations be embedded directly in a distilled PDF file (using, e.g., a hex editor) without reverting back to stuffing pdfmarks into the PostScript original? In other words, can I insert the equivalent of [/Dest/[name] /Page [x] /View [size] /DEST pdfmark directly in the PDF? (The code above is from http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/a17e.htm .) And if so, how? BTW, do named destinations work with any version of IE? (If you have a response, please copy it to me as well as sending it to the list, as I only get this list in digest form.) TIA Richard _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Sep 11 20:10:56 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA18268 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 20:10:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA04710 for pdftex-list; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 22:06:30 -0400 Received: from mailhost.cyberramp.net (root@mailhost.cyberramp.net [207.158.64.11]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA04707 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 22:06:29 -0400 Received: from fuzzylog.simple.dallas.tx.us (dal-tsa5-42.cyberramp.net [207.158.83.170]) by mailhost.cyberramp.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1/ler-980825-0832-PM) with ESMTP id VAA20909; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 21:06:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from scooby (scooby [192.168.1.3]) by fuzzylog.simple.dallas.tx.us (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA28544; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 21:05:58 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 21:05:57 -0500 (CDT) From: Bob Friesenhahn To: estutes@eas.san-jose.ca.us cc: te@informatik.uni-hannover.de, davidr@crt.com, pdftex@tug.org, tetex-pretest@informatik.uni-hannover.de Subject: Re: [TETEX-PRETEST] Problem compiling pdftex in teTeX-0.9-980911 pr erelease on i386-next-nextstep3 In-Reply-To: <199809120059.RAA05643@nepenthe.eas.san-jose.ca.us> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 11 Sep 1998 eas@eas.san-jose.ca.us wrote: > It looks to me like what this person needs is a newer compiler. Things > like __throw and __rtti were not in g++ of the 2.5.8 vintage. getcwd > is also a new function. So, I don't think this is either a teTeX > problem or a pdftex problem. It is a get a new compiler problem. > I feel a compiler of at least 2.8.0 is needed. I personally am using > egcs-1.1b and have no problems at all compiling pdftex. I doubt that this is the problem at all. In fact, this appears to be the result of using a gcc 2.8.1 compiler or later. Most likely this is the egcs compiler since C++ exceptions are enabled by default. The problem stems from using the C compiler to link rather than the C++ compiler. Note: -fexceptions Enable exception handling, and generate extra code needed to propagate exceptions. If you do not specify this option, GNU CC enables it by default for languages like C++ that normally require exception handling, and disabled for languages like C that do not normally require it. However, when compiling C code that needs to interoperate properly with exception handlers written in C++, you may need to enable this option. You may also wish to disable this option is you are compiling older C++ programs that don't use exception handling. So, the option is to add -fexceptions to the C compiler when linking C++ code or add the option -fno-exceptions when compiling the C++ code. Unless the C++ code actually uses exeptions, I recommend the latter. Bob > On 12 Sep, Thomas Esser wrote: > >> Using the teTeX-0.9-980911 prerelease on a i386-next-nextstep3 system > >> I ran configure using only the prefix flag. > >> > >> Configure was uneventful and build (using NeXT's cc (based on gcc 2.5.8)) was > >> clean until... > >> > >> c++ -g -DX_DISPLAY_MISSING=1 -DHAVE_SYS_DIR_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 > >> -DHAVE_POPEN=1 -I. -I. -c gfile.cc > >> gfile.cc: In function `class GString * getHomeDir()': > >> gfile.cc:83: warning: implicit declaration of function `int getuid(...)' > >> gfile.cc: In function `class GString * getCurrentDir()': > >> gfile.cc:101: warning: implicit declaration of function `int getcwd(...)' > >> gfile.cc: In method `GDirEntry::GDirEntry(char *, char *, int)': > >> gfile.cc:376: warning: implicit declaration of function `int S_ISDIR(...)' > >> > >> make[2]: Entering directory `/private/Net/truman/users/davidr/teTeX/texk/web2c' > >> ./../klibtool link cc -o pdftex pdftexini.o pdftex0.o pdftex1.o pdftex2.o > >> pdftexextra.o pdftexdir/libpdf.a pdftexdir/libpng/libpng.a > >> pdftexdir/zlib/libz.a pdftexdir/xpdf/xpdf/pdftoepdf.a > >> pdftexdir/xpdf/goo/libGoo.a lib/lib.a ../kpathsea/libkpathsea.la -lm > >> cc -o pdftex pdftexini.o pdftex0.o pdftex1.o pdftex2.o pdftexextra.o > >> pdftexdir/libpdf.a pdftexdir/libpng/libpng.a pdftexdir/zlib/libz.a > >> pdftexdir/xpdf/xpdf/pdftoepdf.a pdftexdir/xpdf/goo/libGoo.a lib/lib.a > >> ../kpathsea/STATIC/libkpathsea.a -lm > >> ld: Undefined symbols: > >> ___eh_pc > >> ___throw > >> _terminate__Fv > >> ___pure_virtual > >> ___rtti_si > >> ___rtti_user > >> _S_ISDIR > >> _getcwd > >> make[2]: *** [pdftex] Error 1 > > > > Well, unless I have made a serious mistake when integrating pdftex-0.12o-6 > > into the prerelease, this is a pdftex (or xpdf) problem. I hope that > > someone from the pdftex side can prepare a fix for that problem. > > > > (I quote your entire mail since I have added the pdftex list in the > > Cc: field). > > > > Thanks for testing the new prerelease and submitting this problem. > > > > Thomas > ====================================== Bob Friesenhahn bfriesen@simple.dallas.tx.us http://www.cyberramp.net/~bfriesen From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sat Sep 12 02:57:12 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA26383 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 02:57:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA05094 for pdftex-list; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 04:46:30 -0400 Received: from curnow.demon.co.uk (root@curnow.demon.co.uk [158.152.181.99]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA05091 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 04:46:27 -0400 Received: (from richard@localhost) by curnow.demon.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA02201; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 09:45:33 +0100 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Making changebar.sty work with pdfTeX From: Richard Curnow Date: 12 Sep 1998 09:45:32 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 18 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I have been trying to get changebar.sty to work with pdfTeX and have almost got it working. The patches for changebar.sty and pdftex.ch are to be found at http://www.curnow.demon.co.uk/pdftex The only remaining fault I know of is when a bar runs across a page boundary - the top of the bar on the second page is at the top of the page rather than at the top of the body text. Does anyone have an idea for how to fix this? Richard. -- Richard P. Curnow Stevenage, England From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sat Sep 12 09:30:45 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03265 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 09:30:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA05598 for pdftex-list; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:24:05 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA05595 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 11:24:02 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@dialup4.inet.cz [194.196.193.4]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id RAA24863; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 17:19:14 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA13250; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 13:30:01 +0200 To: Thomas Esser Cc: davidr@crt.com, pdftex@tug.org, teTeX pretest list Subject: Re: [TETEX-PRETEST] Problem compiling pdftex in teTeX-0.9-980911 prerelease on i386-next-nextstep3 References: <199809112239.AAA02207@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de> X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.122pre2 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicited e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicited e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 12 Sep 1998 13:29:51 +0200 In-Reply-To: Thomas Esser's message of Sat, 12 Sep 1998 00:39:39 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: Lines: 37 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: Thomas Esser Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 00:39:39 +0200 (MET DST) Hi, > > Using the teTeX-0.9-980911 prerelease on a i386-next-nextstep3 system > > I ran configure using only the prefix flag. well, I do not tested new prelease yet, but... > > c++ -g -DX_DISPLAY_MISSING=1 -DHAVE_SYS_DIR_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 > > -DHAVE_POPEN=1 -I. -I. -c gfile.cc ok, my cmdline here is: c++ -g -O2 -DHAVE_DIRENT_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_SELECT_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DHAVE_POPEN=1 -DHAVE_LIBXPM=1 -I. -c gfile.cc -o gfile.o but it doesn't matter. > > gfile.cc: In function `class GString * getHomeDir()': > > gfile.cc:83: warning: implicit declaration of function `int getuid(...)' > > gfile.cc: In function `class GString * getCurrentDir()': > > gfile.cc:101: warning: implicit declaration of function `int getcwd(...)' > > gfile.cc: In method `GDirEntry::GDirEntry(char *, char *, int)': > > gfile.cc:376: warning: implicit declaration of function `int S_ISDIR(...)' All these functions are defined in , do you have standard ANSI setup? > Well, unless I have made a serious mistake when integrating pdftex-0.12o-6 > into the prerelease, this is a pdftex (or xpdf) problem. I hope that > someone from the pdftex side can prepare a fix for that problem. I do not think that's your problem, Thomas. Thanks for notifying us. -- Pavel Janík ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sat Sep 12 18:12:04 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA13477 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 18:12:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA05949 for pdftex-list; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 20:05:21 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA05946 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 20:05:19 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@dialup1.inet.cz [194.196.193.1]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id CAA05853; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 02:00:37 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA20609; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 23:44:32 +0200 To: Vladimir Volovich CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: undefined glyphs while preloading truetype fonts References: X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.122pre2 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicited e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicited e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 12 Sep 1998 23:44:19 +0200 In-Reply-To: Vladimir Volovich's message of 12 Sep 1998 01:45:08 +0400 Message-ID: Lines: 28 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: Vladimir Volovich Date: 12 Sep 1998 01:45:08 +0400 Hi, > But no glyph `macron' in the font as well! :-) My point is: the glyph > which looks like `macron' (and is macron) is *present* in the truetype > font. Then, we should be able to access this glyph from pfdtex. If we I think the problem is deeper than we could see. Today I tried to read some Thanh's sources, but I've got a headache from it... I could not solve this myself until Thanh come back (hopefully soon). As I understand, pdfTeX can use only 256 glyphs from one TTF file (because of TFM) - so we should consider, which one... > Well, i thought that pdftex should `know' about some glyph names > `implicitly'. Yes, see writettf.c. We should correct it too. > It does not solve the problem: it hides the problem. :-) No, it corrects another one. But it's a question, what is the right solution. -- Pavel Janík ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sat Sep 12 18:12:11 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA13482 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 18:12:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA05944 for pdftex-list; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 20:05:13 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA05941 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 20:05:10 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@dialup1.inet.cz [194.196.193.1]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id CAA05829; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 02:00:22 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA20995; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 02:01:45 +0200 To: Sebastian Rahtz CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: pdfTeX-0.12o7-tiff4 (Was: Re: pdftex bug) References: <13816.59713.929000.48478@SRAHTZ> X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.122pre2 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicited e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicited e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 13 Sep 1998 02:01:33 +0200 In-Reply-To: Sebastian Rahtz's message of Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:11:29 +0100 ( `) Message-ID: Lines: 338 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: Sebastian Rahtz Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:11:29 +0100 Hi, > > I know that a. means to rewrite all parts of xpdf which are used by > > pdfTeX to C and it's hard and time consuming. So we should probably > > start with b. Or do you thing that we should depend on both compilers? > I think you'll have to make do with b). converting all of xpdf to use > plain C would just be so dull, you'd go mad :-) I know, but some long and cold nights, if you do not have to do something... > > 3. I'm 100% sure that I forgot something :-) > > > what would make me 100% happy would be use of the resolution > information in tiff files... Well, today I spent another hour waiting for my computer to pdftex Sebastian's picture gr2.tif, which has 1000x1000 resolution and final file is about 42M (I must add almost 60000 kB of swap files to finish this operation :-). Now it's done - see 0.12o7-tiff4. I do not think that it's usefull now for Sebastian, because we transorm all images (even b&w) to RGB colors, but we will see in the next version. Well, it's on my machine only, but here is the patch against plain o7: diff -urN pdftex-0.12o-7/Makefile.in pdftex-0.12o-7-tiff4/Makefile.in --- pdftex-0.12o-7/Makefile.in Thu Jul 30 15:32:06 1998 +++ pdftex-0.12o-7-tiff4/Makefile.in Fri Sep 11 23:53:43 1998 @@ -67,7 +67,7 @@ xpdflib = $(xpdfdir)/pdftoepdf.a xpdfextradir = $(srcdir)/pdftexdir/xpdf-0.7a/goo xpdfextralib = $(xpdfextradir)/libGoo.a -@PTEX@pdftexlibs = $(pdflib) $(pnglib) $(zlib) $(xpdflib) $(xpdfextralib) +@PTEX@pdftexlibs = $(pdflib) $(pnglib) $(zlib) $(xpdflib) $(xpdfextralib) -ltiff @PTEX@pdftexlibsdep = $(pdflib) @pdftexlibsdep@ $(xpdflib) $(xpdfextralib) # The sh script that does the conversion: diff -urN pdftex-0.12o-7/README pdftex-0.12o-7-tiff4/README --- pdftex-0.12o-7/README Fri Sep 4 23:33:24 1998 +++ pdftex-0.12o-7-tiff4/README Sat Sep 12 18:30:52 1998 @@ -1,6 +1,10 @@ -This directory contains pdftex-0.12o-7. This version is not approved by -pdfTeX's primary author (Han The Thanh) so we have different naming scheme. -Any suggestions to pdftug@tug.org or Pavel.Janik@inet.cz. +This directory contains pdftex-0.12o-7 with TIFF inclusion support. This +version is not approved by pdfTeX's primary author (Han The Thanh) so we +have different naming scheme. Any suggestions to pdftug@tug.org or +Pavel.Janik@inet.cz. + +PdfTeX's TIFF support is done by Sam Leffler's libtiff (see +http://www-mipl.jpl.nasa.gov/~ndr/tiff/). Warning: diff -urN pdftex-0.12o-7/pdftexdir/Makefile.in pdftex-0.12o-7-tiff4/pdftexdir/Makefile.in --- pdftex-0.12o-7/pdftexdir/Makefile.in Thu Jul 30 15:31:47 1998 +++ pdftex-0.12o-7-tiff4/pdftexdir/Makefile.in Fri Sep 11 23:53:43 1998 @@ -10,7 +10,7 @@ OBJS = mapfile.o papersiz.o utils.o config.o vfpacket.o pkin.o \ writefont.o writet1.o writet3.o writezip.o writeenc.o writettf.o \ -writejpg.o writepng.o writeimg.o +writejpg.o writepng.o writeimg.o writetiff.o all: libpdf.a ttf2afm diff -urN pdftex-0.12o-7/pdftexdir/image.h pdftex-0.12o-7-tiff4/pdftexdir/image.h --- pdftex-0.12o-7/pdftexdir/image.h Thu Sep 10 22:21:36 1998 +++ pdftex-0.12o-7-tiff4/pdftexdir/image.h Fri Sep 11 23:56:07 1998 @@ -15,11 +15,13 @@ #endif /* PNG_LIBPNG_VER < 10001 */ #include "jpg.h" +#include "tiffx.h" #define PDF_INFO(N) (N + image_tab)->image_struct.pdf #define PNG_PTR(N) (N + image_tab)->image_struct.png.png_ptr #define PNG_INFO(N) (N + image_tab)->image_struct.png.info_ptr #define JPG_INFO(N) (N + image_tab)->image_struct.jpg +#define TIFF_INFO(N) (N + image_tab)->image_struct.tiff #define IMG_TYPE(N) (N + image_tab)->image_type #define IMG_NAME(N) (N + image_tab)->image_name #define IMG_REFCOUNT(N) (N + image_tab)->ref_count @@ -27,6 +29,7 @@ #define IMAGE_TYPE_PDF 0 #define IMAGE_TYPE_PNG 1 #define IMAGE_TYPE_JPG 2 +#define IMAGE_TYPE_TIFF 3 typedef struct { png_structp png_ptr; @@ -47,6 +50,7 @@ pdf_image_struct *pdf; png_image_struct png; JPG_IMAGE_INFO *jpg; + TIFF_IMAGE_INFO *tiff; } image_struct; } image_entry; @@ -61,3 +65,5 @@ extern void write_png(integer, integer); extern integer read_jpg_info(integer); extern void write_jpg(integer, integer); +extern integer read_tiff_info(integer); +extern void write_tiff(integer, integer); diff -urN pdftex-0.12o-7/pdftexdir/pdftex.ch pdftex-0.12o-7-tiff4/pdftexdir/pdftex.ch --- pdftex-0.12o-7/pdftexdir/pdftex.ch Thu Sep 10 15:22:50 1998 +++ pdftex-0.12o-7-tiff4/pdftexdir/pdftex.ch Fri Sep 11 23:55:07 1998 @@ -33,7 +33,7 @@ @x [1.2] l.186 - This change is made for TeX 3.14159 @d banner=='This is TeX, Version 3.14159' {printed when \TeX\ starts} @y -@d banner=='This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-0.12o-7' {printed when \TeX\ starts} +@d banner=='This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-0.12o-7-tiff4' {printed when \TeX\ starts} @d pdftex_version=12 { \.{\\pdftexversion} } @d pdftex_revision=="o" { \.{\\pdftexrevision} } @z diff -urN pdftex-0.12o-7/pdftexdir/tiffx.h pdftex-0.12o-7-tiff4/pdftexdir/tiffx.h --- pdftex-0.12o-7/pdftexdir/tiffx.h Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970 +++ pdftex-0.12o-7-tiff4/pdftexdir/tiffx.h Fri Sep 11 23:53:43 1998 @@ -0,0 +1,37 @@ +/* This is header file for TIFF support of pdfTeX. */ + +#include +#include +#include + +/* TIFF_IMAGE_INFO is main structure for interchange of image data */ + +typedef struct { + unsigned int width, /* width of image in pixels */ + height, /* height of image in pixels */ + x_res, /* horizontal resolution in dpi, 0 if unknown */ + y_res, /* vertical resolution in dpi, 0 if unknown */ + color_space; /* used color space. */ + unsigned char bits_per_component; /* bits per component */ + unsigned long length; /* length of file/data */ + FILE *file; /* TIFF file */ + } TIFF_IMAGE_INFO; + + +/* Function tiff_read_image_info opens specified file and reads informations + * into TIFF_IMAGE_INFO structure. + * + * Return value: 0 - OK + * 1 - Cannot open file for read + */ + +int tiff_read_image_info(TIFF_IMAGE_INFO *image_info,char *file_name); + + +/* Function tiff_read_image reads specified number of bytes into specified + * buffer. + * + * Return value: number of read bytes.0 - OK + */ + +unsigned int tiff_read_file(TIFF_IMAGE_INFO *image_info,unsigned char *buf,unsigned int num_of_bytes); diff -urN pdftex-0.12o-7/pdftexdir/writeimg.c pdftex-0.12o-7-tiff4/pdftexdir/writeimg.c --- pdftex-0.12o-7/pdftexdir/writeimg.c Thu Sep 10 20:59:05 1998 +++ pdftex-0.12o-7-tiff4/pdftexdir/writeimg.c Sat Sep 12 18:27:01 1998 @@ -42,6 +42,9 @@ case IMAGE_TYPE_JPG: xfclose(JPG_INFO(img)->file, filename); break; + case IMAGE_TYPE_TIFF: + TIFFClose((TIFF *) TIFF_INFO(img)->file); + break; case IMAGE_TYPE_PDF: epdf_delete(img); break; @@ -61,6 +64,8 @@ return PNG_INFO(img)->width; case IMAGE_TYPE_JPG: return JPG_INFO(img)->width; + case IMAGE_TYPE_TIFF: + return TIFF_INFO(img)->width; case IMAGE_TYPE_PDF: return PDF_INFO(img)->bbox[2] - PDF_INFO(img)->bbox[0]; default: @@ -75,6 +80,8 @@ return PNG_INFO(img)->height; case IMAGE_TYPE_JPG: return JPG_INFO(img)->height; + case IMAGE_TYPE_TIFF: + return TIFF_INFO(img)->height; case IMAGE_TYPE_PDF: return PDF_INFO(img)->bbox[3] - PDF_INFO(img)->bbox[1]; default: @@ -92,6 +99,8 @@ return 0; case IMAGE_TYPE_JPG: return JPG_INFO(img)->x_res; + case IMAGE_TYPE_TIFF: + return TIFF_INFO(img)->x_res; case IMAGE_TYPE_PDF: return 0; default: @@ -109,6 +118,8 @@ return 0; case IMAGE_TYPE_JPG: return JPG_INFO(img)->y_res; + case IMAGE_TYPE_TIFF: + return TIFF_INFO(img)->y_res; case IMAGE_TYPE_PDF: return 0; default: @@ -123,6 +134,8 @@ return PNG_INFO(img)->color_type != PNG_COLOR_TYPE_GRAY; case IMAGE_TYPE_JPG: return JPG_INFO(img)->color_space != JPG_GRAY; + case IMAGE_TYPE_TIFF: + return 1; /* FIXME - always use RGB ColorSpace */ case IMAGE_TYPE_PDF: FAIL("`imagecolor' should not be called for PDF image"); default: @@ -164,6 +177,16 @@ } IMG_TYPE(img) = IMAGE_TYPE_JPG; } + else if (strcasecmp(strchr(filename, 0) - 4, ".tif") == 0) { + TIFF_INFO(img) = XTALLOC(1, TIFF_IMAGE_INFO); + switch (read_tiff_info(img)) { + case 0: + break; + default: + FAIL("reading TIFF image failed"); + } + IMG_TYPE(img) = IMAGE_TYPE_TIFF; + } else FAIL("unknown type of image"); return img; } @@ -178,6 +201,9 @@ break; case IMAGE_TYPE_JPG: write_jpg(n, img); + break; + case IMAGE_TYPE_TIFF: + write_tiff(n, img); break; case IMAGE_TYPE_PDF: write_epdf(n, img); diff -urN pdftex-0.12o-7/pdftexdir/writetiff.c pdftex-0.12o-7-tiff4/pdftexdir/writetiff.c --- pdftex-0.12o-7/pdftexdir/writetiff.c Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970 +++ pdftex-0.12o-7-tiff4/pdftexdir/writetiff.c Sat Sep 12 16:17:21 1998 @@ -0,0 +1,82 @@ + +/* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + * This is TIFF support to pdfTeX. + * ----------------------------------------------------------------------- + */ + +#include "libpdftex.h" +#include "image.h" + +/* Function tiff_read_image_info opens specified file and reads informations + * into TIFF_IMAGE_INFO structure. + * + * Return value: 0 - OK + * 1 - Cannot open file for read or not a TIFF file + */ + +integer read_tiff_info(integer img) +{ + TIFF_IMAGE_INFO *image_info = TIFF_INFO(img); + float xres=72.0, yres=72.0; /* default resolution */ + unsigned short units; + + image_info->file = (FILE *) TIFFOpen(IMG_NAME(img), FOPEN_RBIN_MODE); + + if (!image_info->file) + return 1; /* This is not a TIFF file */ + + image_info->x_res=image_info->y_res=0; + + TIFFGetField((TIFF *) image_info->file, TIFFTAG_IMAGELENGTH, &image_info->height); + TIFFGetField((TIFF *) image_info->file, TIFFTAG_IMAGEWIDTH, &image_info->width); + + TIFFGetField((TIFF *) image_info->file, TIFFTAG_XRESOLUTION, &xres); + TIFFGetField((TIFF *) image_info->file, TIFFTAG_YRESOLUTION, &yres); + TIFFGetField((TIFF *) image_info->file, TIFFTAG_RESOLUTIONUNIT, &units); + + switch (units) { + case RESUNIT_INCH: break; /* pixels per inch */ + case RESUNIT_CENTIMETER: xres*=2.54; yres*=2.54; + break; /* pixels per cm */ + case RESUNIT_NONE: xres=0;yres=0; break; /* no resolution */ + } + + image_info->x_res=xres; image_info->y_res=yres; + image_info->length=3*image_info->height*image_info->width; + image_info->color_space=0; + image_info->bits_per_component=8; + +return 0; +} + +void write_tiff(integer n, integer img) +{ + + long unsigned row, col; + unsigned long int *raster=(unsigned long int *) _TIFFmalloc(TIFF_INFO(img)->height*TIFF_INFO(img)->width*sizeof(unsigned long int)); + + pdfbegindict(n); + PDF_PRINTF("/Type /XObject\n/Subtype /Image\n/Width %li\n/Height %li\n/BitsPerComponent %li\n" AND + (long int)TIFF_INFO(img)->width AND + (long int)TIFF_INFO(img)->height AND + (long int)TIFF_INFO(img)->bits_per_component); + PDF_PRINTF("/ColorSpace /DeviceRGB\n"); + + TIFFReadRGBAImage((TIFF *) TIFF_INFO(img)->file, TIFF_INFO(img)->width, TIFF_INFO(img)->height, raster,0); + + pdfbeginstream(); + + for (row = 0; rowheight; row++) + for (col = 0; colwidth; col++) + { + if (pdfptr + 3 >= pdfbufsize) + pdfflush(); + + pdfbuf[pdfptr++] = TIFFGetR(*(raster+col+TIFF_INFO(img)->width*(TIFF_INFO(img)->height-1-row))); + pdfbuf[pdfptr++] = TIFFGetG(*(raster+col+TIFF_INFO(img)->width*(TIFF_INFO(img)->height-1-row))); + pdfbuf[pdfptr++] = TIFFGetB(*(raster+col+TIFF_INFO(img)->width*(TIFF_INFO(img)->height-1-row))); + } + + pdfflush(); + pdfendstream(); +} -- Pavel Janík ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sat Sep 12 18:33:42 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA13933 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 18:33:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA06112 for pdftex-list; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 20:28:06 -0400 Received: from cs.sfu.ca (cs.sfu.ca [142.58.111.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA06109 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 20:28:05 -0400 Received: from aldrington.ppp.cs.sfu.ca (melissa@rs2-annex4.sfu.ca [142.58.124.2]) by cs.sfu.ca (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA13496; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 17:27:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from melissa@localhost) by aldrington.ppp.cs.sfu.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA03099; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 17:27:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809130027.RAA03099@aldrington.ppp.cs.sfu.ca> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.2p1) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: "Melissa O'Neill" Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 17:27:30 -0700 To: pdftex@tug.org, teTeX pretest list Subject: Re: [TETEX-PRETEST] Problem compiling pdftex in teTeX-0.9-980911 prerelease on i386-next-nextstep3 cc: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) References: <199809112239.AAA02207@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk David Rebnord wrote: >>> gfile.cc: In function `class GString * getHomeDir()': >>> gfile.cc:83: warning: implicit declaration of function `int >>> getuid(...)' gfile.cc: In function `class GString * >>> getCurrentDir()': gfile.cc:101: warning: implicit declaration of >>> function `int getcwd(...)' gfile.cc: In method >>> `GDirEntry::GDirEntry(char *, char *, int)': gfile.cc:376: warning: >>> implicit declaration of function `int S_ISDIR(...)' ... and Pavel Janik ml replied: > All these functions are defined in , do you have standard > ANSI setup? The file has nothing to do with ANSI, it has to do with POSIX. Not every system teTeX compiles on is a POSIX system. That's one reason why the kpathsea library provides xgetcwd -- so you don't have to have conditional compilation on HAVE_GETWD and HAVE_GETCWD (and the requisite configure checks that define them). I suggest that pdftex be fixed ./configure checks for any POSIX dependencies and to use the file/directory facilities available in the kpathsea library whenever possible. Melissa. P.S. That said, anyone used to compiling free software under NEXTSTEP is pretty well used to these particular blindspots -- they're easy enough to work around. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sat Sep 12 19:14:59 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA14734 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 19:14:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA06375 for pdftex-list; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 21:09:46 -0400 Received: from cs.sfu.ca (cs.sfu.ca [142.58.111.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA06372 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 21:09:44 -0400 Received: from aldrington.ppp.cs.sfu.ca (melissa@rs2-annex4.sfu.ca [142.58.124.2]) by cs.sfu.ca (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA14682; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 18:09:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from melissa@localhost) by aldrington.ppp.cs.sfu.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA03632; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 18:09:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809130109.SAA03632@aldrington.ppp.cs.sfu.ca> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: <199809130027.RAA03099@aldrington.ppp.cs.sfu.ca> X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.2p1) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: "Melissa O'Neill" Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 18:09:30 -0700 To: pdftex@tug.org, teTeX pretest list Subject: Re: [TETEX-PRETEST] Problem compiling pdftex in teTeX-0.9-980911 prerelease on i386-next-nextstep3 References: <199809112239.AAA02207@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de> <199809130027.RAA03099@aldrington.ppp.cs.sfu.ca> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I've enclosed a patch for the bugs we've been discussing. It's more of a band-aid, since ideally these kinds of issues should be tested for by configure, which would then define the relevant flags. My patch just tests for whether we're compiling on NEXTSTEP or not. Nevertheless, it's a workable solution for now. Regards, Melissa. Enc. --- teTeX-0.9/texk/web2c/pdftexdir/xpdf-0.7a/goo/gfile.cc.orig Thu Jul 30 06:32:03 1998 +++ teTeX-0.9/texk/web2c/pdftexdir/xpdf-0.7a/goo/gfile.cc Sat Sep 12 18:03:40 1998 @@ -18,6 +18,14 @@ #include #include #include +#ifdef NeXT +#include +#include +extern "C" { +uid_t getuid(void); +char *getwd(char *); +} +#endif #include #include #include @@ -91,8 +99,13 @@ } GString *getCurrentDir() { +#ifndef NeXT char buf[PATH_MAX+1]; +#else + char buf[MAXPATHLEN]; +#endif +#ifndef NeXT #ifdef __EMX__ if (!_getcwd2(buf, sizeof(buf))) #elif WIN32 @@ -100,6 +113,9 @@ #else if (!getcwd(buf, sizeof(buf))) #endif +#else + if (!getwd(buf)) +#endif return new GString(); return new GString(buf); } @@ -302,7 +318,11 @@ #else //---------- Unix and OS/2+EMX ---------- struct passwd *pw; +#ifndef NeXT char buf[PATH_MAX+1]; +#else + char buf[MAXPATHLEN]; +#endif GString *s; char *p1, *p2; int n; @@ -334,7 +354,11 @@ } } } else if (!isAbsolutePath(path->getCString())) { +#ifndef NeXT if (getcwd(buf, sizeof(buf))) { +#else + if (getwd(buf)) { +#endif path->insert(0, '/'); path->insert(0, buf); } @@ -373,7 +397,11 @@ dir = (fa != 0xFFFFFFFF && (fa & FILE_ATTRIBUTE_DIRECTORY)); #else if (stat(s->getCString(), &st) == 0) +#ifndef NeXT dir = S_ISDIR(st.st_mode); +#else + dir = ((st.st_mode & S_IFMT) == S_IFDIR); +#endif #endif delete s; #endif From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sat Sep 12 20:17:10 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA15892 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 20:17:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA06590 for pdftex-list; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 22:15:39 -0400 Received: from frodo.avunet.de ([212.204.0.81]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA06587 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 22:15:37 -0400 Received: from avunet.de (max007.avunet.de [212.204.2.7]) by frodo.avunet.de (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA14718 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 04:15:34 +0100 Message-ID: <35FB2A46.DAAC0361@avunet.de> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 04:13:26 +0200 From: hilgenstock@AVU.de (Hilgenstock, Michael) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [de]C-NECCK (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: XObject missing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I'm in trouble including graphics. Conversion from eps to pdf containing only 7bit characters seems successfull with gs -sDEVIVE=pdfwrite -dASCII85EncodePages -dUseFlateCompression=false. The graphic file itsself is shown by Acrobat reader, but when displaying the file, I created with PDFTeX which contains it, Acrobat reader complains, it cannot find the XObject named "R6". It's all under windows BTW Thank You, Micha From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sun Sep 13 02:52:00 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA23376 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 02:51:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA07079 for pdftex-list; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 04:35:34 -0400 Received: from cc.vsu.ru (root@ns.vsu.relarn.ru [194.226.24.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA07076 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 04:35:22 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cc.vsu.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id MAA03524; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 12:32:17 +0400 Received: (from vvv@localhost) by vvv.vsu.ru (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA01705; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 12:32:05 +0400 To: pdftex@tug.org Cc: wl@gnu.org Subject: Re: undefined glyphs while preloading truetype fonts References: From: Vladimir Volovich Date: 13 Sep 1998 12:32:05 +0400 In-Reply-To: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz's message of "12 Sep 1998 23:44:19 +0200" Message-ID: Lines: 32 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070029 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.29) Emacs/20.3 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk "PJm" == Pavel Janik ml writes: >> It does not solve the problem: it hides the problem. :-) PJm> No, it corrects another one. But it's a question, what is the PJm> right solution. Yes, it corrects some problem of ttf2afm, --- a stand-alone utility, but pdftex itself needs to be corrected/extended as well (as you noted in your letter). But I'd like to say that imho ttf2afm in its current form still needs some extensions: in the current form, "ttf2afm file.ttf" only produces info about glyphs which are `named' in the `post' table. I would like it to produce info about *all* glyphs in the font (and i'd like pdftex to be able to access *all* glyphs in the ttf font, --- not only ones explicitly named in a `post' table, but also all glyphs from the `post' table)! An example of such inaccessible glyph is those macron in times.ttf. This glyph does not have a name `macron' in a post table in that font. Nevertheless, it is present in the font, and is "mac glyph #216". It is referenced in from the `cmap' table: unicode glyph 0x2c9 references exactly that glyph. Very important fact is that this glyph is *not* the same glyph as `overscore', which is named in a `post' table. I.e., it is not acceptable to make an alias `macron' -> `overscore'. This glyph should be accessible from pdftex (and info about this glyph should be produced by ttf2afm) e.g. by the name `.macglyph216' or as `macron', --- i do not know what is better, this needs some investigation. In short, i'd like to be able to access all glyphs in the font from pdftex (and from ttf2afm). Best regards, -- Vladimir. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sun Sep 13 04:07:37 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA24728 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 04:07:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA07286 for pdftex-list; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 06:02:45 -0400 Received: from mgate.uni-hannover.de (root@mgate.uni-hannover.de [130.75.2.3]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA07283 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 06:02:44 -0400 Received: from gauss.informatik.uni-hannover.de (actually h01.ts1.uni-hannover.de) by mgate.uni-hannover.de with LocalSMTP (PP) with ESMTP; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 12:02:23 +0200 Received: (from te@localhost) by gauss.informatik.uni-hannover.de (8.8.5/8.6.12) id MAA32114; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 12:04:34 +0200 Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 12:04:34 +0200 From: Thomas Esser Message-Id: <199809131004.MAA32114@gauss.informatik.uni-hannover.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: pdftex@tug.org, tetex-pretest@informatik.uni-hannover.de Subject: Re: [TETEX-PRETEST] Problem compiling pdftex in teTeX-0.9-980911 prerelease on i386-next-nextstep3 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > --- teTeX-0.9/texk/web2c/pdftexdir/xpdf-0.7a/goo/gfile.cc.orig Thu Jul 30 One can get around problems with getwd simply by #if 0 .... #endif the getCurrentDir function in gfile.cc. The getuid function is needed (indirectly) for "initParams(xpdfConfigFile);" (in xpdf/Params.cc). If reading an xpdfConfigFile is really necessary, one should change the implementation to use the kpathsea library for finding that file, I think. Thomas From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sun Sep 13 15:58:53 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07230 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 15:58:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA07899 for pdftex-list; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 17:45:48 -0400 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA07896 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 17:45:43 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.20.218]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA166F; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 23:44:18 +0200 Message-ID: <35F90D38.673AC40@wxs.nl> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:44:56 +0200 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sebastian Rahtz CC: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz, popineau@esemetz.ese-metz.fr, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex bug References: <13816.59713.929000.48478@SRAHTZ> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > 3. I'm 100% sure that I forgot something :-) > > > what would make me 100% happy would be use of the resolution > information in tiff files... When available, which is often not the case. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 14 00:19:27 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA17202 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 00:19:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA08357 for pdftex-list; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:11:57 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA08354 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:11:48 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@SnowWhite.inet.cz [194.196.192.9]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id IAA09883; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 08:06:59 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA01175; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 08:10:08 +0200 To: Hans Hagen CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex bug References: <13816.59713.929000.48478@SRAHTZ> <35F90D38.673AC40@wxs.nl> X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.122pre2 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicited e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicited e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 14 Sep 1998 08:09:57 +0200 In-Reply-To: Hans Hagen's message of Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:44:56 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 17 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: Hans Hagen Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:44:56 +0200 Hi, > > what would make me 100% happy would be use of the resolution > > information in tiff files... > > When available, which is often not the case. well, but most Sebastian's TIFF files have it :-)) Now he can do (oh, test only - now Sebastian will say: "I can not use it - I have b&w TIFF's" and I then should implement b&w :-) - pdfTeX-0.12o-7-tiff4 is on FTP sites. -- Pavel Janik ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 14 01:15:19 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA18257 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:15:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA08505 for pdftex-list; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 03:00:38 -0400 Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA08502 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 03:00:37 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.21.209]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA220; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:00:31 +0200 Message-ID: <35FC40BE.17804C6B@wxs.nl> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 00:01:34 +0200 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Sanders CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Cropping References: <19980911121202.B669@umich.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Michael Sanders wrote: > Is it possible to crop the margins of a document, if one has chosen the text > width and height for good viewing? The macro package you use has to deal with that. In context I say: \setupinteractionscreen[width=fit,height=fit] > The manual says: > > \pdfpagesattr{text} Indeed, there you should pass the cropbox, but the values depend on the layout. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 14 03:31:23 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA20913 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 03:31:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA08802 for pdftex-list; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 05:11:42 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA08799 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 05:11:40 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id KAA05733; hop 0; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 10:04:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 10:11:10 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13820.54421.369000.74099@SRAHTZ> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:32:21 +0100 ( `) To: aa056@chebucto.ns.ca Cc: DWaller1@csi.com, pdftex@tug.org Subject: RE: section numbers in pdf bookmarks In-Reply-To: References: <000001bddd59$e46e3ea0$3c640c7b@rd2> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk George White writes: > Are bookmarks used by reader to construct the outline view? If so, I do yes > not want to see the section numbers, mainly because the outline view > should be as compact as possible. In an outline view, the numbers are > redundant as you can easily count. There could be a use for numbers and > possible other information, however, in debugging -- I've had some > problems where the outline view was incorrect in some versions of acrobat > reader and not others! I have added an option "bookmarksnumbered" to hyperref which adds section numbers to outline entries, for them as want it as most people say they dont need the feature, i have not released this version yet, i'll wait for the next problem :-} sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 14 04:03:11 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA21509 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 04:03:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA08860 for pdftex-list; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 05:43:03 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA08857 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 05:43:01 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id KAA07031; hop 0; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 10:35:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 10:41:22 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13820.57507.867000.138267@SRAHTZ> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 10:23:47 +0100 ( `) To: zmola@campbellsci.com Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: importing graphics into pdflatex documents In-Reply-To: <19980911192023851.AAA234@carl_zmola> References: <19980910181822480.AAA96@carl_zmola> <19980911192023851.AAA234@carl_zmola> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Carl Zmola writes: > You make this sound so simple. I distilled a file, data.eps. Do any > special precautions need to be taken? Any special options? you need to transform the EPS file so that the page size is the same as the bounding box (Distiller does not do what you might expect). see http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/epstopdf.pl for a utility to do this > in my document I included a line. (do I need a special package?) > > \pdfliteral{\include{data.pdf}} golly. i'm amazed that works at all. you were lucky. thats not at all whats recommended. i'd prefer \usepackage[pdftex]{hyperref} ... \includegraphics{data.pdf} and let the graphics package take care of it. but > This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-0.12l (MiKTeX 1.11) this version of pdftex does not support proper PDF inclusion.... you need a later release Sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 14 04:04:55 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA21557 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 04:04:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA08892 for pdftex-list; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 05:51:10 -0400 Received: from frodo.avunet.de ([212.204.0.81]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA08889 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 05:51:08 -0400 Received: from avunet.de (max004.avunet.de [212.204.2.4]) by frodo.avunet.de (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA5757; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:51:02 +0100 Message-ID: <35FCE610.945AFAF5@avunet.de> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:46:56 +0200 From: hilgenstock@AVU.de (Hilgenstock, Michael) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [de]C-NECCK (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Pavel Janik ml." CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: XObject missing References: <35FB2A46.DAAC0361@avunet.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Pavel Janik ml. wrote: >> The graphic file itsself is shown by Acrobat reader, but when displaying >> the file, I created with PDFTeX which contains it, Acrobat reader >> complains, it cannot find the XObject named "R6". > > can you send us more info? Can you put your pdf on WWW? You can acces some more info and the relevant files via http://www.avu.de/Users/hilgenst/report.html Have a nice week, Michael From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 14 04:05:05 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA21577 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 04:05:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA08906 for pdftex-list; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 05:54:44 -0400 Received: from ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr (ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.232.33]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA08903 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 05:54:42 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA00404; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:54:37 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id MAA10772; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:06:30 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:06:30 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199809141006.MAA10772@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: undefined glyphs while preloading truetype fonts In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk » As I understand, pdfTeX can use only 256 glyphs from one TTF file » (because of TFM) - so we should consider, which one... this is not true, it can be broken in pieces and used from many different TFMs. This shows bugs of the reader, BTW. We discussed this at length with Thanh a while ago, you can look at test files remaining on ftp://fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr/pub/contrib-tex/pdftex/beta/cyberbit/ Thierry Bouche, Grenoble. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 14 04:43:03 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA22222 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 04:43:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA09175 for pdftex-list; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 06:29:30 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA09172 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 06:29:23 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@SnowWhite.inet.cz [194.196.192.9]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id MAA20499; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:24:29 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA01834; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:27:39 +0200 To: Thierry Bouche CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: undefined glyphs while preloading truetype fonts References: <199809141006.MAA10772@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.122pre2 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicited e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicited e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 14 Sep 1998 12:27:20 +0200 In-Reply-To: Thierry Bouche's message of Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:06:30 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: Lines: 16 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: Thierry Bouche Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:06:30 +0200 (MET DST) Hi, > t As I understand, pdfTeX can use only 256 glyphs from one TTF file > t (because of TFM) - so we should consider, which one... > > this is not true, it can be broken in pieces and used from many > different TFMs. Well, what I wanted to say is that from one TFM we can access only 256 chars. I know we can use more, but not directly. -- Pavel Janik ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 14 04:59:09 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA22542 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 04:59:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA09386 for pdftex-list; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 06:50:59 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA09382 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 06:50:57 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id LAA09523; hop 0; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:43:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:50:30 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13820.62293.472000.325456@SRAHTZ> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:43:33 +0100 ( `) To: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdfTeX-0.12o7-tiff4 (Was: Re: pdftex bug) In-Reply-To: References: <13816.59713.929000.48478@SRAHTZ> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Pavel Janik ml. writes: > Well, today I spent another hour waiting for my computer to pdftex > Sebastian's picture gr2.tif, which has 1000x1000 resolution and final > file is about 42M (I must add almost 60000 kB of swap files to finish > this operation :-). Now it's done - see 0.12o7-tiff4. I hate to be ungrateful, but I have this strange feeling that my users will object to waiting 1 hour per image.... > I do not think that it's usefull now for Sebastian, because we > transorm all images (even b&w) to RGB colors, but we will see in the > next version. that is, certainly, a fatal flaw! for us at least. our standard scan format is TIFF G4 for line art, and we have tens of thousands of the little monsters.... I'll have a play, anyway, many thanks for keeping on with it Sebastian PS I still think you can transform some TIFF files direct to PDF without unpacking and repacking.... From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 14 07:44:26 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA25802 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 07:44:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA09850 for pdftex-list; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:20:03 -0400 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA09847 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:20:01 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.21.203]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA104E; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:19:50 +0200 Message-ID: <35FCF336.75CD4C5B@wxs.nl> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:43:02 +0200 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sebastian Rahtz CC: zmola@campbellsci.com, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: importing graphics into pdflatex documents References: <19980910181822480.AAA96@carl_zmola> <19980911192023851.AAA234@carl_zmola> <13820.57507.867000.138267@SRAHTZ> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > \pdfliteral{\include{data.pdf}} > golly. i'm amazed that works at all. you were lucky. thats not at all > whats recommended. More than luck: magic! One big expansion ending up as literal pdf? Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 14 07:46:12 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA25863 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 07:46:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA09866 for pdftex-list; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:35:39 -0400 Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA09863 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:35:37 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.21.203]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA698D; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:35:22 +0200 Message-ID: <35FD1CEE.B99DB8E7@wxs.nl> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:41:02 +0200 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sebastian Rahtz CC: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdfTeX-0.12o7-tiff4 (Was: Re: pdftex bug) References: <13816.59713.929000.48478@SRAHTZ> <13820.62293.472000.325456@SRAHTZ> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > PS I still think you can transform some TIFF files direct to PDF > without unpacking and repacking.... There are too many tiff alternatives around and pdf (like ps) only supports a few. Here we just used a photoshop batch script to make pdf of our many large tiff's. Still slow (I wonder why), but faster than direct tif. (Somehow Photoshop fails after a few hundred conversions.) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 14 08:00:55 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA26161 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 08:00:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA09934 for pdftex-list; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:47:14 -0400 Received: from rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu (rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu [164.107.171.29]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA09931 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:47:13 -0400 Received: from gw2 (gw2.eng.ohio-state.edu [164.107.169.221]) by rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id JAA07330 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:47:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809141347.JAA07330@rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu> X-Sender: hubert@rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:42:00 -0400 To: pdftex@tug.org From: Chris Hubert Subject: Re:writet1.c patch In-Reply-To: <199809141312.JAA09828@tug.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi. I am currently using pdftex version 0.12l (from the beta 3 release of MikTeX) on a Pentium under Windows NT. Currently, my documents compile fine, and I can read the *.pdf files on any system I have tried (PCs, Macs, and SGIs under Irix 6.2). However, as yet I can only print the PDF files on a PC. (In other words, the reader hangs on both the Macs and the SGIs when printing my PDF files. I have checked and the latest version of the reader is installed on the Mac.) (I also notice that most PDFTeX documentation cannot print on the Macs or the SGIs I use.) I believe that this is due to the problem discussed by Tom Kavinsky. Unfortunately, I have not been able to confirm that his writet1.c patch corrects the problem, as I have been having some odd troubles with Microsoft's makefile program.) I was wondering if anyone could confirm that the problem he discusses is similar to the one I am having, and if the patch has been effective? Also, has this patch, or some other correction, been made in more recent versions of PDFTeX. >Here it is. Noe that t1_suffix will look for "for" >at the end of the line, not in the middle. thus, it >won't catch on a line like: > >dup 23 /Anafor put > >Tom > >=====================================================>============== >RCS file: RCS/writet1.c,v >retrieving revision 1.1 >retrieving revision 1.4 >diff -c -r1.1 -r1.4 >*** 1.1 1998/06/16 01:14:47 >--- 1.4 1998/07/21 00:42:51 >*************** >*** 461,467 **** > builtin_glyph_names[i] = notdef; > do { > T1_CHECK_EOF(); >! t1_getline(); > if (sscanf(t1_line, "dup %u%s put", &i, buf) == 2 && > *buf == '/' && pdfischarused(tex_font, i)) { > builtin_glyph_names[i] = xstrdup(buf + 1); /* skip the slash */ >--- 461,469 ---- > builtin_glyph_names[i] = notdef; > do { > T1_CHECK_EOF(); >! if (t1_suffix("for") { >! t1_putline(); >! } >> if (sscanf(t1_line, "dup %u%s put", &i, buf) == 2 && > *buf == '/' && pdfischarused(tex_font, i)) { > builtin_glyph_names[i] = xstrdup(buf + 1); /* skip the slash */ > > Chris Hubert Department of Mechanical Engineering The Ohio State University 206 West 18th Avenue Columbus, OH 43210-1107 (614) 292-2356 (Office) (614) 292-3163 (Fax) hubert@rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 14 08:03:17 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA26216 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 08:03:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA09942 for pdftex-list; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:47:54 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA09939 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:47:53 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id OAA16039; hop 0; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:40:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from screavie.elsevier.co.uk by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:47:20 +0100 Received: from lurgmhor.elsevier.co.uk (lurgmhor.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.7]) by screavie.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11361; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:47:18 +0100 (BST) Received: (from srahtz@localhost) by lurgmhor.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA21399; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:47:17 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:47:17 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199809141347.OAA21399@lurgmhor.elsevier.co.uk> From: Sebastian Rahtz To: pragma@wxs.nl Cc: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdfTeX-0.12o7-tiff4 (Was: Re: pdftex bug) In-Reply-To: <35FD1CEE.B99DB8E7@wxs.nl> References: <13816.59713.929000.48478@SRAHTZ> <13820.62293.472000.325456@SRAHTZ> <35FD1CEE.B99DB8E7@wxs.nl> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hans Hagen writes: > > PS I still think you can transform some TIFF files direct to PDF > > without unpacking and repacking.... > > There are too many tiff alternatives around and pdf (like ps) only > supports a few. but if pdfTeX supported some of the obvious TIFF types well, people who cared could switch to those types. > Here we just used a photoshop batch script to make pdf of our many large > tiff's. Still slow (I wonder why), but faster than direct tif. (Somehow > Photoshop fails after a few hundred conversions.) well, three problems from the point of view of my projects: a) we want a totally portable system. it may have to run under AIX, for instance. no Photoshop there. b) we want a system we can move around without licensing problems. Photoshop is not cheap enough to buy for everyone. c) disk space is cheap, we all know that. but not infinite. its tiresome to have to worry about intermediate files. Why do you make PDF files as opposed to PNG, by the way? I wonder which import is faster? sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 14 09:49:34 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29619 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:49:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA10576 for pdftex-list; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:32:34 -0400 Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA10573 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:32:32 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.20.18]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA5C6F; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:31:55 +0200 Message-ID: <35FD3443.414B68E9@wxs.nl> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:20:35 +0200 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sebastian Rahtz Subject: Re: pdfTeX-0.12o7-tiff4 (Was: Re: pdftex bug) References: <13816.59713.929000.48478@SRAHTZ> <13820.62293.472000.325456@SRAHTZ> <35FD1CEE.B99DB8E7@wxs.nl> <199809141347.OAA21399@lurgmhor.elsevier.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > but if pdfTeX supported some of the obvious TIFF types well, people > who cared could switch to those types. > > Why do you make PDF files as opposed to PNG, by the way? I wonder > which import is faster? Same problem as you have: when no resolution info is present, pdftex defaults to 72dpi while the figs are 300dpi. This means that one can never use the natural scale unless explict dimensions are known and specified. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 14 12:04:11 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03689 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:04:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA11013 for pdftex-list; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:57:59 -0400 Received: from mgate.uni-hannover.de (root@mgate.uni-hannover.de [130.75.2.3]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA11010 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:57:57 -0400 Received: from antares.informatik.uni-hannover.de by mgate.uni-hannover.de with LocalSMTP (PP) with ESMTP; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 19:34:30 +0200 Received: (from te@localhost) by antares.informatik.uni-hannover.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id TAA09551 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 19:34:15 +0200 Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 19:34:15 +0200 From: Thomas Esser Message-Id: <199809141734.TAA09551@antares.informatik.uni-hannover.de> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: bug in Makefile (compiling tie) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On one machine, I need to compile every object file with -mips3, otherwise the compiler produces code that does not run on that particular machine. The rules for tie don't use the CFLAGS value given at configure time. Thomas From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 14 12:10:27 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03853 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:10:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA11067 for pdftex-list; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:08:49 -0400 Received: from mgate.uni-hannover.de (root@mgate.uni-hannover.de [130.75.2.3]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA11064 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:08:45 -0400 Received: from antares.informatik.uni-hannover.de by mgate.uni-hannover.de with LocalSMTP (PP) with ESMTP; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 20:08:44 +0200 Received: (from te@localhost) by antares.informatik.uni-hannover.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id UAA09601 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 20:08:29 +0200 Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 20:08:29 +0200 From: Thomas Esser Message-Id: <199809141808.UAA09601@antares.informatik.uni-hannover.de> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: fix for pdftoepdf.cc Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On an SGI 6.5 machine using the system's C++ compiler, I get: /usr/bin/CC -g -DHAVE_DIRENT_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_SELECT_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DHAVE_BSTRING_H=1 -Dinline=__inline -DHAVE_POPEN=1 -DHAVE_LIBXPM=1 -I./../goo -I./../ltk -I./../.. -I./../../zlib -I. -I. -c pdftoepdf.cc "pdftoepdf.cc", line 139: error(1152): expression must be an lvalue or a function designator writeEPDF("%d 0 R", addNewRef(&obj->getRef())); This could be solved by the following fix: *** pdftoepdf.cc.orig Mon Sep 14 11:04:44 1998 --- pdftoepdf.cc Mon Sep 14 11:06:55 1998 *************** *** 136,142 **** pdfendstream(); } else if (obj->isRef()) { ! writeEPDF("%d 0 R", addNewRef(&obj->getRef())); } else { error(-1, "type <%s> cannot be copied", obj->getTypeName()); --- 136,143 ---- pdfendstream(); } else if (obj->isRef()) { ! Ref tmpref = obj->getRef(); ! writeEPDF("%d 0 R", addNewRef(&tmpref)); } else { error(-1, "type <%s> cannot be copied", obj->getTypeName()); Thomas From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 14 12:41:33 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04743 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:41:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA11247 for pdftex-list; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:36:09 -0400 Received: from kraken.apl.washington.edu (kraken76.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.25]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA11244 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:36:08 -0400 Received: from galiano (galiano.apl.washington.edu [128.95.97.152]) by kraken.apl.washington.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA25570 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:36:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809141836.LAA25570@kraken.apl.washington.edu> From: "Jody Klymak" To: Subject: PDFTeX FAQ - new maintainer... Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:38:42 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: <19980911192023851.AAA234@carl_zmola> Importance: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi All, Since I asked most of the questions in the FAQ, I felt I should help maintain it. Please send any FAQ entries to mailto:jklymak@apl.washington.edu with the word FAQ in the subject. once a week or so I will post an update. Pavel Janik's time will be better spent on more challenging matters! I am no expert on PDFTeX, so do not hesitate to correct any entries you feel are in error. Cheers, Jody *************************************************************** Jody Klymak APL/School of Oceanography, University of Washington jklymak@apl.washington.edu (206)-685-9080 http://www.ocean.washington.edu/people/grads/jklymak/Klymak.html > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdftex@tug.org [mailto:owner-pdftex@tug.org]On Behalf Of > Carl Zmola > Sent: Friday, September 11, 1998 6:18 AM > To: Sebastian Rahtz > Cc: pdftex@tug.org > Subject: Re: importing graphics into pdflatex documents > > > > From: Sebastian Rahtz > > > Carl Zmola writes: > > > > > > My company's software develpers myself included > > > have started using pdftex for documents. We currently > > > use xfig for drawing, but havn't been able to > > > get graphics to import well. > > why not? I'd expect you to export EPS, distill, include as PDF, and > > hey presto. > > > > You make this sound so simple. I distilled a file, data.eps. Do any > special precautions need to be taken? Any special options? > > in my document I included a line. (do I need a special package?) > > \pdfliteral{\include{data.pdf}} > > and run : > pdflatex dataproxy.tex > > the results are > ----------- > This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-0.12l (MiKTeX 1.11) > (pdftex.cfg) (dataproxy.tex > LaTeX2e <1998/06/01> > Babel and hyphenation patterns for english, german, loaded. > (article.cls > Document Class: article 1998/05/05 v1.3y Standard LaTeX document class > (size10.clo)) (graphics.sty (trig.sty) (graphics.cfg) (dvips.def)) > (dataproxy.aux) > ! Undefined control sequence. > \reserved@a ->\@nil > > l.68 \pdfliteral{\include{data.pdf} > } > ? q > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > data.eps printed ok (After adding a showpage to it). > data.pdf appears fine. > > suggestions? > > Carl > zmola@campbellsci.com > From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 14 12:54:41 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA05104 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:54:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA11395 for pdftex-list; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:48:14 -0400 Received: from kraken.apl.washington.edu (kraken97.apl.washington.edu [128.95.97.25]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA11392 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:48:13 -0400 Received: from galiano (galiano.apl.washington.edu [128.95.97.152]) by kraken.apl.washington.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA25748 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:48:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809141848.LAA25748@kraken.apl.washington.edu> From: "Jody Klymak" To: "Pdftex@Tug. Org" Subject: pdfTeX-FAQ v0.06 Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:50:50 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 Importance: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk % This is the pdfTeX FAQ. \title{ The pdfTeX FAQ } \version{ v0.06 } \author{ Pavel Jan\'{\i}k jr. } \author{ Jody M. Klymak } \lastmodification{ Mon Sep 14 1998 } \abstract{ This document is a preliminary version of pdfTeX's frequently asked questions (FAQ) and answers. If you can contribute to this document, please mail Jody Klymak or pdfTeX's mailing list . Including the key "FAQ" in the subject line of your contribution will help the FAQ maintainer stay organized. This document is in TeX syntax. The character set is ISO-8859-2. } \copyright{ This document is freely distributable. } \section{General}{ General } \subsection{TeX_and_PDF}{ TeX and PDF } \question{What_is_pdfTeX}{ What is pdfTeX? }{ pdfTeX is a variant of well known typesetting program of prof. Donald E. Knuth -- TeX. Output of Knuth's TeX is a file in DVI format. The difference between TeX and pdfTeX is that pdfTeX directly generates PDF. You can also create PDF with Adobe's Distiller program, using a DVI to PostScript program to create PS from TeX's DVI file. WARNING: pdfTeX is alpha software! } \question{What_is_TeX}{ What is TeX? }{ From `TeX -- The Program' by Donald E. Knuth: ``This is TeX, a document compiler intended to produce typesetting of high quality''. TeX is a batch oriented typesetting system. When we talk about TeX we mean the macro programming language as well as the program that interprets and executed this language. } \question{What_is_PDF} { What is PDF? This question is answered in Portable Document Format Reference Manual (http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/devrelations/PDFS/TN/PDFSPEC.PDF) on page 27. It can not be reproduced here because of the strange copyright reasons. Think of PDF as PostScript without programming constructs. A PDF file consists of graphical objects tight together in such a way that fast viewing is possible and incremental updates become possible. } \question{How_can_I_view_a_PDF_file}{ How can I view a PDF file? }{ [FIXME: some words about Acrobat Reader + its URL, about Xpdf and other PDF vievers] } \subsection{Authors}{ Authors } \question{Who_is_the_author_of_pdfTeX}{ Who is the author of pdfTeX? }{ Primary author of pdfTeX is Han The Thanh . [FIXME: in pdftex.ch there is also Petr Sojka and the current head (rector) of Masaryk's University - prof. Ji\v{r}\'{\i} Zlatu\v{s}ka.] } \section{Information}{ Information } \question{Where_can_I_find_pdfTeX}{ Where can I find pdfTeX? }{ [FIXME: ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/{janik,thanh}, daily mirror on ftp://ftp.inet.cz/pub/Mirrors/pdfTeX}] } \question{What_is_the_latest_version}{ What is the latest version? }{ The latest version of pdfTeX is pdfTeX-0.12n. This is the latest version of pdfTeX approved by Han The Thanh (for now). After this version the primary author (Han The Thanh) leaved Czech Republic and is away for about three or four months. When he comes back, he will continue on the pdfTeX's development. In the time Thanh is away the pdfTeX's maintainer is Pavel Jan\'{\i}k ml (he is also student of Masaryk's University). He releases bug-fixes to pdfTeX-0.12n as versions pdfTeX-0.12o-?, where `?' is a small number. The latest bug-fix release is pdfTeX-0.12o-6. } \question{Where_can_I_find_some_docs_about_pdfTeX}{ Where can I find some docs about pdfTeX? }{ An index for things pdfTeX related can be found at: http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/. In it you will find: The pdfTeX manual in PDF format http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftexman.pdf and HTML format at http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftexman.html The pdfTeX mailing list archives: http://tug.org/ListsArchives/pdftex/threads.html [FIXME: pdfTeX FAQ and the best documentation is in the source files...] } \question{Is_there_any_mailing_list_about_pdfTeX}{ Is there any mailing list about pdfTeX? }{ Yes, to subscribe send mail to mailto:majordomo@tug.org, and put the line: subscribe pdftex username@hostname in the body of the message, where username@hostname is your complete email address. } \question{Where_can_I_find_an_archive_of_pdfTeX_mailing_list}{ Where can I find an archive of pdfTeX mailing list? }{ An ftp site of the mailing list, arranged chronologicaly can be found at: ftp://ftp.tug.org/mail-archives/pdftex/ Daily mirror is also at ftp://ftp.inet.cz/pub/Mirrors/pdfTeX-MailArchive/ } \question{How_do_I_get_new_versions_of_this_FAQ}{ How do I get new versions of this FAQ? }{ This document is periodically posted to pdfTeX's mailing list. } \section{Installation}{ Installation } % some subsections for various OSes here \question{How_do_I_install_the_latest_version_of_pdfTeX}{ How do I install the latest version of pdfTeX? }{ [FIXME: see script Install and comment it!, add some URLS of web-*, web2c-*, ...] } \question{How_do_I_use_pdflatex}{ How do I use pdflatex (how to generate pdflatex.fmt)? }{ } \question{Why_use_pdflatex}{ Why use pdflatex vs (??? i.e. latex2html)? }{ } \question{How_do_I_compress_my_PDF_files}{ My do I compress my PDF files? }{ pdfTeX can compress its output. By default pdfTeX doesn't compress it's output though (exactly, it depends on your configuration). You can specify one of ten levels of compression: from 0 to 9 in the source file by tag \pdfcompresslevel: \pdfcompresslevel9 or in the configuration file (pdftex.cfg): compress_level 9 0 means no compression and 9 is the best (and the slowest) compression. } \question{What_can_I_do_with_this_pdftex.cfg_file}{ What can I do with this pdftex.cfg file? }{ } \section{Graphics}{ Graphics } \subsection{Graphics_in_general}{ Graphics in general } \question{How_do_I_include_pictures_in_pdfTeX}{ How do I include pictures in pdfTeX? }{ } \question{How_do_I_include_pictures_in_pdfLaTeX?} How do I include pictures in pdfLaTeX? }{ To include pictures in JPEG, PDF, PNG or MetaPost output format (.mps) use the following: %% First get http://tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def and replace %% the pdftex.def in your TeX tree (mine is at %% C:\TeX\share\texmf\tex\latex\graphics) %% In the preamble add \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} %% In the main document, immediately after \begin{document} \DeclareGraphicsExtensions{.jpg,.pdf,.mps,.png} %% To include a graphics file \includegraphics{filename_to_include} The package will then search for the filename with the above extensions if one isn't provided. With this package the image can also be scaled or cropped. This uses D. Carlisle's ``graphics'' package and is available on CTAN at /macros/latex/packages/graphics } \subsection{Vector_Formats}{ Vector Formats } \question{How_do_I_include_PDF_pictures}{ How do I include PDF pictures? }{ } \question{How_do_I_convert_an_EPS_figure_to_PDF}{ How do I convert an EPS figure to PDF? }{ You can use epstopdf (a Perl script which uses Ghostscript for conversion) at http://tug.org/applications/pdftex/epstopdf.pl or Distiller to do the work for you. [FIXME: add an example here] To use epstopdf, you need Perl 5. Usage of epstopdf is easy: epstopdf.pl myfile.eps converts your eps-graphic file myfile.eps to the file myfile.pdf. Valid options for epstopdf (v2.1) are: [FIXME] Change the line $GS="gs"; in this script to the name of your Ghostscript executable if it is different, e.g. $GS="gswin32c"; on a Win32 system. On some systems it is necessary to invoke Perl explicitly, e.g. with perl epstopdf.pl myfile.eps. } \subsection{Bitmap_Formats}{ Bitmap Formats } \question{How_do_I_include_TIFF_pictures}{ How do I include TIFF pictures? }{ } \subsection{Other_Graphics}{ Other Graphics } \question{How_can_I_use_MetaPost_in_pdfTeX}{ How can I use MetaPost in pdfTeX? }{ } \section{Miscellaneous}{ Miscellaneous } \question{What_is_this_kpathsea?}{ What is this kpathsea? }{ } \subsection{Hyperref}{ Hyperref } \question{What_is_hyperref}{ What is hyperref? }{ The hyperref package is a way of adding hyper-references to a LaTeX document. For instance, a reference to a figure in the text can be marked up with a hyper-link, allowing the user to jump to the figure without scrolling through a lot of text. [FIXME: but for now see the hyperref package documentation hyperref.dvi or manual.pdf] } \question{How_can_I_use_it}{ How can I use it? }{ [FIXME: but for now see the hyperref package documentation hyperref.dvi or manual.pdf] } \question{My_pdftex.cfg_says_to_use_A4...}{ My pdftex.cfg says to use A4 paper, but the document comes out in Letter format. }{ You certainly use hyperref. This package sets the page dimensions according to your settings in LaTeX. If you do not specify ``a4paper'' in your options to \documentclass, it assumes Letter paper and overrides the entries in your pdftex.cfg file. } \question{I_get_the_message...}{ I get the message: ``Warning (ext1): destination with the same identifier already exists!'' }{ You get this message if you use hyperref and have some page numbers more than once, e.g. when re-starting page numbering with each chapter or having an appendix. Circumvent this with \usepackage[pdftex,plainpages=false]{hyperref} or put plainpages=false into your hyperref.cfg. } \subsection{ConTeXt}{ ConTeXt } \question{What_is_ConTeXt}{ What is ConTeXt? }{ ConTeXt is a full featured macro package that has build in support for pdfTeX. More information can be found at http://www.ntg.nl/context (manuals, source code, examples). } \question{How_can_I_use_ConTeXt}{ How can I use ConTeXt? }{ } \section{Fonts_in_pdfTeX}{ Fonts in pdfTeX } \subsection{Fonts_in_general}{ Fonts in general } \question{What_kind_of_fonts_can_I_use}{ What kind of fonts can I use? }{ } \subsection{Type1_fonts}{ Type1 fonts } \question{How_do_I_use_Type1_fonts}{ How do I use Type1 fonts? }{ } \question{How_do_I_generate_TFM_files_for_Type1_fonts}{ How do I generate TFM files for Type1 fonts? }{ } \subsection{TrueType_fonts}{ TrueType fonts } \question{How_do_I_use_TrueType_fonts}{ How do I use TrueType fonts? }{ } \question{How_do_I_generate_TFM_files_for_TrueType_fonts} How do I generate TFM files for TrueType fonts? }{ } \subsection{pk_fonts}{ pk fonts } \question{How_do_I_use_pk_fonts}{ How do I use pk fonts? }{ } \question{Why_does_Acrobat_Reader_display_pk_fonts_so_bad}{ Why does Acrobat Reader display pk fonts so bad? }{ } \contributors{ Pavel Jan\'{\i}k jr. Jody Klymak Colin Marquardt David Waller } From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 14 12:58:46 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA05199 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 12:58:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA11422 for pdftex-list; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:53:57 -0400 Received: from mgate.uni-hannover.de (root@mgate.uni-hannover.de [130.75.2.3]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA11419 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:53:56 -0400 Received: from antares.informatik.uni-hannover.de by mgate.uni-hannover.de with LocalSMTP (PP) with ESMTP; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 20:53:58 +0200 Received: (from te@localhost) by antares.informatik.uni-hannover.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id UAA09709 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 20:53:41 +0200 Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 20:53:41 +0200 From: Thomas Esser Message-Id: <199809141853.UAA09709@antares.informatik.uni-hannover.de> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: linking pdftex on Irix 6.5 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I just want to tell you that linking pdftex with the C compiler does not work on Irix 6.5 (using the system's cc and CC). One has to use the C++ compiler to link, otherwise a few symbols are missing. I think that one cannot assume that a mixture of object files generated by a C compiler and by a C++ compiler can be linked by calling the C compiler. Does any C++ expert know if linking with a C++ compiler is a general solution to that problem? Thomas From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 14 13:17:33 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA05701 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:17:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA11628 for pdftex-list; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:10:41 -0400 Received: from csc-sun.math.utah.edu (root@csc-sun.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.2]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA11625 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:10:39 -0400 Received: from plot79.math.utah.edu (beebe@plot79.math.utah.edu [155.101.20.21]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA05536; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:10:36 -0600 (MDT) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Received: (from beebe@localhost) by plot79.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA05331; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:10:35 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:10:35 -0600 (MDT) To: pdftex@tug.org Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: linking pdftex on Irix 6.5 Message-ID: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Thomas Esser writes on Mon, 14 Sep 1998 20:53:41 +0200: >> I think that one cannot assume that a mixture of object files generated >> by a C compiler and by a C++ compiler can be linked by calling the C >> compiler. Does any C++ expert know if linking with a C++ compiler is >> a general solution to that problem? Yes, it is. Since C++ functions have names that include their argument types and return type, a C++ compiler is needed to link code that is a mixture of C++ and C object files; this holds for all platforms. If it is only a question of the linker finding the right libraries, you could run the C++ compiler with the -v option on many UNIX systems to find out which libraries are being used, and then run the C compiler, supplying those libraries. That solution, is however, neither general, nor worth the effort. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 14 13:55:19 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA06933 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:55:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA11986 for pdftex-list; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:50:22 -0400 Received: from regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de (te@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de [130.75.26.7]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA11973 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:49:40 -0400 Received: (from te@localhost) by regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id VAA08876 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 21:49:13 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 21:49:13 +0200 (MET DST) From: Thomas Esser Message-Id: <199809141949.VAA08876@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: -Dinline= wrong on Sparc/Solaris 2.5.1, SC 4.1 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, using the sparcworks compiler (C, C++) on our SUNs, I have got lots of multiply defined symbols when linking pdftex. I could solve this problem by removing -Dinline= from the CXXFLAGS. That -Dinline= comes via the AC_C_INLINE test into @DEFS@. Therefore, one cannot use @DEFS@ for defining CXXFLAGS, because -Dinline= confuses the C++ compiler. However, one does need some results from configure even for the C++ code. A solution is to let autoconf generate .h files from .in files and to use different .in files for C and C++. (And not to use @DEFS@ for CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS.) E.g. have #undef inline #undef HAVE_DIRENT_H .. in the c-auto.in file for C and #undef HAVE_DIRENT_H ... in the c++-auto.in file for C++. Then, let the .cc files include c++-auto.h and the .c files include c-auto.h. Sorry to bother you with all these compatibility issues, but I really want teTeX to be as portable as possible. That xpdf code seems to cause a lot of trouble. Thomas From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 14 14:02:58 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA07139 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:02:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA12143 for pdftex-list; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:00:58 -0400 Received: from regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de (te@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de [130.75.26.7]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA12140 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:00:56 -0400 Received: (from te@localhost) by regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id WAA08927; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 22:00:49 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 22:00:49 +0200 (MET DST) From: Thomas Esser Message-Id: <199809142000.WAA08927@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de> To: teTeX pretest list Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: [TETEX-PRETEST] Re: Can 't compile teTeX-beta with glibc-2.0.7pre6 or glibc-2.0.95 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > The real problem is that gcc/g++ is now mandatory if you want to compile > pdftex. Of course, I do not know what will happen with gcc-2.8 Well, I'd like to be teTeX as portable as possible. Some code needs an ANSI C compiler, so we can't hope to get success with old K&R compilers. The C++ stuff from pdftex is relatively new in teTeX, but if you have a problem with a modern system compiler: report it to tetex-pretest and to the pdftex list. The -Wall in pdftexdir/Makefile.in is a bug, of course. I finally had some success with Irix 6.5's native compilers and the sparcwork compiler 4.0 on Solaris 2.5.1, but that did not work out-of-the-box. In both cases, I had to link pdftex via the C++ compiler, not the C compiler (otherwise, several symbols remained unsolved). Does the same help with the problems on Nextstep (missing symbols related to exception handling)? Thomas From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 14 14:51:00 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA08681 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:50:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA12629 for pdftex-list; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:45:40 -0400 Received: from curnow.demon.co.uk (richard@curnow.demon.co.uk [158.152.181.99]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA12624 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:45:34 -0400 Received: (from richard@localhost) by curnow.demon.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA00170; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 21:45:21 +0100 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: changebar.sty and pdfTeX From: Richard Curnow Date: 14 Sep 1998 21:45:21 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 20 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Following my attempts last week, I realised over the weekend how I ought to have done it. The new method seems to work fine without any known faults and is a much cleaner implementation, with only minimal changes to changebar.sty this time. It can be downloaded from http://www.curnow.demon.co.uk/pdftex It is supplied as patches that can be applied to the source kit for pdfTeX version 0.12n and changebar.sty version 1995/11/30 2.2h. Enjoy! Richard -- Richard P. Curnow Stevenage, England From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 14 15:19:57 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09672 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:19:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA12764 for pdftex-list; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:12:26 -0400 Received: from kraken.apl.washington.edu (kraken76.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.25]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA12761 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:12:24 -0400 Received: from galiano (galiano.apl.washington.edu [128.95.97.152]) by kraken.apl.washington.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA28131; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:12:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809142112.OAA28131@kraken.apl.washington.edu> From: "Jody Klymak" To: , "Pdftex@Tug. Org" Subject: RE: pdfTeX-FAQ v0.06 Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:15:02 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: <19980914210346601.AAA230@carl_zmola> Importance: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi Carl (and others) The pdfTeX-FAQ is *not* a valid TeX file so you cannot run pdf(la)tex on it. It is structured so that some clever soul can easily make it valid, but I am not so clever (yet - I plan to work on it but I welcome anyone else to do it instead). Until its fixed, people are asked to read it as a text file and put up with the lack of formatting. Sorry for the confusion, Jody > I can't run pdflatex or pdftex on this directly. > Is there a package I need? > > Can you pdflatex it and make it available? > > I'm willing to help, but would like to be able to > compile it locally. > > Carl > > Carl > zmola@campbellsci.com > From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 14 15:47:28 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA10493 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:47:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA12943 for pdftex-list; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:44:27 -0400 Received: from lorraine.loria.fr (lorraine.loria.fr [152.81.1.17]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA12940 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:44:25 -0400 Received: from renaissance.loria.fr (renaissance.loria.fr [152.81.4.102]) by lorraine.loria.fr (8.8.7/8.8.7/8.8.7/JCG) with ESMTP id XAA26874; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 23:43:37 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Denis B. Roegel" Received: (from roegel@localhost) by renaissance.loria.fr (8.8.2/8.8.2) id XAA12367; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 23:43:36 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199809142143.XAA12367@renaissance.loria.fr> Subject: Re: changebar.sty and pdfTeX To: richard@curnow.demon.co.uk (Richard Curnow) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 23:43:36 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: from "Richard Curnow" at Sep 14, 98 09:45:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk `Richard Curnow' wrote > > > Following my attempts last week, I realised over the weekend how I > ought to have done it. The new method seems to work fine without any > known faults and is a much cleaner implementation, with only minimal > changes to changebar.sty this time. > > It can be downloaded from > > http://www.curnow.demon.co.uk/pdftex > > It is supplied as patches that can be applied to the source kit for > pdfTeX version 0.12n and changebar.sty version 1995/11/30 2.2h. > Thanks. Does this new changebar also work in non pdftex mode? Denis From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 14 18:14:54 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA14221 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 18:14:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA13203 for pdftex-list; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 20:11:13 -0400 Received: from kraken.apl.washington.edu (kraken76.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.25]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA13200 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 20:11:11 -0400 Received: from galiano (galiano.apl.washington.edu [128.95.97.152]) by kraken.apl.washington.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA00360 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:11:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809150011.RAA00360@kraken.apl.washington.edu> From: "Jody Klymak" To: "Pdftex@Tug. Org" Subject: pdfTeX-FAQ v0.07 Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:13:48 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 Importance: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Okay, I played around a little instead of working and created the following LaTeX file. Save as FAQ.tex and compile using: latex FAQ.tex or pdflatex FAQ.tex. Please forgive the horrible hacks to turn Pavel's format into a TeX document. If anyone has more elegant solutions I'll be happy to change my ways. I would also appreciate knowing where I can upload this, and perhaps the pdf and dvi versions of it. Cheers, Jody *************************************************************** Jody Klymak APL/School of Oceanography, University of Washington jklymak@apl.washington.edu (206)-685-9080 http://www.ocean.washington.edu/people/grads/jklymak/Klymak.html >>>>>> CUT HERE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> % This is the pdfTeX FAQ. % It should compile using % latex FAQNAME % or % pdflatex FAQNAME % \documentclass{article} % \pdfoutput=1 \begin{document} \newcommand{\question}[2]{\subsubsection{#2} \label{q:#1} } \newcommand{\sectionf}[2]{\section{#2} \label{sec:#1}} \newcommand{\subsectionf}[2]{\subsection{#2} \label{sec:#1}} % Note that questions can be referenced: \ref{q:TeX_and_PDF} % and sections by: \ref{sec:General} \title{ The pdfTeX FAQ \\ Version 0.07 } \author{ Maintained by: Jody M. Klymak \\{\texttt mailto:jklymak@apl.washington.edu} } \date{ Mon Sep 14 1998 } \maketitle \begin{abstract}{ This document is a preliminary version of pdfTeX's frequently asked questions (FAQ) and answers. If you can contribute to this document, please mail Jody Klymak \verb++ or pdfTeX's mailing list \verb++. Including the key \verb+FAQ+ in the subject line of your contribution will help the FAQ maintainer stay organized. This document is in TeX syntax. The character set is ISO-8859-2. } \end{abstract} \copyright{ This document is freely distributable. } \sectionf{General}{ General } \subsectionf{TeX_and_PDF}{ TeX and PDF } \question{What_is_pdfTeX}{ What is pdfTeX? }{ pdfTeX is a variant of well known typesetting program of prof. Donald E. Knuth -- TeX. Output of Knuth's TeX is a file in DVI format. The difference between TeX and pdfTeX is that pdfTeX directly generates PDF. You can also create PDF with Adobe's Distiller program, using a DVI to PostScript program to create PS from TeX's DVI file. WARNING: pdfTeX is alpha software! } \question{What_is_TeX}{ What is TeX? }{ From `TeX -- The Program' by Donald E. Knuth: ``This is TeX, a document compiler intended to produce typesetting of high quality''. TeX is a batch oriented typesetting system. When we talk about TeX we mean the macro programming language as well as the program that interprets and executed this language. } \question{What_is_PDF} { What is PDF? This question is answered in Portable Document Format Reference Manual \begin{verbatim} http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/devrelations/PDFS/TN/PDFSPEC.PDF \end{verbatim} on page 27. It can not be reproduced here because of the strange copyright reasons. Think of PDF as PostScript without programming constructs. A PDF file consists of graphical objects tight together in such a way that fast viewing is possible and incremental updates become possible. } \question{How_can_I_view_a_PDF_file}{ How can I view a PDF file? }{ [FIXME: some words about Acrobat Reader + its URL, about Xpdf and other PDF vievers] } \subsectionf{Authors}{ Authors } \question{Who_is_the_author_of_pdfTeX}{ Who is the author of pdfTeX? }{ Primary author of pdfTeX is Han The Thanh . [FIXME: in pdftex.ch there is also Petr Sojka and the current head (rector) of Masaryk's University - prof. Ji\v{r}\'{\i} Zlatu\v{s}ka.] } \sectionf{Information}{ Information } \question{Where_can_I_find_pdfTeX}{ Where can I find pdfTeX? }{ [FIXME: \begin{verbatim} ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/{janik,thanh} \end{verbatim} daily mirror on \begin{verbatim} ftp://ftp.inet.cz/pub/Mirrors/pdfTeX \end{verbatim} } \question{What_is_the_latest_version}{ What is the latest version? }{ The latest version of pdfTeX is pdfTeX-0.12n. This is the latest version of pdfTeX approved by Han The Thanh (for now). After this version the primary author (Han The Thanh) leaved Czech Republic and is away for about three or four months. When he comes back, he will continue on the pdfTeX's development. In the time Thanh is away the pdfTeX's maintainer is Pavel Jan\'{\i}k ml (he is also student of Masaryk's University). He releases bug-fixes to pdfTeX-0.12n as versions pdfTeX-0.12o-?, where `?' is a small number. The latest bug-fix release is pdfTeX-0.12o-6. } \question{Where_can_I_find_some_docs_about_pdfTeX}{ Where can I find some docs about pdfTeX? }{ An index for things pdfTeX related can be found at: \begin{verbatim} http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/ \end{verbatim} In it you will find: The pdfTeX manual in PDF format \begin{verbatim} http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftexman.pdf \end{verbatim} and HTML format at \begin{verbatim} http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftexman.html \end{verbatim} The pdfTeX mailing list archives: \begin{verbatim} http://tug.org/ListsArchives/pdftex/threads.html \end{verbatim} [FIXME: pdfTeX FAQ and the best documentation is in the source files...] } \question{Is_there_any_mailing_list_about_pdfTeX}{ Is there any mailing list about pdfTeX? }{ Yes, to subscribe send mail to mailto:majordomo@tug.org, and put the line: \begin{verbatim} subscribe pdftex username@hostname \end{verbatim} in the body of the message, where username@hostname is your complete email address. } \question{Where_can_I_find_an_archive_of_pdfTeX_mailing_list}{ Where can I find an archive of pdfTeX mailing list? }{ An ftp site of the mailing list, arranged chronologicaly can be found at: \begin{verbatim} ftp://ftp.tug.org/mail-archives/pdftex/ \end{verbatim} Daily mirror is also at \begin{verbatim} ftp://ftp.inet.cz/pub/Mirrors/pdfTeX-MailArchive/ \end{verbatim} } \question{How_do_I_get_new_versions_of_this_FAQ}{ How do I get new versions of this FAQ? }{ This document is periodically posted to pdfTeX's mailing list. } \sectionf{Installation}{ Installation } % some subsections for various OSes here \question{How_do_I_install_the_latest_version_of_pdfTeX}{ How do I install the latest version of pdfTeX? }{ [FIXME: see script Install and comment it!, add some URLS of web-*, web2c-*, ...] } \question{How_do_I_use_pdflatex}{ How do I use pdflatex (how to generate pdflatex.fmt)? }{ } \question{Why_use_pdflatex}{ Why use pdflatex vs (??? i.e. latex2html)? }{ } \question{How_do_I_compress_my_PDF_files}{ My do I compress my PDF files? }{ pdfTeX can compress its output. By default pdfTeX doesn't compress it's output though (exactly, it depends on your configuration). You can specify one of ten levels of compression: from 0 to 9 in the source file by the tag \verb+ \pdfcompresslevel+: \begin{verbatim} \pdfcompresslevel9 \end{verbatim} or in the configuration file (pdftex.cfg): \begin{verbatim} compress\_level 9 \end{verbatim} 0 means no compression and 9 is the best (and the slowest) compression. } \question{What_can_I_do_with_this_pdftex.cfg_file}{ What can I do with this pdftex.cfg file? }{ } \sectionf{Graphics}{ Graphics } \subsectionf{Graphics_in_general}{ Graphics in general } \question{How_do_I_include_pictures_in_pdfTeX}{ How do I include pictures in pdfTeX? }{ } \question{How_do_I_include_pictures_in_pdfLaTeX?}{ How do I include pictures in pdfLaTeX? }{ To include pictures in JPEG, PDF, PNG or MetaPost output format (.mps) use the following: First get \verb+http://tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def+ and replace the pdftex.def in your TeX tree (mine is at \verb+C:\TeX\share\texmf\tex\latex\graphics+) \begin{verbatim} %% In the preamble add \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} %% In the main document, immediately after \begin{document} \DeclareGraphicsExtensions{.jpg,.pdf,.mps,.png} %% To include a graphics file \includegraphics{filename_to_include} \end{verbatim} The package will then search for the filename with the above extensions if one isn't provided. With this package the image can also be scaled or cropped. This uses D. Carlisle's ``graphics'' package and is available on CTAN at \verb+/macros/latex/packages/graphics+ } \subsectionf{Vector_Formats}{ Vector Formats } \question{How_do_I_include_PDF_pictures}{ How do I include PDF pictures? }{ } \question{How_do_I_convert_an_EPS_figure_to_PDF}{ How do I convert an EPS figure to PDF? }{ You can use epstopdf (a Perl script which uses Ghostscript for conversion) at http://tug.org/applications/pdftex/epstopdf.pl or Distiller to do the work for you. [FIXME: add an example here] To use epstopdf, you need Perl 5. Usage of epstopdf is easy: \begin{verbatim} epstopdf.pl myfile.eps \end{verbatim} converts your eps-graphic file myfile.eps to the file myfile.pdf. Valid options for epstopdf (v2.1) are: [FIXME] Change the line \begin{verbatim} $GS="gs"; \end{verbatim} in this script to the name of your Ghostscript executable if it is different, e.g. \begin{verbatim} $GS="gswin32c"; \end{verbatim} on a Win32 system. On some systems it is necessary to invoke Perl explicitly, e.g. with \begin{verbatim} perl epstopdf.pl myfile.eps \end{verbatim} } \subsectionf{Bitmap_Formats}{ Bitmap Formats } \question{How_do_I_include_TIFF_pictures}{ How do I include TIFF pictures? }{ } \subsectionf{Other_Graphics}{ Other Graphics } \question{How_can_I_use_MetaPost_in_pdfTeX}{ How can I use MetaPost in pdfTeX? }{ } \sectionf{Miscellaneous}{ Miscellaneous } \question{What_is_this_kpathsea?}{ What is this kpathsea? }{ } \subsectionf{Hyperref}{ Hyperref } \question{What_is_hyperref}{ What is hyperref? }{ The hyperref package is a way of adding hyper-references to a LaTeX document. For instance, a reference to a figure in the text can be marked up with a hyper-link, allowing the user to jump to the figure without scrolling through a lot of text. [FIXME: but for now see the hyperref package documentation hyperref.dvi or manual.pdf] } \question{How_can_I_use_it}{ How can I use it? }{ [FIXME: but for now see the hyperref package documentation hyperref.dvi or manual.pdf] } \question{My_pdftex.cfg_says_to_use_A4...}{ My pdftex.cfg says to use A4 paper, but the document comes out in Letter format. }{ You certainly use hyperref. This package sets the page dimensions according to your settings in LaTeX. If you do not specify ``a4paper'' in your options to \verb+\documentclass+, it assumes Letter paper and overrides the entries in your pdftex.cfg file. } \question{I_get_the_message...}{ I get the message: ``Warning (ext1): destination with the same identifier already exists!'' }{ You get this message if you use hyperref and have some page numbers more than once, e.g. when re-starting page numbering with each chapter or having an appendix. Circumvent this with \begin{verbatim} \usepackage[pdftex,plainpages=false]{hyperref} \end{verbatim} or put \begin{verbatim} plainpages=false \end{verbatim} into your hyperref.cfg. } \subsectionf{ConTeXt}{ ConTeXt } \question{What_is_ConTeXt}{ What is ConTeXt? }{ ConTeXt is a full featured macro package that has build in support for pdfTeX. More information can be found at \verb+http://www.ntg.nl/context+ (manuals, source code, examples). } \question{How_can_I_use_ConTeXt}{ How can I use ConTeXt? }{ } \sectionf{Fonts_in_pdfTeX}{ Fonts in pdfTeX } \subsectionf{Fonts_in_general}{ Fonts in general } \question{What_kind_of_fonts_can_I_use}{ What kind of fonts can I use? }{ } \subsectionf{Type1_fonts}{ Type1 fonts } \question{How_do_I_use_Type1_fonts}{ How do I use Type1 fonts? }{ } \question{How_do_I_generate_TFM_files_for_Type1_fonts}{ How do I generate TFM files for Type1 fonts? }{ } \subsectionf{TrueType_fonts}{ TrueType fonts } \question{How_do_I_use_TrueType_fonts}{ How do I use TrueType fonts? }{ } \question{How_do_I_generate_TFM_files_for_TrueType_fonts}{ How do I generate TFM files for TrueType fonts? }{ } \subsectionf{pk_fonts}{ pk fonts } \question{How_do_I_use_pk_fonts}{ How do I use pk fonts? }{ } \question{Why_does_Acrobat_Reader_display_pk_fonts_so_bad}{ Why does Acrobat Reader display pk fonts so bad? }{ } \appendix \section{Contributors} \begin{itemize} \item Pavel Jan\'{\i}k jr. \verb+ + \item Jody Klymak \verb++ \item Colin Marquardt \verb+ + \item David Waller \verb+ + \end{itemize} \end{document} From "Nelson H. F. Beebe " Mon Sep 14 13:10:37 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from plot79.math.utah.edu (beebe@plot79.math.utah.edu [155.101.20.21]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA05536; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:10:36 -0600 (MDT) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Received: (from beebe@localhost) by plot79.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA05331; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:10:35 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:10:35 -0600 (MDT) To: pdftex@tug.org Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: linking pdftex on Irix 6.5 Message-ID: Thomas Esser writes on Mon, 14 Sep 1998 20:53:41 +0200: >> I think that one cannot assume that a mixture of object files generated >> by a C compiler and by a C++ compiler can be linked by calling the C >> compiler. Does any C++ expert know if linking with a C++ compiler is >> a general solution to that problem? Yes, it is. Since C++ functions have names that include their argument types and return type, a C++ compiler is needed to link code that is a mixture of C++ and C object files; this holds for all platforms. If it is only a question of the linker finding the right libraries, you could run the C++ compiler with the -v option on many UNIX systems to find out which libraries are being used, and then run the C compiler, supplying those libraries. That solution, is however, neither general, nor worth the effort. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Sep 15 01:07:44 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22921 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 01:07:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA13572 for pdftex-list; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 03:01:55 -0400 Received: from curnow.demon.co.uk (root@curnow.demon.co.uk [158.152.181.99]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA13569 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 03:01:52 -0400 Received: (from richard@localhost) by curnow.demon.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA01309; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 07:59:29 +0100 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: changebar.sty and pdfTeX References: <199809142143.XAA12367@renaissance.loria.fr> From: Richard Curnow Date: 15 Sep 1998 07:59:29 +0100 In-Reply-To: "Denis B. Roegel"'s message of Mon, 14 Sep 1998 23:43:36 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: Lines: 37 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 23:43:36 +0200 (MET DST), >>>>> "Denis" == Denis B Roegel >>>>> put fingers to keyboard and wrote thus: Denis> `Richard Curnow' wrote >> >> >> Following my attempts last week, I realised over the weekend how I >> ought to have done it. The new method seems to work fine without any >> known faults and is a much cleaner implementation, with only minimal >> changes to changebar.sty this time. >> >> It can be downloaded from >> >> http://www.curnow.demon.co.uk/pdftex >> >> It is supplied as patches that can be applied to the source kit for >> pdfTeX version 0.12n and changebar.sty version 1995/11/30 2.2h. >> Denis> Thanks. Does this new changebar also work in non pdftex mode? Yes. In this new version, the only changes to changebar.sty are to add a pdftex option (as well as the existing dvips etc), and to implement the driver for pdftex as a new branch in the case statement that switches amongst the drivers. In particular, none of the existing drivers or generic parts of the package have been modified. (All the clever stuff now goes on in the modifications to pdftex.ch + the new file changebar.c). Richard -- Richard P. Curnow Stevenage, England From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Sep 15 03:58:31 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA26198 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 03:58:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA13901 for pdftex-list; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 05:51:57 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA13898 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 05:51:56 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id KAA07404; hop 0; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:44:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:51:35 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13822.13560.224000.14520@SRAHTZ> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:35:52 +0100 ( `) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Thomas Esser fixes for pdftex-0.12o-6 In-Reply-To: <199809150033.UAA13308@tug.org> References: <199809150033.UAA13308@tug.org> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Thomas Esser writes > this set of patches fixes various problems (and updates zlib > to the latest version): > > - link pdftex with $(CXX) instead of $(CC) > - use c*-auto.h files instead of @DEFS@ (no -Dinline for C++) > - add VPATH to xpdf's Makefiles to allow compilation from outside > the source directory > - fix definition for xpdf{dir,lib} variables to allow compilation > from outside the source directory > - fix a C++ problem in pdftoepdf.cc (Irix's compiler did not like > the old code) > - remove hard-coded -Wall from pdftexdir/Makefile.in > - clean up the rule for building ttf2afm in pdftexdir/Makefile.in > - lots of cleanups in xpdf-0.7a/*/Makefile.in > but the message is too long for the mail censor. so see http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/te-fixes.tar.gz ace work, Thomas! Sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Sep 15 03:58:39 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA26202 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 03:58:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA13896 for pdftex-list; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 05:51:45 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA13893 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 05:51:44 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id KAA07378; hop 0; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:44:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:51:09 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13822.13012.948000.443832@SRAHTZ> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:26:44 +0100 ( `) To: jklymak@apl.washington.edu Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdfTeX-FAQ v0.07 In-Reply-To: <199809150011.RAA00360@kraken.apl.washington.edu> References: <199809150011.RAA00360@kraken.apl.washington.edu> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Jody Klymak writes: > I would also appreciate knowing where I can upload this, and perhaps the pdf > and dvi versions of it. > put them in /incoming on www.tug.org, mail me, and i'll move to http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Sep 15 06:33:19 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA29109 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 06:33:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA14313 for pdftex-list; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 08:28:15 -0400 Received: from earth.ox.ac.uk (darwin.earth.ox.ac.uk [163.1.22.6]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA14310 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 08:28:13 -0400 Received: from metropolis.earth.ox.ac.uk (metropolis [163.1.22.59]) by earth.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id NAA25804; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:27:55 +0100 (BST) From: Keith Refson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13822.23882.936311.555083@metropolis> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:27:54 +0100 (BST) To: pdftex@tug.org Cc: tetex-pretest@informatik.uni-hannover.de Subject: Search path for graphics inclusion X-Mailer: VM 6.62 under Emacs 20.3.1 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk How are you supposed to specify the path for PDF graphics inclusion in pdftex? I have a document which includes figures using the "graphics" package, whose figures are stored in subdirectory called "figures". I have set the environment variable "TEXINPUTS" to include this directory but when I run pdflatex the file inclusion failes with: [13] [14] (/home/eeyore_data/keith/moldy/src/figures/fig_skewstart.ftx Error: pdflatex (file fig_skewstart.pdf): cannot open image file (the .ftx file is \include'd latex source which contains the line \includegraphics{fig_skewstart} and the subdirectory "figures" does indeed contain "fig_skewstart.pdf". I'm using pdftex 0.12o-6 as supplied with tetex pretest 11/9/98 under Sun sparc solaris 2.6. Exactly the same case worked under pdftex 0.11. Keith Refson -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Email: Keith.Refson@ | Tel: +44 1865 272026 | Dr Keith Refson, | earth.ox.ac.uk | Fax: +44 1865 272072 | Dept of Earth Sciences | Spam: root@cyberpromo.com | Parks Road, Oxford OX1 3PR, UK| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Sep 15 07:19:43 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA00059 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 07:19:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA14420 for pdftex-list; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:00:07 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA14417 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:00:02 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@SnowWhite.inet.cz [194.196.192.9]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA32705 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:54:58 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA01597; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:58:06 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Thomas Esser fixes for pdftex-0.12o-6 References: <199809150033.UAA13308@tug.org> <13822.13560.224000.14520@SRAHTZ> X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.122pre2 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicited e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicited e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 15 Sep 1998 14:57:52 +0200 In-Reply-To: Sebastian Rahtz's message of Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:35:52 +0100 ( `) Message-ID: Lines: 12 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: Sebastian Rahtz Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:35:52 +0100 ( `) Hi, > but the message is too long for the mail censor. so see > http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/te-fixes.tar.gz Thanks Thomas, I've got it and will investigate tomorrow. -- Pavel Janík ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Sep 15 07:21:51 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA00104 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 07:21:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA14591 for pdftex-list; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:15:18 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA14588 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:15:17 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id OAA14728; hop 0; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:08:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:12:19 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13822.25779.44000.138088@SRAHTZ> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:59:31 +0100 ( `) To: Keith.Refson@earth.ox.ac.uk Cc: pdftex@tug.org, tetex-pretest@informatik.uni-hannover.de Subject: Re: Search path for graphics inclusion In-Reply-To: <13822.23882.936311.555083@metropolis> References: <13822.23882.936311.555083@metropolis> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Keith Refson writes: > How are you supposed to specify the path for PDF graphics inclusion in > pdftex? I have a document which includes figures using the weird, isnt it. its TEXPSHEADERS what I did was add this TEXPSHEADERS.pdflatex= .;$TEXMF/dvips//;$TEXMF/pdftex//;$TEXMF/tex//;$TEXMF/fonts/type1// to my texmf.cnf to make it search my local TeX tree. you need to add your ./figures to TEXPSHEADERS. Sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Sep 15 08:17:27 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA01312 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 08:17:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA15132 for pdftex-list; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:13:43 -0400 Received: from regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de (te@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de [130.75.26.7]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA15129 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:13:34 -0400 Received: (from te@localhost) by regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id QAA12835; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:13:27 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:13:27 +0200 (MET DST) From: Thomas Esser Message-Id: <199809151413.QAA12835@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de> To: pdftex@tug.org, teTeX pretest list Subject: 2 bugs in 980915 pretest Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, the teTeX-pretest of today has two serious bugs. Fixes: Remove the line #undef inline in file: texk/web2c/pdftexdir/xpdf-0.7a/c++-auto.in (not having the inline stuff there was the original intention in doing the configure stuff that way...) and (thanks to Thomas Gellekum) a fix for all make* scripts: *** texk/kpathsea/mktex.opt.orig Tue Sep 15 16:08:19 1998 --- texk/kpathsea/mktex.opt Tue Sep 15 16:08:36 1998 *************** *** 47,53 **** # still leave $TMPDIR current directory on its drive, in which case it # cannot be removed. trap 'cd /; cd "$KPSE_DOT"; test -f "$STDOUT" && cat "$STDOUT"; rm -rf "$TEMPDIR"; exit 0' \ ! 1 2 3 7 13 15 mkdir "$TEMPDIR" || exit 1 cd "$TEMPDIR" || exit 1 --- 47,53 ---- # still leave $TMPDIR current directory on its drive, in which case it # cannot be removed. trap 'cd /; cd "$KPSE_DOT"; test -f "$STDOUT" && cat "$STDOUT"; rm -rf "$TEMPDIR"; exit 0' \ ! 0 1 2 3 7 13 15 mkdir "$TEMPDIR" || exit 1 cd "$TEMPDIR" || exit 1 Thomas From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Sep 15 14:43:09 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11824 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:43:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA16500 for pdftex-list; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:38:59 -0400 Received: from mailman.campbellsci.com (mailman.campbellsci.com [207.201.118.3]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA16497 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:38:57 -0400 Received: from carl_zmola ([207.201.118.7]) by mailman.campbellsci.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with SMTP id AAA60 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:37:34 -0600 From: "Carl Zmola" To: pdftex@tug.org Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:34:51 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: compiling o6 on NT Reply-to: zmola@campbellsci.com Message-ID: <19980915203734338.AAA60@carl_zmola> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to compile pdftex o6 for MiKTeX I was doing ok until I ran into a lack of kpathsea header files. This is for write3. writezip also has problems. any other help would be appreciated. Has anyone compiled pdftex-o6 for nt? Should I be using web2c instead of miktex? Carl Carl zmola@campbellsci.com From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Sep 16 02:43:07 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA28082 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 02:43:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA17128 for pdftex-list; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:33:08 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA17125 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:33:06 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id JAA05294; hop 0; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:26:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:32:22 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13823.29988.982000.667256@SRAHTZ> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:21:56 +0100 ( `) To: zmola@campbellsci.com Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: compiling o6 on NT In-Reply-To: <19980915203734338.AAA60@carl_zmola> References: <19980915203734338.AAA60@carl_zmola> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Carl Zmola writes: > > Has anyone compiled pdftex-o6 for nt? > Should I be using web2c instead of miktex? > in a word, yes, unless you want to do more work. the pdftex distribution is predicated on kpathsea as it stands. you'll have to do more work to adapt it to non-kpathsea systems (of course MikTeX shows it is not that hard) sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Sep 16 03:12:08 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA28622 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:12:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA17250 for pdftex-list; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 05:06:46 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA17247 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 05:06:44 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id JAA06891; hop 0; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:59:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:06:18 +0100 Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:42:52 +0100 Message-ID: <21-Wed16Sep1998094252+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q) From: Sebastian Rahtz To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: pdfTeX FAQ Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I have put the FAQ maintained by Jody Klymak at http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/ Do please start telling people about this, and start contributing material to Jody! Sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Sep 16 12:52:05 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12041 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:52:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA18154 for pdftex-list; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:44:19 -0400 Received: from custos.foa.se (custos.foa.se [150.227.16.253]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA18151 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:44:17 -0400 Received: by custos.foa.se; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA05034; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 20:44:16 +0200 Received: from hobbe.lin.foa.se by mercur.foa.se (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/11Dec96-1251PM/sal/mek) id AA12999 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 20:44:15 +0200 Received: from arnljot.lin.foa.se by hobbe.lin.foa.se (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA03633; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 20:44:10 +0200 Received: from arnljot.lin.foa.se (chj@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arnljot.lin.foa.se (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA25374 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 20:45:05 +0200 Message-Id: <199809161845.UAA25374@arnljot.lin.foa.se> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 To: PDFTeX list Subject: Offset when printing PDF versus PS From: Christian Joensson FOA 72 X-Face: 2tQjSw>|IA680lA7r'G9Y[jfoS>tTPw4-B#mQo_C+{6>^DWZP`o.h; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:01:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA18200 for pdftex-list; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:56:03 -0400 Received: from custos.foa.se (custos.foa.se [150.227.16.253]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA18197 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:55:58 -0400 Received: by custos.foa.se; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA05118; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 20:55:57 +0200 Received: from hobbe.lin.foa.se by mercur.foa.se (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/11Dec96-1251PM/sal/mek) id AA11361 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 20:55:56 +0200 Received: from arnljot.lin.foa.se by hobbe.lin.foa.se (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA03961; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 20:55:51 +0200 Received: from arnljot.lin.foa.se (chj@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arnljot.lin.foa.se (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA25579 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 20:56:45 +0200 Message-Id: <199809161856.UAA25579@arnljot.lin.foa.se> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 To: PDFTeX list Subject: Re: Offset when printing PDF versus PS In-Reply-To: chj's message of Wed, 16 Sep 1998 20:45:02 +0200. From: Christian Joensson FOA 72 X-Face: 2tQjSw>|IA680lA7r'G9Y[jfoS>tTPw4-B#mQo_C+{6>^DWZP`o.h; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 16:34:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA18607 for pdftex-list; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:26:29 -0400 Received: from rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu (rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu [164.107.171.29]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA18604 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:26:28 -0400 Received: from gw2 (gw2.eng.ohio-state.edu [164.107.169.221]) by rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id SAA27596 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:26:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809162226.SAA27596@rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu> X-Sender: hubert@rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:21:10 -0400 To: pdftex@tug.org From: Chris Hubert Subject: Re: compiling o6 on NT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >I'm trying to compile pdftex o6 for MiKTeX >I was doing ok until I ran into a lack of kpathsea >header files. > >This is for write3. >writezip also has problems. > >any other help would be appreciated. > >Has anyone compiled pdftex-o6 for nt? >Should I be using web2c instead of miktex? > >Carl > >Carl >zmola@campbellsci.com > Carl-- Did you ever try this with web2c? Could you send a copy of the windows makefile you were using. I have been trying to do this myself, but am completely ignorant when it comes to makefiles, and beyond ignorant when it comes to makefiles under msvcpp. Thanks CHris Chris Hubert Department of Mechanical Engineering The Ohio State University 206 West 18th Avenue Columbus, OH 43210-1107 (614) 292-2356 (Office) (614) 292-3163 (Fax) hubert@rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Sep 16 18:49:56 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA20788 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:49:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA18818 for pdftex-list; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 20:42:07 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA18815 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 20:42:05 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@dialup1.inet.cz [194.196.193.1]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id CAA22481; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 02:37:00 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA03401; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:27:41 +0200 To: Thomas Esser Cc: teTeX pretest list , pdftex@tug.org Subject: pdfTeX and teTeX again (Re: [TETEX-PRETEST] Re: Can 't compile teTeX-beta ...) References: <199809142000.WAA08927@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de> X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.122pre3 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicited e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicited e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 16 Sep 1998 22:27:26 +0200 In-Reply-To: Thomas Esser's message of Mon, 14 Sep 1998 22:00:49 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: Lines: 32 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: Thomas Esser Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 22:00:49 +0200 (MET DST) Hi, > Well, I'd like to be teTeX as portable as possible. Some code needs an > ANSI C compiler, so we can't hope to get success with old K&R compilers. > The C++ stuff from pdftex is relatively new in teTeX, but if you have > a problem with a modern system compiler: report it to tetex-pretest and > to the pdftex list. I agree and would like to Thomas for his great work with incorporating pdfTeX into teTeX. If you discover some problem with pdfTeX, please let me know too. > The -Wall in pdftexdir/Makefile.in is a bug, of course. I finally had Well, I do not think so. -Wall let us know if there are some problems that compiler can warn us about. I agree, that this flag is not available on most compilers, but it should not be difficult to remove it :-) > cases, I had to link pdftex via the C++ compiler, not the C compiler > (otherwise, several symbols remained unsolved). Does the same help with > the problems on Nextstep (missing symbols related to exception handling)? I'm currently testing all of your patches (again - thanks for great work :-) and new version of pdfTeX will be (hopefully) available tomorrow evening. -- Pavel Janik ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Sep 17 00:05:25 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA27424 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 00:05:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA19081 for pdftex-list; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:58:43 -0400 Received: from regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de (te@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de [130.75.26.7]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA19078 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:58:41 -0400 Received: (from te@localhost) by regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id HAA20647; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 07:58:12 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 07:58:12 +0200 (MET DST) From: Thomas Esser Message-Id: <199809170558.HAA20647@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de> To: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz Cc: pdftex@tug.org, tetex-pretest@informatik.uni-hannover.de Subject: Re: pdfTeX and teTeX again (Re: [TETEX-PRETEST] Re: Can 't compile teTeX-beta ...) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > pdfTeX into teTeX. If you discover some problem with pdfTeX, please > let me know too. Sure, I'll do... > > The -Wall in pdftexdir/Makefile.in is a bug, of course. I finally had > > Well, I do not think so. -Wall let us know if there are some problems > that compiler can warn us about. I agree, that this flag is not > available on most compilers, but it should not be difficult to remove > it :-) I don't agree. Unless you find a way to let configure rurn on -Wall iff (i.e. if and only if, like we mathematicians say) GNU C is used. The software should compile without any change. Getting -Wall into CFLAGGS is just CFLAGS='-Wall -O -whatever' ./configure so whoever wants that flag can have it. No GNU software I know has -Wall in its Makefiles, even though that flag is that useful. I think you can even have -Wall more automatically by using a config.site file which is read by every GNU configure script. Once again: a hard-coded -Wall is a "no no no". > I'm currently testing all of your patches (again - thanks for great > work :-) and new version of pdfTeX will be (hopefully) available > tomorrow evening. Great. If downloading the latest teTeX sources is not too difficult, you should do that. That'll give you all the diffs I have applied. Thomas From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Sep 17 06:00:30 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA04169 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 06:00:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA19644 for pdftex-list; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 07:50:53 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA19641 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 07:50:47 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@dialup6.inet.cz [194.196.193.6]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA00532; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 13:45:54 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA28150; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 13:22:13 +0200 To: Thomas Esser Cc: pdftex@tug.org, tetex-pretest@informatik.uni-hannover.de Subject: Re: pdfTeX and teTeX again (Re: [TETEX-PRETEST] Re: Can 't compile teTeX-beta ...) References: <199809170558.HAA20647@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de> X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.122pre2 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicited e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicited e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 17 Sep 1998 13:22:04 +0200 In-Reply-To: Thomas Esser's message of Thu, 17 Sep 1998 07:58:12 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: Lines: 20 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: Thomas Esser Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 07:58:12 +0200 (MET DST) Hi, > No GNU software I know has -Wall in its Makefiles, even though that flag > is that useful. ok, changed too in my tree. > Great. If downloading the latest teTeX sources is not too difficult, you > should do that. That'll give you all the diffs I have applied. No downloading tetex-beta is not too hard for me - I have daily mirror on my workstation at work. The only problem is that my PC is tooooooooo slow and full recompile of tetex-beta takes about 1 hour. (BTW - I study math too ;-) -- Pavel Janik ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Sep 17 10:56:33 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11392 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:56:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA20559 for pdftex-list; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 12:46:35 -0400 Received: from kraken.apl.washington.edu (kraken97.apl.washington.edu [128.95.97.25]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA20556 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 12:46:33 -0400 Received: from galiano (galiano.apl.washington.edu [128.95.97.152]) by kraken.apl.washington.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA05494 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:46:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809171646.JAA05494@kraken.apl.washington.edu> From: "Jody Klymak" To: "Pdftex@Tug. Org" Subject: pdfTeX-FAQ v0.08 Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:49:15 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: <13824.53442.207000.317037@SRAHTZ> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, An improved version of the FAQ (0.08) is at: http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdfTeX-FAQ.pdf http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdfTeX-FAQ.dvi http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdfTeX-FAQ.tex The major improvement is that the PDF version has hyper-links to most of the files discussed in the FAQ. The is implemented using a command in the source called \pathf. If you submit a FAQ and have URLs or email addresses you can help me a bit by referencing them like: \pathf{http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdfTeX-FAQ.pdf} or \pathf{mailto:jklymak@apl.washington.edu} One note/request: I have made a mess of pdfTeX-FAQ.tex. Its now pretty hard to read as an ASCII file. This is mostly because my version of AucTeX (for emacs) has a non-hierarchal method of indenting and formatting. If someone has a good prettify program for the FAQ.tex then I'd love to hear about it. I prefer the PDF document, but some folks are going to want the TeX source. Send in those FAQ and answers! I'll probably try and post an update once every couple of weeks. Thanks! Jody *************************************************************** Jody Klymak APL/School of Oceanography, University of Washington mailto:jklymak@apl.washington.edu (206)-685-9080 http://www.ocean.washington.edu/people/grads/jklymak/Klymak.html From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Sep 17 11:07:26 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11702 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 11:07:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA20597 for pdftex-list; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 12:59:58 -0400 Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.51]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA20594 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 12:59:57 -0400 Received: from infovore (root@infovore.xs4all.nl [194.109.13.254]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA29427; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:59:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: by infovore id m0zJczv-000clUC (Debian Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #2); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:17:19 +0200 (NST) To: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Cc: Thomas Esser , teTeX pretest list , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdfTeX and teTeX again (Re: [TETEX-PRETEST] Re: Can 't compile teTeX-beta ...) References: <199809142000.WAA08927@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Olaf Weber Date: 17 Sep 1998 14:17:18 +0200 In-Reply-To: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz's message of "16 Sep 1998 22:27:26 +0200" Message-ID: <87iuinrl0x.fsf@infovore.xs4all.nl> Lines: 13 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Pavel Janik ml writes: >> The -Wall in pdftexdir/Makefile.in is a bug, of course. I finally had > Well, I do not think so. Yes it is. It prevents out of the box compilation on systems that don't use gcc/g++. Of course, you might choose to let it only be activated if --enable-maintainer-mode has been given. The web2c makefiles contain several examples of this kind of code. -- Olaf Weber From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Sep 17 12:49:56 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA14472 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 12:49:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA20969 for pdftex-list; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:44:40 -0400 Received: from mailman.campbellsci.com (mailman.campbellsci.com [207.201.118.3]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA20966 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:44:38 -0400 Received: from carl_zmola ([207.201.118.7]) by mailman.campbellsci.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with SMTP id AAA230 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 12:43:37 -0600 From: "Carl Zmola" To: pdftex@tug.org Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 12:40:21 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: compiling o6 on NT Reply-to: zmola@campbellsci.com In-reply-to: <13823.29988.982000.667256@SRAHTZ> References: <19980915203734338.AAA60@carl_zmola> Message-ID: <19980917184336751.AAA230@carl_zmola> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Sebastian Rahtz writes: > Carl Zmola writes: > > > > Has anyone compiled pdftex-o6 for nt? > > Should I be using web2c instead of miktex? > > > in a word, yes, unless you want to do more work. the pdftex > distribution is predicated on kpathsea as it stands. you'll have to do > more work to adapt it to non-kpathsea systems (of course MikTeX shows > it is not that hard) Can someone help me get set up to with a working Windows NT TeX system that will compile pdftex. I'm using MiKTeX now, so I will be starting from scratch. Carl Carl zmola@campbellsci.com From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Sep 17 17:07:33 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA21069 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:07:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA21439 for pdftex-list; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 19:02:16 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA21436 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 19:02:13 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@dialup8.inet.cz [194.196.193.8]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id AAA30886 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 00:57:22 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA12419; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 00:59:17 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: MetaPost, PK fonts and Acroread X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.122 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicited e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicited e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 18 Sep 1998 00:59:03 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 39 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, in the time of recompiling pdfTeX-0.12o-8 I tried to see how pdfTeX can handle MetaPost output. After some small (and easy) examples I try this: %test.mp beginfig(1); draw (10cm,10cm)--(15cm, 15cm); label.top("example", (12.5cm, 12.5cm)); endfig; beginfig(2); defaultfont:="Helvetica"; draw (10cm,10cm)--(15cm, 15cm); label.top("example", (12.5cm, 12.5cm)); endfig; end; TeX source: %test.tex \nopagenumbers \input supp-pdf \convertMPtoPDF {test.1}{1}{1}\convertMPtoPDF {test.2}{1}{1}\bye then: mpost test; pdftex test First figure uses cmr10 in PK form and second /Helvetica built in Acroread. If you try it yourself you can see how Acroread handles PK fonts... What do you thing about it (look closely at line crossing the word)? (pdfTeX-0.12o-8 ;-), Linux, Acrobat Reader 3.0). I can say, that I expected different result (to be more precise - the same result in 1st and 2nd figure except different font). -- Pavel Janik ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Sep 17 17:12:49 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA21193 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:12:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA21479 for pdftex-list; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 19:08:07 -0400 Received: from esemetz.ese-metz.fr (root@esemetz.ese-metz.fr [193.48.224.212]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA21476 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 19:08:06 -0400 Received: from HAL9000.ese-metz.fr (ppp3.ese-metz.fr [193.48.224.223]) by esemetz.ese-metz.fr (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA06042; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:08:01 +0200 Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:08:01 +0200 Message-Id: <199809172308.BAA06042@esemetz.ese-metz.fr> From: Fabrice POPINEAU To: jklymak@apl.washington.edu CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: dvi2tty? Reply-to: popineau@esemetz.ese-metz.fr Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sure, it is with the latest web2c-win32. I will send it to you tomorrow morning from my office. Fabrice From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Sep 17 15:36:09 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18853 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:36:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA21220 for pdftex-list; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:28:47 -0400 Received: from kraken.apl.washington.edu (kraken97.apl.washington.edu [128.95.97.25]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA21217 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:28:45 -0400 Received: from galiano (galiano.apl.washington.edu [128.95.97.152]) by kraken.apl.washington.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA10996; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:25:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809172125.OAA10996@kraken.apl.washington.edu> From: "Jody Klymak" To: , "Pdftex@Tug. Org" Subject: dvi2tty? Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:28:07 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: <199809172030.NAA01536@nepenthe.eas.san-jose.ca.us> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, A couple of people suggested I try dvi2tty or something similar to convert the FAQ to ASCII (then I can make the *.tex file as messy as I please). Let me rephrase my request a bit. I need something I can run on a win32 system. If anyone has a dvi2tty execuatable that'll run on my machine, I'd love to try it. Or any other solution that does not involve me running a compiler ;-) Thanks Jody PS I don't fear compilers, they fear me, and always seem to get nervous and do funny things when I am around. *************************************************************** Jody Klymak APL/School of Oceanography, University of Washington jklymak@apl.washington.edu (206)-685-9080 http://www.ocean.washington.edu/people/grads/jklymak/Klymak.html > Might I suggest that you get a copy of dvi2tty and just let it make an > ascii copy of the output for for you. I convert my resume from dvi to > ascii all the time this way. I am not sure what the extra pdf commands > will do, but I think it is worth a try. > > =eas= > -- > earl.stutes@eas.san-jose.ca.us > 5156 Elrose Avenue phone > (408) 448.1089 > San Jose, CA 95124 fax > (408) 448.7864 > From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Sep 18 02:38:54 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03847 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 02:38:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA22083 for pdftex-list; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 04:27:33 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA22080 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 04:27:30 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id JAA08544; hop 0; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 09:20:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 09:26:51 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13826.5196.532000.186749@SRAHTZ> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 09:05:32 +0100 ( `) To: jklymak@apl.washington.edu Cc: eas@eas.san-jose.ca.us, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: dvi2tty? In-Reply-To: <199809172125.OAA10996@kraken.apl.washington.edu> References: <199809172030.NAA01536@nepenthe.eas.san-jose.ca.us> <199809172125.OAA10996@kraken.apl.washington.edu> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I think that investing in TeX to HTML would be more useful. who wants plain ASCII anyway? sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Sep 18 04:16:16 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA05688 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 04:16:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA22257 for pdftex-list; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 06:07:27 -0400 Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA22254 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 06:07:26 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.20.171]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA2F35; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:07:20 +0200 Message-ID: <360203EC.57F1C0E6@wxs.nl> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 08:55:40 +0200 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Pavel Janik ml." CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: MetaPost, PK fonts and Acroread References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Pavel Janik ml. wrote: > First figure uses cmr10 in PK form and second /Helvetica built in > Acroread. If you try it yourself you can see how Acroread handles PK > fonts... What do you thing about it (look closely at line crossing the > word)? (pdfTeX-0.12o-8 ;-), Linux, Acrobat Reader 3.0). I can say, > that I expected different result (to be more precise - the same result > in 1st and 2nd figure except different font). Running things here does not make sense, so you should post the mp produced output as well as the pdf file. The conversion macro interprets the fsjow operator present in the MP output file. This means that tex itself takes care if font inclusion. Therefore the bitmap pk inclusion is entirely due to you local settings. The helvetica inclusion depends on the exact name (I use hv but others use xyzhvpqr or whatever) and again tex itself (of course the map fils is also involved) does the job. Keep in mind that MP is rather 'stupid' on fonts, that is: it uses tex to typeset things and uses the interpreted dvi data for positioning and then passes some info to the eps file. Unless mp is integrated in tex itself (taco is working on / looking into this), there are no easy ways out. Nice to know: the latest version also takes (sort of) care of the nfont hack of the clever polish ps gurus that made the turning globe logo of TUG98. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Sep 18 04:54:10 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06471 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 04:54:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA22370 for pdftex-list; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 06:45:18 -0400 Received: from chebucto.ns.ca (chebucto.ns.Ca [129.173.4.200]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA22367 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 06:45:17 -0400 Received: from aa056@localhost by halifax.chebucto.ns.ca id <36124-745>; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 07:44:58 -0300 Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 07:44:58 -0300 (ADT) From: George White X-Sender: aa056@halifax To: Jody Klymak cc: eas@eas.san-jose.ca.us, "Pdftex@Tug. Org" Subject: Re: dvi2tty? In-Reply-To: <199809172125.OAA10996@kraken.apl.washington.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Have you considered IBM's Techexplorer? This is a Netscape (also works with that other browser) plug-in that views .tex files directly. -- George White Halifax, Nova Scotia On Thu, 17 Sep 1998, Jody Klymak wrote: > > Hi, > > A couple of people suggested I try dvi2tty or something similar to convert > the FAQ to ASCII (then I can make the *.tex file as messy as I please). Let > me rephrase my request a bit. I need something I can run on a win32 system. > If anyone has a dvi2tty execuatable that'll run on my machine, I'd love to > try it. Or any other solution that does not involve me running a compiler > ;-) > > Thanks Jody > > PS I don't fear compilers, they fear me, and always seem to get nervous and > do funny things when I am around. > > *************************************************************** > Jody Klymak APL/School of Oceanography, > University of Washington > jklymak@apl.washington.edu (206)-685-9080 > http://www.ocean.washington.edu/people/grads/jklymak/Klymak.html > > > > Might I suggest that you get a copy of dvi2tty and just let it make an > > ascii copy of the output for for you. I convert my resume from dvi to > > ascii all the time this way. I am not sure what the extra pdf commands > > will do, but I think it is worth a try. > > > > =eas= > > -- > > earl.stutes@eas.san-jose.ca.us > > 5156 Elrose Avenue phone > > (408) 448.1089 > > San Jose, CA 95124 fax > > (408) 448.7864 > > > > From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Sep 18 04:56:29 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06517 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 04:56:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA22355 for pdftex-list; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 06:44:01 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA22352 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 06:43:56 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@SnowWhite.inet.cz [194.196.192.9]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id MAA04631 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:38:58 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA00921; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:42:05 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: pdftex-0.12o-8 with T.E. patches X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.122 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicited e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicited e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 18 Sep 1998 12:41:57 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 14 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, new version is on FTP sites now (Where? See pdfTeX FAQ :-))). Some typos in pdftex.ch changed and te-patches included (almost all of them). !!! Take care of new Install file - there is one new step - autoconf of xpdf !!! I would like to here from you about installation process... It works for me, but may not for you. -- Pavel Janik ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Sep 18 05:59:11 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07726 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 05:59:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA22701 for pdftex-list; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 07:48:17 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA22698 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 07:48:14 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@SnowWhite.inet.cz [194.196.192.9]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA09886; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:43:23 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA01301; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:46:30 +0200 To: Hans Hagen CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: MetaPost, PK fonts and Acroread References: <360203EC.57F1C0E6@wxs.nl> X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.122 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicited e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicited e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 18 Sep 1998 13:46:14 +0200 In-Reply-To: Hans Hagen's message of Fri, 18 Sep 1998 08:55:40 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 23 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: Hans Hagen Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 08:55:40 +0200 Hi, > Running things here does not make sense, so you should post the mp > produced output as well as the pdf file. ok, see ftp://ftp.inet.cz/pub/People/Pavel.Janik/pdfTeX/. > Keep in mind that MP is rather 'stupid' on fonts, that is: it uses tex > to typeset things and uses the interpreted dvi data for positioning and > then passes some info to the eps file. Unless mp is integrated in tex > itself (taco is working on / looking into this), there are no easy ways > out. Well, I wouldn't speak about MetaPost - simply I have PDF in which is MetaPost Output (see test.pdf) - two pictures (line and over it some text). The difference is in font type (PK versus Type1 built-in). Type 1 does not cover the line, PK does... -- Pavel Janik ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Sep 18 08:01:40 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA10280 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 08:01:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA23194 for pdftex-list; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 09:49:07 -0400 Received: from monster.igd.fhg.de (monster.igd.fhg.de [153.97.128.43]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA23191 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 09:49:00 -0400 Received: from smurfsoft.dauenhauer.de (isdn33) by monster.igd.fhg.de (5.x/SMI-4.1) id AA07911; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:48:54 +0200 Received: from zgdv.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smurfsoft.dauenhauer.de (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA24499; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:48:30 +0200 Message-Id: <360264AE.10DF28@zgdv.de> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:48:30 +0200 From: Christian Kumpf Organization: ZGDV X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b1 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.35 i586) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: MetaPost, PK fonts and Acroread References: <360203EC.57F1C0E6@wxs.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Pavel Janik ml. wrote: > Well, I wouldn't speak about MetaPost - simply I have PDF in which is > MetaPost Output (see test.pdf) - two pictures (line and over it some > text). The difference is in font type (PK versus Type1 built-in). Type > 1 does not cover the line, PK does... I can't see that effect, instead both pictures look pretty alike (except the different typefaces). Which Version of acroread do you use (and which X-Server). My Setup is Acroread 3.01: 0613 Jun 13 02:42:23 (Information form Help->About) X-Server: XFree86 SVGA 3.3.2 Everything on a Linux libc5-system. Greetings, Christian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Sep 18 09:42:01 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12909 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 09:42:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA23386 for pdftex-list; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:33:46 -0400 Received: from cusrva.cua.edu (cusrva.cua.edu [136.242.10.11]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA23383 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:33:44 -0400 Received: from cua.edu (client-151-200-124-78.bellatlantic.net) by cua.edu (PMDF V5.1-10 #29119) with ESMTP id <01J1Y880H77K8Y4Y13@cua.edu> for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:35:32 EDT Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:33:46 -0400 From: "Victor M. Bogdan" Subject: Re: dvi2tty? To: George White , "Pdftex@Tug. Org" Reply-to: bogdan@cua.edu Message-id: <36027D59.84FB60FE@cua.edu> Organization: CUA MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk How one can get this Netscape plag-in: Techexplorer? George White wrote: > Have you considered IBM's Techexplorer? This is a Netscape (also works > with that other browser) plug-in that views .tex files directly. > > -- > George White Halifax, Nova Scotia > > On Thu, 17 Sep 1998, Jody Klymak wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > A couple of people suggested I try dvi2tty or something similar to convert > > the FAQ to ASCII (then I can make the *.tex file as messy as I please). Let > > me rephrase my request a bit. I need something I can run on a win32 system. > > If anyone has a dvi2tty execuatable that'll run on my machine, I'd love to > > try it. Or any other solution that does not involve me running a compiler > > ;-) > > > > Thanks Jody > > > > PS I don't fear compilers, they fear me, and always seem to get nervous and > > do funny things when I am around. > > > > *************************************************************** > > Jody Klymak APL/School of Oceanography, > > University of Washington > > jklymak@apl.washington.edu (206)-685-9080 > > http://www.ocean.washington.edu/people/grads/jklymak/Klymak.html > > > > > > > Might I suggest that you get a copy of dvi2tty and just let it make an > > > ascii copy of the output for for you. I convert my resume from dvi to > > > ascii all the time this way. I am not sure what the extra pdf commands > > > will do, but I think it is worth a try. > > > > > > =eas= > > > -- > > > earl.stutes@eas.san-jose.ca.us > > > 5156 Elrose Avenue phone > > > (408) 448.1089 > > > San Jose, CA 95124 fax > > > (408) 448.7864 > > > > > > > From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Sep 18 09:42:21 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12918 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 09:42:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA23393 for pdftex-list; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:34:17 -0400 Received: from nepenthe.eas.san-jose.ca.us (root@cronus-red.eas.san-jose.ca.us [199.173.156.244]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA23390 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:34:15 -0400 Received: from nepenthe.eas.san-jose.ca.us (estutes@cronus.eas.san-jose.ca.us [199.173.156.27]) by nepenthe.eas.san-jose.ca.us (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA27912; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 08:30:30 -0700 Message-Id: <199809181530.IAA27912@nepenthe.eas.san-jose.ca.us> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 08:30:27 -0700 (PDT) From: eas@eas.san-jose.ca.us Reply-To: eas@eas.san-jose.ca.us Subject: Re: dvi2tty? To: s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: <13826.5196.532000.186749@SRAHTZ> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On 18 Sep, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > I think that investing in TeX to HTML would be more useful. who wants > plain ASCII anyway? > > sebastian I'll agree with that. latex2html works just fine for me here. =eas= From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Sep 18 10:14:34 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA13915 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:14:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA23606 for pdftex-list; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:03:25 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA23603 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:03:24 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id QAA26690; hop 0; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:56:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 17:02:57 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13826.33645.269000.647028@SRAHTZ> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:59:41 +0100 ( `) To: bogdan@cua.edu Cc: aa056@chebucto.ns.ca, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: dvi2tty? In-Reply-To: <36027D59.84FB60FE@cua.edu> References: <36027D59.84FB60FE@cua.edu> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Victor M. Bogdan writes: > How one can get this Netscape plag-in: www.alphaworks.ibm.com. but this is getting seriously off-topic, you know! Sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Sep 18 11:57:29 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16854 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:57:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA23992 for pdftex-list; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:49:47 -0400 Received: from mailman.campbellsci.com (mailman.campbellsci.com [207.201.118.3]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA23989 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:49:46 -0400 Received: from carl_zmola ([207.201.118.7]) by mailman.campbellsci.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with SMTP id AAA226; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:49:01 -0600 From: "Carl Zmola" To: eas@eas.san-jose.ca.us Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:45:29 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: dvi2tty? Reply-to: zmola@campbellsci.com CC: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <199809181530.IAA27912@nepenthe.eas.san-jose.ca.us> References: <13826.5196.532000.186749@SRAHTZ> Message-ID: <19980918174901118.AAA226@carl_zmola> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > =eas= wrote: > sebastian wrote: > > I think that investing in TeX to HTML would be more useful. who wants > > plain ASCII anyway? > > > I'll agree with that. > latex2html works just fine for me here. If it is in pdf with hyperlinks, why use html? Text is better for emailing and is generic. Carl zmola@campbellsci.com From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Sep 18 17:22:15 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA25347 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 17:22:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA24475 for pdftex-list; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 19:15:31 -0400 Received: from kraken.apl.washington.edu (kraken76.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.25]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA24472 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 19:15:00 -0400 Received: from galiano (galiano.apl.washington.edu [128.95.97.152]) by kraken.apl.washington.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA03630 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:14:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809182314.QAA03630@kraken.apl.washington.edu> From: "Jody Klymak" To: "Pdftex@Tug. Org" Subject: FAQ formats... Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:17:39 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: <199809182019.WAA18260@esemetz.ese-metz.fr> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi All, First, I tried unsuccesfully to get latex2html to work on my win32 machine. I didn't try *that* hard, but I really have little interest in doing it, mostly because I want to web-publish my documents in PDF. When I want to make web pages I'll use a WYSIWYG editor. However, if anyone has latex2html working on their win32 machine and is willing to tar it up and send it to me, I'd be more than happy to produce the FAQ using it. In the meantime, I think the PDF format and the ASCII format made by dvi2tty will be good. I suspect anyone interested in PDF probably already has a PDF viewer, so it is a reasonably general format. The ASCII format can be posted to the list, and many smart email clients can expand full URLs to make links. I will not continue to worry overly much about the neatness of the FAQ.tex source, but will ask Sebastian to continue serving it, since it is a very simple example of a pdfLaTeX source file. I will discontinue serving the DVI file, unless someone really wants it. Thanks for everyone's input, and keep sending those FAQs! Cheers, Jody *************************************************************** Jody Klymak APL/School of Oceanography, University of Washington jklymak@apl.washington.edu (206)-685-9080 http://www.ocean.washington.edu/people/grads/jklymak/Klymak.html > -----Original Message----- > From: Fabrice.Popineau [mailto:popineau@esemetz.ese-metz.fr] > Sent: Friday, September 18, 1998 1:19 PM > To: jklymak@apl.washington.edu > Subject: RE: dvi2tty? > > > I should get the latest version of l2h and check that it is still working > with win32 ... unfortunately not enough time to do all of what I want :-( > > Which version did you get ? How did you install it ? > > Fabrice > From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Sep 18 21:03:38 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA00037 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 21:03:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA24716 for pdftex-list; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 22:58:24 -0400 Received: from cc.vsu.ru (root@ns.vsu.relarn.ru [194.226.24.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA24713 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 22:58:21 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cc.vsu.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id GAA09802 for pdftex@tug.org; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 06:56:59 +0400 Received: (from vvv@localhost) by vvv.vsu.ru (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA01744; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 06:55:35 +0400 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: preloading pk fonts as type3 fonts From: Vladimir Volovich Date: 19 Sep 1998 06:55:35 +0400 Message-ID: Lines: 8 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070031 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.31) Emacs/20.3 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, with pdftex version 3.14159-0.12o-6-tiff3, i tried to produce a pdf file with preloaded pk fonts. i ran `pdftex testfont' and produced a table of ecrm1000. Then acroread said that the type3 font was invalid. What's going wrong? Best regards, -- Vladimir. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sat Sep 19 05:47:51 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA09868 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 05:47:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA25119 for pdftex-list; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 07:42:27 -0400 Received: from cs.umb.edu (root@cs.umb.edu [158.121.104.2]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA25113; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 07:42:22 -0400 Received: from hub.cs.umb.edu (hub.cs.umb.edu [158.121.104.161]) by cs.umb.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02850; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 07:42:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Karl Berry Received: (from karl@localhost) by hub.cs.umb.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA09099; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 07:42:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 07:42:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809191142.HAA09099@hub.cs.umb.edu> To: atknsn@rigel.econ.uga.edu Cc: webmaster@tug.org, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: dvi to pdf conversion for win95 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Can you tell me where to find a program to convert dvi files to pdf files? There is a dvipdf program which you can find by searching on the web. I'm not sure where the current version. There is also a version of tex that outputs pdf, called pdftex. It is available on CTAN (ftp://ctan.org/systems/pdftex) and is included on the TeX Live CD. Cc-ing the pdftex mailing list so others can give you more info. Is there such a program that is part of emtex? Sorry, I do not know about emtex. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sat Sep 19 05:59:31 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA10080 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 05:59:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA25202 for pdftex-list; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 07:54:12 -0400 Received: from reseau.chebucto.ns.ca (reseau.chebucto.ns.Ca [129.173.4.204]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA25199 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 07:54:10 -0400 Received: from aa056@localhost by halifax.chebucto.ns.ca id <33353-729>; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 08:53:37 -0300 Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 08:53:37 -0300 (ADT) From: George White X-Sender: aa056@halifax To: "Victor M. Bogdan" cc: "Pdftex@Tug. Org" Subject: Re: dvi2tty? In-Reply-To: <36027D59.84FB60FE@cua.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk http://www.ibm.com and search for techexplorer. -- George White Halifax, Nova Scotia On Fri, 18 Sep 1998, Victor M. Bogdan wrote: > How one can get this Netscape plag-in: Techexplorer? From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sun Sep 20 07:23:47 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA08909 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 07:23:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA26222 for pdftex-list; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 09:14:52 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA26219 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 09:14:48 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@dialup4.inet.cz [194.196.193.4]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id PAA19474; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:09:53 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA06882; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:11:01 +0200 To: Chris Hubert CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: writet1.c patch References: <199809141347.JAA07330@rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu> X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.122 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicited e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicited e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 20 Sep 1998 15:10:53 +0200 In-Reply-To: Chris Hubert's message of Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:42:00 -0400 Message-ID: Lines: 26 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: Chris Hubert Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:42:00 -0400 Hi, > I believe that this is due to the problem discussed by Tom Kavinsky. I believe too. > similar to the one I am having, and if the patch has been effective? Also, > has this patch, or some other correction, been made in more recent versions > of PDFTeX. I would like to include it, but I do not have access to any Mac and I do not believe that anybody tested this patch... will see later... > >! if (t1_suffix("for") { > >! t1_putline(); > >! } This is not compilable on any C compiler... there is one bracket missing so I do not believe that this was tested, so it will not be included in pdfTeX, sorry. -- Pavel Janík ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sun Sep 20 07:23:55 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA08915 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 07:23:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA26227 for pdftex-list; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 09:14:56 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA26224 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 09:14:54 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@dialup4.inet.cz [194.196.193.4]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id PAA19482; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:10:00 +0200 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA06479; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 14:18:46 +0200 To: hilgenstock@AVU.de (Hilgenstock, Michael) CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: XObject missing References: <35FB2A46.DAAC0361@avunet.de> <35FCE610.945AFAF5@avunet.de> X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.122 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicited e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicited e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 20 Sep 1998 14:18:36 +0200 In-Reply-To: hilgenstock@AVU.de's message of Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:46:56 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 24 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: hilgenstock@AVU.de (Hilgenstock, Michael) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:46:56 +0200 Hi, > >> The graphic file itsself is shown by Acrobat reader, but when displaying > >> the file, I created with PDFTeX which contains it, Acrobat reader > >> complains, it cannot find the XObject named "R6". > > > > can you send us more info? Can you put your pdf on WWW? > > You can acces some more info and the relevant files via > http://www.avu.de/Users/hilgenst/report.html I downloaded your files but if I test \pdfimage lwllogo1.pdf \bye it's ok, please test latest pdfTeX. I do not use LaTeX so I can not test it further. Can you do? -- Pavel Janík ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sun Sep 20 07:42:26 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA09233 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 07:42:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA26398 for pdftex-list; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 09:35:33 -0400 Received: from cc.vsu.ru (root@ns.vsu.relarn.ru [194.226.24.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA26395 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 09:35:12 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cc.vsu.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id RAA14312 for pdftex@tug.org; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 17:33:09 +0400 Received: (from vvv@localhost) by vvv.vsu.ru (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA11016; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 17:32:32 +0400 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: ttf2afm glitch From: Vladimir Volovich Date: 20 Sep 1998 17:32:32 +0400 Message-ID: Lines: 14 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070031 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.31) Emacs/20.3 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, when ttf2afm is called with one argument --- font name (i.e. without specifying the encoding name), it should produce an afm file which contains info about all glyphs in the font with character codes set to -1 (`not encoded'). However, when trying to run "ttf2afm cmr10.ttf", where cmr10.ttf was taken from the BaKoMa collection (CTAN:fonts/cm/ps-type1/bakoma/ttf/cmr10.ttf), the result was a bit strange: all glyphs were `encoded' with the same code: 6. Maybe, some other data was incorrect (please, check this). Best regards, -- Vladimir. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sun Sep 20 09:18:20 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10916 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 09:18:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA26688 for pdftex-list; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 11:10:42 -0400 Received: from math.ams.org (math.ams.org [130.44.210.14]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA26685 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 11:10:41 -0400 Received: from sun06.ams.org by math.ams.org via smtpd (for tug.org [158.121.106.10]) with SMTP; 20 Sep 1998 15:10:36 UT Received: from sun06.ams.org by sun06.ams.org (PMDF V5.1-10 #27147) with SMTP id <0EZL003MB8TNJ1@sun06.ams.org> for pdftex@tug.org; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 11:10:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 11:10:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky Subject: Re: writet1.c patch In-reply-to: To: "Pavel Janik ml." Cc: Chris Hubert , pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > > > I believe that this is due to the problem discussed by Tom Kavinsky. > > I believe too. > Yes. > > > similar to the one I am having, and if the patch has been effective? > > Also, has this patch, or some other correction, been made in more > > recent versions of PDFTeX. > > I would like to include it, but I do not have access to any Mac and I > do not believe that anybody tested this patch... will see later... > See comments below about testing this on a Macintosh. I reported this as a problem with Macintosh printing (because that is where I first noted it), but it also happens when printing from a Windows NT box, and when trying to distill a PS file made from a pdfTeX generated PDF file. > > >! if (t1_suffix("for") { > > >! t1_putline(); > > >! } > > This is not compilable on any C compiler... there is one bracket > missing so I do not believe that this was tested, so it will not be > included in pdfTeX, sorry. That is a missing parantheses. You are right. I didn't test this one. It was a post I made because other people weren't convinced the first patch I posted would work. By the way, the very first patch I posted has been tested extensively, and works for what it was intended to do. How do I know this? Because it has been tested with latest beta version of MathSciNet for about two months now. At the time of original posting, it had been tested about two days, and the second posting, I think about 3 weeks. The time frames are probably wrong, because I have been getting on with other things, and have lost track of what I did and when I did it. I was hoping that someone else might take a look at what I pointed out, but I guess since no one has had any printing problems (besides the fellow who reopened this thread), there is no need to look into this. Also, there has been a lot of concern about graphics inclusion, so I can see this being put on the back burner by others. Isn't it obvious what to fix, and isn't it also obvious that the print testing needs to be done on more than Macintosh? That is, test printing on other machines to make sure that the patch doesn't break anything else? I will try test the patch later today, and report back. I can only test compilation on Digital Alpha running DU 4.0b, and a Sparc 2 running Solaris 2.5.1. This may well be a moot point, because one of the last posts to the list before Thanh took off for the summer was a posting about the t1part library of Sergei Lesenko (that is the Type 1 font handling library used in dvips). Perhaps Thanh is planning on using this library for pdfTeX? Tom From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sun Sep 20 11:53:52 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13631 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 11:53:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA27031 for pdftex-list; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 13:45:54 -0400 Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA27028 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 13:45:52 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.21.8]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA1FEB; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 19:45:15 +0200 Message-ID: <3605408B.E93BEAAF@wxs.nl> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 19:51:07 +0200 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex Subject: CMACTEX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm trying to install pdftex on someones else's mac (cmactex) and I fail in doing so. The binaries file (expanding into disk 1) contains pdftex, but the file is only 163 Kbyte which coincidentaly is the same size as the setup tool. I would have expected a binary of about 800K. So, it looks like the wrong file is in the distcirbution. Can anyone help me out? Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sun Sep 20 12:22:17 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA14183 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 12:22:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA27185 for pdftex-list; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 14:16:41 -0400 Received: from rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu (rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu [164.107.171.29]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA27182 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 14:16:40 -0400 Received: from gw2 (gw2.eng.ohio-state.edu [164.107.169.221]) by rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id OAA25327; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 14:16:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809201816.OAA25327@rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu> X-Sender: hubert@rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 14:11:17 -0400 To: Tom Kacvinsky , pavel@inet.cz From: Chris Hubert Subject: Re: writet1.c patch Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >Hi, > >> >> > I believe that this is due to the problem discussed by Tom Kavinsky. >> >> I believe too. >> > >Yes. > >> >> > similar to the one I am having, and if the patch has been effective? >> > Also, has this patch, or some other correction, been made in more >> > recent versions of PDFTeX. >> >> I would like to include it, but I do not have access to any Mac and I >> do not believe that anybody tested this patch... will see later... >> > >See comments below about testing this on a Macintosh. I reported this >as a problem with Macintosh printing (because that is where I first noted >it), but it also happens when printing from a Windows NT box, and when >trying to distill a PS file made from a pdfTeX generated PDF file. > > > >> > >! if (t1_suffix("for") { >> > >! t1_putline(); >> > >! } >> >> This is not compilable on any C compiler... there is one bracket >> missing so I do not believe that this was tested, so it will not be >> included in pdfTeX, sorry. Tom and Pavel-- Thanks for your response. Yes, I was not paying much attention to the parenthesis on this patch, however I did check the previous patch (included below), which Tom mentions has been extensively tested. I compiled the latest version of teTeX on an SGI (Irix 5.3) (if memory serves it was pdfTeX 12.o-6). Without the patch, the code (or rather documents generated using the program) still had printing problems from a Mac; with the patch the code printed fine from a Mac. I had also experienced troubles printing from some SGIs-- I have not checked if the code patch has corrected this as well. (I assume it has, but will check later this week.) *** 1.1 1998/06/16 01:14:47 - --- 1.2 1998/06/16 01:16:26 *************** *** 462,467 **** - --- 462,482 ---- do { T1_CHECK_EOF(); t1_getline(); + + /* + If the next line ends in "for", it probably is of + of the form: + + 0 1 255 {1 index exch /.notdef put} for + + This is PS code to populate the encoding array with + /.notdef; if not there, Macintosh print drivers + choke when printing out the PDF file. + */ + + if (strstr(t1_line, "for")) { + t1_putline(); + } if (sscanf(t1_line, "dup %u%s put", &i, buf) == 2 && *buf == '/' && pdfischarused(tex_font, i)) { builtin_glyph_names[i] = xstrdup(buf + 1); /* skip the slash */ ------- End of forwarded message ------- Chris Hubert Department of Mechanical Engineering The Ohio State University 206 West 18th Avenue Columbus, OH 43210-1107 (614) 292-2356 (Office) (614) 292-3163 (Fax) hubert@rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sun Sep 20 12:39:43 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA14531 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 12:39:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA27293 for pdftex-list; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 14:35:35 -0400 Received: from math.ams.org (math.ams.org [130.44.210.14]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA27290 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 14:35:34 -0400 Received: from sun06.ams.org by math.ams.org via smtpd (for tug.org [158.121.106.10]) with SMTP; 20 Sep 1998 18:35:34 UT Received: from sun06.ams.org by sun06.ams.org (PMDF V5.1-10 #27147) with SMTP id <0EZL0097IIB95O@sun06.ams.org> for pdftex@tug.org; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 14:35:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 14:35:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky Subject: Re: CMACTEX In-reply-to: <3605408B.E93BEAAF@wxs.nl> To: Hans Hagen Cc: pdftex Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > > I'm trying to install pdftex on someones else's mac (cmactex) and I fail > in doing so. The binaries file (expanding into disk 1) contains pdftex, > but the file is only 163 Kbyte which coincidentaly is the same size as > the setup tool. I would have expected a binary of about 800K. > > So, it looks like the wrong file is in the distcirbution. Can anyone > help me out? > Hi Hans, Did you get the files from Tom Kiffe's sight (http://www.kiffe.com) or from CTAN? The files might have gotten corrupted (obviously. :) The binary I have is around 1 MB. Also, there are other disks to download, and then you can run an AppleScript that takes care of the installation. The last time I checked in with Tom, he was contemplating how he was going to go about doing the TIFF graphics inclusion. I'll check in with him and see what is going on. Regards, Tom From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sun Sep 20 12:57:32 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA14861 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 12:57:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA27440 for pdftex-list; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 14:49:29 -0400 Received: from hotpoint.dcs.qmw.ac.uk (hotpoint.dcs.qmw.ac.uk [138.37.88.162]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA27437 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 14:49:27 -0400 Received: from dialup-port4.dcs.qmw.ac.uk [138.37.88.234]; by hotpoint.dcs.qmw.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.5/S-4.0) with ESMTP; for ""; id TAA29212; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 19:49:22 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: graham@pophost.dcs.qmw.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3605408B.E93BEAAF@wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 19:46:51 +0100 To: pdftex@tug.org From: Graham White Subject: Re: CMACTEX Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >Hi, > >I'm trying to install pdftex on someones else's mac (cmactex) and I fail >in doing so. The binaries file (expanding into disk 1) contains pdftex, >but the file is only 163 Kbyte which coincidentaly is the same size as >the setup tool. I would have expected a binary of about 800K. > >So, it looks like the wrong file is in the distcirbution. Can anyone >help me out? > >Hans > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl >----------------------------------------------------------------- The pdftex binary is about the right size, but you also need the pdftex tool which the pdftex binary calls (this is because of a problem with memory leaks). The pdftex tool is 878k. Graham From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sun Sep 20 13:05:15 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA14991 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 13:05:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA27569 for pdftex-list; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:01:23 -0400 Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA27566 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:01:21 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.20.249]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA4AE4; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 21:00:44 +0200 Message-ID: <36055244.4665E677@wxs.nl> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 21:06:44 +0200 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Kacvinsky CC: pdftex Subject: Re: CMACTEX References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Tom Kacvinsky wrote: > Did you get the files from Tom Kiffe's sight (http://www.kiffe.com) or from > CTAN? The files might have gotten corrupted (obviously. :) The binary I We tried both. > have is around 1 MB. Also, there are other disks to download, and then > you can run an AppleScript that takes care of the installation. We fail here. How about the texmf.cnf file? There is a tex.cnf. Should there be one for each binary? How large is your binary? Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sun Sep 20 13:52:23 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA15847 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 13:52:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA27745 for pdftex-list; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:41:56 -0400 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA27742 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:41:53 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.21.133]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA2F1D; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 21:40:44 +0200 Message-ID: <36055BA3.61C0A04@wxs.nl> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 21:46:43 +0200 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Kacvinsky CC: pdftex Subject: Re: CMACTEX References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Did you get the files from Tom Kiffe's sight (http://www.kiffe.com) or from > CTAN? The files might have gotten corrupted (obviously. :) The binary I > have is around 1 MB. Also, there are other disks to download, and then > you can run an AppleScript that takes care of the installation. I now have a pdftex binary and something called pdftex.tool (somthing 500+K). In the menu I cannot find an entry for generating a format file, also setting up the search path fails. Where should I put a texmf.cnf file (or pdftex.cnf)? I wonder why the tex menu differs from the pdftex menu. Is there a place where I edit this or is this hard coded (you see, I'm a complete mac dummy). Can you mail me a copy of your pdftex.pool file? (The windows version I use is a later version). Hans Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sun Sep 20 13:53:24 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA15876 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 13:53:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA27762 for pdftex-list; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:49:37 -0400 Received: from math.ams.org (math.ams.org [130.44.210.14]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA27759 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:49:36 -0400 Received: from sun06.ams.org by math.ams.org via smtpd (for tug.org [158.121.106.10]) with SMTP; 20 Sep 1998 19:49:36 UT Received: from sun06.ams.org by sun06.ams.org (PMDF V5.1-10 #27147) with SMTP id <0EZL009B6LQN5O@sun06.ams.org> for pdftex@tug.org; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:49:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:49:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky Subject: Re: CMACTEX In-reply-to: <36055BA3.61C0A04@wxs.nl> To: Hans Hagen Cc: pdftex Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Run the binary called "setup". It allows you to specify the search paths. As for generating the formats: Run the binary pdftex, and use the "Execute..." dialog box to enter a UNIX command (for instance, pdftex --ini ....) HTH, Tom From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sun Sep 20 16:10:59 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18576 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 16:10:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA28131 for pdftex-list; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 18:04:29 -0400 Received: from math.ams.org (math.ams.org [130.44.210.14]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA28128 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 18:04:28 -0400 Received: from sun06.ams.org by math.ams.org via smtpd (for tug.org [158.121.106.10]) with SMTP; 20 Sep 1998 22:04:28 UT Received: from sun06.ams.org by sun06.ams.org (PMDF V5.1-10 #27147) with SMTP id <0EZL009J9RZF5O@sun06.ams.org> for pdftex@tug.org; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 18:04:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 18:04:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky Subject: writet1.c patch (again) To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Below is a patch for writet1.c. I have compiled and tested it on a Digital Alpha running Digital UNIX 4.0b and on a Sun Ultra 2 running Solaris 2.5.1. Note that in order to pass the "test", the line 0 1 255 {1 index exch /.notdef put} for must be written into the PDF file if it exists in any of the Type 1 fonts used by the documents run through pdftex. I make no claims about robustness!! This is a very specific "fix" for a general problem. There are umpteen million ways /Encoding to be specified in a Type 1 font. Fortunately, most of the fonts that come from reputable typography houses have /Encoding defined as follows: /Encoding 256 array 0 1 255 {1 index exch /.notdef put} for dup 0 /foo put dup 1 /bar put dup 2 /baz put . . . readonly def So nothing freaky should happen. If, on the other hand, the /Encoding is defined as /Encoding [ /foo /bar /baz /what /ever /as /if ... ] readonly def (or variations on a theme), and we need to read the font's built in encoding, we are in trouble, because Thanh's code parses the encoding as if it were defined as /Encoding 256 array .... readonly def Note that my patch does not affect this part of writet1.c. And finally: Pavel -- this has been tested!! There are no typos, and the code compiled! Tom =================================================================== RCS file: RCS/writet1.c,v retrieving revision 1.1 retrieving revision 1.6 diff -c -r1.1 -r1.6 *** writet1.c 1998/06/16 01:14:47 1.1 --- writet1.c 1998/09/20 19:15:32 1.6 *************** *** 462,467 **** --- 462,471 ---- do { T1_CHECK_EOF(); t1_getline(); + + if (t1_suffix("for")) { + t1_putline(); + } if (sscanf(t1_line, "dup %u%s put", &i, buf) == 2 && *buf == '/' && pdfischarused(tex_font, i)) { builtin_glyph_names[i] = xstrdup(buf + 1); /* skip the slash */ From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 21 01:13:57 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA28910 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 01:13:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA28695 for pdftex-list; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 03:04:24 -0400 Received: from ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr (ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.232.33]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA28692 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 03:04:22 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06533 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 09:04:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id JAA02622; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 09:04:37 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 09:04:37 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199809210704.JAA02622@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: "Pdftex@Tug. Org" Subject: Example doc sought X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm intending to realize an order form in PDF (with latex + hyperref or context e.g.). What i'm expecting is that the user types his input inside fields, that computations be handled in JavaScript, and yield a ready to print document (I remember Hans talking about `typesetting on demand': is that only possible with current PDF?). As i have absolutely no idea how to do that actually, i'd be gratefull for any real example. Thanks, Thierry Bouche. ----- thierry.bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr http://www-fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr/~bouche/pdfTeX From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 21 05:22:48 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA03082 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 05:22:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA29123 for pdftex-list; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 07:14:53 -0400 Received: from math.ams.org (math.ams.org [130.44.210.14]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA29120 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 07:14:51 -0400 Received: from sun06.ams.org by math.ams.org via smtpd (for tug.org [158.121.106.10]) with SMTP; 21 Sep 1998 11:14:42 UT Received: from sun06.ams.org by sun06.ams.org (PMDF V5.1-10 #27147) with SMTP id <0EZM00HB1SKHKH@sun06.ams.org> for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 07:14:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 07:14:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky Subject: Re: CMACTEX In-reply-to: To: Pierre Basso Cc: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi Pierre, I am carbon copying my answer to the pdftex list, because others on the list might find useful information in the answer. Please send all responses to the list. Thanks... > > I work with CmacTeX and I dont succeed in using pdftex. > I have a 68 K Mac, LC475, with MacOS8.1 and I loaded the 68K versions of > CmacTeX applications. So I cannot use the pdftex last version 0.12n but an > older, 0.12l, distributed with CmacTeX 68K applications. If I launch pdftex > and compile a text with adobe fonts, for example with a \usepackage{times} > in the preamble, pdftex runs well but when I launch AcrobatReader the pdf > file is not displayed, however my pdftex file is not empty. File:Info menu > in AcrobatReader tells the fonts are not found. The map file includes the > command: > ptmr8t Times-Roman "TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont" <8r.enc > because I dont have the times pfb fonts. > (1) From the line you have have above, I gather you are using the Times package with the T1 encoding. But ptmr8t is what is used by TeX. The virtual font maps characters from the "polished" font to the "raw" font ptmr8r, so you'll want to replace ptmr8t by ptmr8r. (2) Even if pdfTeX is not going to include a font, it still needs to read in that font's pfb file to get some information from the outline file. I don't recall where I read this. Can someone on the list remember why this is the case, and what information is read? Or am I way off base? Suppose I am correct. Then you'll need to get a Times Roman font file that pdfTeX can use. If you have Acrobat Reader, you have the Times Fonts, but not in a form that pdfTeX can use. But since you have pdfTeX, you access to the tools lwfn2pfa and pfa2pfb. Run lwfn2pfa on the outline file, and the pfa2pfb on the corresponding PFA file. This is a file that pdfTeX can read -- place it in the folder where you keep the fonts that pdfTeX uses and regenerate the pdfTeX file. Let me know what happens. Regards, Tom From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 21 06:34:32 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA04257 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 06:34:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA29267 for pdftex-list; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 08:27:10 -0400 Received: from math.ams.org (math.ams.org [130.44.210.14]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA29264 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 08:27:09 -0400 Received: from sun06.ams.org by math.ams.org via smtpd (for tug.org [158.121.106.10]) with SMTP; 21 Sep 1998 12:27:09 UT Received: from sun06.ams.org by sun06.ams.org (PMDF V5.1-10 #27147) with SMTP id <0EZM00HOOVX8KH@sun06.ams.org> for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 08:27:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 08:27:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky Subject: Re: CMACTEX In-reply-to: To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > ptmr8t Times-Roman "TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont" <8r.enc Doh! I forgot, the entries need to look like this: ptmr8r Times-Roman Times-Roman.pfb 8r.enc It looks like you pulled your entry out of one of the dvips maps. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 21 07:44:03 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA05621 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 07:44:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA30010 for pdftex-list; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 09:32:18 -0400 Received: from gw-gia5.lim.univ-mrs.fr (gw-gia5.lim.univ-mrs.fr [139.124.5.250]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA30007 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 09:32:16 -0400 Received: from [139.124.14.234] (mac-latex.dil.univ-mrs.fr) by gw-gia5.lim.univ-mrs.fr (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA12946; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:29:54 +0200 Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:29:52 +0200 X-Sender: basso@pop.lim.univ-mrs.fr Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Tom Kacvinsky From: Pierre Basso Subject: Re: CMACTEX Cc: pdftex@tug.org Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >Hi Pierre, > >I am carbon copying my answer to the pdftex list, because others on >the list might find useful information in the answer. Please send all >responses to the list. Thanks... > >> >> I work with CmacTeX and I dont succeed in using pdftex. >> I have a 68 K Mac, LC475, with MacOS8.1 and I loaded the 68K versions of >> CmacTeX applications. So I cannot use the pdftex last version 0.12n but an >> older, 0.12l, distributed with CmacTeX 68K applications. If I launch pdftex >> and compile a text with adobe fonts, for example with a \usepackage{times} >> in the preamble, pdftex runs well but when I launch AcrobatReader the pdf >> file is not displayed, however my pdftex file is not empty. File:Info menu >> in AcrobatReader tells the fonts are not found. The map file includes the >> command: >> ptmr8t Times-Roman "TeXBase1Encoding ReEncodeFont" <8r.enc >> because I dont have the times pfb fonts. >> > >(1) From the line you have have above, I gather you are using the Times >package with the T1 encoding. But ptmr8t is what is used by TeX. The >virtual font maps characters from the "polished" font to the "raw" font >ptmr8r, so you'll want to replace ptmr8t by ptmr8r. > >(2) Even if pdfTeX is not going to include a font, it still needs to read in >that font's pfb file to get some information from the outline file. I don't >recall where I read this. Can someone on the list remember why this >is the case, and what information is read? Or am I way off base? > >Suppose I am correct. Then you'll need to get a Times Roman font file that >pdfTeX can use. > >If you have Acrobat Reader, you have the Times Fonts, but not in a form >that pdfTeX can use. But since you have pdfTeX, you access to the tools >lwfn2pfa and pfa2pfb. Run lwfn2pfa on the outline file, and the pfa2pfb >on the corresponding PFA file. This is a file that pdfTeX can read -- >place it in the folder where you keep the fonts that pdfTeX uses and >regenerate the pdfTeX file. > >Let me know what happens. > Thanks Tom for your answer. I listened to your advice and I converted all my Times Fonts, found in System folder of MacOs, into pfa; then these pfa into pfb. I used a map file with the command: ptmr8r Times-Roman Times-Roman.pfb 8r.enc Halas, I get the same outcome, i.e.: nothing! AcrobatReader (3.01) does not find the original font. Maybe pdftex does not find the folder including these pfb because it looks for a special folder. What do you think? Regards. Pierre ******************************************* * * * Pierre BASSO * * Laboratoire d'Informatique de Marseille * * CNRS ESA 6077 * * Facult\'e des Sciences - case 901 * * 163 Avenue de Luminy * * 13288 MARSEILLE cedex 9 * * FRANCE * * Tel.: (33) 04.91.82.90.72 * * * ******************************************* From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 21 07:52:06 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA05815 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 07:52:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA30024 for pdftex-list; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 09:42:08 -0400 Received: from math.ams.org (math.ams.org [130.44.210.14]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA30021 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 09:42:07 -0400 Received: from sun06.ams.org by math.ams.org via smtpd (for tug.org [158.121.106.10]) with SMTP; 21 Sep 1998 13:42:07 UT Received: from sun06.ams.org by sun06.ams.org (PMDF V5.1-10 #27147) with SMTP id <0EZM00KJCZE2A5@sun06.ams.org> for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 09:42:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 09:42:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky Subject: Re: CMACTEX In-reply-to: To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > > Thanks Tom for your answer. I listened to your advice and I converted all > my Times Fonts, found in System folder of MacOs, into pfa; then these pfa > into pfb. I used a map file with the command: > > ptmr8r Times-Roman Times-Roman.pfb 8r.enc > > Halas, I get the same outcome, i.e.: nothing! AcrobatReader (3.01) does not > find the original font. > Maybe pdftex does not find the folder including these pfb because it looks > for a special folder. > What do you think? > I think I need to see the log file output from pdfTeX. That should give some clue as to what is happening (and is going wrong). It could very well be the case that pdfTeX is not finding the font, but you should see an error message to this effect. Tom From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 21 08:19:24 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06507 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 08:19:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA30209 for pdftex-list; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 10:13:34 -0400 Received: from monster.igd.fhg.de (monster.igd.fhg.de [153.97.128.43]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA30206 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 10:13:30 -0400 Received: from smurfsoft.dauenhauer.de (isdn33) by monster.igd.fhg.de (5.x/SMI-4.1) id AA28810; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:13:20 +0200 Received: from zgdv.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smurfsoft.dauenhauer.de (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA03593; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:13:17 +0200 Message-Id: <36065EFC.78943B36@zgdv.de> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:13:16 +0200 From: Christian Kumpf Organization: ZGDV X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.35 i586) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Sebastian Rahtz Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Hyperref, pdfTeX, and multicols (with fix) References: <19980915203734338.AAA60@carl_zmola> <13823.29988.982000.667256@SRAHTZ> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I've recogniced a small problem while preparing a document in multicolumn format with Frank Mittelbachs multicol-package (although the problem is not specific to Franks package, it's a problem of grouping). Consider the followibng layout: \section{} ... twocolumn text follows... \subsection{} ... Figure over full page width ... twocolumn text continues... \subsubsection{}! Here the problem shows up. Changing the number of columns is done by environments, i.e. establish grouping. now the subsubsection doesn't know about it's parents and the left contents-menubar in acrobat reader gets wrong. I've changed the definition of the labels in the macro \@writetorep (hyperref.dtx, 1998/09/07 6.35, line 3877) to be a global definition, i.e. I replaced \expandafter\edef\csname Parent#3\endcsname{#2}% with \expandafter\xdef\csname Parent#3\endcsname{#2}% and this solved tho problem for me. You may incorporate this fix into your next release. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 21 08:34:50 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06906 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 08:34:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA30355 for pdftex-list; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 10:28:56 -0400 Received: from gw-gia5.lim.univ-mrs.fr (gw-gia5.lim.univ-mrs.fr [139.124.5.250]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA30352 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 10:28:53 -0400 Received: from [139.124.14.234] (mac-latex.dil.univ-mrs.fr) by gw-gia5.lim.univ-mrs.fr (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA13665; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:23:49 +0200 Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:23:46 +0200 X-Sender: basso@pop.lim.univ-mrs.fr Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Tom Kacvinsky From: Pierre Basso Subject: Re: CMACTEX Cc: pdftex@tug.org Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > > >Doh! I forgot, the entries need to look like this: > >ptmr8r Times-Roman Times-Roman.pfb 8r.enc > >It looks like you pulled your entry out of one of >the dvips maps. Tom, I tried again with a short sample tex file. I set on the flag "Debug paths" in Options menu of pdftex. It searches for a ptmr8r.vf file! Of course, this file is not found and maybe the problem occurs from that. Regards. Pierre ******************************************* * * * Pierre BASSO * * Laboratoire d'Informatique de Marseille * * CNRS ESA 6077 * * Facult\'e des Sciences - case 901 * * 163 Avenue de Luminy * * 13288 MARSEILLE cedex 9 * * FRANCE * * Tel.: (33) 04.91.82.90.72 * * * ******************************************* From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 21 09:43:44 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08666 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 09:43:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA30685 for pdftex-list; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 11:39:47 -0400 Received: from extra.ucc.su.OZ.AU (extra.ucc.su.oz.au [129.78.64.4]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA30682 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 11:39:44 -0400 Received: from mail.usyd.edu.au (mp-8-16.mp.usyd.edu.au [129.78.57.78]) by extra.ucc.su.OZ.AU (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id BAA27071; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 01:38:40 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <360674C4.9114E0A8@mail.usyd.edu.au> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 01:46:12 +1000 From: Robert Howlett X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vladimir Volovich CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ttf2afm glitch References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Vladimir Volovich wrote: > > Hi, > > when ttf2afm is called with one argument --- font name (i.e. without > specifying the encoding name), it should produce an afm file which > contains info about all glyphs in the font with character codes set > to -1 (`not encoded'). > > However, when trying to run "ttf2afm cmr10.ttf", where cmr10.ttf was > taken from the BaKoMa collection > (CTAN:fonts/cm/ps-type1/bakoma/ttf/cmr10.ttf), the result was a bit > strange: all glyphs were `encoded' with the same code: 6. Maybe, some > other data was incorrect (please, check this). > > Best regards, -- Vladimir. I remember this came up a while ago. In fact Ulrik Vieth reported something similar on 7th May. Subsequently, Thanh modified ttf2afm. When I ran "ttf2afm cmr10.ttf" just now all the glyphs were correctly given code -1. The version of ttf2afm I'm using I downloaded on 7th June. Have you got a later one or an earlier one?? Bob From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 21 10:08:19 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09299 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 10:08:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA30754 for pdftex-list; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 12:01:36 -0400 Received: from cc.vsu.ru (root@ns.vsu.relarn.ru [194.226.24.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA30744 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 12:00:40 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cc.vsu.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id TAA23954 for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 19:58:46 +0400 Received: (from vvv@localhost) by vvv.vsu.ru (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA17332; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 19:58:29 +0400 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: problem with embedded type1 fonts From: Vladimir Volovich Date: 21 Sep 1998 19:58:29 +0400 Message-ID: Lines: 36 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070031 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.31) Emacs/20.3 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Using pdftex version 3.14159-0.12o-6-tiff3, i've got some problem described below. I created with the help of fontinst a virtual font which is T2A-encoded, and combines AMS CM type1 fonts and paradissa type1 fonts into one virtual font (in a similar way to the `ae' package). In this case the main parts of the virtual font were constructed with cmr10.pfb and cmcyr10.pfb. This virtual font works perfectly well with dvips (and previewing with ghostscript). But when i tried to use pdftex, i've got a broken PDF file. When running acroread on this file, i got the following error: Unable to find or create the font 'DFAAAA+cmcyr10'. Some characters may not display or print correctly. And the cyrillic glyphs were not displayed. Trying to preview the same PDF with ghostscript 5.10, i get a fatal error message, and nothing appears on the screen. In acroread, the document info/fonts displays the following: Original Type Encoding Used font Type font -------------------------------------------------- CMR7 Type 1 Custom Embedded Subset Type 1 CMTT8 Type 1 Custom Embedded Subset Type 1 CMR10 Type 1 Custom Embedded Subset Type 1 CMTI10 Type 1 Custom Embedded Subset Type 1 CMTT10 Type 1 Custom Embedded Subset Type 1 CMMI10 Type 1 Custom Embedded Subset Type 1 CMSY10 Type 1 Custom Embedded Subset Type 1 cmcyr10 Type 1 Built-in Helvetica Type 1 Could someone please help finding the reason of this error? I can provide all needed information on request. Best regards, -- Vladimir. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 21 10:19:34 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09662 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 10:19:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA30865 for pdftex-list; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 12:14:01 -0400 Received: from math.ams.org (math.ams.org [130.44.210.14]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA30862 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 12:14:00 -0400 Received: from sun06.ams.org by math.ams.org via smtpd (for tug.org [158.121.106.10]) with SMTP; 21 Sep 1998 16:13:59 UT Received: from sun06.ams.org by sun06.ams.org (PMDF V5.1-10 #27147) with SMTP id <0EZN0014J6FBRB@sun06.ams.org> for pdftex@tug.org; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 12:13:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 12:13:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky Subject: Re: CMACTEX In-reply-to: To: pdftex@tug.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > > I tried again with a short sample tex file. I set on the flag "Debug paths" > in Options menu of pdftex. > It searches for a ptmr8r.vf file! Of course, this file is not found and > maybe the problem occurs from that. > Yes, this would be the cause of your problems. You'll need to visit ftp://ctan.tug.org//tex-archive/fonts/psfonts/adobe/ (or your closet CTAN node/mirror) and pick up the Times virtual fonts, and install them where you'd install other VFs. Make sure that the VF path is set in pdfTeX (use the setup utility that comes with CMacTeX). Tom From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 21 10:24:29 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09910 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 10:24:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA30907 for pdftex-list; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 12:17:25 -0400 Received: from cc.vsu.ru (root@ns.vsu.relarn.ru [194.226.24.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA30904 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 12:17:11 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cc.vsu.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id UAA24085; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 20:14:23 +0400 Received: (from vvv@localhost) by vvv.vsu.ru (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA17928; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 20:14:07 +0400 To: Robert Howlett Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ttf2afm glitch References: <360674C4.9114E0A8@mail.usyd.edu.au> From: Vladimir Volovich Date: 21 Sep 1998 20:14:07 +0400 In-Reply-To: Robert Howlett's message of "Tue, 22 Sep 1998 01:46:12 +1000" Message-ID: Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070031 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.31) Emacs/20.3 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk "RH" == Robert Howlett writes: >> when ttf2afm is called with one argument --- font name >> (i.e. without specifying the encoding name), it should produce an >> afm file which contains info about all glyphs in the font with >> character codes set to -1 (`not encoded'). >> >> However, when trying to run "ttf2afm cmr10.ttf", where cmr10.ttf >> was taken from the BaKoMa collection >> (CTAN:fonts/cm/ps-type1/bakoma/ttf/cmr10.ttf), the result was a >> bit strange: all glyphs were `encoded' with the same code: >> 6. Maybe, some other data was incorrect (please, check this). RH> I remember this came up a while ago. In fact Ulrik Vieth reported RH> something similar on 7th May. Subsequently, Thanh modified RH> ttf2afm. When I ran "ttf2afm cmr10.ttf" just now all the glyphs RH> were correctly given code -1. The version of ttf2afm I'm using I RH> downloaded on 7th June. Have you got a later one or an earlier RH> one?? I think that i used the ttf2afm which comes with pdftex version 3.14159-0.12o-6-tiff3 (from August, 6). Best regards, -- Vladimir. -- The opossum is a very sophisticated animal. It doesn't even get up until 5 or 6 PM. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Sep 22 04:40:07 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA05505 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 04:40:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA32199 for pdftex-list; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 06:33:06 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA32196 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 06:33:04 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id LAA24198; hop 0; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:25:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:32:23 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13831.30213.445000.182215@SRAHTZ> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:03:49 +0100 ( `) To: kumpf@igd.fhg.de Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Hyperref, pdfTeX, and multicols (with fix) In-Reply-To: <36065EFC.78943B36@zgdv.de> References: <19980915203734338.AAA60@carl_zmola> <13823.29988.982000.667256@SRAHTZ> <36065EFC.78943B36@zgdv.de> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Christian Kumpf writes: > environments, i.e. establish grouping. now the subsubsection doesn't > know about it's parents and the left contents-menubar in acrobat reader > gets wrong. I've changed the definition of the labels in the macro > \@writetorep (hyperref.dtx, 1998/09/07 6.35, line 3877) to be a global > definition I dont see any reason to argue with this. I'll do it sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Sep 23 09:13:21 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15714 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 09:13:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA01506 for pdftex-list; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:52:44 -0400 Received: from dutian.twi.tudelft.nl (dutian.twi.tudelft.nl [130.161.157.46]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA01503 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:52:37 -0400 Received: from twi.tudelft.nl (abi@dutipd [130.161.157.23]) by dutian.twi.tudelft.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA20098 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 16:52:32 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <36090AF8.3D1B5472@twi.tudelft.nl> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 16:51:36 +0200 From: Ton Biegstraaten Organization: TU Delft X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Graphics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, When trying to convert a latex source to pdf I need to include eps drawings. The FAQ shows how to do it. I had a problem in converting it to a form pdflatex understood, somehow the distiller gave erroneous results, allthough acroread was able to show the file. Pdflatex gave errors on illegal characters. I finally converted the figure with pstoedit, that uses ghostview. Pdflatex was now able to read the file, but gave overfull hboxes and vbox. Reading in pdftex.def I saw pdftex 0.12n or later was needed. I found 0.12o-8, but the problem persists. I use the next file: \documentclass{article} \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} %\usepackage{hyperref} \begin{document} \DeclareGraphicsExtensions{.jpg,.pdf} \includegraphics{ex3ll.pdf} \end{document} The log file shows that 0.12o-8 was used, using pdflatex generated today. the file ex3ll.pdf has 614. and 794. (size probably). That numbers weren't there with 0.12h. I assume now that the conversion from eps to pdf forgets the boundingbox, is that common ? and how to let it remember this usefull information? Or am I missing something? Thanks. Ton -- Name: Ton Biegstraaten Tel : +31152782467 Org.: TU Delft, Faculty ITS Fax : +31152787141 Zuidplantsoen 4 Mail: A.Biegstraaten@twi.tudelft.nl 2628 BZ Delft, The Netherlands From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Sep 23 10:10:42 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17515 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:10:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA01775 for pdftex-list; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 12:05:32 -0400 Received: from hermes.ifad.dk (hermes.ifad.dk [130.225.136.3]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA01771 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 12:05:30 -0400 Received: from pc22.ifad.dk (erik@pc22.ifad.dk [130.225.136.122]) by hermes.ifad.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA23273 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 18:05:25 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by pc22.ifad.dk (8.7.5/client-1.3) id SAA29934; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 18:05:25 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Bad paperoffsets, etc... From: Erik Toubro Nielsen Date: 23 Sep 1998 18:05:25 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 31 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.39/Emacs 20.3 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Using pdflatex Version 3.14159-0.12o-6 from teTeX-0.9-980916-2). Problem 1. The output is moved down about 8mm (when printed from acroread) compared to the latex+dvips version. The pdftex.cfg is an unmodified one that contains ... page_width 210mm page_height 297mm horigin 1in vorigin 1in ... What can be wrong? Problem 2. When using \usepackage{hyperref}, the minitoc (or whatever its real name is) displayed at the left side of acrobat will contain e.g., "Using texttt{xyz}" from \section{Using \texttt{xyz}}. Is there any workaround for this, except for not using macros in section commands? Problem 3. How do you make a document "portable" to both latex & pdflatex such that when using pdflatex the option pdftex is given to \usepackage[]{graphics} and the \DeclareGraphicsExtensions{.jpg,.pdf,.mps,.png} is invoked after begin{document}; when using latex dvips should be given to \usepackage[]{graphics}, and no graphics extensions need to be declared? -- Erik Toubro Nielsen, From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Sep 23 10:11:34 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17536 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:11:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA01735 for pdftex-list; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 12:01:26 -0400 Received: from extra.ucc.su.OZ.AU (extra.ucc.su.oz.au [129.78.64.4]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA01731 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 12:01:23 -0400 Received: from mail.usyd.edu.au (mp-11-36.mp.usyd.edu.au [129.78.58.36]) by extra.ucc.su.OZ.AU (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id CAA11435 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 02:01:19 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <36091D16.2102E872@mail.usyd.edu.au> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 02:08:54 +1000 From: Robert Howlett X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ttf2afm glitch References: <360674C4.9114E0A8@mail.usyd.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Vladimir Volovich wrote: > > "RH" == Robert Howlett writes: > > >> when ttf2afm is called with one argument --- font name > >> (i.e. without specifying the encoding name), it should produce an > >> afm file which contains info about all glyphs in the font with > >> character codes set to -1 (`not encoded'). > >> > >> However, when trying to run "ttf2afm cmr10.ttf", where cmr10.ttf > >> was taken from the BaKoMa collection > >> (CTAN:fonts/cm/ps-type1/bakoma/ttf/cmr10.ttf), the result was a > >> bit strange: all glyphs were `encoded' with the same code: > >> 6. Maybe, some other data was incorrect (please, check this). > > RH> I remember this came up a while ago. In fact Ulrik Vieth reported > RH> something similar on 7th May. Subsequently, Thanh modified > RH> ttf2afm. When I ran "ttf2afm cmr10.ttf" just now all the glyphs > RH> were correctly given code -1. The version of ttf2afm I'm using I > RH> downloaded on 7th June. Have you got a later one or an earlier > RH> one?? > > I think that i used the ttf2afm which comes with pdftex > version 3.14159-0.12o-6-tiff3 (from August, 6). > > Best regards, -- Vladimir. So a correction that Thanh made must have somehow been undone subsequently. Bob From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Sep 23 11:56:08 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20629 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 11:56:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA02549 for pdftex-list; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 13:44:35 -0400 Received: from mailman.campbellsci.com (mailman.campbellsci.com [207.201.118.3]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA02546 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 13:44:34 -0400 Received: from carl_zmola ([207.201.118.7]) by mailman.campbellsci.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with SMTP id AAA258; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 11:43:08 -0600 From: "Carl Zmola" To: Erik Toubro Nielsen Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 11:40:12 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Bad paperoffsets, etc... Reply-to: zmola@campbellsci.com CC: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: Message-ID: <19980923174308046.AAA258@carl_zmola> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > From: Erik Toubro Nielsen > > Problem 1. The output is moved down about 8mm (when printed from acroread) > compared to the latex+dvips version. The pdftex.cfg is an unmodified > one that contains > ... > page_width 210mm > page_height 297mm > horigin 1in > vorigin 1in > ... > > What can be wrong? could this be printing to letter paper. See the faq 5.2.3 http://tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdfTeX-FAQ.pdf > > Problem 2. When using \usepackage{hyperref}, the minitoc (or whatever > its real name is) displayed at the left side of acrobat will contain > e.g., "Using texttt{xyz}" from \section{Using \texttt{xyz}}. Is there > any workaround for this, except for not using macros in section > commands? You can modify one of 'funny' files by hand (.toc .aux ... ) I can't remember which one, but this isn't a very good solution since it would need to be re-done every time. There must be a better way. > Problem 3. How do you make a document "portable" to both latex & > pdflatex such that when using pdflatex the option pdftex is given to > \usepackage[]{graphics} and the > \DeclareGraphicsExtensions{.jpg,.pdf,.mps,.png} is invoked after > begin{document}; when using latex dvips should be given to > \usepackage[]{graphics}, and no graphics extensions need to be > declared? ------------------------------------ Piet van Oostrum responded to a message in the hyperlatex mailing list: >>>>> "Thomas F. Rutherford" (TFR) writes: TFR> I have a hyperlatex document which I use to produce html, pdf and ps TFR> output. I want to automate the build, but I don't know how to avoid TFR> entering/removing comments on two lines: TFR> \pdfcompresslevel=9 TFR> \pdfoutput=1 TFR> Does anyone know how to LaTeX code which performs the task: TFR> "if running PDFLATEX is running then set pdfcompresslevel and pdfoutput" TFR> otherwise skip them? \ifx\pdfoutput\pdfcompresslevel \else\pdfcompresslevel=0\pdfoutput=1 \fi If running LaTeX they are both undefined, if running pdflatex they are different things. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You might be able to use this to change your documentclass statement. Carl zmola@campbellsci.com From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Sep 23 12:22:11 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21358 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 12:22:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA02687 for pdftex-list; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 14:11:23 -0400 Received: from mailman.campbellsci.com (mailman.campbellsci.com [207.201.118.3]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA02684 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 14:11:22 -0400 Received: from carl_zmola ([207.201.118.7]) by mailman.campbellsci.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with SMTP id AAA258 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 12:09:49 -0600 From: "Carl Zmola" To: pdftex@tug.org Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 12:06:53 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Graphics Reply-to: zmola@campbellsci.com Message-ID: <19980923180948888.AAA258@carl_zmola> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > From: Ton Biegstraaten > Hi, > > When trying to convert a latex source to pdf I need to include eps > drawings. The FAQ shows how to do it. > I had a problem in converting it to a form pdflatex understood, somehow > the distiller gave erroneous results, allthough acroread was able to > show the file. I have seen this problem and Sebastian Rahtz wrote the following: ---- you need to transform the EPS file so that the page size is the same as the bounding box (Distiller does not do what you might expect). see http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/epstopdf.pl for a utility to do this. ---- > Pdflatex gave errors on illegal characters. I finally > converted the figure with pstoedit, that uses ghostview. Pdflatex was > now able to read the file, but gave overfull hboxes and vbox. > Reading in pdftex.def I saw pdftex 0.12n or later was needed. I found > 0.12o-8, but the problem persists. does acrobat display the pdf image? Only the stuff within the bounding box should show up. Try the epstopdf mentioned above. > I use the next file: > \documentclass{article} > \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} > %\usepackage{hyperref} > \begin{document} > \DeclareGraphicsExtensions{.jpg,.pdf} > \includegraphics{ex3ll.pdf} > \end{document} This appears to correct. What does the resulting output look like? It should still produce output. > The log file shows that 0.12o-8 was used, using pdflatex generated > today. the file ex3ll.pdf has 614. and 794. (size probably). That > numbers weren't there with 0.12h. I assume now that the conversion from > eps to pdf forgets the boundingbox, is that common ? and how to let it > remember this usefull information? Or am I missing something? see Sebastian's comment above about the bounding box. It stays in the file, but the bounding box must start at 0,0. If you get it working, let me know what you did. I'm still waiting for some time to install a later version of pdftex. Carl Carl zmola@campbellsci.com From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Sep 23 14:21:05 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA24420 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 14:21:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA02953 for pdftex-list; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 16:11:08 -0400 Received: from kraken.apl.washington.edu (kraken97.apl.washington.edu [128.95.97.25]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA02950 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 16:11:07 -0400 Received: from galiano (galiano.apl.washington.edu [128.95.97.152]) by kraken.apl.washington.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA29451; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 13:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809232011.NAA29451@kraken.apl.washington.edu> From: "Jody Klymak" To: , Subject: RE: Graphics Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 13:14:07 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: <19980923180948888.AAA258@carl_zmola> Importance: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > From: owner-pdftex@tug.org [mailto:owner-pdftex@tug.org] On Behalf Of > Carl Zmola > I have seen this problem and > Sebastian Rahtz wrote the following: > ---- > you need to transform the EPS file so that the page size is the same > as the bounding box (Distiller does not do what you might expect). see > http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/epstopdf.pl for a utility to do > this. > ---- Note that this is now http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/epstopdf for some reason. Cheers, Jody From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Sep 23 15:53:44 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA27134 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 15:53:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA03410 for pdftex-list; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:42:29 -0400 Received: from lhe.physics.lsa.umich.edu (sanders@lhe.physics.lsa.umich.edu [141.211.96.32]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA03406 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:42:24 -0400 Received: (from sanders@localhost) by lhe.physics.lsa.umich.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA03691 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:42:18 -0400 Message-ID: <19980923174218.A3253@umich.edu> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:42:18 -0400 From: Michael Sanders To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Ghostscript 5.50 Reply-To: Michael Sanders Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Aladdin ghostscript 5.50 is available (including rpm's in ftp://ftp.cs.wisc.edu/ghost/aladdin/gs550/linux/) Has anyone tested epstopdf with it? -- (T.) Michael Sanders internet: sanders@umich.edu Physics Department URL: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~sanders University of Michigan phone: 734/936-0799 Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1120 FAX: 734/764-6843 From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Sep 23 15:53:44 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA27134 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 15:53:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA03410 for pdftex-list; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:42:29 -0400 Received: from lhe.physics.lsa.umich.edu (sanders@lhe.physics.lsa.umich.edu [141.211.96.32]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA03406 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:42:24 -0400 Received: (from sanders@localhost) by lhe.physics.lsa.umich.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA03691 for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:42:18 -0400 Message-ID: <19980923174218.A3253@umich.edu> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:42:18 -0400 From: Michael Sanders To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Ghostscript 5.50 Reply-To: Michael Sanders Mail-Followup-To: pdftex@tug.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Aladdin ghostscript 5.50 is available (including rpm's in ftp://ftp.cs.wisc.edu/ghost/aladdin/gs550/linux/) Has anyone tested epstopdf with it? -- (T.) Michael Sanders internet: sanders@umich.edu Physics Department URL: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~sanders University of Michigan phone: 734/936-0799 Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1120 FAX: 734/764-6843 From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Sep 24 02:21:40 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA10677 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 02:21:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA04113 for pdftex-list; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 04:08:55 -0400 Received: from ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr (ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.232.33]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA04110 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 04:08:53 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03569; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:08:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id KAA08491; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:09:32 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:09:32 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199809240809.KAA08491@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: "Jody Klymak" Cc: "Erik Toubro Nielsen" , Subject: RE: Bad paperoffsets, etc... In-Reply-To: <199809231658.JAA25903@kraken.apl.washington.edu> References: <199809231658.JAA25903@kraken.apl.washington.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Concernant « RE: Bad paperoffsets, etc... », Jody Klymak écrit : « » % are we using pdftex or normaltex » \newif\ifpdf » \ifx\pdfoutput\undefined » \pdffalse » \else » \pdfoutput=1 » \pdftrue » \fi » although that \pdf switch may be usefull, i don't see the point in forcing compresslevel & pdfoutput: isn't it the task of pdftex.cfg? From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Sep 24 03:18:49 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA11856 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 03:18:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA04361 for pdftex-list; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 05:08:25 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA04358 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 05:08:24 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id KAA22567; hop 0; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:01:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:07:40 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13834.249.825000.561448@SRAHTZ> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 09:21:13 +0100 ( `) To: erik@ifad.dk Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Bad paperoffsets, etc... In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Erik Toubro Nielsen writes: > Problem 2. When using \usepackage{hyperref}, the minitoc (or whatever > its real name is) displayed at the left side of acrobat will contain > e.g., "Using texttt{xyz}" from \section{Using \texttt{xyz}}. Is there > any workaround for this, except for not using macros in section > commands? see the documentation. you can edit the .out file file, and thats about it. sorry, no way I can make this work, its an Acrobat feature. > Problem 3. How do you make a document "portable" to both latex & > pdflatex such that when using pdflatex the option pdftex is given to > \usepackage[]{graphics} and the have a graphics.cfg saying \@ifundefined{pdfoutput}{\ExecuteOptions{dvips}}{\ExecuteOptions{pdftex}} sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Sep 24 03:19:39 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA11881 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 03:19:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA04390 for pdftex-list; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 05:11:21 -0400 Received: from relay1.jet.msk.su (relay1.jet.msk.su [194.87.88.34]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id FAA04387 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 05:11:18 -0400 Received: from tiger (tiger.jet.msk.su) [193.124.4.1] by relay1.jet.msk.su with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 0zM7Qf-0000oK-00; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:11:13 +0400 Received: from goliath.service.jet.msk.su [192.168.10.29] (root) by tiger.jet.msk.su with smtp (Exim 1.73 #2) id 0zM7Qe-0005Ip-00; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:11:12 +0400 Received: from jet.msk.su by jet.msk.su ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:11:10 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Michael Sanders cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Ghostscript 5.50 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:11:09 +0400 From: Boris Tobotras Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:42:18 EDT, Michael Sanders wrote: > Aladdin ghostscript 5.50 is available (including rpm's in > ftp://ftp.cs.wisc.edu/ghost/aladdin/gs550/linux/) > > Has anyone tested epstopdf with it? Yes. Works nicely. -- Best regards, -- Boris. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Sep 24 13:26:53 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA25627 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:26:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA05330 for pdftex-list; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 15:18:47 -0400 Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA05327 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 15:18:44 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.21.90]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA6210; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 21:13:26 +0200 Message-ID: <360A91C8.A8DF21E@wxs.nl> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 20:39:04 +0200 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ton Biegstraaten CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Graphics References: <36090AF8.3D1B5472@twi.tudelft.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Ton Biegstraaten wrote: > The log file shows that 0.12o-8 was used, using pdflatex generated > today. the file ex3ll.pdf has 614. and 794. (size probably). That > numbers weren't there with 0.12h. I assume now that the conversion from > eps to pdf forgets the boundingbox, is that common ? and how to let it > remember this usefull information? Or am I missing something? Gets texutil.pl from www.ntg.nl/context and say texutil --fig --epspage file.eps and the file is corrected for distiller. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Sep 24 13:27:53 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA25662 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:27:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA05324 for pdftex-list; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 15:16:27 -0400 Received: from kraken.apl.washington.edu (kraken.apl.washington.edu [128.95.97.25]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA05321 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 15:16:25 -0400 Received: from galiano (galiano.apl.washington.edu [128.95.97.152]) by kraken.apl.washington.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA13342; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 12:16:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809241916.MAA13342@kraken.apl.washington.edu> From: "Jody Klymak" To: "Pdftex@Tug. Org" Cc: "Sebastian Rahtz" Subject: pdfTeX-FAQ v0.09 Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 12:19:23 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: <13834.2613.804000.862338@SRAHTZ> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi All, Sebastian has kindly uploaded version 0.09 of the FAQ to: http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdfTeX-FAQ.pdf http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdfTeX-FAQ.tex and I am including the txt version below. Please keep sending FAQ questions and answers. The section on Fonts is *especially* bare! At the suggestion of Colin Marquardt mailto:941etcm@gwfs.stud.fh-jena.de, I changed the format of \question *again* to include a date paramter. This will allow some smart person to implement version tracking. I also created a \contributor command. This allows *me* to keep track of who contributed what in the Contributor list at the back. BTW, if you contributed, I may have lost track of your contribution, so please check the faq and send me corrections. Entries for the FAQ should look like this: \question{This_is_a_template_faq_question}{This is a template faq question}{1998/09/24} { \contributor{Pavel Jan\'{\i}k jr}{mailto:Pavel.Janik@inet.cz}{1998/09/10 \contributor{Jody Klymak}{mailto:jklymak@apl.washington.edu}{1998/09/24} This is a sample FAQ question. It can reference other questions, like Question \ref{q:what_is_TeX}, or sections (See Section \ref{sec:General}). This FAQ can be found at \url{http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdfTeX-FAQ.pdf}, and is maintained by Jody Klymak \url{mailto:jklymak@apl.washington.edu} } Cheers, Jody *************************************************************** Jody Klymak APL/School of Oceanography, University of Washington jklymak@apl.washington.edu (206)-685-9080 http://www.ocean.washington.edu/people/grads/jklymak/Klymak.html The pdfTeX FAQ Version 0.09 Maintained by: Jody M. Klymak mailto:jklymak@apl.washington.edu September 23, 1998 Abstract This document is a preliminary version of pdfTeX's frequently asked questions (FAQ) and answers. If you can contribute to this document, please mail Jody Klymak (mailto:jklymak@apl.washington.edu) or pdf- TeX's mailing list (mailto:pdftex@tug.org). Including the key FAQ in the subject line of your contribution will help the FAQ maintainer stay organized. This document is in TeX syntax. The character set is ISO-8859-2. OcThis document is freely distributable. Contents 1 General 3 1.1 TeX and PDF . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 1.1.1 What is pdfTeX? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 1.1.2 What is TeX? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 1.1.3 What is PDF? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 1.1.4 How can I view a PDF file? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 1.2 Authors . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * * 4 1.2.1 Who is the author of pdfTeX? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 2 Information 4 2.1 Locations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * * 4 2.1.1 Where can I find pdfTeX? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 2.1.2 What is the latest version? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 2.1.3 Where can I find some docs about pdfTeX? . . . . . . . 5 2.1.4 Is there a pdfTeX mailing list? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 1 2.1.5 Where can I find an archive of the pdfTeX mailing list? . 6 2.1.6 How do I get new versions of this FAQ? . . . . . . . . . 6 3 Installation 6 3.1 General Installation . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .* * 6 3.1.1 How do I install the latest version of pdfTeX? . . . . . . 6 3.1.2 How do I use pdflatex (how to generate pdflatex.fmt)? . . 6 3.1.3 Why use pdflatex vs (??? i.e. latex2html)? . . . . . . . . 6 3.1.4 How do I compress my PDF files? . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 3.1.5 What can I do with this pdftex.cfg file? . . . . . . . . . . 7 3.1.6 How can I make a document portable to both latex and pdflatex . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * * 7 4 Fonts in pdfTeX 8 4.1 Fonts in general . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * * 8 4.1.1 What kind of fonts can I use? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 4.2 Type1 fonts . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * * 8 4.2.1 How do I use Type1 fonts? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 4.2.2 How do I generate TFM files for Type1 fonts? . . . . . . 8 4.3 TrueType fonts . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * * 8 4.3.1 How do I use TrueType fonts? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 4.3.2 How do I generate TFM files for TrueType fonts? . . . . 8 4.4 pk fonts . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * * 8 4.4.1 How do I use pk fonts? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 4.4.2 Why does Acrobat Reader display pk fonts so poorly? . . 8 5 Graphics 8 5.1 Graphics in general . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * * 8 5.1.1 How do I include pictures in pdfLaTeX? . . . . . . . . . 8 5.2 Vector Formats . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * * 9 5.2.1 How do I include PDF pictures? . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 5.2.2 How do I include EPS pictures? . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 5.2.3 How do I convert an EPS figure to PDF? . . . . . . . . . 9 5.3 Bitmap Formats . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10 5.3.1 How do I include TIFF pictures? . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10 5.4 Other Graphics . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * *10 5.4.1 How can I use MetaPost in pdfTeX? . . . . . . . . . . . 10 2 6 Miscellaneous 10 6.1 Kpathsea . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * * 10 6.1.1 What is this kpathsea? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10 6.2 Hyperref . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * * 10 6.2.1 What is hyperref? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10 6.2.2 How can I use it? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10 6.2.3 My pdftex.cfg says to use A4 paper, but the document comes out in Letter format. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10 6.2.4 I get the message: "Warning (ext1): destination with the same identifier already exists!" . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11 6.3 ConTeXt . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11 6.3.1 What is ConTeXt? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11 6.3.2 How can I use ConTeXt? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11 A Contributors 11 1 General 1.1 TeX and PDF 1.1.1 What is pdfTeX? pdfTeX is a variant of well known typesetting program of prof. Donald E. Knuth - TeX. Output of Knuth's TeX is a file in DVI format. The difference between TeX and pdfTeX is that pdfTeX directly generates PDF. You can also create PDF with Adobe's Distiller program, using a DVI to PostScript program to create PS from TeX's DVI file. WARNING: pdfTeX is alpha software! 1.1.2 What is TeX? >From `TeX - The Program' by Donald E. Knuth: "This is TeX, a document com- piler intended to produce typesetting of high quality". TeX is a batch oriented typesetting system. When we talk about TeX we mean the macro programming language as well as the program that interprets and exe- cuted this language. 1.1.3 What is PDF? This question is answered in the Adobe Systems' document Portable Document Format Reference Manual available at http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/ 3 devrelations/PDFS/TN/PDFSPEC.PDF on page 27. It can not be repro- duced here for strange copyright reasons. Think of PDF as PostScript without programming constructs. A PDF file con- sists of graphical objects tight together in such a way that fast viewing is po* *ssible and incremental updates become possible. 1.1.4 How can I view a PDF file? There are several .pdf readers available as freeware over the internet. Adobe's Acrobat Reader is available for many operating systems, including Windows 95, NT, and 3.1, Macintosh, Linux, Sun, and OS/2. Download the self-installing executabale from Adobe's website: http://www.adobe.com/ prodindex/acrobat/. Ghostscipt is a .ps interpreter and Ghostview is its graphical front-end. Gh* *ostscript is also available for many operating systems, including UNIX and VMS, MS-DOS, MS-Windows, OS/2 and Macintosh. See the Ghostscript homepage at http: //www.cs.wisc.edu/"ghost/ for details, documentation, and downloads. Another previewer is xpdf, a PDF viewer for X maintained by Derek B. Noon- burg (mailto:derekn@aimnet.com) with a home page at http://www. aimnet.com/"derekn/xpdf. Xpdf runs under the X Window System on UNIX, VMS, and OS/2 and is designed to be small and efficient. It does not use the Motif or Xt libraries and only uses standard X fonts. [FIXME: some words about Xpdf and other PDF vievers] 1.2 Authors 1.2.1 Who is the author of pdfTeX? The primary author of pdfTeX is Han The Thanh (mailto:thanh@fi.muni. cz). [FIXME: in pdftex.ch there is also Petr Sojka and the current head (rector* *) of Masaryk's University - prof. Jiri Zlatuska.] 2 Information 2.1 Locations 2.1.1 Where can I find pdfTeX? [FIXME: ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/-janik,thanh" daily mirror on ftp://ftp.inet.cz/pub/Mirrors/pdfTeX 4 2.1.2 What is the latest version? The latest version of pdfTeX is pdfTeX-0.12n. This is the latest version of pdf* *TeX approved by Han The Thanh (for now). After this version the primary author (Han The Thanh) left Czech Republic and is away for about three or four months. When he comes back, he will continue on the pdfTeX's development. In the meantime pdfTeX's maintainer is Pavel Janik ml (he is also student of Masaryk's Universi* *ty). He releases bug-fixes to pdfTeX-0.12n as versions pdfTeX-0.12o-?, where `?' is a small number. The latest bug-fix release is pdfTeX-0.12o-6. 2.1.3 Where can I find some docs about pdfTeX? A website for the pdfTeX project is maintained by Sebastian Rahtz (mailto: s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk), and can be found at: http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/ In it you will find: o The pdfTeX manual in PDF format: http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftexman.pdf and HTML format: http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftexman.html o The pdfTeX mailing list archives: http://tug.org/ListsArchives/pdftex/threads.html o This FAQ in PDF format: http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdfTeX-FAQ.pdf and DVI format: http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/ pdfTeX-FAQ.dvi [FIXME: The best documentation is in the source files...] 2.1.4 Is there a pdfTeX mailing list? Yes, to subscribe send mail to mailto:majordomo@tug.org, and put the line: subscribe pdftex username@hostname in the body of the message, where username@hostname is your complete email address. 5 2.1.5 Where can I find an archive of the pdfTeX mailing list? An ftp site of the mailing list, arranged chronologicaly can be found at: ftp: //ftp.tug.org/mail-archives/pdftex/ Daily mirror is also at ftp: //ftp.inet.cz/pub/Mirrors/pdfTeX-MailArchive/ 2.1.6 How do I get new versions of this FAQ? The TeX version of this document is periodically posted to pdfTeX's mailing lis* *t. It is also uploaded to http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdfTeX-FAQ.pdf and DVI format: http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdfTeX-FAQ. dvi 3 Installation 3.1 General Installation 3.1.1 How do I install the latest version of pdfTeX? [FIXME: see script Install and comment it!, add some URLS of web-*, web2c-*, ...] 3.1.2 How do I use pdflatex (how to generate pdflatex.fmt)? 3.1.3 Why use pdflatex vs (??? i.e. latex2html)? 3.1.4 How do I compress my PDF files? pdfTeX can compress its output, but by default pdfTeX does not (depending on your configuration). You can manually specify compression from 0 to 9 in the source file by the tag "pdfcompresslevel: "pdfcompresslevel9 or in the configuration file (pdftex.cfg): compress_level 9 0 means no compression and 9 is the most (and the slowest) compression. 6 3.1.5 What can I do with this pdftex.cfg file? 3.1.6 How can I make a document portable to both latex and pdflatex Check for the existence of the variable "pdfoutput: "newif"ifpdf "ifx"pdfoutput"undefined "pdffalse % we are not running PDFLaTeX "else "pdfoutput=1 % we are running PDFLaTeX "pdftrue "fi Then use your new variable "ifpdf "ifpdf "usepackage[pdftex]-graphicx" "pdfcompresslevel=9 "else "usepackage-graphicx" "fi 7 4 Fonts in pdfTeX 4.1 Fonts in general 4.1.1 What kind of fonts can I use? 4.2 Type1 fonts 4.2.1 How do I use Type1 fonts? 4.2.2 How do I generate TFM files for Type1 fonts? 4.3 TrueType fonts 4.3.1 How do I use TrueType fonts? 4.3.2 How do I generate TFM files for TrueType fonts? 4.4 pk fonts 4.4.1 How do I use pk fonts? 4.4.2 Why does Acrobat Reader display pk fonts so poorly? 5 Graphics 5.1 Graphics in general 5.1.1 How do I include pictures in pdfLaTeX? Pictures come in two formats, vector or bitmapped. When possible, use vector fo* *r- mats when making a PDF document since they can support an arbitrary ammount of magnification. So far, pdfLaTeX supports graphics inclusions in PDF, JPEG, PNG, and MetaPost formats [FIXME: what others. Also which are vector or not?] As with LaTeX, the best package for image inclusion is graphics/graphicx, available on CTAN. In order to get the graphicx package working with pdflatex you must get http://tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def and put it in your TeX tree (mine is at C:"TeX"share"texmf"tex"latex" graphics). Then some slight modifications to your source file: %% In the preamble add "usepackage[pdftex]-graphicx" %% OPTIONAL: In the main document, immediately af- ter "begin-document" "DeclareGraphicsExtensions-.jpg,.pdf,.mps,.png" 8 %% To include a graphics file "includegraphics-filename_to_include" The package will then search for the filename with the above extensions if one isn't provided. With this package the image can also be scaled or cropped. This uses D. Carlisle's "graphics" package and is available on CTAN at /macros/ latex/packages/graphics. Note that by not including file-extensions in the "includegraphics command, you can maintain PDF and DVI versions of your document, especially if you include postscript figures (see question 5.2.2* * and question 3.1.6) 5.2 Vector Formats 5.2.1 How do I include PDF pictures? 5.2.2 How do I include EPS pictures? You cannot directly do so. You must convert encapsulated postscript pictures to PDF first, explained in question 5.2.3, and then include them (see question 5.2* *.1) 5.2.3 How do I convert an EPS figure to PDF? You can use epstopdf (a Perl script which uses Ghostscript for conversion) at http://tug.org/applications/pdftex/epstopdf or Distiller to do the work for you. [FIXME: add an example here] To use epstopdf, you need Perl 5. Usage of epstopdf is easy: epstopdf.pl myfile.eps converts your eps-graphic file myfile.eps to the file myfile.pdf. Valid options for epstopdf (v2.1) are: [FIXME] Change the line $GS="gs"; in this script to the name of your Ghostscript executable if it is different* *, e.g. $GS="gswin32c"; on a Win32 system. On some systems it is necessary to invoke Perl explicitly, e.g. with perl epstopdf.pl myfile.eps 9 5.3 Bitmap Formats 5.3.1 How do I include TIFF pictures? 5.4 Other Graphics 5.4.1 How can I use MetaPost in pdfTeX? 6 Miscellaneous 6.1 Kpathsea 6.1.1 What is this kpathsea? 6.2 Hyperref 1998/09/10 6.2.1 What is hyperref? The hyperref package is a way of adding hyper-references to a LaTeX document. For instance, a reference to a figure in the text can be marked up with a hyper- link, allowing the user to jump to the figure without scrolling through a lot of text. [FIXME: but for now see the hyperref package documentation hyperref.dvi or manual.pdf] The hyperref package is available on CTAN (or a CTAN mirror) at ftp:// ftp.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/supported/ hyperref 6.2.2 How can I use it? [FIXME: but for now see the hyperref package documentation hyperref.dvi or man- ual.pdf] 6.2.3 My pdftex.cfg says to use A4 paper, but the document comes out in Letter format. You certainly use hyperref. This package sets the page dimensions according to your settings in LaTeX. If you do not specify "a4paper" in your options to "documentclass, it assumes Letter paper and overrides the entries in your pdftex.cfg file. 10 6.2.4 I get the message: "Warning (ext1): destination with the same identi- fier already exists!" You get this message if you use hyperref and have some page numbers more than once, e.g. when re-starting page numbering with each chapter or having an ap- pendix. Circumvent this with "usepackage[pdftex,plainpages=false]-hyperref" or put plainpages=false into your hyperref.cfg. 6.3 ConTeXt 6.3.1 What is ConTeXt? ConTeXt is a full featured macro package that has build in support for pdfTeX. More information can be found at http://www.ntg.nl/context (manuals, source code, examples). 6.3.2 How can I use ConTeXt? A Contributors o Christian Kumpf -mailto:kumpf@igd.fhg.de" Q3.1.6-7 o Jody Klymak -jklymak@apl.washington.edu" Q2.1.3-5 Q2.1.4-5 Q2.1.5-6 Q2.1.6-6 Q5.1.1-8 Q5.2.2-9 o Michael Sanders -mailto:sanders@umich.edu" Q1.1.4-4 o Pavel Janik jr -mailto:Pavel.Janik@inet.cz" Q1.1.1-3 Q1.1.2-3 Q1.1.3-3 Q1.2.1-4 Q2.1.1-4 Q2.1.2-5 Q3.1.1-6 Q3.1.4-6 Q5.2.3-9 Q6.2.1-10 Q6.2.3-10 Q6.2.4-11 Q6.3.1-11 o Steve Phipps -mailto:slpp@ix.netcom.com" Q1.1.4-4 11 From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Sep 24 13:34:38 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA25841 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:34:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA05334 for pdftex-list; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 15:18:56 -0400 Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA05331 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 15:18:54 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.21.90]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA621F; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 21:13:34 +0200 Message-ID: <360A950F.A293F8B0@wxs.nl> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 20:53:03 +0200 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thierry Bouche CC: Jody Klymak , Erik Toubro Nielsen , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Bad paperoffsets, etc... References: <199809231658.JAA25903@kraken.apl.washington.edu> <199809240809.KAA08491@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id PAA05332 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Thierry Bouche wrote: > > Concernant « RE: Bad paperoffsets, etc... », Jody Klymak écrit : « > » % are we using pdftex or normaltex > » \newif\ifpdf > » \ifx\pdfoutput\undefined > » \pdffalse > » \else > » \pdfoutput=1 > » \pdftrue > » \fi > » > > although that \pdf switch may be usefull, i don't see the point in > forcing compresslevel & pdfoutput: isn't it the task of pdftex.cfg? I won't go into details, but both methods are dangerous and wrong. The =1 in the pdftex.cfg is definitely the wrong default! Given some fundamental differences between pdf and dvi, the macro package should do the switch, depending on the users wishes. There is often more to setup than the output only (given that you want to use pdf properly). Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Sep 25 03:44:33 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA14109 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 03:44:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA06407 for pdftex-list; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 05:33:08 -0400 Received: from ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr (ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.232.33]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA06404 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 05:33:06 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA22157 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:32:46 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id LAA14013; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:33:38 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:33:38 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199809250933.LAA14013@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Bad paperoffsets, etc... In-Reply-To: <360A950F.A293F8B0@wxs.nl> References: <199809231658.JAA25903@kraken.apl.washington.edu> <199809240809.KAA08491@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <360A950F.A293F8B0@wxs.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Concernant « Re: Bad paperoffsets, etc... », Hans Hagen écrit : « » > although that \pdf switch may be usefull, i don't see the point in » > forcing compresslevel & pdfoutput: isn't it the task of pdftex.cfg? » » I won't go into details, but both methods are dangerous and wrong. The » =1 in the pdftex.cfg is definitely the wrong default! you use pdftex in dvi mode. I believe most people use pdftex only in pdf mode, it's more or less forced on TeX Live, e.g. (whose graphics.cfg interprets pdftex engine as pdf output request). I agree that there is no need for 2 binaries though, but it is simple to manage that way. BTW touching pdftex.cfg doesn't require to go to the Texmf tree! you can have as many pdftex.cfg as required for specific needs in specific directories (assuming the search path is something like .:{personnal texmf tree}:{texmf tree standard location}) Thierry Bouche. ----- thierry.bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr http://www-fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr/~bouche/pdfTeX From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Sep 25 06:12:09 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA16682 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 06:12:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA06664 for pdftex-list; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:05:26 -0400 Received: from monster.igd.fhg.de (monster.igd.fhg.de [153.97.128.43]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA06661 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:04:38 -0400 Received: from smurfsoft.dauenhauer.de (isdn33) by monster.igd.fhg.de (5.x/SMI-4.1) id AA05033; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 14:04:08 +0200 Received: from zgdv.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smurfsoft.dauenhauer.de (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA01584 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 14:04:03 +0200 Message-Id: <360B86B3.95D6CE15@zgdv.de> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 14:04:03 +0200 From: Christian Kumpf Organization: ZGDV X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.35 i586) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Two TeX binaries [Was: Bad paperoffsets, etc...] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------D1FA76EE8C4C5CD969630075" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D1FA76EE8C4C5CD969630075 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------D1FA76EE8C4C5CD969630075 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Message-ID: <360B8691.8597FE25@zgdv.de> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 14:03:29 +0200 From: Christian Kumpf Organization: ZGDV X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.35 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thierry Bouche Subject: Two TeX binaries [Was: Bad paperoffsets, etc...] References: <199809231658.JAA25903@kraken.apl.washington.edu> <199809240809.KAA08491@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <360A950F.A293F8B0@wxs.nl> <199809250933.LAA14013@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thierry Bouche wrote: > I agree that there is no need for 2 binaries though, but it is simple > to manage that way. The only way I know, to ensure, that a document is still processable by `normal TeX': process it with normal TeX. And it isn't avery convinient way to switch between two modes, if I allways have to edit the config-file or the source. I currently have two TeX-trees with together 90MB disk-space plus 150 MB for fonts, so I won't care about this extra MB for the second binary and format.. Christian --------------D1FA76EE8C4C5CD969630075-- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Sep 25 07:13:17 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17773 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 07:13:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA06835 for pdftex-list; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:06:11 -0400 Received: from kali.coe.uga.edu (ecashin@kali.coe.uga.edu [128.192.22.62]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA06832 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:06:10 -0400 From: ecashin@kali.coe.uga.edu Received: from localhost (ecashin@localhost) by kali.coe.uga.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA01327 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:06:16 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:06:14 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: ecashin@kali.coe.uga.edu To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: pdftex and fonts Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello. Yesterday I struggled through the pdftex installation process, finally typesetting a pdf document. However, there were some errors: << Warning: pdftex (file cmr9.pfb): cannot open Type 1 font file for reading Warning: pdftex (file cmr9.pfb): cannot read key `FontName' from font file used value from map file Warning: pdftex (file cmbx10.pfb): cannot open Type 1 font file for reading Warning: pdftex (file cmbx10.pfb): cannot read key `FontName' from font file used value from map file >> I am using the tetex distribution on Linux. I have the cm fonts, but I don't see any .pfb files, so I downloaded the Bluesky and Bakoma fonts after seeing a post in the mail archives about a problem similar to mine. Do I really need to install Bluesky and Bakoma if I've been using cm fonts in TeX all along? (Regular tetex TeX producing dvi.) And if I do, where should I put them? There doesn't seem to be any documentation. My $TEXMF is /usr/lib/texmf/texmf, and my fonts are in /usr/lib/texmf/texmf/fonts. There are several subdirectories in the fonts directory: afm source tfm type1 vf Any help would be greatly appreciated. --Ed Cashin ecashin@kali.coe.uga.edu From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Sep 25 08:16:36 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA19085 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:16:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA07029 for pdftex-list; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:09:48 -0400 Received: from hermes.ifad.dk (hermes.ifad.dk [130.225.136.3]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA07026 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:09:46 -0400 Received: from pc22.ifad.dk (erik@pc22.ifad.dk [130.225.136.122]) by hermes.ifad.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06448 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 16:09:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by pc22.ifad.dk (8.7.5/client-1.3) id QAA01856; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 16:09:41 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Problem with \usepackage[dvips]{hyperref} From: Erik Toubro Nielsen Date: 25 Sep 1998 16:09:41 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 142 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.39/Emacs 20.3 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk The dvips option to hyperref causes this error (with latex and pdflatex). ! Undefined control sequence. \hyper@anchor #1->{\pdfmark [\anchor@spot ]{pdfmark=/DEST,linktype=anchor,Vi... Input file ================================================== \documentclass{article} \usepackage[dvips]{hyperref} \begin{document} \tableofcontents \newpage \section{Using \texttt{xyz}} \label{prev} See \ref{next}. \newpage \section{Next page} Next page \label{next}. See page \ref{prev}. \end{document} ================================================== Log file: ================================================== This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.2) (format=latex 1998.9.18) 25 SEP 1998 15:58 **pdftest2 (pdftest2.tex LaTeX2e <1998/06/01> Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerman, n ohyphenation, loaded. (/local/share/opt/teTeX-0.9/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/article.cls Document Class: article 1998/05/05 v1.3y Standard LaTeX document class (/local/share/opt/teTeX-0.9/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/size10.clo File: size10.clo 1998/05/05 v1.3y Standard LaTeX file (size option) ) \c@part=\count79 \c@section=\count80 \c@subsection=\count81 \c@subsubsection=\count82 \c@paragraph=\count83 \c@subparagraph=\count84 \c@figure=\count85 \c@table=\count86 \abovecaptionskip=\skip41 \belowcaptionskip=\skip42 \bibindent=\dimen102 ) (/local/share/opt/teTeX-0.9/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/hyperref.sty Package: hyperref 1998/09/24 6.36 Hypertext links for LaTeX (/local/share/opt/teTeX-0.9/share/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/keyval.sty Package: keyval 1998/06/05 v1.11 key=value parser (DPC) \KV@toks@=\toks14 ) (/local/share/opt/teTeX-0.9/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/nameref.sty Package: nameref 1997/11/24 Cross-referencing by name of section ) \@linkdim=\dimen103 (/local/share/opt/teTeX-0.9/share/texmf/tex/latex/config/hyperref.cfg (/local/share/opt/teTeX-0.9/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/hypertex.def)) (/local/share/opt/teTeX-0.9/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/pdfmark.def) (/local/share/opt/teTeX-0.9/share/texmf/tex/latex/hyperref/hdvips.def) Package hyperref Info: Bookmarks ON on input line 339. Package hyperref Info: Hyper figures OFF on input line 356. Package hyperref Info: Link nesting OFF on input line 361. Package hyperref Info: Hyper index ON on input line 364. Package hyperref Info: Plain pages ON on input line 369. Package hyperref Info: Backreferencing OFF on input line 376. Package hyperref Info: Link coloring OFF on input line 386. Implicit mode ON; LaTeX internals redefined (/local/share/opt/teTeX-0.9/share/texmf/tex/latex/misc/url.sty Package: url 1996/10/19 ver 1.2 Verb mode for urls, email addresses, and file names ) \Fld@menulength=\count87 \Field@Width=\dimen104 \Fld@charsize=\dimen105 \Choice@toks=\toks15 \Field@toks=\toks16 Package hyperref Info: Hyper figures OFF on input line 822. Package hyperref Info: Link nesting OFF on input line 827. Package hyperref Info: Hyper index ON on input line 830. Package hyperref Info: backreferencing OFF on input line 837. Package hyperref Info: Link coloring OFF on input line 842. \c@Item=\count88 \c@Hfootnote=\count89 \OddToc=\count90 LaTeX Info: Redefining \ref on input line 1370. LaTeX Info: Redefining \pageref on input line 1371. ) (pdftest2.aux) \openout1 = `pdftest2.aux'. LaTeX Font Info: Checking defaults for OML/cmm/m/it on input line 5. LaTeX Font Info: ... okay on input line 5. LaTeX Font Info: Checking defaults for T1/cmr/m/n on input line 5. LaTeX Font Info: ... okay on input line 5. LaTeX Font Info: Checking defaults for OT1/cmr/m/n on input line 5. LaTeX Font Info: ... okay on input line 5. LaTeX Font Info: Checking defaults for OMS/cmsy/m/n on input line 5. LaTeX Font Info: ... okay on input line 5. LaTeX Font Info: Checking defaults for OMX/cmex/m/n on input line 5. LaTeX Font Info: ... okay on input line 5. LaTeX Font Info: Checking defaults for U/cmr/m/n on input line 5. LaTeX Font Info: ... okay on input line 5. (pdftest2.toc) \tf@toc=\write3 \openout3 = `pdftest2.toc'. ! Undefined control sequence. \hyper@anchor #1->{\pdfmark [\anchor@spot ]{pdfmark=/DEST,linktype=anchor,Vi... l.9 \newpage ? x Here is how much of TeX's memory you used: 969 strings out of 10906 13133 string characters out of 72045 55312 words of memory out of 263001 3947 multiletter control sequences out of 10000+0 4245 words of font info for 16 fonts, out of 200000 for 1000 15 hyphenation exceptions out of 1000 25i,4n,21p,162b,155s stack positions out of 300i,100n,500p,30000b,4000s No pages of output. ================================================== -- Erik Toubro Nielsen, From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Sep 25 09:04:34 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20355 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:04:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA07205 for pdftex-list; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:50:09 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA07202 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:50:06 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id PAA07517; hop 0; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:42:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:49:14 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 I); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13835.44164.462000.653228@SRAHTZ> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:45:24 +0100 ( `) To: erik@ifad.dk Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Problem with \usepackage[dvips]{hyperref} In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk PLEASE don't raise problems like this to the pdfTeX list! It is totally unrelated to pdfTeX. This is NOT a forum for discussing "TeX and PDF" but specifically for discussing "pdftex the program" Sebastian Rahtz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Sep 25 09:06:42 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20431 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:06:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA07228 for pdftex-list; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:59:48 -0400 Received: from monster.igd.fhg.de (monster.igd.fhg.de [153.97.128.43]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA07225 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:59:42 -0400 Received: from smurfsoft.dauenhauer.de (isdn33) by monster.igd.fhg.de (5.x/SMI-4.1) id AA06107; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 16:59:33 +0200 Received: from zgdv.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smurfsoft.dauenhauer.de (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA03389; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 16:59:30 +0200 Message-Id: <360BAFD2.5C4B3993@zgdv.de> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 16:59:30 +0200 From: Christian Kumpf Organization: ZGDV X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.35 i586) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Erik Toubro Nielsen , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Problem with \usepackage[dvips]{hyperref} References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Erik Toubro Nielsen wrote: > The dvips option to hyperref causes this error (with latex and > pdflatex). > > ! Undefined control sequence. > \hyper@anchor #1->{\pdfmark > [\anchor@spot ]{pdfmark=/DEST,linktype=anchor,Vi... > I had similiar problems when I latex-ed a file after I've had it pdf-latex-ed it before. There were a lot of pdf-related stuff in the .aux-files. After deleting all the .aux-files, everything works ok. Christian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Sep 25 15:34:59 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA03218 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:34:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA07875 for pdftex-list; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 17:22:56 -0400 Received: from by.genie.uottawa.ca (by.genie.uottawa.ca [137.122.20.226]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA07872 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 17:22:55 -0400 Received: from zeus.genie.uottawa.ca by by.genie.uottawa.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00222; Fri, 25 Sep 98 17:22:53 EDT Received: from yoho.uottawa.ca by zeus.genie.uottawa.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10354; Fri, 25 Sep 98 17:24:33 EDT Received: by yoho.uottawa.ca (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA18689; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 17:16:45 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 17:16:45 -0400 Message-Id: <199809252116.RAA18689@yoho.uottawa.ca> From: Lavoie Philippe To: pdftex Subject: eps files with text (update FAQ?) X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Including an eps file with text, is it still a problem ? If so it would be important to add this information in the FAQ. If it's suppose to work, in which version of pdftex ? Thanks Phil From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sat Sep 26 03:37:47 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA17349 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 03:37:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA08562 for pdftex-list; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 05:32:48 -0400 Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA08559 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 05:32:40 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.20.65]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA5175; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 11:31:53 +0200 Message-ID: <360CAE85.45C6094F@wxs.nl> Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 11:06:13 +0200 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lavoie Philippe CC: pdftex Subject: Re: eps files with text (update FAQ?) References: <199809252116.RAA18689@yoho.uottawa.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Lavoie Philippe wrote: > > Including an eps file with text, is it still a problem ? > If so it would be important to add this information in the FAQ. > > If it's suppose to work, in which version of pdftex ? When text is involved, use Distiller, because GS does not yet handles text well. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 28 03:12:51 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA07812 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 03:12:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA11380 for pdftex-list; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 05:01:10 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA11377 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 05:01:09 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id JAA03766; hop 0; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:53:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 10:00:25 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13839.20027.44000.543866@SRAHTZ> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:52:11 +0100 ( `) To: pdftex@tug.org cc: davidc@nag.co.uk, oberdiek@ruf.uni-freiburg.de Subject: Re: pdftex.def: unwanted space In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19980928010953.007a08a0@pop3.uni-freiburg.de> References: <3.0.6.32.19980928010953.007a08a0@pop3.uni-freiburg.de> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Heiko Oberdiek writes: > > in pdftex.def [1998/09/03 v0.02] there is an unwanted space in the > definition of \Gread@pdftex in line 131 after the last curly closing brace. > > It looks like you are right. I have edited, bumped to 1998/09/29 v0.02j and replaced at http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/pdftex.def sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 28 03:19:41 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA07923 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 03:19:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA11353 for pdftex-list; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 05:00:05 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA11350 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 05:00:04 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id JAA03696; hop 0; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:52:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:59:17 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13839.18438.530000.365174@SRAHTZ> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:25:42 +0100 ( `) To: lavoie@zeus.genie.uottawa.ca Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: eps files with text (update FAQ?) In-Reply-To: <199809252116.RAA18689@yoho.uottawa.ca> References: <199809252116.RAA18689@yoho.uottawa.ca> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Lavoie Philippe writes: > > Including an eps file with text, is it still a problem ? > If so it would be important to add this information in the FAQ. > > If it's suppose to work, in which version of pdftex ? pdftex does not, has not, suppported eps inclusion, and it seems unlikely that it ever will. you have to convert to PDF and include (version 12o onwards) Sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 28 03:21:49 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA07964 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 03:21:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA11340 for pdftex-list; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 04:59:50 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA11336 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 04:59:49 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id JAA03658; hop 0; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:52:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:58:45 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13839.18161.502000.764830@SRAHTZ> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:21:05 +0100 ( `) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Problem with \usepackage[dvips]{hyperref} In-Reply-To: <61A60B4601082600@mail.tyndale.com> References: <7E820B3601082600@mail.tyndale.com> <61A60B4601082600@mail.tyndale.com> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Harrison, Shawn writes: > Maybe you could suggest a more appropriate forum for discussing problems > specifically related to hyperref? > is there interest amongst members of this list for a new forum where people *can* discuss general issues of "TeX and PDF"? Sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 28 09:56:13 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15778 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:55:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA12754 for pdftex-list; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 11:48:57 -0400 Received: from monster.igd.fhg.de (monster.igd.fhg.de [153.97.128.43]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA12751 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 11:48:46 -0400 Received: from smurfsoft.dauenhauer.de (isdnprj118) by monster.igd.fhg.de (5.x/SMI-4.1) id AA29184; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:48:20 +0200 Received: from zgdv.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smurfsoft.dauenhauer.de (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA12047; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:48:02 +0200 Message-Id: <360FAFB1.857790DE@zgdv.de> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:48:02 +0200 From: Christian Kumpf Organization: ZGDV X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.35 i586) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Sebastian Rahtz Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Problem with \usepackage[dvips]{hyperref} References: <7E820B3601082600@mail.tyndale.com> <61A60B4601082600@mail.tyndale.com> <13839.18161.502000.764830@SRAHTZ> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > is there interest amongst members of this list for a new forum where > people *can* discuss general issues of "TeX and PDF"? Yes, I'm indeed interested in a more general discussion, but I don't think that theres somuch traffic that we need a split right now. Christian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 28 10:08:21 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16078 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 10:08:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA12843 for pdftex-list; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 12:01:59 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA12839 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 12:01:57 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id QAA22250; hop 0; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:54:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:01:13 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13839.45480.414000.17158@SRAHTZ> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:56:24 +0100 ( `) To: kumpf@igd.fhg.de Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Problem with \usepackage[dvips]{hyperref} In-Reply-To: <360FAFB1.857790DE@zgdv.de> References: <7E820B3601082600@mail.tyndale.com> <61A60B4601082600@mail.tyndale.com> <13839.18161.502000.764830@SRAHTZ> <360FAFB1.857790DE@zgdv.de> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Christian Kumpf writes: > > > is there interest amongst members of this list for a new forum where > > people *can* discuss general issues of "TeX and PDF"? > > Yes, I'm indeed interested in a more general discussion, but I don't think > that theres somuch traffic that we need a split right now. > I know pdftex is low impact, but i am very reluctant to change its nature as a fairly technical list about pdftex itself, to a general forum for TeX and PDF. everyone who has mailed me says they want a forum. i wonder why they dont use the hypertex list? does it still exist? sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 28 10:14:52 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16229 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 10:14:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA12853 for pdftex-list; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 12:02:14 -0400 Received: from mail.tyndale.com (mail.tyndale.com [208.203.193.2]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA12849 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 12:02:12 -0400 Received: from Connect2 Message Router by mail.tyndale.com via Connect2-SMTP 4.32; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 11:18:00 -0500 Message-ID: <32800F4601082600@mail.tyndale.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 11:17:52 -0400 From: "Harrison, Shawn" Organization: Tyndale House Publishers To: PDFTEX@tug.org Subject: Re: Problem with \usepackage[dvips]{hyperref} Importance: Normal X-SMF-Hop-Count: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.32 MHS/SMF to SMTP Gateway Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >is there interest amongst members of this list for a new forum where >people *can* discuss general issues of "TeX and PDF"? > >Sebastian Well, now that you mention it. . . . Yes. ============================ Shawn Harrison Associate Editor Tyndale House Publishers shawn_harrison@tyndale.com ============================ "The legal system is not fun, but it *is* an improvement over duels and feuds." --Harvey Harrison, attorney From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 28 10:27:45 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16581 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 10:27:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA12945 for pdftex-list; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 12:15:16 -0400 Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA12942 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 12:15:14 -0400 Received: from fell.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (MMTA v2.2) with ESMTP; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:15:09 +0100 Received: (from car2@localhost) by fell.open.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.6.12) id RAA18306; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:15:05 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Rowley MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:15:05 +0100 (BST) To: Sebastian Rahtz Cc: kumpf@igd.fhg.de, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Problem with \usepackage[dvips]{hyperref} In-Reply-To: <13839.45480.414000.17158@SRAHTZ> References: <7E820B3601082600@mail.tyndale.com> <61A60B4601082600@mail.tyndale.com> <13839.18161.502000.764830@SRAHTZ> <360FAFB1.857790DE@zgdv.de> <13839.45480.414000.17158@SRAHTZ> X-Mailer: VM 6.44 under Emacs 19.34.1 Message-ID: <13839.46466.444795.278217@fell.open.ac.uk> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sebastian wrote -- > > everyone who has mailed me says they want a forum. i wonder why they > dont use the hypertex list? does it still exist? Maybe because not everything related to TeX and PDF is hyper? > I know pdftex is low impact, but i am very reluctant to change its > nature as a fairly technical list about pdftex itself, to a general > forum for TeX and PDF. Does this indicate that a more general list would not be at all technical? chris From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 28 13:58:35 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22333 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 13:58:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA13981 for pdftex-list; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:54:20 -0400 Received: from next.aps.org (aps4.aps.bnl.gov [130.199.52.132]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA13978 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:54:18 -0400 Received: (from doyle@localhost) by next.aps.org (8.8.7/8.8.2) id PAA24522; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:52:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809281952.PAA24522@next.aps.org> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: <13839.45480.414000.17158@SRAHTZ> X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b6) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Mark Doyle Date: Mon, 28 Sep 98 15:51:59 -0400 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Problem with \usepackage[dvips]{hyperref} cc: apsmith@aps.org Reply-To: doyle@aps.org References: <7E820B3601082600@mail.tyndale.com> <61A60B4601082600@mail.tyndale.com> <13839.18161.502000.764830@SRAHTZ> <360FAFB1.857790DE@zgdv.de> <13839.45480.414000.17158@SRAHTZ> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, On Mon, 28 Sep 1998, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: >I know pdftex is low impact, but i am very reluctant to change its nature as >a fairly technical list about pdftex itself, to a general forum for TeX and >PDF. > everyone who has mailed me says they want a forum. i wonder why they > dont use the hypertex list? does it still exist? Arthur Smith moved the hypertex lists to the APS a while ago - they are still up and running, although they get almost no usage. I don't think it is set up to be a high-volume list with good archiving though and I doubt Arthur wants to maintain such a list at this time -- I cc'ed him so that he can further clarify the status of the lists. I tend to agree with Chris Rowley's sentiment that many PDF/TeX issues aren't hypertex issues (though certainly hyperref questions/problems could have a home there). Mark From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Sep 28 20:04:42 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA01056 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 20:04:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA14306 for pdftex-list; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 21:52:12 -0400 Received: from ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (cottrell@ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu [152.17.150.2]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA14303 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 21:52:10 -0400 Received: from localhost (cottrell@localhost) by ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA18039 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 21:49:40 -0400 Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 21:49:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Allin Cottrell To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: off-topic: www.elecbook.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I hope Sebastian (and the rest of you) will forgive me. This question is avowedly off-topic, a request for a favour, on sufferance (grovel), posed on account of the cross-platform pdf expertise evinced on the list. I'm interested in the pdf reprints of various classic authors offered by www.elecbook.com. I visited their website today and tried looking at the sample chapters offered for both Marx and Engels and Jane Austen. Linux Netscape (4.06) did not recognize the files as pdf. I forced a download and tried (Linux) Acroread, ghostview and xpdf on the files. All these worthies said the files were damaged and unreadable. I'm wondering: Is it "just me"? Or has elecbook found a way of producing "Windows only" pdf (my paranoia coming out)? Or are they just totally messed up? -- Allin Cottrell Department of Economics Wake Forest University, NC From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Sep 29 08:36:46 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15745 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 08:36:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA15088 for pdftex-list; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:19:54 -0400 Received: from ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr (ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.232.33]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA15085 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:19:52 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29702 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:19:50 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id QAA07381; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:21:19 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:21:19 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199809291421.QAA07381@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: PDFTeX Mailing List Subject: pdftex, macs, fonts... X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, reportedly, when pdftex uses embedded subsetted fonts without supplied .enc file, i.e. fonts declared with such a line in pdftex.map cmr10 CMR10 ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:02:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA15322 for pdftex-list; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 11:49:25 -0400 Received: from math.ams.org (math.ams.org [130.44.210.14]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA15319 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 11:49:24 -0400 Received: from sun06.ams.org by math.ams.org via smtpd (for tug.org [158.121.106.10]) with SMTP; 29 Sep 1998 15:49:23 UT Received: from sun06.ams.org by sun06.ams.org (PMDF V5.1-10 #27147) with SMTP id <0F0100G4YYMBBG@sun06.ams.org> for pdftex@tug.org; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 11:49:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 11:49:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky Subject: Re: pdftex, macs, fonts... In-reply-to: <199809291421.QAA07381@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> To: pdfTeX Mailing List Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi Thierry, > > the PDF file produced is correctly viewed with acrobat reader, even on > a mac, _but_ not printable. > > Does it have to do with the > /Encoding 256 array > 0 1 255 {1 index exch /.notdef put} for > > bug already discussed here and, if so, is this fixed in current > versions? > The answer to the first question: Yes -- if you export the PDF file to PS and look at the PS file, the above lines are missing. If you manually add them, you can print the file. An answer to the second question: As far as I know, Pavel has not incorporated the changes I mailed to the list. Regards, Tom From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Sep 29 12:47:39 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22224 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 12:47:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA15631 for pdftex-list; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:40:43 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA15628 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:40:39 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@dialup3.inet.cz [194.196.193.3]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id UAA08698; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:35:27 +0100 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA19662; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 19:39:01 +0200 To: Thierry Bouche CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex, macs, fonts... References: <199809291421.QAA07381@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.123 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicited e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicited e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 29 Sep 1998 19:38:49 +0200 In-Reply-To: Thierry Bouche's message of Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:21:19 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: Lines: 13 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: Thierry Bouche Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:21:19 +0200 (MET DST) Hi, > bug already discussed here and, if so, is this fixed in current > versions? it is not, but will be soon. As I said I would like to see more than one success report as I do not have Mac on my desktop. -- Pavel Janik ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Sep 30 02:34:19 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA10454 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 02:34:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA16205 for pdftex-list; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 04:26:24 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA16202 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 04:26:21 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id JAA05479; hop 0; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:19:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:25:34 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13841.59652.365000.808105@SRAHTZ> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:17:08 +0100 ( `) To: C.A.Rowley@open.ac.uk Cc: kumpf@igd.fhg.de, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Problem with \usepackage[dvips]{hyperref} In-Reply-To: <13839.46466.444795.278217@fell.open.ac.uk> References: <7E820B3601082600@mail.tyndale.com> <61A60B4601082600@mail.tyndale.com> <13839.18161.502000.764830@SRAHTZ> <360FAFB1.857790DE@zgdv.de> <13839.45480.414000.17158@SRAHTZ> <13839.46466.444795.278217@fell.open.ac.uk> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Chris Rowley writes: > > everyone who has mailed me says they want a forum. i wonder why they > > dont use the hypertex list? does it still exist? > > Maybe because not everything related to TeX and PDF is hyper? > true. but it does not invalidate the question > > I know pdftex is low impact, but i am very reluctant to change its > > nature as a fairly technical list about pdftex itself, to a general > > forum for TeX and PDF. > > Does this indicate that a more general list would not be at all technical? > sorry, i should have said {technical list about pdftex} sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Sep 30 03:53:38 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA11817 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 03:53:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA16447 for pdftex-list; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 05:44:30 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA16444 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 05:44:28 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id KAA08939; hop 0; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:37:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:43:27 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13841.63948.313000.432492@SRAHTZ> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:28:44 +0100 ( `) To: doyle@aps.org Cc: pdftex@tug.org, apsmith@aps.org Subject: Re: Problem with \usepackage[dvips]{hyperref} In-Reply-To: <199809281952.PAA24522@next.aps.org> References: <7E820B3601082600@mail.tyndale.com> <61A60B4601082600@mail.tyndale.com> <13839.18161.502000.764830@SRAHTZ> <360FAFB1.857790DE@zgdv.de> <13839.45480.414000.17158@SRAHTZ> <199809281952.PAA24522@next.aps.org> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Mark Doyle writes: > Arthur Smith moved the hypertex lists to the APS a while ago - they are > still up and running, although they get almost no usage. I don't think it is > set up to be a high-volume list with good archiving though and I doubt > Arthur wants to maintain such a list at this time -- I cc'ed him so that he > can further clarify the status of the lists. > I guess the moral is that we don't need a new list, because we already *have* a "HyperTeX" list. I suggest that people who want to discuss general topics outside pdftex subscribe to that list. I'm on it, so I'll happily answer hyperref questions there. If Arthur has problems with the list at APS, I'll happily set up a replacement list at tug.org (and moderate if required). Sebastian PS Arthur, you cannot post to this list unless you join it. I made it "susbcriber post only" to avoid the silly sex and money adverts. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Sep 30 05:53:29 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA13865 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 05:53:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA16721 for pdftex-list; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 07:39:55 -0400 Received: from rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu (rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu [164.107.171.29]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA16718 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 07:39:54 -0400 Received: from gw2 (gw2.eng.ohio-state.edu [164.107.169.221]) by rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id HAA21008; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 07:39:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809301139.HAA21008@rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu> X-Sender: hubert@rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 07:33:45 -0400 To: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) From: Chris Hubert Subject: Re: pdftex, macs, fonts... Cc: pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: References: <199809291421.QAA07381@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >Hi, > > > bug already discussed here and, if so, is this fixed in current > > versions? > >it is not, but will be soon. As I said I would like to see more than >one success report as I do not have Mac on my desktop. >-- >Pavel Janik ml. >Pavel.Janik@inet.cz > Actually, I have had troubles not only from the Mac, but also from some SGI workstations. However, when I adopted Tom's fix (the first one he ever posted, which I am including below), on the latest installation of teTeX and compiled on an Irix 5.3 machine, I have been able to print from any machine I have yet tried. (Currently Macs, SGI workstations, and NT Pentium machines). RCS file: RCS/writet1.c,v retrieving revision 1.1 retrieving revision 1.2 diff -c -r1.1 -r1.2 *** 1.1 1998/06/16 01:14:47 - --- 1.2 1998/06/16 01:16:26 *************** *** 462,467 **** - --- 462,482 ---- do { T1_CHECK_EOF(); t1_getline(); + + /* + If the next line ends in "for", it probably is of + of the form: + + 0 1 255 {1 index exch /.notdef put} for + + This is PS code to populate the encoding array with + /.notdef; if not there, Macintosh print drivers + choke when printing out the PDF file. + */ + + if (strstr(t1_line, "for")) { + t1_putline(); + } if (sscanf(t1_line, "dup %u%s put", &i, buf) == 2 && *buf == '/' && pdfischarused(tex_font, i)) { builtin_glyph_names[i] = xstrdup(buf + 1); /* skip the slash */ ------- End of forwarded message ------- Chris Hubert Department of Mechanical Engineering The Ohio State University 206 West 18th Avenue Columbus, OH 43210-1107 (614) 292-2356 (Office) (614) 292-3163 (Fax) hubert@rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu Common sense.... .... is not so common Voltaire From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Sep 30 10:29:27 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA19909 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:29:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA17634 for pdftex-list; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:20:13 -0400 Received: from mailman.campbellsci.com (mailman.campbellsci.com [207.201.118.3]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA17631 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:20:11 -0400 Received: from carl_zmola ([207.201.118.7]) by mailman.campbellsci.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with SMTP id AAA169 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:19:14 -0600 From: "Carl Zmola" To: pdftex@tug.org Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:15:41 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Problem with \usepackage[dvips]{hyperref} Reply-to: zmola@campbellsci.com In-reply-to: <13841.59652.365000.808105@SRAHTZ> References: <13839.46466.444795.278217@fell.open.ac.uk> Message-ID: <19980930161914661.AAA169@carl_zmola> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk It is funny. This debate got started when a question was asked about why \usepackage[dvips]{hyperref} didn't work. The problem was an incompatiablility between latex and pdftex intermediate files. Something reasonable to discuss on this list. It just didn't appear so at the beginning. I just don't see the questions on this list being off topic very often. It seems that the list is working well. Why don't we just live with it for a while. Carl Carl zmola@campbellsci.com From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Sep 30 12:26:44 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23250 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:26:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA18033 for pdftex-list; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 14:15:31 -0400 Received: from hermes.ifad.dk (hermes.ifad.dk [130.225.136.3]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA18030 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 14:15:29 -0400 Received: from pc22.ifad.dk (erik@pc22.ifad.dk [130.225.136.122]) by hermes.ifad.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA28350 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:15:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by pc22.ifad.dk (8.7.5/client-1.3) id UAA12754; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:15:28 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Included pdf (from epstopdf) is distorted in output From: Erik Toubro Nielsen Date: 30 Sep 1998 20:15:27 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 20 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.39/Emacs 20.3 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk The 5 files in http://www.ifad.dk/~erik/pdf/pdftest.tar: xterm.png : created by ImageMagick 4.4.1 command 'import -frame xterm.png' xterm.eps : created with ImageMagick command 'convert xterm.png xterm.eps' xterm.pdf : created with 'epstopdf xterm.eps' (gs version 5.50) pdftest.tex : contains includegraphics{xterm.pdf} and includegraphics{xterm.png} pdftest.log : log file from pdflatex When viewing xterm.pdf in acroread it is ok. When it is included into pdftest.tex the resulting pdftest.pdf file is displayed in acroread as a dark distorted version of the png file and is much larger than one would expect from the input files (1179789 bytes versus 3810 for xterm.pdf and 1353 for xterm.png). Versions: teTex0.9-980916-2 updated with pdfTeX, version 3.14159-0.12o-8. -- Erik Toubro Nielsen, From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Oct 1 04:24:38 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14308 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 04:24:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA19346 for pdftex-list; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:11:21 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA19343 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:11:18 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id LAA13510; hop 0; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:04:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:10:22 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz Message-ID: <13843.20013.671000.873567@SRAHTZ> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:41:01 +0100 ( `) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Description: forwarded message To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: forwarded message from owner-pdftex@tug.org Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" sebastian > When viewing xterm.pdf in acroread it is ok. When it is included into > pdftest.tex the resulting pdftest.pdf file is displayed in acroread as > a dark distorted version of the png file and is much larger than one > would expect from the input files (1179789 bytes versus 3810 for > xterm.pdf and 1353 for xterm.png). It's senseless to include PDF created from PNG. Use PNG and/or JPG to include bitmaps and PDF to include vector graphics. Jiri. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Oct 1 06:48:59 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA16928 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:48:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA19608 for pdftex-list; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:35:06 -0400 Received: from ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr (ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.232.33]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA19605 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:35:04 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA23096; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:34:42 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id OAA08373; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:36:27 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:36:27 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199810011236.OAA08373@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: Chris Hubert Cc: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.), pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex, macs, fonts... In-Reply-To: <199809301139.HAA21008@rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu> References: <199809291421.QAA07381@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <199809301139.HAA21008@rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk i applied the patch here (solaris on a sparc) and the resulting PDF file printed successfully on the problematic mac. the only problem i see is that it could be fooled by virtual glyph names ending in 'for' but i must confess that there is no such glyph neither in Adobe glyph names list (http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/devrelations/typeforum/glyphlist.txt) nor in y&y fonts... Thierry Bouche, Grenoble. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Oct 1 07:28:22 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17769 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:28:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA19691 for pdftex-list; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:18:09 -0400 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA19688 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:18:08 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.21.170]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA3A70; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 15:17:53 +0200 Message-ID: <36138FB2.6ADEA12E@wxs.nl> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 15:20:34 +0100 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sebastian Rahtz CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: forwarded message from owner-pdftex@tug.org References: <13843.20013.671000.873567@SRAHTZ> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sebastian Rahtz wrote/forwarded: < something unquotable probably in MS html format > Converting png to pdf makes sense when one wants to be sure of dimensions! Some png files simply have no resolution info, which makes it dangerous to include them at the natural size. Using the pdf alternative at least tells us/tex what to expect (mediabox -> bp). Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Oct 1 11:21:17 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA23790 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:21:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA20446 for pdftex-list; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:08:24 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA20443 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:08:19 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@dialup8.inet.cz [194.196.193.8]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA31286; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 19:03:07 +0100 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA01186; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:52:10 +0200 To: Thierry Bouche CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex, macs, fonts... References: <199809291421.QAA07381@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <199809301139.HAA21008@rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu> <199810011236.OAA08373@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.123 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicited e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicited e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 01 Oct 1998 18:52:06 +0200 In-Reply-To: Thierry Bouche's message of Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:36:27 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: Lines: 15 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: Thierry Bouche Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:36:27 +0200 (MET DST) Hi, > the only problem i see is that it could be fooled by virtual glyph > names ending in 'for' but i must confess that there is no such glyph well, but it's not enough - this patch is not correct - we should be more precious. I admit that this is pdfTeX bug, but I do not want to put in something like "if the last word on the line is for, do something". Sorry. I will discuse this with Han The Thanh early. -- Pavel Janík ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Oct 1 11:46:59 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24510 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:46:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA20553 for pdftex-list; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:39:49 -0400 Received: from math.ams.org (math.ams.org [130.44.210.14]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA20550 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:39:48 -0400 Received: from sun06.ams.org by math.ams.org via smtpd (for tug.org [158.121.106.10]) with SMTP; 1 Oct 1998 17:39:48 UT Received: from sun06.ams.org by sun06.ams.org (PMDF V5.1-10 #27147) with SMTP id <0F05009KAT27C7@sun06.ams.org> for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:39:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 13:39:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Kacvinsky Subject: Han the Thanh To: pdfTeX Mailing List Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Has anyone heard from Thanh? I thought he would be back from the U.S. by now. Thanks, Tom From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Oct 1 12:55:36 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26376 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:55:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA20857 for pdftex-list; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:49:12 -0400 Received: from nx1.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE (nx1.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.131.3]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA20854 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:49:09 -0400 Received: from nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE by nx1.hrz.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (PP); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 20:48:54 +0200 Received: from sx2.hrz.uni-dortmund.de by nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE (PP) with ESMTP; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 20:48:42 +0200 Received: from rigel.univie.ac.at (stud-184.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.227.184]) by sx2.hrz.uni-dortmund.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA03192 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 20:48:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from sx0005@localhost) by rigel.univie.ac.at (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA03679; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:50:31 GMT Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:50:31 GMT Message-Id: <199810010650.GAA03679@rigel.univie.ac.at> X-Authentication-Warning: rigel.univie.ac.at: sx0005 set sender to sx0005@sx2.hrz.uni-dortmund.de using -f From: Werner LEMBERG To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Problem with Apple default glyph names Reply-to: Werner LEMBERG Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Here is mail sent to the Unicode list which shows an interesting URL, pointing to the `Inside Macintosh' books online -- this should lead to an `official' default Apple PS glyph name table. Werner ------- Start of forwarded message ------- Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Uml-Sequence: 6025 (1998-09-30 20:26:42 GMT) From: David Goldsmith Reply-To: unicode@unicode.org To: Unicode List Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:26:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Strange UTF-8 in Java Rick McGowan (rmcgowan@apple.com) wrote: >> (more available than your own company's API documentation, I believe), >> since it is on the web. > >Ahem. Did you check the web? Last time I looked, there was some rather >up-to-date documentation at: > > http://gemma.apple.com/techpubs/rhapsody/rhapsody.html Inside Macintosh is online, too, and has been for years: http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/mac/mac.html David Goldsmith International and Text Department Architect Apple Computer, Inc. goldsmith@apple.com ------- End of forwarded message ------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Oct 1 12:56:31 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26394 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:56:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA20848 for pdftex-list; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:47:56 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA20845 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:47:54 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (214@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA19242; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 20:47:53 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from sojka@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA14090; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 20:47:51 +0200 (MET DST) From: Petr Sojka Message-Id: <199810011847.UAA14090@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: Han the Thanh In-Reply-To: from Tom Kacvinsky at "Oct 1, 98 01:39:43 pm" To: tjk@ams.org (Tom Kacvinsky) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 20:47:50 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org (pdfTeX List) Organization: Masaryk University, Brno, The Czech Republic, www.fi.muni.cz Postal-Address: Faculty of Informatics, Botanicka 68a, 60200 Brno Telephone: +420-5-41512352 (my room), +420-5-41512329 (secretary), Fax: +420-5-41212568, 41213219 PGP: http://pks.pgp.cz:11371/pks/lookup?op=index&search=Petr+Sojka X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk "Tom Kacvinsky wrote:" : Has anyone heard from Thanh? I thought he would be back from : the U.S. by now. He has just returned (a day ago actually). --ps From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Oct 2 01:27:20 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA13776 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 01:27:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA21828 for pdftex-list; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 03:21:56 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA21825 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 03:21:53 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08471 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:21:37 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA12002 for pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:21:35 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <199810020721.JAA12002@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Hello To: pdftex@tug.org (PDFTEX) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:21:35 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello everybody, I arrived Brno two days ago. I had a great time in US :-). Now I'm getting orientation in changes happenning during the period I was away, it will take me a while. In the very first moment, I want to thank all of you for the great work on development pdftex, especially Pavel Janik. I'm so impressive by the amount of work Pavel has done. Also thanks to Jody for maintaning the pdftex FAQ. Regards, Thanh From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Oct 2 03:36:49 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA16285 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 03:36:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA22203 for pdftex-list; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 05:26:09 -0400 Received: from hermes.ifad.dk (hermes.ifad.dk [130.225.136.3]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA22200 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 05:26:07 -0400 Received: from pc22.ifad.dk (erik@pc22.ifad.dk [130.225.136.122]) by hermes.ifad.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA26668 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:26:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by pc22.ifad.dk (8.7.5/client-1.3) id LAA23217; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:26:06 +0200 To: pdftex@@tug.org Subject: Re: forwarded message from owner-pdftex@tug.org References: <13843.20013.671000.873567@SRAHTZ> From: Erik Toubro Nielsen Date: 02 Oct 1998 11:26:06 +0200 In-Reply-To: Sebastian Rahtz's message of "Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:41:01 +0100 ( `)" Message-ID: Lines: 27 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.39/Emacs 20.3 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sebastian Rahtz writes: > > When viewing xterm.pdf in acroread it is ok. When it is included into > > pdftest.tex the resulting pdftest.pdf file is displayed in acroread as > > a dark distorted version of the png file and is much larger than one > > would expect from the input files (1179789 bytes versus 3810 for > > xterm.pdf and 1353 for xterm.png). > > It's senseless to include PDF created from PNG. Use PNG and/or JPG > to include bitmaps and PDF to include vector graphics. > > Jiri. > Jiri, Sure it is senseless. But I wrote the note (*) to indicate a possible bug in pdftex. Can anyone reproduce the result I reported? It could be a bug in gs-5.50, used by epstopdf, but it seems strange to me that the included pdf file of size 3810 bytes results in a pdf file of size ~1Mb. Should this be possible? (*) Se subject "Included pdf (from epstopdf) is distorted in output", msgid . -- Erik Toubro Nielsen, From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Oct 2 07:21:09 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20181 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 07:21:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA22602 for pdftex-list; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:06:16 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA22599 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:06:04 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09875; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 15:05:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA14168; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 15:05:55 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <199810021305.PAA14168@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: forwarded message from owner-pdftex@tug.org In-Reply-To: from Erik Toubro Nielsen at "Oct 2, 98 11:26:06 am" To: erik@ifad.dk (Erik Toubro Nielsen) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 15:05:55 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > > > When viewing xterm.pdf in acroread it is ok. When it is included into > > > pdftest.tex the resulting pdftest.pdf file is displayed in acroread as > > > a dark distorted version of the png file and is much larger than one > > > would expect from the input files (1179789 bytes versus 3810 for > > > xterm.pdf and 1353 for xterm.png). pdftest.pdf is so large because no compression is used. Turning on compression has also produced correct output. This is a problem of xpdf (try to view xterm.pdf by xpdf). Also a minor bug of pdftex has been found. Thanks for the report, I will contact xpdf' author soon. Thanh From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Oct 2 08:14:55 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA21281 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 08:14:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA22854 for pdftex-list; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:09:09 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA22851 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:09:07 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id PAA20693; hop 0; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 15:01:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 15:08:03 +0100 Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 14:46:50 +0100 Message-ID: <9626-Fri02Oct1998144650+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q) From: Sebastian Rahtz To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Can I humbly suggest that when Thanh is settled back in and assimilated Pavel's work, a pdftex 0.13 release would be no bad thing? Just to make it clear to everyone where we are. sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sat Oct 3 17:19:35 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02408 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 17:19:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA23869 for pdftex-list; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 19:09:53 -0400 Received: from isy.liu.se (root@isy.liu.se [130.236.48.10]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA23866 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 19:09:52 -0400 Received: from macken.isy.liu.se (macken.isy.liu.se [130.236.50.200]) by isy.liu.se (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA26824 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 01:09:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from isy.liu.se by macken.isy.liu.se (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id BAA24519; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 01:09:40 +0200 Message-ID: <3616BBF1.55A94916@isy.liu.se> Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1998 01:06:09 +0100 From: Erik Frisk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex Subject: Problems with inclusion of pdf-images Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I have problems including pdf graphics in my documents. I use the pdftex version included in the last MikTeX distribution, 0.12l My sample document looks like this: \documentclass{article} \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} \begin{document} \DeclareGraphicsExtensions{.jpg,.pdf,.mps,.png} \includegraphics{myplot.pdf} \end{document} and I get the following message from pdflatex This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-0.12l (MiKTeX 1.11) (preloaded format=latex 98.9.12) 4 OCT 1998 00:55 [snipped parts of the log-file] loading : Context Support Macros / PDF \nofMPsegments=\count93 \nofMParguments=\count94 ) ! LaTeX Error: Cannot determine size of graphic in myplot.pdf (no BoundingBox). The file myplot.pdf is based on myplot.eps who is transformed into a pdf with the eps2pdf perl-script found via the TUG homepage. Now, I am 100% certain it is an eps with a bounding box. I have even explictly marked the bounding box with the pstoeps option in GhostView. So, what am I doing wrong? Another question, how do one go about to install a newer pdftex-version into the MikTeX distribution(rather than the Web2C distribution)? Is it possible for a "normal" (is anybody using TeX normal?) user or do you have to be a super wiz/guru? /Erik -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Erik Frisk email: frisk@isy.liu.se Dept. of Electrical Engineering tel: +46 13 285714 Vehicular Systems fax: +46 13 282035 Linköping University S-581 83 Linköping SWEDEN www.vehicular.isy.liu.se/~frisk --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sat Oct 3 18:01:25 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA03146 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 18:01:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA24020 for pdftex-list; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 19:56:39 -0400 Received: from kraken.apl.washington.edu (kraken97.apl.washington.edu [128.95.97.25]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA24017 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 19:56:38 -0400 Received: from galiano (galiano.apl.washington.edu [128.95.97.152]) by kraken.apl.washington.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA04847; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 16:56:33 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jody Klymak" To: "Erik Frisk" , "pdftex" Subject: RE: Problems with inclusion of pdf-images Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 17:00:01 -0700 Message-ID: <000801bdef29$eec88c20$98615f80@galiano.apl.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: <3616BBF1.55A94916@isy.liu.se> X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Erik, First, check that myplot.pdf is okay by looking at it in Acrobat (or your favourite PDF viewer). Second, make sure you have the newest pdftex.def, avaialble at http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex somewhere in your TeX tree. Third, a question for you. How on earth did you get epstopdf to work on a win32 machine? I found I had to hack the crap out of it. Cheers, Jody *************************************************************** Jody Klymak APL/School of Oceanography, University of Washington jklymak@apl.washington.edu (206)-685-9080 http://www.ocean.washington.edu/people/grads/jklymak/Klymak.html > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdftex@tug.org [mailto:owner-pdftex@tug.org]On Behalf Of > Erik Frisk > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 1998 5:06 PM > To: pdftex > Subject: Problems with inclusion of pdf-images > > > I have problems including pdf graphics in my documents. > I use the pdftex version included in the last MikTeX distribution, > 0.12l > > My sample document looks like this: > \documentclass{article} > \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} > > \begin{document} > \DeclareGraphicsExtensions{.jpg,.pdf,.mps,.png} > \includegraphics{myplot.pdf} > \end{document} > > and I get the following message from pdflatex > > This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-0.12l (MiKTeX 1.11) (preloaded > format=latex 98.9.12) 4 OCT 1998 00:55 > [snipped parts of the log-file] > loading : Context Support Macros / PDF > \nofMPsegments=\count93 > \nofMParguments=\count94 > ) > > ! LaTeX Error: Cannot determine size of graphic in myplot.pdf (no > BoundingBox). > > The file myplot.pdf is based on myplot.eps who is transformed into a > pdf with the eps2pdf perl-script found via the TUG homepage. > > Now, I am 100% certain it is an eps with a bounding box. I have even > explictly marked the bounding box with the pstoeps option in > GhostView. So, what am I doing wrong? > > Another question, how do one go about to install a newer > pdftex-version into the MikTeX distribution(rather than the Web2C > distribution)? Is it possible for a "normal" (is anybody using TeX > normal?) user or do you have to be a super wiz/guru? > > /Erik > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Erik Frisk email: frisk@isy.liu.se > Dept. of Electrical Engineering tel: +46 13 285714 > Vehicular Systems fax: +46 13 282035 > Linköping University > S-581 83 Linköping > SWEDEN www.vehicular.isy.liu.se/~frisk > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sat Oct 3 18:23:48 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA03613 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 18:23:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA24126 for pdftex-list; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 20:17:16 -0400 Received: from kraken.apl.washington.edu (kraken96.apl.washington.edu [128.95.96.25]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA24123 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 20:17:14 -0400 Received: from galiano (galiano.apl.washington.edu [128.95.97.152]) by kraken.apl.washington.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA06408 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 17:16:59 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jody Klymak" To: "pdftex" Subject: e2pall.pl Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 17:20:27 -0700 Message-ID: <000901bdef2c$c97a8010$98615f80@galiano.apl.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: <3616BBF1.55A94916@isy.liu.se> X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, Sort of taught myself Perl this weekend. I'm sure someone has already done this, but below is a script that calls epstopdf (http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex) on all graphics inclusions in a latex file, and recursively searches \input{} specified files as well. It only updates if there is no pdf version of the eps file, or if the eps file is newer than the pdf file. There are a few caveats mentioned in the comments at the start, but I'm sure some people will find this usefull. Of course, any comments on the code are welcome. My experience with Perl is zilch. (cool language especially for this kind of thing though!) Cheers, Jody *************************************************************** Jody Klymak APL/School of Oceanography, University of Washington jklymak@apl.washington.edu (206)-685-9080 http://www.ocean.washington.edu/people/grads/jklymak/Klymak.html # CUT HERE.... # Usage: e2pall.pl latexfile # recursively finds all your eps files. Looks down \input{fname}. # CAVEATS: # 1) cannot handle \input{fname} or \includegraphics{fname} split over # more than one line. # 2) Must be run from same directory as the Latex file. # 3) Does not look down $TEXINPUTS or anything fancy like that... # 4) Does not handle \include (though I guess its trivial) # 5) Assumes *all* your graphics inclusions are eps. But don't # fret, because if they are not epstopdf dies anyhow.... # EDIT these two lines for your system.... $Eps2PdfCom = "perl epstopdf.pl"; # modify as you must for your $ThisFunCom = "perl e2pall.pl"; # system.... $fname=$ARGV[0]; # check for a *.tex at the end... if ($fname !~ /.tex$/){ $fname = "$fname.tex"; } open(TEXFILE,$fname) or die "Cannot open file $fname"; # print "Finding *.eps files in $fname\n"; while($line=){ # truncate $line after % sign.... $line=~s/%.*//; # check for /input.... if ($line=~/input{(.*)}/){ print `$ThisFunCom $1`; } if ($line=~/includegraphics.*{(.*)}/){ # check that the eps version is newer than the pdf version.... if ((-M "$1.pdf") >= (-M "$1.eps")){ print "Constructing $1.pdf from $1.eps\n"; print `$Eps2PdfCom $1.eps`; } elsif ((-M "$1.pdf")==""){ print "Constructing \t $1.pdf from $1.eps\n"; print `$Eps2PdfCom $1.eps`; } else{ print "$1.pdf \t is up to date with $1.eps\n"; } }; } close(TEXFILE); # END.... From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sat Oct 3 20:23:37 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA05811 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 20:23:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA24350 for pdftex-list; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 22:17:53 -0400 Received: from web1.ecol.net (web1.ecol.net [12.2.97.11]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA24347 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 22:17:51 -0400 Received: from web1.ecol.net [209.83.16.142] by web1.ecol.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.02) id A2EF33201BE; Sat, 03 Oct 1998 20:44:15 CSTCDT Message-ID: <3616DA5F.81D09067@web1.ecol.net> Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 21:15:59 -0500 From: Michael Penkava Reply-To: penkavmr@uwec.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Minus signs don't print Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I am a professor in a math department, and I am trying to get a reasonable manner of posting homework and papers to my web page. Since students do not typically have access to ghostview, I thought that using pdf files would be a good way to go. But recently, one of my colleagues noticed that the version 3.0 of the Adobe Acrobat reader, while showing minus signs on the screen, does not print them to the printer. If the file is printed using Ghostview, this problem does not occur. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sun Oct 4 05:44:16 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA15748 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 05:44:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA24902 for pdftex-list; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 07:34:03 -0400 Received: from lascas.math.ist.utl.pt (lascas.math.ist.utl.pt [193.136.196.3]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA24899 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 07:34:02 -0400 Received: from localhost (jmatos@localhost) by lascas.math.ist.utl.pt (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id MAA04686 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 12:33:55 +0100 (WET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: lascas.math.ist.utl.pt: jmatos owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 12:33:55 +0100 (WET DST) From: Joao Palhoto Matos To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: pdf file inclusion does not work under Digital Unix Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi: Before someone gives me standard answers let me state that: -- the inclusion of the same files works under solaris or linux; -- the same texmf tree is shared between the three OS's mentioned; -- Digital Unix 3.2D, 4.0b, 4.0d all share the same trouble; -- gcc 2.8.1 was used on all operating systems. This still happens with pdftex from the September 28 teTeX pretest release. I somehow suspect that no one developing the pdftex code has direct access to Digital Unix. I lack the knowledge (or time to get it) to track this down but will be glad to provide example files or run any kind of tests if anyone is interested. I had sent a more detailed notice to the teTeX list a while ago but I just noticed I did not CC'ed to this list. Best, Joăo Palhoto Matos Departamento de Matemática Instituto Superior Técnico Lisboa From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sun Oct 4 14:43:09 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA01961 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 14:42:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA25178 for pdftex-list; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 12:12:33 -0400 Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite.sentex.ca [199.212.134.1]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA25175 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 12:12:31 -0400 Received: from pppuser.uoguelph.ca (p34a.neon.sentex.ca [207.245.212.227]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA04277 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 12:12:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199810041612.MAA04277@granite.sentex.net> X-Sender: mathtrek@mathtrek.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1998 12:11:59 -0400 To: pdftex@tug.org From: "W. R. Smith" Subject: Re: Minus signs don't print In-Reply-To: <3616DA5F.81D09067@web1.ecol.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 09:15 PM 10/3/98 -0500, Michael Penkava wrote: >I am a professor in a math department, and I am >trying to get a reasonable manner of posting homework >and papers to my web page. Since students do not >typically have access to ghostview, I thought that >using pdf files would be a good way to go. But recently, >one of my colleagues noticed that the version 3.0 of >the Adobe Acrobat reader, while showing minus signs on the >screen, does not print them to the printer. If the file is >printed using Ghostview, this problem does not occur. I too, have encountered this problem, but only with certain printers - the HP Laserjet series in particular. We fixed it in one case by configuring the printer settings (via the Control Panel) to "print Truetype fonts as graphics". Give this a try and let me know what happens. I haven't tried it with Ghostview - maybe GV automatically prints in graphics mode? -- W. R. Smith, PhD, P. Eng., Senior Scientist, Mathtrek Systems -- 3-304 Stone Road West, Suite 165, Guelph, Ontario CANADA N1G 4W4 EMail: support@mathtrek.com Tel:519-763-1356,FAX:519-763-4525 --------------------- http://www.mathtrek.com --------------------- -Mathtrek Systems - Home of EQS4WIN Chemical Equilibrium Software - From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sun Oct 4 14:55:51 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA06238 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 14:55:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA25257 for pdftex-list; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 12:43:12 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA25254 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 12:43:09 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA17081; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 18:43:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA18676; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 18:43:06 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <199810041643.SAA18676@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: Problems with inclusion of pdf-images In-Reply-To: <3616BBF1.55A94916@isy.liu.se> from Erik Frisk at "Oct 4, 98 01:06:09 am" To: frisk@isy.liu.se (Erik Frisk) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 18:43:06 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org (PDFTEX) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > I have problems including pdf graphics in my documents. > I use the pdftex version included in the last MikTeX distribution, > 0.12l > > My sample document looks like this: > \documentclass{article} > \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} > > \begin{document} > \DeclareGraphicsExtensions{.jpg,.pdf,.mps,.png} > \includegraphics{myplot.pdf} > \end{document} > > and I get the following message from pdflatex > > This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-0.12l (MiKTeX 1.11) (preloaded > format=latex 98.9.12) 4 OCT 1998 00:55 > [snipped parts of the log-file] > loading : Context Support Macros / PDF > \nofMPsegments=\count93 > \nofMParguments=\count94 > ) > > ! LaTeX Error: Cannot determine size of graphic in myplot.pdf (no > BoundingBox). > > The file myplot.pdf is based on myplot.eps who is transformed into a > pdf with the eps2pdf perl-script found via the TUG homepage. > > Now, I am 100% certain it is an eps with a bounding box. I have even > explictly marked the bounding box with the pstoeps option in > GhostView. So, what am I doing wrong? > > Another question, how do one go about to install a newer > pdftex-version into the MikTeX distribution(rather than the Web2C > distribution)? Is it possible for a "normal" (is anybody using TeX > normal?) user or do you have to be a super wiz/guru? pdftex-0.12l does not support PDF inclusion yet. I don't have MikTeX, but I think it should be possible to install a newer version of pdftex into MikTeX Thanh From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Oct 5 01:39:34 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA09998 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 01:39:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA25804 for pdftex-list; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 03:25:11 -0400 Received: from ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr (ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.232.33]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA25801 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 03:25:09 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29110; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:25:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id JAA13797; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:27:11 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:27:11 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199810050727.JAA13797@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: penkavmr@uwec.edu Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Minus signs don't print In-Reply-To: <3616DA5F.81D09067@web1.ecol.net> References: <3616DA5F.81D09067@web1.ecol.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Concernant « Minus signs don't print », Michael Penkava écrit : « » I am a professor in a math department, and I am » trying to get a reasonable manner of posting homework » and papers to my web page. Since students do not » typically have access to ghostview, I thought that » using pdf files would be a good way to go. But recently, » one of my colleagues noticed that the version 3.0 of » the Adobe Acrobat reader, while showing minus signs on the » screen, does not print them to the printer. If the file is » printed using Ghostview, this problem does not occur. » Are you using bakoma or bluesky fonts? I've seen that kind of things in 2 cases - with bakoma fonts, some glyphs do have problems when printing (radical sign e.g.) - with bluesky fonts used together with a wrong .enc file from pdftex.map. Thierry Bouche, Grenoble. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Oct 5 02:57:49 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA11419 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 02:57:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA26034 for pdftex-list; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 04:41:40 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA26031 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 04:41:37 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11383; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:41:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA12120; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:41:26 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <199810050841.KAA12120@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh In-Reply-To: <9626-Fri02Oct1998144650+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> from Sebastian Rahtz at "Oct 2, 98 02:46:50 pm" To: s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk (Sebastian Rahtz) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:41:26 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org (PDFTEX) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > Can I humbly suggest that when Thanh is settled back in and > assimilated Pavel's work, a pdftex 0.13 release would be no bad thing? > Just to make it clear to everyone where we are. I'm going to study Pavel's changes. pdftex-0.13 will be released hopefully soon. A bug concerning to T1 font downloading should be fixed (the one mentioned by Tom). Actually I don't have an overview which bugs are fixed and which are not, resp. what needs changes etc. Please re-send any bug report or suggestion so we can work on it for the new release. Thanh From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Oct 5 03:21:48 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA11784 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 03:21:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA26085 for pdftex-list; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 05:03:34 -0400 Received: from xerxes.thphy.uni-duesseldorf.de (xerxes.thphy.uni-duesseldorf.de [134.99.64.10]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA26082 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 05:03:32 -0400 Received: from attila.uni-duesseldorf.de (attila [134.99.64.144]) by xerxes.thphy.uni-duesseldorf.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA03440; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 11:02:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by attila.uni-duesseldorf.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA13159; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 11:03:00 +0200 Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 11:03:00 +0200 Message-Id: <199810050903.LAA13159@attila.uni-duesseldorf.de> To: Thierry.Bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr CC: penkavmr@uwec.edu, pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <199810050727.JAA13797@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> (message from Thierry Bouche on Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:27:11 +0200 (MET DST)) Subject: Re: Minus signs don't print From: Ulrik Vieth Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <3616DA5F.81D09067@web1.ecol.net> <199810050727.JAA13797@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Thierry Bouche, Grenoble: > Are you using bakoma or bluesky fonts? > I've seen that kind of things in 2 cases > - with bakoma fonts, some glyphs do have problems when printing > (radical sign e.g.) > - with bluesky fonts used together with a wrong .enc file from pdftex.map. Could it have something to do with the fact that the minus sign in CMSY happens to have character code 0, which also happens to be the end-of-string indicator in C library functions? Just an idea. Cheers, Ulrik. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Oct 5 03:53:12 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA12274 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 03:53:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA26241 for pdftex-list; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 05:35:30 -0400 Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA26238 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 05:35:29 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.20.121]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA6D3E; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 11:35:23 +0200 Message-ID: <361892FF.695E217E@wxs.nl> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 10:35:59 +0100 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erik Frisk CC: pdftex Subject: Re: Problems with inclusion of pdf-images References: <3616BBF1.55A94916@isy.liu.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Erik Frisk wrote: > ! LaTeX Error: Cannot determine size of graphic in myplot.pdf (no > BoundingBox). A pdf file has a mediabox not a boundingbox. The mediabox is a sort of clippath and boundingbox in one. > Now, I am 100% certain it is an eps with a bounding box. I have even > explictly marked the bounding box with the pstoeps option in > GhostView. So, what am I doing wrong? Search for /mediabox in the pdffile. Tex can pretty wel search for that one. Actually, pdftex does not have to look at the mediabox at all, did you try \pdfimage file.pdf? Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Oct 5 04:23:12 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA12718 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 04:23:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA26556 for pdftex-list; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 06:16:15 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA26553 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 06:16:14 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id LAA27801; hop 0; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 11:08:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 11:15:10 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13848.36578.948000.562189@SRAHTZ> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:18:26 +0100 ( `) To: jmatos@math.ist.utl.pt Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdf file inclusion does not work under Digital Unix In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Joao Palhoto Matos writes: > I somehow suspect that no one developing the pdftex code has direct access > to Digital Unix. I lack the knowledge (or time to get it) to track this this is almost certainly true. and its also almost certainly true to the C++ compilation of the xpdf stuff which allows .pdf to be included. But without any details to this list, what can one say? Sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Oct 5 04:23:49 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA12737 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 04:23:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA26548 for pdftex-list; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 06:15:48 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA26544 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 06:15:46 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id LAA27763; hop 0; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 11:08:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 11:14:42 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13848.36240.201000.32747@SRAHTZ> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:12:48 +0100 ( `) To: jklymak@apl.washington.edu Cc: frisk@isy.liu.se, pdftex@tug.org Subject: RE: Problems with inclusion of pdf-images In-Reply-To: <000801bdef29$eec88c20$98615f80@galiano.apl.washington.edu> References: <3616BBF1.55A94916@isy.liu.se> <000801bdef29$eec88c20$98615f80@galiano.apl.washington.edu> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Jody Klymak writes: > Second, make sure you have the newest pdftex.def, avaialble at > http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex somewhere in your TeX tree. seconded, i suspect thats all thats needed > Third, a question for you. How on earth did you get epstopdf to work on a > win32 machine? I found I had to hack the crap out of it. > since i work under win32, and developed epstopdf there, i find this a bit odd! Sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Oct 5 04:35:23 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA12912 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 04:35:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA26568 for pdftex-list; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 06:17:06 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA26565 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 06:17:05 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id LAA27844; hop 0; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 11:09:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 11:16:02 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13848.37182.355000.10593@SRAHTZ> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:28:30 +0100 ( `) To: thanh@informatics.muni.cz Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh In-Reply-To: <199810050841.KAA12120@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <9626-Fri02Oct1998144650+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> <199810050841.KAA12120@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Han The Thanh writes: > Actually I don't have an overview which bugs are fixed and which > are not, resp. what needs changes etc. Please re-send any bug > report or suggestion so we can work on it for the new release. not a bug, but a reminder to the long-suffering Pavel that TIFF file inclusion cannot be really useful until it stops converting black and white figures to full colour, and supports all the resolution information :-} I do not want to be alarmist, but Acrobat 4 is on the horizon, currently in beta test, and has a new revision of the PDF language (1.3). as soon as documentation becomes available, there are probably new features pdftex will want to support. sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Oct 5 09:25:20 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA18664 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:25:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA27238 for pdftex-list; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:18:21 -0400 Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA27234 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:18:20 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.20.39]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA2C6B; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 16:17:40 +0200 Message-ID: <3618BC98.D58C0BB6@wxs.nl> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 13:33:28 +0100 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sebastian Rahtz CC: thanh@informatics.muni.cz, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh References: <9626-Fri02Oct1998144650+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> <199810050841.KAA12120@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <13848.37182.355000.10593@SRAHTZ> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > Han The Thanh writes: > > Actually I don't have an overview which bugs are fixed and which > > are not, resp. what needs changes etc. Please re-send any bug > > report or suggestion so we can work on it for the new release. > > not a bug, but a reminder to the long-suffering Pavel that TIFF file > inclusion cannot be really useful until it stops converting black and > white figures to full colour, and supports all the resolution > information :-} Maybe it makes sense to include tiff graphics as png (read in as tiff, write to pdf as png). > I do not want to be alarmist, but Acrobat 4 is on the horizon, > currently in beta test, and has a new revision of the PDF language > (1.3). as soon as documentation becomes available, there are probably > new features pdftex will want to support. You can bet that I keep an eye on that! Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Oct 5 09:25:45 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA18686 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:25:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA27304 for pdftex-list; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:30:59 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA27301 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:30:57 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id PAA08773; hop 0; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:23:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:29:55 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13848.54772.459000.441463@SRAHTZ> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:21:40 +0100 ( `) To: pragma@wxs.nl Cc: thanh@informatics.muni.cz, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh In-Reply-To: <3618BC98.D58C0BB6@wxs.nl> References: <9626-Fri02Oct1998144650+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> <199810050841.KAA12120@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <13848.37182.355000.10593@SRAHTZ> <3618BC98.D58C0BB6@wxs.nl> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hans Hagen writes: > > Maybe it makes sense to include tiff graphics as png (read in as tiff, > write to pdf as png). > isnt that what happens already? > > (1.3). as soon as documentation becomes available, there are probably > > new features pdftex will want to support. > > You can bet that I keep an eye on that! if they ever tell us about structure, damn them sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Oct 5 10:46:41 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20702 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:46:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA27541 for pdftex-list; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 11:44:33 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA27538 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 11:44:21 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (0@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA17399; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 17:44:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA07757; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 17:29:57 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <199810051529.RAA07757@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh In-Reply-To: <13848.37182.355000.10593@SRAHTZ> from Sebastian Rahtz at "Oct 5, 98 10:28:30 am" To: s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk (Sebastian Rahtz) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 17:29:57 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org (PDFTEX) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > > Actually I don't have an overview which bugs are fixed and which > > are not, resp. what needs changes etc. Please re-send any bug > > report or suggestion so we can work on it for the new release. > > not a bug, but a reminder to the long-suffering Pavel that TIFF file > inclusion cannot be really useful until it stops converting black and > white figures to full colour, and supports all the resolution > information :-} what do you think of a tiff2png convertor? Thanh From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Oct 5 11:19:35 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21616 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 11:19:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA27647 for pdftex-list; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 12:04:38 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA27643 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 12:04:34 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id QAA12918; hop 0; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 16:57:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 17:03:25 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13848.60191.421000.410373@SRAHTZ> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 16:51:59 +0100 ( `) To: thanh@informatics.muni.cz Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh In-Reply-To: <199810051529.RAA07757@anxur.fi.muni.cz> References: <13848.37182.355000.10593@SRAHTZ> <199810051529.RAA07757@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Han The Thanh writes: > > what do you think of a tiff2png convertor? > the same way I think of dvi->ps->pdf --- I'd rather avoid the hassles of intermediate files :-} but the problem is that there does not appear to *be* a reliable, free, simple, tiff2png. unless I am much mistaken, the tiff2png in the PNG collections ignores resolution info. yes, I can use ImageMagick. but that always seems a slowcoach. Sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Oct 5 11:44:43 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA22327 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 11:43:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA27781 for pdftex-list; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 12:38:48 -0400 Received: from mailman.campbellsci.com (mailman.campbellsci.com [207.201.118.3]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA27778 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 12:38:47 -0400 Received: from carl_zmola ([207.201.118.7]) by mailman.campbellsci.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with SMTP id AAA227; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:37:46 -0600 From: "Carl Zmola" To: pdftex Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:33:51 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Problems with inclusion of pdf-images Reply-to: zmola@campbellsci.com CC: Erik Frisk In-reply-to: <3616BBF1.55A94916@isy.liu.se> Message-ID: <19981005163745863.AAA227@carl_zmola> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Problems with inclusion of pdf-images > I have problems including pdf graphics in my documents. > I use the pdftex version included in the last MikTeX distribution, > 0.12l ^^^ I had the same problem. Unfortunatly this version does not support pdf graphics. Christian Shenck is planning to put a new pdftex in to the next release of MikTeX. I would love to figure out how to keep up to date with pdftex with my miktex distribution, but there are enough differences between web2c and miktex that this seems unlikely until the next release of miktex. My solution is to use pdftex on linux when I need new features. Carl zmola@campbellsci.com From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Oct 5 13:06:35 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA24585 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 13:06:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA28087 for pdftex-list; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 13:56:41 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (pavel@SnowWhite.inet.cz [194.196.192.9]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA28083 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 13:56:37 -0400 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA02322; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 19:54:17 +0200 To: Hans Hagen CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh References: <9626-Fri02Oct1998144650+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> <199810050841.KAA12120@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <13848.37182.355000.10593@SRAHTZ> <3618BC98.D58C0BB6@wxs.nl> X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.123 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicited e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicited e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 05 Oct 1998 19:54:16 +0200 In-Reply-To: Hans Hagen's message of Mon, 05 Oct 1998 13:33:28 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 13 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: Hans Hagen Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 13:33:28 +0100 Hi, > Maybe it makes sense to include tiff graphics as png (read in as tiff, > write to pdf as png). it's not possible - B&W TIFFs are not so hard to do - give me three hours of free time and it will be done. -- Pavel Janík ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Oct 5 14:34:36 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26971 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:34:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA28260 for pdftex-list; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:11:02 -0400 Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA28257 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:11:00 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.21.169]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA28BC; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 21:07:18 +0200 Message-ID: <3618EF32.24E0121B@wxs.nl> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 17:09:22 +0100 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sebastian Rahtz CC: thanh@informatics.muni.cz, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh References: <9626-Fri02Oct1998144650+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> <199810050841.KAA12120@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <13848.37182.355000.10593@SRAHTZ> <3618BC98.D58C0BB6@wxs.nl> <13848.54772.459000.441463@SRAHTZ> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > Hans Hagen writes: > > > > Maybe it makes sense to include tiff graphics as png (read in as tiff, > > write to pdf as png). > > > isnt that what happens already? Well, tiff is natural to pdf, but only a limited subset. Therefore, converting is sometimes needed. And, therefore, why not load the bitmap using a tif lib and pack/flush it using the png one. We know that the latter works ok! > > > (1.3). as soon as documentation becomes available, there are probably > > > new features pdftex will want to support. > > > > You can bet that I keep an eye on that! > if they ever tell us about structure, damn them Some day there will be pdf files around that we can reverse engineer. Isn't that the way we always got things working? Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Oct 6 01:38:27 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA11447 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 01:38:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA28944 for pdftex-list; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 03:06:28 -0400 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA28941 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 03:06:26 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.20.147]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA97F; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:06:10 +0200 Message-ID: <36192D23.42D2D97@wxs.nl> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 21:33:39 +0100 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sebastian Rahtz CC: thanh@informatics.muni.cz, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh References: <13848.37182.355000.10593@SRAHTZ> <199810051529.RAA07757@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <13848.60191.421000.410373@SRAHTZ> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > Han The Thanh writes: > > > > what do you think of a tiff2png convertor? > > > > the same way I think of dvi->ps->pdf --- I'd rather avoid the hassles > of intermediate files :-} > > but the problem is that there does not appear to *be* a reliable, > free, simple, tiff2png. unless I am much mistaken, the tiff2png in the > PNG collections ignores resolution info. Tiff is an ever expanding format, as one would expect from an adobe standard, while png is much more stable. Keeping up with tiff extensions mandates frequent pdftex updates. Nevertheless, it makes sense to support tiff, if only as S said: to avoid intermediate files. > yes, I can use ImageMagick. but that always seems a slowcoach. Well, tiff inclusion in pdftex is slow anyway compared to png and will always be. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Oct 6 01:43:13 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA11533 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 01:43:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA28949 for pdftex-list; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 03:06:31 -0400 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA28946 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 03:06:29 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.20.147]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA9CA; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:06:25 +0200 Message-ID: <3619393C.7F1B3BBA@wxs.nl> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 22:25:16 +0100 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Pavel Janik ml." CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh References: <9626-Fri02Oct1998144650+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> <199810050841.KAA12120@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <13848.37182.355000.10593@SRAHTZ> <3618BC98.D58C0BB6@wxs.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Pavel Janik ml. wrote: > > Maybe it makes sense to include tiff graphics as png (read in as tiff, > > write to pdf as png). > > it's not possible - B&W TIFFs are not so hard to do - give me three > hours of free time and it will be done. Ok, I hereby give you five hours free time. Just a stupid question. Can't these libs cooperate? One constructing a bitmap (from tiff), the other processing it (to png), and afterwards pdftex including it? Even downsampling then should be possible. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Oct 6 02:38:07 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA12798 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 02:38:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA29275 for pdftex-list; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 03:57:47 -0400 Received: from samba.intra.jablotron.cz (gw.jablotron.cz [194.228.41.250]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA29271 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 03:57:41 -0400 Received: from Osoba.intra.jablotron.cz (osoba.intra.jablotron.cz [192.168.250.38]) by samba.intra.jablotron.cz with SMTP id KAA17707 (8.7.6/IDA-1.6 for ); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:02:57 +0200 Message-ID: <199810060802.KAA17707@samba.intra.jablotron.cz> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Jiri Osoba" Organization: Jablotron Ltd. - Development dpt. To: pdftex@tug.org Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:59:00 +0200 Subject: PDF encryption Reply-to: Jiri Osoba X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I have an (may be stupid) idea: What about adding encryption to pdfTeX to secure informations in PDF? Jiri. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Oct 6 02:50:10 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13006 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 02:50:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA29365 for pdftex-list; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 04:04:05 -0400 Received: from ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr (ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.232.33]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA29362 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 04:04:01 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22312 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:04:00 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id KAA18533; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:06:27 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:06:27 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199810060806.KAA18533@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh In-Reply-To: <3619393C.7F1B3BBA@wxs.nl> References: <9626-Fri02Oct1998144650+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> <199810050841.KAA12120@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <13848.37182.355000.10593@SRAHTZ> <3618BC98.D58C0BB6@wxs.nl> <3619393C.7F1B3BBA@wxs.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Even downsampling then should be possible. Hey! we're talking of pdftex, not exchange! (even if i dream too ;-) Thierry Bouche. ----- thierry.bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr http://www-fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr/~bouche/pdfTeX From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Oct 6 03:43:45 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA13815 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 03:43:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA29707 for pdftex-list; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 05:13:57 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA29704 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 05:13:55 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id KAA27943; hop 0; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:06:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:12:50 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13849.55596.800000.224987@SRAHTZ> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:47:40 +0100 ( `) To: pragma@wxs.nl Cc: thanh@informatics.muni.cz, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh In-Reply-To: <36192D23.42D2D97@wxs.nl> References: <13848.37182.355000.10593@SRAHTZ> <199810051529.RAA07757@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <13848.60191.421000.410373@SRAHTZ> <36192D23.42D2D97@wxs.nl> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hans Hagen writes: > Tiff is an ever expanding format, as one would expect from an adobe > standard, while png is much more stable. Keeping up with tiff extensions > mandates frequent pdftex updates. Nevertheless, it makes sense to oh come. when did anyone last make a new TIFF type? its been stable for years! > Well, tiff inclusion in pdftex is slow anyway compared to png and will > always be. > well, thats what I was hoping would NOT be true:-} Distiller does it fast enough! sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Oct 6 11:50:49 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24413 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:47:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA30698 for pdftex-list; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:41:19 -0400 Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA30695 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:41:15 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.20.194]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA20AF; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:39:53 +0200 Message-ID: <361A2ECF.B6348426@wxs.nl> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 15:53:03 +0100 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thierry Bouche CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh References: <9626-Fri02Oct1998144650+0100-s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk> <199810050841.KAA12120@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <13848.37182.355000.10593@SRAHTZ> <3618BC98.D58C0BB6@wxs.nl> <3619393C.7F1B3BBA@wxs.nl> <199810060806.KAA18533@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Thierry Bouche wrote: > > > Even downsampling then should be possible. > > Hey! we're talking of pdftex, not exchange! Well, downsampling would fit in ok, that is, if the libraries support it, but optimizing is a different case (although needed some day, probably by pdfoptimize). Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Oct 6 11:59:12 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24671 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:57:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA30687 for pdftex-list; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:39:45 -0400 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA30684 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:39:44 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.20.194]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA5547; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:39:08 +0200 Message-ID: <361A2C4A.C6612D87@wxs.nl> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 15:42:19 +0100 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sebastian Rahtz CC: thanh@informatics.muni.cz, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh References: <13848.37182.355000.10593@SRAHTZ> <199810051529.RAA07757@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <13848.60191.421000.410373@SRAHTZ> <36192D23.42D2D97@wxs.nl> <13849.55596.800000.224987@SRAHTZ> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > Hans Hagen writes: > > Tiff is an ever expanding format, as one would expect from an adobe > > standard, while png is much more stable. Keeping up with tiff extensions > > mandates frequent pdftex updates. Nevertheless, it makes sense to > oh come. when did anyone last make a new TIFF type? its been stable > for years! Ok, what I meant was that depending on the source, different tiff tags are used. I have some tiffs around that even Photoshop has problems with and/or can generate Photoshop ones that pdftex barks on. Anyway, if tiff is stable since 'final version 1992', then why are some tiffs problematic for tifflib? > > Well, tiff inclusion in pdftex is slow anyway compared to png and will > > always be. > > > well, thats what I was hoping would NOT be true:-} > > Distiller does it fast enough! Maybe xpdflib does unnecessary packing/unpacking of streams? Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Oct 6 22:53:15 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA10871 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 22:53:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA32121 for pdftex-list; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 00:29:00 -0400 Received: from mailhost.cyberramp.net (root@mailhost.cyberramp.net [207.158.64.11]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA32118 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 00:28:59 -0400 Received: from fuzzylog.simple.dallas.tx.us (dal-tsa21-52.cyberramp.net [207.158.106.116]) by mailhost.cyberramp.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1/ler-981006-1336) with ESMTP id XAA10894; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 23:28:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from scooby (scooby [192.168.1.3]) by fuzzylog.simple.dallas.tx.us (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA00942; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 23:28:54 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 23:28:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Bob Friesenhahn To: Sebastian Rahtz cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh In-Reply-To: <13849.55596.800000.224987@SRAHTZ> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > Hans Hagen writes: > > Tiff is an ever expanding format, as one would expect from an adobe > > standard, while png is much more stable. Keeping up with tiff extensions > > mandates frequent pdftex updates. Nevertheless, it makes sense to > oh come. when did anyone last make a new TIFF type? its been stable > for years! > > > Well, tiff inclusion in pdftex is slow anyway compared to png and will > > always be. > > > well, thats what I was hoping would NOT be true:-} The ImageMagick 'identify' program reads the entire image into memory in order to verify its contents. A simple test reading TIFF and PNG images shows that reading TIFF images is somewhat slower than reading PNG images but not dramatically so: time identify alley-01.tiff alley-01.tiff 1691x1162 DirectClass 6678kb TIFF 3s identify alley-01.tiff 1.93s user 0.18s system 100% cpu 2.104 total time identify alley-01.png alley-01.png 1691x1162 DirectClass 3376kb PNG 2s identify alley-01.png 1.68s user 0.16s system 100% cpu 1.830 total The ImageMagick package is quite comprehensive and supports oodles of formats (it seems there are more every day and these are continually verified via a test suite). It provides a library with a stable API which can be used to read these image formats. ImageMagick runs on all UNIXs, Win-32, the Mac, and VMS. Perhaps pdftex should use the ImageMagick library in order to avoid the need to require a particular image format? Bob ====================================== Bob Friesenhahn bfriesen@simple.dallas.tx.us http://www.cyberramp.net/~bfriesen From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Oct 7 04:06:06 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA17136 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 04:06:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA32689 for pdftex-list; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 05:20:14 -0400 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA32686 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 05:20:12 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.21.140]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA43D4; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:19:36 +0200 Message-ID: <361B4103.AD1B9EBB@wxs.nl> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 11:22:59 +0100 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Friesenhahn CC: Sebastian Rahtz , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > The ImageMagick package is quite comprehensive and supports oodles of formats > (it seems there are more every day and these are continually verified via a > test suite). It provides a library with a stable API which can be used to read > these image formats. ImageMagick runs on all UNIXs, Win-32, the Mac, and VMS. > Perhaps pdftex should use the ImageMagick library in order to avoid the need > to require a particular image format? Indeed, worth looking into. Apart from the interfacing aspect, this would be a great extension. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Oct 7 04:24:53 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA17462 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 04:24:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA32756 for pdftex-list; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 05:38:53 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA32753 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 05:38:51 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id KAA01438; hop 0; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:31:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:37:49 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13851.13578.967000.834567@SRAHTZ> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:31:54 +0100 ( `) To: bfriesen@simple.dallas.tx.us Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh In-Reply-To: References: <13849.55596.800000.224987@SRAHTZ> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Bob Friesenhahn writes: > to verify its contents. A simple test reading TIFF and PNG images > shows that reading TIFF images is somewhat slower than reading PNG > images but not dramatically so: I am not sure that proves that IM is not slow _per se_.... > these image formats. ImageMagick runs on all UNIXs, Win-32, the > Mac, and VMS. Perhaps pdftex should use the ImageMagick library in > order to avoid the need > to require a particular image format? well worth a try, isnt it? ideally, it could be configured at compile time so that one could choose to include ImageMagick libraries for conversion, or not. linking in IM would mean that .eps files would work, as IM would silently call GS to convert to PNG ..... sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Oct 7 05:28:41 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA18525 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 05:28:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA00278 for pdftex-list; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 06:47:47 -0400 Received: from monster.igd.fhg.de (monster.igd.fhg.de [153.97.128.43]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id GAA00275 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 06:47:44 -0400 Received: from smurfsoft.dauenhauer.de (isdnprj110) by monster.igd.fhg.de (5.x/SMI-4.1) id AA22227; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:46:42 +0200 Received: from zgdv.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smurfsoft.dauenhauer.de (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA06849 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:46:10 +0200 Message-Id: <361B4671.77FFE50B@zgdv.de> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 12:46:09 +0200 From: Christian Kumpf Organization: ZGDV X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.35 i586) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick [was: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh] References: <13849.55596.800000.224987@SRAHTZ> <13851.13578.967000.834567@SRAHTZ> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > linking in IM would mean that .eps files would work, as IM would > silently call GS to convert to PNG ..... This is rather a con than a pro. IMHO it's better to not include an image at all than importing it with poor quality. And such an automatic conversion from vector to bitmap would always result in either bad quality or unneccessary huge output. Automatic conversion is quite a good thing, if we keep the basic paradigm (bitmap->bitmap or vector->vector) but we can't switch between them. Christian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Oct 7 06:14:27 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19386 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 06:14:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA00444 for pdftex-list; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 07:25:52 -0400 Received: from earth.ox.ac.uk (darwin.earth.ox.ac.uk [163.1.22.6]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA00441 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 07:25:40 -0400 Received: from metropolis.earth.ox.ac.uk (metropolis [163.1.22.59]) by earth.ox.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA15501; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:25:25 +0100 (BST) From: Keith Refson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13851.20388.608093.225078@metropolis> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:25:24 +0100 (BST) To: Christian Kumpf Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick [was: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh] In-Reply-To: <361B4671.77FFE50B@zgdv.de> References: <13849.55596.800000.224987@SRAHTZ> <13851.13578.967000.834567@SRAHTZ> <361B4671.77FFE50B@zgdv.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.62 under Emacs 20.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Christian Kumpf writes: > Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > > linking in IM would mean that .eps files would work, as IM would > > silently call GS to convert to PNG ..... > > This is rather a con than a pro. IMHO it's better to not include an > image at all than importing it with poor quality. And such an automatic > conversion from vector to bitmap would always result in either bad > quality or unneccessary huge output. > > Automatic conversion is quite a good thing, if we keep the basic > paradigm (bitmap->bitmap or vector->vector) but we can't switch between > them. Well there's always pstoedit which does a vector PostScript to vector PDF translation. The trouble comes in determining whether a given .eps file contains vector graphics, bitmaps or quite conceivably both. Unless somebody can come up with an unambiguous definition of the "right thing" for all EPS files this could be a real can of worms. You'd have to add another primitive or option to select which conversion route, supported by an option to "\includegraphics" for us LaTeXies. Keith Refson -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Email: Keith.Refson@ | Tel: +44 1865 272026 | Dr Keith Refson, | earth.ox.ac.uk | Fax: +44 1865 272072 | Dept of Earth Sciences | Spam: root@cyberpromo.com | Parks Road, Oxford OX1 3PR, UK| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Oct 7 06:35:52 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19834 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 06:35:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA00564 for pdftex-list; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 07:46:02 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA00561 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 07:46:00 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id MAA06196; hop 0; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:38:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:45:03 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13851.19202.92000.646796@SRAHTZ> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:05:38 +0100 ( `) To: kumpf@igd.fhg.de Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick [was: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh] In-Reply-To: <361B4671.77FFE50B@zgdv.de> References: <13849.55596.800000.224987@SRAHTZ> <13851.13578.967000.834567@SRAHTZ> <361B4671.77FFE50B@zgdv.de> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Christian Kumpf writes: > > linking in IM would mean that .eps files would work, as IM would > > silently call GS to convert to PNG ..... > > This is rather a con than a pro. IMHO it's better to not include an > image at all than importing it with poor quality. And such an automatic > conversion from vector to bitmap would always result in either bad > quality or unneccessary huge output. But its what many many people do in practice. in time, IM could be persuaded to do a proper PDF version of the EPS, but in the short term, eps->png is, IMHO, better than nothing. i guess the answer would be to have the config file list input graphics files extensions, and the desired output (pdf or png), so you could control what .eps does and, of course, this is the place to support downsampling, like that which Distiller provides > Automatic conversion is quite a good thing, if we keep the basic > paradigm (bitmap->bitmap or vector->vector) but we can't switch between > them. > agreed in principle sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Oct 7 06:43:24 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19965 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 06:43:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA00574 for pdftex-list; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 07:46:54 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA00570 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 07:46:52 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id MAA06257; hop 0; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:39:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:45:54 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13851.21031.112000.755788@SRAHTZ> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:36:07 +0100 ( `) To: Keith.Refson@earth.ox.ac.uk Cc: kumpf@igd.fhg.de, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick [was: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh] In-Reply-To: <13851.20388.608093.225078@metropolis> References: <13849.55596.800000.224987@SRAHTZ> <13851.13578.967000.834567@SRAHTZ> <361B4671.77FFE50B@zgdv.de> <13851.20388.608093.225078@metropolis> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Keith Refson writes: > Well there's always pstoedit which does a vector PostScript to vector > PDF translation. The trouble comes in determining whether a given > .eps file contains vector graphics, bitmaps or quite conceivably both. you mean it ignores bitmaps? gasp. > Unless somebody can come up with an unambiguous definition of the > "right thing" for all EPS files this could be a real can of worms. surely the "right thing" is a full conversion to PDF, such as you get from Distiller? sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Oct 7 07:15:38 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20593 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 07:15:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA00701 for pdftex-list; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:02:30 -0400 Received: from ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr (ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.232.33]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA00698 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:02:29 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04659; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:02:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id OAA15892; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:04:45 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:04:45 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199810071204.OAA15892@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: Christian Kumpf Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick [was: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh] In-Reply-To: <361B4671.77FFE50B@zgdv.de> References: <13849.55596.800000.224987@SRAHTZ> <13851.13578.967000.834567@SRAHTZ> <361B4671.77FFE50B@zgdv.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk This ImageMagick is something commercial, isn't it? I thought LZW compression had been rejected for commercial reasons, are we going to have as many pdftex as local configurations? Thierry Bouche, Grenoble. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Oct 7 09:32:09 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23707 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:31:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA01788 for pdftex-list; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:32:20 -0400 Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA01785 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:32:19 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.21.66]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA22CC; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:32:09 +0200 Message-ID: <361B889C.6CBE5605@wxs.nl> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 16:28:28 +0100 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sebastian Rahtz CC: kumpf@igd.fhg.de, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick [was: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh] References: <13849.55596.800000.224987@SRAHTZ> <13851.13578.967000.834567@SRAHTZ> <361B4671.77FFE50B@zgdv.de> <13851.19202.92000.646796@SRAHTZ> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > i guess the answer would be to have the config file list input > graphics files extensions, and the desired output (pdf or png), so you > could control what .eps does Please, no more setups in the config file! The pdfoutput= is already a pain for macro packages. \pdfimagemagic filename options {} I currently let my macros sort out what is available and what to include when more formats are available, and I would like to keep it that way. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Oct 7 10:01:28 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24462 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:01:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA01792 for pdftex-list; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:32:37 -0400 Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA01789 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:32:35 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.21.66]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA2014; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:32:12 +0200 Message-ID: <361B896F.D2226A6C@wxs.nl> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 16:31:59 +0100 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Keith Refson CC: Christian Kumpf , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick [was: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh] References: <13849.55596.800000.224987@SRAHTZ> <13851.13578.967000.834567@SRAHTZ> <361B4671.77FFE50B@zgdv.de> <13851.20388.608093.225078@metropolis> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Keith Refson wrote: > Well there's always pstoedit which does a vector PostScript to vector > PDF translation. The trouble comes in determining whether a given > .eps file contains vector graphics, bitmaps or quite conceivably both. > > Unless somebody can come up with an unambiguous definition of the > "right thing" for all EPS files this could be a real can of worms. Indeed. Only real distilling eps to pdf would do (graphics, fonts etc). On the other hand, I can think of a more clever scheme, where graphics and fonts are separated or at least handled in such a way that when including hundreds of graphics with text are included in such a way that the fonts are handled by tex and therefore subsetted and included only once. I pstoedit can produce an intermediate format from which pdftex can sort out the fonts ... Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Oct 7 07:35:14 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21028 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 07:35:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA00915 for pdftex-list; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:35:13 -0400 Received: from monster.igd.fhg.de (monster.igd.fhg.de [153.97.128.43]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA00912 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:35:11 -0400 Received: from smurfsoft.dauenhauer.de (isdnprj110) by monster.igd.fhg.de (5.x/SMI-4.1) id AA23671; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:35:08 +0200 Received: from zgdv.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smurfsoft.dauenhauer.de (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA07520; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:34:31 +0200 Message-Id: <361B5FCC.226176C0@zgdv.de> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 14:34:21 +0200 From: Christian Kumpf Organization: ZGDV X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.35 i586) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Thierry Bouche Cc: Christian Kumpf , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick [was: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh] References: <13849.55596.800000.224987@SRAHTZ> <13851.13578.967000.834567@SRAHTZ> <361B4671.77FFE50B@zgdv.de> <199810071204.OAA15892@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Thierry Bouche wrote: > This ImageMagick is something commercial, isn't it? It's copyright is not GPL but has a whole zoo of licences for the various functions and sub-libraries. In summary as far as I can see, every part of ImageMagick is free and distributable. For that matter: TeX itself is `commercial' and copyrighted by the ACM and Addison Wesley - and we all use it. :-) Christian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Oct 7 07:36:15 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21053 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 07:35:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA01006 for pdftex-list; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:47:40 -0400 Received: from mail.cs.uu.nl (sunset.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.32]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA01003 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:47:38 -0400 Received: from kemmel.cs.uu.nl (kemmel.cs.uu.nl 131.211.80.82) by mail.cs.uu.nl (VMailer) via SMTP id 2F716B0390; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:47:32 +0200 (MET DST) From: Piet van Oostrum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13851.25316.289895.661362@kemmel.cs.uu.nl> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:47:32 +0200 (MDT) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick [was: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh] In-Reply-To: <199810071204.OAA15892@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> References: <13849.55596.800000.224987@SRAHTZ> <13851.13578.967000.834567@SRAHTZ> <361B4671.77FFE50B@zgdv.de> <199810071204.OAA15892@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> X-Mailer: VM 6.62 under Emacs 19.34.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Thierry Bouche (TB) writes: TB> This ImageMagick is something commercial, isn't it? No, it isn't. It is freely distributable, copyrighted software. TB> I thought LZW compression had been rejected for commercial reasons, It is impossible to include LZW compression in free software legally. To be more precise: Unisys would require you to pay a licence fee for every downloaded copy and you would have to administer all copies. Imagemagick can be built with or without LZW. Presumably you could build it with LZW if you pay the licence fee yourself. GIF images can be made without LZW compression (only RLE compression), but of course they will then get bigger. For PDF LZW isn't necessary, as ZIP (Flate) compression can be used. -- Piet van Oostrum URL: http://www.cs.uu.nl/~piet [PGP] Private email: Piet.van.Oostrum@gironet.nl From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Oct 7 08:02:15 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA21572 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:02:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA01073 for pdftex-list; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:53:59 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA01070 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:53:57 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id NAA08519; hop 0; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:46:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:53:03 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13851.25342.612000.89647@SRAHTZ> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:47:58 +0100 ( `) To: Thierry.Bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr Cc: kumpf@igd.fhg.de, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick [was: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh] In-Reply-To: <199810071204.OAA15892@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> References: <13849.55596.800000.224987@SRAHTZ> <13851.13578.967000.834567@SRAHTZ> <361B4671.77FFE50B@zgdv.de> <199810071204.OAA15892@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Thierry Bouche writes: > This ImageMagick is something commercial, isn't it? no! its excellent free software, highly recommended > are we going to have as many pdftex as local configurations? yes :- s From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Oct 7 08:18:28 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA22006 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:18:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA01288 for pdftex-list; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:20:10 -0400 Received: from mailhost.cyberramp.net (root@mailhost.cyberramp.net [207.158.64.11]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA01284 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:20:04 -0400 Received: from fuzzylog.simple.dallas.tx.us (dal-tsa30-9.cyberramp.net [209.196.65.73]) by mailhost.cyberramp.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1/ler-981006-1336) with ESMTP id IAA00292; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:20:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from scooby (scooby [192.168.1.3]) by fuzzylog.simple.dallas.tx.us (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA01143; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:19:58 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:19:58 -0500 (CDT) From: Bob Friesenhahn To: Christian Kumpf cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick [was: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh] In-Reply-To: <361B4671.77FFE50B@zgdv.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Christian Kumpf wrote: > Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > > linking in IM would mean that .eps files would work, as IM would > > silently call GS to convert to PNG ..... > > This is rather a con than a pro. IMHO it's better to not include an > image at all than importing it with poor quality. And such an automatic > conversion from vector to bitmap would always result in either bad > quality or unneccessary huge output. Yes, ImageMagick is great for bitmap images but would not produce the desired level of quality for vector-oriented graphics since these would be expanded to a much larger bitmap representation, causing the generated PDF to be excessively large. This is probably a shortcoming of ImageMagick since it has all the tools at its disposal in this case to do a good vector-vector job. Bob ====================================== Bob Friesenhahn bfriesen@simple.dallas.tx.us http://www.cyberramp.net/~bfriesen From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Oct 7 10:11:37 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24686 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:11:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA01968 for pdftex-list; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:06:39 -0400 Received: from ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr (ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.232.33]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA01965 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:06:37 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA17128; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:06:32 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id RAA23606; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:09:11 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:09:11 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199810071509.RAA23606@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: Sebastian Rahtz Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick [was: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh] In-Reply-To: <13851.25342.612000.89647@SRAHTZ> References: <13849.55596.800000.224987@SRAHTZ> <13851.13578.967000.834567@SRAHTZ> <361B4671.77FFE50B@zgdv.de> <199810071204.OAA15892@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <13851.25342.612000.89647@SRAHTZ> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Concernant « Re: ImageMagick [was: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh] », Sebastian Rahtz écrit : « » Thierry Bouche writes: » > This ImageMagick is something commercial, isn't it? » no! its excellent free software, highly recommended » ah, sorry i mismatched with ImageAlchemy. Indeed i use already mogrify for the PNG i include with pdftex. By default it produces interlaced PNG: i hope that options are supported through library calls... Thierry Bouche, Grenoble. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Oct 7 11:56:31 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA27694 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:56:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA02067 for pdftex-list; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:24:34 -0400 Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA02064 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:24:30 -0400 Received: from fell.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (MMTA v2.2) with ESMTP; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:13:13 +0100 Received: (from car2@localhost) by fell.open.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.6.12) id QAA26963; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:13:11 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Rowley MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:13:10 +0100 (BST) To: Christian Kumpf Cc: Thierry Bouche , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick [was: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh] In-Reply-To: <361B5FCC.226176C0@zgdv.de> References: <13849.55596.800000.224987@SRAHTZ> <13851.13578.967000.834567@SRAHTZ> <361B4671.77FFE50B@zgdv.de> <199810071204.OAA15892@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <361B5FCC.226176C0@zgdv.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.44 under Emacs 19.34.1 Message-ID: <13851.33956.92971.631148@fell.open.ac.uk> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Christian Kumpf wrote -- > > For that matter: TeX itself is `commercial' and copyrighted by the ACM > and Addison Wesley - and we all use it. :-) Err, nice try but ....: % This program is copyright (C) 1982 by D. E. Knuth; all rights are reserved. % TeX is a trademark of the American Mathematical Society. chris From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Oct 7 14:57:36 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02574 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:57:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA02924 for pdftex-list; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:28:56 -0400 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA02921 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:28:34 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.21.191]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA3B13; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:28:18 +0200 Message-ID: <361B9382.190F7679@wxs.nl> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 17:14:58 +0100 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sebastian Rahtz CC: Thierry.Bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr, kumpf@igd.fhg.de, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick [was: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh] References: <13849.55596.800000.224987@SRAHTZ> <13851.13578.967000.834567@SRAHTZ> <361B4671.77FFE50B@zgdv.de> <199810071204.OAA15892@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <13851.25342.612000.89647@SRAHTZ> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sebastian Rahtz wrote: > > Thierry Bouche writes: > > This ImageMagick is something commercial, isn't it? > no! its excellent free software, highly recommended > > > are we going to have as many pdftex as local configurations? > > yes :- Well, isn't that already the case with all those messy fonts? Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Oct 7 21:37:40 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA11388 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:37:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA03256 for pdftex-list; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 23:11:38 -0400 Received: from rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu (rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu [164.107.171.29]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA03253 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 23:11:36 -0400 Received: from gw2 (gw2.eng.ohio-state.edu [164.107.169.221]) by rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id XAA15831 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 23:11:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199810080311.XAA15831@rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu> X-Sender: hubert@rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 23:13:00 -0400 To: pdftex@tug.org From: Chris Hubert Subject: Use of tpic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I was wondering if anyone could point me to a good guide for the use of tpic specials and MetaPost code in pdftex. I see in the manuals that this is possible, "using macros by Hans Hagan." However, I cannot figure out how to do it on my own, nor have I been able to find source code for any of the demos on the pdftex web site. Thanks CHris Chris Hubert Department of Mechanical Engineering The Ohio State University 206 West 18th Avenue Columbus, OH 43210-1107 (614) 292-2356 (Office) (614) 292-3163 (Fax) hubert@rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu Common sense.... .... is not so common Voltaire From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Oct 8 01:38:01 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA16204 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 01:37:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA03607 for pdftex-list; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 03:10:22 -0400 Received: from ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr (ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.232.33]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA03604 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 03:10:21 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11638 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:10:12 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id JAA02104; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:12:57 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:12:57 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199810080712.JAA02104@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick [was: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh] In-Reply-To: <361B9382.190F7679@wxs.nl> References: <13849.55596.800000.224987@SRAHTZ> <13851.13578.967000.834567@SRAHTZ> <361B4671.77FFE50B@zgdv.de> <199810071204.OAA15892@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <13851.25342.612000.89647@SRAHTZ> <361B9382.190F7679@wxs.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk » Well, isn't that already the case with all those messy fonts? well, fonts are not _that_ messy;-) It is usual practice in tex's world to have various local libraries of fonts or macros, or PS routines. But tex's _engine_ is essentially unique. Sounds strange to me that pdftex's primitve could be active or not, depending on the compiler you used, the libraries you had, etc. Thierry Bouche, Grenoble. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Oct 8 01:46:56 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA16312 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 01:46:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA03659 for pdftex-list; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 03:17:47 -0400 Received: from mail.cs.uu.nl (sunset.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.32]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA03656 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 03:17:46 -0400 Received: from kemmel.cs.uu.nl (kemmel.cs.uu.nl 131.211.80.82) by mail.cs.uu.nl (VMailer) via SMTP id 2F722E23C5; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:17:43 +0200 (MET DST) From: Piet van Oostrum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13852.26391.462756.152547@kemmel.cs.uu.nl> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:17:43 +0200 (MDT) To: Chris Hubert Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Use of tpic In-Reply-To: <199810080311.XAA15831@rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu> References: <199810080311.XAA15831@rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.62 under Emacs 19.34.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Chris Hubert (CH) writes: CH> I was wondering if anyone could point me to a good guide for the use of CH> tpic specials and MetaPost code in pdftex. I see in the manuals that this CH> is possible, "using macros by Hans Hagan." However, I cannot figure out CH> how to do it on my own, nor have I been able to find source code for any of CH> the demos on the pdftex web site. You must have Hans' macro's installed, but I would guess most modern pdftex installations now have it included. In case you don't have them they are at CTAN in macros/pdftex/graphics (the supp-* files). Then you just use \includegraphics like for other graphics formats. Hans has written additional macros in the context package to transform tpic specials to Metapost code, but I don't know if this is usable in pdftex. -- Piet van Oostrum URL: http://www.cs.uu.nl/~piet [PGP] Private email: Piet.van.Oostrum@gironet.nl From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Oct 8 08:39:53 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA23813 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:39:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA04500 for pdftex-list; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:39:46 -0400 Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA04497 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:39:41 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.20.228]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA17F6; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:38:42 +0200 Message-ID: <361CCF66.271B794E@wxs.nl> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 15:42:46 +0100 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Piet van Oostrum CC: Chris Hubert , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Use of tpic References: <199810080311.XAA15831@rclsgi.eng.ohio-state.edu> <13852.26391.462756.152547@kemmel.cs.uu.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Piet van Oostrum wrote: > > >>>>> Chris Hubert (CH) writes: > > CH> I was wondering if anyone could point me to a good guide for the use of > CH> tpic specials and MetaPost code in pdftex. I see in the manuals that this > CH> is possible, "using macros by Hans Hagan." However, I cannot figure out > CH> how to do it on my own, nor have I been able to find source code for any of > CH> the demos on the pdftex web site. > > You must have Hans' macro's installed, but I would guess most > modern pdftex installations now have it included. In case you > don't have them they are at CTAN in macros/pdftex/graphics (the > supp-* files). > Then you just use \includegraphics like for other graphics > formats. > > Hans has written additional macros in the context package to > transform tpic specials to Metapost code, but I don't know if > this is usable in pdftex. The tpic converter is independent of context and actually not even used there, because I never have used tpic specials. I wrote the converter because Sebastian chalenged me. You need: supp-mps.tex % metapost inclusion supp-tpi.tex % tpic interpreter supp-spe.tex % special interpreter supp-pdf.tex % mp to pdf conversion supp-mis.tex % some aux macros (some simplified context system stuff) supp-tst.tex % tpic test file When set up ok, tpic specials are converted to metapost, which is run instantly, and converted to pdf, and overlayed with text if needed. Can you find these at CTAN? If not, I'll mail them. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Oct 8 08:44:41 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA23925 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:44:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA04507 for pdftex-list; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:40:07 -0400 Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA04504 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:40:04 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.20.228]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA70EE; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:38:31 +0200 Message-ID: <361CC9CB.6D319240@wxs.nl> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 15:18:51 +0100 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thierry Bouche CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick [was: pdftex versions, The Return Of Thanh] References: <13849.55596.800000.224987@SRAHTZ> <13851.13578.967000.834567@SRAHTZ> <361B4671.77FFE50B@zgdv.de> <199810071204.OAA15892@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <13851.25342.612000.89647@SRAHTZ> <361B9382.190F7679@wxs.nl> <199810080712.JAA02104@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id JAA04505 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Thierry Bouche wrote: > > » Well, isn't that already the case with all those messy fonts? > > well, fonts are not _that_ messy;-) > > It is usual practice in tex's world to have various local libraries of > fonts or macros, or PS routines. But tex's _engine_ is essentially > unique. Sounds strange to me that pdftex's primitve could be active or > not, depending on the compiler you used, the libraries you had, etc. You're right, the problem is not the engine, although it lacks some features concerning encodings, something that will be taken care of in future versions of tex, but the real problem is the enormous diversity in encodings/mappings/etc. In this respect, pdf is more secure than dvi, which has no knowledge of encodings at all. Sometimes strength can turn into weakness, especially when we consider non-texnical users. (What exactly do you mean with primitives and active?) Hans Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Oct 8 08:45:03 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA23928 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:44:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA04538 for pdftex-list; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:47:47 -0400 Received: from ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr (ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.232.33]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA04535 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:47:45 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07367 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:47:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id PAA19887; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:50:28 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:50:28 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199810081350.PAA19887@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick & (pdf)TeX's portability In-Reply-To: <361CC9CB.6D319240@wxs.nl> References: <13849.55596.800000.224987@SRAHTZ> <13851.13578.967000.834567@SRAHTZ> <361B4671.77FFE50B@zgdv.de> <199810071204.OAA15892@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <13851.25342.612000.89647@SRAHTZ> <361B9382.190F7679@wxs.nl> <199810080712.JAA02104@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <361CC9CB.6D319240@wxs.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > (What exactly do you mean with primitives and active?) ah, not exactly the usual tex meaning: if someone does compile pdftex somewhere without xpdf library, what happens with \pdfimage foo.pdf If there are versions of pdftex supporting Tiff, or inclusion of EPS through ImageMagick library calls, using something like your \pdfimagemagickimage foo.eps \preferedformat{vector} \downsize{72} \whatever what happens elsewhere? The driver part of pdftex needs to be handled through new primitives, i wonder what happens if we face an asynchronous development as what is currently discussed in this thread. That was my concern. Thierry Bouche. ----- thierry.bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr http://www-fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr/~bouche/pdfTeX From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Oct 9 02:37:04 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA17073 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 02:37:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA05865 for pdftex-list; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 03:40:22 -0400 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA05862 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 03:40:20 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.21.166]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA3F8A; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:39:40 +0200 Message-ID: <361DC6FF.84B43847@wxs.nl> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 09:19:11 +0100 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thierry Bouche CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick & (pdf)TeX's portability References: <13849.55596.800000.224987@SRAHTZ> <13851.13578.967000.834567@SRAHTZ> <361B4671.77FFE50B@zgdv.de> <199810071204.OAA15892@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <13851.25342.612000.89647@SRAHTZ> <361B9382.190F7679@wxs.nl> <199810080712.JAA02104@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <361CC9CB.6D319240@wxs.nl> <199810081350.PAA19887@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Thierry Bouche wrote: > > > (What exactly do you mean with primitives and active?) > > ah, not exactly the usual tex meaning: > > if someone does compile pdftex somewhere without xpdf library, what > happens with > > \pdfimage foo.pdf > > If there are versions of pdftex supporting Tiff, or inclusion of EPS > through ImageMagick library calls, using something like your > > \pdfimagemagickimage foo.eps \preferedformat{vector} \downsize{72} \whatever > > what happens elsewhere? \pdfimage filename width height downsize the rest can be done by macros. The prefered format can be determined independent from \pdfimage. > The driver part of pdftex needs to be handled through new primitives, > i wonder what happens if we face an asynchronous development as what > is currently discussed in this thread. That was my concern. We should indeed prevent such problems but as far as I've understood IG is widely available. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Oct 9 03:18:56 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA17742 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 03:18:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA06027 for pdftex-list; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 04:32:56 -0400 Received: from ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr (ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.232.33]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA06024 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 04:32:54 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA13655; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:32:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id KAA06143; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:35:37 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:35:37 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199810090835.KAA06143@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: Hans Hagen Cc: Thierry Bouche , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick & (pdf)TeX's portability In-Reply-To: <361DC6FF.84B43847@wxs.nl> References: <13849.55596.800000.224987@SRAHTZ> <13851.13578.967000.834567@SRAHTZ> <361B4671.77FFE50B@zgdv.de> <199810071204.OAA15892@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <13851.25342.612000.89647@SRAHTZ> <361B9382.190F7679@wxs.nl> <199810080712.JAA02104@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <361CC9CB.6D319240@wxs.nl> <199810081350.PAA19887@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <361DC6FF.84B43847@wxs.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk » We should indeed prevent such problems but as far as I've understood IG » is widely available. Probably. What i mean is either we consider it an essential part of next pdftex version, and further versions _require_ it, like zlib, libpng, libtiff, libjpeg & xpdf, or we don't include it. Are we the only 2 persons having something to say about that? Thierry Bouche, Grenoble. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Oct 9 03:25:21 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA17861 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 03:25:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA06110 for pdftex-list; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 04:47:39 -0400 Received: from isy.liu.se (root@isy.liu.se [130.236.48.10]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA06107 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 04:47:32 -0400 Received: from isy.liu.se (IDENT:svan@chrysoprase.isy.liu.se [130.236.51.82]) by isy.liu.se (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA04848; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:47:06 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199810090847.KAA04848@isy.liu.se> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 05/05/96 To: pdftex@tug.org cc: svan@isy.liu.se Subject: 'G' in bluesky cmmi8 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 10:47:06 +0200 From: Jonas Svanberg Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id EAA06108 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi! I recently compiled the web2c-7.2 package on Solaris 2.6. Using the bluesky type1 fonts I pdflatex:ed the following document: - - - documentclass[11pt,a4paper]{article} \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc} \usepackage[swedish]{babel} \pdfoutput=1 \begin{document} \begin{equation} R_G \end{equation} \end{document} - - - It views nice in acroread (linux), but the postscript output >From acroread fails on the subscript character 'G' (cmmi8.pfb). 'H' works fine! cmmi8.pfb in Bakoma-1.1 works fine but do however give .notdef warnings (and seem to lack the full latin1 charset?) I'm not sure this is a problem with bluesky/cmmi8.pfb or some kind of robustness problem in pdftex itself. Any comments? Regards, Jonas Svanberg Linköping University SWEDEN From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Oct 9 04:12:01 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA18603 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 04:11:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA06291 for pdftex-list; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 05:12:56 -0400 Received: from earth.ox.ac.uk (darwin.earth.ox.ac.uk [163.1.22.6]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA06285 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 05:12:41 -0400 Received: from metropolis.earth.ox.ac.uk (metropolis [163.1.22.59]) by earth.ox.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA28375; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:12:37 +0100 (BST) From: Keith Refson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13853.54148.671012.553374@metropolis> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:12:36 +0100 (BST) To: pdftex@tug.org Cc: Thierry Bouche Subject: Re: ImageMagick & (pdf)TeX's portability In-Reply-To: <199810090835.KAA06143@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> References: <13849.55596.800000.224987@SRAHTZ> <13851.13578.967000.834567@SRAHTZ> <361B4671.77FFE50B@zgdv.de> <199810071204.OAA15892@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <13851.25342.612000.89647@SRAHTZ> <361B9382.190F7679@wxs.nl> <199810080712.JAA02104@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <361CC9CB.6D319240@wxs.nl> <199810081350.PAA19887@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <361DC6FF.84B43847@wxs.nl> <199810090835.KAA06143@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> X-Mailer: VM 6.62 under Emacs 20.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Thierry Bouche writes: > Probably. What i mean is either we consider it an essential part of > next pdftex version, and further versions _require_ it, like zlib, > libpng, libtiff, libjpeg & xpdf, or we don't include it. > > Are we the only 2 persons having something to say about that? Not any more. I speak as someone who isn't a pdftex developer but has some useful knowledge about software engineering. This discussion seems to be veering in the dangerous direction of "creeping featurism". In particular I think including converters (*any* converter) directly into the code is a very bad idea. If more features, libraries etc. included, it will take the longer to get a "release: version, which will be larger, have more options, be less portable an less reliable and less stable or "future-proofed". This is particularly true of ghostscript. Remember after all that the gs interface *does* change from release to release in a way which has broken scripts in the past. Do we want to risk it breaking PDFTeX? Doing conversion externally would make it *much* easier to support any new image formats which come along -- including of course the supposedly rapidly mutating TIFF. It would also avoid most problems of licensing and allow the use of programs with licensing conditions incompatible with TeX's. My suggestion is that the intrinsic image inclusion formats be carefully selected to allow one to take advantage of all or most of the useful capabilities of PDF, but that little or no format conversion be performed. Conversion should be relegated to external programs which could be automatically invoked through macro packges such as ConTeXt and the graphics bundle. The kind of image formats which one might need to include are obviously PDF, jpeg, PNG and certain kinds of tiff. But if a new format only include capabilities which are already present then the presumption should be that the image should be converted. Encapsulated Postscript most certainly should not be! I think the discussion has already shown what a minefield *that* would be. ImageMagick is a wonderful tool and could be put to very good use as an *external* converter supported by the appropriate macro package. But other tools may be appropriate for other circumstances or other platforms. Even non-free, shareware or commercial ones could be called. And an installation shouldn't have to *rely* on the presence of Ghostscript. Remember after all that the gs interface *does* change from release to release in a way which has broken scripts in the past. Keith Refson -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Email: Keith.Refson@ | Tel: +44 1865 272026 | Dr Keith Refson, | earth.ox.ac.uk | Fax: +44 1865 272072 | Dept of Earth Sciences | Spam: root@cyberpromo.com | Parks Road, Oxford OX1 3PR, UK| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Oct 9 06:22:20 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA20710 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 06:22:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA06663 for pdftex-list; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 07:41:30 -0400 Received: from halifax.chebucto.ns.ca (halifax.chebucto.ns.ca [192.75.95.75]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA06660 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 07:41:29 -0400 Received: from aa056@localhost by halifax.chebucto.ns.ca id <33233-496> convert rfc822-to-8bit; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:41:22 -0300 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:41:21 -0300 (ADT) From: George White To: Thierry Bouche cc: Hans Hagen , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick & (pdf)TeX's portability In-Reply-To: <199810090835.KAA06143@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk First, I for one am very interested in this issue. ImageMagick packages zlib, libpng, libtiff, and libjpeg, so you still need them. Xpdf is a problem for those who don't have C++. In my view, most people should use a C++ compiler as a "better" C compiler, but in practice too many C programs don't compile with C++. I would guess that the set of people who can built ImageMagick is a superset of those who can build pdftex with the xpdf bits. A model for supporting graphics conversion is the "plug-in" mechanism used by Photoshop, gimp, etc. Pdftex should provide a primitive that passes a well-defined set of information to a "plug-in dispatcher". This dispatcher can use yet another config file to determine how to process the file into a form easily digestible to pdftex. There should be a "shortcut" to allow use of "pre-digested" files, and also a reasonably capable set of plugins in the base distribution. It would be a bonus if pdftex could support some existing plug-ins (e.g., Photoshop or Gimp). I'm not sure about how to deal with user interaction. Many plugins put up a panel to ask the user for settings -- pdftex needs to be able to run in batch mode, but does not need to prohibit interactive plugins. Gimp has a scripting interface (using siod) that might be adopted to allow batch-mode processing. -- George White Halifax, Nova Scotia On Fri, 9 Oct 1998, Thierry Bouche wrote: > » We should indeed prevent such problems but as far as I've understood IG > » is widely available. > > Probably. What i mean is either we consider it an essential part of > next pdftex version, and further versions _require_ it, like zlib, > libpng, libtiff, libjpeg & xpdf, or we don't include it. > > Are we the only 2 persons having something to say about that? > > Thierry Bouche, Grenoble. > From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Oct 9 07:32:27 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA22004 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 07:32:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA06768 for pdftex-list; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:14:57 -0400 Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA06765 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:14:55 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.21.232]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA615F; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:14:18 +0200 Message-ID: <361E0C39.E6DB0501@wxs.nl> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 14:14:33 +0100 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thierry Bouche CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick & (pdf)TeX's portability References: <13849.55596.800000.224987@SRAHTZ> <13851.13578.967000.834567@SRAHTZ> <361B4671.77FFE50B@zgdv.de> <199810071204.OAA15892@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <13851.25342.612000.89647@SRAHTZ> <361B9382.190F7679@wxs.nl> <199810080712.JAA02104@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <361CC9CB.6D319240@wxs.nl> <199810081350.PAA19887@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <361DC6FF.84B43847@wxs.nl> <199810090835.KAA06143@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id IAA06766 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Thierry Bouche wrote: > > » We should indeed prevent such problems but as far as I've understood IG > » is widely available. > > Probably. What i mean is either we consider it an essential part of > next pdftex version, and further versions _require_ it, like zlib, > libpng, libtiff, libjpeg & xpdf, or we don't include it. 100% agreed. Am I right in saying that image magic also uses those libraries. Furthermore, using only the libs mentioned, we can already do things like downsampling I guess. > Are we the only 2 persons having something to say about that? Sebastian is out of reach today, otherwise for sure he would reflect. > Thierry Bouche, Grenoble. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Oct 9 08:17:33 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA22831 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:17:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA06869 for pdftex-list; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:32:03 -0400 Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA06866 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:32:01 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.21.232]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA5131; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:31:50 +0200 Message-ID: <361E0E92.8E194AD6@wxs.nl> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 14:24:34 +0100 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Keith Refson CC: pdftex@tug.org, Thierry Bouche Subject: Re: ImageMagick & (pdf)TeX's portability References: <13849.55596.800000.224987@SRAHTZ> <13851.13578.967000.834567@SRAHTZ> <361B4671.77FFE50B@zgdv.de> <199810071204.OAA15892@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <13851.25342.612000.89647@SRAHTZ> <361B9382.190F7679@wxs.nl> <199810080712.JAA02104@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <361CC9CB.6D319240@wxs.nl> <199810081350.PAA19887@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <361DC6FF.84B43847@wxs.nl> <199810090835.KAA06143@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <13853.54148.671012.553374@metropolis> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Keith Refson wrote: > Not any more. I speak as someone who isn't a pdftex developer but has > ... > which one might need to include are obviously PDF, jpeg, PNG and > certain kinds of tiff. But if a new format only include capabilities Right, only the natural ones then. I don't use other formats anyway. But downsampling would be a wonderfull option. Will this be difficult to implement using the free currently used png/tif modules? Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Oct 9 08:37:00 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA23218 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:36:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA06980 for pdftex-list; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:09:56 -0400 Received: from mailhost.cyberramp.net (root@mailhost.cyberramp.net [207.158.64.11]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA06977 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:09:54 -0400 Received: from fuzzylog.simple.dallas.tx.us (dal-tsa1-29.cyberramp.net [207.158.82.29]) by mailhost.cyberramp.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1/ler-981006-1336) with ESMTP id IAA10287; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:09:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from scooby (scooby [192.168.1.3]) by fuzzylog.simple.dallas.tx.us (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA01994; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:09:52 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:09:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Bob Friesenhahn To: Hans Hagen cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick & (pdf)TeX's portability In-Reply-To: <361DC6FF.84B43847@wxs.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I'd like make folks on the list aware that I have forwarded our concerns with conversion of EPS to PDF loosing quality to the principle ImageMagick maintainer. He is interested in resolving this for EPS and other "vector" formats. It is planned that a vector-safe path will be added to ImageMagick such that if no image-oriented operations are requested, the conversion will take that path and there will be no apparent loss of quality. Support for this is expected in the next release of ImageMagick (not started yet to the best of my knowledge). Another item on the burner for ImageMagick is the ability to accept external encode/decode filter programs (described by a simple text file) so that as long as a program can be found which converts too and from a particular format, ImageMagick can be trained by the end-user to handle that format too. This particular feature is well on its way to completion. Bob ====================================== Bob Friesenhahn bfriesen@simple.dallas.tx.us http://www.cyberramp.net/~bfriesen From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Oct 9 10:12:31 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25436 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:12:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA07254 for pdftex-list; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:10:38 -0400 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA07251 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:10:36 -0400 Received: from wkaxp1.wkap.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SN-SMTP (PP) with ESMTP; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 16:10:06 +0200 Received: from PC709 (pc709.wkap.nl) by wkap.nl (PMDF V5.1-4 #29553) with ESMTP id <01J2RTYA9DYO001HHH@wkap.nl>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 16:11:22 +0100 Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 16:10:19 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time) From: Taco Hoekwater Subject: Re: ImageMagick & (pdf)TeX's portability In-reply-to: To: George White Cc: Thierry Bouche , Hans Hagen , pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <13854.6475.210000.599203@PC709> X-Mailer: VM 6.62 under Emacs 20.3.1 References: <199810090835.KAA06143@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "GW" == George White writes: GW> First, I for one am very interested in this issue. ImageMagick GW> packages zlib, libpng, libtiff, and libjpeg, so you still need GW> them. Xpdf is a problem for those who don't have C++. In my GW> view, most people should use a C++ compiler as a "better" C GW> compiler, but in practice too many C programs don't compile with GW> C++. It might be a good idea to convert the (relatively small) pieces of xpdf that are needed for pdftex into plain C. At least that would solve some of the current portability problems. I'm sorry I can't volunteer for this but I am really much overscheduled as it is. GW> I would guess that the set of people who can built ImageMagick is GW> a superset of those who can build pdftex with the xpdf bits. Just how generic is ImageMagick? Does it compile on hp-ux, msdos, os/2 and Macintoshes? Anybody who knows? GW> A model for supporting graphics conversion is the "plug-in" GW> mechanism used by Photoshop, gimp, etc. Pdftex should provide a GW> primitive that passes a well-defined set of information to a GW> "plug-in dispatcher". This dispatcher can use yet another config GW> file to determine how to process the file into a form easily GW> digestible to pdftex. There should be a "shortcut" to allow use GW> of "pre-digested" files, and also a reasonably capable set of GW> plugins in the base distribution. It would be a bonus if pdftex GW> could support some existing plug-ins (e.g., Photoshop or Gimp). This sounds nice, but neither of the two api's is even remotely portable. Besides, you'd need to insert a completely new interpreter into pdftex, which does not sound trivial. >> Probably. What i mean is either we consider it an essential part >> of next pdftex version, and further versions _require_ it, like >> zlib, libpng, libtiff, libjpeg & xpdf, or we don't include it. I tend to agree with this statement, since the error below does not really appeal to me: l. 77 Undefined plugin. <*> \pdfimageplugin ?H The plugin you asked for is not available on the current platform. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `bpm'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `Ibmp'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever figure you intended to insert. ? Besides, with png and jpeg for bitmaps I don't really need another bitmap format (tiff support would be practical, but not necessary). If we really need to add something else, I'd prefer full vector eps support. Greetings, Taco -- Taco Hoekwater taco.hoekwater@wkap.nl Kluwer Academic Publishers -- Pre Press -- Achterom 119, 3311 KB Dordrecht, The Netherlands tel. 31-78-6392550 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Oct 9 16:36:56 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03678 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 16:36:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA08091 for pdftex-list; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:54:54 -0400 Received: from vonneumann.cs.uakron.edu (vonneumann.cs.uakron.edu [130.101.201.10]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA08088 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:54:52 -0400 Received: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:54:52 -0400 from moses.cs.uakron.edu by vonneumann.cs.uakron.edu (SMI-8.6/Uakron/BJH(SMI-SVR4)) Received: by moses.cs.uakron.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA21920; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:54:52 -0400 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:54:52 -0400 From: adam@vonneumann.cs.uakron.edu (Adam Lewenberg) Message-Id: <199810092154.RAA21920@moses.cs.uakron.edu> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Problem compiling pdftex on X86 Solaris Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to compile pdftex on a Solaris X86 system. There are two problems that arise. 1. When I type 'make pdftex' in the web2c-7.2 directory as instructed, I get make: *** No rule to make target `pdftex'. Stop. 2. In light of 1, I tried 'make pdftex' in the web2c subdirectory and got all the way to compiling xpdf when I received the following: rm -f ./pdftexdir/xpdf-0.7a/xpdf/pdftoepdf.cc ./pdftexdir/xpdf-0.7a/xpdf/epdf.h cp ./pdftexdir/pdftoepdf.cc ./pdftexdir/xpdf-0.7a/xpdf cp ./pdftexdir/epdf.h ./pdftexdir/xpdf-0.7a/xpdf cd ./pdftexdir/xpdf-0.7a/xpdf && make `basename ./pdftexdir/xpdf-0.7a/xpdf/pdftoepdf.a` make[1]: Entering directory `/home/vonneumann/faculty/adam/pdftex/web2c-7.2/web2c/pdftexdir/xpdf-0.7a/xpdf' c++ -O2 -DHAVE_DIRENT_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_SELECT_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DHAVE_POPEN=1 -DHAVE_LIBXPM=1 -I../goo -I../ltk -I/home/vonneumann/faculty/adam/pdftex/texk/web2c/pdftexdir -I/home/vonneumann/faculty/adam/pdftex/texk/web2c/pdftexdir/zlib -I. -I/usr/openwin/include -c pdftoepdf.cc -o pdftoepdf.o In file included from epdf.h:6, from pdftoepdf.cc:19: image.h:1: libpng/png.h: No such file or directory image.h:2: jpg.h: No such file or directory make[1]: *** [pdftoepdf.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/vonneumann/faculty/adam/pdftex/web2c-7.2/web2c/pdftexdir/xpdf-0.7a/xpdf' make: *** [pdftexdir/xpdf-0.7a/xpdf/pdftoepdf.a] Error 2 Any ideas? Is there an X86 Solaris binary already compiled? Thanks, A. Lewenberg ahl@uakron.edu From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Oct 9 19:56:39 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA07344 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 19:56:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA08319 for pdftex-list; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 21:07:55 -0400 Received: from mailhost.cyberramp.net (root@mailhost.cyberramp.net [207.158.64.11]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA08316 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 21:07:54 -0400 Received: from fuzzylog.simple.dallas.tx.us (dal-tsa26-60.cyberramp.net [207.158.127.124]) by mailhost.cyberramp.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1/ler-981006-1336) with ESMTP id UAA17725; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 20:07:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from scooby (scooby [192.168.1.3]) by fuzzylog.simple.dallas.tx.us (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA02244; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 20:07:49 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 20:07:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Bob Friesenhahn To: Taco Hoekwater cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick & (pdf)TeX's portability In-Reply-To: <13854.6475.210000.599203@PC709> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 9 Oct 1998, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > GW> I would guess that the set of people who can built ImageMagick is > GW> a superset of those who can build pdftex with the xpdf bits. > > Just how generic is ImageMagick? Does it compile on hp-ux, msdos, os/2 > and Macintoshes? Anybody who knows? Yes. Well, maybe not MS-DOS. Pre-built binaries for an amazing number of different type of systems are available on the distribution site. Since graphics software makes very little use of operating system calls, it can be written quite portably. Check out ftp://ftp.wizards.dupont.com/pub/ImageMagick/binaries to see which pre-built binaries are available. Linux binaries are maintained seperately so you won't find them there. Bob ====================================== Bob Friesenhahn bfriesen@simple.dallas.tx.us http://www.cyberramp.net/~bfriesen From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sat Oct 10 08:07:25 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA19944 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 08:07:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA08743 for pdftex-list; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 09:17:55 -0400 Received: from alpha.netvision.net.il (alpha.netvision.net.il [194.90.1.13]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA08740 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 09:17:52 -0400 Received: from prime (ts053p6.tlv.netvision.net.il [199.203.203.206]) by alpha.netvision.net.il (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA32070 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 15:16:51 +0300 (IDT) From: "Ziv Caspi" To: Subject: Updated pdfTexinfo? Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 15:17:51 +0200 Message-ID: <01bdf450$62124f10$6f0000c0@prime> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Is there an update to pdfTexinfo.tex that can handle the latest documentation that comes with Emacs 20.3? TIA, Ziv Caspi From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sun Oct 11 12:54:13 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA19684 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 12:54:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA09768 for pdftex-list; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 10:44:56 -0400 Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.51]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA09765 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 10:44:54 -0400 Received: from infovore (root@infovore.xs4all.nl [194.109.13.254]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA19854 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 16:09:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: by infovore id m0zSJcC-000dWuC (Debian Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #2); Sun, 11 Oct 1998 13:24:44 +0200 (NST) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick & (pdf)TeX's portability References: <199810090835.KAA06143@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <13854.6475.210000.599203@PC709> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Olaf Weber Date: 11 Oct 1998 13:24:42 +0200 In-Reply-To: Taco Hoekwater's message of "Fri, 09 Oct 1998 16:10:19 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time)" Message-ID: <877ly7e3yd.fsf@infovore.xs4all.nl> Lines: 16 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Taco Hoekwater writes: > It might be a good idea to convert the (relatively small) pieces of > xpdf that are needed for pdftex into plain C. At least that would > solve some of the current portability problems. The xpdf sources do in fact look like they were converted from C to C++ some time in the past. > I'm sorry I can't volunteer for this but I am really much > overscheduled as it is. RIght now I'm not in a position to do it either. -- Olaf Weber From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sun Oct 11 14:12:23 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21017 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 14:12:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA10139 for pdftex-list; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 10:59:53 -0400 Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.51]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA10135 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 10:59:46 -0400 Received: from infovore (root@infovore.xs4all.nl [194.109.13.254]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA12560; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 16:58:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: by infovore id m0zSMry-000ckyC (Debian Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #2); Sun, 11 Oct 1998 16:53:14 +0200 (NST) To: popineau@ese-metz.fr Cc: te@informatik.uni-hannover.de, pdftex@tug.org, tetex-pretest@informatik.uni-hannover.de Subject: Re: array sizes References: <199810111319.PAA14204@esemetz.ese-metz.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Olaf Weber Date: 11 Oct 1998 16:53:12 +0200 In-Reply-To: Fabrice POPINEAU's message of "Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:19:52 +0200" Message-ID: <874stbduav.fsf@infovore.xs4all.nl> Lines: 23 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Fabrice POPINEAU writes: > I may be completely false, but from what I have insvestigated, it > seems that : > @d min_halfword==-@"FFFFFFF {smallest allowable value in a |halfword|} > redefines the 'null' value in the web code. That's true. > And there are places (at least one in pdftex.ch) where pointers are > compared to 0 instead of null : There may be several more: since the difference between null and 0 now matters for the generated code, it has now become necessary to do the right thing in the code. I suppose this means someone will have to revisit all the comparisions/assignments of 0 and null in pdftex.ch, and I _really_ hope there are no assignments of integers to tex's "pointers" or vice-versa without a proper conversion. -- Olaf Weber From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sun Oct 11 14:16:18 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21094 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 14:16:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA09645 for pdftex-list; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 09:27:17 -0400 Received: from regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de (root@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de [130.75.26.7]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA09642 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 09:27:11 -0400 Received: (from te@localhost) by regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id NAA17368; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 13:36:41 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 13:36:41 +0200 (MET DST) From: Thomas Esser Message-Id: <199810111136.NAA17368@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de> To: pdftex@tug.org Cc: Olaf Weber , Fabrice Popineau , tetex-pretest@informatik.uni-hannover.de Subject: array sizes Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, to avoid problems with some compilers (esp. HP's cc), Olaf Weber proposed the following patch (which will be included in web2c-7.3). I have adopted it for omega, but pdftex is still broken and does not work if this patch is applied. So, pdftex currently does not work with teTeX's latest beta as Fabrice Popineau just told me. I'd like to let you know about this and suggest that you find a patch to make this work again. Since the current teTeX beta and web2c are now out-of-sync regarding this array size patch, it would be helpful, I think to have a maintenance release of web2c to get a common basis for pdftex again. Thomas --- tex.ch- Sun Jul 26 13:55:04 1998 +++ tex.ch Sat Sep 19 15:13:52 1998 @@ -207,7 +207,7 @@ @= -@!mem_bot=@"8000000; {smallest index in the |mem| array dumped by \.{INITEX}; +@!mem_bot=0; {smallest index in the |mem| array dumped by \.{INITEX}; must not be less than |mem_min|} {Use |mem_bot=0| for compilers which cannot decrement pointers.} @!hash_offset=514; {smallest index in hash array, i.e., |hash_base| } @@ -994,7 +994,7 @@ @y 2407 @d min_quarterword=0 {smallest allowable value in a |quarterword|} @d max_quarterword=255 {largest allowable value in a |quarterword|} -@d min_halfword==0 {smallest allowable value in a |halfword|} +@d min_halfword==-@"FFFFFFF {smallest allowable value in a |halfword|} @d max_halfword==@"FFFFFFF {largest allowable value in a |halfword|} @z @@ -3492,7 +3492,6 @@ extra_mem_top := 0; extra_mem_bot := 0; @+Tini - if extra_mem_bot>mem_bot then extra_mem_bot:=mem_bot; if extra_mem_bot>sup_main_memory then extra_mem_bot:=sup_main_memory; if extra_mem_top>sup_main_memory then extra_mem_top:=sup_main_memory; mem_top := mem_bot + main_memory; From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sun Oct 11 14:23:46 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (root@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21241 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 14:23:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA09324 for pdftex-list; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 14:51:29 -0400 Received: from halifax.chebucto.ns.ca (halifax.chebucto.ns.ca [192.75.95.75]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA09321 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 14:51:28 -0400 Received: from aa056@localhost by halifax.chebucto.ns.ca id <33021-8597>; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 15:44:28 -0300 Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 15:44:28 -0300 (ADT) From: George White To: Bob Friesenhahn cc: Taco Hoekwater , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick & (pdf)TeX's portability In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 9 Oct 1998, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > On Fri, 9 Oct 1998, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > > GW> I would guess that the set of people who can built ImageMagick is > > GW> a superset of those who can build pdftex with the xpdf bits. > > > > Just how generic is ImageMagick? Does it compile on hp-ux, msdos, os/2 > > and Macintoshes? Anybody who knows? > > Yes. Well, maybe not MS-DOS. Pre-built binaries for an amazing number of > different type of systems are available on the distribution site. Since > graphics software makes very little use of operating system calls, it can be > written quite portably. ImageMagick supports both Imake and autoconf configuration. It includes stub X-windows headers for non-X systems. I have built the convert program for OS/2 using the Imake from XFree86 and emx gcc. This should run under (extended) DOS using rsx or emx, but I have not tested it and when I built it I was only interested in SGI and PNG so did not try to include TIFF and JPEG. I have also built the convert program on a NeXT (no X) using autoconf. -- George White Halifax, Nova Scotia From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Oct 14 10:56:55 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20393 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:56:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA17037 for pdftex-list; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:52:27 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA17034 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:52:25 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA21432 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 17:52:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA22743 for pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 17:52:19 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <199810141552.RAA22743@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: ImageMagick & (pdf)TeX's portability To: pdftex@tug.org (PDFTEX) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 17:52:19 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, this idea is certainly interesting and worth to think of. My opinion is I welcome everyone who wants to work on it, as the jpeg and tiff support. However at least at the moment I want to leave the tiff support as a separate modul for those who wants to have tiff support, and the same for the ImageMagick library if somebody wishes to do that. Things may change later, who knows, but at the moment I don't consider to do that. Thanh From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Oct 15 02:57:52 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA12750 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 02:57:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id EAA17954 for pdftex-list; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 04:20:46 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA17951 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 04:20:45 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id JAA27303; hop 0; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:13:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:19:21 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13861.807.573000.407006@SRAHTZ> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 21:01:43 +0100 ( `) To: aa056@chebucto.ns.ca Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick & (pdf)TeX's portability In-Reply-To: References: <199810090835.KAA06143@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk George White writes: > A model for supporting graphics conversion is the "plug-in" > mechanism used by Photoshop, gimp, etc. Pdftex should provide a > primitive that passes a well-defined set of information to a > "plug-in dispatcher". This dispatcher can use yet another config > file to determine how to process the file into a form easily > digestible to pdftex. There should be a "shortcut" to allow excellent notion! good project for someone to take on to enhance pdftex... sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Oct 15 11:12:42 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA26400 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:12:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA18753 for pdftex-list; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:29:57 -0400 Received: from mailman.campbellsci.com (mailman.campbellsci.com [207.201.118.3]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA18750 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:29:53 -0400 Received: from carl_zmola ([207.201.118.7]) by mailman.campbellsci.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with SMTP id AAA232; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:28:49 -0600 From: "Carl Zmola" To: Sebastian Rahtz Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:25:14 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: ImageMagick & (pdf)TeX's portability Reply-to: zmola@campbellsci.com CC: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <13861.807.573000.407006@SRAHTZ> References: Message-ID: <19981015162848914.AAA232@carl_zmola> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > George White writes: > > A model for supporting graphics conversion is the "plug-in" > > mechanism used by Photoshop, gimp, etc. Pdftex should provide a > > primitive that passes a well-defined set of information to a > > "plug-in dispatcher". This dispatcher can use yet another config > > file to determine how to process the file into a form easily > > digestible to pdftex. There should be a "shortcut" to allow > > excellent notion! good project for someone to take on to enhance > pdftex... What model would you use to allow this to work on different platforms? Can we just include a java virtual machine in pdftex and have the plugins be java :-) plugins should in general be binaries and machine independent. It seems way beyond the scope of pdftex, but if it did exist, it would make pdftex much more usable. Carl Carl zmola@campbellsci.com From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Oct 15 17:19:43 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA05978 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:19:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA19094 for pdftex-list; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:56:04 -0400 Received: from mailhost.cyberramp.net (root@mailhost.cyberramp.net [207.158.64.11]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA19091 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:56:02 -0400 Received: from fuzzylog.simple.dallas.tx.us (dal-tsa5-41.cyberramp.net [207.158.83.169]) by mailhost.cyberramp.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1/ler-981006-1336) with ESMTP id RAA21944 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:56:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from scooby (scooby [192.168.1.3]) by fuzzylog.simple.dallas.tx.us (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA04615 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:55:59 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:55:59 -0500 (CDT) From: Bob Friesenhahn To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick & (pdf)TeX's portability Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Regarding the plug-in capability described on this (pdftex) list, ImageMagick 4.1.3 just included this capability. It also includes vector-safe paths in some cases (PS->PDF at the moment). Other vector safe paths are being considered. Bob ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:49:42 -0400 (EDT) From: CRISTY To: magick@misfit.wizards.dupont.com Subject: ImageMagick 4.1.3 ImageMagick 4.1.3 is now ready for general use. The biggest change is the use of a delegates files suggested by (and initial design by) Bob Friesenhahn. You can now add your own delegates without having to compile them into the distribution. Note, the 4.1.3 NT distribution will not be available until late tonight. As an aside, does anyone have an example Microsoft version 4 BMP image? I want to upgrade BMP support withing ImageMagick to support this image type but cannot find any examples. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Oct 16 02:43:05 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA17012 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 02:43:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id EAA19698 for pdftex-list; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 04:11:23 -0400 Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA19695 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 04:11:21 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.20.105]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA5E19; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:11:11 +0200 Message-ID: <362703A7.61A3B5E4@wxs.nl> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:28:23 +0100 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: zmola@campbellsci.com CC: Sebastian Rahtz , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick & (pdf)TeX's portability References: <19981015162848914.AAA232@carl_zmola> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Carl Zmola wrote: > way beyond the scope of pdftex, but if it did exist, it would make > pdftex much more usable. Well, 'much more' is a bit overstated I guess, because many things can be donw with pdftex already. I would say that support of pdf 3 features will have more impact. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Oct 16 03:54:20 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA18360 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 03:54:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA20130 for pdftex-list; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 05:13:11 -0400 Received: from niger.ujf-grenoble.fr (niger.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.22]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA20127 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 05:13:09 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by niger.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13070; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:12:25 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id LAA08686; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:16:53 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:16:53 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199810160916.LAA08686@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: Hans Hagen Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick & (pdf)TeX's portability In-Reply-To: <362703A7.61A3B5E4@wxs.nl> References: <19981015162848914.AAA232@carl_zmola> <362703A7.61A3B5E4@wxs.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk » I would say that support of pdf 3 features » will have more impact. is there a preview of these features available somewhere? Thierry Bouche, Grenoble. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Oct 16 04:26:55 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA18967 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 04:26:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA20237 for pdftex-list; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 05:46:05 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA20234 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 05:46:03 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id KAA05081; hop 0; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:38:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:43:59 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13863.4619.699000.92499@SRAHTZ> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:29:47 +0100 ( `) To: Thierry.Bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr Cc: pragma@wxs.nl, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick & (pdf)TeX's portability In-Reply-To: <199810160916.LAA08686@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> References: <19981015162848914.AAA232@carl_zmola> <362703A7.61A3B5E4@wxs.nl> <199810160916.LAA08686@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Thierry Bouche writes: > ; I would say that support of pdf 3 features > ; will have more impact. > > is there a preview of these features available somewhere? > sadly not. though it turns out there are two separate Acrobat beta programs. one is for members of the Adobe Developers Association, one for mere mortals. Hans H and I are in the latter group, so we get the beta software, but little explanation. Are there are any ADA members on this list? sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Oct 16 07:00:43 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21672 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 07:00:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA20537 for pdftex-list; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 07:59:31 -0400 Received: from halifax.chebucto.ns.ca (halifax.chebucto.ns.ca [192.75.95.75]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA20534 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 07:59:29 -0400 Received: from aa056@localhost by halifax.chebucto.ns.ca id <35119-27686>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 08:59:40 -0300 Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 08:59:40 -0300 (ADT) From: George White Reply-To: George White To: Carl Zmola cc: Sebastian Rahtz , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick & (pdf)TeX's portability In-Reply-To: <19981015162848914.AAA232@carl_zmola> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Implementing plug-ins as separate binaries requires interprocess communications (IPC), which is system-dependent. There are a couple existing models: Adobe Photoshop (which has a documented plug-in API), and Gimp. I think Gimp uses popen and shared memory. A pipe is used to pass control information to the plug-in, including the parameters of the shared memory areas. Gimp has been ported to OS/2 using the emx tools, which provide an emulation of many POSIX capabilities for OS/2 and a more limited set of capabilities for (extended DOS). There are several POSIX subsystems for WinNT, mostly commercial. The idea of providing a Java interpreter is interesting, but unless there are other systems that can use the same Java plug-ins, it may be hard to get an adequate number of plug-ins to make the whole venture worthwhile. It is certainly tempting to try grafting Gimp plug-ins onto pdftex, a) to exploit existing plug-ins, b) there is a substantial user base with suitable OS's, c) Gimp provides a platform for testing and developing plug-ins, and d) one can expect POSIX support in future versions of Windows and Mac OS-X to improve. It would, however, be reasonable to provide a sort of dummy plug-in that could be built-in for systems that lack adequate facilities to support a plug-in mechanism using IPC. -- George White Halifax, Nova Scotia On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Carl Zmola wrote: > > George White writes: > > > A model for supporting graphics conversion is the "plug-in" > > > mechanism used by Photoshop, gimp, etc. Pdftex should provide a > > > primitive that passes a well-defined set of information to a > > > "plug-in dispatcher". This dispatcher can use yet another config > > > file to determine how to process the file into a form easily > > > digestible to pdftex. There should be a "shortcut" to allow > > > > excellent notion! good project for someone to take on to enhance > > pdftex... > > What model would you use to allow this to work on different platforms? > Can we just include a java virtual machine in pdftex and have the > plugins be java :-) > > plugins should in general be binaries and machine independent. It seems > way beyond the scope of pdftex, but if it did exist, it would make > pdftex much more usable. > > Carl > > Carl > zmola@campbellsci.com > From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Oct 16 11:04:18 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA28296 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:04:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA20948 for pdftex-list; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:22:20 -0400 Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA20945 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:22:18 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.21.134]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA24AF; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:21:42 +0200 Message-ID: <36277EAB.4559FC3A@wxs.nl> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:13:15 +0100 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: George White CC: Carl Zmola , Sebastian Rahtz , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick & (pdf)TeX's portability References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk George White wrote: > The idea of providing a Java interpreter is interesting, but unless > there are other systems that can use the same Java plug-ins, it may > be hard to get an adequate number of plug-ins to make the whole venture > worthwhile. Defining a suitable interface to tex and vise versa is not trivial, given the often asynchronous behavior of the tex engine. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Oct 16 12:15:13 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA01162 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:14:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA21150 for pdftex-list; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:48:45 -0400 Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA21147 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:48:43 -0400 Received: from fell.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (MMTA v2.2) with ESMTP; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:48:25 +0100 Received: (from car2@localhost) by fell.open.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.6.12) id SAA05819; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:48:20 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Rowley MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:48:19 +0100 (BST) To: Hans Hagen Cc: George White , Carl Zmola , Sebastian Rahtz , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick & (pdf)TeX's portability In-Reply-To: <36277EAB.4559FC3A@wxs.nl> References: <36277EAB.4559FC3A@wxs.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.44 under Emacs 19.34.1 Message-ID: <13863.33980.210697.433918@fell.open.ac.uk> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hans Hagen wrote -- > George White wrote: > > > The idea of providing a Java interpreter is interesting, but unless > > there are other systems that can use the same Java plug-ins, it may > > be hard to get an adequate number of plug-ins to make the whole venture > > worthwhile. > > Defining a suitable interface to tex and vise versa is not trivial, > given the often asynchronous behavior of the tex engine. > I do no think that this particular aspect of tex would be a problem in providing such an interface (but there may be many other). It would of course be a problem if one then tried to plug-in some code that interfered too much with TeX's typesetting activities, especially pagination. But I would suggest that the interface to any plug-in will need to be very carefully specified so that there is absolutely no interaction with TeX's typesetting data-structures. chris From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Oct 16 12:18:45 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA01297 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:18:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA21129 for pdftex-list; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:43:45 -0400 Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA21126 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:43:42 -0400 Received: from fell.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (MMTA v2.2) with ESMTP; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:43:30 +0100 Received: (from car2@localhost) by fell.open.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.6.12) id SAA05814; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:43:27 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Rowley MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:43:26 +0100 (BST) To: Sebastian Rahtz Cc: Thierry.Bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr, pragma@wxs.nl, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick & (pdf)TeX's portability In-Reply-To: <13863.4619.699000.92499@SRAHTZ> References: <19981015162848914.AAA232@carl_zmola> <362703A7.61A3B5E4@wxs.nl> <199810160916.LAA08686@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <13863.4619.699000.92499@SRAHTZ> X-Mailer: VM 6.44 under Emacs 19.34.1 Message-ID: <13863.34097.506620.887017@fell.open.ac.uk> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Sebastian wrote -- > Thierry Bouche writes: > > ; I would say that support of pdf 3 features > > ; will have more impact. > > > > is there a preview of these features available somewhere? > > > sadly not. though it turns out there are two separate Acrobat beta > programs. one is for members of the Adobe Developers Association, one > for mere mortals. Hans H and I are in the latter group, so we get the > beta software, but little explanation. > Are there are any ADA members on this list? Or even an Adobe employee who can provide such material...hallo there! Otherwise Sebastian or Hans will have to summarise what they have discovered so far: we definitely need this info asap. chris From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Oct 16 23:13:09 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA19184 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 23:13:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA21897 for pdftex-list; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 00:52:54 -0400 Received: from mailhost.cyberramp.net (root@mailhost.cyberramp.net [207.158.64.11]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA21894 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 00:52:53 -0400 Received: from fuzzylog.simple.dallas.tx.us (dal-tsa3-52.cyberramp.net [207.158.87.52]) by mailhost.cyberramp.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1/ler-981006-1336) with ESMTP id XAA25927; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 23:52:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from scooby (scooby [192.168.1.3]) by fuzzylog.simple.dallas.tx.us (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA05261; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 23:52:48 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 23:52:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Bob Friesenhahn To: George White cc: Carl Zmola , Sebastian Rahtz , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick & (pdf)TeX's portability In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 16 Oct 1998, George White wrote: > It is certainly tempting to try grafting Gimp plug-ins onto pdftex, > a) to exploit existing plug-ins, b) there is a substantial user base > with suitable OS's, c) Gimp provides a platform for testing and > developing plug-ins, and d) one can expect POSIX support in future > versions of Windows and Mac OS-X to improve. If you take a look at the Gimp plug-in model you will see that it is hopelessly tied to Gimp. It uses call-backs into the Gimp. It also expects the plug-in to display option menus using the Gtk library. The only effective way to accomplish using Gimp plug-ins is to link pdftex with the Gimp. Bob ====================================== Bob Friesenhahn bfriesen@simple.dallas.tx.us http://www.cyberramp.net/~bfriesen From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sat Oct 17 07:51:23 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28784 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 07:51:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA22481 for pdftex-list; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 09:21:24 -0400 Received: from niger.ujf-grenoble.fr (niger.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.22]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA22478 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 09:21:22 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by niger.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22514 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 15:20:47 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id PAA01750; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 15:25:27 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 15:25:27 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199810171325.PAA01750@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: PDFTeX Mailing List Subject: small caps & hyperlinks X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi again, just an idea: could it be feasible to have an option in hyperref or any other hyper-capable package, that typesets the annotated text in small caps (instead ouf boxed or coloured)? That may sound weird to you, but i strongly believe that small caps have had that function for years in the french typographic tradition. For instance, in a scientific paper, proper nouns cited in the bibliography were typeset in small caps but not other ones. Small caps were _never_ used as low-level-gray alternatives to caps (which seems to be current american practice, as a consequence to overacronymy...) but as marker, or labels inside the text, obvious to the eye, without disturbing the greyness of pages. This _may_ be time to reinforce them into that use? Thierry Bouche. ----- thierry.bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr http://www-fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr/~bouche/pdfTeX From owner-pdftex@tug.org Sat Oct 17 07:57:39 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28903 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 07:57:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA22433 for pdftex-list; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 09:08:34 -0400 Received: from niger.ujf-grenoble.fr (niger.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.22]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA22430 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 09:08:31 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by niger.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22491 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 15:07:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id PAA01715; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 15:12:36 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 15:12:36 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199810171312.PAA01715@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: PDFTeX Mailing List Subject: random numbers in TeX X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, is there a way to get random numbers in TeX? I'm typesetting a page where lines should be randomly inclined (within reasonnable bounds). I currently achieve that with direct call to PS' rand, but that could'nt work with pdftex... I imagine i could have random numbers at compile time by calling external programs via \write16 (rand + gs, mp or mf...), but is it possible to produce random documents (using javascript, e.g.)? ThB From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Oct 19 01:38:14 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA12791 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:38:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id CAA24215 for pdftex-list; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 02:49:49 -0400 Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA24212 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 02:49:47 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.21.55]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAADDF; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 08:49:45 +0200 Message-ID: <362A6CA0.EA47D92B@wxs.nl> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 23:33:05 +0100 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Rowley CC: Sebastian Rahtz , Thierry.Bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr, pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick & (pdf)TeX's portability References: <19981015162848914.AAA232@carl_zmola> <362703A7.61A3B5E4@wxs.nl> <199810160916.LAA08686@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <13863.4619.699000.92499@SRAHTZ> <13863.34097.506620.887017@fell.open.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Chris Rowley wrote: > > Sebastian wrote -- > > > Thierry Bouche writes: > > > ; I would say that support of pdf 3 features > > > ; will have more impact. > > > > > > is there a preview of these features available somewhere? > > > > > sadly not. though it turns out there are two separate Acrobat beta > > programs. one is for members of the Adobe Developers Association, one > > for mere mortals. Hans H and I are in the latter group, so we get the > > beta software, but little explanation. > > > Are there are any ADA members on this list? > > Or even an Adobe employee who can provide such material...hallo there! > > Otherwise Sebastian or Hans will have to summarise what they have > discovered so far: we definitely need this info asap. Well, Sebastian R and I are not entitled to discuss alpha/beta features, due to the testers-agreement. I think I can safely say that the next release of Acrobat will integrate more smoothly into the internet, which is good news. There are some extensions to existing features, but not that dramatically new. Keep in mind that with pdftex we have already far more control than the average program! But we do need some more 'low level' access from within pdftex. When I find myself some free time and have deduced some specs, I'll work out the details. I think there will be a few new interesting features, but these are not that related to tex, i.e. once the file is generated, tex has done the job. Consider for instance the currently present (limited) options to influence the typography of fields, once filled in by the user. This viewtime feature (and similar ones) only make sense when pdftex/metapost are plug ins, and that's something not trivial! Concerning ADA, I was a member just after pdf saw the daylight (yes, tex was in the scene quite early), but because I had to find out/decode all the specs myself anyway, I saw no reason for paying that many dollars for missing-info and/or info that will be available a few month later for free. Of course, being a member could keep the (pdf)tex world on the frontier of developments, but we're not that bad off anyway, Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Oct 19 01:50:16 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA12977 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:50:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id CAA24219 for pdftex-list; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 02:49:52 -0400 Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA24216 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 02:49:50 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.21.55]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA71E6; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 08:49:32 +0200 Message-ID: <3629F176.D1A7A972@wxs.nl> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 14:47:34 +0100 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thierry Bouche CC: PDFTeX Mailing List Subject: Re: random numbers in TeX References: <199810171312.PAA01715@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Thierry Bouche wrote: > I imagine i could have random numbers at compile time by calling > external programs via \write16 (rand + gs, mp or mf...), but is it > possible to produce random documents (using javascript, e.g.)? Search for: % RANDOM.TEX v.1 (Donald Arseneau) % Generating "random" numbers in TeX. Works ok. I can mail it if needed. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Oct 19 03:37:24 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA14962 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 03:37:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id EAA24755 for pdftex-list; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 04:59:42 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA24752 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 04:59:40 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id JAA21707; hop 0; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:52:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:58:10 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13866.63917.48000.458925@SRAHTZ> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:34:53 +0100 ( `) To: Thierry.Bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: small caps & hyperlinks In-Reply-To: <199810171325.PAA01750@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> References: <199810171325.PAA01750@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Thierry Bouche writes: > just an idea: could it be feasible to have an option in hyperref or > any other hyper-capable package, that typesets the annotated text in > small caps (instead ouf boxed or coloured)? > i could generalize it, yes, to allow color or smallcaps or underlined. good idea. Sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Mon Oct 19 03:43:34 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA15053 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 03:43:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id EAA24747 for pdftex-list; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 04:58:55 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA24744 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 04:58:52 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id JAA21668; hop 0; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:51:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:57:13 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13866.63374.568000.210277@SRAHTZ> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:25:50 +0100 ( `) To: C.A.Rowley@open.ac.uk Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick & (pdf)TeX's portability In-Reply-To: <13863.34097.506620.887017@fell.open.ac.uk> References: <19981015162848914.AAA232@carl_zmola> <362703A7.61A3B5E4@wxs.nl> <199810160916.LAA08686@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> <13863.4619.699000.92499@SRAHTZ> <13863.34097.506620.887017@fell.open.ac.uk> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Chris Rowley writes: > > Or even an Adobe employee who can provide such material...hallo there! > there are not @adobe people on the list at present > Otherwise Sebastian or Hans will have to summarise what they have > discovered so far: we definitely need this info asap. > we have a hint that `structure' can be stored in the file format :-} I do know how to specify logical page numbering, by some reverse engineering, but that does not mean any changes to pdfTeX, I think, its just work done in the macro packages sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Oct 20 03:30:51 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA17033 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 03:30:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id EAA01663 for pdftex-list; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 04:46:54 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA01660 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 04:46:52 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id JAA23134; hop 0; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 09:39:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 09:44:57 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13867.44994.594000.997060@SRAHTZ> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 22:31:46 +0100 ( `) To: Thierry.Bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: small caps & hyperlinks In-Reply-To: <199810171325.PAA01750@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> References: <199810171325.PAA01750@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Thierry Bouche writes: > Hi again, > > just an idea: could it be feasible to have an option in hyperref or > any other hyper-capable package, that typesets the annotated text in > small caps (instead ouf boxed or coloured)? > i have added a new option "frenchlinks", that does what you want (I'll send to Thierry for testing), but, in general, hyperref users can redefine the following two macros to achieve funny results: \def\hy@colorlink#1{\begingroup\color{#1}}% \def\hy@endcolorlink{\endgroup}% Sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Oct 20 05:29:00 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA18988 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 05:28:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA01874 for pdftex-list; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 06:50:16 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA01871 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 06:50:14 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04972 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:50:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA06206 for pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:50:01 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <199810201050.MAA06206@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: TrueType fonts again To: pdftex@tug.org (PDFTEX) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:50:01 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am doing some changing with TTF handling in pdftex. If someone has any comment on this topic, please don't hesitate to post it. Thanh From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Oct 20 17:53:52 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA08180 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:53:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA02923 for pdftex-list; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 19:26:58 -0400 Received: from whirlwind.netspace.net.au (whirlwind.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.70]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA02920 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 19:26:55 -0400 Received: from zed (mail@dialup-t1-249.Melbourne.netspace.net.au [210.15.250.249]) by whirlwind.netspace.net.au (8.9.1/NS) with ESMTP id JAA03174 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:25:31 +1000 (EST) Received: from gtod by zed with local (Exim 1.92 #1 (Debian)) id 0zVlQb-0000DE-00; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:43:01 +1000 Subject: Re: TrueType fonts again In-Reply-To: <199810201050.MAA06206@anxur.fi.muni.cz> from Han The Thanh at "Oct 20, 98 12:50:01 pm" To: pdftex@tug.org Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:43:01 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: From: Gregory Tod Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Thanh: > I am doing some changing with TTF handling in pdftex. If someone has any > comment on this topic, please don't hesitate to post it. Are you aware of the freetype library? http://www.freetype.org Anybody working with C and TTF files should check it out. -- Gregory Tod gtod@netspace.net.au From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Oct 21 08:12:07 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA26641 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 08:12:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA05112 for pdftex-list; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:30:36 -0400 Received: from mail.cs.uu.nl (sunset.cs.uu.nl [131.211.80.32]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA05109 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:30:30 -0400 Received: from kemmel.cs.uu.nl (kemmel.cs.uu.nl 131.211.80.82) by mail.cs.uu.nl (VMailer) via SMTP id 2F724813F4; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:30:27 +0200 (MET DST) From: Piet van Oostrum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13869.57842.986377.316223@kemmel.cs.uu.nl> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:30:26 +0200 (MDT) To: Hans Hagen Cc: pdftex Subject: Re: funny anti alias side effect In-Reply-To: <362D1141.6F9BB18A@wxs.nl> References: <362D1141.6F9BB18A@wxs.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.62 under Emacs 19.34.2 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Hans Hagen (HH) writes: HH> Hi, HH> Did anyone notice that when anti aliasing is turned on, glyphs get a HH> slightly different background far larger than the glyph itself? On a HH> white background for instance we get gray. Because I frequently use HH> backgrounds, this is remarkable visible on tft lcd screens, seen under HH> an angle. Isn't this what anti-aliasing means? It replaces sharp skewed black/white edges by gradual gray edges. In colors I suppose it would mix the color of the letters with the background color. -- Piet van Oostrum URL: http://www.cs.uu.nl/~piet [PGP] Private email: Piet.van.Oostrum@gironet.nl From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Oct 21 08:48:09 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27623 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 08:48:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA05274 for pdftex-list; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:16:03 -0400 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA05271 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:16:01 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.20.115]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA7032; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:15:55 +0200 Message-ID: <362DC3CB.7C88B48@wxs.nl> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:21:47 +0100 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thierry Bouche Subject: Re: font copyright References: <362D2028.EB2B40CF@wxs.nl> <199810210933.LAA21048@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id KAA05272 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Thierry Bouche wrote: > > Concernant « font copyright », Hans Hagen écrit : « > » I wonder if it makes sense to let pdftex report when, while subsetting, > » all glyphs in a font are included (100%). Some font vendors don't > » permits distribution of complete fonts, an dat least that way we are > » warned. > > Hmmm, i undersdtand some font suppliers insist that you embed fonts > with Always EMbed, MaxSubSpect 99 _but_ does this mean they forbid > that you use wholly what you bought? Indeed. Long ago, on a different list there were lots of discussions on this. It has to do with the fact that you can copy the font out of the file, and thereby get yourself a valid copy. I cannot imagine anybody doing this, but there are some legal points. > If the document _requires_ the whole glyph set (well, except for font > tables, i know none such), what happens? I can't imagine a font > supplier that stupid! Well, tex never uses the space character. if it was a serious problem, pdftex could just embed two fonts: one with n-1 glyphs, the other with 1 character. BTW, I wonder if the 'common user' knows how many glyphs are in his/hers fonts. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Oct 21 13:08:28 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA05600 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:08:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA06364 for pdftex-list; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:31:54 -0400 Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA06361 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:31:49 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.21.77]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA45B3; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:31:13 +0200 Message-ID: <362DFE97.D8E8F2AF@wxs.nl> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:32:39 +0100 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Piet van Oostrum CC: pdftex Subject: Re: funny anti alias side effect References: <362D1141.6F9BB18A@wxs.nl> <13869.57842.986377.316223@kemmel.cs.uu.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Piet van Oostrum wrote: > >>>>> Hans Hagen (HH) writes: > > HH> Hi, > HH> Did anyone notice that when anti aliasing is turned on, glyphs get a > HH> slightly different background far larger than the glyph itself? On a > HH> white background for instance we get gray. Because I frequently use > HH> backgrounds, this is remarkable visible on tft lcd screens, seen under > HH> an angle. > > Isn't this what anti-aliasing means? It replaces sharp skewed > black/white edges by gradual gray edges. > > In colors I suppose it would mix the color of the letters with > the background color. The area is quite large, much too large! about two/three times the character width/height. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Oct 21 01:20:00 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA18261 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 01:19:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id CAA03300 for pdftex-list; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 02:57:45 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA03297 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 02:57:43 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (0@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA00970; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 08:57:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA12080; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 08:29:57 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <199810210629.IAA12080@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: TrueType fonts again In-Reply-To: from Gregory Tod at "Oct 21, 98 09:43:01 am" To: gtod@netspace.net.au (Gregory Tod) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 08:29:57 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org (PDFTEX) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > > I am doing some changing with TTF handling in pdftex. If someone has any > > comment on this topic, please don't hesitate to post it. > > Are you aware of the freetype library? http://www.freetype.org > > Anybody working with C and TTF files should check it out. yes I am. At least I have changed the pdftex mac glyph names to the freetype' ones. Thanh From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Oct 21 01:32:04 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA18457 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 01:32:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id DAA03372 for pdftex-list; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 03:11:43 -0400 Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA03369 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 03:11:42 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.20.15]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA3FBA; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:11:39 +0200 Message-ID: <362D1141.6F9BB18A@wxs.nl> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 23:40:01 +0100 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdftex Subject: funny anti alias side effect Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Did anyone notice that when anti aliasing is turned on, glyphs get a slightly different background far larger than the glyph itself? On a white background for instance we get gray. Because I frequently use backgrounds, this is remarkable visible on tft lcd screens, seen under an angle. Wanna see it? Just inlude a bitmap font, turn on smoothing in the prefs, and enlarge to the max. I've reported this strange 'feature' to adobe several times, but the fact that it remains a 'feature' gives me the impression that either nobody notices or this is part of anti aliasing technology. So far for true color. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Oct 21 01:32:57 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA18483 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 01:32:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id DAA03380 for pdftex-list; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 03:11:50 -0400 Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA03377 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 03:11:48 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.20.15]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA68C1; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:11:45 +0200 Message-ID: <362D2028.EB2B40CF@wxs.nl> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 00:43:37 +0100 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Han the Thanh , pdftex Subject: font copyright Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk I wonder if it makes sense to let pdftex report when, while subsetting, all glyphs in a font are included (100%). Some font vendors don't permits distribution of complete fonts, an dat least that way we are warned. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Oct 21 02:31:45 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA19818 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 02:31:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id EAA03817 for pdftex-list; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 04:00:01 -0400 Received: from send1e.yahoomail.com (send1e.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.64]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id DAA03814 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 03:59:59 -0400 Message-ID: <19981021075651.28934.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> Received: from [195.115.7.2] by send1e; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 00:56:51 PDT Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 00:56:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Christophe Labouisse Reply-To: labouiss@club-internet.fr Subject: Re: font copyright To: Hans Hagen , Han the Thanh , pdftex MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk ---Hans Hagen wrote: > > I wonder if it makes sense to let pdftex report when, while subsetting, > all glyphs in a font are included (100%). Some font vendors don't > permits distribution of complete fonts, an dat least that way we are > warned. Ok but with an option to enable or disable it. The best thing to do should be to use the map files to know if a font is allowed to be distributed, without subsetting, with subsetting of not allowed at all. Christophe I'm not sure to be allowed to post to the pdftex-list from here. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Oct 21 03:54:40 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA21420 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 03:54:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA04087 for pdftex-list; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 05:15:47 -0400 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id FAA04084 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 05:15:44 -0400 Received: from wkaxp1.wkap.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SN-SMTP (PP) with ESMTP; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:15:41 +0200 Received: from PC709 (pc709.wkap.nl) by wkap.nl (PMDF V5.1-4 #29553) with ESMTP id <01J38B6LF8XS001ZXQ@wkap.nl> for pdftex@tug.org; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:17:06 +0100 Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:16:01 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time) From: Taco Hoekwater Subject: Re: font copyright In-reply-to: <362D2028.EB2B40CF@wxs.nl> To: pdftex Message-id: <13869.42577.320000.501668@PC709> X-Mailer: VM 6.62 under Emacs 20.3.1 References: <362D2028.EB2B40CF@wxs.nl> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "HH" == Hans Hagen writes: HH> I wonder if it makes sense to let pdftex report when, while HH> subsetting, all glyphs in a font are included (100%). Some font HH> vendors don't permits distribution of complete fonts, an dat HH> least that way we are warned. Or pdftex could give a percentage of the glyps used instead of/together with the byte sizes? Some vendors require subsets to be below a specific percentage (which is not always 99%). Taco -- Taco Hoekwater taco.hoekwater@wkap.nl Kluwer Academic Publishers -- Pre Press -- Achterom 119, 3311 KB Dordrecht, The Netherlands tel. 31-78-6392550 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Oct 21 04:00:14 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA21551 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 04:00:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA04104 for pdftex-list; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 05:19:58 -0400 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA04100 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 05:19:46 -0400 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@SnowWhite.inet.cz [194.196.192.9]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA22845; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:14:01 +0100 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA01681; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:17:17 +0200 To: Han The Thanh CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: TrueType fonts again References: <199810210629.IAA12080@anxur.fi.muni.cz> X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.125 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicited e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicited e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 21 Oct 1998 11:17:12 +0200 In-Reply-To: Han The Thanh's message of Wed, 21 Oct 1998 08:29:57 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: Lines: 23 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: Han The Thanh Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 08:29:57 +0200 (MET DST) Hi, > > Anybody working with C and TTF files should check it out. but freetype is rasterizer library, we do not need rasterizer because PDF supports True Type directly. > yes I am. At least I have changed the pdftex mac glyph names to the freetype' > ones. Ok, but the question is if freetype's glyph names are the correct ones... I have two specs of True Type (Apple and M$) and the definition of Mac Glyph Names in M$ one is different from freetype's... I think that pdftex should rely on specs not on some other program. (BTW - Werner Lemberg told me that his array (used in e.g. ttf2pk from freetype's contrib) of mac glyph names is not from specs, but it is "it works for me it's ok..."). -- Pavel Janík ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Oct 21 04:08:13 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA21699 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 04:08:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA04144 for pdftex-list; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 05:28:43 -0400 Received: from ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr (ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.232.33]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA04140 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 05:28:41 -0400 Received: from mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by ujf.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA12545; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:28:37 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bouche@localhost) by mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.7.6/8.6.9) id LAA21048; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:33:15 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:33:15 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199810210933.LAA21048@mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr> From: Thierry Bouche To: Hans Hagen Cc: Han the Thanh , pdftex Subject: Re: font copyright In-Reply-To: <362D2028.EB2B40CF@wxs.nl> References: <362D2028.EB2B40CF@wxs.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Concernant « font copyright », Hans Hagen écrit : « » I wonder if it makes sense to let pdftex report when, while subsetting, » all glyphs in a font are included (100%). Some font vendors don't » permits distribution of complete fonts, an dat least that way we are » warned. Hmmm, i undersdtand some font suppliers insist that you embed fonts with Always EMbed, MaxSubSpect 99 _but_ does this mean they forbid that you use wholly what you bought? If the document _requires_ the whole glyph set (well, except for font tables, i know none such), what happens? I can't imagine a font supplier that stupid! Thierry Bouche, Grenoble. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Oct 21 04:40:10 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA22274 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 04:40:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA04466 for pdftex-list; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 06:07:15 -0400 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA04462 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 06:07:13 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.21.230]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA68BA; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:06:38 +0200 Message-ID: <362DADCC.81818A7E@wxs.nl> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:47:56 +0100 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: labouiss@club-internet.fr CC: Han the Thanh , pdftex Subject: Re: font copyright References: <19981021075651.28934.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Christophe Labouisse wrote: > > ---Hans Hagen wrote: > > > > I wonder if it makes sense to let pdftex report when, while > subsetting, > > all glyphs in a font are included (100%). Some font vendors don't > > permits distribution of complete fonts, an dat least that way we are > > warned. > > Ok but with an option to enable or disable it. The best thing to do > should be to use the map files to know if a font is allowed to be > distributed, without subsetting, with subsetting of not allowed at all. Reporting does not harm the process, and other 'warnings' are not supressable too. Anyhow, it makes sense to think to warnings/errors in general, should they go to the log file, the console, etc. Currently it's a bit fuzzy. Concerning the map file, I think it's time to think of a decent, consistent, ribust, extensible map file format. Things are growing out of hand. (I'm not even sure if the pdftex map one i scompatible with the dvips one.) There should be a decent, program independant map file format, probably something xml syntax based. This was discussed some time ago. Hans Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Oct 21 05:11:30 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA22857 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 05:11:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA04681 for pdftex-list; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 06:32:46 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA04678 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 06:32:44 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25856; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:32:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA27913; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:32:34 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <199810211032.MAA27913@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: TrueType fonts again In-Reply-To: from "Pavel Janik ml." at "Oct 21, 98 11:17:12 am" To: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:32:34 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org (PDFTEX) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Ok, but the question is if freetype's glyph names are the correct > ones... I have two specs of True Type (Apple and M$) and the > definition of Mac Glyph Names in M$ one is different from > freetype's... I think that pdftex should rely on specs not on some > other program. (BTW - Werner Lemberg told me that his > array (used in e.g. ttf2pk from freetype's contrib) of mac glyph names > is not from specs, but it is "it works for me it's ok..."). it's hard to say what is better. The fact is Apple and M$ definition of Mac Glyph names is rather strange (ie `mu1', `Ohm' :-(). Anyway these names are only convention, nothing is present explicitly in the font. So if one has decided to call ie #218 glyph as `macron' or `overscore', he/she has to follow this convention later. The reason why I have decided to follow freetype' convention is because it's more closed to use with TeX and Type1 font, where glyph names are *important*, and the frretype' convention allows using the existing *.enc files. M$ doesn't seem to care about that too much, so why to follow a convetion that doens't seem to be used at all and so nobody takes care about its problems? Thanh From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Oct 22 01:26:19 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22452 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 01:26:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id CAA07148 for pdftex-list; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 02:48:47 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA07145 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 02:48:45 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11962; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:48:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA00617; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:48:42 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <199810220648.IAA00617@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: 0.12p In-Reply-To: from Fabrice POPINEAU at "Oct 22, 98 08:23:34 am" To: popineau@ese-metz.fr (Fabrice POPINEAU) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:48:42 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: pdftex@tug.org (PDFTEX) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > It seems that 0.12p binaries have reached my mirror ... Is 0.12p more > or less official by now ? last night I put on pdftex-0.12p at ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex-testing/pdftex-0.12p. This release should be pdftex-0.13, if no serious bug is found. The major changes are: - the bug with new tex.ch from teTeX fixed (thanks to Fabrice) - the bug with reading t1 builtin encoding fixed - the problem of pdf inclusion od Digital Unix fixed - ttf2afm has been changed a lot. I will have to update the manual soon. At the moment running ttf2afm without argument shows the usage - ttf handling has been improved correspoding to ttf2afm. The most important change is the ability to specify glyph index in enc file by saying ie `index123' - config stuff for cross-compiling - reading map files only when needed (pdftex was reading map files when it started) Thanh From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Oct 22 01:50:33 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22850 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 01:50:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id DAA07252 for pdftex-list; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:19:45 -0400 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA07249 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:19:42 -0400 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15969 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:19:21 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA02985 for pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:19:19 +0200 (MET DST) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <199810220719.JAA02985@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: TTF problem To: pdftex@tug.org (PDFTEX) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:19:19 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, if you understand TrueType fonts, can you please have a look at ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex-testing/ttftest/testfont.pdf I don't know what's wrong with it, but Acrobat Reader is not happy with the embedded TTF font. I have extracted the font from pdf file and tried to check: ttfdump didn't show any problem, neither ftlint from freetype. Only ttf_edit >From Richad Kinch said that the font has bad checksum, but nothing else. Thanh From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Oct 22 11:01:32 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04812 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 11:01:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA07968 for pdftex-list; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:15:35 -0400 Received: from extra.ucc.su.OZ.AU (extra.ucc.su.oz.au [129.78.64.4]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA07965 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:15:31 -0400 Received: from mail.usyd.edu.au (mp-7-60.mp.usyd.edu.au [129.78.57.60]) by extra.ucc.su.OZ.AU (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id CAA13094 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 02:15:26 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <362F5C20.83417CC@mail.usyd.edu.au> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 02:24:00 +1000 From: Robert Howlett X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDFTEX Subject: Re: TTF problem References: <199810220719.JAA02985@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Han The Thanh wrote: > > Hi, > > if you understand TrueType fonts, can you please have a look at > ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex-testing/ttftest/testfont.pdf > I don't know what's wrong with it, but Acrobat Reader is not happy with the > embedded TTF font. I have extracted the font from pdf file and tried to check: > ttfdump didn't show any problem, neither ftlint from freetype. Only ttf_edit > from Richad Kinch said that the font has bad checksum, but nothing else. > > Thanh Isn't this more likely to be an Acrobat Reader bug? -- GSView is happy with the file. I have experimented with large numbers of different TrueType fonts with pdftex and I've never obtained a font table which Acrobat Reader is totally happy with (some characters not printing, some in the wrong places etc.), even though GSView is invariably happy with the files. I am hoping that the next version of Acrobat Reader will be fixed. Bob From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Oct 22 11:55:16 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06129 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 11:55:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA08270 for pdftex-list; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:27:30 -0400 Received: from feijoada.ime.usp.br (feijoada.ime.usp.br [143.107.45.20]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA08267 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:27:28 -0400 Received: (qmail 5678 invoked from network); 22 Oct 1998 17:27:28 -0000 Received: from fradim.ime.usp.br (143.107.45.37) by feijoada.ime.usp.br with SMTP; 22 Oct 1998 17:27:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 13151 invoked by uid 419); 22 Oct 1998 17:27:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19981022172720.13146.qmail@fradim.ime.usp.br> From: Pedro A Tonelli Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:27:19 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Troubles with the binary dist 0.12p X-Mailer: VM 6.32 under Emacs 20.2.3 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I got pdftex.zip today from FTP Directory: ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex-testing/pdftex-0.12p/bin/Su n_SPARC_Solaris/ [DIR] Parent Directory [FILE] pdftex.zip . . . . . . . . . . . [Oct 21 20:07] 358k After unziping i tried to run the binary and got the followig error message fradim[/home/map/tonelli/pdftex]% pdftex ld.so.1: pdftex: fatal: libg++.so: can't open file: errno=2 Killed Old binary versions for SPARC of pdftex worked fine. Did I something wrong? Should I complain to syst admin? Thanks. -Pedro A. Tonelli- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Oct 22 11:57:44 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06162 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 11:57:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA08275 for pdftex-list; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:27:36 -0400 Received: from nx1.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE (nx1.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.131.3]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA08272 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:27:35 -0400 Received: from nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE by nx1.hrz.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (PP); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:27:24 +0200 Received: from sx2.hrz.uni-dortmund.de by nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE (PP) with ESMTP; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:27:20 +0200 Received: from orion.univie.ac.at (stud-167.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.227.167]) by sx2.hrz.uni-dortmund.de (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA02944; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:27:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from sx0005@localhost) by orion.univie.ac.at (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA00359; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:31:11 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:31:11 GMT Message-Id: <199810221831.SAA00359@orion.univie.ac.at> X-Authentication-Warning: orion.univie.ac.at: sx0005 set sender to sx0005@sx2.hrz.uni-dortmund.de using -f From: Werner LEMBERG To: thanh@informatics.muni.cz CC: pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <199810220648.IAA00617@anxur.fi.muni.cz> (message from Han The Thanh on Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:48:42 +0200 (MET DST)) Subject: Re: 0.12p Reply-to: Werner LEMBERG References: <199810220648.IAA00617@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk release should be pdftex-0.13, if no serious bug is found. The major changes are: - ttf handling has been improved correspoding to ttf2afm. The most important change is the ability to specify glyph index in enc file by saying ie `index123' Thanh, I suggest you download a new snapshot of freetype (ftp://ftp.freetype.org/pub/freetype/devel/freetype-current.tar.gz) and look at the current ttf2tfm so we can simplify the mapping files -- I use e.g. `.c0x1234' or `.c22345' for character codes and `.g0x1234' for glyph indices. Werner From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Oct 22 14:05:25 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09755 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:05:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA08649 for pdftex-list; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:39:47 -0400 Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA08645 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:39:45 -0400 Received: from fell.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (MMTA v2.2) with ESMTP; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:39:39 +0100 Received: (from car2@localhost) by fell.open.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.6.12) id UAA10850; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:39:30 +0100 (BST) From: Chris Rowley MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:39:29 +0100 (BST) To: Pedro A Tonelli Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Troubles with the binary dist 0.12p In-Reply-To: <19981022172720.13146.qmail@fradim.ime.usp.br> References: <19981022172720.13146.qmail@fradim.ime.usp.br> X-Mailer: VM 6.44 under Emacs 19.34.1 Message-ID: <13871.35193.336454.809942@fell.open.ac.uk> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Pedro A Tonelli wrote -- > > After unziping i tried to run the binary and got the followig error > message > > fradim[/home/map/tonelli/pdftex]% pdftex > ld.so.1: pdftex: fatal: libg++.so: can't open file: errno=2 > Killed I can reproduce this "feature". > > > Old binary versions for SPARC of pdftex worked fine. Did I something wrong? > Should I complain to syst admin? Well it will not be much use me doing that as here that is lil'ol'me:-). chris From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Oct 22 15:39:48 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12332 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:39:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA08878 for pdftex-list; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:07:36 -0400 Received: from toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk [163.1.20.20]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA08875 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:07:34 -0400 Received: from localhost (ripley@localhost) by toucan.stats.ox.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id WAA05306; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:04:57 +0100 (BST) X-Authentication-Warning: toucan.stats: ripley owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:04:57 +0100 (BST) From: Prof Brian Ripley X-Sender: ripley@toucan.stats To: Pedro A Tonelli cc: Chris Rowley , pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: Troubles with the binary dist 0.12p In-Reply-To: <19981022172720.13146.qmail@fradim.ime.usp.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 22 Oct 1998, Pedro A Tonelli wrote: > Hello, > > I got pdftex.zip today from > > FTP Directory: > ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex-testing/pdftex-0.12p/bin/Su > n_SPARC_Solaris/ > > [DIR] Parent Directory > [FILE] pdftex.zip . . . . . . . . . . . [Oct 21 20:07] 358k > > After unziping i tried to run the binary and got the followig error > message > > fradim[/home/map/tonelli/pdftex]% pdftex > ld.so.1: pdftex: fatal: libg++.so: can't open file: errno=2 > Killed > > > Old binary versions for SPARC of pdftex worked fine. Did I something wrong? The problems are: (1) The Makefile uses g++ for the final link not gcc. In Makefile.in alter @PTEX@CXXLD = $(CXX) to @PTEX@CXXLD = $(CC) in web2c-7.2. (2) It looks as if this was built with gcc 2.7.x, so libg++ is linked. That is not present in recent gcc systems. Change (1) fixes this for me (with gcc 2.8.1). I have put a file at ftp://ftp.stats.ox.ac.uk/pub/bdr/pdftex.zip with the pdftex and pdftex.pool I built replacing the one from the ftp.cstug.cz distribution. This has no problems with C++ libraries: auk% ldd pdftex libm.so.1 => /opt/SUNWspro/lib/libm.so.1 libc.so.1 => /usr/lib/libc.so.1 libdl.so.1 => /usr/lib/libdl.so.1 and works on my files. I hope this is useful as a stop-gap until the main distribution can be re-built. -- Brian D. Ripley, ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Oct 22 15:57:18 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12736 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:57:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA08916 for pdftex-list; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:18:00 -0400 Received: from mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de (mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.1.6]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA08913 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:17:58 -0400 Received: from remote142-3.home.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.142.3] by mailgateway1.uni-freiburg.de with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 0zWS7C-000238-00; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 23:17:51 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19981022231501.2837fe7a@pop3.uni-freiburg.de> X-Sender: oberdiek@pop3.uni-freiburg.de X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 23:15:01 +0200 To: PDFTEX From: Heiko Oberdiek Subject: Re: TTF problem In-Reply-To: <362F5C20.83417CC@mail.usyd.edu.au> References: <199810220719.JAA02985@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk At 02:24 23.10.1998 +1000, you wrote: >Han The Thanh wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> if you understand TrueType fonts, can you please have a look at >> ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex-testing/ttftest/testfont .pdf >> I don't know what's wrong with it, but Acrobat Reader is not happy with the >> embedded TTF font. >[...] >Isn't this more likely to be an Acrobat Reader bug? -- GSView is >happy with the file. > >I have experimented with large numbers of different TrueType fonts >with pdftex and I've never obtained a font table which Acrobat >Reader is totally happy with (some characters not printing, some >in the wrong places etc.), even though GSView is invariably happy with >the files. I tried to view Han The Thanh's testfont.pdf with: * Acrobat Reader 3.01 for Win3.1, german version: Warning message: font 'GKAAAA+BitstreamCyberbit-Roman' cannot be found. All glyphs are substituted by a small full circle. :-(( Acrobat Font Info: BitstreamCyberbit-Roman TrueType subst: Helvetica Type1 * GSView 2.4 with GhostScript 5.10 under Win3.1/Win32s: Serious exception error: Unhandled Exception detected. (GSVIEW.EXE, gsdll32.dll) :-((( * GhostScript 5.10 under DOS/DOS4GW: Exception error (page fault) :-((( Only with my own generated testfont.pdf with TTF-Fonts and 8r.enc GhostScript is happy :-) AcrobatReader, however, cannot view these files correct, glyphs 0..31 and 128..160 are emtpy or are replaced by a small square. :-(( Yours sincerely Heiko From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Oct 23 03:12:13 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA27539 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 03:12:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id EAA09769 for pdftex-list; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 04:30:32 -0400 Received: from samba.intra.jablotron.cz (gw.jablotron.cz [194.228.41.250]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA09766 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 04:30:24 -0400 Received: from Osoba.intra.jablotron.cz (osoba.intra.jablotron.cz [192.168.250.38]) by samba.intra.jablotron.cz with SMTP id KAA24271 (8.7.6/IDA-1.6 for ); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:44:14 +0200 Message-ID: <199810230844.KAA24271@samba.intra.jablotron.cz> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Jiri Osoba" Organization: Jablotron Ltd. - Development dpt. To: pdftex@tug.org Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:31:48 +0200 Subject: Re: 0.12p Reply-to: Jiri Osoba X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello, DJGPP version of pdfTeX with encTeX is available in bin/DJGPP pdfTeX's directory. Jiri. From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Oct 23 04:35:50 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA29043 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 04:35:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA10048 for pdftex-list; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 05:40:30 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA10045 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 05:40:29 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id KAA00539; hop 0; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:32:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:38:50 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13872.17230.72000.593212@SRAHTZ> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:50:22 +0100 ( `) To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: TTF problem In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.19981022231501.2837fe7a@pop3.uni-freiburg.de> References: <199810220719.JAA02985@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <3.0.1.16.19981022231501.2837fe7a@pop3.uni-freiburg.de> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Heiko Oberdiek writes: > ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex-testing/ttftest/testfont > .pdf > >> I don't know what's wrong with it, but Acrobat Reader is not happy with the > >> embedded TTF font. ... > AcrobatReader, however, cannot view these files correct, > glyphs 0..31 and 128..160 are emtpy or are replaced by a small square. :-(( > with Acrobat 4 beta, the file loads with no warnings. 0..31 and 128..160 are displayed as hollow boxes. the rest looks fine sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Oct 23 05:51:06 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA00545 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 05:51:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA10295 for pdftex-list; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 07:00:34 -0400 Received: from lim.univ-mrs.fr (srv1.lim.univ-mrs.fr [139.124.5.58]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA10291 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 07:00:29 -0400 Received: from [139.124.14.234] (mac-latex.dil.univ-mrs.fr [139.124.14.234]) by lim.univ-mrs.fr (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12387; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:56:45 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:56:45 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: basso@pop.lim.univ-mrs.fr Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <13872.17230.72000.593212@SRAHTZ> References: <3.0.1.16.19981022231501.2837fe7a@pop3.uni-freiburg.de> <199810220719.JAA02985@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <3.0.1.16.19981022231501.2837fe7a@pop3.uni-freiburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Sebastian Rahtz From: Pierre Basso Subject: Re: TTF problem Cc: pdftex@tug.org Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk >Heiko Oberdiek writes: > > >ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex-testing/ttftest/testfont > > >.pdf > > >> I don't know what's wrong with it, but Acrobat Reader is not happy >with the > > >> embedded TTF font. >... > > AcrobatReader, however, cannot view these files correct, > > glyphs 0..31 and 128..160 are emtpy or are replaced by a small square. :-(( > > > >with Acrobat 4 beta, the file loads with no warnings. 0..31 and >128..160 are displayed as hollow boxes. the rest looks fine > >sebastian Acrobat 4 beta? Where can we find it? Does it exist a Mac version? I thank you. Pierre BASSO ******************************************* * * * Pierre BASSO * * Laboratoire d'Informatique de Marseille * * CNRS ESA 6077 * * Facult\'e des Sciences - case 901 * * 163 Avenue de Luminy * * 13288 MARSEILLE cedex 9 * * FRANCE * * Tel.: (33) 04.91.82.90.72 * * * ******************************************* From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Oct 23 07:32:18 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA02627 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 07:32:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA10648 for pdftex-list; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:00:35 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA10645 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:00:33 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id NAA07630; hop 0; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:52:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:58:56 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13872.30520.683000.521472@SRAHTZ> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:31:52 +0100 ( `) To: Pierre.Basso@lim.univ-mrs.fr Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: TTF problem In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.16.19981022231501.2837fe7a@pop3.uni-freiburg.de> <199810220719.JAA02985@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Pierre Basso writes: > Acrobat 4 beta? Where can we find it? Does it exist a Mac version? > I thank you. > Acrobat have a controlled beta release program which ADA members and others can sign up for, but its definitely not freely available. I guess I am probably going against the small print in even admitting the result of testing Thanh's file :-} sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Oct 23 10:02:10 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06568 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:02:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA11023 for pdftex-list; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:28:56 -0400 Received: from extra.ucc.su.OZ.AU (extra.ucc.su.oz.au [129.78.64.4]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA11020 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:28:53 -0400 Received: from mail.usyd.edu.au (mp-8-17.mp.usyd.edu.au [129.78.57.79]) by extra.ucc.su.OZ.AU (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id BAA04785 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 01:28:48 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <3630A2BC.73986E10@mail.usyd.edu.au> Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 01:37:32 +1000 From: Robert Howlett X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdfTeX mailing list Subject: TTF problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, When I said that GSview was happy with Thanh's testfont.pdf I should've said that I used GSview 2.6 with ghostscript 5.50 on Windows 95. All the glyphs display correctly. So I hope that when Adobe release Acrobat 4 it will have been modified so that it too displays this file OK. With the current Acrobat Reader I get the "unable to find or create the font GKAAAA+BitstreamCyberbit-Roman" error message. I've put a testfont.pdf of my own at http://www-personal.usyd.edu.au/~rhowlett/testfont.pdf It also displays OK with GSview but not Acrobat 3.01. I'd like to know whether Acrobat 4 beta is happy with it. Bob From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Oct 23 10:16:13 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06909 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:15:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA11097 for pdftex-list; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:39:19 -0400 Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA11094 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:39:15 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.21.86]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA27DE; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 17:38:57 +0200 Message-ID: <363039B3.79A092A7@wxs.nl> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:09:23 +0100 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Howlett CC: PDFTEX Subject: Re: TTF problem References: <199810220719.JAA02985@anxur.fi.muni.cz> <362F5C20.83417CC@mail.usyd.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Robert Howlett wrote: > I am hoping that the next version of Acrobat Reader will be fixed. Just tested it. Same problem, Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Oct 23 10:25:55 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07149 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:25:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA13748 for pdftex-list; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:58:54 -0400 Received: from esemetz.ese-metz.fr (esemetz.ese-metz.fr [193.48.224.212]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA11180 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:53:38 -0400 Received: from NEUROMANCER.ese-metz.fr (neuromancer.ese-metz.fr [193.48.224.95]) by esemetz.ese-metz.fr (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA14606 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 17:53:14 +0200 To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: win32 0.12p Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Fabrice POPINEAU Date: 23 Oct 1998 17:53:21 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 13 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.43/XEmacs 21.0 - "Poitou" Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, It is available from the usual place : ftp://ftp.ese-metz.fr/pub/TeX/win32-beta/pdftex-0.12p-win32.zip It is almost untested. I have been a lot more busy than expected, so please report any problem you might have. Thanks in advance, Fabrice From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Oct 23 10:34:06 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07422 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:34:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA16442 for pdftex-list; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:06:49 -0400 Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk (root@pillar.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA16438 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:06:47 -0400 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "s.rahtz@elsevier.co.uk"; id QAA14625; hop 0; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 16:59:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from SRAHTZ (actually host srahtz.elsevier.co.uk) by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 17:03:26 +0100 X-Mailer: emacs 19.34.6 (via feedmail 9-beta-3 Q); VM 6.61 under Emacs 19.34.6 From: Sebastian Rahtz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13872.42797.396000.119986@SRAHTZ> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 16:56:29 +0100 ( `) To: rhowlett@mail.usyd.edu.au Cc: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: TTF problem In-Reply-To: <3630A2BC.73986E10@mail.usyd.edu.au> References: <3630A2BC.73986E10@mail.usyd.edu.au> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Robert Howlett writes: > > I've put a testfont.pdf of my own at > http://www-personal.usyd.edu.au/~rhowlett/testfont.pdf with acrobat 4, i get a normal load, and a full testfont of BahamasPlain sebastian From owner-pdftex@tug.org Tue Oct 27 10:09:32 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02959 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:09:25 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA04643 for pdftex-list; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:09:05 -0500 Received: from lascas.math.ist.utl.pt (lascas.math.ist.utl.pt [193.136.196.3]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA04639 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:08:54 -0500 Received: from jive.math.ist.utl.pt (IDENT:jmatos@jive.math.ist.utl.pt [193.136.196.103]) by lascas.math.ist.utl.pt (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id QAA18266 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 16:08:39 GMT Received: from localhost by jive.math.ist.utl.pt (8.8.7) id QAA01971; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 16:08:38 GMT Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 16:08:38 +0000 (WET) From: Joao Palhoto Matos To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: missing characters in graphics inclusions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by jive.math.ist.utl.pt id QAA01971 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tug.org id LAA04641 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello pdftexers: I have placed an example file illustrating some included pdf files which display correctly but don't print correctly at http://www.math.ist.utl.pt/~jmatos/pdftex_problems/pdf_prob.pdf The file describes the problem. This uses pdftex-0.12p as included in the teTeX prerelease of October 22/23. All *.eps and *.pdf files can be found in the same directory. epstopdf was used (the version coming with the same teTeX prerelease) to produce the files to be included. These display and print correctly by themselves. No anomalies occur when processing with latex, xdvi, dvips. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks, -- Joăo Palhoto Matos Departamento de Matemática Instituto Superior Técnico Lisboa From owner-pdftex@tug.org Wed Oct 28 03:27:45 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA26151 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 03:27:43 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id EAA05363 for pdftex-list; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 04:48:08 -0500 Received: from aida.inet.cz (root@aida.inet.cz [194.196.192.1]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA05360 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 04:47:52 -0500 Received: from SnowWhite.inet.cz (IDENT:pavel@dialup1.inet.cz [194.196.193.1]) by aida.inet.cz (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA08208; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:41:53 +0100 Received: (from pavel@localhost) by SnowWhite.inet.cz (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA02224; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:53:06 +0100 To: Christophe BERNARD Cc: teTeX pretest list CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: 981023 success report and problems References: X-Operating-System: Linux 2.1.125 on Intel, Linux 2.0.32 on SPARC Organization: INET a.s., Kralovopolska 139, Brno, 60112, Czech Republic X-URL-PGP: http://www.inet.cz/~pjanik X-Phone: +420 5 41321276 ext. 171, +420 5 41321251 ext. 17 X-Spam: No unsolicited e-mail. 500 dollars per message proof-reading for unsolicited e-mail. X-Not-Receiving-Mail-From: mrp.cz, hotmail.com, post.cz, email.cz, usa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 From: Pavel.Janik@inet.cz (Pavel Janik ml.) Date: 28 Oct 1998 09:53:03 +0100 In-Reply-To: Christophe BERNARD's message of Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:22:27 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: Lines: 21 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk From: Christophe BERNARD Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:22:27 +0100 (CET) Hi, > However, some people on the list spoke about a failing "pdftex supp-pdf" > command. Why should this be a bug ? When I compile a file with pdflatex, > this file is included properly. Hans has clarified this. > pdfTeX error (ext1): you can't use both `file' and `num' with GoTo action. > l.126 num > 1 % goto destination with num identifier > ! ==> Fatal error occurred, the output PDF file not finished! > Transcript written on example.log. This is pdfTeX's 0.12p bug. Will be fixed soon. Binary of 0.12o-8 is ok. -- Pavel Janík ml. Pavel.Janik@inet.cz From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Oct 29 01:20:19 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA25534 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 01:20:18 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id CAA06829 for pdftex-list; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 02:40:39 -0500 Received: from mgate.uni-hannover.de (root@mgate.uni-hannover.de [130.75.2.3]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA06826 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 02:40:25 -0500 Received: from gauss.informatik.uni-hannover.de (actually h41.ts1.uni-hannover.de) by mgate.uni-hannover.de with LocalSMTP (PP) with ESMTP; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:40:02 +0100 Received: (from te@localhost) by gauss.informatik.uni-hannover.de (8.8.5/8.6.12) id IAA08224; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:38:42 +0100 Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:38:42 +0100 From: Thomas Esser Message-Id: <199810290738.IAA08224@gauss.informatik.uni-hannover.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: Han The Thanh Subject: pdftoepdf.cc patch Cc: pdftex@tug.org Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hello Thanh, your version of pdftoepdf.cc first reads system headers directly and then includes (indirectly) some kpathsea header files (esp. kpathsea/c-std.h and kpathsea/getopt.h). People have reported problems on SunOS4 due to conflicting prototypes for popen, pclose and getopt. A simple fix is to use kpathsea header files in all cases. Thomas *** pdftoepdf.cc.orig Thu Oct 29 08:04:20 1998 --- pdftoepdf.cc Thu Oct 29 08:08:57 1998 *************** *** 1,8 **** ! #include ! #include ! #include ! #include ! #include #include #include #include "Object.h" --- 1,7 ---- ! #include ! #include ! #include ! #include #include #include #include "Object.h" From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Oct 29 13:05:39 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA10615 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 13:05:38 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA07963 for pdftex-list; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:05:22 -0500 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA07960 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:05:19 -0500 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA19089; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 20:05:08 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA24623; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 20:05:04 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <199810291905.UAA24623@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: missing characters in graphics inclusions In-Reply-To: from Joao Palhoto Matos at "Oct 27, 98 04:08:38 pm" To: jmatos@math.ist.utl.pt (Joao Palhoto Matos) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 20:05:04 +0100 (MET) Cc: pdftex@tug.org (PDFTEX) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Hello pdftexers: > > I have placed an example file illustrating some included pdf files which > display correctly but don't print correctly at > > http://www.math.ist.utl.pt/~jmatos/pdftex_problems/pdf_prob.pdf > > The file describes the problem. This uses pdftex-0.12p as included > in the teTeX prerelease of October 22/23. All *.eps and *.pdf files can be > found in the same directory. epstopdf was used (the version coming with > the same teTeX prerelease) to produce the files to be included. These > display and print correctly by themselves. No anomalies occur when > processing with latex, xdvi, dvips. Any thoughts would be > appreciated. I encountered this problem a couple of months ago. I would call it a bug of AcroReader and GS: when a page contains XObjects like forms, images etc, their resources don't need to appear in the Resources dict of the current page [the PDF-1.2 spec says so]. However it's not supported even in AcroReader yet (well, not fully), ie when a XObject' resource is not included in the Resources dict of the containing page, printing fails. I am not considering to work around this yet, as this *is* a bug, not a feature. Thanh From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Oct 29 13:55:51 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11809 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 13:55:50 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA08110 for pdftex-list; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:19:47 -0500 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA08107 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:19:44 -0500 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA24351; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 21:19:42 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA27697; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 21:19:41 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <199810292019.VAA27697@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: Troubles with the binary dist 0.12p In-Reply-To: from Prof Brian Ripley at "Oct 22, 98 10:04:57 pm" To: ripley@stats.ox.ac.uk (Prof Brian Ripley) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 21:19:41 +0100 (MET) Cc: pdftex@tug.org (PDFTEX) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > > I got pdftex.zip today from > > > > FTP Directory: > > ftp://ftp.cstug.cz/pub/tex/local/cstug/thanh/pdftex-testing/pdftex-0.12p/bin/Su > > n_SPARC_Solaris/ > > > > [DIR] Parent Directory > > [FILE] pdftex.zip . . . . . . . . . . . [Oct 21 20:07] 358k > > > > After unziping i tried to run the binary and got the followig error > > message > > > > fradim[/home/map/tonelli/pdftex]% pdftex > > ld.so.1: pdftex: fatal: libg++.so: can't open file: errno=2 > > Killed > > > > > > Old binary versions for SPARC of pdftex worked fine. Did I something wrong? > > The problems are: > > (1) The Makefile uses g++ for the final link not gcc. In Makefile.in alter > > @PTEX@CXXLD = $(CXX) > > to > > @PTEX@CXXLD = $(CC) > > in web2c-7.2. > > (2) It looks as if this was built with gcc 2.7.x, so libg++ is linked. > That is not present in recent gcc systems. > > Change (1) fixes this for me (with gcc 2.8.1). I have put a file at > > ftp://ftp.stats.ox.ac.uk/pub/bdr/pdftex.zip > > with the pdftex and pdftex.pool I built replacing the one from the > ftp.cstug.cz distribution. This has no problems with C++ libraries: > > auk% ldd pdftex > libm.so.1 => /opt/SUNWspro/lib/libm.so.1 > libc.so.1 => /usr/lib/libc.so.1 > libdl.so.1 => /usr/lib/libdl.so.1 that's my mistake: The distributed binaries should be static linked. I will update the makefile. Thanh From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Oct 29 13:57:00 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11848 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 13:56:59 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA08155 for pdftex-list; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:27:07 -0500 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA08152 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:27:05 -0500 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA24739 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 21:27:01 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA28169 for pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 21:26:59 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <199810292026.VAA28169@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: pdftexlib To: pdftex@tug.org (PDFTEX) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 21:26:59 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, if somebody has any suggestions concerning to pdftexlib, please let me know. I am happy to do that in the next release. Thanh From owner-pdftex@tug.org Thu Oct 29 23:51:32 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA25551 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 23:51:31 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA09320 for pdftex-list; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 01:20:39 -0500 Received: from mgate.uni-hannover.de (root@mgate.uni-hannover.de [130.75.2.3]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA09317 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 01:20:38 -0500 Received: from gauss.informatik.uni-hannover.de (actually h19.ts1.uni-hannover.de) by mgate.uni-hannover.de with LocalSMTP (PP) with ESMTP; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 07:09:00 +0100 Received: (from te@localhost) by gauss.informatik.uni-hannover.de (8.8.5/8.6.12) id WAA08214 for pdftex@tug.org; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 22:14:59 +0100 Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 22:14:59 +0100 From: Thomas Esser Message-Id: <199810292114.WAA08214@gauss.informatik.uni-hannover.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: ttf2afm installation Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, someone reported problems that "make install" installed the libtool ttf2afm wrapper script when configured with shared libraries. I think the easiest fix is to compile ttf2afm in the web2c directory directly by the following lines in web2c/Makefile.in programs = ... @PTEX@ttf2afm ttf2afm: ttf2afm.o $(kpathsea_link) ttf2afm.o ttf2afm.o: ttf2afm.c macnames.c $(compile) $< ttf2afm.c: $(LN) $(srcdir)/pdftexdir/ttf2afm.c . macnames.c: $(LN) $(srcdir)/pdftexdir/macnames.c . clean:: ... @PTEX@ rm -f macnames.c ttf2afm.c Thomas From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Oct 30 02:15:35 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA28635 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 02:15:34 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id DAA09597 for pdftex-list; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 03:37:03 -0500 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA09594 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 03:37:01 -0500 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17223; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:36:58 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA20918; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:36:56 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <199810300836.JAA20918@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: Re: pdftexlib In-Reply-To: <36397776.EA081732@wxs.nl> from Hans Hagen at "Oct 30, 98 09:23:18 am" To: pragma@wxs.nl (Hans Hagen) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:36:56 +0100 (MET) Cc: pdftex@tug.org (PDFTEX) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > Han The Thanh wrote: > > > if somebody has any suggestions concerning to pdftexlib, please let me know. I > > am happy to do that in the next release. > > What do you mean with pdftex lib? pdftex? I mean the files in pdftexlib-0.12.zip, thus files in texmf/pdftex tree (*.enc, *.map etc). Thanh From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Oct 30 08:26:59 1998 Flags: 000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05863 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:26:52 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA10047 for pdftex-list; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:33:09 -0500 Received: from regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de (te@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de [130.75.26.7]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA10044 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:33:08 -0500 Received: (from te@localhost) by regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id PAA00322 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:32:44 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:32:44 +0100 (MET) From: Thomas Esser Message-Id: <199810301432.PAA00322@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: 981023 fails to build on SunOS 4.1.3 as usual Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk a patch from Keith Refson for ttf2afm.c: > 1) texk/web2c/pdftexdir/ttf2afm.c fails to compile because it can't > find getopt.. Here's a patch > > diff ttf2afm.c ttf2afm.c~ > 11d10 > < #include Hm... Like in pdftoepdf.cc we have a mixture of kpathsea and system headers again. Maybe, one should replace the system headers by their kpathsea version? The headers would be (untested): #ifdef WIN32 #include #include #include #else #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include in that case. Maybe, the #ifdef WIN32 can go away with these headers... Thomas From owner-pdftex@tug.org Fri Oct 30 10:01:06 1998 Flags: 000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08263 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 10:01:00 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA10468 for pdftex-list; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:31:21 -0500 Received: from aragorn.ics.muni.cz (aragorn.ics.muni.cz [147.251.4.33]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA10464 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:31:13 -0500 Received: from anxur.fi.muni.cz (11601@anxur.fi.muni.cz [147.251.48.3]) by aragorn.ics.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAB27062 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 17:31:02 +0100 (MET) Received: (from thanh@localhost) by anxur.fi.muni.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA17329 for pdftex@tug.cs.umb.edu; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 17:31:00 +0100 (MET) From: Han The Thanh Message-Id: <199810301631.RAA17329@anxur.fi.muni.cz> Subject: pdftex-0.12q To: pdftex@tug.org (PDFTEX) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 17:31:00 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I've just released the pdftex-0.12q sources. The binaries will be added later. Thanh