1-Nov-1999 14:22:12-GMT,2309;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA26769 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:22:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01448; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:14:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:11:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA01112; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:11:53 -0600 From: Cybergrphx@aol.com Message-ID: <0.55f13725.254ef99b@aol.com> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:11:39 EST Subject: [PDF] DocuLex PDF.Capture Lite? To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I came across the "deal" with this product bundled with a Ricoh scanner for $3395 and wondered if the product is reasonable for mid-level (~1500 images/day or so) production. We assumed that IF this product works adequately, we could theoretically be getting a "free" scanner, as we would be applying dongle money to this purchase, but still ending up with the end results of PDFs (Image+Hidden Text). Doculex notes that the "lite" version does not handle TIFF import and that the software is tied to that scanner only, but I don't envision that being a problem. Any TIFF importing can still be handled by another machine and processed by Acrobat Capture as necessary. Any comments on this? Is this a good deal? Thanks Rob Robertson Cybergraphix, Inc. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Nov-1999 15:09:10-GMT,1819;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA27163 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:09:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05264; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:59:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:58:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05140; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:58:10 -0600 From: chuck.davis@ihs.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: IHS To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8725681C.0051705F.00@domino.ihs.com> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:52:52 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Security Settings Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi! Is there anyway to set the securitys for a group of PDF files in the same folder at one time rather then individually. SanD You can you the batch processing in Adobe Acrobat to set security and other options on multiple files. Chuck Davis Information Handling Services ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Nov-1999 16:03:23-GMT,1983;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27765 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:03:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA10056; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:46:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:44:47 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA09809; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:44:46 -0600 Message-ID: <4B1A7E5A9ECDD211BAFC00A0C906C02914B49D@platinum.bs.umt.edu> From: "Baker, Nick" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: pdf-digest for October-30-99 [V2 #652] Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:42:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thanks to all who responded to my query re.: pdfs and screen readers. I have forwarded the material to the folks here who can use it. Nick -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com] Sent: Saturday, October 30, 1999 4:14 AM To: pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: pdf-digest for October-30-99 [V2 #652] ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Nov-1999 17:18:07-GMT,3951;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28774 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:18:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17926; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:08:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:04:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA17544; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:04:28 -0600 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Indexing PDF files Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:10:05 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > >We would like to add another functionality. These PDF files are > financial statements. We would like to have a user get to > the file through > some kind of a front end process, and allow him/her to > display only the hits > which would have been made by giving an account number and a PIN. > > > > > >Can this be done? How? > > > > You are describing a search by index data. This is easy to > incorporate > > into the function of Acrobat Search. Simply load your index data > > ("Account Number", and "PIN" in your case, I guess) to the Document > > Information fields for each of your PDFs. (in Acrobat, do a > Control-D to > > see these fields). > > > > Then, you set your File - Preferences - Search dialog to > "Show Fields". > > > > Thank you Duff for answering my post. > > However, In "our" Acrobat 4.0, File - Preferences hase no > Search dialog, > but only: > Genreal Annotations Full Screen Web Link > > Did I skip an option during the "typical" installation? I think you are looking at Acrobat Reader 4.0 without the Search plugin installed. You need either Acrobat 4.0, or Acrobat Reader with Search in order to get Search functionality. > > Build a new index, and load it. Start a search. Enter an account > > number (for instance) into the field you've chosen to hold > this data. > > Your search will be limited, or filtered, if you will, by > this value. > > Please bare with me while I re-state what I'm looking for: > > Say you are a member of State Federal Credit Union (name is > fictitious, I > hop). You go to their web site, click on a link that says > you would like to > see your 10/99 statement. > > The front end process asks for your member number, and PIN. > After it clears > you as the right owner of the account, it searches the PDF > file for the > account number (that is how we indexed the PDF file). After > it finds the > hits, it shows them to you. > > Is that still possible? Yes... but it's a totally different requirement from the issue I answered above. For what you're describing, you need a web-server based security and access setup. Visit Glyphica (www.glyphica.com) for their infoportal software -- I think it'll do exactly what you want. Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. http://www.document-solutions.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Nov-1999 17:36:11-GMT,2646;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29024 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:36:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA20218; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:29:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:28:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA20085; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:28:13 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19991101112815.006dc39c@omnipress.com> X-Sender: uschan@omnipress.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 11:28:15 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Christopher Uschan Subject: [PDF] White lines in scanned images (continued) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Interesting topic and commentary. reviewing the Adobe support file: http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/b6be.htm - it states under solution 2: to use PDF writer setting with default resolution at 300 or 600... This is not a solution as we standardize at 300 dpi and we are getting those white lines as well. When viewing a PDF that has white lines, I interestingly find a corresponding black dash (about 1/8 of an inch in length) flush on the right edge of my document at the same level where the white lines cut thru the text. Of course, when printing this document, there are no white lines or black dashes. (maybe this is a form of a technical solution... joking) I remember seeing these lines in 3.0 as well if we were to scan at a resolution of 400 dpi. Does anyone who is not using capture to produce PDFs getting the same results with white lines ? Chris Uschan ------------ Digital Resources Manager - OMNIPRESS phone: 608-246-2600 fax: 608-246-4237 Learn more about us at http://www.omnipress.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Nov-1999 17:43:45-GMT,3668;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29133 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:43:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21333; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:38:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:37:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21176; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:37:08 -0600 Message-ID: <297E9C38E03DD31187240090279334C602E8E2@smtp.cepr.org> From: Michaela Cahillane To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Tex to PDF font problems Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 17:25:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BF248E.1EE8B96C" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF248E.1EE8B96C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" I have several PDF files, which originated in TeX, that do not view properly on the screen, but print correctly. Specifically, equations do not view properly--the most obvious examples of this include minus signs and asterisks, but which are displayed as underscores, but view correctly. Does anyone have a solution to this? Thank you. Michaela Cahillane Electronic Publications Project Coordinator CEPR ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF248E.1EE8B96C Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1"

I have several PDF files, which originated in TeX, that do not view properly on the screen, but print correctly. Specifically, equations do not view properly--the most obvious examples of this include minus signs and asterisks,  but which are displayed as underscores, but view correctly.

Does anyone have a solution to this?


Thank you.

 

 

Michaela Cahillane
Electronic Publications Project Coordinator
CEPR
 
 
------_=_NextPart_001_01BF248E.1EE8B96C-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Nov-1999 19:21:52-GMT,4548;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00570 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:21:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA30278; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:12:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:09:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29920; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:09:57 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <297E9C38E03DD31187240090279334C602E8E2@smtp.cepr.org> References: <297E9C38E03DD31187240090279334C602E8E2@smtp.cepr.org> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:02:19 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] Tex to PDF font problems Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1270638913==_ma============" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ --============_-1270638913==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At 5:25 PM +0000 11/1/99, Michaela Cahillane wrote: >I have several PDF files, which originated in TeX, that do not view=20 >properly on the screen, but print correctly. Specifically, equations=20 >do not view properly--the most obvious examples of this include=20 >minus signs and asterisks, but which are displayed as underscores,=20 >but view correctly. > The problem is most likely that the creator of the PDF's was=20 using MetaFonts which end up converting to Type 3's when doing a=20 DVI->PS (and then a PS->PDF). I would suggest getting the original TeX documents, perhaps=20 switching fonts to a Type 1 font, and then outputting direct to PDF=20 via PDFTex (). Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- =20 You've got a SmartFriend=81 in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: =46TP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 --============_-1270638913==_ma============ Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At 5:25 PM +0000 11/1/99, Michaela Cahillane wrote: ArialI have several PDF files, which originated in TeX, that do not view properly on the screen, but print correctly. Specifically, equations do not view properly--the most obvious examples of this include minus signs and asterisks, but which are displayed as underscores, but view correctly. Arial The problem is most likely that the creator of the PDF's was using MetaFonts which end up converting to Type 3's when doing a DVI->PS (and then a PS->PDF). =20 I would suggest getting the original TeX documents, perhaps switching fonts to a Type 1 font, and then outputting direct to PDF via PDFTex (<). Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend=81 in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: < =46TP Site: < PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 --============_-1270638913==_ma============-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Nov-1999 19:40:34-GMT,2788;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00753 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:40:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA32281; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:32:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:30:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA31958; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:30:57 -0600 From: chuck.davis@ihs.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: IHS To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, Christopher Uschan Message-ID: <8725681C.006A1E16.00@domino.ihs.com> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:25:07 -0700 Subject: [PDF] White lines in scanned images (continued) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Interesting topic and commentary. reviewing the Adobe support file: http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/b6be.htm - it states under solution 2: to use PDF writer setting with default resolution at 300 or 600... This is not a solution as we standardize at 300 dpi and we are getting those white lines as well. When viewing a PDF that has white lines, I interestingly find a corresponding black dash (about 1/8 of an inch in length) flush on the right edge of my document at the same level where the white lines cut thru the text. Of course, when printing this document, there are no white lines or black dashes. (maybe this is a form of a technical solution... joking) I remember seeing these lines in 3.0 as well if we were to scan at a resolution of 400 dpi. Does anyone who is not using capture to produce PDFs getting the same results with white lines ? _______ I have also noticed this problem with TIFF 300dpi images as input into capture. Is there a way to fix this using capture? I primarily notice them at fit width zoom and go away when you change the zoom level of the document. Are you getting the same results? Chuck Davis Information Handling Services ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Nov-1999 21:18:01-GMT,2670;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02151 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:17:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08571; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:02:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:00:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08156; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:59:59 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: asumarta@209.108.204.130 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:59:56 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: asumarta@totalint.com (Alex Sumarta) Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating PDF with custom transfer function Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >Alex, > >> Then, I output the files to PostScript and distilled the PostScript >> using the PrintOptimized setting in Distiller 4.0. > >After outputting to PostScript, have you checked whether the PostScript file >contains the custom functions you desire? There's two parts in your problem: >generating a correct PS file and then correctly distilling it into PDF... I >would first check the PostScript to see whether that is correct. Then start >worrying about distiller settings. > Thanks for the advice, David. My problem now is limited to - PDF with custom black generation - PDF with custom UCR In the PDf, both tags are still set as Default. I checked the Postscript files and I can't find "setblackgenerator" and "setundercoloremoval" operators. This means the custom setup I did under CMYK setup wasn't there. Does anybody know any other way to get this custom setting? Any other application? Thanks -Alex Sumarta ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Nov-1999 21:34:05-GMT,2158;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02397 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:34:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11332; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:28:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:27:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11111; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:27:06 -0600 Message-Id: <63DBC6BC8035D311AF570008C739748E01D58652@torex169.tor.allied.com> From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: Post to PDF listserve Subject: [PDF] Acro3 and Acro4 readers Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:16:33 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi - I know when you are installing Acrobat 4 that Adobe tells you to uninstall Acro 3 first. Is this restriction the same when it is only the Reader being installed? We have a thin-client application (browser based) where we are rolling out Acrobat 4 reader and plug-in over existing install of Acrobat 3 (mostly on NT). Can these users simply install Acrobat 4 reader without first uninstalling Acrobat 3 reader, as long, of course, as the installation locations are different? Also, will Netscape (v. 4.5x) be smart enough to use the Acrobat 4 plugin? Thanks for any help - Rebecca ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Nov-1999 21:35:30-GMT,2158;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02421 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:35:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11347; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:28:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:27:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11231; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:27:39 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating PDF with custom transfer function Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 21:27:24 -0000 Message-ID: <004101bf24af$e4db0960$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > In the PDf, both tags are still set as Default. I checked the > Postscript files and I can't find "setblackgenerator" and > "setundercoloremoval" operators. > This means the custom setup I did under CMYK setup wasn't there. Probably a typo, but you should be looking for setblackgeneration and setundercolorremoval (two consecutive r's). Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Nov-1999 21:40:28-GMT,1931;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02504 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:40:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12135; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:34:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:33:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA12021; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:33:27 -0600 From: chuck.davis@ihs.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: IHS To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8725681C.0074C3A2.00@domino.ihs.com> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:19:57 -0700 Subject: [PDF] What Acrobat Reader versions support PDF 1.3? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ What versions of Acrobat Reader support PDF v1.3? Are there specific advantages and disadvantages to using 1.3 over 1.2. Are there features in v1.3 that are not supported in older Acrobat Reader versions. I have been trying to stay with v1.2 for capability to older version of Acrobat Reader. Is this required? Thanks, Chuck Davis Information Handling Services ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Nov-1999 21:55:59-GMT,1914;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02685 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:55:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12129; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:34:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:33:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11996; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:33:25 -0600 From: chuck.davis@ihs.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: IHS To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8725681C.00753188.00@domino.ihs.com> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:24:22 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Extracting Text from PDF v1.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have been using ghostview v2.70 on windows to extract the text from PDF Normal files. This doesn't work on PDF Image+text or PDF v1.3. Are there additional options that I am missing with ghostview to support these tasks? Are there upgrades to ghostview coming or other tools that can accomplish these tasks? Thanks, Chuck Davis Information Handling Services ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Nov-1999 22:27:32-GMT,2711;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03075 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:27:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16599; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:19:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:17:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA16451; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:17:26 -0600 Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:22:11 -0800 Message-Id: <199911012222.OAA00784@aladdin.com> From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <8725681C.00753188.00@domino.ihs.com> (chuck.davis@ihs.com) Subject: Re: [PDF] Extracting Text from PDF v1.3 References: <8725681C.00753188.00@domino.ihs.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I have been using ghostview v2.70 on windows to extract the text from PDF > Normal files. This doesn't work on PDF Image+text or PDF v1.3. > > Are there additional options that I am missing with ghostview to support > these tasks? Are there upgrades to ghostview coming or other tools that > can accomplish these tasks? While I can't speak for the author of Ghostview for Unix (ghostview@cs.wisc.edu) or of GSview for Windows and OS/2 (gsview@ghostgum.com.au), I can tell you that no current release of Ghostscript, the PDF (and PostScript) interpreter underlying Ghostview and GSview, handles PDF 1.3: they only handle PDF 1.2. Aladdin Ghostscript 6.0, which is currently scheduled for release sometime in November, does handle PDF 1.3, with the exception of one or two advanced constructs that we will implement as soon as anyone needs them. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises | ghost@aladdin.com | http://www.aladdin.com | 203 Santa Margarita Ave. +1-650-322-0103 (9-12 M-F) | fax +1-650-322-1734 | Menlo Park, CA 94025 Open Source is the future of software: http://www.opensource.org ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Nov-1999 2:11:10-GMT,3016;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA05800 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 19:11:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA02999; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 20:03:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 20:00:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA02503; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 20:00:10 -0600 Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 18:00:02 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Mornini Message-Id: <199911020200.SAA19565@sun630mp.infomania.com> To: pdf-l@emrg.com, tmornini@sun630mp.infomania.com Subject: [PDF] ANNOUNCE - PDF in Prepress mailing list! Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am pleased to announce pdf-prepress-l. Earlier there were several messages on pdf-l indicating that people would prefer a separate mailing list for PDF use in prepress. I suggested that I could help, or perhaps run myself, a list for PDF use in high-end prepress environments. Response was very positive, so I decided to put back on my list manager hat, and set up a new list. The name of the list is pdf-prepress-l and it is located at InfoMania Printing and Prepress, a PostScript prepress house in Sacramento, CA. It is handled on a Sun server system, with the latest version of the free mailing list manager, Majordomo. To subscribe to the list, send e-mail to: In the body of the message, enter the text: subscribe pdf-prepress-l or subscribe pdf-prepress-d The second entry will get you a digested version of the list, which sends out a message once 200 lines of pdf-prepress-l accumulate. The list is setup to keep archives. I will put up a web interface to the archives later, but in the meantime they can be accessed as described in the Majordomo help file, which can be mailed to you by sending e-mail to: In the body of the message, enter the text: help and you will get a file describing all you need to know as a member of pdf-prepress-l and/or pdf-prepress-d. Thank you. I will send this announcement to pdf-l once a week to let newcomers know of this development. -- Tom Mornini -- InfoMania ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Nov-1999 2:46:09-GMT,2470;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA06419 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 19:46:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA06199; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 20:32:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 20:30:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA06013; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 20:30:50 -0600 Message-ID: <381E4CD2.598E@concentric.net> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 19:30:43 -0700 From: David X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] link to multiple actions? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I’m putting together a portfolio presentation in Acrobat 3.01 that I would like to put on a CD-ROM and send to potential clients. It will consist of around ten pages w/an image and 10(?) numbered buttons on each page (plus an exit button linked to file/quit) which are linked to each appropriate page/image for navigation throughout the presentation. I thought that it might be nice to include a sound when a button is pushed but each button is already configured as a link set to the ‘go to view’ action. Since a link to a sound action is an alternate choice in the same actions pop-up menu, is it possible to configure it so that mouse clicking a button plays a button pushing sound _and_ transports the viewer to the desired page. I guess that would be 2 link actions for one mouse click. If this effect is possible, how would I go about setting it up? Thanks very much ahead of time. David ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Nov-1999 3:40:31-GMT,2908;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA06777 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 20:40:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA10744; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 21:28:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 21:25:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA10589; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 21:25:58 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 22:25:56 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] link to multiple actions? From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Message-Id: <19991102032406.XJAI26488.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id VAA10585 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Yes, use Javascript, function one for the sound as part of the action, function two is the destination. -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." (613) 824-2243 EST PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com Articles of Interest: http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf ---------- > I thought that it might be nice to include a sound when a button is > pushed but each button is already configured as a link set to the ‘go to > view’ action. Since a link to a sound action is an alternate choice in > the same actions pop-up menu, is it possible to configure it so that > mouse clicking a button plays a button pushing sound _and_ transports > the viewer to the desired page. I guess that would be 2 link actions for > one mouse click. If this effect is possible, how would I go about > setting it up? > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Nov-1999 5:38:27-GMT,2050;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA07534 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 22:38:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA20065; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 23:29:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 23:27:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA19902; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 23:27:07 -0600 Message-Id: <199911020527.AAA30564@smtp4.mindspring.com> Subject: [PDF] Adding screen angle information to PostScript Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 00:29:15 -0500 x-sender: mikejahn@pop.mindspring.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: mikejahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Keith Ross wrote; >We tried setting screen angles on our rip but could not get it to work. > well, i would call ECRM. At Agfa, we introduce these sorts of things (in the senario you are describing) using a PPD. Ask ECRM how to access screen angle descriptions via a PPD - thats a good start. Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa Gevaert NV Septestraat 27 B-2640 Mortsel Belgium www.agfahome.com www.jahn.org 011 32 3 444 3921 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Nov-1999 9:12:35-GMT,2566;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA09165 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 02:12:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA02344; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 03:03:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 03:01:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA02113; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 03:01:40 -0600 Message-ID: <01dd01bf2510$fde5bf20$3c00a8c0@algonet.se> From: "Peter Reichel" To: Subject: [PDF] Problem with ( - char Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:02:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Return-Path: peter@originalab.se Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id DAA02109 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I have a problem with disapearing "(" characters when distilling with Acrobat 4 and reading in Reader 3. I have tested the following combinations: SAME PS-file distilled in Distiller 3: No problem in Reader 3. No missing "(" Distiller 4: No problem in Reader 4. No missing "(" Distiller 4: PROBLEM in Reader 3. MISSING "(" The ( character is the ONLY one missing!!! Have any of you seen this! Any fixes? Thanks in advance Peter Reichel peter@originalab.se -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originalab AB Box 2 79321 Leksand Sweden http://www.originalab.se -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Nov-1999 10:22:38-GMT,6368;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA09473 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 03:22:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA06700; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 04:07:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 04:04:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA06539; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 04:04:24 -0600 Message-ID: <297E9C38E03DD31187240090279334C602E8E3@smtp.cepr.org> From: Michaela Cahillane To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Tex to PDF font problems Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 09:52:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BF2518.09EA7E4E" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF2518.09EA7E4E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you very much for the suggestion, Leonard! I will try that! =20 Michaela=20 -----Original Message----- From: Leonard Rosenthol [mailto:leonardr@lazerware.com] Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 7:02 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Tex to PDF font problems At 5:25 PM +0000 11/1/99, Michaela Cahillane wrote:=20 I have several PDF files, which originated in TeX, that do not view = properly on the screen, but print correctly. Specifically, equations do not view properly--the most obvious examples of this include minus signs and asterisks, but which are displayed as underscores, but view correctly.=20 The problem is most likely that the creator of the PDF's was = using MetaFonts which end up converting to Type 3's when doing a DVI->PS (and = then a PS->PDF).=20 I would suggest getting the original TeX documents, perhaps switching fonts to a Type 1 font, and then outputting direct to PDF via PDFTex ().=20 Leonard=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- You've got a SmartFriend=81 in Pennsylvania=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com=20 America Online: MACgician=20 Web Site:=20 FTP Site:=20 PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF2518.09EA7E4E Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank=20 you very much for the suggestion, Leonard! I will try = that!
 
Michaela
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From: Leonard Rosenthol = [mailto:leonardr@lazerware.com]
Sent: Monday, November 01, = 1999 7:02=20 PM
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Subject: Re: [PDF] = Tex to PDF=20 font problems

At 5:25 PM +0000 11/1/99, Michaela Cahillane wrote:

I have several PDF files, which originated in = TeX, that do=20 not view properly on the screen, but print correctly. Specifically, = equations=20 do not view properly--the most obvious examples of this include minus = signs=20 and asterisks, but which are displayed as underscores, but view = correctly.=20


        The problem is most = likely that=20 the creator of the PDF's was using MetaFonts which end up converting = to Type=20 3's when doing a DVI->PS (and then a PS->PDF).


        I would suggest getting = the=20 original TeX documents, perhaps switching fonts to a Type 1 font, and = then=20 outputting direct to PDF via PDFTex ().=20



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------_=_NextPart_001_01BF2518.09EA7E4E-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Nov-1999 12:59:16-GMT,2895;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA10148 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 05:59:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA18371; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 06:52:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 06:50:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA18030; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 06:50:40 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991102075711.009af100@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 07:57:11 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] link to multiple actions? In-Reply-To: <381E4CD2.598E@concentric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >I’m putting together a portfolio presentation in Acrobat 3.01 that I >would like to put on a CD-ROM and send to potential clients. It will >consist of around ten pages w/an image and 10(?) numbered buttons on >each page (plus an exit button linked to file/quit) which are linked to >each appropriate page/image for navigation throughout the presentation. >I thought that it might be nice to include a sound when a button is >pushed You could set the page open action of each page to play a sound, but that's not so useful, since Acrobat won't play the sound until the page is completely finished drawing. I'd be nicer if it played the open action first, then went about its business; in that sense, page open is something of a misnomer. How about this instead - Use the form tool to make the buttons. Forms can have multiple actions. You can set the action to first play the sound, then: - Execute a menu item (View, Next Page, for example) if all of your pages are in one PDF, or - Open file if each page is a separate PDF Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Nov-1999 14:55:57-GMT,3443;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA10861 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 07:55:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA28526; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 08:46:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 08:44:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA28306; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 08:44:27 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 14:45:51 +0000 From: "Huw Johnson" To: Subject: [PDF] Bitmap images Distiller 3 vs 4 - the plot thickens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA28301 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Please forgive me everyone for coming back on this one. Thanks to Aandi Inston's offline help I can paint a fuller picture. Just to recap, when distilling a 600dpi monochrome bitmap eps: Distiller 3.01 No downsample for monochrome images Manual Compression CCITT Group 4 PDF image looks good Quite a box of tricks Info button says PDF image is 600dpi Distiller 4.0 No resample for monochrome images Compression CCITT Group 4 PDF image is degraded Quite a box of tricks Info button says PDF image is 300dpi Both distillers set to make 1800dpi Acrobat 3.0 ASCII format PDF. So my NT4 Distiller 4.0 0324 15:51 (Help > About in Distiller) is resampling monochrome images to 300dpi when resample isn't checked and [ /DownsampleMonoImages false ] is quite clearly there in the JobOptions file. The interesting thing is that we've discovered that Aandi's Acrobat 4.0 0312 08:06, when using the SAME monochrome image file and the SAME JobOptions file, works fine to produce a good 600dpi PDF image. We know that Distiller 4 Greyscale Bitmap Images Resample (Compression tab) never actually resamples (bug). Have I now found a bug on the monochrome images resample that is present in only certain builds of Distiller 4? If these are bugs, they render Acrobat 4, after all the marketing hype and upgrade cost, useless for my purposes. Any ideas appreciated, Huw Johnson Institute of Physics Publishing, UK ********************************************************************** IOP Publishing Ltd. Registered No 467514 England This e-mail message has been swept by MIMEsweeper using Sophos Sweep for the presence of computer viruses. ********************************************************************** ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Nov-1999 15:28:50-GMT,3895;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA11155 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 08:28:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA32536; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 09:22:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 09:21:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA32339; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 09:21:36 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 09:22:07 -0600 From: "Tiffany Cady" To: Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for November-1-99 [V2 #654] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA32334 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello everyone! I am having serious issues and I need some help! I am using Acrobat 4.0 and Capture 2.0 and a Scanjet 6350C scanner (goes up to 1200 dpi actual res) with an ADF on an NT 4 workstation. I need to scan b/w text documents (40 to 60 manuals of 200 to 1000 pgs each) to put on our intranet for employees to read or print. Many of the pages have complicated engineering drawings or tables or handwriting on them (all b/w) so they are not OCRable (or capturable - well it can, but it comes out all jibberish cause the PC can't recreate the complicated data correctly). I need a combination of speed and clarity and smallest file size, but a big problem is the documents I am scanning are not originals. The text on the pages I am scanning is dark, but it is 'blobby'. I would be happy if I could get an exact replica of the pages I am scanning. What I am getting is images far less clear than the original, (I was using 200 dpi). The edges of all the text looks blurry in the processed PDF file, and when printed the text is grey, not black. I tried scanning at 400 dpi, then processing in Capture set to Most Accurate instead of fastest and it took 5 minutes to complete one page!! Not acceptable! However, the output was closest to what I am hoping for :( ugh! I also am noticing the file sizes seem to be 10s of MBs per page! I have not combined a set of processed pages to create a complete PDF manual, so don't know how big the final product would be, but I can only imagine it would be far too large to manage over the web effectively. I don't know anything about the PS files, and Distiller I hear you all talking about, is there a solution for me there somewhere??? Any advice you can offer me would be greatly appreciated. If I don't find a solution to speed up production, with an acceptable online viewing result, I may be in the dog house - because I am the one who recommended we purchase and use Adobe Acrobat and the HP scanner to do this and it doesn't appear to be able to do an acceptable job!! Thanks so very much, Tiffany Cady Raster Supervisor Dallas Area Rapid Transit (214)749-2503 "Imagination is more important than knowledge." Albert Einstein ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Nov-1999 15:28:50-GMT,4174;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA11157 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 08:28:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA32106; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 09:20:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 09:19:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA31997; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 09:19:35 -0600 Message-ID: <004c01bf2545$5bc87c20$4401a8c0@NET> From: "Charles Beaudry" To: Subject: [PDF] Shortcuts to this situation? Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:17:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0049_01BF251B.71DE4500" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01BF251B.71DE4500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm currently updating a web site containing over 250 pdf files for = public viewing. Our client has determined that a introductory letter to = all the documents that was initially included is no longer valid and = must be removed from the existing pdf files. The process of creating the document is currently importing a MS word = file into PageMaker and exporting it as a PDF file.=20 My question is: Are there any software or shareware packages that will = delete the first few pages of a PDF file so that the outdated text can = be removed? Thank you for any help in this area. Charles Beaudry Principal Consultant The Ridgefield Group, Inc. http://www.ridgefieldgroup.com ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01BF251B.71DE4500 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm currently updating a web site = containing over=20 250 pdf files for public viewing. Our client has determined that a = introductory=20 letter to all the documents that was initially included is no longer = valid and=20 must be removed from the existing pdf files.
 
The process of creating the document is = currently=20 importing a MS word file into PageMaker and exporting it as a PDF file.=20
 
My question is: Are there any software = or shareware=20 packages that will delete the first few pages of a PDF file so that the = outdated=20 text can be removed?
 
Thank you for any help in this = area.
 
Charles Beaudry
Principal = Consultant
The=20 Ridgefield Group, Inc.
 
http://www.ridgefieldgroup.com
------=_NextPart_000_0049_01BF251B.71DE4500-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Nov-1999 15:52:03-GMT,2105;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA11459 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 08:52:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01644; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 09:40:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 09:39:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01532; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 09:39:34 -0600 From: "Thomas MacNamee" To: Subject: [PDF] Can I Convert .PST to .PDF? Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 15:40:40 -0000 Message-ID: <001901bf2548$9edf4a90$7e48a8c0@omegadomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Dear All, Does anyone know if it is possible to convert MS-Outlook mail archives (.pst files) into .pdf files, and if so how? Regards, Tom. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tom Mac Namee Modus Media International Tel: +353 45 527 100 Mobile: +353 87 2400608 email: thomas_macnamee@modusmedia.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Nov-1999 16:08:05-GMT,2064;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11769 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 09:08:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03654; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 09:57:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 09:54:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03393; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 09:54:52 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Can I Convert .PST to .PDF? Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 15:54:44 -0000 Message-ID: <002101bf254a$952e2460$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <001901bf2548$9edf4a90$7e48a8c0@omegadomain> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Does anyone know if it is possible to convert MS-Outlook mail > archives (.pst files) into .pdf files, > and if so how? Only in the same way as other "documents". Open and print to PDF. That essentially limits you to printing each folder separately to PDF. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Nov-1999 16:35:16-GMT,4210;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12265 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 09:35:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06875; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:24:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:23:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06729; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:23:24 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 11:23:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Shortcuts to this situation? From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3024386595_1052256_MIME_Part" Message-Id: <19991102162132.KDEU24158.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3024386595_1052256_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Open each in Acrobat, delete the first page. Save As. Try a test or two. -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." (613) 824-2243 EST PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com Articles of Interest: http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf ---------- My question is: Are there any software or shareware packages that will delete the first few pages of a PDF file so that the outdated text can be removed? --MS_Mac_OE_3024386595_1052256_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [PDF] Shortcuts to this situation? Open each in Acrobat, delete the first page. Save As.  Try a test or t= wo.

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Jason Belec  :)~
Digital Workflows Specialist,  
especially PDF

pdfworkflows@home.com          = ;"It's always easy, we just think too hard..."
(613) 824-2243 EST     
         
PDF Course Instructor          = ;Media Madness Productions
Algonquin College          &nb= sp;   Director of Digital Productions
New Media Corporate Training   www.mediamadness.com

Articles of Interest:
 http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html
 http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html
 http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf


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My question is: Are there any software or= shareware packages that will delete the first few pages of a PDF file so th= at the outdated text can be removed?
--MS_Mac_OE_3024386595_1052256_MIME_Part-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Nov-1999 16:58:26-GMT,2067;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12698 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 09:58:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA09704; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:51:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:49:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA09458; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:49:44 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19991102104945.006e0e3c@omnipress.com> X-Sender: uschan@omnipress.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 10:49:46 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Christopher Uschan Subject: [PDF] white lines in scanned docs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ just some FYI. I did some testing with a non Adobe capture PDF creating software (I am not sure if I am allowed to demote/promote other software, so I am not disclosing names on this list) The PDFs created did not render any white lines in the text when viewing with acrobat 4.0. So there is hope! Chris Uschan ------------ Digital Resources Manager - OMNIPRESS phone: 608-246-2600 fax: 608-246-4237 Learn more about us at http://www.omnipress.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Nov-1999 17:08:04-GMT,2656;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12894 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:08:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10456; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:58:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:56:05 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10206; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:56:04 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991102120233.009b6ac0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 12:02:33 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for November-1-99 [V2 #654] In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ using 200 dpi). The edges of all the text looks blurry in the processed PDF file, and when printed the text is grey, not black. Printed to a PS printer or non-PS? It may be that turning off text/image smoothing in Reader/Exchange will help with the on-screen view and possibly the printed version as well. Also, how are you scanning the images? As grayscale or 1-bit? I'd give 1-bit a shot if you haven't yet tried it. Another approach is also worth a go if you're not concerned with OCR. Scan, place the scans in a DTP app (or word processor, if no DTP app is available). Print to PS and distill to PDF, giving particular attention to the compression settings and saving as binary rather than ascii PDF. See if that results in smaller PDF files. I suspect it may. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Nov-1999 21:41:21-GMT,4649;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16735 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 14:41:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA04968; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 15:31:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 15:25:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA04409; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 15:25:09 -0600 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 13:24:50 -0800 Subject: [PDF] Re: [ctp-q] RE: Embedded font discussion From: Rich Sprague To: CC: , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > From: "Brian Johns" > I'm still playing devil's advocate and two thoughts come to mind about > whether or not fonts converted to curves violate the font designer's > copyright protections. > > 1) Keep the "big picture" in mind where the end result is a printed piece of > paper: How does the rendering of a font's letter shapes in a ripped TIFF/IT > file differ from the rendering of a font's outlined vectors (not embedded > fonts) in a PDF file? If outlined fonts in a PDF are a violation of the font > creator's rights, then isn't a RIPPED version also a violation? Does this > mean anyone accepting a TIFF/IT file needs to own the fonts used to create > the raster image of the font to satisfy the legal requirements? Good question. > If not, I > fail to see the difference between vector outlines of a font and rasterized > pixels of a font. Both can be edited using copy-and-paste techniques or in > the case of the rasterized version, letters can be cloned and/or airbrushed > to correct mispellings, etc. (Not practical, but possible.) In neither case > could you add a letter that didn't already appear on the page. Is there a > distinction between rasterized pixels and vector outlines in the font > designer's copyrights? Another good question. > 2) If the concept of converting embedded fonts to vector outlines at the > time the .EPS or .PS file is opened (or interpreted) constitutes an > infringement of a designer's copyright protections, how is it Corel hasn't > been forced to remove this option over the past several versions of > CorelDRAW? I'd imagine the legal department at Corel is WELL versed in > copyright protections after the flap a couple of years ago when an artist > won first place in a Corel contest for a "plagerized" piece of artwork. (Or > was that Corel Magazine instead of Corel?) The world is full of cheats. There are also a lot of nice, upstanding citizens, too. How would a teacher ever know whether his student really did the term paper himself? For me, all I want to do is process a customer's file...be it to film or our press. I'm not out to steal from anyone for my use or financial gain. THIS MORNING, DISTILLER WOULDN'T LET ME EMBED HELVETICA. (SHOUTING INTENDED). The customer was using Acrobat 4 on a Windows NT. And, to make matters worse, the Base 14 fonts on this chap's machine and with Acrobat 4, showed the old Base 14 fonts, instead of what they should be. Will it ever get easy/easier? Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Nov-1999 23:06:05-GMT,2244;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA17926 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:06:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA14906; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:55:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:53:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14565; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:53:11 -0600 Message-ID: <381F6ADD.2068C3DC@monkscopyshop.com> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 17:52:58 -0500 From: larry kendall Organization: monkscopyshop.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: ctp-q@ctpp.com, pdf-prepress-l@infomania.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: [ctp-q] RE: Embedded font discussion References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Rich/Brian, Maybe we shouldn't read the newspaper if we haven't purchased a license to "optically process" the fonts used in printing it. :_) > __________________________________________________ > > > From: "Brian Johns" > > > I'm still playing devil's advocate and two thoughts come to mind about > > whether or not fonts converted to curves violate the font designer's > > copyright protections. > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Nov-1999 23:31:59-GMT,2162;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18185 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:31:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA17580; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 17:20:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 17:18:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA17456; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 17:18:57 -0600 Message-ID: <006d01bf2588$c7e4bde0$466564c8@mabrahamson> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <381F6ADD.2068C3DC@monkscopyshop.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: [ctp-q] RE: Embedded font discussion Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 18:19:58 -0500 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > Maybe we shouldn't read the newspaper if we haven't purchased a license to > "optically process" the fonts used in printing it. :_) > Don't give them any ideas! Pretty soon we'll be paying for the right to think about what the fonts in our PDFs are going to look like. :) Mike ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Nov-1999 23:42:04-GMT,2169;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18246 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:42:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA19198; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 17:36:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 17:34:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA19063; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 17:34:35 -0600 From: myke@bmts.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <006d01bf2588$c7e4bde0$466564c8@mabrahamson> References: <381F6ADD.2068C3DC@monkscopyshop.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 18:34:28 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Reader question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id RAA19059 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have a client who wants to provide a document they've published in a pdf form on a CD as an alternative to a traditional print/hard copy. If we provide the file and the Reader on a CD, is there anyway for users to edit text within the document? Or is that stricly done in Acrobat itself? Any thoughts on distribution, experiences? Myke New Media Consultation RR # 1 Priceville, ON Canada N0C 1K0 p. 519-369-2908 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Nov-1999 23:47:34-GMT,3402;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18333 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:47:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA19791; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 17:41:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 17:39:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA19543; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 17:39:14 -0600 Message-Id: <199911022339.RAA19537@everglades.binc.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 15:48:53 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes From: "Todd Donahue" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I know this is a week old post, but, better late than never.... > ....However, part of my goal is standardizing a workflow > around various applications, since not all of our current customers use MS > Word, and many potential customers also refuse to adopt a Microsoft program. > We are at the mercy of our customers as far as that goes. My idea was to > discover and develop a standard workflow for every customer regardless of > their source application in order to streamline both our documentation and > support issues associated with creating PDF files. Since every application > in Windows has a File>Print option, that turned out to be the easiest way to > standardize our workflow and PDFMaker was abandoned outright. This also..... Have you tried EZ-PDF? It is available for Windows 9X/NT & Mac. It creates printers that make PDF files when print to them. You have complete control over the type of PDF file created. You can create password protected, pre-configured EZ-PDF printers and distribute them to your users that own EZ-PDF. (We have flexible cost-efficient multiple copy licensing). You can download a free 30 day trial copy from our web site at: http://www.acquiredknowledge.com > ...My specific problem is with the way Distiller 4 does not correctly output > page orientation from custom page sizes in Microsoft Word. This seems a... I don't think this is a Distiller problem, rather a PS driver/Word problem. I've always observed Distiller to create a proper page size from the PS code sent to it. Most likely the driver isn't sending Distiller the proper page size... I would have to look at the PS file that is being generated by the driver. -- Todd Donahue Acquired Knowledge Inc. http://www.acquiredknowledge.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Nov-1999 23:47:34-GMT,2213;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18335 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:47:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA19787; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 17:41:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 17:39:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA19595; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 17:39:33 -0600 Message-ID: <381F78A4.B62BBCBE@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 19:49:56 -0400 From: Bryan Guignard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: [ctp-q] RE: Embedded font discussion References: <381F6ADD.2068C3DC@monkscopyshop.com> <006d01bf2588$c7e4bde0$466564c8@mabrahamson> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > > Maybe we shouldn't read the newspaper if we haven't purchased a license to > > "optically process" the fonts used in printing it. :_) > > > > Don't give them any ideas! Pretty soon we'll be paying for the right to > think about what the fonts in our PDFs are going to look like. :) What's next? A font dongle for word processors that tabulates your keystrokes and automatically deactivates your font once you've typed in so many characters?!?! Bryan ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Nov-1999 23:54:28-GMT,2771;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18409 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:54:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA20677; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 17:48:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 17:46:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA20520; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 17:46:53 -0600 Message-ID: <381F7A5E.97BF28E7@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 19:57:18 -0400 From: Bryan Guignard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Reader question References: <381F6ADD.2068C3DC@monkscopyshop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Acrobat Reader is only a Reader, as its name implies. You need the full commercial version of Acrobat to edit PDF files. Bryan Guignard myke@bmts.com wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > I have a client who wants to provide a document they've published in a pdf form on a CD as an alternative to a traditional print/hard copy. If we provide the file and the Reader on a CD, is there anyway for users to edit text within the document? Or is that stricly done in Acrobat itself? Any thoughts on distribution, experiences? > > Myke > > New Media Consultation > RR # 1 Priceville, ON Canada N0C 1K0 > p. 519-369-2908 > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ˙Ř˙ŕ ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Nov-1999 23:57:40-GMT,2397;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18448 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:57:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA21304; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 17:52:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 17:51:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA21084; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 17:51:28 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: [ctp-q] RE: Embedded font discussion Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 23:51:24 -0000 Message-ID: <003601bf258d$2c4b1dc0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <381F78A4.B62BBCBE@nbnet.nb.ca> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > What's next? A font dongle for word processors that tabulates > your keystrokes > and automatically deactivates > your font once you've typed in so many characters?!?! There are fonts with dongles - mostly far Eastern fonts which take man years to create. Actually, this is not dissimilar to how font foundries used to work. You'd buy type - so many 10 point "a", and so many 12 point "comma" in Times Roman... Once your book was set you'd have to buy more type. Given this, is it surprising that font foundries aren't completely comfortable with just selling a font license outright... Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 0:49:29-GMT,4200;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA18915 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 17:49:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA25844; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 18:41:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 18:38:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA25562; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 18:38:28 -0600 Message-ID: <381F8671.DBBE803B@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 20:48:49 -0400 From: Bryan Guignard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: [ctp-q] RE: Embedded font discussion References: <003601bf258d$2c4b1dc0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > What's next? A font dongle for word processors that tabulates > > your keystrokes > > and automatically deactivates > > your font once you've typed in so many characters?!?! > > There are fonts with dongles - mostly far Eastern fonts which > take man years to create. > > Actually, this is not dissimilar to how font foundries used > to work. You'd buy type - so many 10 point "a", and so many > 12 point "comma" in Times Roman... Once your book was set you'd > have to buy more type. Given this, is it surprising that > font foundries aren't completely comfortable with just selling > a font license outright... I hear ya Aandi. However, as you yourself know, things evolve (thankfully for the better in most cases), and whatever is associated with it needs to adapt accordingly. Fonts (typefaces) are no longer the rare luxury of the elite they once were. Understandably the reality of days gone by necessitated appropriate licensing agreements. The reality of the present does not blend well with remnants of the past (rigid licensing), as Distiller 4 is showing all of us. Font creators need a reality check. They need licensing policies that are harmonized with the current trends. DTP and print shops have specific font needs, my aunt Bertha who types out papers for university students, and nothing else, has specific requirements, webmasters have specific requirements, multimedia publications, PDF etc., etc. In my opinion this is not a technical issue but an ideoligical one. We presently have modern fonts (technology) being blended with an archaic licensing scheme (ideology). Some of todays font licensing terminology would have served well in the days of Gutenburg (I hope I spelled his name right) and metal type. That is hardly what is needed today. IMHO if modern licensing ideology would have been developed along with modern font technology I feel this present mess wouldn't even exist. It all comes across to me as "putting new wine into old wineskins". Maybe it's time to put the focus on outdated ideology, which from my point of view is what is crippling our modern technology, cause the moment you take licensing out of the equation, everything works fine. Now I'm not implying that we do away with licensing, but it needs to make a quantum leap into the present. I know I'm saying a lot without offering any solutions, but right now I'm as overwhelmed (and freaking out) by the present situation as everyone else. Once my feet land on the ground again I might have more to offer. Bryan ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 2:28:09-GMT,2091;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA19855 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 19:28:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA01460; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 20:18:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 20:14:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA01231; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 20:14:52 -0600 Message-ID: <524A333ECC0AD3119FC300805F851389535842@perm02.woodside.com.au> From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] link to multiple actions? Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 10:14:43 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Steve, what code/action would you use to activate or play the sound? Been thinking of ways to accomplish this task my self. Cheers, Dave......... ------------------ > How about this instead - > > Use the form tool to make the buttons. Forms can have multiple actions. > You can set the action to first play the sound, then: > > - Execute a menu item (View, Next Page, for example) if all of your pages > are in one PDF, or > > - Open file if each page is a separate PDF > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 5:27:56-GMT,3649;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA21344 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 22:27:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA16724; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 23:17:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 2 Nov 1999 23:14:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA16467; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 23:14:44 -0600 Message-ID: <001b01bf25ba$e9018940$214315a5@magix.com.sg> From: "Anthony Cheng" To: "PDF" Subject: [PDF] Indexing Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:18:49 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01BF25FD.F6FA0FC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BF25FD.F6FA0FC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! In Acrobat Catalog, I could only exclude words and not include. In my case, the number words that I want to exclude is more than those = that I wanna include. It will take a long time & many tedious work if I am goin use Acrobat = Catalog to do index my files. I know of an easier way to do this, which is the stoplist method. I read it from the Adobe site. But still the number of stoplist word i can have is up to 500 words = only. Can anyone help? SanD ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BF25FD.F6FA0FC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BF25FD.F6FA0FC0-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 6:40:42-GMT,2501;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA21846 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 23:40:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA23318; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 00:34:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 00:32:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA23190; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 00:32:21 -0600 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 07:28:30 +0100 To: PDF List Posting From: Max Wyss Subject: [PDF] Printing problems Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We have a rather complex form, consisting essentially only of fields. Some of the fields contain icons with text of various sizes. In a few cases, the contents of the fields is rotated by 90 degrees. Right now, my only reliable printing possibility is a Windoze NT box with Distiller set up as printer. When I use the JavaScript printing function (this.print(false, 0, 5) ) for the six first pages of the doucment, The printing fails, and the error message is not saying much at all. When I print manually, the document prints all right, except for the page which is set up in the same script in which I invoke the print command. Did I forget something, or is such a problem known? Any ideas and tips are highly appreciated. Thanks a lot. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Building Bridges for Information ] ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 11:58:03-GMT,2952;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA23532 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 04:58:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA13762; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 05:48:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 05:46:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA13618; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 05:46:21 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 11:43:12 +0000 From: "Huw Johnson" To: Subject: [PDF] Bitmap images Distiller 3 vs 4 - the Adobe verdict Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id FAA13613 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I thought I'd report back my findings - after several weeks on hold to Adobe Customer Support here in the UK, I got through! Apologies if you all know this, but I've had no response from the list. Adobe say that, yes, Distiller 4 has a recognised bugs in relation to the Compression tab: * Monochrome images. Resampling to 300dpi always occurs even if you have no resampling set. (This on some builds of v4 at least.) * Greyscale images. Resampling never occurs, whatever you set. That's a show-stopper for me. In fact I'm surprised it isn't a show-stopper for most users. We have laws about products and fitness for the purpose for which they are sold. But I don't suppose anyone will sue. So, I guess the question is now: does anyone know when a fixed version will be available here in the UK? Adobe UK Customer Support don't. It's all a bit depressing really. Huw Johnson Institute of Physics Publishing, UK ********************************************************************** IOP Publishing Ltd. Registered No 467514 England This e-mail message has been swept by MIMEsweeper using Sophos Sweep for the presence of computer viruses. ********************************************************************** ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 12:15:46-GMT,3013;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA23643 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 05:15:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA15243; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 06:05:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 06:04:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA15136; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 06:04:33 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 07:04:31 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing problems From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991103120241.FVSG24158.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Max, > > Right now, my only reliable printing possibility is a Windoze NT box with > Distiller set up as printer. > > When I use the JavaScript printing function (this.print(false, 0, 5) ) for > the six first pages of the doucment, The printing fails, and the error > message is not saying much at all. > > When I print manually, the document prints all right, except for the page > which is set up in the same script in which I invoke the print command. > > Did I forget something, or is such a problem known? It sounds like the Javascript you implemented is causing the fustration. My usual approach to these issues is to replicate the offending page for the number of elements contained. Once for every image, once for every link/javascript, etc. Then try each page. Once you isolate the culprit, its usually easy to fix. -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." (613) 824-2243 EST PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com Articles of Interest: http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf ---------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 12:19:30-GMT,1801;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA23654 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 05:19:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA15961; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 06:13:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 06:12:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA15708; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 06:12:01 -0600 Message-ID: <7F94B321EA68D21185B20060977260C30297E9@NTSERVER1> From: Neil Swallow To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Trapping on PDF Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:10:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Does anyone know of any PDF trapping software available for a Unix (irix) platform? I know that both Prinnergy and apergy exist to do just this (although not Unix) but they are both expensive and proprietary systems. Cheers Neil ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 13:14:58-GMT,3454;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA23833 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 06:14:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA20268; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 07:07:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 07:06:05 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA20065; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 07:06:03 -0600 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 05:05:49 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Bitmap images Distiller 3 vs 4 - the Adobe verdict From: Rich Sprague To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > From: "Huw Johnson" > I thought I'd report back my findings - after several weeks on hold to Adobe > Customer Support here in the UK, I got through! Apologies if you all know > this, but I've had no response from the list. > > Adobe say that, yes, Distiller 4 has a recognised bugs in relation to the > Compression tab: This has been an ongoing -- and acknowledged -- issue for sometime. It has been reported on all the lists, discussion is available in the archives, and a tech doc is available on Adobe's web site. > * Monochrome images. Resampling to 300dpi always occurs even if you have no > resampling set. (This on some builds of v4 at least.) > * Greyscale images. Resampling never occurs, whatever you set. > > That's a show-stopper for me. In fact I'm surprised it isn't a show-stopper > for most users. We have laws about products and fitness for the purpose for > which they are sold. But I don't suppose anyone will sue. It's a bug. Software has bugs. Most are fixed, eventually. > So, I guess the question is now: does anyone know when a fixed version will be > available here in the UK? Adobe UK Customer Support don't. The upcoming maintenance release (4.05) is supposed to fix the compression problems. The actual release date hasn't been made public, but I wouldn't think it's too far away. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 13:43:48-GMT,2368;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA23935 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 06:43:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA22796; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 07:36:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 07:34:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA22644; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 07:34:59 -0600 Message-ID: <38203C73.902E5B88@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 09:45:23 -0400 From: Bryan Guignard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing problems References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > We have a rather complex form, consisting essentially only of fields. Some > of the fields contain icons with text of various sizes. In a few cases, the > contents of the fields is rotated by 90 degrees. Is this 90 degree rotation a problem or a desired effect? Are you using PDF 1.2 or 1.3? > Did I forget something, or is such a problem known? The only time I've ever seen something that resembles this is when I tried combining PDF 1.2 pages with form fields, with PDF 1.3 pages with form fields. For some reason (unknown to me) this causes some text fields to rotate 90 degrees, some won't even appear at all unless I use the form tool to refresh them, and printing is very erratic. Hope this helps. Bryan Guignard ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 14:18:48-GMT,4086;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA24143 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 07:18:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA26404; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 08:12:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 08:10:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26054; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 08:10:17 -0600 Message-ID: <382044B3.97455CF6@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 10:20:35 -0400 From: Bryan Guignard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Bitmap images Distiller 3 vs 4 - the Adobe verdict References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I thought I'd report back my findings - after several weeks on hold to Adobe Customer Support here in the UK, I got through! Apologies if you all know this, but I've had no response from the list. > > Adobe say that, yes, Distiller 4 has a recognised bugs in relation to the Compression tab: > > * Monochrome images. Resampling to 300dpi always occurs even if you have no resampling set. (This on some builds of v4 at least.) > * Greyscale images. Resampling never occurs, whatever you set. > > That's a show-stopper for me. In fact I'm surprised it isn't a show-stopper for most users. I can't speak for everyone who uses Acrobat, but I know for myself that such things are rarely "show stoppers". The main reason being that Acrobat is king of workarounds. If method A doesn't work there are usually methods B, C, & D that can get the job done. In my case this can be translated to using Quite a Box of Tricks to do the required compression/resampling after the PDF is created, or using a graphics application or utility to compress/resample the image before the PDF is created. In a moment of desperation I once used a screen shot to convert a high res, 300 dpi image to a half scale low res 72 dpi image. Of course some methods are more efficient than others, it depends on your situation. As for Adobe being able to sell products like this (and this is only my opinion)...what can I say...when you provide enough workarounds to allow people to get the job done, people will usually be quite forgiving. Fact of the matter is, by hook or by crook, Acrobat/PDF almost always gets the job done, not to mention that Acrobat's place in computerdom is an extremely difficult one. Acrobat has an uncanny ability of beating the odds. Now I'm not saying that I don't share your frustration, I do. But my options are 1) to find a suitable workaround, get the job done, and get some sleep at night. Or 2) allow it to influence me as a "show stopper" which soon becomes a productivity stopper, which will follow me home and become a sleep stopper. As I said, I can only speak for myself. Your situation may be different. Bottom line is (and it's not always graceful) Acrobat has survived and flourished where nearly all others have failed because it is flexible enough to get the job done 99% of the time. Perhaps this is part of the reason why people are so tolerant of Adobe's shortcomings? Bryan Guignard ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 14:26:58-GMT,1847;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA24196 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 07:26:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA26744; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 08:15:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 08:14:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26623; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 08:14:26 -0600 Message-ID: <3820433B.745D3116@wt.net> Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 08:14:19 -0600 From: Rick Bishop X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Autocad to PDF - color to Black & White References: <199911020200.UAA02539@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is it possible to set distiller or pdf writer to black and white only when running plots from Autocad 2000 without setting up a pen assignment table inside Autocad? Thanks, Rick Bishop Houston ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 14:27:33-GMT,3451;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA24204 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 07:27:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA27173; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 08:20:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 08:19:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA27038; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 08:19:05 -0600 Message-ID: <000d01bf2606$b88beb60$466564c8@mabrahamson> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <199911022339.RAA19537@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 09:21:29 -0500 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Have you tried EZ-PDF? It is available for Windows 9X/NT & Mac. It creates > printers that make PDF files when print to them. You have complete control > over the type of PDF file created. You can create password protected, > pre-configured EZ-PDF printers and distribute them to your users that own > EZ-PDF. (We have flexible cost-efficient multiple copy licensing). You can > download a free 30 day trial copy from our web site at: > > http://www.acquiredknowledge.com I will check it out. > I don't think this is a Distiller problem, rather a PS driver/Word problem. > I've always observed Distiller to create a proper page size from the PS code > sent to it. Most likely the driver isn't sending Distiller the proper page > size... I would have to look at the PS file that is being generated by the > driver. I first tested this with the AdobePS driver that came with Acrobat 4. I then upgraded to AdobePS 4.3.1 and the problem persisted. Although I am probably misguided in my attempt to attribute the problem directly to Distiller, it still seems obvious to me that Acrobat is the problem here in one way or another. After all, the drivers that Adobe puts out for the Distiller printer are what generate the PS file. Perhaps it is unfair to put the blame on Distiller specifically, but I don't think it unreasonable to scrutinize the Distiller process - what good is Distiller without a reliable print driver? This is not to say Microsoft is completely innocent, but their objective is not to create PDF files from Word documents. That onus falls on Adobe. Thanks for your input, Mike Abrahamson ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 14:48:44-GMT,3923;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA24361 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 07:48:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA29780; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 08:42:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 08:40:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29406; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 08:40:56 -0600 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 06:40:38 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes From: Rich Sprague To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000d01bf2606$b88beb60$466564c8@mabrahamson> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > From: "Michael Abrahamson" >> I don't think this is a Distiller problem, rather a PS driver/Word >> problem. >> >> I've always observed Distiller to create a proper page size from the PS >> code sent to it. Most likely the driver isn't sending Distiller the proper >> page size... I would have to look at the PS file that is being generated by >> the driver. > > I first tested this with the AdobePS driver that came with Acrobat 4. I > then upgraded to AdobePS 4.3.1 and the problem persisted. Although I am > probably misguided in my attempt to attribute the problem directly to > Distiller, it still seems obvious to me that Acrobat is the problem here in > one way or another. After all, the drivers that Adobe puts out for the > Distiller printer are what generate the PS file. Perhaps it is unfair to > put the blame on Distiller specifically, but I don't think it unreasonable > to scrutinize the Distiller process - what good is Distiller without a > reliable print driver? This is not to say Microsoft is completely innocent, > but their objective is not to create PDF files from Word documents. That > onus falls on Adobe. I'm going to jump in here. Ready or not, here I come. I assume this thread is about problems with custom page sizes printing from Microsoft Word files. If not, sorry. I've had problems creating anything but standard 8 1/2 x 11, portrait, PDFs from Microsoft Word. On the PC, you really have to jockey around and as I recall (it was a while ago), go in and create some sort of custom page size and layout in the print driver, change word settings, etc. My experience is that in spite of the PS driver used, Word will do it's own thing...including substitute Microsoft fonts. I don't think Microsoft has much desire to easily interface with Acrobat. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 15:06:08-GMT,3700;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA24530 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 08:06:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA31302; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 08:57:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 08:55:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA31106; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 08:55:35 -0600 Message-Id: <199911031455.JAA00188@smtp7.atl.mindspring.net> Subject: [PDF] Acrobat and monochrome compression test results Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 09:57:49 -0500 x-sender: mikejahn@pop.mindspring.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: mikejahn To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Huw Johnson posted; <-- snip --> >We know that Distiller 4 Greyscale Bitmap Images Resample (Compression >tab) never actually resamples (bug). > >Have I now found a bug on the monochrome images resample that is present >in only certain builds of Distiller 4? > >If these are bugs, they render Acrobat 4, after all the marketing hype and >upgrade cost, useless for my purposes. > >Any ideas appreciated, > >Huw Johnson >Institute of Physics Publishing, UK jahn here.... Acrobat 4.0 is buggy. it may indeed be problematic for you to switch due to this bug or other bugs due to other bugs. I am using Acrobat 4.0.5 d1. (on Macintosh) to see if Adobe has worked on this specific problem, I just made three small 1 bit tiff files. 600, 1200, and 2400 ppi files in Adobe Photoshop version 5.5 (i created the original in greyscale mode, place a small tint patch at 25%, 50% and 75% grey and then changed the mode to bitmap, using the halftone setting with 150 line screen at 90 degree screen angle) i then placed them in an Illustrator document. i then saved as eps and Distilled (using Distiller version 4.0.5 d1) with no monochrome downsampling and Group4 compression http://www.jahn.org/bitmap/Acro4.pdf PitStop inspector reports each image file as being the resolution i had intended (see my small annotations in this PDF) also saved the Adobe Illustrator file directly to PDF http://www.jahn.org/bitmap/AI.pdf the tiff files also report perfectly. I ran the same eps thru Distiller 4.0.5 d1 with monochrome downsampling (using the Average Downsampling option) set to 600 ppi. http://www.jahn.org/bitmap/Acro4Down.pdf PitStop inspector reports each image file as being the new resolution i had entered (they are all now 600 ppi) it is important to note that this "changes" both the 1200 and 2400 bitmaps in such a way that if these files are output to film that the tint patches will no longer read at the tints that they were intened to be - something to be aware of. hope this info is of some help to you. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 16:36:49-GMT,5313;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25750 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 09:36:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA07923; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 10:27:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 10:24:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07654; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 10:24:49 -0600 Message-ID: <001501bf2617$fa345460$466564c8@mabrahamson> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:25:01 -0500 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I don't think Microsoft has much desire to easily interface with Acrobat. Let me first avail myself of any Microsoft sympathies. I'm not a Redmond groupie. Having said that, isn't it the responsibility of Adobe to fulfill its claims that "regardless of fonts, layout, etc, etc...", as their extensive marketing adamantly suggests, PDF files should be reliable? Here is a direct box quote (from the Acrobat 4 packaging): "Convert any document, no matter what application was used to create it, to PDF, which faithfully preserves the original fonts, colors, images, and layout." also... "Transfer PDF files to service bureaus and printers electronically. PDF files contain all the fonts, formatting, and image data necessary to print predictably." These are two of the claims printed directly on the packaging of Acrobat 4 for Windows. While Microsoft can certainly be held accountable for not cooperating with various developers/vendors, etc., it is not up to them to develop Acrobat/PDF solutions and market them as reliable and predictable. I applaud Adobe for creating such a robust and reworkable application such as Acrobat. I love its potential and to an extent even its real world applicability. Unfortunately this applicability seems limited to the array of experts who spend their time on and owe their livelihood to the product itself. For the rest of us poor saps who are simply trying to develop solutions for everyday customers, it is not easy to swallow the numerous inevitable "work-arounds" that may or may not work for every customer. We don't have the time or resources to support creating work-arounds for every piece of software that doesn't perform as expected so frequently. We know bugs exist, and we capitulate to the developers who work so hard at finding and fixing them. I think what you do is extremely valuable and underrated and applaud you for your efforts overall. But please don't come to me extolling the tremendous benefits of a product with great fervor and then explain away the bugs with fifty other work-arounds for a supposedly simple action that doesn't work as advertised. And certainly don't turn around and blame your competitor for not making it easier on you. Creating a PDF file from Word is not an obscure feature of Acrobat and Distiller - so why should such a primary feature have to have so many work-arounds? Rich, I apologize for directing my frustration in your direction. You have been the utmost advocate for sincere explanation and have provided huge amounts of valuable support and help for many of us on the list. I thank you fervently for your efforts. While I do not expect my soap-boxing to affect any positive response, I feel I must always raise the flag for the everyday user. My customers are struggling everyday with what we consider the most basic concepts and technologies. If technology is a tool, then it should be available to everyone who has the desire to learn. It shouldn't require every user to take a course on PostScript or fonts or device settings or quantum physics. (OK, an unnecessary jab) Acrobat is a great product, but it has more potential than practicality right now. I hope Adobe finds a way to overcome the exhaustive shortfalls of the program. I will continue to support it with great expectations, I only hope the defensive attitude does not suffocate the tremendous potential that can be realized with greater effort. Mike Abrahamson Liturgical Publications ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 16:49:21-GMT,3378;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25939 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 09:49:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA09293; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 10:40:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 10:38:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA09097; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 10:38:41 -0600 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 08:38:26 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes From: Rich Sprague To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001501bf2617$fa345460$466564c8@mabrahamson> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > From: "Michael Abrahamson" > For the rest of us poor saps who are simply trying to develop > solutions for everyday customers, it is not easy to swallow the numerous > inevitable "work-arounds" that may or may not work for every customer. I consider myself one of those poor *saps*...much of my day is spent on workarounds, especially with the doggone fonts issues which I will harp on until my harp plays no more. > While I do not expect my soap-boxing to affect any positive response, I feel > I must always raise the flag for the everyday user. There are those that complain just to hear themselves speak (look at our politicians ), or have nothing better to do. Your criticisms are valid and will help effect change. > It shouldn't require every user to > take a course on PostScript or fonts or device settings or quantum physics. I love the posts which suggest I edit PS code. Neither do I have the time, expertise or inclination to edit PS code to send a print job to our Heidelberg Quickmaster DI or to our rips. > Acrobat is a great product, but it has more > potential than practicality right now. It is a great product and -- at least in a printing workflow -- it takes more work than it should to make it function correctly. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 16:56:52-GMT,2116;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26036 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 09:56:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10422; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 10:49:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 10:48:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10287; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 10:48:22 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991103115453.009c1a50@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 11:54:53 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] link to multiple actions? In-Reply-To: <524A333ECC0AD3119FC300805F851389535842@perm02.woodside.com .au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >what code/action would you use to activate or play the sound? > Sound is one of the action options for mouseup/down/over/slightly_to_one_side_and_wiggling_horizontally/whatever actions in forms. As simple as that. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 17:12:58-GMT,3129;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26263 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 10:12:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11517; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 10:58:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 10:57:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA11420; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 10:57:25 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991103120355.009c9740@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 12:03:55 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes In-Reply-To: <000d01bf2606$b88beb60$466564c8@mabrahamson> References: <199911022339.RAA19537@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >I first tested this with the AdobePS driver that came with Acrobat 4. I >then upgraded to AdobePS 4.3.1 and the problem persisted. Although I am >probably misguided in my attempt to attribute the problem directly to >Distiller, it still seems obvious to me that Acrobat is the problem here in >one way or another. But to be fair, you have to mention that the problem has remained constant, and Word has remained a constant factor in the equation as well. >reliable print driver? This is not to say Microsoft is completely innocent, >but their objective is not to create PDF files from Word documents. That >onus falls on Adobe. > And they do it rather well, given correct PS to begin with. It appears that Word allows you to select a custom page size whether or not the printer driver purports to support such a thing. If Word promises features the printer driver specifically doesn't offer, I'd say that it's up to Word to deliver. Clearly, it doesn't. If I as a manufacturer offer you widgets in your choice of white or black, you should probably not advertise the availability of blue, green and red widgets to your customers unless you have a few cans of paint handy. ,-) Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 17:52:04-GMT,3925;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26929 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 10:52:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16465; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:44:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:42:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA16214; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:42:48 -0600 Message-ID: <002d01bf2623$2b61be00$466564c8@mabrahamson> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <199911022339.RAA19537@everglades.binc.net> <3.0.5.32.19991103120355.009c9740@pop.iglou.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:45:08 -0500 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > But to be fair, you have to mention that the problem has remained constant, > and Word has remained a constant factor in the equation as well. Good point. Distiller has also remained a constant. So based on that point alone there is no resolution. Not to be difficult, just trying to be logical and fair. Word has its many flaws, but it performs its most basic functions reliably in almost every case. I can create a document and print it. Very basic. Creating a PDF file (whether it be through PDFWriter or from a PS file generated by the AdobePS print driver and Distilled into PDF) is Acrobat's primary function. This it should perform reliably in most cases. I'm not looking for perfection of obscure features - just an acknowledgement of Acrobat's failure to reliably perform its primary function. If Acrobat/Distiller, etc. cannot accurately produce PDF files from Word-generated PS files then Adobe should note that as an incompatibility or work feverishly to resolve the problem. I expect this is something that they will do upon receiving repeated "bug" reports from frustrated customers who are serious about their commitment to adopting Acrobat and PDF as a standard but cannot practically do so given its current state of "disarray." (strong terms, but accurate I think) > And they do it rather well, given correct PS to begin with. It appears > that Word allows you to select a custom page size whether or not the > printer driver purports to support such a thing. If Word promises features > the printer driver specifically doesn't offer, I'd say that it's up to Word > to deliver. Clearly, it doesn't. The AdobePS driver does offer custom page sizes. I have tried to set these as well to match the desired output from my custom pages in Word. None of the settings I made to the AdobePS driver had any affect on the resultant PDF file. Why do the settings exist if they are inconsequential? I'm sure there is a reason for them, but I could not find it in my, albeit limited, testing. Mike Abrahamson ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 17:52:30-GMT,4730;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26940 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 10:52:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16747; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:46:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:45:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA16528; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:45:15 -0600 Message-id: Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 09:45:07 -0800 Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for November-2-99 [V2 #655] To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com From: trepsher@bakersfield.com (Tim Repsher) References: <199911030514.XAA16489@everglades.binc.net> In-Reply-To: <199911030514.XAA16489@everglades.binc.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ pdf@lists.pdfzone.com writes: >I thought that it might be nice to include a sound when a button is >pushed but each button is already configured as a link set to the ëgo to >viewí action. Since a link to a sound action is an alternate choice in >the same actions pop-up menu, is it possible to configure it so that >mouse clicking a button plays a button pushing sound _and_ transports >the viewer to the desired page. I guess that would be 2 link actions for >one mouse click. If this effect is possible, how would I go about >setting it up? I do this same thing quite allot. 4.0 makes it easier in the forms set up about the same as setting your page actions in the menu of 3.0. In 3.0 and 4.0 First set up is to attach the uncompressed sound (like a .wav) second action set is to set the destination. The forms function in 4.0 give nice 3d button choices. or you can use icons of logos to activate the actions. In 4.0 you don't have to know Java script to get this to function , it is just a choice of menu function as the scripts are preset choices. I have also used a pdf that used "open File" and played compressed sound files like MP3. MP3 players either are freeware or shareware so I either send a copy of the legal freeware or pay the shareware registration fee ($19 to $25) of the shareware. Then have a script, upon downloading my folder, give the receiver the option of installing the player. or give them the option of using one they already have. Once installed, the "open file" function more or less probes their computer looking for the player and activates the sound file. With MP3 being around a 10 to1 compression ration it makes for a very small file to send. Using compressed Zip files to both MAC and PCs I email the PDF with sound files in a seperate folder. (expanders for Zipped files are shareware or Freeware. I recommend Stuffit Expander for MACs and Winzip for PCs) This kind of PDF functions like a web page without the teadious download times due to slow modem speeds. And with links to my email, I can get back their responses to questions fast. Some clients have 400+mhz machines but having them activate similar pages from the web over a 28k connection makes their faster processors almost a moot purchase. By giving them a PDF with set actions and forms directly to their machine makes the most of their investment. ALSO Attaching too many sound files makes the PDF slower too, as the PDF now has embedded sounds. It works better especially since you are burning a CD to have the "set actions" do open files or play sound movies. which you include on your CD. When the client double clicks your PDF it will open faster with out the embedded sounds. Also by using forms in 4.0 you can give different export values to your buttons which will allow it to overide the previous buttons action instead of waiting for it to finish it's action. Worth it to upgrade to 4.0 Tim Repsher PrePress Specialist The Bakersfield Californain Newspaper ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 18:10:23-GMT,3367;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27236 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:10:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18758; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:03:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:01:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18389; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:01:10 -0600 Message-Id: <199911031801.MAA18374@everglades.binc.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 10:06:00 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes From: "Todd Donahue" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >From: "Michael Abrahamson" >To: >Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes >Date: Wed, Nov 3, 1999, 7:21 AM > > > I first tested this with the AdobePS driver that came with Acrobat 4. I > then upgraded to AdobePS 4.3.1 and the problem persisted. Although I am > probably misguided in my attempt to attribute the problem directly to > Distiller, it still seems obvious to me that Acrobat is the problem here in > one way or another. After all, the drivers that Adobe puts out for the > Distiller printer are what generate the PS file. Perhaps it is unfair to > put the blame on Distiller specifically, but I don't think it unreasonable > to scrutinize the Distiller process - what good is Distiller without a > reliable print driver? This is not to say Microsoft is completely innocent, > but their objective is not to create PDF files from Word documents. That > onus falls on Adobe. One problem that plagues (or enhances) the PS print drivers on both the Mac and Windows is that they support passthrough PostScript code. That is, the PS driver can generate some code, then the app, then the driver, etc. If the page size code set by the PS driver is then set to a new value by passthrough code, the new value will be used. I'm not sure this is the case with custom page sizes and MS Word on Windows, but I do know that this page size switching occurs with other programs. This could be the reason you are seeing the same results even if you switch drivers. -- Todd Donahue Acquired Knowledge Inc. todd@acquiredknowledge.com Creators of EZ-PDF "The easiest way to create PDF files for any use" http://www.acquiredknowledge.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 18:22:01-GMT,3901;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27442 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:21:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20158; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:14:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:12:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA19931; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:12:55 -0600 Message-id: Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 10:12:52 -0800 Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for November-2-99 [V2 #655] To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com From: trepsher@bakersfield.com (Tim Repsher) References: <199911030514.XAA16489@everglades.binc.net> In-Reply-To: <199911030514.XAA16489@everglades.binc.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ pdf@lists.pdfzone.com writes: >I need a combination of speed and clarity and smallest file size, but a >big problem is the documents I am scanning are not originals. The text >on the pages I am scanning is dark, but it is 'blobby'. I would be happy >if I could get an exact replica of the pages I am scanning. What I am >getting is images far less clear than the original, (I was using 200 >dpi). The edges of all the text looks blurry in the processed PDF file, >and when printed the text is grey, not black. I tried scanning at 400 >dpi, then processing in Capture set to Most Accurate instead of fastest >and it took 5 minutes to complete one page!! Not acceptable! However, >the output was closest to what I am hoping for :( ugh! >I also am noticing the file sizes seem to be 10s of MBs per page! I have >not combined a set of processed pages to create a complete PDF manual, so >don't know how big the final product would be, but I can only imagine it >would be far too large to manage over the web effectively. > >I don't know anything about the PS files, and Distiller I hear you all >talking about, is there a solution for me there somewhere??? > >Any advice you can offer me would be greatly appreciated. If I don't >find a solution to speed up production, with an acceptable online viewing >result, I may be in the dog house - because I am the one who recommended >we purchase and use Adobe Acrobat and the HP scanner to do this and it >doesn't appear to be able to do an acceptable job!! One option is to use a page layout program. Word, Quark, Pagemaker, Multiad, etc is a few build your documents using your text and place your scanned art. Design your pages how you want it. then use the export function or print to file function to get an EPS or PS file respectivly. Then using the distiller you bought set the job options to distill your file . it will make the PDF clear and printable. your scans will be closer to your originals Setting recommendations and expalantions are available from Adobe's web site and manuals. The PDF files will be at a manageable size (in reguards to MBs) Tim Rpesher Prepress The Bakersfield Californian ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 18:32:43-GMT,2696;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27623 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:32:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21649; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:26:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:24:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21482; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:24:50 -0600 Message-ID: <003701bf2628$d9b490e0$466564c8@mabrahamson> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <199911031801.MAA18374@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:25:48 -0500 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > If the page size code set by the PS driver is then set to a new value by > passthrough code, the new value will be used. This is an interesting report and certainly sounds feasible based on my settings. I had hoped adjusting the page size in the AdobePS driver would effectively prevent the dimension swapping in the resultant PDF but was proved wrong in all attempts. The frustrating part about this is the PDF does display the right measurements, but the dimensions are reversed (7.5"w x 11"h Word file becomes 11"w x 7.5"h PDF). Can you recommend any alterations to force the correct output without changing the custom page size in Word? We have many customers with predefined templates and we would obviously prefer to not recode the setup program to adjust these templates. We are short-staffed already! :( Thanks for your input! Mike Abrahamson ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 18:52:36-GMT,5415;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27948 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:52:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23816; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:45:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:43:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA23516; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:43:15 -0600 Message-ID: <382084B3.DE08E077@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 14:53:39 -0400 From: Bryan Guignard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes References: <199911022339.RAA19537@everglades.binc.net> <3.0.5.32.19991103120355.009c9740@pop.iglou.com> <002d01bf2623$2b61be00$466564c8@mabrahamson> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > The AdobePS driver does offer custom page sizes. I have tried to set these > as well to match the desired output from my custom pages in Word. None of > the settings I made to the AdobePS driver had any affect on the resultant > PDF file. Why do the settings exist if they are inconsequential? I'm sure > there is a reason for them, but I could not find it in my, albeit limited, > testing. First I want to say that there are some excellent arguments being brought out in this thread. I hope that software manufacturers are all listening in. Technology must serve people. When it becomes the other way around then technology = garbage. And that is indeed what happens with a lot of software I come across. Diskettes, CDs etc. end up in my garbage can next to my desk. Has anyone tried forcing the page size with Distiller's Job Options > Advanced > Default Page Size settings? I have never checked the PS code that comes from Word (since I avoid it like the plague), but it might just be that Word doesn't communicate the page size to the PS driver in some cases. This setting in Distiller is designed to account for such a problem. It is mainly designed for EPS, but it might just work for the Word to PS workflow??? It can't hurt to try. One must remember that Acrobat/Distiller can only create PDF with the information contained in the PS file. If an application such as Word (or any other) doesn't communicate effectively with the PS printer driver, by not including the page size for example, or including incorrect info, then the blame rests squarely on Word, since M$ does claim that Word can be used to print to PS and non PS printers. And yes I agree that Adobe does toot it's own horn a bit too much concerning Acrobat's "unlimited" abilities, especially in the world of word processors, but so does M$. As I cover in my "Word processor to PDF blues" article on planetpdf.com, there are essentially two categories of applications that we commonly deal with. PostScript oriented apps, and non-PostScript apps. Most word processors are non-PostScript apps that rely on the operating system imaging model. GDI for Windows and QuickDraw for Macs. That is why, for example, an EPS file inserted in Word will never output properly. Only the low res proxy image will output, even if you print to a PS printer directly, because regardless of what workflow you have, Word will always pass everything through GDI or QuickDraw first. It's hard wired to the OS imaging model. This is a compromising situation that application developers voluntarily place themselves in, yet their promo material always states that their products can produce high quality output. Well, that high quality is only as high as the imaging model the application chains itself to. In the case of Word, the chains are connected to GDI and Quickdraw, which both leave a lot to be desired, and in my book are incapable of producing high quality output. So from my point of view, software manufacturers are pretty much all guilty of false advertisement for the sake of making a buck. This is the reason PDFWriter was invented. It can overcome many of the OS vs PS incompatibilities. Unfortunately for everyone it does so by reducing everything to the lowest common denominator and everything else goes to the digital trash heap. Now I don't know if any of this can explain the problem being discussed in this thread, but maybe it will give someone some new ideas to try out. It seems unlikely that M$ will ever adopt the PostScript imaging model, but unless it does, Word to PDF conversions will continue to be the crippled workflow that it has been so far. Bryan Guignard ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 19:11:41-GMT,5076;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28202 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:11:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26314; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:05:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:03:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26128; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:03:39 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991103141007.009a0c70@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 14:10:07 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes In-Reply-To: <002d01bf2623$2b61be00$466564c8@mabrahamson> References: <199911022339.RAA19537@everglades.binc.net> <3.0.5.32.19991103120355.009c9740@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Good point. Distiller has also remained a constant. So based on that point >alone there is no resolution. Not to be difficult, just trying to be >logical and fair. And what could be fairer than that? ;-) >Word has its many flaws, but it performs its most basic >functions reliably in almost every case. I can create a document and print >it. Very basic. Creating a PDF file (whether it be through PDFWriter or >from a PS file generated by the AdobePS print driver and Distilled into PDF) >is Acrobat's primary function. This it should perform reliably in most >cases. I'm not looking for perfection of obscure features - just an >acknowledgement of Acrobat's failure to reliably perform its primary >function. It may be that Adobe has overstated itself in its marketing materials, as you pointed out in a previous post. Perhaps a few caveats are in order there, along the lines of "given accurate PostScript to work from, Acrobat allows you to ...." etc etc etc. >If Acrobat/Distiller, etc. cannot accurately produce PDF files >from Word-generated PS files But as I mentioned in a post a week or two ago, it does, at least in respect of page sizes. That is, if Word allows you to set up a custom page size and print same to a printer that doesn't support custom page sizes, and you avail yourself of this feature, Word will shoot you in the foot. The PS it produces in this circumstance is letter-size, so if you get letter-size PDFs from Distiller, it's because Distiller is doing exactly what it's been asked to do. We certainly can't fault it for that, can we? >then Adobe should note that as an >incompatibility or work feverishly to resolve the problem. Agreed, a warning of this kind of problem would be welcome. And given that Distiller seems able to deal with custom page sizes (eg, you can plug them in as defaults which it'll respect if no page size in the PS overrides it), it seems that Adobe might well want to implement custom page sizes in the distiller PPD and PS driver. That would be VERY welcome and might solve your problems straight away. What I wouldn't expect them to do is work on solving a problem over which they have no control. If Word and Acrobat are both contributing to the problem, I don't see it as within Adobe's purview to solve the Word half of the equation. That's why there are standards. If MS writes them and Adobe adheres to them and MS ignores them ... sigh. >The AdobePS driver does offer custom page sizes. I have tried to set these >as well to match the desired output from my custom pages in Word. None of >the settings I made to the AdobePS driver had any affect on the resultant >PDF file. Why do the settings exist if they are inconsequential? I'm sure >there is a reason for them, but I could not find it in my, albeit limited, >testing. > I'd have to look at this some more on another computer where I've got the odd Adobe driver or two. I've done some experimenting with other apps, though, and was able to produce custom sizes one way or another. I'll have to get back to you on this one, ok? Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 19:11:46-GMT,2651;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28206 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:11:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26315; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:05:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:03:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26160; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:03:52 -0600 Message-ID: <004101bf262e$8db28020$466564c8@mabrahamson> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <199911022339.RAA19537@everglades.binc.net> <3.0.5.32.19991103120355.009c9740@pop.iglou.com> <002d01bf2623$2b61be00$466564c8@mabrahamson> <382084B3.DE08E077@nbnet.nb.ca> Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 14:06:37 -0500 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Has anyone tried forcing the page size with Distiller's Job Options > Advanced > > Default Page Size settings? Excellent suggestion, Bryan. I will give it a try at my first convenience... perhaps this afternoon. I had tended to avoid diving into the advanced settings in Distiller for various reasons until now and forgot the default page size setting was available there. That may be the answer. I hope it does not cause further confusion for Acrobat when trying to determine page dimensions between arguing components of the PDF creation process. We shall see... Thanks to all for your thread participation. Your suggestions and responses are much appreciated. Mike Abrahamson ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 19:14:49-GMT,1980;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28232 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:14:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26744; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:08:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:07:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26555; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:07:13 -0600 Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:11:59 -0800 Message-Id: <199911031911.LAA01871@aladdin.com> From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 4 not to be supported on Unix/Linux? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I've just been told that Adobe has announced that it will not support the Acrobat 4 product line on Unix or Linux. Is this true? I know there is a free Acrobat Reader 4 for Linux, but I don't know about the other Acrobat products. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises | ghost@aladdin.com | http://www.aladdin.com | 203 Santa Margarita Ave. +1-650-322-0103 (9-12 M-F) | fax +1-650-322-1734 | Menlo Park, CA 94025 Open Source is the future of software: http://www.opensource.org ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 19:24:05-GMT,3549;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28360 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:24:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA27757; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:15:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:14:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA27551; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:14:14 -0600 Message-Id: <199911031914.NAA27538@everglades.binc.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 11:19:05 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes From: "Todd Donahue" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ ---------- >From: Bryan Guignard >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes >Date: Wed, Nov 3, 1999, 10:53 AM > > ...Has anyone tried forcing the page size with Distiller's Job Options > Advanced > > Default Page Size settings? > I have never checked the PS code that comes from Word (since I avoid it like the > plague), but it might just be that Word doesn't communicate the page size to the > PS driver in some cases. This setting in Distiller is designed to account for > such a problem. It is mainly designed for EPS, but it might just work for the > Word to PS workflow??? It can't hurt to try. This setting is only used if the PS file being distilled does not set the page size. All output from both the Adobe and Microsoft PS drivers always include page size info, so this setting will be ignored. >... > As I cover in my "Word processor to PDF blues" article on planetpdf.com, there > are essentially two categories of applications that we commonly deal with. > PostScript oriented apps, and non-PostScript apps. Most word processors are > non-PostScript apps that rely on the operating system imaging model. GDI for > Windows and QuickDraw for Macs. That is why, for example, an EPS file inserted > in Word will never output properly. Only the low res proxy image will output, > even if you print to a PS printer directly, because regardless of what.... Word *does* print the PostScript portion of the EPS file when printing to a PostScript device. It uses the passthrough mechanism built in to the PS drivers to do this. The screen preview will only be used in cases where the original EPS file cannot be found. I know you as well as 99.99% of the population never look at PostScript driver output, but have a look, you will see the PS code for an EPS file, not the screen preview. -- Todd Donahue Acquired Knowledge, Inc. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 19:57:29-GMT,2074;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28803 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:57:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA31500; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:47:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:46:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA31302; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:46:20 -0600 Message-ID: <30724FF712DFD2119E6200104B2448929DB4CA@mail1> From: Robin Clark To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:41:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Mike, Been following this thread (more closely in its recent incarnations) and don't recall anyone asking this ... did you try distilling the Word file via the std 8.5x11 page size? Reason I ask: I had a landscape/portrait issue several months ago that was solved by creating a custom 11x11 page; Distiller magically figured out where to crop and how to orientate the pages. Ergo maybe Distiller will crop your pages to the desired size? Perhaps this is misguided logic. Nonetheless ... R ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 19:57:38-GMT,2248;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28807 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:57:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA31499; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:47:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:45:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA31198; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:45:49 -0600 Message-ID: <005501bf2634$12c63e00$466564c8@mabrahamson> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <199911031914.NAA27538@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 14:46:08 -0500 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > This setting is only used if the PS file being distilled does not set the > page size. All output from both the Adobe and Microsoft PS drivers always > include page size info, so this setting will be ignored. Alas, I can confirm the default page size setting in Distiller to be useless in this case as well. I'm getting the same swapped dimensions. "Oh where, oh where has my PDF gone...?" Mike Abrahamson ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 19:57:40-GMT,3082;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28811 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:57:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA31505; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:47:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:45:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA31225; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:45:56 -0600 Message-ID: <004f01bf2633$6dacec20$466564c8@mabrahamson> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <199911022339.RAA19537@everglades.binc.net><3.0.5.32.19991103120355.009c9740@pop.iglou.com> <3.0.5.32.19991103141007.009a0c70@pop.iglou.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 14:41:31 -0500 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Steve, Your points regarding MS' involvement and responsibility are all valid. The key to solving the problem lies in determining where the break point lies. While the Distiller "application" can be cleared of virtually all responsibility for generating errored PDF files, the evidence seems to be mounting against the AdobePS driver in correlation with Word. And since this driver is designed for Distiller's purpose (from what I can tell), there is some relation to Distiller overall that must be stated. Having said that, and noted that there are custom page size options (3 of them in fact) in the AdobePS driver properties, is it safe to assume that Adobe may well release another update of the AdobePS driver to combat the Word PS generation and retain the correct page dimensions? Perhaps Dov has some insight into this? I verified the driver attributes and here is what I found: AdobePS 4.3.1 (059) files used: ADOBEPS4.DRV, ADIST4.PPD Thanks for your comments, Steve. They are well-founded in regards to the "games" played between Word, PostScript, Acrobat, Distiller, etc. Someday maybe they'll all "play nice." Mike Abrahamson ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 20:12:52-GMT,2937;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29033 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:12:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01367; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 14:04:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 14:03:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01194; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 14:03:41 -0600 Message-ID: <00E1C8ECF9BDD211A5390090271B28FC0DE99E@exchange.trapeze.net> From: "Bergerman, Matthew" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4 not to be supported on Unix/Linux? Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:04:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I recently purchased Acrobat 3 for Unix and the vendor said there is no version available. They did not know if one would ever be available. -----Original Message----- From: L. Peter Deutsch [mailto:ghost@aladdin.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 2:12 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 4 not to be supported on Unix/Linux? The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I've just been told that Adobe has announced that it will not support the Acrobat 4 product line on Unix or Linux. Is this true? I know there is a free Acrobat Reader 4 for Linux, but I don't know about the other Acrobat products. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises | ghost@aladdin.com | http://www.aladdin.com | 203 Santa Margarita Ave. +1-650-322-0103 (9-12 M-F) | fax +1-650-322-1734 | Menlo Park, CA 94025 Open Source is the future of software: http://www.opensource.org ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 20:15:55-GMT,2438;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29104 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:15:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA02049; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 14:09:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 14:08:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01833; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 14:08:32 -0600 Message-ID: <382098AE.5F693301@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 16:18:54 -0400 From: Bryan Guignard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes References: <199911031914.NAA27538@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Word *does* print the PostScript portion of the EPS file when printing to a > PostScript device. It uses the passthrough mechanism built in to the PS > drivers to do this. The screen preview will only be used in cases where the > original EPS file cannot be found. > > I know you as well as 99.99% of the population never look at PostScript > driver output, but have a look, you will see the PS code for an EPS file, > not the screen preview. I will certainly look into what you say. It contradicts what Adobe has written in several places, and my personal experience has always been that EPS from Word only shows up as a low res bitmap in the resulting PDF. Time to fire up Word and hack some PS code, as nauseating as it is. Thanks for the suggestion. Bryan Guignard ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 21:01:33-GMT,4226;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA29666 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 14:01:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07631; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 14:54:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 14:52:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA07181; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 14:51:58 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 20:51:45 -0000 Message-ID: <004701bf263d$3eeddde0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <002d01bf2623$2b61be00$466564c8@mabrahamson> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Good point. Distiller has also remained a constant. So > based on that point > alone there is no resolution. Not to be difficult, just trying to be > logical and fair. Word has its many flaws, but it performs > its most basic > functions reliably in almost every case. I can create a > document and print > it. Very basic. Can Word print successfully to a custom page on a PostScript printer (or any other) loaded in landscape? My attempts to reproduce the problem found that Word ignores the media size set in the printer driver (strange to start with) but instead forces the media size to match the page layout if the driver supports custom sizes. This works OK, but, no matter what I do, the combination of Word and the PostScript driver (Distiller is not involved) set a page which is the right size but always upright (tall) even if the original page size is wide. I don't know where the bug is. It is difficult to test the effect when printing, since few real printers support arbitrary media sizes. > The AdobePS driver does offer custom page sizes. I have > tried to set these > as well to match the desired output from my custom pages in > Word. None of > the settings I made to the AdobePS driver had any affect on > the resultant > PDF file. Why do the settings exist if they are > inconsequential? I'm sure > there is a reason for them, but I could not find it in my, > albeit limited, testing. If your universe consists only of Word, perhaps there is no reason. However, Word is out of step with almost every other application, in that it forces the driver to match its internal page layout. Most other applications print to the requested page size no matter what the design size. In this case, therefore, the custom sizes are extremely important. It isn't the first time Word has set of on its own course. In Word 6, changes to printer setup affected the system's default printer, instead of only applying for the session. This particular experiment returned to normal with Word 95. However, many people believe that whatever Word does is automatically the "right" behaviour. Not everyone shares that view. Given the existence of the bug, I'd like to suggest a work-around. Word, after all, is not a layout tool, and its use for special page sizes is therefore potentially fraught. Try designing on a standard size with larger margins. Then crop the pages in Acrobat. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 21:20:34-GMT,3185;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA29893 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 14:20:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10208; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:13:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:12:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10027; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:12:19 -0600 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.2.19991103130856.00bcecb0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 13:11:32 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes Cc: Bryan Guignard In-Reply-To: <382098AE.5F693301@nbnet.nb.ca> References: <199911031914.NAA27538@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 11/3/99 12:18 PM , Bryan Guignard wrote: > > Word *does* print the PostScript portion of the EPS file when printing to a > > PostScript device. It uses the passthrough mechanism built in to the PS > > drivers to do this. The screen preview will only be used in cases where the > > original EPS file cannot be found. > > > > I know you as well as 99.99% of the population never look at PostScript > > driver output, but have a look, you will see the PS code for an EPS file, > > not the screen preview. > >I will certainly look into what you say. It contradicts what Adobe has written in >several places, >and my personal experience has always been that EPS from Word only shows up as a low >res bitmap in the resulting PDF. Time to fire up Word and hack some PS code, as >nauseating as it is. Thanks for the suggestion. > >Bryan Guignard Microsoft Word does send EPS PostScript text correctly to the PSCRIPT and AdobePS drivers via the PASSTHROUGH escape mechanism. Thus, PDF files created from PostScript generated by these drivers will in fact contain the actual graphics from the EPS, not the low-rez TIFF headers. Note that if you use PDFWriter driver, you only get the low-rez TIFF headers, since PDFWriter is GDI driver, not a PostScript generator. - Dov ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 21:23:45-GMT,4328;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA29936 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 14:23:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10373; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:14:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:13:47 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10173; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:13:44 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991103162011.009b35c0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 16:20:11 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes In-Reply-To: <382084B3.DE08E077@nbnet.nb.ca> References: <199911022339.RAA19537@everglades.binc.net> <3.0.5.32.19991103120355.009c9740@pop.iglou.com> <002d01bf2623$2b61be00$466564c8@mabrahamson> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >I have never checked the PS code that comes from Word (since I avoid it like the >plague), but it might just be that Word doesn't communicate the page size to the >PS driver in some cases. This setting in Distiller is designed to account for >such a problem. It is mainly designed for EPS, but it might just work for the >Word to PS workflow??? It can't hurt to try. > I've tried it (Distiller 3). Doesn't help in this situation, I'm afraid. If you request a specific page size in Word (whose list of page sizes does appear to come from the chosen driver), the PS requests that page size. But Word also includes a Custom page size, whether or not the driver supports it. Now it gets slippery. For starters, if the custom page size you dial in is close enough (in Word's view) to one of the defined sizes, it'll simply reset the page size back to one of the defined ones. So helpful. If you nudge the custom size far enough away from one of the driver-defined sizes, Word will leave it alone, but will apparently always ask for a Letter size page in the PS. So letter size PDFs is what Distiller gives you. A reminder: this was tested with a driver that doesn't support custom page sizes. So: IF WordCustomPageSize AND NoDriverCustomPageSizeSupport THEN LetterSizePage >Windows and QuickDraw for Macs. That is why, for example, an EPS file inserted >in Word will never output properly. Only the low res proxy image will output, That's far too broad a brush to paint with. SOME versions of Word will output the EPS as they should, then overlay the preview image, if any, atop it, making it appear that what you describe is happening, where in fact it isn't. Try the same EPS image, this time w/o a preview, and it prints as you'd expect to a PS printer. As I recall, that was the first release of Word WhicheverCameWithOfficeVersion7, and this was fixed in a later service release. I've not run into the same problem with Word 97 in the original release or SR-1. And as a sanity check, I just inserted an EPS with preview into Word 97, printed to PS and examined it. It's just as it should be; EPS PS contents there, preview stripped out, prints perfectly. As Michael mentioned earlier ... we're trying to be fair here. Word has its warts, but this isn't one of them in most releases. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 21:25:34-GMT,2888;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA29960 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 14:25:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11060; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:20:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:19:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10908; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:19:07 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991103162533.009b6780@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 16:25:33 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes In-Reply-To: <004f01bf2633$6dacec20$466564c8@mabrahamson> References: <199911022339.RAA19537@everglades.binc.net> <3.0.5.32.19991103120355.009c9740@pop.iglou.com> <3.0.5.32.19991103141007.009a0c70@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >there is some relation to Distiller overall that must be stated. Having >said that, and noted that there are custom page size options (3 of them in >fact) in the AdobePS driver properties, is it safe to assume that Adobe may >well release another update of the AdobePS driver to combat the Word PS >generation and retain the correct page dimensions? Perhaps Dov has some >insight into this? I'd love to hear from him. Hope he comes out of hiding soon. I'd bet that Adobe's well aware of the problem; whether there's a solution possible from their end ... we'll have to wait and see. >Thanks for your comments, Steve. They are well-founded in regards to the >"games" played between Word, PostScript, Acrobat, Distiller, etc. Someday >maybe they'll all "play nice." > Gives us all something to pray for, each in our own way, doesn't it? Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 21:31:57-GMT,2756;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00040 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 14:31:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11858; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:25:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:24:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11622; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:24:16 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991103163043.009b76f0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 16:30:43 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes In-Reply-To: <382098AE.5F693301@nbnet.nb.ca> References: <199911031914.NAA27538@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >I will certainly look into what you say. It contradicts what Adobe has written in >several places, They've been known to mess up too. ISTR that about the time they announced ATM for NT, they put Corel Draw on the list of apps that wouldn't support it. This got released for public consumption at almost the same time as Corel was demoing Draw under NT using ATM fonts at one of the big shows in NYC. Good thing for Adobe, too, since Illustrator wouldn't work with it. OBTW, in all this we've forgotten to mention what versions of which software on whose platform. I'll show you mine if you'll show me yours ... ;-) Word (Office 7 Version), Word (Office 97 version, SR-1) running under NT4, Win95 and Win98 in various combinations. Probably have a copy of the Office 4 version of Word on Win95, but who cares, right? Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 21:32:29-GMT,3094;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00045 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 14:32:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11970; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:26:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:24:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11697; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:24:51 -0600 Message-ID: <007901bf2640$a0e83c40$466564c8@mabrahamson> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <30724FF712DFD2119E6200104B2448929DB4CA@mail1> Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:16:00 -0500 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > don't recall anyone asking this ... did you try distilling the Word file via > the std 8.5x11 page size? Forgive me, but I don't know where you are suggesting I set this option. There are custom page size settings abound along every step of the way from Word doc to PDF. Word has it, the AdobePS driver has it, and Distiller has it. As for Word documents that are the standard 8.5" x 11", they come out great in PDF! I have two "guinea pig" Acrobat customers who are creating PDF files from Word (both ver. 6 and 97) and I have not yet had one problem with those files in almost a month and a half. It was not until I tried to Distill a custom page size document that I encountered the problem. Unfortunately, because of how our program is written, it would be fairly impractical to have to recode the document templates to a different page size (it would require not just the recoding, but also a redistribution, reinstallation and retraining of numerous customers). If there is a setting I can manipulate outside of the Word application to override the problem, more specifically in any of the installed Acrobat components, I would be thrilled. That way I could set the correct options at the Acrobat install. Does this help? Mike Abrahamson ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 21:53:40-GMT,4104;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00278 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 14:53:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA14261; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:46:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:42:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA13852; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:42:52 -0600 Message-ID: <008301bf2643$51743da0$466564c8@mabrahamson> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <004701bf263d$3eeddde0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:35:15 -0500 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > However, many people believe that whatever Word does is > automatically the "right" behaviour. Not everyone shares that > view. I'm not suggesting Word is free of blame in this case, just that Adobe should have recognized this "flaw" instead of making a broad generalization with regard to compatibility. > Given the existence of the bug, I'd like to suggest a work-around. > Word, after all, is not a layout tool, and its use for special > page sizes is therefore potentially fraught. Try designing on > a standard size with larger margins. Then crop the pages in > Acrobat. If I could go back 5 years (before my employment with this company) and persuade them to scrap Word in favor of a page layout program I would in a heartbeat! What that says about my social life worries me... nevertheless, I have to deal with our current product the way it was created. If it turns out that this is completely incompatible with generating reliable PDF files then I will have to make some bold recommendations to management (they are supposedly determined to go PDF and DtP at some point). Suffice to say, if there is any possible way to manipulate the settings outside of Word in order to solve the problem, discovering that is my primary goal for this project right now. Retooling the templates (page size included) is not a viable option at this point in time. Exhausting all other possibilities may change that... but I'd love to get Adobe's take on this subject. Is there any possible way to generate reliable PDF files from Word documents of a custom page size using Distiller? I suppose this whole thread comes right down to that simple question. While PDFWriter can do it, there are obvious pitfalls with that method that prevent it from being the solution. As simple as it sounds to use a standard size template, it would unfortunately require a huge amount of work to accomplish due to our distributed code (see previous post). All your suggestions are valid and appreciated. I feel my hands are tied by the limitations of our program as much as anything else. Perhaps this problem will be a linchpin that forces management to make some effective changes in our crippled workflow. If so I will give you all mental bylines. :) Mike Abrahamson ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 21:56:38-GMT,4441;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00319 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 14:56:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA14774; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:50:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:49:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA14642; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:49:11 -0600 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.2.19991103134056.00bc6cd0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 13:47:42 -0800 To: Steve Rindsberg , "Michael Abrahamson" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19991103162533.009b6780@pop.iglou.com> References: <004f01bf2633$6dacec20$466564c8@mabrahamson> <199911022339.RAA19537@everglades.binc.net> <3.0.5.32.19991103120355.009c9740@pop.iglou.com> <3.0.5.32.19991103141007.009a0c70@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 11/3/99 01:25 PM , Steve Rindsberg wrote: > >there is some relation to Distiller overall that must be stated. Having > >said that, and noted that there are custom page size options (3 of them in > >fact) in the AdobePS driver properties, is it safe to assume that Adobe may > >well release another update of the AdobePS driver to combat the Word PS > >generation and retain the correct page dimensions? Perhaps Dov has some > >insight into this? > >I'd love to hear from him. Hope he comes out of hiding soon. I'd bet that >Adobe's well aware of the problem; whether there's a solution possible from >their end ... we'll have to wait and see. > > >Thanks for your comments, Steve. They are well-founded in regards to the > >"games" played between Word, PostScript, Acrobat, Distiller, etc. Someday > >maybe they'll all "play nice." > > > >Gives us all something to pray for, each in our own way, doesn't it? >Steve Rindsberg >President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau >http://www.rdpslides.com > >Developers of ZAP! >Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus >http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm "Comes out of hiding"? What are you talking about? Just for the record, I am not Adobe Technical Support. I monitor these forums and give responses in addition to having a "real" daytime job! With regards to Microsoft Word (as in Office'97), AdobePS 4.3.1, and Acrobat Distiller 4.0: (1) Setting the default page size in Distiller is totally irrelevant to this discussion because that page size only takes effect if there is no page size specified in the PostScript file being distilled. (2) I setup a custom page in my AdobePS 4.3.1 Acrobat Distiller printer instance to be 10"x7.5". (3) I went into Microsoft Word, set the printer to be the Acrobat Distiller printer and in page setup, I set the page size to be that custom page size. (4) I entered text into this 10"x7.5" landscape page. (5) I printed to the Acrobat Distiller printer yielding PostScript that was automatically shipped to the Distiller. (6) The result was a PDF file with pagesize 10"x7.5" landscape. What is the problem that you think we don't handle? I am obviously missing one of the conditions which you find make the system fail miserably. - Dov ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 22:08:34-GMT,2631;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00446 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:08:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16233; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:00:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:57:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15956; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:57:57 -0600 Message-ID: <008f01bf2645$b344e960$466564c8@mabrahamson> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <199911031914.NAA27538@everglades.binc.net> <3.0.5.32.19991103163043.009b76f0@pop.iglou.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:52:19 -0500 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > OBTW, in all this we've forgotten to mention what versions of which > software on whose platform. I'll show you mine if you'll show me yours ... Read 'em 'n weep... Acrobat 4 on Win 95 using Word versions 6, 97 SR-2, 2000 (we hate version 7 or '95 as it's called). We're not too thrilled with the others, either, but they are better behaved. We also have lots of WordImperfect 5.1 for DOS, 6.1 for Windows and the 2000 Suite > albeit scarcely installed for individual purposes. All of my testing has focused on the Word family, our primary product base. Of course, there is the entire Design Art department running Quark 4 that will need to be generating PDF's eventually, as well... that's a whole different story. :) Mike Abrahamson ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 22:22:16-GMT,3534;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00624 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:22:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18209; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:15:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:13:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA18008; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:13:56 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991103172023.009b4100@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 17:20:23 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes In-Reply-To: <004f01bf2633$6dacec20$466564c8@mabrahamson> References: <199911022339.RAA19537@everglades.binc.net> <3.0.5.32.19991103120355.009c9740@pop.iglou.com> <3.0.5.32.19991103141007.009a0c70@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I guess there's no end to the trouble some people will get themselves into once their curiosity's aroused. OK. Went to the Adobe site, downloaded PS 4.3.1, installed it on a Win98 machine, connected to FILE:. Picked one of the existing custom page sizes, clicked Custom and redefined it to a page size I frequently need anyhow, 11 x 7.33 (35mm slides, so 35mm is what I named it.) Note: because landscape sizes and transverse sizes can be a problem with some apps, I left this new page size in portrait orientation - ie, 11" tall by 7.33" wide. May as well eliminate a few variables here. We can get into the orientation issue later. Fired up Word 97, SR-1. Selected File, Print, picked the newly installed driver and clicked Close. Word now knows I want to use this driver. Selected File, Page Setup and picked my newly defined 35mm page size. Typed some text, printed, put the resulting PS file where Distiller 3 (on another machine) could get at it and distilled it. Left Distiller's job options set to letter size paper for default paper size. And got a 7.33 x 11 portrait oriented PDF. Progress! Now for a bit of idle speculation. I'd bet if you're not getting Word to respect custom sizes set in the printer driver, it might be because they're still undefined. Try clicking one of the custom sizes in the driver control panel, then clicking Custom and setting the name/size/etc to what you want. Again, stick with standard portrait oriented page defs for the nonce. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 22:25:46-GMT,2708;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00676 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:25:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18259; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:15:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:14:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA18106; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:14:36 -0600 Message-ID: <3820B63C.49829E4F@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 18:25:00 -0400 From: Bryan Guignard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes References: <199911022339.RAA19537@everglades.binc.net> <3.0.5.32.19991103120355.009c9740@pop.iglou.com> <002d01bf2623$2b61be00$466564c8@mabrahamson> <3.0.5.32.19991103162011.009b35c0@pop.iglou.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > an EPS file > inserted > >in Word will never output properly. Only the low res proxy image will output, > > That's far too broad a brush to paint with. SOME versions of Word will > output the EPS as they should, then overlay the preview image, if any, atop > it, making it appear that what you describe is happening, where in fact it > isn't. Try the same EPS image, this time w/o a preview, and it prints as > you'd expect to a PS printer. As I recall, that was the first release of > Word WhicheverCameWithOfficeVersion7, and this was fixed in a later service > release. Thanks for that bit of info. It is most revealing. Turns out that my version of Word is indeed the problematic one. I use it so little however that it never even crossed my mind to upgrade it. Thanks again for the reminder, and my apologies for throwing my short sightedness into this fine discussion. Bryan Guignard ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 22:39:46-GMT,2612;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00869 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:39:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18881; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:20:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:19:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA18715; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:19:30 -0600 Message-Id: <63DBC6BC8035D311AF570008C739748E01D58924@torex169.tor.allied.com> From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: Post to PDF listserve Subject: [PDF] Trying to rollout self-extracting executable for Acrobat 4 to NT workstations.... Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:19:21 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi - We have a browser-based Electronic Document Management system in place that relies on client-side Acrobat installs with netscape plug-in. These workstations are locked down with Administrator access. I run Windows 95, so I never quite know how things will go on "the other side". Acrobat 3 reader seemed to install no problem, as I recall. So my test user (on NT) just called me after I asked him to try my download instructions. He does not administrator access, so just did the install on his normal login. He reports getting a WARNING message at the end of the install that said "unable to update system registry". It then invites the user to hit "OK" , says setup has finished copying files, and asks that the computer be rebooted. Not updating the registry doesn't sound good. I haven't yet gone over to see how and if Acrobat is working after this install. Is this a showstopper? Will an administrator have to touch each client to get this install to go correctly? ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 22:59:35-GMT,2475;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01004 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:59:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22632; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:52:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:51:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22345; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:51:09 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991103175735.009b0420@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 17:57:35 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes In-Reply-To: <3820B63C.49829E4F@nbnet.nb.ca> References: <199911022339.RAA19537@everglades.binc.net> <3.0.5.32.19991103120355.009c9740@pop.iglou.com> <002d01bf2623$2b61be00$466564c8@mabrahamson> <3.0.5.32.19991103162011.009b35c0@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Thanks again for the reminder, and my apologies for throwing my short sightedness >into this fine discussion. No problem. There's a reason they've dubbed me "The Village Pedant" over on one of the compuserve forums. At one time, you could call MS Sales and get an update CD for shipping/handling ... five or ten bucks or so. I don't know if they still offer that, but it's worth checking into. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-1999 22:59:38-GMT,3008;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01008 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:59:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA20661; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:36:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:34:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA20473; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:34:41 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991103174109.009bab80@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 17:41:09 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes In-Reply-To: <008f01bf2645$b344e960$466564c8@mabrahamson> References: <199911031914.NAA27538@everglades.binc.net> <3.0.5.32.19991103163043.009b76f0@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Acrobat 4 on Win 95 using Word versions 6, 97 SR-2, 2000 (we hate version 7 >or '95 as it's called). We're not too thrilled with the others, either, but >they are better behaved. We also have lots of WordImperfect 5.1 for DOS, >6.1 for Windows and the 2000 Suite > albeit scarcely installed for >individual purposes. All of my testing has focused on the Word family, our >primary product base. Of course, there is the entire Design Art department >running Quark 4 that will need to be generating PDF's eventually, as well... >that's a whole different story. :) I doubt Quark will be quite the trial that Word's been. Like most DTP and better graphic apps, it keeps Page_I'm_Designing and Sheet_Size_I'll_Print_It_On distinct. Word lacks that subtlety. And as long as you've gone and got me cranked up on this, may as well get me to try a couple other things. What specific custom page sizes do you need to work with, and in what orientation? IOW, feed me a set of dimensions as "XX wide by YY tall". Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Nov-1999 9:25:35-GMT,3649;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA05588 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 02:25:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA09327; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 03:18:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 03:14:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA09095; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 03:14:28 -0600 Message-ID: <006c01bf26a4$73ef0700$214315a5@magix.com.sg> From: "Anthony Cheng" To: "PDF" Subject: [PDF] Indexing Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 17:10:34 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0069_01BF26E7.81A46A00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0069_01BF26E7.81A46A00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! In Acrobat Catalog, I could only exclude words and not include. In my case, the number words that I want to exclude is more than those = that I wanna include. It will take a long time & many tedious work if I am goin use Acrobat = Catalog to do index my files. I know of an easier way to do this, which is the stoplist method. I read it from the Adobe site. But still the number of stoplist word i can have is up to 500 words = only. Can anyone help? SanD ------=_NextPart_000_0069_01BF26E7.81A46A00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0069_01BF26E7.81A46A00-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Nov-1999 10:15:48-GMT,2453;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA05780 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 03:15:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA12884; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 04:09:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 04:08:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA12724; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 04:08:22 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] What Acrobat Reader versions support PDF 1.3? Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 00:42:46 -0000 Message-ID: <000601bf26ac$833e6cc0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <8725681C.0074C3A2.00@domino.ihs.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > What versions of Acrobat Reader support PDF v1.3? 4.0 > Are there specific advantages and disadvantages to using 1.3 > over 1.2. Advantage of 1.3: new features. Advantage of 1.2: compatibility with Acrobat (Reader) 3.0 and other PDF consumers including embedded printers. > Are there features in v1.3 that are not supported in older > Acrobat Reader versions. Yes. Interesting ones include masked images, allowing an image to be painted through a bitmap or have a "key" transparent colour; smooth shading; support for embedded ICC profiles (broken in Distiller 4.0); and support for marking multiple spot plates ("DeviceN"). Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Nov-1999 10:15:56-GMT,2127;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA05784 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 03:15:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA12885; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 04:09:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 04:08:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA12749; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 04:08:24 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acro3 and Acro4 readers Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 00:44:12 -0000 Message-ID: <000701bf26ac$84fa74a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <63DBC6BC8035D311AF570008C739748E01D58652@torex169.tor.allied.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I know when you are installing Acrobat 4 that Adobe tells you > to uninstall Acro 3 first. No it doesn't. The message suggests you might want to, because if you later uninstall 3.0, it will also remove part of 4.0. This is not the same as a demand (unless the message has changed since I last saw it). Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Nov-1999 10:28:46-GMT,2656;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA05853 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 03:28:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA14157; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 04:22:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 04:17:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA13663; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 04:17:31 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Indexing Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:17:00 -0000 Message-ID: <001101bf26ad$bbba2700$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <006c01bf26a4$73ef0700$214315a5@magix.com.sg> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Acrobat Catalog is designed to make a full text index of the entire document for searching. If you have so many stop words, I suspect you are trying to make a special purpose search of only selected words. Simply put, that is not what the product is for. This is why you will have so much trouble with this approach. If this is an essential property, you may have to find a different product for indexing PDFs. Aandi -----Original Message----- In Acrobat Catalog, I could only exclude words and not include. In my case, the number words that I want to exclude is more than those that I wanna include. It will take a long time & many tedious work if I am goin use Acrobat Catalog to do index my files. I know of an easier way to do this, which is the stoplist method. I read it from the Adobe site. But still the number of stoplist word i can have is up to 500 words only. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Nov-1999 10:32:24-GMT,2495;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA05866 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 03:32:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA14533; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 04:27:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 04:23:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA14269; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 04:23:56 -0600 Message-ID: <38215F19.119E7905@wanadoo.fr> Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 11:25:29 +0100 From: "Lausseur.aalto" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [fr] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes References: <012701bf1fe4$619f5620$466564c8@mabrahamson> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ It seems likely that the non_standard_page_size problem and the bad_page_orientation problem are the same, or not ? About page orientation, I have made a few tests (Word 97 files with A4 portrait + landscape pages, Acrobat V4.0) : - Windows 98 : OK no problem (PDFWriter or Distiller) - Windows NT4.0 – PDFWriter : OK - Windows NT4.0 – PDFMaker + Distiller + profile Screen : OK - Windows NT4.0 – PDFMaker + Distiller + profile Printer : bad - all PDF pages are portrait oriented Surprisingly the results are always bad when Distiller profile is set to Printer instead of Screen, whatever the others settings. I’d like better MS Word is guilty, but in my case the same sets of Distiller parameters give different results, depending on profile, although using same PS driver. Any idea ? Michel Lausseur Aalto Consultant ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Nov-1999 12:34:14-GMT,2100;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA06274 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 05:34:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA23420; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 06:28:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 06:26:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA23248; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 06:26:56 -0600 Message-ID: <009101bf26bf$d9a45da0$0200a8c0@Paul> From: "Paul Dennis" To: "pdf zone" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acro3 and Acro4 readers Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 12:26:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Although the message is that you might want to remove 3 in practice the average users gets in a right mess and tries to remove 3 which if he has put on a couple of times doesn't get removed from the start menu and so on.... Adobe should have incorporated a removal of 3 option and tidy up in the 4 install routine. Paul Dennis Complete Picture London Publishing Solutions For Industry ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Nov-1999 12:59:47-GMT,2422;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA06361 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 05:59:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA25680; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 06:54:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 06:53:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA25505; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 06:53:06 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acro3 and Acro4 readers Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 12:52:56 -0000 Message-ID: <001601bf26c3$844732c0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <009101bf26bf$d9a45da0$0200a8c0@Paul> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Although the message is that you might want to remove 3 in > practice the > average users gets in a right mess and tries to remove 3 > which if he has put > on a couple of times doesn't get removed from the start menu > and so on.... > Adobe should have incorporated a removal of 3 option and tidy > up in the 4 > install routine. Personally, I don't understand what is so difficult about the message. It is clear and explicit. However, you are quite right - the message is almost universally misinterpreted, so it must be a lot less clear than it seems. Or, as I suspect, people are conditioned NOT to read long messages. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Nov-1999 13:35:00-GMT,2063;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA06622 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 06:34:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA28830; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 07:27:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 07:25:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA28692; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 07:25:41 -0600 Message-ID: <38218948.689878EC@what-if.com> Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 08:25:44 -0500 From: mdb Organization: bayouMedia X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Boolean Search Options Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I'm looking for some type of search engine that would enable Boolean type searches of municipal code rendered to pdf. I'm new to this endeavor so your understanding and patience is appreciated. I've heard of a product called Isys Desktop that looks like it might do the number but I'm wondering if anyone has used this product. Thanks! Mike Bellah mdb@what-if.com the Imagination Factory • Cleveland ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Nov-1999 13:43:45-GMT,2179;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA06650 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 06:43:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA30045; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 07:38:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 07:36:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA29848; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 07:36:31 -0600 Message-ID: <38218BD3.8482D14B@what-if.com> Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 08:36:38 -0500 From: mdb Organization: bayouMedia X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Publishing Municipal Code with Boolean Search Capability Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I've published the Municipal Codification for a community and would now like to add full boolean search capabilities to the site. If a citizen wants to search for "barking and howling dogs" for instance, I would like that citizen to then be presented with various ordinances that might be appropriate. I'm new to pdf technology beyond ripping documents to the format so your understanding is appreciated. Any thoughts? Mike Bellah mdb@what-if.com the Imagination Factory • Cleveland ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Nov-1999 14:56:41-GMT,4134;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA07105 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 07:56:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA04861; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:48:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:46:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA04701; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:46:33 -0600 Message-ID: <297E9C38E03DD31187240090279334C602E914@smtp.cepr.org> From: Michaela Cahillane To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Disappearing letters in PDF files Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:34:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BF26D1.C57CB82E" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF26D1.C57CB82E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sometimes when we create PDF files of our Discussion Papers, anytime the lower-case letters 'f' and 'i' occur together in the document, the PDF shows a blank space (ie, instead of reading 'findings on fiscal financial crises', the PDF reads ' ndings on scal nancial crises'.) I have known others to encounter the same problem, but none of us have had a solution. Any ideas? thanks! Michaela Cahillane Electronic Publications Project Coordinator Centre For Economic Policy Research ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF26D1.C57CB82E Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1"
Sometimes when we create PDF files of our Discussion Papers, anytime the lower-case letters 'f' and 'i' occur together in the document, the PDF shows a blank space (ie, instead of reading 'findings on  fiscal financial crises',  the PDF reads '  ndings on scal   nancial crises'.)
 
I have known others to encounter the same problem, but none of us have had a solution. Any ideas?
 
thanks!
 
Michaela Cahillane
Electronic Publications Project Coordinator
Centre For Economic Policy Research
------_=_NextPart_001_01BF26D1.C57CB82E-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Nov-1999 15:06:14-GMT,4108;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07187 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:06:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06195; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:00:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:59:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA06034; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:59:28 -0600 Message-Id: <199911041509.JAA02121@greatwest.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 09:03:57 -0600 Subject: Re: [PDF] Disappearing letters in PDF files From: "Joan Wagner" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3024551037_276340_MIME_Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3024551037_276340_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit are you using ligatures? if so maybe turn off ligatures ---------- From: Michaela Cahillane To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Disappearing letters in PDF files Date: Thu, Nov 4, 1999, 8:34 AM Sometimes when we create PDF files of our Discussion Papers, anytime the lower-case letters 'f' and 'i' occur together in the document, the PDF shows a blank space (ie, instead of reading 'findings on fiscal financial crises', the PDF reads ' ndings on scal nancial crises'.) I have known others to encounter the same problem, but none of us have had a solution. Any ideas? thanks! Michaela Cahillane Electronic Publications Project Coordinator Centre For Economic Policy Research --MS_Mac_OE_3024551037_276340_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [PDF] Disappearing letters in PDF files are you using ligatures? if so maybe turn off ligatures
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From: Michaela Cahillane <mcahillane@cepr.org>
To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" <pdf@lists.pdfzone.com>
Subject: [PDF] Disappearing letters in PDF files
Date: Thu, Nov 4, 1999, 8:34 AM


Sometimes when we create P= DF files of our Discussion Papers, anytime the lower-case letters 'f' and 'i= ' occur together in the document, the PDF shows a blank space (ie, instead o= f reading 'findings on  fiscal financial crises',  the PDF reads '=  ndings on scal   nancial crises'.)
 
I have known others to encounter the s= ame problem, but none of us have had a solution. Any ideas?
 
thanks!
 
Michaela Cahillane
Electronic Publications Project Coordinator
Centre For Economic Policy Research

--MS_Mac_OE_3024551037_276340_MIME_Part-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Nov-1999 15:17:57-GMT,2096;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07297 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:17:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA07203; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:07:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:06:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA06952; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:06:03 -0600 Message-ID: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C03393B68@denver.quark.com> From: Todd Reid To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Disappearing letters in PDF files Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:04:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Sometimes when we create PDF files of our Discussion Papers, anytime the lower-case letters 'f' and 'i' occur together in the document, the PDF shows a blank space (ie, instead of reading 'findings on fiscal financial crises', the PDF reads ' ndings on scal nancial crises'.) Are you possibly using software that uses ligatures (a way of combining certain letters like 'f' and 'i' into one character, for aesthetic reasons)? This _might_ account for such behavior. Todd ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Nov-1999 15:18:24-GMT,2461;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07314 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:18:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08028; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:13:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:11:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA07763; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:11:54 -0600 Message-ID: <87C1D57BDC06D211B5D60000F8084B9401292393@exchange.nationalpost.com> From: "Bartlett, Jason" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Disappearing letters in PDF files Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:09:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ What program are you using to generate your PDF files from. QuarkXpress, Pagemaker, etc. > ---------- > From: Michaela Cahillane > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Thursday, November 4, 1999 9:34 AM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: [PDF] Disappearing letters in PDF files > > Sometimes when we create PDF files of our Discussion Papers, anytime the > lower-case letters 'f' and 'i' occur together in the document, the PDF > shows a blank space (ie, instead of reading 'findings on fiscal financial > crises', the PDF reads ' ndings on scal nancial crises'.) > > I have known others to encounter the same problem, but none of us have had > a solution. Any ideas? > > thanks! > > Michaela Cahillane > Electronic Publications Project Coordinator > Centre For Economic Policy Research > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Nov-1999 15:31:23-GMT,7002;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07466 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:31:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08980; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:21:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:19:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA08778; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:19:51 -0600 Message-ID: <297E9C38E03DD31187240090279334C602E91B@smtp.cepr.org> From: Michaela Cahillane To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Disappearing letters in PDF files Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 15:08:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BF26D6.68516F8C" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF26D6.68516F8C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" The files with this problem always orginate as TEX files in Scientific Word. -----Original Message----- From: Bartlett, Jason [mailto:jbartlett@nationalpost.com] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 3:10 PM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] Disappearing letters in PDF files The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ What program are you using to generate your PDF files from. QuarkXpress, Pagemaker, etc. > ---------- > From: Michaela Cahillane > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Thursday, November 4, 1999 9:34 AM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: [PDF] Disappearing letters in PDF files > > Sometimes when we create PDF files of our Discussion Papers, anytime the > lower-case letters 'f' and 'i' occur together in the document, the PDF > shows a blank space (ie, instead of reading 'findings on fiscal financial > crises', the PDF reads ' ndings on scal nancial crises'.) > > I have known others to encounter the same problem, but none of us have had > a solution. 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------_=_NextPart_001_01BF26D6.68516F8C-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Nov-1999 15:37:59-GMT,1957;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07555 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:37:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA10260; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:30:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:29:02 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10078; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:28:59 -0600 Message-Id: <199911041528.JAA10073@everglades.binc.net> From: "Kitchen, James x1298" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 and custom page sizes Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:27:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have a suggestion on solving the printing custom page size. Set the custom size in word. Then Print to distiller printer choosing custom paper size and setting it to 7.5 width and 11 height. Then select landscape. Then run the resulting file through distiller. I got it to work several times. If this is not clear let me know, sometimes I can't tell. Hope this helps James Kitchen GENICOM ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Nov-1999 16:35:07-GMT,3801;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08698 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:35:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA16850; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:26:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:24:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16655; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:24:47 -0600 Message-ID: <87C1D57BDC06D211B5D60000F8084B9401292395@exchange.nationalpost.com> From: "Bartlett, Jason" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Disappearing letters in PDF files Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 11:22:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Does your software package use Ligatures. fi is a common ligature and if your program uses ligatures but your font doesn't contain them then the ligature "fi" would probably be replace by a null character. Jason Bartlett National Post Ontario, Canada > ---------- > From: Michaela Cahillane > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Thursday, November 4, 1999 10:08 AM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: RE: [PDF] Disappearing letters in PDF files > > The files with this problem always orginate as TEX files in Scientific > Word. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bartlett, Jason [ mailto:jbartlett@nationalpost.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 3:10 PM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: RE: [PDF] Disappearing letters in PDF files > > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > What program are you using to generate your PDF files from. QuarkXpress, > Pagemaker, etc. > > > ---------- > > From: Michaela Cahillane > > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Sent: Thursday, November 4, 1999 9:34 AM > > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > > Subject: [PDF] Disappearing letters in PDF files > > > > Sometimes when we create PDF files of our Discussion Papers, anytime the > > > lower-case letters 'f' and 'i' occur together in the document, the PDF > > shows a blank space (ie, instead of reading 'findings on fiscal > financial > > crises', the PDF reads ' ndings on scal nancial crises'.) > > > > I have known others to encounter the same problem, but none of us have > had > > a solution. Any ideas? > > > > thanks! > > > > Michaela Cahillane > > Electronic Publications Project Coordinator > > Centre For Economic Policy Research > > > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood > < http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/halloween-99.html> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Nov-1999 16:57:32-GMT,3150;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09008 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:57:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19344; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:50:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:49:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19189; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:49:32 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 16:51:18 +0000 From: "Huw Johnson" To: Subject: [PDF] RE: Bitmap images Distiller 3 vs 4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA19184 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >>> >I thought I'd report back my findings - after several weeks on hold to Adobe Customer Support here in the UK, I got through! Apologies if you all know this, but I've had no response from the list. > >Adobe say that, yes, Distiller 4 has a recognised bugs in relation to the Compression tab: > >* Monochrome images. Resampling to 300dpi always occurs even if you have no resampling set. (This on some builds of v4 at least.) >* Greyscale images. Resampling never occurs, whatever you set. > ... etc. Just a quick post to say thanks to those who reponded on this one. I got an offline message from Adobe to say that the bugs I described have been fixed in the upcoming release of Acrobat. And Mike Jahn proved it for us. Apparently, at Seybold, Adobe said the patch release would be out by Nov 30. We are late to v4, so the wait shouldn't be too painful. I'm still gob-smacked at how serious the bugs are in a v4 product, but Bryan Guignard's right (wise words) - Acrobat's a killer product and it just keeps building... despite. Thanks again for your input and your time, Huw Johnson Institute of Physics Publishing, UK ********************************************************************** IOP Publishing Ltd. Registered No 467514 England This e-mail message has been swept by MIMEsweeper using Sophos Sweep for the presence of computer viruses. ********************************************************************** ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Nov-1999 17:03:55-GMT,2705;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09141 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:03:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA20409; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 11:00:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:55:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19981; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:55:33 -0600 From: "Chris Humphrys" To: "Pdf developers Zone (E-mail)" Subject: [PDFdev] How can I auto-install a plug-in? Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 09:55:47 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bf27ae$9c28de20$2800a8c0@fmp400> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVES: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com PDFdev is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com _____________________________________________________________ Hi, I have developed a plug-in which customizes the toolbar when the user opens a particular PDF. This particular PDF is a catalog which will be distributed to customers on a CD along with a copy of Acrobat Reader. I need to be able to copy the plug-in into the Reader\Plug_ins directory before the user opens the catalog with Reader. My problem is I'm not sure where the user is going to install Reader, so where do I copy the plug-in to? I've downloaded plug-ins before and they've somehow automatically been installed in the proper directory. Does anyone know how this is done? Thanks in advance for any feedback. Chris Humphrys B.Sc. B.Ed. Programmer Analyst FMP Management Partners Suite 200, 937 Fir Street Sherwood Park, Alberta T8A 4N6 Mail to: chrishumphrys@fmpgroup.com Web Site: www.fmpgroup.com Phone: 780.464.6011 Fax: 780.464.6192 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Nov-1999 19:30:25-GMT,2374;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12026 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 12:30:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03349; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:22:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:20:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02914; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:20:20 -0600 Message-ID: <3821DCB8.5EC3DB91@wanadoo.fr> Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 20:21:28 +0100 From: "Lausseur.aalto" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [fr] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acro3 and Acro4 readers References: <001601bf26c3$844732c0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am not able to judge the english message, but on the other hand the french translation is coldly imperative: "Uninstall Acrobat V3.0x and reboot your computer before installing version 4.0". However, you are right, after clicking OK you are still able to install V4 if you don't do it. Adobe should not hire former military staff as translators. Michel Lausseur Aalto Consultant Aandi Inston a écrit : > Personally, I don't understand what is so difficult about > the message. It is clear and explicit. However, you are quite > right - the message is almost universally misinterpreted, so > it must be a lot less clear than it seems. Or, as I suspect, > people are conditioned NOT to read long messages. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Nov-1999 19:48:44-GMT,2163;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12321 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 12:48:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05081; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:37:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:35:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04878; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:35:50 -0600 Subject: [PDF] Problem Getting Prologue.ps To Work Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:36:58 -0500 x-sender: geoffm@mail.novainc.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Geoff Manning To: "PDFZone" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1270378384-6063562@novainc.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have a prologue.ps file that I was sent to help me avoid getting a particular offending command error while Distilling. I set it up fine about 4 months ago and now have to install it again on another computer. I can't seem to get it to work this time. Could someone list the steps involved in setting up a prologue.ps and epilogue.ps file to work with Distiller 4.0 (The online documentation on this subject is quite vague) Thanks a lot ______________________ Geoff Manning Nova Marketing Production Dept. Quincy, MA 02169 617-770-0304 Ext. 26 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Nov-1999 20:00:11-GMT,2968;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12479 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:00:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07391; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:53:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:51:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06986; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:51:24 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acro3 and Acro4 readers Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:51:08 -0000 Message-ID: <000401bf26fd$f0808880$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3821DCB8.5EC3DB91@wanadoo.fr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I am not able to judge the english message, but on the other hand the > french translation is coldly imperative: "Uninstall Acrobat V3.0x and > reboot your computer before installing version 4.0". > > > Personally, I don't understand what is so difficult about > > the message. It is clear and explicit. However, you are quite > > right - the message is almost universally misinterpreted, so > > it must be a lot less clear than it seems. Or, as I suspect, > > people are conditioned NOT to read long messages. This is interesting. The English message reads: "Acrobat 3.0x currently exists on your system. Problems will occur if 3.0 is uninstalled after 4.0 is installed. This would require 4.0 to be reinstalled. If you choose to uninstall Acrobat 3.0x, please do so and restart your computer before installing Acrobat 4.0." But perhaps the translator could not follow it. There is another possibility. The message is very close to 255 characters (which is considered to be infinity by lazy programmers). Perhaps there was not enough room for a translated version. I shall have to ask the next time I see people confused by the message, what language they were using. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Nov-1999 20:13:10-GMT,3092;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12667 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:13:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08827; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:03:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:02:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08654; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:02:15 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 15:06:12 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Problem Getting Prologue.ps To Work From: "dan still" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1270376801-5895285@bennettgraphics.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ If you are using watched folders you will need to put the file loose in the watched folder or folders. As well put a copy loose in the distiller folder, and be sure to turn on the allow prolouge and epilouge ps function in the distiller settings. ---------- >From: Geoff Manning >To: "PDFZone" >Subject: [PDF] Problem Getting Prologue.ps To Work >Date: Thu, Nov 4, 1999, 2:36 PM > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > I have a prologue.ps file that I was sent to help me avoid getting a > particular offending command error while Distilling. I set it up fine > about 4 months ago and now have to install it again on another computer. > I can't seem to get it to work this time. Could someone list the steps > involved in setting up a prologue.ps and epilogue.ps file to work with > Distiller 4.0 (The online documentation on this subject is quite vague) > > Thanks a lot > > ______________________ > Geoff Manning > Nova Marketing > Production Dept. > Quincy, MA 02169 > 617-770-0304 Ext. 26 > > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Nov-1999 20:28:54-GMT,2611;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12851 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:28:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10839; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:21:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:20:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10617; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:20:00 -0600 Message-ID: <010d01bf2701$ee3a1e20$484801d8@tpsitulsa.com> From: "Fadel F. Iskander" To: References: Subject: Re: [PDF] Indexing PDF files Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:19:27 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thanks Duff, > > Did I skip an option during the "typical" installation? > > I think you are looking at Acrobat Reader 4.0 without the Search plugin > installed. You need either Acrobat 4.0, or Acrobat Reader with Search in > order to get Search functionality. You are right, I was using a PC with just the reader. > > Yes... but it's a totally different requirement from the issue I answered > above. For what you're describing, you need a web-server based security and > access setup. Visit Glyphica (www.glyphica.com) for their infoportal > software -- I think it'll do exactly what you want. Thanks for the advice, I visited their site, and filled one of their forms. Fadel F. Iskander Vice President, TPSi http://www.tpsitulsa.com > > Duff Johnson > President, Document Solutions, Inc. > http://www.document-solutions.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Nov-1999 15:37:34-GMT,2413;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03069 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 08:37:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA31133; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 09:24:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 09:15:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA30148; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 09:15:38 -0600 Message-ID: <19991109151526.92858.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [193.174.28.182] From: "Marcus Holland" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Problems printing TeX-generated PDF files Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 16:15:22 CET Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I prepare most of my documents with TeX and use dvips and ghostscript (5.93) to convert them to PDF. I use the Acrobat Reader as a previewer and printing tool. This works fine in most cases. But if I have documents containing math expressions with large brackets, the lower parts of these brackets are not printed on non-postscript printers. (I've tested with my LaserJet 5L and Epson Stylus Photo.) If I use a postscript printer, everything is printed. On the screen, the brackets are also displayed completely. (All of the embedded TeX fonts are Type 1 fonts from the BaKoMa collection.) I assume this to be a bug in the Reader or in the Windows printer drivers. Does anyone know anything about this problem? Thanks, Marcus (mhx@gmx.de) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Nov-1999 16:44:57-GMT,2830;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04213 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 09:44:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06590; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 10:33:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 10:31:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06288; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 10:31:37 -0600 From: Ihor Prociuk Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 11:30:50 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: Slow Graphic Rendering in Acrobat 4 In-Reply-To: <19991109151526.92858.qmail@hotmail.com> References: <19991109151526.92858.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: X-Mailer: Execmail for Win32 Version 5.0.1 Beta 1 Build (50) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello Listers: I've successfully created a PDF document using the Adobe-supplied Word 97 macro (PDFMaker). It has worked well with the previous release and the most recent (out-of-the-box) version of PDFMaker supplied with the Acrobat 4 CD. In the two examples below, the source document is the same. The "old" version was created with Distiller 3.01/PDF 1.2. The "new" version was Distiller 4.0/PDF 1.2. www.utoronto.ca/ic/gctest/pap/policies/acadmin.pdf -- old version www.utoronto.ca/ic/gctest/pap/policies/acadmin4.pdf -- new version In the "new" version the graphic on the first page (originally a GIF file embedded in the Word document) renders really s-l-o-w-l-y. It's pretty fast in the "old" version. I've tried looking at it from different PCs and from a Mac. I tried creating the PDF on a different PC. I even used the Adobe web-based "Create Adobe PDF" service. In all cases the same problem occurs. If I access the PDF from my local hard disk, the graphic renders quickly in both cases. Any ideas on why this is happening? ----------------------- Sincerely yours, Ihor Prociuk Information Commons ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Nov-1999 18:11:55-GMT,2531;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05612 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 11:11:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16466; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 12:04:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 12:02:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA16176; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 12:02:07 -0600 Message-ID: <3828640C.B2008F16@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 14:12:28 -0400 From: Bryan Guignard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Slow Graphic Rendering in Acrobat 4 References: <19991109151526.92858.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I tried them both and found no significant difference in speed between them. Actually, both documents seem to behave pretty normally on my system. Bryan Guignard > www.utoronto.ca/ic/gctest/pap/policies/acadmin.pdf -- old version > www.utoronto.ca/ic/gctest/pap/policies/acadmin4.pdf -- new version > > In the "new" version the graphic on the first page (originally a GIF file > embedded in the Word document) renders really s-l-o-w-l-y. It's pretty fast in > the "old" version. I've tried looking at it from different PCs and from a Mac. > I tried creating the PDF on a different PC. I even used the Adobe web-based > "Create Adobe PDF" service. In all cases the same problem occurs. If I access > the PDF from my local hard disk, the graphic renders quickly in both cases. > > Any ideas on why this is happening? ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Nov-1999 22:06:41-GMT,2810;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09073 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 15:06:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA09092; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 15:58:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 15:57:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA08976; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 15:57:19 -0600 Message-ID: <38289B30.6C891989@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 18:07:44 -0400 From: Bryan Guignard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Problems creating .pdf file References: <41DF35AC1276D311A47A0050BAAC9566F4FF@OUTPOST> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I'm having problems creating a .pdf file and I think it might be with the > Distiller... but not sure. > > 1. I'm using Word '97 with the PDFMaker installed cause I want the bookmark > and table of content in the .pdf. > 2. When PDFMaker is done, Distiller opens... OK. > 3. Distiller converts to 100%... then the problem. > > Instead of opening in Exchange, it gives me a GPF in the AcroDist.exe. > > I'm baffled... I've been on this for 7 hours and tried the following: > > a) uninstalled both the PDFMaker and Acrobat... ummm say 6-7 times, and > still no luck. > b) I tried creating the .ps file through the acrobat drivers, then Distill > it to pdf... no luck. > > Any tips and tricks would be appreciated. Aline, It's hard to give you something clear cut (at least for me it is). However from my personal experience I have found that many such problems and crashes occur when something like a www utility (auto email notification, net accelerator) is running in the background. Some of these gadgets are very inconsiderate of other apps. I can't even use my SCSI scanner when these gadgets are running. Hope this helps. Bryan Guignard ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Nov-1999 22:06:41-GMT,2384;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09072 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 15:06:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07942; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 15:49:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 15:47:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07715; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 15:46:59 -0600 Message-ID: <41DF35AC1276D311A47A0050BAAC9566F4FF@OUTPOST> From: Aline Damphousse To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Problems creating .pdf file Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 16:47:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I'm having problems creating a .pdf file and I think it might be with the Distiller... but not sure. 1. I'm using Word '97 with the PDFMaker installed cause I want the bookmark and table of content in the .pdf. 2. When PDFMaker is done, Distiller opens... OK. 3. Distiller converts to 100%... then the problem. Instead of opening in Exchange, it gives me a GPF in the AcroDist.exe. I'm baffled... I've been on this for 7 hours and tried the following: a) uninstalled both the PDFMaker and Acrobat... ummm say 6-7 times, and still no luck. b) I tried creating the .ps file through the acrobat drivers, then Distill it to pdf... no luck. Any tips and tricks would be appreciated. Thanks. Aline Damphousse One Antares Drive, Suite 110 Nepean, Ontario Canada K2E 8C4 adamphousse@kyberpass.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Nov-1999 23:49:41-GMT,1751;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA10689 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 16:49:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA19490; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 17:40:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 17:37:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA19230; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 17:37:53 -0600 Message-Id: <199911092347.RAA03598@greatwest.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 17:42:24 -0600 Subject: [PDF] PDF in e-mail From: "Joan Wagner" To: pdf info , pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is there a way to put a pdf file into the message area of an e-mail without it being an attachment? ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Nov-1999 0:14:45-GMT,3295;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA10941 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 17:14:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA21761; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:03:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:02:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA21623; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:02:07 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 19:02:03 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF in e-mail From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991110000012.NNQD12070.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Yes, just like some emails are full HTML sites/pages inside the email window. You can set them up following the same information, and put the PDF inside a HTML Page as the only thing. When the PDF is encountered it will access the PDF plug-in. However, I would recommend that you ensure the recipient knows its coming, unless its a real small file... -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." (613) 824-2243 EST PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com Articles of Interest (PDF): http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html Web Site of Interest (PDF): http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf ---------- >From: "Joan Wagner" >To: pdf info , pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: [PDF] PDF in e-mail >Date: Tue, Nov 9, 1999, 6:42 PM > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Is there a way to put a pdf file into the message area of an e-mail without > it being an attachment? > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Nov-1999 0:31:54-GMT,2323;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA11056 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 17:31:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA23681; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:22:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:20:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA23428; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:20:54 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991109192730.009c9570@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 19:27:30 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF in e-mail In-Reply-To: <199911092347.RAA03598@greatwest.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Is there a way to put a pdf file into the message area of an e-mail without >it being an attachment? > Can you explain a little further what you want to have happen as the result of this? I don't understand what you're after here. You could put a link to a pdf on the net into the message, a la ftp://rdpslides.com/ORDERFRM.PDF which seems to work for some browser/Acrobat combos and not for others. Never had a bit of luck with it myself, go figure. YMMV. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Nov-1999 0:51:06-GMT,2672;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA11206 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 17:51:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA25473; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:40:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:39:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA25290; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:39:17 -0600 Message-ID: Message-ID: From: Salina Chan To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Capture Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 13:42:07 +1300 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi All Hope this is the right place to ask...I have been trying to use Capture 1.0 that come with the Acrobat 4.0 Mac version I bought. I managed to capture the pages, use the touch-up text tool to type my changes on words I want to correct, but how do I get rid of the funny bitmappy suspect bits sitting in the same place as the words I have just typed? Everytime I am correcting the words, Acrobat4 quits by itself with an error -2 or -3. Is it a memory problem (I have since partitioned more memory to Acrobat but it's not working properly) Help on both problems would be much appreciated! Salina Chan BCHF, New Zealand NOTICE - This e-mail is only intended to be read by the named recipient. It may contain information which is confidential, proprietary or the subject of legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. You may not use any information contained in it. Legal privilege is not waived because you have read this e-mail. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Nov-1999 1:05:39-GMT,2221;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA11308 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:05:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA26061; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:45:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:44:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA25942; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:44:19 -0600 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:42:21 +0900 (JST) From: TOMITA Shigenari Message-Id: <199911100042.JAA26127@max.icu.ac.jp> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: ts@icu.ac.jp In-reply-to: <199911092347.RAA03598@greatwest.net> (joan_wagner@avreafoster.com) Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF in e-mail Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Joan, Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 17:42:24 -0600 From: "Joan Wagner" Is there a way to put a pdf file into the message area of an e-mail without it being an attachment? Yes, you can. But it's not good sometime. Well, your e-mail message including a PDF doc which is encoded and compressed may be fat, so recipients may have to do so many steps to view it because e-mail handling program (both client and server side) may split into several messages. I think easy ways to share PDF docs are using HTTP(S) or FTP. (I think this topic had discussed several times... :) -- Tomita ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Nov-1999 1:22:27-GMT,2357;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA11440 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:22:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA29042; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 19:14:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 19:13:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA28850; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 19:12:59 -0600 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Capture Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 17:18:20 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Salina: > Hope this is the right place to ask... ...sort of. The Capture listserv, also hosted by PDFZone, is for the discussion of Capture-realted issues. >I have been trying to > use Capture 1.0 > that come with the Acrobat 4.0 Mac version I bought. I > managed to capture > the pages, use the touch-up text tool to type my changes on > words I want to > correct, but how do I get rid of the funny bitmappy suspect > bits sitting in > the same place as the words I have just typed? On the PC version, you have to enable... Tools -- Paper Capture -- Show Capture Suspects Then, you can Accept (or not) Capture suspects (the nasty bitmappy things) using the Touch-up tool. Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. www.document-solutions.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Nov-1999 2:35:28-GMT,2978;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA11962 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 19:35:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA02277; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 20:23:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 20:22:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA02117; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 20:22:05 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19991110000012.NNQD12070.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> References: <19991110000012.NNQD12070.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 21:21:38 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF in e-mail Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id UAA02106 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 7:02 PM -0500 11/9/99, Jason Belec wrote: >Yes, just like some emails are full HTML sites/pages inside the email >window. HTML mail is a evil entity created by a bunch of lazy programmers who couldn't properly implement the proper standards (MIME). Please do NOT put more of it on the net - we want LESS! >You can set them up following the same information, and put the PDF >inside a HTML Page as the only thing. When the PDF is encountered it will >access the PDF plug-in. AFAIK, there is only ONE EMail client that supports this - Outlook on Windows. None of the clients on MacOS will do this, and certainly none of them on Linux/Solaris/etc. Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Nov-1999 14:10:03-GMT,4167;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA20620 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 07:10:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA26764; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:02:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:01:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26503; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:01:49 -0600 Message-ID: <41DF35AC1276D311A47A0050BAAC9566F500@OUTPOST> From: Aline Damphousse To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Problems creating .pdf file Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:02:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Bryan, Thanks for your reply :) I did take that into consideration. I closed all programs except for the Acrobat ones and Word, but still no go. I have 4 operating systems on my system (NT and '95 French and English), and so far I was successful with '95 but only for one document. The first document converted smoothly. With my 2nd document however, it only created the Table of Content. It did not create/include the index. Strange since I see the PDFMaker go through all the headers. I still have one operating system to try it on. Hopefully, that one will work. Otherwise I'm still clueless. Could the Word SR have anything to do with it. I have SR2 installed. Thanks, Aline. > -----Original Message----- > From: Bryan Guignard [SMTP:bryang@nbnet.nb.ca] > Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 5:08 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Problems creating .pdf file > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > > I'm having problems creating a .pdf file and I think it might be with > the > > Distiller... but not sure. > > > > 1. I'm using Word '97 with the PDFMaker installed cause I want the > bookmark > > and table of content in the .pdf. > > 2. When PDFMaker is done, Distiller opens... OK. > > 3. Distiller converts to 100%... then the problem. > > > > Instead of opening in Exchange, it gives me a GPF in the AcroDist.exe. > > > > I'm baffled... I've been on this for 7 hours and tried the following: > > > > a) uninstalled both the PDFMaker and Acrobat... ummm say 6-7 times, and > > still no luck. > > b) I tried creating the .ps file through the acrobat drivers, then > Distill > > it to pdf... no luck. > > > > Any tips and tricks would be appreciated. > > Aline, > > It's hard to give you something clear cut (at least for me it is). However > from > my personal experience > I have found that many such problems and crashes occur when something like > a www > utility (auto email notification, net accelerator) is running in the > background. > Some of these gadgets are very inconsiderate of other apps. I can't even > use my > SCSI scanner when these gadgets are running. Hope this helps. > > Bryan Guignard > > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Nov-1999 14:10:01-GMT,3538;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA20616 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 07:10:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA26676; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:02:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:01:02 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26374; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:01:01 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Destiller/PitStop problem! Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:00:52 -0000 Message-ID: <002901bf2b84$00f077e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <382976E2.87AFE9F2@rapidax.se> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > This is my first entry to this list, and I don´t know if there´s > some limitations in how much or what one could ask. If this is too > much or in some way not appropriate for the list, please let me know, > alright! The question is fine, but please be sure not to post "HTML format" mail. Make sure that is turned off before posting or replying, thanks. > When creating a PDF in binary-mode , Pitstop tells us in "general > info" that the document is in ASCII, but doesn´t give us a warning > that it´s NOT in binary mode, even though we have "enforce" or > "caution" if NOT binary. We have created the PDF with "binary" > in distiller and when writing to ps-file from QuarkXpress > Passport 4.04. Why do we get this ASCII-info in PitStop? T 1. In this case forget whether the PostScript file is binary or ASCII. This does not affect how the PDF comes out. There ARE cases where a PDF file contains no binary data, even if you do not choose "ASCII format". For instance, a file with no images, and with "compress text and line art" OFF. Be sure that "compress text and line art" is always on. A question: why do you have any concern whether the PDF is ASCII or binary? I consider ASCII PDFs to be essentially obsolete, they just waste space. > nd another strange thing...our document (Quark 4.04) that included > 3 RGB-images (TIFF, JPEG and EPS) originally, but now, after destilling, > includes 2 images in CMYK..how come??? Distiller NEVER converts to CMYK. Quark WILL often convert RGB TIFF and JPEG to CMYK, but never EPS. > If using the PDF-Writer, we get all images in RGB....but not 3... > we get 5! 2 images have been splitted into 2! I know that we´re not > supposed to use PDF-Writer, but still....:-) Yes, don't use it! Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Nov-1999 14:10:48-GMT,6246;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA20216 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 06:56:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA25047; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 07:46:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 07:44:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA24768; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 07:44:07 -0600 Message-ID: <382976E2.87AFE9F2@rapidax.se> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:45:19 +0100 From: Micke Mirell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDF lista Subject: [PDF] Destiller/PitStop problem! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------75F673AFEE4B3075EFA8372D" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ --------------75F673AFEE4B3075EFA8372D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi! This is my first entry to this list, and I don´t know if there´s some limitations in how much or what one could ask. If this is too much or in some way not appropriate for the list, please let me know, alright! It´s just that these questions are bugging me... I´m using Mac (G3), Quark 4.04, The Acrobat Family and the Enfocus Plug-in called PitStop. I´m hoping some of you are familiar with this enviroment! First two questions is about the Preflight functionality in Pitstop, and the last one is about Acrobat Destiller. 1.When creating a PDF in binary-mode , Pitstop tells us in "general info" that the document is in ASCII, but doesn´t give us a warning that it´s NOT in binary mode, even though we have "enforce" or "caution" if NOT binary. We have created the PDF with "binary" in distiller and when writing to ps-file from QuarkXpress Passport 4.04. Why do we get this ASCII-info in PitStop? The ps-file created from Quark is binary. We´ve seen that in FlightCheck. 2. We do not get a warning from PitStop when we have 3 RGB images in the document, even though we have "enforce" NOT RGB in the ppp (Pitstop Preflight Profile). Under "images" in the report, it tells us RGB...why doesn´t PitStop warn? 3.And another strange thing...our document (Quark 4.04) that included 3 RGB-images (TIFF, JPEG and EPS) originally, but now, after destilling, it includes 2 images in CMYK..how come??? What are we doing wrong? We checked the ps-file with flightcheck..and it contains 3 RGB images as supposed, so it´s the Destiller that does something very strange...the Joboptions used is ok (leave color unchanged and no compression)..actually we´ve tried to change almost everything! One more thing: If using the PDF-Writer, we get all images in RGB....but not 3...we get 5! 2 images have been splitted into 2! I know that we´re not supposed to use PDF-Writer, but still....:-) Ok, that´s all for now...if some of you want any of my documents for try-out (in my dreams...), just mail me ok?! Best wishes, Micke Mirell, Rapidax, Sweden --------------75F673AFEE4B3075EFA8372D Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi!
This is my first entry to this list, and I don´t know if there´s some limitations in how much or what one could ask. If this is too much or in some way not appropriate for the list, please let me know, alright! It´s just that these questions are bugging me...

I´m using Mac (G3), Quark 4.04, The Acrobat Family and the Enfocus Plug-in called PitStop. I´m hoping some of you are familiar with this enviroment! First two questions is about the Preflight functionality in Pitstop, and the last one is about Acrobat Destiller.
 

1.When creating a PDF in binary-mode , Pitstop tells us in "general info" that the document is in ASCII, but doesn´t give us a warning that it´s NOT in binary mode, even though we have "enforce" or "caution" if NOT binary. We have created the PDF with "binary" in distiller and when writing to ps-file from QuarkXpress Passport 4.04. Why do we get this ASCII-info in PitStop? The ps-file created from Quark is binary. We´ve seen that in FlightCheck.

2. We do not get a warning from PitStop when we have 3 RGB images in the document, even though we have "enforce"
NOT RGB in the ppp (Pitstop Preflight Profile). Under "images" in the report, it tells us RGB...why doesn´t PitStop warn?

3.And another strange thing...our document (Quark 4.04) that included 3 RGB-images (TIFF, JPEG and EPS) originally, but now, after destilling, it includes 2 images in CMYK..how come??? What are we doing wrong? We checked the ps-file with flightcheck..and it contains 3 RGB images as supposed, so it´s the Destiller that does something very strange...the Joboptions used is ok (leave color unchanged and no compression)..actually we´ve tried to change almost everything! One more thing: If using the PDF-Writer, we get all images in RGB....but not 3...we get 5! 2 images have been splitted into 2! I know that we´re not supposed to use PDF-Writer, but still....:-)

Ok, that´s all for now...if some of you want any of my documents for try-out (in my dreams...), just mail me ok?!

Best wishes,
Micke Mirell, Rapidax, Sweden
<micke@rapidax.se> --------------75F673AFEE4B3075EFA8372D-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Nov-1999 15:11:09-GMT,6933;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA21768 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 07:46:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA31483; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:39:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:38:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA31311; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:38:34 -0600 From: chuck.davis@ihs.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: IHS To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <87256825.004F7B57.00@domino.ihs.com> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 07:33:28 -0700 Subject: RE: [PDF] What Acrobat Reader versions support PDF 1.3? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=Ew4O0AI1mewYzKDs1U4hCJEpHmlMOMHQqBow8FZMQo9Utz9IwgF0NVeY" Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ --0__=Ew4O0AI1mewYzKDs1U4hCJEpHmlMOMHQqBow8FZMQo9Utz9IwgF0NVeY Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Thank you for the feedback. I also thought that 1.3 was only compatible with version 4.0, but I got a copy of Acrobat Reader 3.0 and it opens the files that are PDF 1.3. I also noticed that the Producer was "Acrobat PDFWriter 3.02 for Windows". If it is produced with version 3.02 of PDFWriter then is should be compatible with version 3.0 of reader. I am still surprised this works. Chuck > What versions of Acrobat Reader support PDF v1.3? 4.0 > Are there specific advantages and disadvantages to using 1.3 > over 1.2. Advantage of 1.3: new features. Advantage of 1.2: compatibility with Acrobat (Reader) 3.0 and other PDF consumers including embedded printers. > Are there features in v1.3 that are not supported in older > Acrobat Reader versions. Yes. Interesting ones include masked images, allowing an image to be painted through a bitmap or have a "key" transparent colour; smooth shading; support for embedded ICC profiles (broken in Distiller 4.0); and support for marking multiple spot plates ("DeviceN"). 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Wed, 10 Nov 1999 07:28:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA28792; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:19:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:18:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA28620; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:18:26 -0600 From: Shellie619@AOL.COM Message-ID: <0.8b225225.255ad89d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:18:05 EST Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF in e-mail To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 52 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am trying to add custom buttons to PDF file - buttons are photoshop files with clipping paths. When I import these into a PDF file, I am not able to keep the clipping path around the object - Any suggestions? Shellie629@aol.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Nov-1999 15:11:23-GMT,2540;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA21485 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 07:37:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA30039; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:27:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:26:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29902; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:26:52 -0600 Message-ID: <3D62AB6FFC80D211A84700104B10CB2C03393B84@denver.quark.com> From: Todd Reid To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Destiller/PitStop problem! Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 07:25:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ <<... And another strange thing...our document (Quark 4.04) that included 3 RGB-images (TIFF, JPEG and EPS) originally, but now, after destilling, it includes 2 images in CMYK..how come>> Micke Mirell, Rapidax, Sweden Micke, Regarding the above part of the problems you've been having: your images are cmyk because that's how QuarkXPress sends its color information in the postscript. If you would like to retain the rgb information, go to Quark's website ( http://www.quark.com/ ), to the Downloads area, and download the PrintRGB XTension. This will allow you, on the Setup tab in your print dialog, to print Composite RGB, retaining the rgb information in the postscript data stream for images or colors that are in the rgb color space. Also, I would recommend that you NOT use PDFWriter with QuarkXPress, as the two just don't work well together. Todd Reid Quark, Inc. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Nov-1999 15:11:29-GMT,3510;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA21267 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 07:29:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA28736; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:19:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:17:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA28565; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:17:54 -0600 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 06:17:49 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Destiller/PitStop problem! From: Rich Sprague To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <382976E2.87AFE9F2@rapidax.se> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA28561 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > From: Micke Mirell > I´m using Mac (G3), Quark 4.04, The Acrobat Family and the Enfocus > Plug-in called PitStop. I´m hoping some of you are familiar with this > enviroment! First two questions is about the Preflight functionality in > Pitstop, and the last one is about Acrobat Destiller. > > 3.And another strange thing...our document (Quark 4.04) that included 3 > RGB-images (TIFF, JPEG and EPS) originally, but now, after destilling, > it includes 2 images in CMYK..how come??? What are we doing wrong? We > checked the ps-file with flightcheck..and it contains 3 RGB images as > supposed, so it´s the Destiller that does something very strange...the > Joboptions used is ok (leave color unchanged and no > compression). You don't mention whether you have Quark's color management turned on. If so, this may be why your RGB images are being converted to CMYK. You may also have some sort of Xtension in Quark which converts RGB to CMYK. I took an RGB image, placed it in Quark, printed a PS file, then Distilled it with the default Optimized Settings in Acrobat 4.05 (beta). The image remained RGB. You can also changed the settings in Distiller so as to convert all CMYK images to RGB. Or, there is a free Xtension available from Quark called PrintRGB which will also force Quark to retain RGB color. Hope this helps. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Nov-1999 15:18:33-GMT,3283;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA22941 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:18:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02168; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:10:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:08:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01848; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:08:48 -0600 Message-ID: <38298ABE.15F43EF2@rapidax.se> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:09:54 +0100 From: Micke Mirell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Destiller/PitStop problem! References: <002901bf2b84$00f077e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Wow! Thank you all for this response! > Aandi: > "The question is fine, but please be sure not to post "HTML format" > mail. Make sure that is turned off before posting or replying, thanks." Never again!! > "A question: why do you have any concern whether the PDF is ASCII > or binary? I consider ASCII PDFs to be essentially obsolete, they > just waste space." Yes, you´re right.The thing is that we´re trying to evaluate the PitStop plug-in in an test enviroment to see if Pistop is a good idea for customers preflighting on their own, before sending th PDF to a imaging center. We are students doing "The Master Thesis Project" for The Institute of Graphics Arts and Media Production, KTH, Stockholm...and when we are coming to an conclusion our institute wanna know things like that! > "Yes, don't use it!" Never again! Rich: "You don't mention whether you have Quark's color management turned on. If so, this may be why your RGB images are being converted to CMYK. You may also have some sort of Xtension in Quark which converts RGB to CMYK." I gotta look into that ....but when we have created a ps-file, and placing it into Markzware FlighCheck, it tells us that all images still are in RGB. "You can also changed the settings in Distiller so as to convert all CMYK images to RGB. Or, there is a free Xtension available from Quark called PrintRGB which will also force Quark to retain RGB color." I´ll try that!! "Hope this helps" Me too.. :-) So thanks again, Todd, Rich , Aandi and Dave (I´ll mail you, Dave, when the files are there!) Regards, Micke Mirell ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Nov-1999 15:24:47-GMT,2267;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA23044 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:24:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02303; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:11:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:10:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02037; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:10:07 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF in e-mail Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:09:55 -0000 Message-ID: <002b01bf2b8d$a6377a60$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <0.8b225225.255ad89d@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I am trying to add custom buttons to PDF file - buttons are > photoshop files > with clipping paths. When I import these into a PDF file, I > am not able to > keep the clipping path around the object - Any suggestions? It isn't clear how you are "importing" Photoshop files into PDF, since there are so many different ways to do it. But I'm pretty sure there is only one way that will work: save the Photoshop files as EPS with a clipping path, and convert to PDF with Distiller. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Nov-1999 15:36:38-GMT,3107;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA23220 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:36:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04283; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:27:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:23:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03866; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:23:07 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991110150640.00bf0dc0@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-Sender: martinb@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:06:40 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, From: Martin Bailey Subject: RE: [PDF] Destiller/PitStop problem! In-Reply-To: <002901bf2b84$00f077e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: <382976E2.87AFE9F2@rapidax.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 14:00 10/11/99 -0000, Aandi Inston wrote: >A question: why do you have any concern whether the PDF is ASCII >or binary? I consider ASCII PDFs to be essentially obsolete, they >just waste space. I have found in a few instances that ASCII PDFs are more robust over email or FTP. Yes, they are still damaged by transmission as ASCII (and may even be more susceptible to that damage because tools are less likely to recognise them as requiring binary transmission), but the repair functions in various applications like Acrobat Reader and the Harlequin RIP are guaranteed to be able to fix any problems caused by line end conversion. Transmitting a 'binary' PDF as text is likely to damage it in a way that cannot be reliably repaired. Regards Martin Bailey ------------------------------------------------------------- Senior Technical Consultant martinb@harlequin.com Digital Print & Publishing +44 1223 873800 Harlequin http://www.harlequin.com ------------------------------------------------------------- If my views didn't usually coincide with those of my employer I probably wouldn't work here, but I am not a spokesman for Harlequin and the buck stops with me for what I say. ------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Nov-1999 15:50:47-GMT,2188;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA23517 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:50:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06184; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:42:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:40:47 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05938; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:40:47 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Kenney, Sharon" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Open Reader in a web table cell? Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:35:00 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello All: This is my first entry to the pdf list. Question: Is it possible open Acrobat Reader inside a certain cell of a table on an html web page? I can get this to work using a frameset document, but we were trying to avoid using frames on our web site. I need to make some reference documents available for viewing/printing, but would like to also keep the look and feel of our standard web pages which are based on tables. I will lose some of my other page features if I have to go to frames. Suggestions? Thanks! Sharon Kenney Mgr., Tech Communications First American Nationwide Documents ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Nov-1999 15:51:49-GMT,2930;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA23541 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:51:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA05310; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:35:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:34:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05142; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:34:40 -0600 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 07:34:35 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] What Acrobat Reader versions support PDF 1.3? From: Rich Sprague To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <87256825.004F7B57.00@domino.ihs.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > From: chuck.davis@ihs.com > Thank you for the feedback. I also thought that 1.3 was only compatible > with version 4.0, but I got a copy of Acrobat Reader 3.0 and it opens the > files that are PDF 1.3. I also noticed that the Producer was "Acrobat > PDFWriter 3.02 for Windows". If it is produced with version 3.02 of > PDFWriter then is should be compatible with version 3.0 of reader. I am > still surprised this works. To ensure compatibility between Acrobat 3 and 4, one should choose Acrobat 3 compatibility when making a PDF file with Distiller 4. However, if one makes a PDF in Distiller (or PDFWriter) 3.x, and opens and saves the document in Acrobat 4, the PDF version will change from 1.2 to 1.3. Unless one has used Acrobat 4 features when editing the 1.2 file, the file should open without problems in Reader 3. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague, Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress (916) 852-5900 Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-8956 fax PDF/Acrobat Consulting rsprague@infomania.com http://www.infomania.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Nov-1999 16:13:33-GMT,2214;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24141 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:13:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08494; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:58:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:57:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA08368; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:57:32 -0600 Message-Id: <199911101557.HAA12348@wren.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 07:59:37 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF in e-mail From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I'm pretty sure there is only one way that will work: save > the Photoshop files as EPS with a clipping path, and convert > to PDF with Distiller. After you do that, create a Field (Type: Button) on your target PDF file. Set the Options/Layout for "Icon only". Then browse to your PDF version of the clipped path EPS. Be sure to turn off the background color in Appearance. The resulting button is fully scalable. -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.pdfresearch.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Nov-1999 16:58:28-GMT,2337;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24994 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 09:58:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA13647; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 10:41:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 10:39:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA13256; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 10:39:08 -0600 From: rick.sapir@glbsoft.com Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:31:19 -0500 To: skenney@firstam.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Open Reader in a web table cel Receipt-Requested-To: rick.sapir@gsntone.glbsoft.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221040958/221001528/221100226/300440919/ Message-Id: <99Nov10.114118est.34563@gateway.glbsoft.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA13252 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ You can use the tag to have a PDF in a specific cell of a table. -----Original Message----- From: skenney@firstam.com Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 11:51 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Open Reader in a web table cell? Hello All: This is my first entry to the pdf list. Question: Is it possible open Acrobat Reader inside a certain cell of a table on an html web page? [snip] ---End Original Message--- +-------------------> | Rick Sapir | Global Software, Inc. | Raleigh, NC USA | rick.sapir@glbsoft.com +-------------------> ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Nov-1999 17:16:22-GMT,2094;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25288 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 10:16:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17314; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:03:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:02:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA16996; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 11:02:07 -0600 Message-ID: <41DF35AC1276D311A47A0050BAAC9566F501@OUTPOST> From: Aline Damphousse To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Graphics... some color some B/W Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:02:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I'm puzzled with the results in my .pdf.... Aside from not being able to produce my index (although PDFMaker is installed) some of my graphics display in color while others display in B/W. I verified my styles in Word, and while they all have the same style, graphics still display incorrectly. Quality is another story, but not my concern for now. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks. Aline Damphousse One Antares Drive, Suite 110 Nepean, Ontario Canada K2E 8C4 adamphousse@kyberpass.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Nov-1999 19:21:23-GMT,1839;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27216 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:21:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA30210; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 13:10:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 13:08:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29889; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 13:08:27 -0600 Message-Id: <63DBC6BC8035D311AF570008C739748E020DA00B@torex169.tor.allied.com> From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: Post to PDF listserve Subject: [PDF] Forms function for Form Number Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:08:16 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi - Can one make an online form with Acrobat and indicate that a "form number", previously an incremented sequence of numbers on printed forms, be generated and increase with each access to the form? That is, an electronic unique form number. thx - Rebecca ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Nov-1999 20:17:10-GMT,2250;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28051 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 13:17:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03537; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:08:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:06:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA03365; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:06:52 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991110151333.009bf870@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:13:33 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Graphics... some color some B/W In-Reply-To: <41DF35AC1276D311A47A0050BAAC9566F501@OUTPOST> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >installed) some of my graphics display in color while others display in B/W. >I verified my styles in Word, and while they all have the same style, >graphics still display incorrectly. Quality is another story, but not my >concern for now. It sounds as though you might be using a b/w printer driver to generate PS for Distiller. Use a color driver instead. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Nov-1999 20:29:27-GMT,2173;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28224 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 13:29:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA04413; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:15:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:14:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA04218; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:14:17 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Forms function for Form Number Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:14:07 -0000 Message-ID: <002c01bf2bb8$252ac500$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <63DBC6BC8035D311AF570008C739748E020DA00B@torex169.tor.allied.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Can one make an online form with Acrobat and indicate that a > "form number", > previously an incremented sequence of numbers on printed > forms, be generated > and increase with each access to the form? Not in any simple way. Where would you keep the number? It can't be kept in the form, as Acrobat Reader can't write to a PDF file. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Nov-1999 22:34:42-GMT,2531;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00159 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:34:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18303; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:21:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:18:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17887; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:18:09 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mgavin_list@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <63DBC6BC8035D311AF570008C739748E020DA00B@torex169.tor.allied.com> References: <63DBC6BC8035D311AF570008C739748E020DA00B@torex169.tor.allied.com> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:12:55 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mark Gavin Subject: Re: [PDF] Forms function for Form Number Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Can one make an online form with Acrobat and indicate that a "form number", >previously an incremented sequence of numbers on printed forms, be generated >and increase with each access to the form? > >That is, an electronic unique form number. > >thx - > >Rebecca Rebecca, You could use StampPDF Batch to number the forms on your web server at the time the user requests the form. Then deliver the unique form to the end user. With FDFMerge you can also fill-in the form with information unique to the requester. More information on StampPDF Batch and FDFMerge can be found on our web site at http://www.digapp.com Mark Gavin Vice President, Software Development Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 http://www.digapp.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Nov-1999 1:01:38-GMT,2660;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA02433 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:01:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA01584; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:48:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:45:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA01393; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:45:29 -0600 Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:43:28 +0900 (JST) From: TOMITA Shigenari Message-Id: <199911110043.JAA28895@max.icu.ac.jp> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: ts@icu.ac.jp In-reply-to: <63DBC6BC8035D311AF570008C739748E020DA00B@torex169.tor.allied.com> (Rebecca.Callaway@AlliedSignal.com) Subject: Re: [PDF] Forms function for Form Number Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, From: "Callaway, Rebecca" Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:08:16 -0700 Can one make an online form with Acrobat and indicate that a "form number", previously an incremented sequence of numbers on printed forms, be generated and increase with each access to the form? That is, an electronic unique form number. Aandi's comment is right. It's not an easy task. He knows the following thing, but he didn't comment on this. So I would like to add it... (Yes, he knows many things. Thank you for your contribution, Aandi. :) If your form is on a web server and the sever accepts CGI, you can do it. This kind of CGI scripting is easy for a **new** CGI programmer: lock-read-increment-write-unlock a file containg a serial number, and add the number into FDF data. That's all. It will be 20 ~ 30 lines of code in Perl or Tcl, I guess. With this CGI script, you will be flexible to apply any serial numbering formats for each different forms. -- Tomita ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Nov-1999 1:31:18-GMT,2895;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA03138 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:31:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA04772; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:11:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:08:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA04338; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:08:48 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:09:08 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] What's so bad about 3.0.1? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id TAA04334 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 5:19 PM -0500 11/10/99, Jeff Sauber wrote: >I've been working nicely with Acrobat 3.0.2 at my job for about a >year. Today it was reinstalled, and they put in 3.0.1 by mistake. >I'll probably have to use it a few times before they find the right >version (I can't find an updater on the Adobe page). I know there >are a few bugs in this version, but I don't know what they are. Can >someone clue me in about what to look out for? > Actually, the main changes between 3.0.1 and 3.0.2 were in the AcroForms plug-in. So if you do anything with forms, you want to get 3.0.2 back up VERY quickly - otherwise, you should be fine. Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Nov-1999 1:41:43-GMT,2870;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA03379 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:41:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA07075; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:31:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:28:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA16820; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:07:14 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:06:14 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Settings for Pre-Flighting From: "Leo" To: "Mail List (PDF Zone)" , "Mail List (CTTP)" Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Message-ID: <1269868902-20970551@groupimage.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id QAA16809 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi all, I would like to know how most of you are setting up Acrobat as a Pre-flight stage? I know that there are several ways of setting this up but would like to hear from actual users in production. I would like to set this up on a couple of output stations. The output devices in question are, Avantra FilmSetter & HP2500 Plotter. I would like to know what settings to chose from within; - Quark - which LW (adobps?, the Lw that will finally output the job?) - which ppd (Acrobat distiller or the output device in question?) - font inclusions etc... - Distiller - print optimized? (settings for on-screen proofing etc...) PS: any limitation within Acrobat as a Pre-flight tool? Thank you... _______________________Groupimage__http://www.groupimage.com Leo Ferraro Technical Director(IT) • Groupimage 7070 Beaubien est, Ville d'Anjou Québec H1M 1B2 Tel: (514) 353-9595 Fax: (514) 353-9550 Cell: (514) 816-7617 E-mail: lferraro@groupimage.com ****************************************** In the pursuit of excellence...there is no finish line! >>> ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Nov-1999 1:43:41-GMT,2040;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA03420 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:43:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA06647; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:28:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:24:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA14671; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:48:38 -0600 From: Shellie619@aol.com Message-ID: <0.bbc61240.255b4220@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:48:16 EST Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF in e-mail To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 52 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thanks so much for all you help - IT WORKED!!!! Shellie > I'm pretty sure there is only one way that will work: save > the Photoshop files as EPS with a clipping path, and convert > to PDF with Distiller. After you do that, create a Field (Type: Button) on your target PDF file. Set the Options/Layout for "Icon only". Then browse to your PDF version of the clipped path EPS. Be sure to turn off the background color in Appearance. The resulting button is fully scalable. -- HTH, ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Nov-1999 1:52:53-GMT,3059;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA03633 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:52:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA07555; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:34:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:32:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA07864; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:46:26 -0600 Message-ID: <3829D995.776@concentric.net> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:46:14 -0800 From: David X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdfzone discussion group Subject: [PDF] Freehand to Acrobat conversion probs. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I’m having trouble getting a Freehand 8.01 file to correctly convert to an Acrobat 3.1 file. 1) When I print to PDF from the FH print dialog, the print progress shows pages spooling but “0 kb written”. Acrobat Reader says “Cannot display resulting PDF file because it cannot be found. 2) When I print to file w/”include all fonts” checked, print progress still shows “0 kb written” but postscript document is placed on the desktop. Run Acro. Distiller w/correct fonts folder identified and watched and “embed all fonts” checked. Distill fails: “invalid font; offending command: find font”. 3) Exporting FH file as Mac EPS and running Distiller produces same error msg. as above (item 2) 4) Exporting file as Encapsulated Postscript and distilling yields the same error msg. 5) Exporting from FH as PDF and opening in reader yields doc. w/correct images but substituted fonts 6) Printing to PDF Writer yields Acro. doc. with correct fonts but very degraded image quality despite _no_ image compression applied. I’d be very grateful if anyone could get me on the right track here. Thanks very much in advance. David PMac 7500; 128 Mb; 7.6.1; FH 8.01; Acro. 3.1; PSPrinter 8.3.1. All system fonts in watched fonts folder. All type 1 fonts in “my fonts” folder identified and watched. As far as I can tell, all screen and corresponding printer fonts are present. Acro. error log does not specify any specific font as being missing. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Nov-1999 2:37:09-GMT,2504;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA04499 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:37:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA12019; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:18:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:15:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA11738; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:15:22 -0600 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.2.19991110181257.00ba4100@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:14:27 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] What's so bad about 3.0.1? Cc: "Jeff Sauber" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 11/10/99 02:19 PM , Jeff Sauber wrote: >Hi, folks > >I've been working nicely with Acrobat 3.0.2 at my job for about a year. Today it was reinstalled, and they put in 3.0.1 by mistake. I'll probably have to use it a few times before they find the right version (I can't find an updater on the Adobe page). I know there are a few bugs in this version, but I don't know what they are. Can someone clue me in about what to look out for? > >Thanks, >Jefff Distiller 3.01 is buggier than an entomology lab and more errors than an early Mets game! Reader/Exchange 3.01 without the update has significant non-PostScript printing problems. - Dov ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Nov-1999 2:55:47-GMT,2097;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA04884 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:55:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA30412; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:21:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:18:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA30066; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:18:33 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:19:46 -0500 From: "Jeff Sauber" To: Subject: [PDF] What's so bad about 3.0.1? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id SAA30062 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, folks I've been working nicely with Acrobat 3.0.2 at my job for about a year. Today it was reinstalled, and they put in 3.0.1 by mistake. I'll probably have to use it a few times before they find the right version (I can't find an updater on the Adobe page). I know there are a few bugs in this version, but I don't know what they are. Can someone clue me in about what to look out for? Thanks, Jefff ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Nov-1999 10:56:46-GMT,3341;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA14499 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 03:56:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA19680; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 04:42:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 04:39:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA19180; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 04:38:59 -0600 X-Sender: espresso@sage.e-scape.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:57:51 -0500 To: From: Judyth Mermelstein Subject: [PDF] Re: Disappearing letters... AND TeX-generated PDF files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Michaela Cahillane wrote: >Sometimes when we create PDF files of our Discussion Papers, anytime the >lower-case letters 'f' and 'i' occur together in the document, the PDF shows >a blank space (ie, instead of reading 'findings on fiscal financial >crises', the PDF reads ' ndings on scal nancial crises'.) AND Marcus Holland wrote: >>But if I have documents containing math >>expressions with large brackets, the lower parts of these >>brackets are not printed on non-postscript printers To me (not that I'm a genius or anything), it sounds as if these problems may relate to font discrepancies. Michaela, have you embedded the font containing the ligature character? If not, that might help. Otherwise, you might like to set up the originating program so that it does not substitute the ligature character for the "f" and "i". But I'm curious -- does this not happen with "fl" and other ligatures as well? Marcus, you will not find a non-PostScript printer that can do a good job with PostScript fonts. Even the printing of a non-PostScript scalable font will vary depending on the type of printer used. You might try putting the large bracket into a common font in a slightly smaller size, since the printer may be cutting off the bottom because it is falling below the space allocated for the line. Another possibility is to see whether the printer in question can be set to print in graphics mode, at which point line boundaries become irrelevant. For what it's worth, Regards, Judyth &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& Judyth Mermelstein "cogito ergo lego ergo cogito..." Montreal, Quebec &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Nov-1999 10:57:20-GMT,3202;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA14520 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 03:57:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA19681; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 04:43:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 04:39:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA19234; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 04:39:07 -0600 X-Sender: espresso@sage.e-scape.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:35:39 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Judyth Mermelstein Subject: [PDF] Re: PDF in e-mail Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Joan Wagner writes: >Is there a way to put a pdf file into the message area of an e-mail without >it being an attachment? It is possible these days but I would certainly recommend against it. Sending a PDF as the body of an e-mail seems terribly pointless since: - anyone who can view the PDF can view it just as well with their Reader software if it comes in as an attachment; - anyone who does not have Reader software will not be able to read the PDF with their e-mail software, and will be truly irritated at having to download a very large message for nothing; - many people (myself included) see no reason why information cannot be provided by e-mail in the form of plain text -- i.e., without a duplicate in HTML with a lot of (mostly irrelevant) font and size changes and graphics. If you are looking for a way to send a PDF to specific people who can use it, sending it as an attachment will work fine. If you are trying to offer a PDF document to a lot of people without knowing what they can use, the best way may be to send a plain text message but include a URL (and HREF tag) for the site at which people can download the PDF -- this is an especially good idea if your message will be distributed via a mailing list which some subscribers receive as digests, since either pasting-in or attaching a non-text file will result in a real mess for those people. My opinion, anyway, Judyth &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& Judyth Mermelstein "cogito ergo lego ergo cogito..." Montreal, Quebec &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Nov-1999 13:41:31-GMT,2144;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA15624 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 04:58:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA24930; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 05:46:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 05:42:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA24511; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 05:42:09 -0600 Message-ID: <006a01bf2c3a$1695bae0$62d6523e@none.iddeo.es> From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Carlos_Gonz=E1lez?=" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Freehand to Acrobat conversion probs. Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:43:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Try using "FIT TO PAGE" at the FH print Menu. It worked for us. Just using the PDF Writer. And... Be careful with lines. Acrobat tends to "fatten" them up. If you want to view thin lines, make them really thin to begin with in FH. Something like 0,025 or so... Hope helps.. Carlos. >I’m having trouble getting a Freehand 8.01 file to correctly convert to >an Acrobat 3.1 file. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Nov-1999 18:38:31-GMT,4387;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA25858 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 11:38:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA32738; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:26:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:10:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA29987; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:10:40 -0600 Message-Id: <199911111810.MAA29980@everglades.binc.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:15:32 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat Settings for Pre-Flighting From: "Todd Donahue" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >From: "Leo" >To: "Mail List (PDF Zone)" , "Mail List (CTTP)" >Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Settings for Pre-Flighting >Date: Wed, Nov 10, 1999, 2:06 PM > > I would like to know how most of you are setting up Acrobat as a Pre-flight > stage? I know that there are several ways of setting this up but would like > to hear from actual users in production. > > I would like to set this up on a couple of output stations. > > The output devices in question are, Avantra FilmSetter & HP2500 Plotter. > I would like to know what settings to chose from within; > - Quark > - which LW (adobps?, the Lw that will finally output the job?) > - which ppd (Acrobat distiller or the output device in question?) > - font inclusions etc... > - Distiller > - print optimized? (settings for on-screen proofing etc...) Which PostScript driver, it really doesn't matter. Either the AdobePS 8.6 driver. (Available for download from Adobe's web site) or the Apple LaserWriter driver 8.6.5. They are essentially the same driver, with the main difference being different UI's. You need to use the Distiller PPD when creating a PS file for Distiller. Use your device's PPD when printing from Acrobat. If you would rather not worry about print driver settings, Distiller settings and the like I would recommend our product EZ-PDF. More info and a free 30 day demo version can be had at . > > PS: any limitation within Acrobat as a Pre-flight tool? Distilling a PS file to PDF will tell you two things. 1. The PS file is consumable by Distiller. It is NOT an indication that the PS file will interpret correctly using the device's RIP. However, if you convert to PDF with Distiller and then print from Acrobat you can be fairly certain that it will output with no problems. 2. Visual integrity. By opening the file in the viewer, you can check to see if all required visual elements are correct. Just converting to PDF isn't of itself a preflight step. I would recommend that if you are going to the trouble to convert to PDF in the first place, why not leave things in PDF and output directly from Acrobat to your device. You can preflight your PDF files using a product like PitStop as well as do some editing. You can output and color separate your composite color files using either CrackerJack or PDF Output Pro If you to impose the file, try QuiteImposing . They also make Quite a Box of Tricks that performs a variety of functions, color conversion, image resolution reduction, etc. -- Todd Donahue Acquired Knowledge, Inc. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Nov-1999 19:32:24-GMT,2938;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27204 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:32:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07314; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:10:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:08:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07044; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:08:24 -0600 Message-ID: <41DF35AC1276D311A47A0050BAAC9566F508@OUTPOST> From: Aline Damphousse To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Graphics... some color some B/W Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:09:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thanks Steve, that's exactly what is was :)) Aline adamphousse@kyberpass.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Rindsberg [SMTP:steve@rdpslides.com] > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 3:14 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Graphics... some color some B/W > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > >installed) some of my graphics display in color while others display in > B/W. > >I verified my styles in Word, and while they all have the same style, > >graphics still display incorrectly. Quality is another story, but not my > >concern for now. > > It sounds as though you might be using a b/w printer driver to generate PS > for Distiller. Use a color driver instead. > > Steve Rindsberg > President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau > http://www.rdpslides.com > > Developers of ZAP! > Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus > http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Nov-1999 20:02:53-GMT,2477;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA27991 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:02:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12603; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:48:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:46:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA12369; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:46:45 -0600 Message-ID: <41DF35AC1276D311A47A0050BAAC9566F509@OUTPOST> From: Aline Damphousse To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Index won't generate with PFDMaker Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:47:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi All, I've been trying to generate a .pdf for the past few days and am still struggling. Using Acrobat 3.0 and have PDFMaker for Word installed. I've been successful with many other docs, but not this specific one. When I click on the PDFMaker from Word, it goes through the whole process with indexing and creating the link to the TOC. But when it opens in Exchange, the index is not present, but the toc has its links. Am I missing something? I tried the same with other documents and all is ok, but this specific one won't index. Could it be the size of my doc? It's 220 pages long. I also tried copying/pasting the doc into a new doc excluding the last paragraph marker, but still no results. Would appreciate any tips/tricks you might have to offer. Thanks. Aline Damphousse One Antares Drive, Suite 110 Nepean, Ontario Canada K2E 8C4 adamphousse@kyberpass.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Nov-1999 20:51:39-GMT,3137;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29236 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:51:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18931; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:35:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:34:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18718; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:34:26 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991111154108.009395e0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 15:41:08 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Index won't generate with PFDMaker In-Reply-To: <41DF35AC1276D311A47A0050BAAC9566F509@OUTPOST> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >I've been trying to generate a .pdf for the past few days and am still >struggling. Using Acrobat 3.0 and have PDFMaker for Word installed. I've >been successful with many other docs, but not this specific one. > >When I click on the PDFMaker from Word, it goes through the whole process >with indexing and creating the link to the TOC. But when it opens in >Exchange, the index is not present, but the toc has its links. Am I missing >something? > I haven't used Word's indexing with PDFMaker, just TOCs, so I'm not really familiar with the process. Sounds to me as though you are, having done this with other docs, so we can assume, I think, that it's not pilot error. ISTR that at least some versions of PDFMaker have/had limitations as to the number of links that they'd handle. Perhaps you're going over this limit? What happens if you save this file to a new name, delete half the document, regenerate the TOC and index, then save again, then have another go with PDFMaker? Does it then work? If so, I'd suspect you've run into a PDFMaker limitation. Folks? Can anybody shed more light on what the limits are, exactly? And if Jonathan Woods is out there, this might be a good opp for a comment on the joys of Multi-Linker. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11-Nov-1999 22:24:58-GMT,2827;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01903 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 15:24:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA31703; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:12:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:10:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA31290; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:10:36 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:09:56 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Settings for Pre-Flighting From: "Leo" To: "Mail List (PDF Zone)" Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Message-ID: <1269782285-26180356@groupimage.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id QAA31279 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi all, I would like to know how most of you are setting up Acrobat as a Pre-flight stage? I know that there are several ways of setting this up but would like to hear from actual users in production. I would like to set this up on a couple of output stations. The output devices in question are, Avantra FilmSetter & HP2500 Plotter. I would like to know what settings to chose from within; - Quark - which LW (adobps?, the Lw that will finally output the job?) - which ppd (Acrobat distiller or the output device in question?) - font inclusions etc... - Distiller - print optimized? (settings for on-screen proofing etc...) PS: any limitation within Acrobat as a Pre-flight tool? Thank you... _______________________Groupimage__http://www.groupimage.com Leo Ferraro Technical Director(IT) • Groupimage 7070 Beaubien est, Ville d'Anjou Québec H1M 1B2 Tel: (514) 353-9595 Fax: (514) 353-9550 Cell: (514) 816-7617 E-mail: lferraro@groupimage.com ****************************************** In the pursuit of excellence...there is no finish line! >>> ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Nov-1999 1:54:58-GMT,4176;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA07008 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 18:54:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA21306; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 19:37:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 19:35:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA21039; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 19:35:10 -0600 Message-ID: <003b01bf2cae$aa508ac0$72d4523e@none.iddeo.es> From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Carlos_Gonz=E1lez?=" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Security Settings Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 02:38:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0038_01BF2CB7.0B331E40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01BF2CB7.0B331E40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi SanD: 1.- Open Acrobat 4.0 (not the Reader..) 2.- You don't need to open any file 2.- Select menu File -->Batch Optimize.. (Or Batch Process.. I don't = know the exact english name) 3.- You can set it up all from there. Security, Open commands, Thumbnail = creation/deletion..etc. Carlos. -----Mensaje original----- =20 =20 Is there anyway to set the securitys for a group of PDF files in the = same folder at one time rather then individually. =20 SanD ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01BF2CB7.0B331E40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi SanD:
 
1.- Open Acrobat 4.0 (not the=20 Reader..)
 
2.- You don't need to open any file
 
2.- Select menu   File -->Batch = Optimize.. (Or=20 Batch Process.. I don't know the exact english name)
 
3.- You can set it up all from there. Security, Open = commands,=20 Thumbnail creation/deletion..etc.
 
Carlos.
-----Mensaje=20 original-----
 
Is there anyway to set the securitys for a group = of PDF=20 files in the same folder at one time rather then = individually.
 
SanD
------=_NextPart_000_0038_01BF2CB7.0B331E40-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Nov-1999 3:02:15-GMT,4484;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA08497 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 20:02:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA28581; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 20:53:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 20:51:47 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA28370; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 20:51:43 -0600 Message-ID: <41DF35AC1276D311A47A0050BAAC9566F50C@OUTPOST> From: Aline Damphousse To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Index won't generate with PFDMaker Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:51:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Steve, You were right!! It's funny that you came back to me with this information just now cause about 5 min. before I read your e-mail, I once again decided to go search Adobe's site for solutions. I did infact find that you CANNOT index more than 50 bookmarks. So there I have it. I did however decide to take your advice and try splitting the doc in two. I tried with 150 pages, 100, 75, 50, going right down to 30 and still no go. I figure there is probably something wrong with my doc. Time permitting, I will have to troubleshoot it. In the meantime, I just finished creating my index manually :((. Thanks a bunch for you help :) Aline Damphousse adamphousse@kyberpass.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Rindsberg [SMTP:steve@rdpslides.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 3:41 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Index won't generate with PFDMaker > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > >I've been trying to generate a .pdf for the past few days and am still > >struggling. Using Acrobat 3.0 and have PDFMaker for Word installed. > I've > >been successful with many other docs, but not this specific one. > > > >When I click on the PDFMaker from Word, it goes through the whole process > >with indexing and creating the link to the TOC. But when it opens in > >Exchange, the index is not present, but the toc has its links. Am I > missing > >something? > > > > I haven't used Word's indexing with PDFMaker, just TOCs, so I'm not really > familiar with the process. Sounds to me as though you are, having done > this with other docs, so we can assume, I think, that it's not pilot > error. > > ISTR that at least some versions of PDFMaker have/had limitations as to > the > number of links that they'd handle. Perhaps you're going over this limit? > What happens if you save this file to a new name, delete half the > document, > regenerate the TOC and index, then save again, then have another go with > PDFMaker? Does it then work? If so, I'd suspect you've run into a > PDFMaker limitation. > > Folks? Can anybody shed more light on what the limits are, exactly? > > And if Jonathan Woods is out there, this might be a good opp for a comment > on the joys of Multi-Linker. > > > Steve Rindsberg > President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau > http://www.rdpslides.com > > Developers of ZAP! > Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus > http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Nov-1999 9:15:15-GMT,5615;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA16253 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 02:15:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA24676; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 02:56:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 02:52:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA24315; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 02:52:05 -0600 Message-ID: <14fb01bf2ceb$2685c1a0$e515fea9@tinypc> From: "Jonathan West" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Index won't generate with PFDMaker Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 08:38:52 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ MultiLinker can do just about everything that PDFMaker can, except that it is not limited in the number of bookmarks that can be included in a long document. Regards Jonathan West MultiLinker - Automated generation of hyperlinks in Word Conversion to PDF & HTML http://www.multilinker.com -----Original Message----- From: Aline Damphousse To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Date: 12 November 1999 02:57 Subject: RE: [PDF] Index won't generate with PFDMaker > > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >Steve, > >You were right!! > >It's funny that you came back to me with this information just now cause >about 5 min. before I read your e-mail, I once again decided to go search >Adobe's site for solutions. I did infact find that you CANNOT index more >than 50 bookmarks. So there I have it. > >I did however decide to take your advice and try splitting the doc in two. >I tried with 150 pages, 100, 75, 50, going right down to 30 and still no go. >I figure there is probably something wrong with my doc. Time permitting, I >will have to troubleshoot it. In the meantime, I just finished creating my >index manually :((. > >Thanks a bunch for you help :) > >Aline Damphousse >adamphousse@kyberpass.com > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Steve Rindsberg [SMTP:steve@rdpslides.com] >> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 3:41 PM >> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> Subject: Re: [PDF] Index won't generate with PFDMaker >> >> >> The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | >> http://www.pdfzone.com/ >> __________________________________________________________________ >> >> >I've been trying to generate a .pdf for the past few days and am still >> >struggling. Using Acrobat 3.0 and have PDFMaker for Word installed. >> I've >> >been successful with many other docs, but not this specific one. >> > >> >When I click on the PDFMaker from Word, it goes through the whole process >> >with indexing and creating the link to the TOC. But when it opens in >> >Exchange, the index is not present, but the toc has its links. Am I >> missing >> >something? >> > >> >> I haven't used Word's indexing with PDFMaker, just TOCs, so I'm not really >> familiar with the process. Sounds to me as though you are, having done >> this with other docs, so we can assume, I think, that it's not pilot >> error. >> >> ISTR that at least some versions of PDFMaker have/had limitations as to >> the >> number of links that they'd handle. Perhaps you're going over this limit? >> What happens if you save this file to a new name, delete half the >> document, >> regenerate the TOC and index, then save again, then have another go with >> PDFMaker? Does it then work? If so, I'd suspect you've run into a >> PDFMaker limitation. >> >> Folks? Can anybody shed more light on what the limits are, exactly? >> >> And if Jonathan Woods is out there, this might be a good opp for a comment >> on the joys of Multi-Linker. >> >> >> Steve Rindsberg >> President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau >> http://www.rdpslides.com >> >> Developers of ZAP! >> Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus >> http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm >> >> ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ >> PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - >> -- > >___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Nov-1999 10:21:31-GMT,4528;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA17370 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 03:21:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA30596; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 04:12:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 04:10:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA30280; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 04:10:01 -0600 Message-ID: <006001bf2cf6$0ab256e0$5474fea9@tinypc> From: "Jonathan West" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Index won't generate with PFDMaker Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:07:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Steve, -----Original Message----- From: Steve Rindsberg To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: 11 November 1999 20:49 Subject: Re: [PDF] Index won't generate with PFDMaker > >I haven't used Word's indexing with PDFMaker, just TOCs, so I'm not really >familiar with the process. Sounds to me as though you are, having done >this with other docs, so we can assume, I think, that it's not pilot error. > I think Aline was talking about the outline list, i.e. converting the headings to bookmarks, rather than hyperlinking the page numbers in the Word INDEX field. The reason that PDFMaker doesn't attempt to hyperlink the INDEX field is that, unlike the TOC, the page numbers are not hyperlinked with PAGEREF fields within the Word document itself. I'm looking at ways of inferring the link destinations so that the Index could be hyperlinked on conversion to PDF, but it's pretty hard, because of the variety of ways that the XE field can specify entries in the index, and the variety of ways in which the INDEX field itself can format the index. >ISTR that at least some versions of PDFMaker have/had limitations as to the >number of links that they'd handle. Perhaps you're going over this limit? I think that 50 bookmarks is the limit for PDFMaker 1.0. Beyond that and you have to delve into the code and do some hackery. I don't recommend that unless you are sure you know what you are doing. PDFMaker is some of the most massively convoluted VBA code it has ever been my misfortune to look at. There's really no justification for the functionality of PDFMaker to take over 5000 lines of code, excluding blanks and comments. >What happens if you save this file to a new name, delete half the document, >regenerate the TOC and index, then save again, then have another go with >PDFMaker? Does it then work? If so, I'd suspect you've run into a >PDFMaker limitation. > >Folks? Can anybody shed more light on what the limits are, exactly? >And if Jonathan Woods is out there, this might be a good opp for a comment >on the joys of Multi-Linker. > You rang, milord? You got the wrong Jonathan but happy to oblige. MultiLinker will eat a 220 page document for breakfast. It runs several times as fast as PDFMaker. It does not have a limitation on the number of bookmarks, named destinations or hyperlinks that can be included in a document. (I have run it on a 1400 page document containing about 2000 headings converted to bookmarks, and about 30,000 hyperlinks.) It can be set up to process a folder full of files in unattended batch mode. A free working demo version is available from the link in my signature. Regards Jonathan West MultiLinker - Automated generation of hyperlinks in Word Conversion to PDF & HTML http://www.multilinker.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Nov-1999 14:18:22-GMT,2142;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA21671 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 07:18:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA23487; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 08:05:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 07:52:05 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA21892; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 07:50:42 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991112085605.009d3340@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 08:56:05 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Index won't generate with PFDMaker In-Reply-To: <006001bf2cf6$0ab256e0$5474fea9@tinypc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >You got the wrong Jonathan It's the complicated last names. It must be. Wood. West. And all those "W"s. My apologies for the screwup. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Nov-1999 14:34:09-GMT,2023;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA22072 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 07:34:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA25271; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 08:18:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 08:11:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA24120; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 08:10:10 -0600 From: Jens.Mattfeld@temic-semi.de Message-Id: <4120627C8D64D211B67F00A0C949BA7A01F76CDA@heather.temic.de> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Writer - embedded fonts Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:05:09 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello, I use Interleaf on a PC and I have the problem that in documents in which I use the Thames Greek Font, a font that is provided by Interleaf, I can not print them to pdf. I can not put them on the embedded fonts list. Does anyone know how to change that. Jens Mattfeld IT-Operations TEMIC Semiconductor GmbH Theresienstr. 2 74072 Heilbronn Tel. +49 (0)7131 672613 Fax +49 (0)7131 672210 email: jens.mattfeld@temic-semi.de web: www.temic-semi.de ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Nov-1999 14:41:28-GMT,5474;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA22232 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 07:41:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA27593; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 08:30:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 08:24:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26022; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 08:22:40 -0600 Message-ID: <41DF35AC1276D311A47A0050BAAC9566F510@OUTPOST> From: Aline Damphousse To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Index won't generate with PFDMaker Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:21:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Wow Jonathan, The multilinker sounds great. I will certainly give it some attention. In the meantime, I had to create the index manually since my deadline was this morning. Thanks a bunch. Aline Damphousse adamphousse@kyberpass.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan West [SMTP:iis_technical@csi.com] > Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 5:07 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Index won't generate with PFDMaker > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Hi Steve, > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Rindsberg > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Date: 11 November 1999 20:49 > Subject: Re: [PDF] Index won't generate with PFDMaker > > > > > > >I haven't used Word's indexing with PDFMaker, just TOCs, so I'm not > really > >familiar with the process. Sounds to me as though you are, having done > >this with other docs, so we can assume, I think, that it's not pilot > error. > > > > I think Aline was talking about the outline list, i.e. converting the > headings to bookmarks, rather than hyperlinking the page numbers in the > Word > INDEX field. The reason that PDFMaker doesn't attempt to hyperlink the > INDEX > field is that, unlike the TOC, the page numbers are not hyperlinked with > PAGEREF fields within the Word document itself. I'm looking at ways of > inferring the link destinations so that the Index could be hyperlinked on > conversion to PDF, but it's pretty hard, because of the variety of ways > that > the XE field can specify entries in the index, and the variety of ways in > which the INDEX field itself can format the index. > > >ISTR that at least some versions of PDFMaker have/had limitations as to > the > >number of links that they'd handle. Perhaps you're going over this > limit? > > I think that 50 bookmarks is the limit for PDFMaker 1.0. Beyond that and > you > have to delve into the code and do some hackery. I don't recommend that > unless you are sure you know what you are doing. PDFMaker is some of the > most massively convoluted VBA code it has ever been my misfortune to look > at. There's really no justification for the functionality of PDFMaker to > take over 5000 lines of code, excluding blanks and comments. > > >What happens if you save this file to a new name, delete half the > document, > >regenerate the TOC and index, then save again, then have another go with > >PDFMaker? Does it then work? If so, I'd suspect you've run into a > >PDFMaker limitation. > > > >Folks? Can anybody shed more light on what the limits are, exactly? > > >And if Jonathan Woods is out there, this might be a good opp for a > comment > >on the joys of Multi-Linker. > > > > You rang, milord? > > You got the wrong Jonathan but happy to oblige. MultiLinker will eat a > 220 page document for breakfast. It runs several times as fast as > PDFMaker. > It does not have a limitation on the number of bookmarks, named > destinations > or hyperlinks that can be included in a document. (I have run it on a 1400 > page document containing about 2000 headings converted to bookmarks, and > about 30,000 hyperlinks.) It can be set up to process a folder full of > files > in unattended batch mode. A free working demo version is available from > the > link in my signature. > > Regards > Jonathan West > MultiLinker - Automated generation of hyperlinks in Word > Conversion to PDF & HTML > http://www.multilinker.com > > > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Nov-1999 15:46:32-GMT,2252;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA23877 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 08:46:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA05197; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:36:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:34:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04984; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:34:42 -0600 Message-Id: <01BF2D2C.74C39950.fsjogren@folksam.se> From: "Fredrik Sjogren" To: "PDF (E-postl)" Subject: [PDF] Sequrity s3ttings Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:39:14 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet-e-post/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA04980 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ is there a way to remove sequrity settings on PDF´s in batch mode? i have over 600 PDF´s with the standard sequrity setting and i want to change the settings to non. i have tried to remove it with Acrobat´s own batch feature with no luck. please help me \\\freek ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- fredrik sjögren, Graphics R/D voice: +46 8 772 66 36 Folksam fax: +46 8 643 45 91 106 60 Stockholm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Nov-1999 16:19:16-GMT,2315;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24775 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:19:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11290; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:11:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:09:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10815; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:09:38 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Writer - embedded fonts Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:09:25 -0000 Message-ID: <000c01bf2d28$4aa91540$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4120627C8D64D211B67F00A0C949BA7A01F76CDA@heather.temic.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I use Interleaf on a PC and I have the problem that in > documents in which I > use the Thames Greek Font, a font that is provided by > Interleaf, I can not > print them to pdf. I can not put them on the embedded fonts list. > > Does anyone know how to change that. The reason may be that this font is not licensed for embedding. The only way to get around this is to contact the font owner, to see if they will give, or sell, you a copy of the font with the license to embed it. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Nov-1999 16:49:35-GMT,2424;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25782 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:49:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA15480; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:41:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:37:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA14954; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:37:56 -0600 From: Ihor Prociuk Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:37:36 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Writer - embedded fonts In-Reply-To: <000c01bf2d28$4aa91540$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: <000c01bf2d28$4aa91540$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> <4120627C8D64D211B67F00A0C949BA7A01F76CDA@heather.temic.de> Message-ID: X-Mailer: Execmail for Win32 Version 5.0.1 Beta 1 Build (50) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:09:25 -0000 Aandi Inston wrote: > The reason may be that this font is not licensed for embedding. > The only way to get around this is to contact the font owner, > to see if they will give, or sell, you a copy of the font with > the license to embed it. > > Aandi There's an excellent article on font embedding on the PDFzone homepage (pdfzone.com). See "The Scoop on Font Embedding" by Rich Sprague. It gives some great insights about what goes on "under the hood" of Acrobat. Well worth reading. ----------------------- Sincerely yours, Ihor Prociuk Information Commons Unviersity of Toronto. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Nov-1999 17:35:10-GMT,3818;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26959 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:35:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA22873; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:25:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:22:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA22345; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:22:25 -0600 Message-ID: <382C4CBE.A0F5FBC7@comcom.com> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:22:06 -0600 From: Pat Leone-Thiel Organization: Commercial Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat Writer - embedded fonts References: <4120627C8D64D211B67F00A0C949BA7A01F76CDA@heather.temic.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Jens.Mattfeld@temic-semi.de wrote: > I use Interleaf on a PC and I have the problem that in documents in which I > use the Thames Greek Font, a font that is provided by Interleaf, I can not > print them to pdf. I can not put them on the embedded fonts list. > > Does anyone know how to change that. > There were some bugs with this font in Interleaf 6.4 (PC). They were fixed in patch. Patch: I702-001 Product: Interleaf 7 Version: 7.0.2 Platforms: Windows 95, Windows NT, sun4, sun4os5, hp700, rs6000 Date Released: October, 1999 Distribution: ftp, WWW DESCRIPTION: PRA I702-001: ------------ Bug #49743: Thames Greek/Math 8502 comes out as question mark. Here's a little more info about the Interleaf->font connection. Not sure it will help you in the long run... Font composition in the documents (on the Properties->Document->Composition) must be set to "ileaf" to form good fonts in PDF (although embedding may have been clarified with Aandi's comments). Interleaf fonts are TrueType fonts. These are the fonts used when creating PDF files. When you Publish to PDF, Interleaf uses the fonts in drive:\ileaf7.ileaf\outlines\tt directory. I use the Publish function when I create PDF in Ileaf7. It's a bit more reliable than it was in Ileaf 6.4. This feature has it's own predetermined path to PDF Printerleaf->Postscript->PDF. I've used it pointing to the Acrobat4 distiller (having set up the Distiller options to suit my PDF requirements first), but admittedly have not specifically tested embedding Thames Greek. Interleaf support claims all these fonts should be okay in all PDF. My question, does "OK" include "able to embed"? Not sure... Hope some of this can help. PS-I really appreciate the list. -- Patricia Leone-Thiel ----------------------------------------------------------- Special Applications Manager pleone@comcom.com Commercial Communications, Inc. ph(414)369-6000 1225 Walnut Ridge Drive fx(414)369-5647 Hartland, WI 53029 1-800-362-8832 ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Nov-1999 18:23:18-GMT,2423;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28251 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:23:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA30045; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 12:14:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 12:12:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA29787; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 12:12:25 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19991112180908.007464c0@marilyn.uochb.cas.cz> X-Sender: valter@marilyn.uochb.cas.cz X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 19:09:08 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Bohumir Valter Subject: Re: [PDF] Sequrity s3ttings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA29783 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Fredrik, I use plug-in Compose for this work and for other settings. It is really very good product but it is not cheap. Best regards, Bohumir Valter Document Data Services At 16:39 12.11.1999 +0100, you wrote: >is there a way to remove sequrity settings on PDF´s in batch mode? >i have over 600 PDF´s with the standard sequrity setting and i want to >change the settings to non. i have tried to remove it with Acrobat´s own >batch feature with no luck. >please help me > >\\\freek > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >----- > fredrik sjögren, Graphics R/D voice: +46 8 772 66 36 > Folksam fax: +46 8 643 45 91 > 106 60 Stockholm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Nov-1999 19:28:43-GMT,2685;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA29841 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 12:28:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06454; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 13:20:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 13:17:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06017; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 13:17:52 -0600 Message-ID: <382C6845.6401CF4B@wanadoo.fr> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 20:19:33 +0100 From: "Lausseur.aalto" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [fr] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Sequrity s3ttings References: <01BF2D2C.74C39950.fsjogren@folksam.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Fredrik, I had problems last month too when I tried to remove passwords from a lot of pdf files, but at last Acrobat batch feature worked fine. In the box « Select folder to optimize » : - first click Password button, press it and write the previous password - then don’t forget to click the Protection button without pressing it nor setting any parameter If you don’t click Protection button, Acrobat doesn’t understand the difference between : « I want to set null password » and « I don’t care about the password ». In another case, with files protected only against update, copy … , I still succeeded removing the second password. (I cannot guarantee the english names of buttons, as I use french version). Regards Michel Lausseur Aalto Consultant Fredrik Sjogren a écrit : > is there a way to remove sequrity settings on PDF´s in batch mode? > i have over 600 PDF´s with the standard sequrity setting and i want to > change the settings to non. i have tried to remove it with Acrobat´s own > batch feature with no luck. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Nov-1999 22:07:55-GMT,2268;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04041 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:07:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA29128; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:53:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:51:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA28842; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:51:18 -0600 X-Sender: castidata@mail.compusmart.ab.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 14:51:31 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kevin Chu Subject: [PDF] Need help In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19991112085605.009d3340@pop.iglou.com> References: <006001bf2cf6$0ab256e0$5474fea9@tinypc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <19991112215137Z33283-257+8138@mail.compusmart.ab.ca> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I want to put a PDF on the web with links to mov files, which will play within Acrobat. How do I do this!? This is what I have tried so far. I am at a total lost of what to do. Attempt 1: At first I created a PDF and linked the mov files which were on my HD. I then uploaded all these files to the server. When I click on the mov link it cannot find the movie file. Attempt 2: This time I created the PDF and linked the mov files to the movie files on the server. Same results.. It cannot find the movie file. Thanks. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Nov-1999 22:18:38-GMT,2459;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04433 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:18:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA31380; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:12:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:11:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA31078; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:10:58 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991112171744.00910af0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 17:17:44 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Need help In-Reply-To: <19991112215137Z33283-257+8138@mail.compusmart.ab.ca> References: <3.0.5.32.19991112085605.009d3340@pop.iglou.com> <006001bf2cf6$0ab256e0$5474fea9@tinypc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Hi, I want to put a PDF on the web with links to mov files, which will >play within Acrobat. How do I do this!? > Haven't tried putting MOV files on the web, but found that generally if you link from a PDF to external files *in the same folder as the PDF*, Acrobat creates a pathless link; IOW, you can move the PDF and the linked files somewhere else and it'll look wherever it currently is for the links. It's worth a try ... and I'd be interested to learn whether it works. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Nov-1999 22:30:21-GMT,2304;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04762 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:30:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA32566; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:21:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:20:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA32374; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:20:27 -0600 Message-ID: From: Jose Mera To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Need help Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 17:22:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Have you tried to use the URL path to the mov file? That is the link to your file should look like http://servername/movies/movie.mov, where movie.mov is a file in the movies directory on your servername web server. __________________ Hi, I want to put a PDF on the web with links to mov files, which will play within Acrobat. How do I do this!? This is what I have tried so far. I am at a total lost of what to do. Attempt 1: At first I created a PDF and linked the mov files which were on my HD. I then uploaded all these files to the server. When I click on the mov link it cannot find the movie file. Attempt 2: This time I created the PDF and linked the mov files to the movie files on the server. Same results.. It cannot find the movie file. Thanks. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Nov-1999 22:57:11-GMT,1874;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05434 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:57:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA03133; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:42:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:41:05 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA02870; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:41:04 -0600 Message-ID: <19991112224103.285.rocketmail@web1703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 14:41:03 -0800 (PST) From: Craig Materick Subject: [PDF] using an embed tag with pdf files To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Just wondering if anybody out there knows where I can find documentation on any settings available when using an tag to display a pdf file in HTML Thanks ===== Craig Materick Technology Services Group __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Nov-1999 23:31:32-GMT,2099;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06326 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:31:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA08080; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 17:21:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 17:19:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA07779; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 17:19:19 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] using an embed tag with pdf files Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 23:19:05 -0000 Message-ID: <000f01bf2d64$515b9840$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <19991112224103.285.rocketmail@web1703.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Just wondering if anybody out there knows where I can > find documentation on any settings available when > using an tag to display a pdf file in HTML The Acrobat help file describes this tag, and the important differences between IE and Netscape in how it works. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Nov-1999 23:44:07-GMT,2359;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06624 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:44:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA09355; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 17:32:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 17:31:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA09118; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 17:31:18 -0600 X-Sender: castidata@mail.compusmart.ab.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:31:45 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kevin Chu Subject: RE: [PDF] Need help In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <19991112233137Z34426-257+8353@mail.compusmart.ab.ca> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I tried this before. Doesnt this just open up the movie file in anther window and not within the pdf? I would like to have the movie file open within the pdf like it does when viewing a movie from a pdf on a cd-rom or hd. > > >Have you tried to use the URL path to the mov file? That is the link to >your file should look like http://servername/movies/movie.mov, where >movie.mov is a file in the movies directory on your servername web >server. > >__________________ > >Hi, I want to put a PDF on the web with links to mov files, which will >play within Acrobat. How do I do this!? > >This is what I have tried so far. I am at a total lost of what to do. > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Nov-1999 0:51:09-GMT,2262;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA08267 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 17:51:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA09486; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 17:34:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 17:32:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA09371; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 17:32:50 -0600 X-Sender: castidata@mail.compusmart.ab.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:33:15 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kevin Chu Subject: Re: [PDF] Need help In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19991112171744.00910af0@pop.iglou.com> References: <19991112215137Z33283-257+8138@mail.compusmart.ab.ca> <3.0.5.32.19991112085605.009d3340@pop.iglou.com> <006001bf2cf6$0ab256e0$5474fea9@tinypc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <19991112233304Z30223-254+8514@mail.compusmart.ab.ca> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is what I have done and it does not work. > >Haven't tried putting MOV files on the web, but found that generally if you >link from a PDF to external files *in the same folder as the PDF*, Acrobat >creates a pathless link; IOW, you can move the PDF and the linked files >somewhere else and it'll look wherever it currently is for the links. > >It's worth a try ... and I'd be interested to learn whether it works. > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Nov-1999 1:44:20-GMT,2206;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA09483 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 18:44:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA24378; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 19:30:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 19:28:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA24132; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 19:28:16 -0600 Message-ID: <353C8BE31FD8D11181E100805FA7206501B57D08@orange7.sybrondental.com> From: "Johnson, Darrell" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Converting an Acrobat 4 File Back to Acrobat 3 Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 17:25:21 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We are using Adobe Document Server, and it needs Acrobat 3 files. I have an Acrobat 4 file with a complex set of bookmarks and links that needs to be "downgraded" to a Acrobat 3 file. Is there an easy way to do it? Of course, Adobe has no "Save As Acrobat 3" in Acrobat 4. I don't want to create the file again with the distiller as I will have to create many elements such as links, bookmarks, ect. Thanks in Advance Darrell Johnson Group Leader, Multimedia Design Sybron Dental Specialties johnsond@sybrondental.com http://www.sybrondental.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Nov-1999 10:22:08-GMT,2065;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA10987 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 03:22:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA30341; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 03:58:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 03:52:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA29863; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 03:52:27 -0600 Message-ID: <9BBE93C829D5D11197D70000C044670003036318@sdeaug02.germany.ncr.com> From: "Betz, Sebastian" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] color conversion Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:52:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id DAA29859 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi everbody ! who can help me out on that ? I have a pdf file with a lot of pics and now I want to convert these pics to black&white color sheme(I hope this is the right English expression) but i didn´t find any option in exchange or in the writer. The orignal file is a word file. thanxs a lot , Sebastian Betz ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Nov-1999 10:25:18-GMT,1761;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA11051 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 03:25:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA32414; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 04:18:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 04:17:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA32320; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 04:17:05 -0600 Message-Id: <01BF2F52.E057D6E0.fsjogren@folksam.se> From: "Fredrik Sjogren" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: SV: [PDF] Sequrity settings Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:19:17 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet-e-post/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thank you all, i found a plug-in that can help us, PDF Protector. we will purchase it if it does what it says. \\\freek ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Nov-1999 12:31:48-GMT,5071;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA13260 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 05:31:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA09108; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 06:20:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 06:16:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA08797; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 06:16:31 -0600 Message-Id: <199911151222.HAA11405@smtp2.erols.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 07:11:00 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] color conversion From: "Sheila Donnelly" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3025494660_255159_MIME_Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3025494660_255159_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable The plug in Quite A box of tricks should be able to take care of that. Go t= o www.quite.com/. Sheila Donnelly Precise Corporate Printing, Inc. 75 Front Street, Brooklyn, NY 11201 718-797-0900 or 800-392-2496 (Outside NYC) x134 718-797-9637 Fax sheila.donnelly@precisecorp.com ---------- From: "Betz, Sebastian" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] color conversion Date: Mon, Nov 15, 1999, 4:52 AM The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi everbody ! who can help me out on that ? I have a pdf file with a lot of pics and now I want to convert these pics to black&white color sheme(I hope this is the right English expression= ) but i didn=B4t find any option in exchange or in the writer. The orignal file is a word file. thanxs a lot , Sebastian Betz ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= - --MS_Mac_OE_3025494660_255159_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [PDF] color conversion The plug in Quite A box of tricks should be able to take care of that. Go t= o www.quite.com/.

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From: "Betz, Sebastian" <SB400010@exchange.germany.ncr.com>=
To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" <pdf@lists.pdfzone.com>
Subject: [PDF] color conversion
Date: Mon, Nov 15, 1999, 4:52 AM



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Hi everbody !
who can help me out on that ?
I have a pdf file with a lot of  pics and now I want to convert these<= BR> pics to black&white color sheme(I hope this is the right English expres= sion)
but
i didn=B4t find any option in exchange or in the writer.
The orignal file is a word file.

thanxs a lot ,

Sebastian Betz

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--MS_Mac_OE_3025494660_255159_MIME_Part-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Nov-1999 14:27:35-GMT,2221;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA15493 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 07:27:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA18712; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:06:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:01:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA18135; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:01:07 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991115090800.009d7830@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:08:00 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] color conversion In-Reply-To: <9BBE93C829D5D11197D70000C044670003036318@sdeaug02.germany. ncr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ If the rest of the document (text and so forth) is all b/w already and only the pictures are in color, try printing to a b/w PS printer driver and distilling the results. >I have a pdf file with a lot of pics and now I want to convert these >pics to black&white color sheme(I hope this is the right English expression) >but Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Nov-1999 14:27:58-GMT,3058;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA15511 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 07:27:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA20297; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:19:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:17:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA20074; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:17:24 -0600 X-Sender: art1@mail.hpe.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:15:53 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Re: Converting Freehand 8 files to PDF. To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Art Department Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA20069 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ David, sorry to be so slow getting back to you. I use FreeHand all the time and have no trouble making a PDF in Acrobat 3 (or 4) if I first convert text to paths. I then export the file as an EPS (but don't save changes to your original!!!!) and run the EPS through Distiller, checking it in Acrobat. Unless the recipient needs to make changes to the PDF, I'd not worry about embedding fonts. Just convert all the text to paths. You'll have to unlink text to do this. I wouldn't use PDF Writer. From my research, it's not a good thing. You said you received a message that you couldn't view the PDF because the file could not be found. I think this is a FreeHand 8 problem. I often try to save a document only to get the message that it can't be saved because the file can't be found. However, when I try to re-save it with the same name, it often overwrited the first version, the one it said it couldn't find!!! I had this problem in FreeHand 7 as well but never in another program, so it must be a FreeHand problem. Hope this helps. --------------------------------------------------- Carol Brooks, Coordinator of Electronic Advertising High Point Enterprise, High Point, N.C. (336) 888-3562 Direct HPE e-mail to: art1@hpe.com --------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Nov-1999 14:54:27-GMT,2136;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA16087 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 07:54:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA22803; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:40:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:38:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22497; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:38:00 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: kfoss@mail.roundtable.com.au Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19991115090800.009d7830@pop.iglou.com> References: <3.0.5.32.19991115090800.009d7830@pop.iglou.com> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:42:45 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Adobe Acrobat 4.05 and Acrobat Reader 4.05 are now available (officially released): http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/main.html rgds ~ Kurt ________________ Planet PDF: A World of PDF Resources _______________ Kurt Foss | Editor | http://www.planetpdf.com/ | mailto:kfoss@planetpdf.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ => READ "In Orbit" http://www.planetpdf.com/mainpage.asp?webpageid=468 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Nov-1999 15:41:48-GMT,2379;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17360 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:41:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA28288; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:28:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:25:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA28091; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:25:41 -0600 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.2.19991115072424.00b94970@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 07:24:51 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] color conversion In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19991115090800.009d7830@pop.iglou.com> References: <9BBE93C829D5D11197D70000C044670003036318@sdeaug02.germany. ncr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 11/15/99 06:08 AM , you wrote: >If the rest of the document (text and so forth) is all b/w already and only >the pictures are in color, try printing to a b/w PS printer driver and >distilling the results. > > >I have a pdf file with a lot of pics and now I want to convert these > >pics to black&white color sheme(I hope this is the right English expression) > >but > >Steve Rindsberg The solution proposed above will not work if the images are in EPS format! - Dov ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Nov-1999 15:48:06-GMT,2175;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17508 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:48:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29631; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:39:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:37:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29367; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:37:10 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991115104303.009bfcd0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:43:03 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] color conversion In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.19991115072424.00b94970@mail-303> References: <3.0.5.32.19991115090800.009d7830@pop.iglou.com> <9BBE93C829D5D11197D70000C044670003036318@sdeaug02.germany. ncr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >The solution proposed above will not work if the images are in EPS format! Yes, thanks. The EPS would be passed as-is directly to Distiller regardless of the PS driver chosen. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Nov-1999 15:52:44-GMT,2772;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17634 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:52:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA30511; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:45:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:42:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA30132; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:42:41 -0600 Message-Id: <199911151040.KAA05201@smaug.eos.com.pe> Subject: Re: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:39:19 -0500 x-sender: pdf@mail.eos.com.pe x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Roberto Michelena To: , "PDF PP list" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Are these guys crazy????? It's the first time ever I see a company trying to charge for a bug fix!!!!!! http://www.adobe.com/support/salesdocs/f612.htm the document itself begins: The Adobe Acrobat 4.0.5 Update fixes a small number of problems in Acrobat 4.0 that were discovered after its release. If you own Adobe Acrobat 4.0 for Mac OS or Windows, you're eligible to purchase the Acrobat 4.05 Update. You'll need to provide a valid Acrobat 4.0 serial number or proof of purchase for an Acrobat 4.0 upgrade when you place your order. crazy!!!! they specifically say it's a bug fix, and then go on explaining how to buy it for $14.95+shipping!!!! Even more, the mac plugins to make it feature-compatible with the Windows version, cost another 10 bucks!!! reading on, there seems to be one new feature: WebBuy, to purchase encrypted e-books. Well, I'm not interested in it. In fact, that feature should be chargeable to the one selling the e-books. come on, Adobe, give me a free bug fix!!!! remove the WebBuy from it if you want to... outraged, -- Roberto Michelena EOS S.A. Lima, Peru ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Nov-1999 15:53:50-GMT,2189;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17654 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:53:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA30383; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:44:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:41:47 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29914; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:41:47 -0600 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <00e201bf2f7c$e7fc8740$8a64ba8c@ppp> References: <3.0.5.32.19991115090800.009d7830@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:39:11 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available Cc: "Ron Miller" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Ron, from what I heard, yes. Several issues concerning printing have apparently been fixed. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Building Bridges for Information ] ______________________ >Any idea what fixes or updates Adobe has done that makes it worthwhile to >upgrade? > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Nov-1999 15:54:49-GMT,2623;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17667 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:54:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA30648; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:46:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:43:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA30284; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:43:41 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: sjveloff@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <00e201bf2f7c$e7fc8740$8a64ba8c@ppp> References: <3.0.5.32.19991115090800.009d7830@pop.iglou.com> <00e201bf2f7c$e7fc8740$8a64ba8c@ppp> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:43:40 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Veloff Subject: Re: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Any idea what fixes or updates Adobe has done that makes it worthwhile to >upgrade? > >Thanks. >Ron Miller Actually, from looking at the information on Adobe's site, it will cost $$ for everyone as it sounds like they only plan on offering it via CD and snail mail. The URL at Adobe and a brief listing of the improvements are listed below... http://www.adobe.com/support/salesdocs/f612.htm - Integration with Microsoft Office 2000 (Windows only) - Proper JPEG Compression in PDF Files Created by Distiller - Less Restrictive TrueType Font Embedding This one has a bad link to Rich Sprague's article on PDFzone.com I have made them aware of it. - Improved Web Browser Integration - Improved Printing - PDFMaker Support for all Windows NT User Privileges (Windows only) - Distiller Crashes and Color Management Fixed - Printer Driver Updates ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Nov-1999 15:57:17-GMT,2015;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17748 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:57:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA27134; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:19:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:15:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA26764; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:15:35 -0600 Message-ID: <00e201bf2f7c$e7fc8740$8a64ba8c@ppp> From: "Ron Miller" To: References: <3.0.5.32.19991115090800.009d7830@pop.iglou.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:19:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Any idea what fixes or updates Adobe has done that makes it worthwhile to upgrade? Thanks. Ron Miller Freelance Technical Writing Since 1988 email: rsmiller@crocker.com web: www.techdochelp.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Nov-1999 16:14:01-GMT,2098;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18164 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:14:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00166; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:04:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:02:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA32631; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:02:08 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991115160000.007fe440@edinpophub> X-Sender: johnd@edinpophub X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:00:00 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: John Donaldson Subject: Re: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.5.32.19991115090800.009d7830@pop.iglou.com> <3.0.5.32.19991115090800.009d7830@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Adobe Acrobat 4.05 and Acrobat Reader 4.05 are now available (officially released): Nice one. You get to pay $14.95 for a bug-fix update. "The Adobe Acrobat 4.0.5 Update fixes a small number of problems in Acrobat 4.0 that were discovered after its release." (from the Adobe website) John ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Nov-1999 16:14:19-GMT,2420;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18181 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:14:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00163; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:04:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:01:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA32487; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:01:14 -0600 Message-ID: <013101bf2f83$4ca27640$8a64ba8c@ppp> From: "Ron Miller" To: References: <3.0.5.32.19991115090800.009d7830@pop.iglou.com> <00e201bf2f7c$e7fc8740$8a64ba8c@ppp> Subject: Re: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:04:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thanks to all who have responded about the upgrade. Charging without at least giving the option of downloading is a bit shocking unless it's so huge that downloading is not an option. Still $14.95 is a bit steep for a CD, especially when it doesn't include shipping and handling. Anyone using Office 2000, however, is pretty much forced to bite the bullet and get it. Not happy, but probably upgrading anyway. Ron ___ Ron Miller Freelance Technical Writing Since 1988 email: rsmiller@crocker.com web: www.techdochelp.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Nov-1999 16:16:52-GMT,7324;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18300 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:16:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00680; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:07:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:04:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00175; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:04:42 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991115100421.0080bc20@omnipress.com> X-Sender: uschan@omnipress.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:04:21 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Christopher Uschan Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 4.05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ to save the list much foreseeable replys about the fixes, here is a support doc. Enjoy! http://www.adobe.com/support/salesdocs/f612.htm Adobe Acrobat 4.0.5 Update ------------------------------ What's Covered Before Purchasing the Update Acrobat 4.05 Features and Revisions How to Order the Update The Adobe Acrobat 4.0.5 Update fixes a small number of problems in Acrobat 4.0 that were discovered after its release. If you own Adobe Acrobat 4.0 for Mac OS or Windows, you're eligible to purchase the Acrobat 4.05 Update. You'll need to provide a valid Acrobat 4.0 serial number or proof of purchase for an Acrobat 4.0 upgrade when you place your order. Before Purchasing the Update Before purchasing the 4.05 update, verify the version number of your copy of Acrobat. Although the product box and startup screen list version 4.0, you may own version 4.05. The correct version number of your copy of Acrobat is located only in the upper left corner of the startup screen and About dialog box. To locate the version number, choose About Adobe Acrobat from the Apple menu (Macintosh) or choose Help > About Adobe Acrobat (Windows). Acrobat 4.0.5 Features and Revisions - Acrobat with Web Buy Web Buy is software that enables you to download encrypted content from the Web, such as eBooks and documents in PDF, and unlock it. This Adobe technology is a fully integrated component of Adobe Acrobat and Acrobat Reader 4.05. You can download Acrobat Reader for free at www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep.html. (Acrobat Reader 4.05 on CD-ROM will be released within 2 to 3 months.) Find out more about Web Buy at www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/webbuy/main.html. - Integration with Microsoft Office 2000 (Windows only) Integration problems that caused PDFMaker 4.0 (the macro that automates PDF creation within Office applications) to hang have been corrected. Acrobat 4.05 is properly integrated with Office 2000, and enables you to automate the conversion of native Word, Excel, and PowerPoint documents to PDF files. - Proper JPEG Compression in PDF Files Created by Distiller In Acrobat 4.0, Distiller's JPEG compression results are the same for High, Medium, and Low. Acrobat 4.05 corrects this problem so that in most cases the JPEG compression of images in PDF files is better than that achieved in Acrobat 3.0. - Less Restrictive TrueType Font Embedding To stay within the industry specification for TrueType fonts, Acrobat Distiller 4.05 no longer interprets out of specification flags as meaning non-embeddable. Acrobat Distiller 4.05 continues to read font embedding flags and honors properly specified restrictions on font embedding. For more information on the True Type font industry specification, visit www.pdfzone.com/rich/fsTypedefinitions.html - Improved Web Browser Integration Problems that prevented PDF files from being displayed properly in Netscape Navigator and Internet Explorer browser windows have been corrected. In addition, Acrobat no longer crashes when you view PDF files embedded in HTML files. - Improved Printing Several problems with PostScript and PCL (i.e. non-PostScript) printing in which the printout was incorrect, no output was produced, or Acrobat crashed have been corrected. - PDFMaker Support for all Windows NT User Privileges (Windows only) PDFMaker now functions properly regardless of the user's Windows NT privileges. You no longer need to be logged in with Administrator privileges. - Distiller Crashes and Color Management Fixed Several problems that caused Distiller to crash have been corrected, as were problems that caused Distiller to embed incorrect ICC color profiles in PDF files. - Printer Driver Updates The newest Adobe PostScript printer drivers (Adobe PS 8.6 for Macintosh, Adobe PS 5.1.1 for Windows NT, and Adobe PS 4.3.1 for Windows 95/98) are integrated. How to Order the Update The Acrobat 4.05 Update is available only from Adobe directly. To order by phone, call Customer Services at 800-272-3623. For information on how to order from Adobe by fax or mail, visit www.adobe.com/support/salesdocs/230e.htm. If you reside outside of the United States and Canada, contact your local Adobe support provider to order the update. For a complete list of Adobe support providers visit adobe.com/support/intlsupport.html. You may reference the following when ordering your update. (Prices are in U.S. dollars.) Acrobat 4.05 for Mac OS and Windows is available only on CD-ROM. Item Description Price Adobe Part Number Acrobat 4.05 update for Windows $14.95 22001401 Acrobat 4.05 update for Mac OS $14.95 12001391 Acrobat 4.05 update for Mac OS and Acrobat 4.x plug-ins* $24.95 12001390 * Acrobat 4.x plug-ins provide functionality previously available only with Acrobat 4.0 for Windows. These plug-ins for Acrobat 4.x Mac OS are also available for download free of charge at www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/acr4diff.html. Shipping $5.00 per product shipped to locations in the U.S. $7.50 per product shipped to locations in Canada Post-Announce Pricing If you purchased a previous version of Acrobat between October 17, 1999 and December 17, 1999, you're eligible for an Acrobat 4.05 update for the price of shipping only. However, copies of Acrobat that were bundled with Adobe FrameMaker aren't eligible for post-announce pricing. This offer is available only through Adobe, and applies to purchases made from Adobe or Adobe Authorized Resellers. You must provide a dated proof of purchase when you place your order. ------- Chris Uschan ------------ Digital Resources Manager - OMNIPRESS phone: 608-246-2600 fax: 608-246-4237 Learn more about us at http://www.omnipress.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Nov-1999 16:45:00-GMT,2333;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19138 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:44:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04057; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:32:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:29:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA03552; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:29:53 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: sjveloff@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19991115160000.007fe440@edinpophub> References: <3.0.5.32.19991115090800.009d7830@pop.iglou.com> <3.0.5.32.19991115090800.009d7830@pop.iglou.com> <3.0.6.32.19991115160000.007fe440@edinpophub> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:29:51 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Veloff Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Reader 4.05 now available - NOT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ After doing much digging on Adobe's Web and FTP sites (downloading more than once), the files they claim to be as 4.05 are still saying they are version 4.0 with creation/modification dates of March 19, 1999. These are identical to version 4.0. Looks like Adobe updated their Web site before actually putting up the new 4.0.5 version files on their FTP site. At least that is what appears to have happened. ----------------------------- Steve Veloff sjveloff@pdfzone.com http://www.pdfzone.com/ PDFzone.com - Web Development ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Nov-1999 16:45:17-GMT,3307;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19147 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:45:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03408; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:28:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:25:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA03170; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:25:47 -0600 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:25:43 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available From: Rich Sprague To: , CC: Stephen Keese Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19991115160000.007fe440@edinpophub> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > From: John Donaldson >> Adobe Acrobat 4.05 and Acrobat Reader 4.05 are now available (officially >> released): > > Nice one. You get to pay $14.95 for a bug-fix update. > > "The Adobe Acrobat 4.0.5 Update fixes a small number of problems in Acrobat > 4.0 that were discovered after its release." (from the Adobe website) Isn't that just dandy? Here are some of the features we're getting by paying for a new disk: * Distiller chnages the way it looks at fsTypes. The problems caused by Macromedia's Fontographer with fsType 0001 will no longer be restricted by Distiller. One battle won, at least. * Black overprints (should be fixed). * Compressions problems should be fixed. Acrobat 4.05 will now make smaller files (better than 3.x, I believe). * Printing problems should be fixed. * Macintosh features are now on parity with Windows (extra cost for these features). * Random crashing problems should be fixed. I can't believe we're being charged for these things. Rich ================================================================ Rich Sprague, Contributing Editor Planet PDF rsprague@planetpdf.com http://www.planetpdf.com ================================================================ Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress PDF/Acrobat Consulting Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-5900 http://www.infomania.com ================================================================ ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Nov-1999 17:03:08-GMT,2404;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19630 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:03:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06824; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:55:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:52:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06493; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:52:09 -0600 Message-ID: <38303A2B.C2FC28F3@monkscopyshop.com> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:52:05 -0500 From: larry kendall Organization: monkscopyshop.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: PDF PP list Subject: Re: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available References: <199911151040.KAA05201@smaug.eos.com.pe> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I must agree with RM's complaint. This is not the type of treatment I have come to expect from Adobe. From the Big M possibly? To pay for a fix that makes the product do what it was advertised to do from the start is ridiculous. As a long time user and holder of 8 current Adobe licenses I feel that I am being stabbed in the back, not by the $20 BUT BY THE ATTITUDE OF THE COMPANY LARRYK Roberto Michelena wrote: > Are these guys crazy????? > > It's the first time ever I see a company trying to charge for a bug > fix!!!!!! > > http://www.adobe.com/support/salesdocs/f612.htm > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Nov-1999 17:11:32-GMT,4064;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19852 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:11:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA07921; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:03:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:01:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07566; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:01:08 -0600 Message-ID: <004e01bf2f8b$38131ec0$466564c8@mabrahamson> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: Subject: Re: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:02:37 -0500 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I can't believe we're being charged for these things. > > Rich It seems for all our debate over whether Adobe or Microsoft is responsible for the "glitches" with Acrobat and Word, Adobe decided to follow the Microsoft lead and start charging customers for their mistakes. Only this update doesn't add new features like Win 98 SE did for its counterpart. It supposedly exists only to fix problems with the previously released version. Any "victory" won for us users in terms of functionality is tempered, and even negated by the fact that we are being asked to foot the bill for Adobe's mistakes. So much for customer loyalty and consumerism. It would be reasonable to ask for the cost of shipping alone, or even for the minimal cost of producing the CD (not more than $5), but there is no definable reason to charge $15 for a bug fix plus shipping. This is precisely why the computer industry gets a hard knock from consumers. We put out products with tremendous hype that don't deliver on their promised features. Then we turn around and charge consumers to fix what shouldn't have been wrong in the first place. People understand that products aren't always released in perfect working condition. My Mitsubishi has a recall out on it for a minor fix to its seat belt housing... but they're not asking me to pay for the repairs! All I have to do is take the time to get the car to a dealer and spend whatever gas mileage necessary to do so. Hardly unreasonable. Imagine if Mitsubishi decided to charge me the equivalent of what Adobe is asking to fix their bugs. In theory, Adobe is asking us to pay $20 for a fix on a $250 product (going by the early list price). That is 8% of the total cost of the product as released. Mitsubishi would love this deal! They could charge me $1200 for a repair to their defective car! And that is 8% of what I paid for it used... never what it would have cost if I bought it new! Granted, Mitsubishi makes a lot more profit on each of their products than does Adobe, but the question remains... why charge your loyal customers for a fix on a product that you knowingly released as defective? Good product... bad policy. < endsoapboxsession > :) Mike Abrahamson ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Nov-1999 17:11:38-GMT,3185;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19857 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:11:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA07812; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:02:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:00:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07385; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:00:07 -0600 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991115115448.00c365e0@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: rschafer/pop3.frontiernet.net@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:59:23 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Richard Schafer Subject: Re: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.6.32.19991115160000.007fe440@edinpophub> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thanx for the info Rich. Sound like they're trying to get it to work like ver 3 ... which I had returned to ... and am still happily using without any problems ;-) IMHO ... Quark is not the only organization with "culture problems." R. ============At 11/15/99 11:25 AM , you wrote:================= >Here are some of the features we're getting by paying for a new disk: > >* Distiller chnages the way it looks at fsTypes. The problems caused by >Macromedia's Fontographer with fsType 0001 will no longer be restricted by >Distiller. One battle won, at least. > >* Black overprints (should be fixed). > >* Compressions problems should be fixed. Acrobat 4.05 will now make smaller >files (better than 3.x, I believe). > >* Printing problems should be fixed. > >* Macintosh features are now on parity with Windows (extra cost for these >features). > >* Random crashing problems should be fixed. > >I can't believe we're being charged for these things. > >Rich |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Richard K. Schafer 306 Hollywood Avenue Rochester, NY 14618-2234 (USA) Phone: (716)442-4465 FAX: (716)461-5346 Internet: rschafer@frontiernet.net |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Nov-1999 17:25:29-GMT,2648;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20513 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:25:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09458; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:17:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:14:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09202; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:14:14 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: axxess@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <013101bf2f83$4ca27640$8a64ba8c@ppp> References: <3.0.5.32.19991115090800.009d7830@pop.iglou.com> <00e201bf2f7c$e7fc8740$8a64ba8c@ppp> <013101bf2f83$4ca27640$8a64ba8c@ppp> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 09:14:48 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: axel schonfeld Subject: Re: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Ron Miller and others expressed disappointment and worse: ________________ > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Not happy, but probably upgrading anyway. > > As a long time user and holder of 8 current Adobe licenses I feel that I am > being stabbed in the back, not by the $20 BUT BY THE ATTITUDE OF THE COMPANY > I can't believe we're being charged for these things. I only hope that we will all expend the energy necessary to write to Adobe with these comments. It is truly astounding to be charged for what is patently and obviously a necessary fix. San Jose Corporate Headquarters Adobe Systems Incorporated 345 Park Avenue San Jose, California 95110-2704 USA Best. a. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Nov-1999 17:34:05-GMT,2787;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20867 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:34:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10223; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:22:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:20:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09802; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:19:58 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:22:30 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available Cc: Stephen Keese Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA09798 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 8:25 AM -0800 11/15/99, Rich Sprague wrote: >* Macintosh features are now on parity with Windows (extra cost for these >features). > Actually, there are a still a number of features available on the Windows side that STILL aren't on the Mac, even with the new plug-ins. These include, but may not be limited to... * Integration with MS Office (aka PDFMaker) * Table selection/extraction tool * Numerous IAC/automation features Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Nov-1999 17:44:41-GMT,3052;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21169 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:44:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA11769; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:35:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:32:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA11495; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:32:43 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991115113130.0080b570@omnipress.com> X-Sender: uschan@omnipress.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:31:30 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Christopher Uschan Subject: Re: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available In-Reply-To: References: <013101bf2f83$4ca27640$8a64ba8c@ppp> <3.0.5.32.19991115090800.009d7830@pop.iglou.com> <00e201bf2f7c$e7fc8740$8a64ba8c@ppp> <013101bf2f83$4ca27640$8a64ba8c@ppp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I can only agree with this email. We went through this bombarding of this PDF-L when Adobe release Capture 2.0 with the infamous "dongle." Adobe has thrown a knuckel ball and everyone is complaining about the pitch. Todays PDF-L session is one of the best moaning and groaning sessions I have seen in a while. If we are all professionals, lets contact Adobe and do something about it instead of griping to all of your colligues--- hoping that Adobe is listening to this list. Thanks to Mr. Schonfeld for providing us an Adobe address. If there are direct email address, lets get them too. >====== >I only hope that we will all expend the energy necessary to write to Adobe >with these comments. It is truly astounding to be charged for what is >patently and obviously a necessary fix. > >San Jose Corporate Headquarters >Adobe Systems Incorporated >345 Park Avenue >San Jose, California 95110-2704 >USA > >Best. >========= Agree? Chris Uschan ------------ Digital Resources Manager - OMNIPRESS phone: 608-246-2600 fax: 608-246-4237 Learn more about us at http://www.omnipress.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Nov-1999 17:44:43-GMT,2931;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21174 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:44:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA11474; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:32:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:29:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10975; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:29:08 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:32:30 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA10968 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 12:22 PM -0500 11/15/99, Leonard Rosenthol wrote: > Actually, there are a still a number of features available on >the Windows side that STILL aren't on the Mac, even with the new >plug-ins. These include, but may not be limited to... > >* Integration with MS Office (aka PDFMaker) >* Table selection/extraction tool >* Numerous IAC/automation features > I know replying to my own message is a bad breach of netiquite, but I'll forgo it this once to add my FAVORITE feature of Acrobat on Windows that isn't on the Mac side (and I can't believe I forgot) ... Open Any LDR ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Nov-1999 18:43:52-GMT,2161;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA23026 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:43:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA17720; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:28:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:25:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA17455; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:25:08 -0600 Message-ID: <38304F2F.B774E84E@vdiprinting.com> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:21:38 -0600 From: "Matthew L. Kelly" Organization: VisualDimensions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available References: <199911151040.KAA05201@smaug.eos.com.pe> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Roberto Michelena wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Are these guys crazy????? > > It's the first time ever I see a company trying to charge for a bug > fix!!!!!! > Any doubters about the effects of a monopoly? What is the number of the Justice Department? ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Nov-1999 19:08:20-GMT,2723;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23873 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:08:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20349; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:51:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:48:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA19987; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:48:13 -0600 Message-ID: <00E1C8ECF9BDD211A5390090271B28FC0DEA3B@exchange.trapeze.net> From: "Bergerman, Matthew" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 13:48:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At least Microsoft does not charge for bug fixes! -----Original Message----- From: Matthew L. Kelly [mailto:prepress@vdiprinting.com] Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 1:22 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Roberto Michelena wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Are these guys crazy????? > > It's the first time ever I see a company trying to charge for a bug > fix!!!!!! > Any doubters about the effects of a monopoly? What is the number of the Justice Department? ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Nov-1999 21:36:15-GMT,2471;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA28230 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 14:36:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA05439; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:26:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:23:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA05141; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:23:11 -0600 Message-ID: <36C9E40B.7FBB0E84@tallent.com> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:33:00 -0600 From: David X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Newbie: Using form information within other programs References: <3.0.5.32.19991115100421.0080bc20@omnipress.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I would like to place/pull information from a pdf file's form(s). I've heard of an idea relating specifically to placing text information into FDF files instead of utilizing a web server. How would one go about calling specific form fields within a FDF file using a program language like Lingo? I have exhausted my ideas about how I can have Lingo take text info from a Director based text field and place it in a FDF text field. I'm attempting to insert text without the end user seeing the FDF/PDF file. The only time they would see it is when the file is printed out with their inserted text. Anyone have some ideas? Director does not recognize specific HTML tags (
, , ) Nor can Director understand javascript completely (It can only write out Java applets.). Dave ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Nov-1999 0:41:40-GMT,2476;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA03098 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:41:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA23938; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:27:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:25:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA23796; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:25:26 -0600 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:56:36 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Folks: OK! Enough rants on Adobe! I'm SURE they got the message. What a waste of bandwidth! If I'm not much mistaken, that goose (Adobe) is laying the golden eggs for this listserv readership - lest we forget! If $14 breaks the bank, you have bigger problems than being charged for a bug fix anyhow. While we're on the subject of rants: would the List Administrator (who is.... who?) please take a look at the listserv footer -- Halloween was a couple of weeks ago, I think.... >___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ ;) Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. www.document-solutions.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Nov-1999 0:43:56-GMT,2907;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA03150 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:43:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA25189; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:37:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:36:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA25065; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:36:10 -0600 Message-ID: <3830A758.2065C1E5@dconstructs.com> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:38:02 -0500 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available References: <3.0.5.32.19991115090800.009d7830@pop.iglou.com> <00e201bf2f7c$e7fc8740$8a64ba8c@ppp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ It's much more stable and file sizes are what they should be. This is the rev Adobe should have released instead of 4.0. R. Moran Ron Miller wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Any idea what fixes or updates Adobe has done that makes it worthwhile to > upgrade? > > Thanks. > Ron Miller > Freelance Technical Writing Since 1988 > email: rsmiller@crocker.com > web: www.techdochelp.com > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Voice: 203-452-1116 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-mail: remoran@dconstructs.com www.dconstructs.com "Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order" - Henry Miller ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Nov-1999 0:47:26-GMT,2642;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA03226 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:47:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA19471; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:36:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:33:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA19205; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:33:27 -0600 Message-Id: <199911152333.RAA19200@everglades.binc.net> Subject: RE: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 00:32:47 +0100 x-sender: adfulga@mailhost.aptm.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Adrian Fulga To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Greetings to all from Switzerland, IMHO few other comments should be mentioned: Bergerman, Matthew [and many others] wrote on 991115 >At least Microsoft does not charge for bug fixes! > ____________________________________________ It's time for Bill to learn something from Apple&Adobe >> >> Are these guys crazy????? >> It's the first time ever I see a company trying to charge for a bug >> fix!!!!!! >> ___________________________________________ Wrong! Consider MacOS 7.x.x ->8.x.x -> 9.?.? odyssey OTHERS are INDEED No.1 in [charge-for-bug] class > >Any doubters about the effects of a monopoly? > >What is the number of the Justice Department? > _____________________________________________ What do you exactly mean? US or World Justice Dept? What about non-US customers? ... and Adobe declares to fight software piracy! How can they blame a chinese or russian CD with full Acro 4.x.x sold for less than 5 bucks? rgds afulga@aptm.com ----- ClarisEmailer2.0v3 -------- [MacB&W400+OS8.6+RAM256MB+HD18GB] ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Nov-1999 11:53:38-GMT,1768;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA16845 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:53:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA13828; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 05:45:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 05:43:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA13601; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 05:43:58 -0600 Message-Id: <199911161142.GAA26031@mx03.together.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 06:49:45 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available From: "Will Mitchell" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ sure there is, because they can. > but there is no definable > reason to charge $15 for a bug fix plus shipping. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Nov-1999 11:57:49-GMT,2357;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA16898 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:57:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA12608; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 05:33:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 05:29:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA12096; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 05:29:06 -0600 Message-Id: <199911161127.GAA24143@mx03.together.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 06:34:55 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available From: "Will Mitchell" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ talk about whiners! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Will Mitchell Reply to: mailto:Will@OffsetHouse.com The Offset House- http://www.OffsetHouse.com 89 Sand Hill Rd | PO Box 8929 | Essex VT 05451 ph 802-878-4440 | fx 802-879-4865 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ---------- >From: Duff Johnson >To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" >Subject: RE: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available >Date: Mon, Nov 15, 1999, 6:56 PM > > While we're on the subject of rants: would the List Administrator (who > is.... who?) please take a look at the listserv footer -- Halloween was a > couple of weeks ago, I think.... ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Nov-1999 13:15:24-GMT,3101;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA18273 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 06:15:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA19541; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 06:54:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 06:51:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA19209; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 06:51:36 -0600 Message-ID: <38315399.67F78CF9@rapidax.se> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:52:45 +0100 From: Micke Mirell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDF lista Subject: [PDF] Trapping and black overprint Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi you all! Is there someone out there who knows (or have a clue..) how it works with trapping and black overprint in this case: 1. Quark 4.04 to postscript. Here we use the Distiller PPD (4.0) and different objects in the layout has different trapping and overprint preferences. We have heard that, when printing composite from Quark, these preferences does NOT get contained in the ps-file. But actually, some does, and some doesn´t. HOW DOES THIS REALLY WORK? 2. Then, we destill the ps-file with Acrobat 4.0 destiller, but with Acrobat 3.0 compability. We enable "preserve overprint". 3. Finally, we write from Acrobat with the Lantana "Crackerjack" plug-in. The result on the imagesetter, is that some objects are ok, some aren´t. For example, a black frame doesn´t overprint, while a black filled box does...The RIP is supporting trapping-stuff, but can´t handle object-specific issues..that makes it important to keep this info in the ps-file from Quark. This bugs us very much, and it is the last step to actually make a PDF-workflow reality in our environment, BUT if this doesn´t work, we´ll have to cancel the whole PDF-idea... (well not really, but sometimes it just feels so..). By the way, Acrobat 4.05 and printing issues....more, please! The Adobe-site tells us nothing specific, really... Thanks to anyone who could help us out with this, and to all of you who can at least give us anything to go with...! Best Regards, Micke Mirell ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Nov-1999 13:19:11-GMT,2900;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA18321 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 06:19:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA20986; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 07:11:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 07:10:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA20809; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 07:10:19 -0600 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 08:10:05 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Re: Acrobat updates From: David Creamer To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199911161129.FAA12115@everglades.binc.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ on 11/16/99 6:29 AM, pdf-digest at owner-pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com wrote: (Various clippings) > It's the first time ever I see a company trying to charge for a bug fix!!!!!! Actually, Adobe did the CD-only update with ATM Deluxe 4.0.3 and ATR Deluxe 2.5.3 (two separate CD upgrades!). Thankfully, the ATM 4.5.X/ATR 2.5.X updates are available on line. > IMHO ... Quark is not the only organization with "culture problems." Interestingly, Quark has made all their bug fixes available for free on line and, sometimes, by shipping a free CD to owners. (Adobe did this with by shipping Acrobat 3.0.1 to recent 3.0 owners) >What is the number of the Justice Department? I read some where that Adobe was being looked at by the Justice Dept. (of course, that does not make it true). I suspect that Quark filed a complaint . >talk about whiners! It's not really about the money. The main issue for me is that I have to wait even longer before I get the bug fixes. David Creamer Publishing Consultant I.D.E.A.S. http://www.ideasdtp.com Apple Solution Expert (Member since 1990) Authorized QuarkXPress Trainer (Since 1988) Authorized Adobe Trainer for Photoshop, Illustrator, Acrobat, InDesign, & PageMaker ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Nov-1999 15:22:25-GMT,1836;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA20958 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 08:22:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA31994; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:09:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:06:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA31734; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:06:45 -0600 From: chuck.davis@ihs.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: IHS To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8725682B.00521ABA.00@domino.ihs.com> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 07:59:07 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Text extract from Image+Text Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Are there any tools available that will extract text from PDF Image+text? I have tried gsview and it does seem to support extracting text from PDF Image+text even though it does support PDF Normal. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks, Chuck Davis Information Handling Services ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Nov-1999 16:03:46-GMT,4433;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA22013 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:03:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03184; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:49:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:47:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03039; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:47:45 -0600 Message-Id: <297E9C38E03DD31187240090279334C61D2405@smtp.cepr.org> From: Michaela Cahillane To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] 'security'; preventing unauthorized distribution Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 15:35:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BF3048.2B77680C" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF3048.2B77680C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Does anyone know if there is a way to 'mark' a PDF file such that the end-user cannot see the mark, but such that we could recognise the PDF file as unmistakably belonging to us if we were to find it on an unauthorised site? Specifically, the problem is one of preventing university users from downloading papers onto a university computer (which is legitimate if they have site authorisation), and then saving it onto another site(such as one might do with reserve list readings). The current security settings do not appear to address this question. Thanks. Michaela Michaela Cahillane Electronic Publications Project Coordinator CEPR ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager immediately. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. http://www.cepr.org postmaster@cepr.org ********************************************************************** ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF3048.2B77680C Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 'security'; preventing unauthorized distribution

Does anyone know if there is a way to 'mark' a PDF = file such that the end-user cannot see the mark, but such that we could = recognise the PDF file as unmistakably belonging to us if we were to = find it on an unauthorised site?

Specifically, the problem is one of preventing = university users from downloading papers onto a university computer = (which is legitimate if they have site authorisation), and then saving = it onto another site(such as one might do with reserve list readings). =


The current security settings do not appear to = address this question. Thanks.

Michaela

Michaela Cahillane
Electronic Publications Project Coordinator
CEPR

------_=_NextPart_001_01BF3048.2B77680C-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Nov-1999 16:47:45-GMT,2539;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA23322 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:47:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA07069; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:30:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:29:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06923; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:29:34 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mgavin_list@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <297E9C38E03DD31187240090279334C61D2405@smtp.cepr.org> References: <297E9C38E03DD31187240090279334C61D2405@smtp.cepr.org> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:25:28 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mark Gavin Subject: Re: [PDF] 'security'; preventing unauthorized distribution Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Does anyone know if there is a way to 'mark' a PDF file such that >the end-user cannot see the mark, but such that we could recognise >the PDF file as unmistakably belonging to us if we were to find it >on an unauthorised site? > Michaela, StampPDF 2.0, which will be released in the next couple of weeks, has a variety of new features. One of the new features is the ability to stamp invisible text on a page. We added this feature to support full text search engine indexing of image only PDF files. Though it could also be used to tag a PDF document with a hidden identifier which can be easily found with a full text search. Mark Gavin Vice President, Software Development Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 http://www.digapp.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Nov-1999 16:47:47-GMT,7387;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA23326 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:47:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA07635; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:34:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:33:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07480; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:33:32 -0600 Message-Id: <297E9C38E03DD31187240090279334C61D2407@smtp.cepr.org> From: Michaela Cahillane To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] 'security'; preventing unauthorized distribution Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:20:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BF304E.935474D2" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF304E.935474D2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" thank you for the suggestion...I'll try that... -----Original Message----- From: Mark Webb [mailto:mxw@dgweb.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 4:22 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] 'security'; preventing unauthorized distribution How about marking each page with text/logo in whte/same color as the background ? Then you'd know where to look for it but in normal browsing/printing it would be invisible. Mark Uniplex Software, Inc. Folsom, USA [MXW>] From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of Michaela Cahillane Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 7:35 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] 'security'; preventing unauthorized distribution Does anyone know if there is a way to 'mark' a PDF file such that the end-user cannot see the mark, but such that we could recognise the PDF file as unmistakably belonging to us if we were to find it on an unauthorised site? Specifically, the problem is one of preventing university users from downloading papers onto a university computer (which is legitimate if they have site authorisation), and then saving it onto another site(such as one might do with reserve list readings). The current security settings do not appear to address this question. Thanks. Michaela Michaela Cahillane Electronic Publications Project Coordinator CEPR ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager immediately. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. http://www.cepr.org postmaster@cepr.org ********************************************************************** ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF304E.935474D2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" 'security'; preventing unauthorized distribution
thank you for the suggestion...I'll try that...
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Webb [mailto:mxw@dgweb.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 4:22 PM
To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com
Subject: RE: [PDF] 'security'; preventing unauthorized distribution

How about marking each page with text/logo in whte/same color as the background ? Then you'd know where to look for it but in normal browsing/printing it would be invisible.
Mark
Uniplex Software, Inc.
Folsom, USA

[MXW>]  From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of Michaela Cahillane
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 7:35 AM
To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com
Subject: [PDF] 'security'; preventing unauthorized distribution


Does anyone know if there is a way to 'mark' a PDF file such that the end-user cannot see the mark, but such that we could recognise the PDF file as unmistakably belonging to us if we were to find it on an unauthorised site?

Specifically, the problem is one of preventing university users from downloading papers onto a university computer (which is legitimate if they have site authorisation), and then saving it onto another site(such as one might do with reserve list readings).


The current security settings do not appear to address this question. Thanks.

Michaela

Michaela Cahillane
Electronic Publications Project Coordinator
CEPR

------_=_NextPart_001_01BF304E.935474D2-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Nov-1999 16:48:19-GMT,6388;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA23338 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:48:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06752; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:27:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:25:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06583; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:25:36 -0600 From: "Mark Webb" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] 'security'; preventing unauthorized distribution Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 08:22:27 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01BF300B.B7FF5240" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <297E9C38E03DD31187240090279334C61D2405@smtp.cepr.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BF300B.B7FF5240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 'security'; preventing unauthorized distributionHow about marking each page with text/logo in whte/same color as the background ? Then you'd know where to look for it but in normal browsing/printing it would be invisible. Mark Uniplex Software, Inc. Folsom, USA [MXW>] From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of Michaela Cahillane Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 7:35 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] 'security'; preventing unauthorized distribution Does anyone know if there is a way to 'mark' a PDF file such that the end-user cannot see the mark, but such that we could recognise the PDF file as unmistakably belonging to us if we were to find it on an unauthorised site? Specifically, the problem is one of preventing university users from downloading papers onto a university computer (which is legitimate if they have site authorisation), and then saving it onto another site(such as one might do with reserve list readings). The current security settings do not appear to address this question. Thanks. Michaela Michaela Cahillane Electronic Publications Project Coordinator CEPR ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BF300B.B7FF5240 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 'security'; preventing unauthorized = distribution
How=20 about marking each page with text/logo in whte/same color as the = background ?=20 Then you'd know where to look for it but in normal browsing/printing it = would be=20 invisible.
Mark
Uniplex Software,=20 Inc.
Folsom,=20 USA

[MXW>]  From: = owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On = Behalf=20 Of Michaela Cahillane
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 = 7:35=20 AM
To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com
Subject: [PDF] = 'security';=20 preventing unauthorized distribution


Does anyone know if there is a way to 'mark' a PDF = file such=20 that the end-user cannot see the mark, but such that we could = recognise the=20 PDF file as unmistakably belonging to us if we were to find it on an=20 unauthorised site?

Specifically, the problem is one of preventing = university=20 users from downloading papers onto a university computer (which is = legitimate=20 if they have site authorisation), and then saving it onto another = site(such as=20 one might do with reserve list readings).


The current security settings do not appear to = address this=20 question. Thanks.

Michaela

Michaela Cahillane
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------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BF300B.B7FF5240-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Nov-1999 16:53:01-GMT,2475;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA23501 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:53:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA07859; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:36:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:35:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07718; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:35:24 -0600 X-Sender: diana@pop.interport.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <297E9C38E03DD31187240090279334C61D2405@smtp.cepr.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:33:44 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Diana Holm Subject: Re: [PDF] 'security'; preventing unauthorized distribution Cc: Michaela Cahillane Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Does anyone know if there is a way to 'mark' a PDF file such that the >end-user cannot see the mark, but such that we could recognise the PDF >file as unmistakably belonging to us if we were to find it on an >unauthorised site? Michaela, Why not limit distribution of encrypted PDFs to authorized computers, such that they cannot be copied or saved to another site? This takes the burden off the university to locate and confiscate illicit copies. FileOpen Systems' product FileOpen PDF, a security plug-in to Acrobat, can help you do this. Please contact me off-list for more information or visit our Web site, http://www.fileopen.com Best, Diana Holm Director of Marketing FileOpen Systems Inc. www.fileopen.com 101 West 85th Street, Suite 1-4 New York, NY 10024 212-501-9567 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ PDF Showcase: Free-to-download PDFs help to create Halloween '99 mood ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Nov-1999 18:00:25-GMT,2497;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA25445 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:00:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA14956; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:50:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:47:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA14731; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:47:57 -0600 From: tracey.lindberg@ibs.se X-Lotus-FromDomain: IBS AB To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <4125682B.00619613.00@seibsnotes.notes.ibs.se> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:48:48 +0100 Subject: [PDF] Re: Document magnification problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi! Am having some problems with the magnification of documents when viewing them in the Reader and clicking a bookmark. I am converting Word documents to PDF format - using the following: Acrobat PDF Maker 4.0 for Microsoft Word - - Creation options = Use Acrobat Distiller. There are a lot of magnification settings to define (i.e., Destination magnification on Output and Bookmarks level) and Magnification on Display options (for the Document open options for Bookmarks and page). The problem is that when my document first launches in Reader the magnification of the document is correct (100%). As soon as I click a bookmark, the magnification of the page to which I navigated decreases in size. All subsequent navigation also has the same problem. How do I keep the magnification of each page I navigate to (via the bookmarks) at 100%????? Tracey Lindberg IBS AB Sweden ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Nov-1999 18:49:04-GMT,2272;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27031 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:49:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA19646; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:38:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:36:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA19519; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:36:39 -0600 Message-ID: <353C8BE31FD8D11181E100805FA7206501B57D23@orange7.sybrondental.com> From: "Johnson, Darrell" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 4.05 Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:33:41 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ First off let me say that I applaud the work of the Acrobat development team and underscore that I am committed to Acrobat as a great publishing solution. Annually, we spend a great deal of money for Adobe products and major updates and enjoy the added productivity the products provide. However, for Adobe to charge for a maintenance release such as 4.05 is absolutely unreasonable. I would encourage Adobe to reverse this decision to limit the damage to customer relations. Darrell Johnson Group Leader, Multimedia Design Sybron Dental Specialties johnsond@sybrondental.com http://www.sybrondental.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Nov-1999 19:10:42-GMT,1730;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27597 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:10:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21727; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:59:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:57:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21481; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:57:23 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:56:57 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tim Murphy Subject: [PDF] 4.05 Question - Could it be? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ The next question is: If we own 16 copies of 4.0, do we have to buy 16 copies of the CD to update legally and keep us in good standing for maybe a *REAL* upgrade? Murph ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Nov-1999 19:33:46-GMT,2404;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28291 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:33:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA24184; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:22:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:21:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA23972; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:21:08 -0600 From: "George Johnson" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] 4.05 Question - Could it be? Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:23:21 -0800 Message-ID: <000001bf3068$0b708a00$04e78e8c@geo_ws1.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > The next question is: If we own 16 copies of 4.0, do we have to buy 16 > copies of the CD to update legally and keep us in good standing for maybe > a *REAL* upgrade? I just went through this with Adobe yesterday. I had assumed, for some strange reason, that I needed to purchase separate copies for each license I had. The Adobe customer service rep said I only needed one. Luckily, I had just purchased a copy of 4.0, so I only had to pay $5. In retrospect, it makes sense that you would not need to purchase multiple copies of the upgrade. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Nov-1999 19:51:25-GMT,2010;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28730 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:51:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA25620; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:37:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:35:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA25537; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:35:58 -0600 Message-ID: <3831B141.3DFB213B@vdiprinting.com> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:32:20 -0600 From: "Matthew L. Kelly" Organization: VisualDimensions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" , "pdf-prepress-l@infomania.com" Subject: [PDF] TX only - 4.05 unfair upgrade cost Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Those residents of Texas wishing to file a complaint with the State's Consumer Protection Agency, please contact me off-line at . ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Nov-1999 22:02:15-GMT,5101;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02195 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 15:02:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA04998; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 15:44:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 15:42:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA04820; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 15:42:18 -0600 X-Sender: showker@mail.graphic-design.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:36:54 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Fred Showker Subject: [PDF] Looking for MAC developers Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Greetings We are beginning our "1999 Macintosh Round-Up" and wish to be in contact with any commercial or shareware developers of Macintosh software. This includes font developers clip art, PDF Content Providers, and utilities as well as stand-alone programs in all topics. This will be our third year, and the directory is syndicated via The Graphic Design Network, the News-Serve Network and the User Group Network News Service. In the past 12 months we've noticed fewer and fewer press releases being sent via iWire, News Desk and the other channels we are subscribed to. I don't know if this is an indication that developers don't have anything new to announce, or if they simply are not sending press releases like they used to. If you have a Macintosh product, commercial or shareware, please let us know so we can include it in the Round-up. Our preferred method is using the submit form at: http://www.news-serve.net/news-center/announce.html however we will accept press releases sent to: ugnetnews@aol.com The announce form will ask for up to 250 words about your product, so have a text file ready to copy/paste into the field. You are encouraged to list as many items as you wish, but please use a separate form entry for each individual product. Also be careful to select the correct Keywords for your product. There is a check box if you would like to be interviewed for our publications. The only requirement is that a person's name and contact email address be included. This helps us weed out the pure spammers who post only robots, or automated "order" desks. If you have a picture of the product online, it's helpful to include the URL in the BODY of the press release, but please pictures only. A field is provided for the URL of your site, and you want to to include that. We prefer that URL be to the specific page where the product is located rather than site entry pages. Remember: News-Serve Net is primarily used by newsletter editors looking for product releases, and fill content for printed newsletters. There are currently 1,700 editors now subscribed to the News-Serve Network, over 1,000 of them Macintosh User Groups. This kind of exposure can't be bought at any price. Additionally the syndicated resource is linked to several dozen sites including portal sites with combined sessions approaching a half million per month. Thanks for allowing this brief space, in our search to find good software and shareware products. I am at your service, and you are invited to contact me personally with questions, comments or news about your product. Fred Showker Editor/Publisher: The Graphic Design Network Director: The User Group Network PS: If you develop products specific to the Desktop Publishing graphic arts or visual communications fields be aware of http://www.dtp-jumpstation.com/ You'll find a submit form there as well. DT&G Magazine (2-time APEX Grand Award Winner) * Photoshop Tips & Tricks .... * WebDesign & REVIEW (tm) .... * The Design & Publishing Center * The User Group Network News Service Now serving 172,000 readers per month! 60-Second Window -- Now Celebrating our 118th Monthly Edition Post your announcements at: http://www.news-serve.net/news-center/announce.html -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Nov-1999 23:08:18-GMT,3223;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03991 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:08:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA11384; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:54:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:51:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA11024; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:51:20 -0600 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9CDF@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:51:16 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > ---------- > From: Duff Johnson[SMTP:DuffJ@document-solutions.com] > Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 5:56 PM > Subject: RE: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available > > OK! Enough rants on Adobe! I'm SURE they got the message. What a > waste > of bandwidth! If I'm not much mistaken, that goose (Adobe) is laying > the > golden eggs for this listserv readership - lest we forget! > Not for me. I work for a utility, and I get paid for accomplishing my task in the best method possible. I don't get more pay because I use Adobe Acrobat. In fact, taking into consideration all the time wasted on "bugs," workarounds, R&D, etc., I doubt that my company has realized any profit at all from Acrobat. That goose is laying eggs all right, but they aren't golden... > If $14 breaks the bank, you have bigger problems than being charged > for a > bug fix anyhow. > That's not the point. The point is that we shouldn't be charged for a fix to errors which are Adobe's fault to start with. And these are the same folks who, after releasing Acrobat 4.0, made us wait several weeks for the Reader with the Search plug-in, without which Acrobat 4.0 was effectively useless, then initially offered it only on a CD, which you had to pay for...(sound familiar?). I'm becoming disillusioned with Adobe. > While we're on the subject of rants: would the List Administrator (who > is.... who?) please take a look at the listserv footer -- Halloween > was a > couple of weeks ago, I think.... > The list administrator can be reached at pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Nov-1999 23:26:17-GMT,2937;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04400 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:26:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA12898; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:07:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:06:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA12725; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:06:05 -0600 Message-ID: <0FAAFBF846ABD211A19100805FA6A55A77333E@gold.dolby.com> From: "Goldin, Susan" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: Acrobat updates Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 15:06:58 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BF3087.1EA917A0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF3087.1EA917A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Our Purchasing Rep spent 30 minutes on hold yesterday before giving up. Today it only took 45 minutes, but the person on the other end of the phone didn't sound too bright, so we aren't going to hold our breath waiting to receive the updates. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF3087.1EA917A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [PDF] Re: Acrobat updates

Our Purchasing Rep spent 30 minutes on = hold yesterday before giving up.  Today it only took 45 minutes, = but the person on the other end of the phone didn't sound too bright, = so we aren't going to hold our breath waiting to receive the = updates.


------_=_NextPart_001_01BF3087.1EA917A0-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Nov-1999 0:12:36-GMT,2106;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA05548 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:12:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA11426; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:54:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:52:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA11216; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:52:10 -0600 Message-ID: <003901bf3085$dfb18540$024cd6d1@ferguson> From: "Jerry W. Ferguson" To: References: Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Acrobat updates Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:56:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Has anyone actually gotten ahold of an Adobe "customer service" rep on the phone? I tried last night for about an hour and also today again for about 1.5 hours. There has to be another way to get these updates. I refuse to fax my credit card #. This is disgraceful in all aspects. Jerry Ferguson ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Nov-1999 0:23:43-GMT,4412;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA05786 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:23:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA13479; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:12:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:11:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA13278; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:11:19 -0600 Message-ID: <3831E2FB.27F648B9@teleweb.at> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 00:04:27 +0100 From: "Wilhelm G. JANY" Organization: WJT- Wien X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available References: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9CDF@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Dear Friends, the message from Gary is o.k. Dont care, make your business, and use your communication costs (additinal to the $14,- ) to a anything else. (pls find the below the message of the day) best regards, __________________________________________ Wilhelm G. Jany / WJT-Austria jany@teleweb.at Phone: +43 -1 5223002 13 Mobil: +43-699-10 458 459 Internet: http://www.ipix.at MOTD: money lost-nothing lost, health lost-something lost, spirit lost-everthing-lost (origin by igor sikorky - 1905) Decker Gary E wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > > ---------- > > From: Duff Johnson[SMTP:DuffJ@document-solutions.com] > > Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 5:56 PM > > Subject: RE: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available > > > > OK! Enough rants on Adobe! I'm SURE they got the message. What a > > waste > > of bandwidth! If I'm not much mistaken, that goose (Adobe) is laying > > the > > golden eggs for this listserv readership - lest we forget! > > > Not for me. I work for a utility, and I get paid for accomplishing my > task in the best method possible. I don't get more pay because I use > Adobe Acrobat. In fact, taking into consideration all the time wasted > on "bugs," workarounds, R&D, etc., I doubt that my company has realized > any profit at all from Acrobat. That goose is laying eggs all right, > but they aren't golden... > > > If $14 breaks the bank, you have bigger problems than being charged > > for a > > bug fix anyhow. > > > That's not the point. The point is that we shouldn't be charged for a > fix to errors which are Adobe's fault to start with. And these are the > same folks who, after releasing Acrobat 4.0, made us wait several weeks > for the Reader with the Search plug-in, without which Acrobat 4.0 was > effectively useless, then initially offered it only on a CD, which you > had to pay for...(sound familiar?). I'm becoming disillusioned with > Adobe. > > > While we're on the subject of rants: would the List Administrator (who > > is.... who?) please take a look at the listserv footer -- Halloween > > was a > > couple of weeks ago, I think.... > > > The list administrator can be reached at pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com. > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Nov-1999 2:59:37-GMT,2411;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA09181 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:59:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA30862; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:46:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:43:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA30633; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:43:23 -0600 Message-Id: <199911170243.VAA08426@smtp5.mindspring.com> Subject: [PDF] Re: rgb and cmyk to greyscale conversion Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 21:46:00 -0500 x-sender: mikejahn@pop.mindspring.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: mikejahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id UAA30628 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ you would need to buy a thrid party plug-in i think - www.enfocus.com or www.callas.de might offer such tools as would aandi quite a box of tricks at www.quite.com >Hi everbody ! >who can help me out on that ? >I have a pdf file with a lot of pics and now I want to convert these >pics to black&white color sheme(I hope this is the right English expression) >but >i didnĄt find any option in exchange or in the writer. >The orignal file is a word file. > >thanxs a lot , > >Sebastian Betz Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa Gevaert NV Septestraat 27 B-2640 Mortsel Belgium www.agfahome.com www.jahn.org 011 32 3 444 3921 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Nov-1999 5:47:04-GMT,5220;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA12950 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 22:47:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA10880; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 23:33:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 16 Nov 1999 23:30:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA10528; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 23:30:07 -0600 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 21:28:55 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> From: Duff Johnson[SMTP:DuffJ@document-solutions.com] >> Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 5:56 PM >> Subject: RE: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available >> >> OK! Enough rants on Adobe! I'm SURE they got the message. What a >> waste >> of bandwidth! If I'm not much mistaken, that goose (Adobe) is laying >> the >> golden eggs for this listserv readership - lest we forget! >> >Not for me. I work for a utility, and I get paid for accomplishing my >task in the best method possible. I don't get more pay because I use >Adobe Acrobat. In fact, taking into consideration all the time wasted >on "bugs," workarounds, R&D, etc., I doubt that my company has realized >any profit at all from Acrobat. That goose is laying eggs all right, >but they aren't golden... Well, you make my point for me. Acrobat _is_ the best method possible, warts & all. Which is likely why you're using it, right? If it's the right tool for the job.... $14, boo-hoo, but that's business! All the time into workarounds, R&D, etc... no more of a pain than with any other software that's as powerful as Acrobat. The cost thing just doesn't get me riled. I have 20 licences of some other software with annual "maintainance fees" in the hundreds of dollars, yet more software with various forms of "clicking dongles" at $450 a throw... Paying for fixes, minor upgrades, etc, is a well established practice in the high-end software industry. $14 is not worth the bandwidth (or the time) it's cost to whine about, IMHO. >> If $14 breaks the bank, you have bigger problems than being charged >> for a >> bug fix anyhow. >> >That's not the point. The point is that we shouldn't be charged for a >fix to errors which are Adobe's fault to start with. I really don't understand this point. "Adobe's fault," what is that? They aren't under any specific obligation to sell highly sophisticated AND totally bug-free and completely thought-out software up front, are they? LOTS of compaines put less changes into whole "version" upgrades. 4.05 is a release upgrade... big deal! In functional terms, those "fixes" are easily worth $14 to me -- and most likely to you. > And these are the >same folks who, after releasing Acrobat 4.0, made us wait several weeks >for the Reader with the Search plug-in, without which Acrobat 4.0 was >effectively useless, then initially offered it only on a CD, which you >had to pay for...(sound familiar?). I'm becoming disillusioned with >Adobe. I totally agree that they've handled this item and and others like it poorly in timeframe and PR terms. On this sorry-ass upgrade story, Adobe must be spending at LEAST $14 to service each person who calls them for the disc in 800# time ALONE. The download version (is there one yet?) is VERY hard to find as well. OK, I haven't even found it yet.... >> While we're on the subject of rants: would the List Administrator (who >> is.... who?) please take a look at the listserv footer -- Halloween >> was a >> couple of weeks ago, I think.... >> >The list administrator can be reached at pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com. Looks like they read the listserv as well. :-) >___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on >improving the >speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. www.document-solutions.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Nov-1999 10:01:38-GMT,1999;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA18179 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 03:01:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA29085; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 03:52:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 03:48:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA28671; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 03:48:19 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991117094600.007e07b0@edinpophub> X-Sender: johnd@edinpophub X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:46:00 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: John Donaldson Subject: RE: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >$14 is not worth the bandwidth (or the time) Yep, and when they charge even more the next time round we should actually thank them. After all its a "well established practice in the high-end software industry." I wonder how it got that way? John ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Nov-1999 10:42:14-GMT,2730;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA18920 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 03:42:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA31916; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 04:30:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 04:27:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA31701; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 04:27:10 -0600 Message-Id: <4.2.2.19991117102330.00b94ea0@torpedo.qss.co.uk> X-Sender: paulc@torpedo.qss.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:27:52 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Paul Clunie Subject: RE: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19991117094600.007e07b0@edinpophub> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Yep, and when they charge even more the next time round we should actually >thank them. After all its a "well established practice in the high-end >software industry." I wonder how it got that way? So how did it get that way, John? Is this the forum for righteous indignation and posturing or should I keep my thoughts for a more apposite venue? paulc ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- Paul Clunie - Technical Support Engineer Quality Systems & Software Ltd. 13 Atholl Crescent, Edinburgh, EH3 8HA For support please email: support@qss.co.uk Email: paulc@qss.co.uk Tel: +44 (0)131 538 7650 Fax: +44 (0)131 538 7651 Web Page: http://www.qssinc.com Announcing InDOORS Europe 2000 Date : 19th September 2000 Venue : Wokefield Park near Reading, UK mailto:pascale.asbee@oxford.qss.co.uk for further details ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Nov-1999 12:00:24-GMT,3241;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA20278 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 05:00:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA04682; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 05:47:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 05:43:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA04399; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 05:43:28 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991117114112.007fd420@edinpophub> X-Sender: johnd@edinpophub X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 11:41:12 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: John Donaldson Subject: RE: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 update In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.19991117102330.00b94ea0@torpedo.qss.co.uk> References: <3.0.6.32.19991117094600.007e07b0@edinpophub> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id FAA04395 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ OK Paul, My last "contribution" on this; then I'll shut up, honest. >So how did it get that way, John? Because too many people put up with "established" practices which it would have been healthier to "dis-establish". If software does not do correctly what was claimed for it, why should it be treated any different to any other product? Why should anybody be made to pay to get a product to do correctly what it was claimed it would do when they bought it in the first place? "The Acme Motor Company's central-locking update is now available. Among the many other issues dealt with this update corrects the problem whereby every Friday when you try to unlock your car the system fails and you have to take the bus to work. The update is only available from Acme Motor Co. and will be priced at Łxxx.xx" I don't think so. > Is this the forum for righteous indignation and posturing or should I keep >my thoughts for a more apposite venue? One man's "righteous indignation and posturing" is another's reasonable protest. An apposite venue? -- Ryrie's, Friday, 6 o'clock? (Sorry folks, that's a private joke -- its a pub in Edinburgh). John --- John Donaldson Macromedia Europe Technical Support Tel: 0131 458 6766 Fax: 0131 458 6765 support@macromedia.co.uk ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Nov-1999 12:09:39-GMT,3070;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA20499 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 05:09:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA05470; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 05:55:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 05:53:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA05201; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 05:53:11 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991117115058.00806d70@edinpophub> X-Sender: johnd@edinpophub X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 11:50:58 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: John Donaldson Subject: RE: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 update Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id FAA05197 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ OK Paul, My last "contribution" on this; then I'll shut up, honest. >So how did it get that way, John? Because too many people put up with "established" practices which it would have been healthier to "dis-establish". If software does not do correctly what was claimed for it, why should it be treated any different to any other product? Why should anybody be made to pay to get a product to do correctly what it was claimed it would do when they bought it in the first place? "The Acme Motor Company's central-locking update is now available. Among the many other issues dealt with this update corrects the problem whereby every Friday when you try to unlock your car the system fails and you have to take the bus to work. The update is only available from Acme Motor Co. and will be priced at Łxxx.xx" I don't think so. > Is this the forum for righteous indignation and posturing or should I keep >my thoughts for a more apposite venue? One man's "righteous indignation and posturing" is another's reasonable protest. An "apposite venue"? -- Ryrie's, Friday, 6 o'clock? (Sorry folks, that's a private joke -- its a pub in Edinburgh). John --- John Donaldson Macromedia Europe Technical Support Tel: 0131 458 6766 Fax: 0131 458 6765 support@macromedia.co.uk ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Nov-1999 12:48:50-GMT,3070;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA21192 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 05:48:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA09102; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 06:38:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 06:36:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA08980; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 06:36:03 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991117123344.008037b0@edinpophub> X-Sender: johnd@edinpophub X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:33:44 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: John Donaldson Subject: RE: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 update Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id GAA08976 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ OK Paul, My last "contribution" on this; then I'll shut up, honest. >So how did it get that way, John? Because too many people put up with "established" practices which it would have been healthier to "dis-establish". If software does not do correctly what was claimed for it, why should it be treated any different to any other product? Why should anybody be made to pay to get a product to do correctly what it was claimed it would do when they bought it in the first place? "The Acme Motor Company's central-locking update is now available. Among the many other issues dealt with this update corrects the problem whereby every Friday when you try to unlock your car the system fails and you have to take the bus to work. The update is only available from Acme Motor Co. and will be priced at Łxxx.xx" I don't think so. > Is this the forum for righteous indignation and posturing or should I keep >my thoughts for a more apposite venue? One man's "righteous indignation and posturing" is another's reasonable protest. An "apposite venue"? -- Ryrie's, Friday, 6 o'clock? (Sorry folks, that's a private joke -- its a pub in Edinburgh). John --- John Donaldson Macromedia Europe Technical Support Tel: 0131 458 6766 Fax: 0131 458 6765 support@macromedia.co.uk ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Nov-1999 13:03:19-GMT,2291;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA21453 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 06:03:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA09831; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 06:44:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 06:42:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA09621; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 06:42:20 -0600 Message-Id: <199911171239.HAA12389@mx01.together.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:48:10 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 update From: "Will Mitchell" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ cut it out youre making us jealous -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Will Mitchell Reply to: mailto:Will@OffsetHouse.com The Offset House- http://www.OffsetHouse.com 89 Sand Hill Rd | PO Box 8929 | Essex VT 05451 ph 802-878-4440 | fx 802-879-4865 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ---------- >From: John Donaldson >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: RE: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 update >Date: Wed, Nov 17, 1999, 6:41 AM > > Ryrie's, Friday, 6 o'clock? (Sorry folks, > that's a private joke -- its a pub in Edinburgh). ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Nov-1999 13:11:31-GMT,5971;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA21599 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 06:11:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA11311; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:02:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 06:58:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA10852; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 06:58:44 -0600 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 04:58:49 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available From: Rich Sprague To: , , , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > From: Duff Johnson >> That's not the point. The point is that we shouldn't be charged for a >> fix to errors which are Adobe's fault to start with. > I totally agree that they've handled this item and and others like it poorly > in timeframe and PR terms. On this sorry-ass upgrade story, Adobe must be > spending at LEAST $14 to service each person who calls them for the disc in > 800# time ALONE. The download version (is there one yet?) is VERY hard to > find as well. As an outspoken supporter, and sometimes critic, of Acrobat, this whole mess is embarrassing for me. To make matters worse, my company is an authorized reseller (I was going to say "dealer", but that didn't sound right). I've been trying for months to purchase upgrades from Acrobat 3.x and sell them to our customers. My wholesale cost is the street price for an upgrade...which doesn't matter. It's an opportunity for me to provide a service for people I do business with. And to promote Acrobat. Up to this point, I can't obtain the required authorization to purchase the upgrades from our wholesaler for reasons which are unclear to me, except it was implied to me that the upgrades have a low profit margin. Okay, so let's make it simple and cost-effective (the darn software is simply a disk and thin installation manual). Allow service providers like myself to take their master copy to the customer for installation. Registered users can go online and pay by credit card and obtain a serial number for the upgrade. Why bother, you ask? It's back to the personal service issue. Many customers don't know about the upgrade or perhaps recognize the value to them. In spite of all the bugs, Acrobat 4 is a better product than Acrobat 3. I, as a service provider, have the ability to influence customers to upgrade. Often, however, the upgrade needs to be done now...while it's fresh in their mind...and while I am prodding them to get it taken care of. Ordering by phone is the pits...you've read the reports on how long people are having to wait to speak with an operator. Ordering on-line can be better, but then there is the wait for the software...which can be days or even weeks. Let's get the clog out of the pipeline so people can upgrade to Acrobat 4.x *before* the announcements start arriving about Acrobat 5. What's more, there are people who -- for whatever reason -- haven't or won't upgrade to Acrobat 4.x (even if I could supply them with the upgrades ). If you haven't noticed, all the version 3 fixes have been removed from Adobe's web site. These updates should be available to consumers indefinitely, as they have paid for version 3.x and should be able to obtain the latest updates at any time. I love the product...without question...there's so much you can do with it. It is Adobe's flagship product, although it's hard to compete with Photoshop. The people I know, and who I have interacted with, at Adobe are terrific human beings. I applaud the company for their compromise with the fsType issue which was the focus of one of my articles a few weeks back. *The fsType recognition for the embedding of TrueType fonts has been changed in Distiller 4.05.* But I am deeply concerned with some of the company's marketing strategy. And I sincerely hope that they will take to heart not just the ranting, but the fact that 100s, if not 1000s, of professional users are asking to be treated better. This is really what the clamoring is all about. It's not about a few dollars, or a few thousand bugs. It's about respect, fairness and honesty. It's about values. Rich ================================================================ Rich Sprague, Contributing Editor Planet PDF rsprague@planetpdf.com http://www.planetpdf.com ================================================================ Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress PDF/Acrobat Consulting Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-5900 http://www.infomania.com ================================================================ ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Nov-1999 13:14:32-GMT,2263;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA21681 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 06:14:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA11800; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:08:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:05:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA11620; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:05:36 -0600 Date: 17 Nov 1999 14:04:51 +0100 Message-ID: <-1269275009ort@bergersen.no> From: richard taubo Subject: [PDF] Improved Web browser integration . . . To: X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 2.0 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id HAA11614 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi! At http://www.PDFzone.com/news/Acrobat405.html I see that using Acrobat 4.05: __snippet__ "PDF files can now be displayed properly in Navigator and Explorer browsers, and Acrobat no longer crashes when PDFs are viewed embedded in HTML files. Improved printing." __snippet__ Does this mean that Acrobat 4.0 created files that caused Acrobat Reader to display PDF files improperly or even crash (embedded) when viewed through Navigator or Explorer?!? I am still using 3.X and have not tried out Acrobat 4.0. Thanks! Richard Taubo ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Nov-1999 14:01:43-GMT,2502;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA22579 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:01:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA15583; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:51:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:48:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA15251; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:48:36 -0600 From: tracey.lindberg@ibs.se X-Lotus-FromDomain: IBS AB To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <4125682C.004BAFDA.00@seibsnotes.notes.ibs.se> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 14:49:33 +0100 Subject: [PDF] Re: Need help with magnification problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi! Am having some problems with the magnification of documents when viewing them in the Reader and clicking a bookmark. I am converting Word documents to PDF format - using the following: Acrobat PDF Maker 4.0 for Microsoft Word - - Creation options = Use Acrobat Distiller. There are a lot of magnification settings to define (i.e., Destination magnification on Output and Bookmarks level) and Magnification on Display options (for the Document open options for Bookmarks and page). The problem is that when my document first launches in Reader the magnification of the document is correct (100%). As soon as I click a bookmark, the magnification of the page to which I navigated decreases in size. All subsequent navigation also has the same problem. How do I keep the magnification of each page I navigate to (via the bookmarks) at 100%????? Tracey Lindberg IBS AB Sweden ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Nov-1999 14:07:18-GMT,4064;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA22681 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:07:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA16391; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:59:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:57:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA16192; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:57:20 -0600 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9CE1@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:57:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > ---------- > From: Duff Johnson[SMTP:DuffJ@document-solutions.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 11:28 PM > Subject: RE: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available > > Well, you make my point for me. Acrobat _is_ the best method > possible, > warts & all. Which is likely why you're using it, right? If it's the > right > tool for the job.... $14, boo-hoo, but that's business! > No, it's not. There's another word for it. > All the time into workarounds, R&D, etc... no more of a pain than with > any > other software that's as powerful as Acrobat. > That's just not my experience, sorry. > The cost thing just doesn't get me riled. I have 20 licences of some > other > software with annual "maintainance fees" in the hundreds of dollars, > yet > more software with various forms of "clicking dongles" at $450 a > throw... > Paying for fixes, minor upgrades, etc, is a well established practice > in the > high-end software industry. $14 is not worth the bandwidth (or the > time) > it's cost to whine about, IMHO. > And as long as everybody else has that attitude, it will only get worse. > I really don't understand this point. "Adobe's fault," what is that? > They > aren't under any specific obligation to sell highly sophisticated AND > totally bug-free and completely thought-out software up front, are > they? > LOTS of compaines put less changes into whole "version" upgrades. > 4.05 is a > release upgrade... big deal! In functional terms, those "fixes" are > easily > worth $14 to me -- and most likely to you. > Upgrade my foot. Distiller just "happened" to ignore compression settings, making files much larger than need be. It also misinterpreted font properties, refusing to embed fonts which were embeddable. PDFMaker just "happened" to not function on Windows NT 4.0, unless the user had administrator privileges. These aren't minor functions of the software, these are some of the major selling points. I already paid for Acrobat 4.0 once. It didn't work as promised, not even close (the previous version worked better). > I totally agree that they've handled this item and and others like it > poorly > in timeframe and PR terms. On this sorry-ass upgrade story, Adobe > must be > spending at LEAST $14 to service each person who calls them for the > disc in > 800# time ALONE. The download version (is there one yet?) is VERY hard > to > find as well. > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Nov-1999 14:19:37-GMT,3128;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA22929 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:19:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17187; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:05:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:02:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA16787; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:02:17 -0600 Message-Id: <199911171359.IAA08206@mx01.together.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:08:07 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available From: "Will Mitchell" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Because the two create completely different results depending on so much crap that they will stick to the one that works. This whole issue cracks me up. Why should anyone complain anymore? These software companies have been doing this (charging for fixes and whatnot) for years. Get over it. What ticks me off is the false and misleading statements in their marketing tools that promise all kinds of functionality, deliver on maybe two and then blame the rest on the myriad differences in operating systems and applications. PageMaker, Quark, Acrobat etc do not function exactly the same on two computers. So they never have to accept responsibility. Enough said, lets talk some more about how the OpenType specs are going to screw everything up and we can forget about this issue. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Will Mitchell Reply to: mailto:Will@OffsetHouse.com The Offset House- http://www.OffsetHouse.com 89 Sand Hill Rd | PO Box 8929 | Essex VT 05451 ph 802-878-4440 | fx 802-879-4865 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ---------- >From: Rich Sprague >To: , , , >Subject: Re: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available >Date: Wed, Nov 17, 1999, 7:58 AM > > What's more, there are people who -- for whatever reason -- haven't or won't > upgrade to Acrobat 4.x ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Nov-1999 14:35:31-GMT,2294;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA23294 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:35:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA18759; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:20:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:19:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAB18619; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:19:27 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991117092623.0094aba0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:26:23 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] TX only - 4.05 unfair upgrade cost In-Reply-To: <3831B141.3DFB213B@vdiprinting.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Wouldn't it be more appropriate to wait and see how Adobe responds to our complaints rather than jumping directly into the law-pit? Everybody makes mistakes. Let's give them half a chance to correct theirs. > >Those residents of Texas wishing to file a complaint with the State's >Consumer Protection Agency, please contact me off-line at >. > Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Nov-1999 14:35:36-GMT,2833;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA23298 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:35:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA19408; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:26:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:24:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA19261; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:24:54 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991117093150.0094ab80@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:31:50 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 update In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19991117114112.007fd420@edinpophub> References: <4.2.2.19991117102330.00b94ea0@torpedo.qss.co.uk> <3.0.6.32.19991117094600.007e07b0@edinpophub> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA19257 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >"The Acme Motor Company's central-locking update is now available. Among >the many other issues dealt with this update corrects the problem whereby >every Friday when you try to unlock your car the system fails and you have >to take the bus to work. The update is only available from Acme Motor Co. >and will be priced at Łxxx.xx" > >I don't think so. > >John >--- >John Donaldson >Macromedia Europe Technical Support >Tel: 0131 458 6766 >Fax: 0131 458 6765 >support@macromedia.co.uk So when IS the Fontographer bug re font embedding values going to be fixed? And how much will it cost? Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Nov-1999 14:49:34-GMT,3352;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA23614 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:49:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA20526; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:36:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:35:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA20445; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:35:30 -0600 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 06:35:35 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 update From: Rich Sprague To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19991117093150.0094ab80@pop.iglou.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA20437 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > From: Steve Rindsberg > >> "The Acme Motor Company's central-locking update is now available. Among >> the many other issues dealt with this update corrects the problem whereby >> every Friday when you try to unlock your car the system fails and you have >> to take the bus to work. The update is only available from Acme Motor Co. >> and will be priced at Łxxx.xx" >> >> I don't think so. >> >> John >> --- >> John Donaldson >> Macromedia Europe Technical Support >> Tel: 0131 458 6766 >> Fax: 0131 458 6765 >> support@macromedia.co.uk > > > So when IS the Fontographer bug re font embedding values going to be fixed? > And how much will it cost? > > > I did resist, but I shouldn't have. Since Adobe knows that Macromedia will *never* fix their darn Edsel, or take it off the market -- remember the Edsel? -- Acrobat 4.05 *does* allow the embedding of all fonts except those with the fsType 0002. The score? Adobe 1 - Macromedia 0. Rich ================================================================ Rich Sprague, Contributing Editor Planet PDF rsprague@planetpdf.com http://www.planetpdf.com ================================================================ Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress PDF/Acrobat Consulting Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-5900 http://www.infomania.com ================================================================ ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Nov-1999 14:51:43-GMT,5121;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA23645 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:51:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA20948; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:40:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:39:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA20800; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:39:21 -0600 Message-ID: <3832C08C.7C76E75@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:49:49 -0400 From: Bryan Guignard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 now available References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Rich Sprague wrote: > As an outspoken supporter, and sometimes critic, of Acrobat, this whole mess > is embarrassing for me. > > Ordering by phone is the pits...you've read the reports on how long people > are having to wait to speak with an operator. Ordering on-line can be > better, but then there is the wait for the software...which can be days or > even weeks. > > This is really what the clamoring is all about. It's not about a few > dollars, or a few thousand bugs. It's about respect, fairness and honesty. > > It's about values. Rich, It certainly is about values, and you make valid points. Here is something else to consider. This is only "my" story but I wonder how many similar cases there are out there? Why is this reversal of technology taking place? The WWW is increasingly becoming the place to download software and upgrades, but now I must pay shipping charges to get it by mail! Problem #1 I invested a lot of extra money to have an ADSL connection at home. My main reason is so I can download the increasing number of large software files required to keep my software collection up to date. Now I get to pay the extra cost of this connection as well as unnecessary shipping charges!! Problem #2 I invested in a CDROM recorder. My main reason is so I can appropriately archive all the large software upgrade files I can now download through my speedy and costly internet connection. I didn't purchase this costly CD recorder so I could purchase bug fix CDs that cost ten times more than if I made them myself!! Am I the only one incurring these extra technological costs for the sake of a faster, more efficient and less polluting software delivery system? Someone at Adobe must be severely stressed out and can't make sense anymore. May I suggest he/she take a vacation, on a farm perhaps, and observe that a wagon does indeed go behind a horse, rather than this bassackwards way that Adobe is attempting to push technology. At the very least Adobe should think of our abused environment and make a better effort at being a "responsible corporate citizen". How many trees will it take to produce all the useless paper or cardboard that will be needed to wrap all these needless CDs for shipping? How many delivery vehicles spewing toxic fumes into the air will it take to deliver all these needless CDs? Where is Adobe's policy on such matters? As Rich mentioned it is indeed about values. I value the air I breathe and the only planet I have to live on. I also value every dollar I earn and the technology I purchase with those dollars. I value the efforts that I and so many others make to promote and encourage cleaner, friendlier and more efficient technologies. I value these things because they are good things to do and I expect Adobe to contribute their share of effort to the cause. If Adobe wants to make my investment in "their" software of little or no value then that is their prerogative. They are allowed to do what they choose with their own products. But I'm not going to accept this kind of regressive behavior when it threatens the other investments in technology I make. So wake up Adobe! Your change in direction is wasteful, abusive, polluting, unreliable and downright ill spirited. I'm not saying you don't deserve to make a decent profit from your efforts, you do, and I'm willing to contribute, but not like this. Bryan Guignard ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Nov-1999 14:57:59-GMT,2903;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA23789 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:57:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA21402; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:43:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:42:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA21246; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:42:19 -0600 Message-Id: <4.2.2.19991117143741.00b969f0@torpedo.qss.co.uk> X-Sender: paulc@torpedo.qss.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 14:43:31 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Paul Clunie Subject: RE: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 update In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19991117093150.0094ab80@pop.iglou.com> References: <3.0.6.32.19991117114112.007fd420@edinpophub> <4.2.2.19991117102330.00b94ea0@torpedo.qss.co.uk> <3.0.6.32.19991117094600.007e07b0@edinpophub> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA21242 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >"The Acme Motor Company's central-locking update is now available. Among > >the many other issues dealt with this update corrects the problem whereby > >every Friday when you try to unlock your car the system fails and you have > >to take the bus to work. The update is only available from Acme Motor Co. > >and will be priced at Łxxx.xx" > > > >I don't think so. > > > >John > >--- > >John Donaldson > >Macromedia Europe Technical Support > >Tel: 0131 458 6766 > >Fax: 0131 458 6765 > >support@macromedia.co.uk > > >So when IS the Fontographer bug re font embedding values going to be fixed? > And how much will it cost? > > I can't either. Surely it is better that bugs are acknowledged and fixed, charges notwithstanding, rather than ignored and uncovered in another application entirely? paulc ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Nov-1999 15:09:17-GMT,2051;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA24015 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:09:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA22491; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:53:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:52:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22361; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:52:16 -0600 Message-Id: <4.2.2.19991117145305.00b10600@torpedo.qss.co.uk> X-Sender: paulc@torpedo.qss.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 14:53:28 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Paul Clunie Subject: RE: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 update Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >John Donaldson > >Macromedia Europe Technical Support > >So when IS the Fontographer bug re font embedding values going to be fixed? > And how much will it cost? > > I can't either. Surely it is better that bugs are acknowledged and fixed, charges notwithstanding, rather than ignored and uncovered in another application entirely? paulc ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Nov-1999 16:15:42-GMT,2647;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25933 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:15:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29389; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:02:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:00:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29006; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:00:04 -0600 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:35:49 -0800 From: Linda Moore Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0.5 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: <3832E775.459DDC80@pobox.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en]C-SBIS-NC404 (Win16; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ The unintended result of Adobe's policy may well be that customers will not purchase the next x.00 upgrade but will wait until the x.03 or x.05 version. Now how many software vendors can stay in business if a substantial percentage of their customers refuse to buy the buggy x.0, x.1 or x.1 versions of their software. To me the cost of the upgrade is not the major issue. The major issue is that a software vendor is treating me like I am an idiot and with a complete lack of respect. Like I am just waiting at my computer for the next software vendor to tell me that they did a crappy job on the initial major version release and they need some more of my money and they will "try" to make it right. Software vendors need to remember that customers do not have to buy the major version upgrade. Customers buy it based on the trust and good faith relationship that they have with each of their software vendors. When this is broken, customers can always find other alternatives, even if they are not as desirable. Linda Moore ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Nov-1999 16:27:30-GMT,2732;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26328 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:27:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29811; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:06:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:05:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29677; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:05:20 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991117160301.007d8100@edinpophub> X-Sender: johnd@edinpophub X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 16:03:01 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: John Donaldson Subject: RE: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 update In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.19991117145305.00b10600@torpedo.qss.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >>So when IS the Fontographer bug re font embedding values going to be fixed? >> And how much will it cost? >> >> I'm sure you couldn't! >I can't either. Surely it is better that bugs are acknowledged and fixed, >charges notwithstanding, rather than ignored and uncovered in another >application entirely? Absolutely. Except the bit about charges. Why should there be charges? All and any opinions expressed by me in this list are my personal opinions and I see no reason to change them. I do not have any authority, or indeed any wish, to make statements on behalf of Macromedia in this list. I have been using Acrobat and been a member of this list in an individual capacity a lot longer than I've been in my present employment so, while its good for a laugh, none of the above invalidates anything substantive that I had to say. John --- John Donaldson Macromedia Europe Technical Support Tel: 0131 458 6766 Fax: 0131 458 6765 support@macromedia.co.uk ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Nov-1999 17:39:13-GMT,2173;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28607 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:39:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05010; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 11:26:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 11:24:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04763; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 11:24:07 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Kenney, Sharon" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] GOOD NEWS re: Acrobat 4.05 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:18:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I just spoke with a customer service rep at Adobe on another matter and inquired about 4.05. Put in my 2 cents worth about charging for a bug fix for a product I've owned only 60 days. When she called me back about my original question, she said she had just found out that Adobe will NOT be charging for the 4.05 bug fix. So of course I ordered it. Next time you have 90 minutes to spare waiting on hold, call and be persistent about the no-charge change in policy. Worked for me. Sharon Kenney Tech. Com. Mgr. First American Nationwide Documents ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Nov-1999 18:10:50-GMT,3875;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29724 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 11:10:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA07774; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 11:55:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 11:54:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07604; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 11:54:16 -0600 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:54:11 -0800 Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 4.05 From: Rich Sprague To: , , , , , , Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I just spoke with a customer service rep at Adobe on another matter and > inquired about 4.05. Put in my 2 cents worth about charging for a bug fix > for a product I've owned only 60 days. When she called me back about my > original question, she said she had just found out that Adobe will NOT be > charging for the 4.05 bug fix. So of course I ordered it. Next time you have > 90 minutes to spare waiting on hold, call and be persistent about the > no-charge change in policy. Worked for me. > Sharon Kenney > Tech. Com. Mgr. > First American Nationwide Documents Actually, it is posts to these discussion lists that help businesses understand how their customers feel, what their feature needs are, makes them aware of bugs, etc. It also helps that organizations and such as Planet PDF, Blueworld, PDFzone, CTP Pressroom and InfoMania provide either these forums and/or web sites devoted to Acrobat users. The moral to the story is if you feel strongly about something...make your feelings known on the discussion lists and forums. The posts are read by people who can make things happen. As far as the customer service people go they, unfortunately, are just messengers. It was probably the contributors to the lists that had the most impact regarding the change of policy. I'm sure the CSRs got tired of hearing complaints, too, and got their two cents in. Adobe received a 15-yard penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct. But they got their act together and just scored a touchdown. Rich ================================================================ Rich Sprague, Contributing Editor Planet PDF rsprague@planetpdf.com http://www.planetpdf.com ================================================================ Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress PDF/Acrobat Consulting Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-5900 http://www.infomania.com ================================================================ ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Nov-1999 18:11:00-GMT,2949;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29728 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 11:10:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA07758; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 11:55:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 11:53:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07518; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 11:53:41 -0600 Message-ID: <36CC55F2.7C7166A9@tallent.com> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:03:30 -0600 From: David X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] GOOD NEWS re: Acrobat 4.05 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Yeah! Thanks for listening to the hours of crappy music while waiting to speak to someone. Man, my boss will be happy to hear about Adobe's new decision. Dave "Kenney, Sharon" wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > I just spoke with a customer service rep at Adobe on another matter and > inquired about 4.05. Put in my 2 cents worth about charging for a bug fix > for a product I've owned only 60 days. When she called me back about my > original question, she said she had just found out that Adobe will NOT be > charging for the 4.05 bug fix. So of course I ordered it. Next time you have > 90 minutes to spare waiting on hold, call and be persistent about the > no-charge change in policy. Worked for me. > Sharon Kenney > Tech. Com. Mgr. > First American Nationwide Documents > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Nov-1999 18:19:47-GMT,2979;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00124 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 11:19:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09399; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:09:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:07:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09266; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:07:53 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:10:39 -0600 Subject: Re: [PDF] GOOD NEWS re: Acrobat 4.05 From: "Rod \"The Rod\" Kabel" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991117180722.QYG1362.kx2@[216.81.156.34]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ sorry folks, I've been gone... what bug are the fixing? Rod ---------- >From: "Kenney, Sharon" >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: [PDF] GOOD NEWS re: Acrobat 4.05 >Date: Wed, Nov 17, 1999, 11:18 AM > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > I just spoke with a customer service rep at Adobe on another matter and > inquired about 4.05. Put in my 2 cents worth about charging for a bug fix > for a product I've owned only 60 days. When she called me back about my > original question, she said she had just found out that Adobe will NOT be > charging for the 4.05 bug fix. So of course I ordered it. Next time you have > 90 minutes to spare waiting on hold, call and be persistent about the > no-charge change in policy. Worked for me. > Sharon Kenney > Tech. Com. Mgr. > First American Nationwide Documents > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Nov-1999 18:51:00-GMT,2602;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01047 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 11:50:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12483; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:39:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:38:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA12334; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:38:21 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991117134515.009dca60@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 13:45:15 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] FYI> Acrobat & Reader 4.05 update In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19991117160301.007d8100@edinpophub> References: <4.2.2.19991117145305.00b10600@torpedo.qss.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >All and any opinions expressed by me in this list are my personal opinions >and I see no reason to change them. I do not have any authority, or indeed >any wish, to make statements on behalf of Macromedia in this list. I have >been using Acrobat and been a member of this list in an individual capacity >a lot longer than I've been in my present employment so, while its good for >a laugh, none of the above invalidates anything substantive that I had to say. > That's fair -- and fairer that what I admit was a cheap shot directed at the company and not at you personally, but delivered to you. Not fair. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Nov-1999 18:51:38-GMT,2305;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01073 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 11:51:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12419; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:39:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:36:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA12196; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:36:47 -0600 Message-Id: <199911171835.NAA09817@mx03.together.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 13:42:37 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] GOOD NEWS re: Acrobat 4.05 From: "Will Mitchell" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ yeah, that will be the day! Did you hear that boss? (Since there is no privacy in email I figured they might see that one) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Will Mitchell Reply to: mailto:Will@OffsetHouse.com The Offset House- http://www.OffsetHouse.com 89 Sand Hill Rd | PO Box 8929 | Essex VT 05451 ph 802-878-4440 | fx 802-879-4865 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ---------- >From: David >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: Re: [PDF] GOOD NEWS re: Acrobat 4.05 >Date: Thu, Feb 18, 1999, 1:03 PM > > Next time you have >> 90 minutes to spare waiting on hold ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Nov-1999 22:58:26-GMT,5128;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA08314 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:58:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA03913; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 16:45:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 16:43:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA03635; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 16:43:21 -0600 Message-id: Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 14:42:50 -0800 Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for November-17-99 [V2 #663] To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com From: trepsher@bakersfield.com (Tim Repsher) References: <199911171153.FAA05220@everglades.binc.net> In-Reply-To: <199911171153.FAA05220@everglades.binc.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ pdf@lists.pdfzone.com writes: >Hi you all! >Is there someone out there who knows (or have a clue..) how it works >with trapping and black overprint in this case: > >1. Quark 4.04 to postscript. Here we use the Distiller PPD (4.0) and >different objects in the layout has different trapping and overprint >preferences. is that print to file postscript or export postscript in Quark? >From working at a newspaper that sends hundreds of PDFs through rips for printing and from experiencing the same problem. I would recommend using a postcript PPD like for a linotronic or other postscript printer/image setter. It better handles files that are to be separated other PPDs make a good on screen preview but upon separation you could have white areas, text disappearing, knockouts where you have overprints, etc Export from Quark to an EPS file. worry about embedding your fonts with Distiller (font locations)- not using print to file in quark (if you are doing that) Also look into what level of poscript is supported by your RIP software. If it is pre -1998 it may be level 1- that would a be big suspect. Postscript three is better able to handle separting PDFs. and allows you to stay with acrobat 4 comaptability 3.0 did not handle overprints well in our experince on our rips Level one poscript does not support overprint and specific trapping in many Rip softwares coming from a PDF- we used onetime -Crackerjack to a level 1 postscript and got inconsistent results What are your advanced settings in Distiller? you said you have preserve overprint. Do you? in color, have leave color unchanged selected? in Advanced, do you have preserve level 2 copypage semantics slected? are your assumed profiles in Color set to coated stocks, newsprint or other color managements that your rip does not support? (I use Kodak for newsprint) make sure all art inside of your document is CMYK EPS. If you are on Mac make sure it is a binary eps (settings pop up in a dialog box upon saving in photoshop) our Rip can handle an ASCII eps but has sporatic fits with them, (dropping off letters, etc) go back to the basics of page layout. if you want overprint to work on text - fake it out by adding the background color values into the object you want to overprint. i.e. a 40%magenta filled box with black text. Add 40% magenta to 100% black and color your text that mix. this way when magenta is laid down on the press it will have no knockout in it and black will lay down on top. With high end printing 1200dpi-2400dpi_ we found Quark's ability, even with plug ins, inconsistant to handle PDFs for output. we went to a PDF workflow only by exporting from exchange and using a EPS from it and placing it on a Quark template (we use an OPI server for the hi/lo image swop) we only use EPSs and bitmapp tiffs in our documents. By selecting overprint in page layout and adding in the color of the background into our pverprint selections we no longer worry about incorrect overprints . We have to do this for a local print shop when we send them PDFs they loose the over print when they output. Also for a very high end web printer- they loose the over print We are waiting for a solid Poscript 3 version of our Rip software and full support of PDF from Quark. This is of course what works for our equipment. Hope this helps some. > > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Nov-1999 23:57:01-GMT,3205;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA09781 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 16:57:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA09071; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 17:45:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 17:43:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA08871; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 17:43:47 -0600 Message-ID: <001101bf3156$50c68840$7e4fd6d1@ferguson> From: "Jerry W. Ferguson" To: References: <36CC55F2.7C7166A9@tallent.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] GOOD NEWS re: Acrobat 4.05 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 18:48:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I just got off of the phone with Adobe...belie it or not, someone answered in @ 5 minutes! I told him I needed to get the 4.05 update and he told me to call back tomorrow! The "status" of the update is "up in the air". They are not taking any orders until the final decision NOT to charge us for this is made. He did say that we'll know more tomorrow. I still hope this is good news. Just thought I'd pass this on. Jerry Ferguson __________________________________________________________________ > > Yeah! > > Thanks for listening to the hours of crappy music while waiting to speak to > someone. > Man, my boss will be happy to hear about Adobe's new decision. > > Dave > ________________________________________________________________ > > > > I just spoke with a customer service rep at Adobe on another matter and > > inquired about 4.05. Put in my 2 cents worth about charging for a bug fix > > for a product I've owned only 60 days. When she called me back about my > > original question, she said she had just found out that Adobe will NOT be > > charging for the 4.05 bug fix. So of course I ordered it. Next time you have > > 90 minutes to spare waiting on hold, call and be persistent about the > > no-charge change in policy. Worked for me. > > Sharon Kenney > > Tech. Com. Mgr. > > First American Nationwide Documents > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Nov-1999 23:59:04-GMT,4010;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA09820 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 16:59:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA09343; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 17:49:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 17:47:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA09202; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 17:47:48 -0600 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:47:54 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Trapping and black overprint From: Rich Sprague To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <38315399.67F78CF9@rapidax.se> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id RAA09198 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > From: Micke Mirell > > Is there someone out there who knows (or have a clue..) how it works > with trapping and black overprint in this case: > > 1. Quark 4.04 to postscript. Here we use the Distiller PPD (4.0) and > different objects in the layout has different trapping and overprint > preferences. We have heard that, when printing composite from Quark, > these preferences does NOT get contained in the ps-file. But actually, > some does, and some doesn´t. HOW DOES THIS REALLY WORK? Quark trapping instructions are *generally* not retained when printing composite PS. The trapping instructions are included in separated PS. > 2. Then, we destill the ps-file with Acrobat 4.0 destiller, but with > Acrobat 3.0 compability. We enable "preserve overprint". This isn't going to do a thing for Quark files. > 3. Finally, we write from Acrobat with the Lantana "Crackerjack" > plug-in. The result on the imagesetter, is that some objects are ok, > some aren´t. For example, a black frame doesn´t overprint, while a black > filled box does...The RIP is supporting trapping-stuff, but can´t handle > object-specific issues..that makes it important to keep this info in the > ps-file from Quark. One of the bugs in Acrobat 4 has to deal with black overprinting. This should be fixed in Acrobat 4.05. This problem can't be fixed with Crackerjack or PitStop. > This bugs us very much, and it is the last step to actually make a > PDF-workflow reality in our environment, BUT if this doesn´t work, we´ll > have to cancel the whole PDF-idea... (well not really, but sometimes it > just feels so..). Try this again when you get your hands on Acrobat 4.05. Rich ================================================================ Rich Sprague, Contributing Editor Planet PDF rsprague@planetpdf.com http://www.planetpdf.com ================================================================ Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress PDF/Acrobat Consulting Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-5900 http://www.infomania.com ================================================================ ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Nov-1999 8:26:35-GMT,5047;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA20358 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 01:15:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA13132; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 02:04:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Nov 1999 02:00:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA12774; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 02:00:38 -0600 X-Sender: espresso@sage.e-scape.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 21:24:32 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Judyth Mermelstein Subject: [PDF] Complaining (was FYI: Acrobat & Reader...) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Duff Johnson writes, in part: >>That's not the point. The point is that we shouldn't be charged for a >>fix to errors which are Adobe's fault to start with. > >I really don't understand this point. "Adobe's fault," what is that? They >aren't under any specific obligation to sell highly sophisticated AND >totally bug-free and completely thought-out software up front, are they? >LOTS of compaines put less changes into whole "version" upgrades. [...] Since I have no intention of upgrading to 4.x in any case, let me look at this situation dispassionately for a moment. We have Adobe charging its customers for the privilege of getting what they pay for in the first place -- software they can use without experiencing difficulties caused by manufacturing defects in the product. We have dozens of loyal users of the product who object to this approach, the unhelpfulness of slow-moving "customer service" people (who, in the true spirit of big business in the '90s are probably not Adobe employees but inmates of some multi-purpose call-centre or U.S. correctional facility), and the delays inherent in waiting for a CD to be shipped once one has managed to place the order. On the other hand, we have the contention (following the practice of certain large software companies) that the manufacturer of Acrobat, unlike manufacturers in any other industry in the Western world, cannot be expected to ship non-defective software to its paying customers or to bear the full cost of remedying defects which should have been corrected before the product was shipped. It is my contention that even the software industry has a legal and moral responsibility to guarantee against manufacturing defects and hidden vices in a product. Automobile manufacturers had to learn through the courts that they could not simply push defective products out the door in their eagerness to get the customers' money, and hide the evidence that they knew their products were defective. In the wonderful world of software, the normal procedure for a new release is to make it available free for beta-testing, fix the bugs, THEN sell the productand, should some bugs not become apparent in beta-testing, to offer patches and service releases free to registered owners of the product in question. If a software manufacturer chooses not to follow the "best practices of the trade" and knowingly sells a product which will cause significant problems and which would have deterred a consumer from purchasing had he/she known the truth, the consumers in question not only have a right to bitch and complain but also to take that manufacturer to court, complain to the Software Manufacturer's Association, band together and file class action suits where these are available, and alert any relevant consumer organizations as well as potential buyers of the product. Even MICROSOFT knows better than to treat its customers this shabbily! Let's hope that Adobe will wake up and tell its salesmen and bean- counters next time that the shipping date will follow,not precede the de-bugging process. Regards, Judyth (not a lawyer but not an idiot, either!) &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& Judyth Mermelstein "cogito ergo lego ergo cogito..." Montreal, Quebec &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Nov-1999 9:30:57-GMT,6282;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA21641 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 02:30:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA18417; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 03:19:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Nov 1999 03:16:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA18164; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 03:16:09 -0600 Message-ID: <3833C41C.909724D@rapidax.se> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 10:17:19 +0100 From: Micke Mirell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for November-17-99 [V2 #663] References: <199911171153.FAA05220@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Tim Repsher wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > > is that print to file postscript or export postscript in Quark? We are printing to a composite ps-file, but we have tried XTensions like "Export as PDF" ("PDF-filter", or something like that) with the same result. > > > I would recommend using a postcript PPD like for a linotronic > or other postscript printer/image setter. It better handles files that > are to be separated We tried the PPD for Linotronic, but it doesn´t support composite color. Only the EPS-images (because they are "encapsulated") are preserving color info. These PPD´s are for separate printing from Quark...am I wrong? We want composite ps and PDF´s for screen viewing, especially for our customers to make soft-proof on screen. > > > other PPDs make a good on screen preview but upon separation you could > have white areas, > text disappearing, knockouts where you have overprints, etc tell me about it..:-) Really, everything is working out well. The only problems we have experienced are these with black overprints and trapping...but that´s not so "only"... > > > Export from Quark to an EPS file. We´ll try that as soon as possible. Are the black overprints preserved? Do we get a composite PDF? You don´t need to answer, we´ll see for ourselves, but for rest of the list it could be interesting. > > > worry about embedding your fonts with Distiller (font locations)- not > using print to file in quark (if you are doing that) OK > > Level one poscript does not support overprint and specific trapping in > many Rip softwares > coming from a PDF- we used onetime -Crackerjack to a level 1 postscript > and got inconsistent results What´s the level of postscript coming out from Cracker Jack, when NOT enabling the "postscript 3" checkbox? Hopefully it´s level 2, or? The RIP doesn´t support Postscript 3, but level 2. > > > What are your advanced settings in Distiller? > you said you have preserve overprint. > Do you? Yes > > in color, have leave color unchanged selected? yes > > in Advanced, do you have preserve level 2 copypage semantics selected? no, but that´s somthing I´ll enable after I have sent this mail away.. > > are your assumed profiles in Color > set to coated stocks, newsprint or other color managements that your rip > does not support? > (I use Kodak for newsprint) We have no profiles whatsoever, and the colors are ok, compared to the Quark to RIP workflow that once was. > > > make sure all art inside of your document is CMYK EPS. Is this because the PPD (Linotronic) doesn´t support composite colors, only if they are encapsulated? > > > if you want overprint to work on text - fake it out by adding the > background color values into the object you want to overprint. > i.e. a 40%magenta filled box with black text. Add 40% magenta to 100% > black and color your text that mix. > this way when magenta is laid down on the press it will have no knockout > in it and black will lay down on top. Well, this is not, for us, an approriate way of making black overprint...because we usually get the quark doc´s from our customers, and to start with coloring text in a 48 pages document is not a pleasant way of working..:-) But I´m sure it´ll work! Actually, black text do overprint for most of the time, and when it doesn´t, we shout at the press-operators to register better!! It´s always good to push the responsibility onto someone else.:-) > > We are waiting for a solid Poscript 3 version of our Rip software and full > support of PDF from Quark. Me too > > > This is of course what works for our equipment. > > Hope this helps some. Yes, we need try some of this, but we all have different workflows and need to make everything fit in, just in the actual environment. Thanks a lot for taking time to help us. That´s appriciated. Best regards, Micke Mirell Rapidax Repro AB, Stockholm Norrköpings Tidningar, Norrköping Tryck och Media, Linköping KTH, Stockholm ..all in the wonderful Sweden.... > > > > > > > > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Nov-1999 9:30:57-GMT,1980;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA21642 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 02:30:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA18445; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 03:19:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Nov 1999 03:17:02 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA18219; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 03:17:00 -0600 Message-ID: <354D0617766DD111A18C0000F8D02F7825E840@sungard-finance.fr> From: URIA Emmanuel To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Microsoft vs Adobe ? Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 10:18:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Does anyone have some information about the new Microsoft format, equivalent of PDF ? They announce that their reader will be ready for the beginning of 2000. Thanks for your reply. -- Emmanuel URIA Sungard Finance SAS 173, Bureaux de la colline Batiment E 92213 Saint Cloud Cedex FRANCE Phone : +33 (1) 49 11 31 46 Fax : +33 (1) 49 11 31 99 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Nov-1999 9:33:12-GMT,3687;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA21702 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 02:33:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA18975; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 03:23:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Nov 1999 03:20:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA18579; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 03:20:35 -0600 Message-ID: <3833C528.C47D14D0@rapidax.se> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 10:21:47 +0100 From: Micke Mirell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Trapping and black overprint References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Rich Sprague wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > > Quark trapping instructions are *generally* not retained when printing > composite PS. The trapping instructions are included in separated PS. Yees, we have come to that conclusion as well. But I´d like to know exactly what is preserved and what´s not. I called Quark in Denmark, and they didn´t even know the difference between composite and separated... > > > > 2. Then, we destill the ps-file with Acrobat 4.0 destiller, but with > > Acrobat 3.0 compability. We enable "preserve overprint". > > This isn't going to do a thing for Quark files. Obviously, not. If there´s no info to preserve, then... > > > One of the bugs in Acrobat 4 has to deal with black overprinting. This > should be fixed in Acrobat 4.05. This problem can't be fixed with > Crackerjack or PitStop. ok > > Try this again when you get your hands on Acrobat 4.05. Ok. Shopping time..:-) > > > Rich Thanks, Micke Mirell > > > ================================================================ > Rich Sprague, Contributing Editor Planet PDF > rsprague@planetpdf.com http://www.planetpdf.com > ================================================================ > Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress > PDF/Acrobat Consulting Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing > (916) 852-5900 http://www.infomania.com > ================================================================ > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Nov-1999 9:34:28-GMT,2111;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA21738 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 02:34:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA19325; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 03:25:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Nov 1999 03:23:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA18954; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 03:23:13 -0600 Message-ID: <218F91C3431ED311A22300104B6EE8E798BA@imtf_vi_nt03.Wien.Materna.DE> From: Petr Fexa To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: AW: [PDF] Microsoft vs Adobe ? Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 10:19:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ What??? An "equivalent" of PDF, produced by Microsoft? Is this true???? Oh Jesus. > Does anyone have some information about the new Microsoft format, > equivalent > of PDF ? > They announce that their reader will be ready for the beginning of 2000. > > Thanks for your reply. > > -- > Emmanuel URIA > Sungard Finance SAS > 173, Bureaux de la colline > Batiment E > 92213 Saint Cloud Cedex > FRANCE > > Phone : +33 (1) 49 11 31 46 > Fax : +33 (1) 49 11 31 99 > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Nov-1999 10:36:22-GMT,3130;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA22776 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 03:36:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA22810; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 04:13:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Nov 1999 04:10:02 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA22486; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 04:10:01 -0600 Message-ID: <354D0617766DD111A18C0000F8D02F7825E842@sungard-finance.fr> From: URIA Emmanuel To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Microsoft vs Adobe ? Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:11:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id EAA22482 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Yes, it's true I read this in a french newspaper, but it was just a little information. For this I research more information :-( Thanks > -----Message d'origine----- > De: Petr Fexa [SMTP:Petr.Fexa@Wien.Materna.de] > Date: jeudi 18 novembre 1999 10:20 > Ŕ: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Objet: AW: [PDF] Microsoft vs Adobe ? > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > What??? > > An "equivalent" of PDF, produced by Microsoft? > Is this true???? > > Oh Jesus. > > > > Does anyone have some information about the new Microsoft format, > > equivalent > > of PDF ? > > They announce that their reader will be ready for the beginning of 2000. > > > > > Thanks for your reply. > > > > -- > > Emmanuel URIA > > Sungard Finance SAS > > 173, Bureaux de la colline > > Batiment E > > 92213 Saint Cloud Cedex > > FRANCE > > > > Phone : +33 (1) 49 11 31 46 > > Fax : +33 (1) 49 11 31 99 > > > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving > the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Nov-1999 14:02:28-GMT,3534;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA26567 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 07:02:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA05884; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 07:44:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Nov 1999 07:39:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA05299; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 07:39:31 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <354D0617766DD111A18C0000F8D02F7825E840@sungard-finance.fr> References: <354D0617766DD111A18C0000F8D02F7825E840@sungard-finance.fr> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 08:43:04 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] Microsoft vs Adobe ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id HAA05295 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 10:18 AM +0100 11/18/99, URIA Emmanuel wrote: >Does anyone have some information about the new Microsoft format, equivalent >of PDF ? >They announce that their reader will be ready for the beginning of 2000. > I assume you are referring to Microsoft Reader () which is based on the Open eBook Initiative (). As such, it's a VERY different approach to document authoring and viewing and PDF. Open eBook is based on a combination of XML, HTML and CSS, where content is more important than presentation and the content is "malleable" to the feature/limitations of the output device. A BIG difference from the "final form presentation" design of PDF. As the name implies, Open eBook is an open spec designed by a number of vendors including software folks, hardware folks and book publishers. But, as Microsoft is want to do, they have "bastardized" this spec for use with "Reader" by adding features and functions (like annotations, security, purchasing) that aren't part of the spec and that will make these OPEN documents become CLOSED to a piece of software that ONLY runs on Wintel platforms. Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Nov-1999 15:59:29-GMT,4271;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA29353 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 08:59:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16726; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 09:42:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Nov 1999 09:39:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16387; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 09:39:56 -0600 Content-return: allowed Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 08:21:18 -0700 From: "Hagar, Laura M" Subject: RE: [PDF] Complaining (was FYI: Acrobat & Reader...) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: Jon Hagar , kaner@kaner.com Message-id: <955DBB91136BD311A9AE0000F8081F0301186AF7@emss02m02.ems.lmco.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Just wanted to make a recommendation to everyone that is unhappy with Adobe right now with regards to the way they have decided to release a bug-fix release of Acrobat 4.05 and charge for it. I can personally recommend Cem Kaner's book called BAD SOFTWARE (Wiley, 1998) (BTW. . . Cem is a laywer) http://www.kaner.com http://www.badsoftware.com This book is helpful to all of us who deal with software daily--and who doesn't these days. It has specific recommendations on our rights (sorry, U.S. rights) with regard to software manufacturers. >From the recent emails, it looks like Adobe is seriously reconsidering their position on the method of this last release. (squeaky wheel always gets the oil. . .) And, it is up to each of us to remain diligent as Judyth has pointed out, to force manufacturers to deliver defect free (as much as possible) products. As Chief Joseph once said, "we must endeavor to persevere." I won't even consider purchasing 4.05 until this is resolved. Thanks everyone. Laura Hagar, Webmaster Lockheed Martin Astronuatics > ---------- > From: Judyth Mermelstein[SMTP:espresso@e-scape.net] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 7:24 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Complaining (was FYI: Acrobat & Reader...) > > In the wonderful world of software, the normal procedure for a new > release is to make it available free for beta-testing, fix the bugs, > THEN sell the productand, should some bugs not become apparent in > beta-testing, to offer patches and service releases free to registered > owners of the product in question. > > If a software manufacturer chooses not to follow the "best practices > of the trade" and knowingly sells a product which will cause significant > problems and which would have deterred a consumer from purchasing had > he/she known the truth, the consumers in question not only have a right > to bitch and complain but also to take that manufacturer to court, > complain to the Software Manufacturer's Association, band together and > file class action suits where these are available, and alert any relevant > consumer organizations as well as potential buyers of the product. > > Even MICROSOFT knows better than to treat its customers this shabbily! > Let's hope that Adobe will wake up and tell its salesmen and bean- > counters next time that the shipping date will follow,not precede the > de-bugging process. > > Regards, > > Judyth (not a lawyer but not an idiot, either!) > > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Nov-1999 17:42:00-GMT,2082;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02348 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 10:41:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA26928; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:27:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:24:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26574; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:24:06 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19991118092413.00b19d94@burrard.fraserinstitute.ca> X-Sender: lindseym@burrard.fraserinstitute.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 09:24:14 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Lindsey Thomas Martin Subject: Re: [PDF] Microsoft vs Adobe ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 08:43 11/18/1999 -0500, Leonard wrote: > I assume you are referring to Microsoft Reader >() which is based on the Open eBook >Initiative (). As such, it's a VERY >different approach to document authoring and viewing and PDF. There is a critical article about OeBI at http://www.adobe.com/epaper/columns/deabrew/991115kd.html ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Nov-1999 17:58:26-GMT,2395;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02865 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 10:58:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA29001; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:48:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:47:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA28903; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:47:11 -0600 Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 09:52:13 -0800 Message-Id: <199911181752.JAA05463@aladdin.com> From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <3.0.32.19991118092413.00b19d94@burrard.fraserinstitute.ca> (message from Lindsey Thomas Martin on Thu, 18 Nov 1999 09:24:14 -0800) Subject: Re: [PDF] Microsoft vs Adobe ? References: <3.0.32.19991118092413.00b19d94@burrard.fraserinstitute.ca> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > There is a critical article about OeBI at > http://www.adobe.com/epaper/columns/deabrew/991115kd.html Unfortunately, that article reads like something of an Adobe puff piece. It mentions just one clear technical problem with OEB -- the lack of security provisions. I hope there'll be more balanced evaluations of OEB vs. PDF for us to read in the near future. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises ghost@aladdin.com | http://www.aladdin.com | 203 Santa Margarita Ave. +1-650-322-0103 (9-12 M-F) | fax +1-650-322-1734 | Menlo Park, CA 94025 Open Source is the future of software: http://www.opensource.org ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Nov-1999 18:47:37-GMT,2076;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04275 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:47:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01285; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:36:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:34:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA01062; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:34:44 -0600 Message-ID: <383445EE.784A38A8@vdiprinting.com> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:31:43 -0600 From: "Matthew L. Kelly" Organization: VisualDimensions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Microsoft vs Adobe ? References: <354D0617766DD111A18C0000F8D02F7825E840@sungard-finance.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ URIA Emmanuel wrote: > Does anyone have some information about the new Microsoft format, equivalent > of PDF ? > They announce that their reader will be ready for the beginning of 2000. I think it is actually going to be ready for the beginning of 1900. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Nov-1999 19:49:08-GMT,7609;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06067 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:49:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06870; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:33:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:32:05 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06693; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:32:04 -0600 Message-id: Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:31:42 -0800 Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for November-18-99 [V2 #664] To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com From: trepsher@bakersfield.com (Tim Repsher) References: <199911181339.HAA05318@everglades.binc.net> In-Reply-To: <199911181339.HAA05318@everglades.binc.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi,Micke > >..all in the wonderful Sweden.... not so bad in southern California either. >We are printing to a composite ps-file, but we have tried XTensions like >"Export >as PDF" ("PDF-filter", or something like that) with the same result. >We tried the PPD for Linotronic, but it doesnĄt support composite color. >Only the >EPS-images (because they are "encapsulated") are preserving color info. >These >PPDĄs are for separate printing from Quark...am I wrong? We want >composite ps and >PDFĄs for screen viewing, especially for our customers to make soft-proof >on >screen. Quark's PDF writer and filter is great for creating PDFs for posting or the Internet or simple email documents but it it gets confused on clipping paths it adds color to tiff picture boxes and the such. If I have a complex design it never is acceptable to use the PDF writer or export to PDF Select a PPD in your Print dialog box or chooser (if on a Mac) that handles color -for example the HP laserwriters -it must be able to print postscript as you well know. I have used ones from Hewlett packard HP colorlaserjet 8500 HP laserjet 755cm HP laserjet 4v Since we have a postscript laser printer from HP one phone call and I recieved lots of PPDs from them. Other printer companies do the same. When your document is ready in Quark. Under the "FILE" menu heading choose "Save page as EPS" In the dialog box that comes up nalme your file then select the format : Mac Color for use on a MAC or PC Color on a PC this will give you a composite preview of your EPS file. When I send digital proofs (soft proofs) I have the watched folders of Distiller4.0 on my desk top and I load the job option settings I have one for printing and 2 for on screen proofs. (one in ASCII for PC and one BINARY for MACS-gives an icon for the customer) I copy the EPS into the "In" folder and it churns out a 72 dpi digital proof to send to clients via email (they even use reader 4.0 to make annotaions of changes) I get consistent previews and printouts of my designs no matter how complex using this method and then when I am ready to print I load the Job Options I have for my Rips. I then open that PDF in Exchange and export I choose level one postscript there as it does not allow RGB to sneak through (if it is from a customer and they did not convert pantone colors or left a photo RGB). I then pass the resulting EPS to the output department they have a color composite preview for placing on the Quark page with the news stories ( we are a newspaper) and then they use Quark to print seperations. RIPS override trapping and overprint. it works well. Like I said before our Rips are at level 1 (that stinks right now) Level 2 handles things better on a RIP but I know if you export as level two from Acrobat Exchange it will confuse the colors as it reads RGB and CMYK and sometimes mis renders them. Level one postscript out of Exchange honors CMYK where black is always the overprint. > >WhatĄs the level of postscript coming out from Cracker Jack, when NOT >enabling >the "postscript 3" checkbox? Hopefully itĄs level 2, or? >The RIP doesnĄt support Postscript 3, but level 2. I don't know I have read (i am looking for the article) that Crackerjack will not handle PDFs cleanly for high end printing shops The RIP level 2 can handle Postscripts from page layout like Quark or exports of EPS from Acrobat Exchange for printing but will not handle PDFs well. Postscript 3 will but so far there is not a great transition to postscript 3 Quark 4.0 whatever version is promised to be a clean PDF printer but the RIP has to be level 3 > > > >> make sure all art inside of your document is CMYK EPS. > >Is this because the PPD (Linotronic) doesnĄt support composite colors, >only if >they are encapsulated? I really have not heard the exact reason why I do know that the RIP we use can handle tiffs and can handle JPEGS BUT not consistantly. We send too many files out for imaging to film and when the RIP is chewing on a large file and then prints, it goes right to the next file in the que. That next file could have 4 different versions of fonts 12 different families of fonts and 12 pictures. It will mess up 1 in 5 files it seems if there is color tiffs or JPEG in it. EPS is the only format I can get to go through consistant. If your Linotronic PPD does not give youthe option when exporting from Quark to choose a Mac Color or PC color you will need to choose another PPD that will -Do not have Generic or General Color PPD ? that will work as well. > > >Well, this is not, for us, an approriate way of making black >overprint...because >we usually get the quark docĄs from our customers, and to start with >coloring >text in a 48 pages document is not a pleasant way of working..:-) But IĄm >sure >itĄll work! Actually, black text do overprint for most of the time, and >when it >doesnĄt, we shout at the press-operators to register better!! ItĄs >always good >to push the responsibility onto someone else.:-) beating up press guys is a pleasant pasttime here as well. I agree it is impossible to fix files once they enter your door. for the last 2 years I have been doing little road trips to offer free training on how to build clean documnets and doing PDF documents on how to prepare files and emailing them to advertisers I layout how to build a file and correctly trap so they build the file (hopefully) correct in the first place- It has worked wonderful-but it took some time. I am going tomorrow to Los Angeles to do the same thing with a customer 2 hours of my time saves hours donwn the road. this kind of stuff they don't teach in manuals or in schools I think a printer and Prepress person is the best teacher of desktop publishing setups. and from what you have wrote about you have seen it all. > > Tim > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Nov-1999 19:50:26-GMT,3700;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06122 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:50:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01461; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:38:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:37:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA01372; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 12:37:27 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199911181752.JAA05463@aladdin.com> References: <3.0.32.19991118092413.00b19d94@burrard.fraserinstitute.ca> <199911181752.JAA05463@aladdin.com> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:40:35 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] Microsoft vs Adobe ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA01368 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 9:52 AM -0800 11/18/99, L. Peter Deutsch wrote: >I hope there'll be more balanced evaluations of OEB vs. PDF for us to read >in the near future. > Forgetting all the other (IMHO) differences between the two, the real issue with OEB vs. PDF is that PDF is a "final form" document format, while OEB is a data-centric (limited formatting) format. The OEB group choose (as I understand it) to avoid PDF for their needs because they wanted something that would work on any device, regardless of screen size, resolution, etc. Between the eBook hardware folks, and Microsoft (with WinCE and WebTV) this was probably the #1 requirement of the spec. The OEB format (currently) has some advantages in terms of accessibility and such, since the actual data is present in a way that it easy to extract and work with in other ways (eg. text->speech) - however, if more people start building structure into their PDF docs PDF can move in this direction as well. I also hope that Adobe will provide more direction and "standards" in this area in terms of what to put into structure (say an XML DTD??). Also, since OEB is XML/HTML/CSS there are more tools out there (on more platforms) for authoring, viewing and modifying them. And it would be pretty easy to write an OEB->PDF converter, though the other way would NOT. Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Nov-1999 22:41:19-GMT,2567;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10644 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:41:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26270; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:33:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:32:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA26066; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:32:00 -0600 Message-ID: Message-ID: From: Salina Chan To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] pdf image from Photoshop Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:34:50 +1300 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi All Just wondering if you have to create a Photoshop pdf of an artwork you have got in Photoshop for printing (press), will it be saved as cmyk pdf or rgb pdf, say if you have been using cmyk colour code in Photoshop? I am really puzzled whether there is any difference at all in creating a Photoshop pdf compared to creating a pdf from Distiller if all you have to begin with is say a 300 dpi tiff to go to print... Thanks in advance Salina Chan Beca Carter NOTICE - This e-mail is only intended to be read by the named recipient. It may contain information which is confidential, proprietary or the subject of legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. You may not use any information contained in it. Legal privilege is not waived because you have read this e-mail. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Nov-1999 23:31:09-GMT,7837;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11873 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:31:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA31123; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:22:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:21:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA30958; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:21:29 -0600 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991118151502.031042d0@mail-321.corp.adobe.com> X-Sender: srosenba@mail-321.corp.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:21:07 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Sarah Rosenbaum Subject: [PDF] RE: Acrobat & Reader 4.05 update In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19991117134515.009dca60@pop.iglou.com> References: <3.0.6.32.19991117160301.007d8100@edinpophub> <4.2.2.19991117145305.00b10600@torpedo.qss.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_26457488==_.ALT" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ --=====================_26457488==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for your feedback. Please read on. Sarah Rosenbaum Adobe Systems Incorporated --------------------------------------------------------------------- Adobe Systems Incorporated will offer a maintenance update to its popular=20 Adobe=AE Acrobat=AE software to registered users at no additional charge.= All=20 registered Acrobat 4.0 users will receive the Acrobat 4.05 CD. In North=20 America, the Acrobat 4.05 CD will begin shipping December 1st, 1999, and=20 customers should receive the CD within four to six weeks. For international= =20 customers, the update will begin shipping in mid-January, 2000, and=20 customers should receive the CD within four to six weeks. Since Adobe will= =20 be automatically distributing Acrobat 4.05 to all registered users, those=20 who haven=92t already registered their product should do so at=20 http://cgi1.adobe.com/WebObjects/WEC?pageID=3DRegMp1. Customers in North America who have already ordered their update will not=20 be charged and will receive an Acrobat 4.05 CD within four to six weeks of= =20 availability. In North America, immediate requests can still be fulfilled=20 via Adobe=92s tollfree number 800/272-3623 for a rush production charge of= =20 $14.95 plus shipping and handling. Internetional rush requests should be=20 placed through Adobe support providers beginning January 3, 2000. For a=20 complete list of Adobe support providers please visit=20 www.adobe.com/support/intlsupport.html. In addition to providing the maintenance fixes, Acrobat 4.05 includes a new= =20 feature called Web Buy that enables users to download and read eBooks.=20 Adobe will make available several classic books for electronic download=20 using the new Acrobat Reader. Customers can choose from among more than 20= =20 books located at the Adobe.com website including =93A Christmas Carol=94 by= =20 Charles Dickens; =93A Modest Proposal=94 by Jonathan Swift; =93Alice=92s= Adventures=20 in Wonderland=94 by Lewis Carroll; =93Frankenstein=94 by Mary Shelley;=20 =93Gulliver=92s Travels=94 by Jonathan Swift; and =93Hamlet=94 by William=20 Shakespeare, and many more. Adobe ePaper=AE Solutions are an integrated set of applications and=20 technologies that allow users to capture, collaborate and distribute=20 information with unmatched fidelity and reliability. The ePaper Solutions=20 product family is built around Adobe Acrobat software and provides=20 essential building blocks for intelligent integration of paper and digital= =20 workflows. Adobe and its partners are developing new applications that help= =20 many businesses increase efficiency and profitability by better=20 understanding the strategic value of integrating paper and the Web. --=====================_26457488==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for your feedback. Please read on.
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Adobe Systems Incorporated will offer a maintenance update to its popular Adobe=AE Acrobat=AE software to registered users at no additional charge. Al= l registered Acrobat 4.0 users will receive the Acrobat 4.05 CD. In North America, the Acrobat 4.05 CD will begin shipping December 1st, 1999, and customers should receive the CD within four to six weeks. For international customers, the update will begin shipping in mid-January, 2000, and customers should receive the CD within four to six weeks. Since Adobe will be automatically distributing Acrobat 4.05 to all registered users, those who haven=92t already registered their product should do so at http://cgi1.adobe.com/WebObjects/WEC?pageID=3DRegMp1.

Customers in North America who have already ordered their update will not be charged and will receive an Acrobat 4.05 CD within four to six weeks of availability. In North America, immediate requests can still be fulfilled via Adobe=92s tollfree number 800/272-3623 for a rush production charge of $14.95 plus shipping and handling. Internetional rush requests should be placed through Adobe support providers beginning January 3, 2000. For a complete list of Adobe support providers please visit www.adobe.com/support/intlsupport.html.=

In addition to providing the maintenance fixes, Acrobat 4.05 includes a new feature called Web Buy that enables users to download and read eBooks. Adobe will make available several classic books for electronic download using the new Acrobat Reader. Customers can choose from among more than 20 books located at the Adobe.com website including =93A Christmas Carol=94 by Charles Dickens; =93A Modest Proposal=94 by Jonathan Swift; =93Alice=92s Adventures in Wonderland=94 by Lewis Carroll; =93Frankenstein=94 by Mary Shelley; =93Gulliver=92s Travels=94 by Jonathan S= wift; and =93Hamlet=94 by William Shakespeare, and many more.

Adobe ePaper=AE Solutions are an integrated set of applications and technologies that allow users to capture, collaborate and distribute information with unmatched fidelity and reliability. The ePaper Solutions product family is built around Adobe Acrobat software and provides essential building blocks for intelligent integration of paper and digital workflows. Adobe and its partners are developing new applications that help many businesses increase efficiency and profitability by better understanding the strategic value of integrating paper and the Web.
--=====================_26457488==_.ALT-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Nov-1999 23:31:09-GMT,2391;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11872 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:31:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA31122; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:22:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:21:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA30861; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:21:01 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: kfoss@mail.roundtable.com.au Message-Id: Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:26:24 -0600 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] *HOT* - Adobe: 'Acrobat 4.05 update is now free' Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ ____________ NEWS FLASH ____________ Reconsidering its initial decision to make the version 4.05 maintenance update to its Acrobat software available only on CD-ROM at a cost of $14.95, Adobe Systems has just announced that the update will be now free for registered users (Mac and Windows). Those who have already placed orders will not be charged, according to Adobe. Further details at Planet PDF: http://www.planetpdf.com/mainpage.asp?WebPageID=500 rgds ~ Kurt ________________ Planet PDF: A World of PDF Resources ________________ Kurt Foss | Editor | http://www.planetpdf.com/ | mailto:kfoss@planetpdf.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- => READ "In Orbit" http://www.planetpdf.com/mainpage.asp?WebPageID=489 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18-Nov-1999 23:34:46-GMT,6946;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11962 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:34:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA31552; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:26:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:25:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA31385; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:25:09 -0600 Message-id: Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:24:45 -0800 Subject: [PDF] pdf overprint To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com From: trepsher@bakersfield.com (Tim Repsher) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi,Micke >> >>..all in the wonderful Sweden.... not so bad in southern California either. Quark's PDF writer and filter is great for creating PDFs for posting or the Internet or simple email documents but it it gets confused on clipping paths it adds color to tiff picture boxes and the such. If I have a complex design it never is acceptable to use the PDF writer or export to PDF Select a PPD in your Print dialog box or chooser (if on a Mac) that handles color for example the HP laserwriters -it must be able to print postscript as you well know. I have used ones from Hewlett packard HP colorlaserjet 8500 HP laserjet 755cm HP laserjet 4v Since we have a postscript laser printer from HP one phone call and I recieved lots of PPDs from them. Other printer companies do the same. When your document is ready in Quark. Under the "FILE" menu heading choose "Save page as EPS" In the dialog box that comes up nalme your file then select the format : Mac Color for use on a MAC or PC Color on a PC this will give you a composite preview of your EPS file. When I send digital proofs (soft proofs) I have the watched folders of Distiller4.0 on my desk top and I load the job option settings I have one for printing and 2 for on screen proofs. (one in ASCII for PC and one BINARY for MACS- gives an icon for the customer) I copy the EPS into the "In" folder and it churns out a 72 dpi digital proof to send to clients via email (they even use reader 4.0 to make annotaions of changes) I get consistent previews and printouts of my designs no matter how complex using this method and then when I am ready to print I load the Job Options I have for my Rips. I then open that PDF in Exchange and export I choose level one postscript there as it does not allow RGB to sneak through (if it is from a customer and they did not convert pantone colors or left a photo RGB). I then pass the resulting EPS to the output department they have a color composite preview for placing on the Quark page with the news stories ( we are a newspaper) and then they use Quark to print seperations. RIPS override trapping and overprint. it works well. Like I said before our Rips are at level 1 (that stinks right now) Level 2 handles things better on a RIP but I know if you export as level two from Acrobat Exchange it will confuse the colors as it reads RGB and CMYK and sometimes mis renders them. Level one postscript out of Exchange honors CMYK where black is always the overprint. >What is >the level of postscript coming out > from Cracker Jack ? I don't know I have read (i am looking for the article) that Crackerjack will not handle PDFs cleanly for high end printing sho= ps The RIP level 2 can handle Postscripts from page layout like Quark or exports of EPS from Acrobat Exchange for printing but will not handle PDFs well. Postscript 3 will but so far there is not a great transition to postscript 3 Quark 4.0 whatever version is promised to be a clean PDF printer but the RIP has to be level 3 >> >> >> >>> make sure all art inside of your document is >CMYK EPS. >> >>Is this because the PPD (Linotronic) doesn t >support composite color s, >>only if >>they are encapsulated? I really have not heard the exact reason why I do know that the RIP we use can handle tiffs and can handle JPEGS BUT not consistantly. We send too many files out for imaging to film a nd when the RIP is chewing on a large file and then prints, it goes right to the next file in the que. That next file could have 4 different versions of fonts 12 different families of fonts and 12 pictures. It will mess up 1 in 5 files it seems if there is color tiffs or JPEG in it. EPS is the only format I can get to go through consistant. If your Linotronic PPD does not give youthe option when exporting from Quark to choose a Mac Color or PC color you will need to choose another PPD that will - Do not have Generic or General Color PPD ? that will work as well. >> >> >>Well, this is not, for us, an approriate >way of making black >>overprint...because >>we usually get the quark doc=A5s from our >customers, and to start with= >>coloring >>text in a 48 pages document is not a pleasant >way of working..:-) But = I=A5m >>sure >>it=A5ll work! Actually, black text do overprint > for most of the time, = and >>when it >>doesn=A5t, we shout at the press-operators >to register better!! It=A5= s >>always good >>to push the responsibility onto someone >else.:-) beating up press guys is a pleasant pasttime here as well. I agree it is impossible to fix files once they enter your door. for the last 2 years I have been doing little road trips to offer free training on how to build clean documnets and doing PDF documents on how to prepare files and emailing them to advertisers I layout how to build a file and correctly trap so they build the file (hopefully) correct in the first place- It has worked wonderful-but it took some time. I am going tomorrow to Los Angeles to do the same thing with a customer= 2 hours of my time saves hours donwn the road. this kind of stuff they don't teach in manuals or in schools I think a printer and Prepress person is the best teacher of desktop publishing setups. and from what you have wrote about you have seen it all. Tim ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Nov-1999 0:14:48-GMT,3004;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA12999 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:14:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA01962; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 18:00:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:59:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA01810; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:59:34 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf image from Photoshop Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 23:59:30 -0000 Message-ID: <009d01bf3220$f3fab7a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Just wondering if you have to create a Photoshop pdf of an > artwork you have > got in Photoshop for printing (press), will it be saved as > cmyk pdf or rgb > pdf, say if you have been using cmyk colour code in > Photoshop? I am really > puzzled whether there is any difference at all in creating a > Photoshop pdf > compared to creating a pdf from Distiller if all you have to > begin with is > say a 300 dpi tiff to go to print... A PDF file isn't in general RGB or CMYK, but a mixture of elements, each of which can be either (or up to 7 other, different, colour spaces). However, when you export from Photoshop the PDF will only contain one thing - an image following the original mode (e.g. CMYK, RGB). If you really have a Photoshop file ready to go to press unaltered, PDF export and Distiller are equally good. I'd expect that in almost every real case there will be a need to add text, and presumably not in Photoshop for obvious reasons(?). Hence, a more typical workflow involves QuarkXPress, PageMaker, Freehand, Illustrator or similar to assemble one (or more) Photoshop images together with some text. In this case Distiller is the way to go. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Nov-1999 0:17:53-GMT,2338;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA13063 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:17:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA01632; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:57:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:56:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA01529; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 17:56:36 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19991118151502.031042d0@mail-321.corp.adobe.com> References: <3.0.5.32.19991117134515.009dca60@pop.iglou.com> <3.0.6.32.19991117160301.007d8100@edinpophub> <4.2.2.19991117145305.00b10600@torpedo.qss.co.uk> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 19:07:50 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: DaleH Subject: Re: [PDF] RE: Acrobat & Reader 4.05 update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id RAA01525 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Adobe Systems Incorporated will offer a maintenance update to its popular Adobe® Acrobat® software to registered users at no additional charge. Does that include the plugins for the Mac version of Acrobat 4.05 or do we need to download them separately? Why would Adobe offer two versions of the upgrade CD - one with plugins and one without - in the first place? and why would there be a $10 difference in price? 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References: <3.0.5.32.19991117134515.009dca60@pop.iglou.com> <3.0.6.32.19991117160301.007d8100@edinpophub> <4.2.2.19991117145305.00b10600@torpedo.qss.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ How Do I get off this Mailing list? DaleH wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Adobe Systems Incorporated will offer a maintenance > update to its popular Adobe® Acrobat® software to registered > users at no additional charge. > > Does that include the plugins for the Mac version of Acrobat 4.05 or do we > need to download them separately? Why would Adobe offer two versions of the > upgrade CD - one with plugins and one without - in the first place? and why > would there be a $10 difference in price? > > Dale H. > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Nov-1999 4:37:57-GMT,4089;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA18681 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:37:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA22140; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 22:23:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 18 Nov 1999 22:20:47 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA21868; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 22:20:40 -0600 Message-ID: <19991119042035.5467.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:20:35 -0800 (PST) From: John Berg Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf image from Photoshop To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ --- Aandi Inston wrote: > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > > Just wondering if you have to create a Photoshop > pdf of an > > artwork you have > > got in Photoshop for printing (press), will it be > saved as > > cmyk pdf or rgb > > pdf, say if you have been using cmyk colour code > in > > Photoshop? I am really > > puzzled whether there is any difference at all in > creating a > > Photoshop pdf > > compared to creating a pdf from Distiller if all > you have to > > begin with is > > say a 300 dpi tiff to go to print... > > A PDF file isn't in general RGB or CMYK, but a > mixture of elements, > each of which can be either (or up to 7 other, > different, colour > spaces). > > However, when you export from Photoshop the PDF will > only contain > one thing - an image following the original mode > (e.g. CMYK, RGB). > > If you really have a Photoshop file ready to go to > press > unaltered, PDF export and Distiller are equally > good. I'd expect > that in almost every real case there will be a need > to add text, > and presumably not in Photoshop for obvious > reasons(?). > > Hence, a more typical workflow involves QuarkXPress, > PageMaker, > Freehand, Illustrator or similar to assemble one (or > more) > Photoshop images together with some text. In this > case Distiller > is the way to go. > > Aandi I have experienced a great degree of color difference when creating a.pdf from within Photoshop (save as Photoshop .pdf) as compared to saving the image as an .eps and letting Distiller do the job. Distiller is always superior when dealing with a graphics rich document. Your success will be determined in how you have your Distiller job options configured. As they come out of the box (printoptimized, pressoptimized, screenoptimized), they are average at best. Tweak the compression selections to match the content and destination use of your current job. JB > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ > * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas > offers tips on improving the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Nov-1999 11:18:22-GMT,1846;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA26442 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 04:18:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA17910; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 05:03:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 05:01:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA17722; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 05:01:27 -0600 Message-Id: <38352E05.FC08FE8E@hort.cri.nz> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 00:01:31 +1300 From: Tim Hembrow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Where is Distiller 302 update for PC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Sorry to trouble the group, but no one at Abobe will answer! Does any one know where I can get a PC Distiller 30x --> 302 updater from. Many thanks Tim Hembrow ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Nov-1999 11:41:33-GMT,2641;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA26648 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 04:30:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA18999; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 05:18:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 05:17:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA18941; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 05:17:15 -0600 Message-ID: <4FFB2DC0BF24D311906100C00D00CC98DEFA@LAZYSV04> From: David Farbey To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Where is Distiller 302 update for PC Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:18:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Try this URL: http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/acdwin.htm David Farbey Technical Writer Lazy Software Ltd david.farbey@lazysoft.com -----Original Message----- From: Tim Hembrow [mailto:thembrow@hort.cri.nz] Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 11:02 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Where is Distiller 302 update for PC The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Sorry to trouble the group, but no one at Abobe will answer! Does any one know where I can get a PC Distiller 30x --> 302 updater from. Many thanks Tim Hembrow ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Nov-1999 12:42:56-GMT,2107;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA27854 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 05:42:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA24634; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 06:33:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 06:31:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA24441; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 06:31:42 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Message-Id: Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 07:42:30 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: DaleH Subject: Re: [PDF] RE: Acrobat & Reader 4.05 update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id GAA24437 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Adobe Systems Incorporated will offer a maintenance update to its popular Adobe® Acrobat® software to registered users at no additional charge. Does that include the plugins for the Mac version of Acrobat 4.05 or do we need to download them separately? Why would Adobe offer two versions of the upgrade CD - one with plugins and one without - in the first place? and why would there be a $10 difference in price? Dale H. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Nov-1999 12:59:44-GMT,3041;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA28162 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 05:59:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA25339; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 06:42:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 06:40:47 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA25185; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 06:40:43 -0600 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 04:40:50 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] RE: Acrobat & Reader 4.05 update From: Rich Sprague To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id GAA25181 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > From: DaleH > > Adobe Systems Incorporated will offer a maintenance > update to its popular Adobe® Acrobat® software to registered > users at no additional charge. > > Does that include the plugins for the Mac version of Acrobat 4.05 or do we > need to download them separately? Why would Adobe offer two versions of the > upgrade CD - one with plugins and one without - in the first place? and why > would there be a $10 difference in price? > I believe the CD has the complete version of Acrobat 4.05. Last time I looked the plug-ins were available for download from Adobe's web site. If you're using Acrobat 4, I'd strongly advise ordering the upgrade/fixes to 4.05. Rich ================================================================ Rich Sprague, Contributing Editor Planet PDF rsprague@planetpdf.com http://www.planetpdf.com ================================================================ Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress PDF/Acrobat Consulting Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-5900 http://www.infomania.com ================================================================ ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Nov-1999 13:02:28-GMT,1979;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA28231 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 06:02:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA25607; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 06:44:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 06:43:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA25448; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 06:43:04 -0600 From: "Darryl Lucas (Solvera, Handforth, UK)" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] GOOD NEWS re: Acrobat 4.05 Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:42:21 -0000 Message-ID: <000801bf328b$8c56b980$ab7175c1@win95> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Ok guys, So Acrobat 4.0 to 4.05 is classified as a bug fix. Why can't we download a patch from Adobe's web site as we can for Distiller? Strange isn't it Darryl Lucas ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Nov-1999 13:32:11-GMT,4095;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA28814 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 06:32:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA28583; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 07:20:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 07:18:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA28423; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 07:18:39 -0600 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 05:18:44 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] GOOD NEWS re: Acrobat 4.05 From: Rich Sprague To: , , , , , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000801bf328b$8c56b980$ab7175c1@win95> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > From: "Darryl Lucas (Solvera, Handforth, UK)" > So Acrobat 4.0 to 4.05 is classified as a bug fix. Why can't we download a > patch from Adobe's web site as we can for Distiller? It ain't a patch. It's a full, re-worked package. Only those of us with T-1 lines could handle the download effectively. We figure it would take about 12 minutes for us. Here's a thought for Adobe's marketing/distribution team. Set up a distribution channel for all service providers wherein we can place a priority order on-line for immediate shipment for these type of fixes/upgrades. I'd gladly pay a rush fee, and the shipping and handling charge. What does this do for us/everyone? As a service provider, Acrobat 4 has bugs that really affect our ability to produce quality and reliable PDFs. Having the latest version, first, would ensure our ability to maintain the highest level of integrity in the PDFs we make for our workflow. Second, since a valid 4.0 serial number will allow the installation of the product, we could offer the upgrade to any of our customers who have a valid serial number, thus providing the customer another service (this also provides a service to Adobe). I'd gladly pop for the buck + to make a CD for customers. If they don't have a 4.x serial number, they simply won't be able to install it. Of course, I would need to be able to sell the 4.0 upgrades to customers, which I can't under the current distribution scheme, even though we are a qualified reseller of products. These are just some ideas to loosen the clog in the distribution pipeline, which now has a logjam of several weeks (which can seem to be a lifetime). Rich ================================================================ Rich Sprague, Contributing Editor Planet PDF rsprague@planetpdf.com http://www.planetpdf.com ================================================================ Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress PDF/Acrobat Consulting Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-5900 http://www.infomania.com ================================================================ ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Nov-1999 14:13:28-GMT,3769;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29643 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 07:13:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA32374; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 08:01:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 07:54:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA31663; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 07:54:41 -0600 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 05:54:49 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Converting Freehand 8 files to PDF. From: Rich Sprague To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id HAA31659 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > From: Art Department >> > Acrobat 3.1 file.> > > I use FreeHand all the time and have no trouble making a PDF in Acrobat 3 > (or 4) if I first convert text to paths. I then export the file as an EPS > (but don't save changes to your original!!!!) and run the EPS through > Distiller, checking it in Acrobat. This is sort of a clunky way of making a PDF. The tried and true method is to print a PS file, then Distill it. Also, I think one will get better definition of small point sizes by allowing the font to be rasterized in the PS/PDF/RIP. Files with the original fonts will definitely look better on screen. Now if the font you are using can't be embedded, then the conversion to paths method might be required. I wouldn't recommend using the Export as PDF method in Freehand 8, either. I tried it the other day, and it wouldn't allow me to include the bleeds. Also, the file sizes were 3-4 times as large as PDFs distilled with Distiller 4.05. > Unless the recipient needs to make changes to the PDF, I'd not worry about > embedding fonts. Just convert all the text to paths. You'll have to unlink > text to do this. > > I wouldn't use PDF Writer. From my research, it's not a good thing. The PDFWriter was made to process simple word processing docs. Adobe never intended it to be used in a Printing workflow. Rich ================================================================ Rich Sprague, Contributing Editor Planet PDF rsprague@planetpdf.com http://www.planetpdf.com ================================================================ Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress PDF/Acrobat Consulting Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing (916) 852-5900 http://www.infomania.com ================================================================ ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Nov-1999 16:44:09-GMT,4826;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA03423 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:44:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA14910; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:34:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:29:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA14279; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:29:09 -0600 Message-ID: <38357A87.AC1AF1EF@bnin.net> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:27:52 -0500 From: radcoin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] RE: Acrobat & Reader 4.05 update References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------CCCA33C408ED464152C93A92" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ --------------CCCA33C408ED464152C93A92 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Rich Sprague wrote: > If you're using Acrobat 4, I'd strongly advise ordering the upgrade/fixes to > 4.05. Adobe will be automatically distributing Acrobat 4.05 to all registered users beginning December 1st, 1999, and customers should receive the CD within four to six weeks. For international customers, the update will begin shipping in mid-January, 2000, and customers should receive the CD within four to six weeks. ONLY if you need a "rush" order for the update should you call Adobe and order. In North America, immediate requests will be fulfilled for a rush production charge of $14.95 plus shipping and handling. International rush requests should be placed through Adobe support providers beginning January 3, 2000. In addition to providing the maintenance fixes, Acrobat 4.05 includes a new feature called Web Buy that enables users to download and read eBooks. Adobe will make available several classic books for electronic download using the new Acrobat Reader. Customers can choose from among more than 20 books located at the Adobe.com website including “A Christmas Carol” by Charles Dickens; “A Modest Proposal” by Jonathan Swift; “Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland” by Lewis Carroll; “Frankenstein” by Mary Shelley; “Gulliver’s Travels” by Jonathan Swift; and “Hamlet” by William Shakespeare, and many more. <> Dennis --------------CCCA33C408ED464152C93A92 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Rich Sprague wrote:
If you're using Acrobat 4, I'd strongly advise ordering the upgrade/fixes to
4.05.
Adobe will be automatically distributing Acrobat 4.05 to all registered users beginning December 1st, 1999, and customers should receive the CD within four to six weeks. For international customers, the update will begin shipping in mid-January, 2000, and customers should receive the CD within four to six weeks.

ONLY if you need a "rush" order for the update should you call Adobe and order. In North America, immediate requests will be fulfilled for a rush production charge of $14.95 plus shipping and handling. International rush requests should be placed through Adobe support providers beginning January 3, 2000.

In addition to providing the maintenance fixes, Acrobat 4.05 includes a new feature called Web Buy that enables users to download and read eBooks. Adobe will make available several classic books for electronic download using the new Acrobat Reader. Customers can choose from among more than 20 books located at the Adobe.com website including “A Christmas Carol” by Charles Dickens; “A Modest Proposal” by Jonathan Swift; “Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland” by Lewis Carroll; “Frankenstein” by Mary Shelley; “Gulliver’s Travels” by Jonathan Swift; and “Hamlet” by William Shakespeare, and many more.

<<Woop-d-do>>
Dennis --------------CCCA33C408ED464152C93A92-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Nov-1999 16:50:48-GMT,1924;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA03639 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:50:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA15796; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:40:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:38:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA15442; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:38:09 -0600 Message-id: Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 08:37:48 -0800 Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for November-19-99 [V2 #665] X-FC-Icon-ID: 2032 X-FC-MachineGenerated: true To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: trepsher@bakersfield.com (Tim Repsher) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I will be out of the office this Friday and I will be on vacation from Nov 21 to Dec 2. If you have questions please call Alan Ferguson - Prepress manager at 706-5501 or Cathy Grant - Prepress supervisor at 395-7233. Happy Thanksgiving Tim ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Nov-1999 17:27:59-GMT,2479;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04666 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:27:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21045; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:17:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:14:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA20630; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:14:40 -0600 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.2.19991119091028.00c3a320@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:12:39 -0800 To: Tim Hembrow From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Where is Distiller 302 update for PC Cc: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" In-Reply-To: <38352E05.FC08FE8E@hort.cri.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Tim, Why don't you try the Adobe web site at: Except for a few days a month ago, that updater has been there continuously. By the way, who at Adobe wouldn't answer your question - tech support? Please advise so that we can make sure that our staff serves you better. - Dov At 11/19/99 03:01 AM , Tim Hembrow wrote: >Sorry to trouble the group, but no one at Abobe will answer! > >Does any one know where I can get a PC Distiller 30x --> 302 updater from. > >Many thanks > >Tim Hembrow ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Nov-1999 18:14:24-GMT,2421;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06112 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:14:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25501; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:56:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:51:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24957; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:51:39 -0600 X-Sender: castidata@mail.compusmart.ab.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:52:16 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kevin Chu Subject: [PDF] Pdf, IE and ASF on the web. In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <19991119175153Z27529-256+21554@mail.compusmart.ab.ca> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I asked this list earlier about opening movie files from the pdf on the web. I ran into the problem of having to use a url to link the movies which caused me to lose my pdf in my broweser. To overcome this problem we are using ASF files for the movies, which will open media player and leave the pdf intact in your browser. However now I ran into a new problem which occurs. When the movie/animation ends my IE displays the pdf but it is not accessible (looks like it the plug-in crashed) I have to hit reload or back to return to my PDF. Has anyone ran into this problem? I am totally stumped on why this is happening or what to do. Thanks, Kevin Chu ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Nov-1999 18:22:19-GMT,2419;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06321 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:22:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27502; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:13:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:12:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27350; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:12:12 -0600 Message-ID: <7F94B321EA68D21185B20060977260C302980B@NTSERVER1> From: Neil Swallow To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Strange Res Problems Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:33:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am having some problems when creating PDF files on our Unix box. Our basic workflow is as follows. * Print files from Quark 4.04 using AdobePS printer * Files are taken into the server where OPI is done * Postscript file is moved to a watched folder. * Distiller 3 creates the PDF If the above is done to an A3 page at 2000 resolution the result is fine but if the resolution is changed to 2400, bits of the PDF are missing. The bits missing are all down both edges of the PDF and it seems that it chops the text off down an imaginary line and any images which fall entirely outside that line. Images which start within the line are included. If an A4 is printed at 2400 res it is fine and if an A3 is printed at 2200 the incorrect file is not as bad as the 2400. I hope this is clear Neil ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Nov-1999 18:31:37-GMT,2507;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06610 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:31:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27919; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:19:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:17:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27848; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:17:56 -0600 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991119101041.00c55180@mail-345> X-Sender: dsites@mail-345 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:19:03 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dick Sites Subject: Re: [PDF] Where is Distiller 302 update for PC In-Reply-To: <38352E05.FC08FE8E@hort.cri.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 12:01 AM 11/20/99 +1300, you wrote: >Sorry to trouble the group, but no one at Abobe will answer! >Does any one know where I can get a PC Distiller 30x --> 302 updater from. >Many thanks >Tim Hembrow 1. Go to www.adobe.com 2. Click Search/Sitemap (center top) 3. In the box, type Distiller 3.02 upgrade 4. Go to the first search result: Acrobat Distiller 3.02 Upgrade Information and Installation Instructions 5. Following the directions from there, you will find under Acrobat Distiller--Windows a set of 4.01 downloads in 7 languages and a set of 3.02 downloads in 8 languages. We do try to make information accessible quickly and easily; sometimes we succeed. The site search has been improved substantially over the last 6 months. Please give it a(nother) try. /dick ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Nov-1999 21:45:04-GMT,2225;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11774 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:44:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07136; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:24:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:21:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06696; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:21:58 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:34:16 -0500 From: "Jeff Sauber" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Where is Distiller 302 update for PC (and Mac too!) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id OAA06692 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >>>> Tim Hembrow - 11/19/99 6:01 AM >>> > >Sorry to trouble the group, but no one at Abobe will answer! > >Does any one know where I can get a PC Distiller 30x --> 302 updater from. > >Many thanks > >Tim Hembrow Can I hitch a ride on this message? I'm trying to root out the 3x --> 3.02 updater for Mac. I can't find it anywhere on their Website. Due to certain restrictions, I need it from an official source. Thanks In Advance, Jeff ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Nov-1999 19:13:34-GMT,1924;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06690 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 12:13:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08649; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 13:07:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 20 Nov 1999 13:06:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA08467; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 13:06:37 -0600 Message-id: Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 11:06:14 -0800 Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for November-20-99 [V2 #666] X-FC-Icon-ID: 2032 X-FC-MachineGenerated: true To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: trepsher@bakersfield.com (Tim Repsher) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I will be out of the office this Friday and I will be on vacation from Nov 21 to Dec 2. If you have questions please call Alan Ferguson - Prepress manager at 706-5501 or Cathy Grant - Prepress supervisor at 395-7233. Happy Thanksgiving Tim ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Nov-1999 19:13:34-GMT,2399;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06689 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 12:13:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08440; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 13:06:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 20 Nov 1999 12:58:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA07586; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 12:58:34 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Strange Res Problems Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 18:58:17 -0000 Message-ID: <00c201bf3389$369c1cc0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <7F94B321EA68D21185B20060977260C302980B@NTSERVER1> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > If the above is done to an A3 page at 2000 resolution the > result is fine but > if the resolution is changed to 2400, bits of the PDF are > missing. The bits > missing are all down both edges of the PDF and it seems that > it chops the > text off down an imaginary line and any images which fall > entirely outside > that line. This sounds like a bug in Distiller 3.0/3.01. If the 3.02 patch is available for your Unix, use it. Otherwise, lower the resolution setting in Distiller until it works - it is not hugely important for most work. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Nov-1999 12:50:20-GMT,2073;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA25222 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 05:50:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA25806; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 06:39:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 06:36:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA25634; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 06:36:13 -0600 Message-ID: <003d01bf341d$05627de0$97907018@cr213078a.glph1.on.wave.home.com> From: "Stellactica" To: References: Subject: Re: [PDF] GOOD NEWS re: Acrobat 4.05 Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 07:34:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id GAA25630 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ There are likely lots of us with T1 or Rogers or other fast access. Given that, it would be extremely courteous of Adobe to make it available by download. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Nov-1999 15:27:05-GMT,2296;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA27682 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 08:27:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04252; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 09:19:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 21 Nov 1999 09:16:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04045; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 09:16:50 -0600 Message-ID: <38380BA9.BE9D0FF8@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 11:11:38 -0400 From: Bryan Guignard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] GOOD NEWS re: Acrobat 4.05 References: <003d01bf341d$05627de0$97907018@cr213078a.glph1.on.wave.home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Stellactica wrote: > There are likely lots of us with T1 or Rogers or other fast access. Given that, it would be extremely courteous of Adobe to make it available by download. I'll second that!!! Sun Microsystems for example makes no qualms about offering StarOffice, a 65mb download, via their website, and I've downloaded SO 5.0 with a 56kb modem and SO 5.01 with T1. Even a 3 hour download by modem is a heck of a lot faster than 4-6 weeks by snail mail, and my download charges are much cheaper than $14.95 Bryan Guignard ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Nov-1999 9:32:41-GMT,4680;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA17554 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 02:32:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA15806; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 03:21:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Nov 1999 03:16:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA15341; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 03:16:21 -0600 Message-Id: <199911220916.JAA27030@maipo.ipl.co.uk> Mail-System-Version: ClickMail 1.1OctE Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 10:14:12 +0000 To: " pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" From: "Stuart Slaney" Subject: Re: [PDF] Where is Distiller 302 update for PC (and Mac too!) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ RE>>[PDF] Where is Distiller 302 update_ 22/11/99 Hello Tim If you give me your direct email I will send it to you, contact me directly on pdfsol@aol.com. KInd regards Stuart Slaney Pdf Soltions www.pdfsolutions.co.uk -------------------------------------- Date: 21/11/99 6:45 am To: Stuart Slaney From: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >>>> Tim Hembrow - 11/19/99 6:01 AM >>> > >Sorry to trouble the group, but no one at Abobe will answer! > >Does any one know where I can get a PC Distiller 30x --> 302 updater from. > >Many thanks > >Tim Hembrow Can I hitch a ride on this message? I'm trying to root out the 3x --> 3.02 updater for Mac. I can't find it anywhere on their Website. Due to certain restrictions, I need it from an official source. Thanks In Advance, Jeff ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Message ID: -1268955755] [Internet header:] Received: from mailhost.ipl.co.uk (beaujolais.ipl.co.uk [193.132.29.47]) by knowwrks.demon.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id XH1QSHTY; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 20:40:22 -0000 Received: from maipo.ipl.co.uk by mailhost.ipl.co.uk (8.6.9/UUNET PIPEX simple 1.29) id UAA14537; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 20:33:52 GMT Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by maipo.ipl.co.uk (8.9.1/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA13237 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 20:33:36 GMT Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA06715; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:21:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:21:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06696; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:21:58 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:34:16 -0500 From: "Jeff Sauber" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Where is Distiller 302 update for PC (and Mac too!) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id OAA06692 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com --Sent via ClickMail Internet Gateway Evaluation (info@oneclick.com)-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Nov-1999 14:52:19-GMT,2282;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA23148 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 07:52:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA09269; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 08:34:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Nov 1999 08:31:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08845; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 08:31:20 -0600 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:31:19 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for November-22-99 [V2 #667] From: David Creamer To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199911220916.DAA15360@everglades.binc.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ on 11/22/99 4:16 AM, pdf-digest at owner-pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com wrote: > Can I hitch a ride on this message? > > I'm trying to root out the 3x --> 3.02 updater for Mac. I can't find it > anywhere on their Website. Due to certain restrictions, I need it from an > official source. > > Thanks In Advance, > Jeff It's on the Adobe web site (I just looked). It's not under Acrobat, but under Acrobat Distiller. I think Distiller was the only part of Acrobat upgraded with the 3.0.2 update. David Creamer I.D.E.A.S. www.ideasdtp.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Nov-1999 15:59:22-GMT,2596;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA24743 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 08:59:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14176; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:23:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:22:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14003; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:22:03 -0600 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9CF1@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'Acrobat Talk Mailing List'" , "'PDF Mailing List'" , "'(P-PDF) General'" Subject: [PDF] Generating E-size PDF Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:21:55 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ My manager sent me a one-age, E-size engineering document in TIF format to convert to PDF. I opened the file in Acrobat 4.0, and used Save As to save it as a PDF. It looked great on this end, but when he got it, he said it was blank. He has the 3.0 viewer, so it appeared to be a compatibility problem with 4.0 vs. 3.0. So, I decided to try to print the image from the viewing application (Spicer Imagenation 5.11). However, the Acrobat Distiller printer driver does not appear to be capable of printing to a page size that large. So, my question is, how do I, with Acrobat 4.0 on a Windows NT 4.0 sp5 machine, produce an E-size PDF which is compatible with Acrobat Reader 3.0? Gary Decker, Senior Information Services Analyst WCNOC / Wolf Creek Generating Station "A company with energy!" Burlington, Kansas USA http://www.wcnoc.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Nov-1999 15:59:46-GMT,4083;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA24755 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 08:59:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA15672; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:39:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:35:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA15340; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:35:23 -0600 Message-ID: <004301bf34ff$227bb260$6cd3d99b@aatd.eustis.army.mil> From: "Paul Redden" To: , "'Acrobat Talk Mailing List'" , "'(P-PDF) General'" References: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9CF1@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Generating E-size PDF Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 10:32:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Acrobat 3 has a limitation on image size but not on resolution. One trick is to open the document in a TIFF editor and save it with smaller dimentions but higher resolution. You don't lose any detail doing this but it will no longer print full size. In Acrobat 4 you can have it expand the image to fit the paper though so it will be close on E size paper. Unfortunately if it is needed to have the scale exact you are out of luck. Paul Redden ----- Original Message ----- From: Decker Gary E To: 'Acrobat Talk Mailing List' ; 'PDF Mailing List' ; '(P-PDF) General' Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 10:21 AM Subject: [PDF] Generating E-size PDF > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > My manager sent me a one-age, E-size engineering document in TIF format > to convert to PDF. I opened the file in Acrobat 4.0, and used Save As > to save it as a PDF. It looked great on this end, but when he got it, > he said it was blank. He has the 3.0 viewer, so it appeared to be a > compatibility problem with 4.0 vs. 3.0. > > So, I decided to try to print the image from the viewing application > (Spicer Imagenation 5.11). However, the Acrobat Distiller printer > driver does not appear to be capable of printing to a page size that > large. So, my question is, how do I, with Acrobat 4.0 on a Windows NT > 4.0 sp5 machine, produce an E-size PDF which is compatible with Acrobat > Reader 3.0? > > Gary Decker, Senior Information Services Analyst > WCNOC / Wolf Creek Generating Station > "A company with energy!" > Burlington, Kansas USA > http://www.wcnoc.com > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Nov-1999 16:09:33-GMT,2765;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24990 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:09:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16358; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:44:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:43:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16221; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:43:25 -0600 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'p-pdf-general Listmanager '" , "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: Generating E-size PDF Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 07:41:33 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >My manager sent me a one-age, E-size engineering document in TIF format >to convert to PDF. I opened the file in Acrobat 4.0, and used Save As >to save it as a PDF. It looked great on this end, but when he got it, >he said it was blank. He has the 3.0 viewer, so it appeared to be a >compatibility problem with 4.0 vs. 3.0. Right. 3.0 has a 40" by 40" size restriction, 4.0 does not. >So, I decided to try to print the image from the viewing application >(Spicer Imagenation 5.11). However, the Acrobat Distiller printer >driver does not appear to be capable of printing to a page size that >large. So, my question is, how do I, with Acrobat 4.0 on a Windows NT >4.0 sp5 machine, produce an E-size PDF which is compatible with Acrobat >Reader 3.0? You can't, because E size has a dimension over 40". 4.0 compatibility is no problem, simply import the TIFF into Acrobat, you're all set. To get a non-scaled E size into Acrobat, you're going to need Acrobat 4. Duff Johnson Document Solutios, Inc. www.document-solutions.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Nov-1999 16:44:20-GMT,2455;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26023 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:44:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21033; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 10:32:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Nov 1999 10:31:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA20855; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 10:31:18 -0600 Message-Id: <199911221631.KAA20850@everglades.binc.net> From: "Kitchen, James x1298" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] RE: Generating E-size PDF Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 11:31:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Acrobat 3 for windows had a limitation of 45 inches not 40. If you just simply take a tiff and import it (not print the tiff to PDFWriter or Distiller) you should not have any problems. One thing to look at on your bosses Computer is does he have Acrobat 3 set to display large images (file-preferences) I have been dealing with E-size and PDFs for over 2 years and not had too many hiccups. If I can be of any help let me know. James Kitchen jkitchen@genicom.com GENICOM A Printer Solutions Company ----------------------- >My manager sent me a one-age, E-size engineering document in TIF format >to convert to PDF. I opened the file in Acrobat 4.0, and used Save As >to save it as a PDF. It looked great on this end, but when he got it, >he said it was blank. He has the 3.0 viewer, so it appeared to be a >compatibility problem with 4.0 vs. 3.0. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Nov-1999 19:55:23-GMT,2000;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01300 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 12:55:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05268; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 13:35:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Nov 1999 13:32:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04902; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 13:32:19 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 13:17:40 -0500 From: "Jeff Sauber" To: Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for November-22-99 [V2 #667] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA04898 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >It's on the Adobe web site (I just looked). >It's not under Acrobat, but under Acrobat Distiller. I think Distiller was >the only part of Acrobat upgraded with the 3.0.2 update. > >David Creamer >I.D.E.A.S. >www.ideasdtp.com Thanks David!! -- Jeff ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Nov-1999 19:55:23-GMT,5058;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01299 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 12:55:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05989; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 13:42:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Nov 1999 13:41:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05748; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 13:41:06 -0600 Message-ID: <38399BFF.476F5C38@bnin.net> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 14:39:44 -0500 From: radcoin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] AutoCad to Acrobat References: <199911221631.KAA20850@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Background: We are a third party engineering company which does plan review & approval, primarily by hard copy. At the current time we are attempting to set up review and approval of plans electronically. What I have in mind is to have our clients create the plans in Auto Cad (or other drafting program) convert them to Acrobat 4.0 and forward them to us VIA Email. We will review them electronically, approve them by attaching a custom stamp and return them VIA Email. Question 1: What is the best way for our clients to generate multiple pages within a PDF for Email; without going through the "external" procedure each time? By this I mean, our clients will first create a floor plan drawing and convert it to PDF through Acrobat PDF Writer (or distiller.) Then they will create additional drawings, such as the mechanical, plumbing, electrical, etc. and add these drawings as additional pages, to the original PDF. The problem is that only one drawing can be sent directly to a PDF page. Additional drawings will have to be imported through the {ctrl}{Shift}{I} command. Although this will work, it involves extra steps and additional; time. What we would like to be able to do is save each additional page to an existing PDF directly from Auto Cad, something like a "add-to" type of command instead of a "replace" command. My question is, is such a procedure possible? Question 2: This request comes from a vice president out of our corporate headquarters. We would like to "generate", or create, passwords protected PDF's without anyone, including myself knowing the password! These drawings, once password protected, will never be edited again, by anyone. I guess the simplest way of explaining it is: when prompted for a password, to just "hit the keyboard" and whatever keys were struck, becomes the the password. Only problem is, that the program asks for conformation of each password. Does anyone know if there is a "switch" or other user option that would allow the password verification to be turned off? Question 3. HERE'S THE TOUGH ONE!!! Put on your thinking caps. The third problem I'm having is, I created a custom stamp using Windows Paint (it's all text, some rotated at 90 deg. some at 270 deg. and some at 0 deg.) and would like to somehow add a "window" to automatically show the current date whenever the stamp is applied. At this time, I apply the custom stamp, and then go back and add a text block (using the "text annotation tool") with the date as text. I've tried to "force" the date to appear by adding a form block (using the "form annotation tool") in the custom stamp with the date as the category. It appears on the small picture but not on the stamp after it's applied to the drawing. I *think* that it's because the custom stamp does not have a transparent background. But it would seem to not matter as the forms field layer lies *above* a stamp field layer. (Forms are on layer 6, stamps are on layer 11.) So I'm stuck. I can continue to add the date as a text (which is a pain as the text block must be created "off stamp", then dragged onto the stamp, positioned and sized each time it's used.) I guess that there's probably no way to have an "active element" in a stamp (although my reasoning is that a stamp is a PDF page, so it *should* come over identical to the original PDF only on a separate layer.) Any ideas?? ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Nov-1999 23:39:05-GMT,5227;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA07457 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 16:38:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA24788; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 17:20:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Nov 1999 17:16:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA24555; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 17:16:08 -0600 Message-ID: <383A042A.7CC5C083@dwsd.org> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 22:04:10 -0500 From: "James Balogh" Organization: Detroit Water & Sewerage Department X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] GOOD NEWS re: Acrobat 4.05 References: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------5CE5228E0B6858CCB6B3BA4C" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------5CE5228E0B6858CCB6B3BA4C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do you know what the file name is? Rich Sprague wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > > From: "Darryl Lucas (Solvera, Handforth, UK)" > > > So Acrobat 4.0 to 4.05 is classified as a bug fix. Why can't we download a > > patch from Adobe's web site as we can for Distiller? > > It ain't a patch. It's a full, re-worked package. Only those of us with T-1 > lines could handle the download effectively. We figure it would take about > 12 minutes for us. > > Here's a thought for Adobe's marketing/distribution team. Set up a > distribution channel for all service providers wherein we can place a > priority order on-line for immediate shipment for these type of > fixes/upgrades. I'd gladly pay a rush fee, and the shipping and handling > charge. > > What does this do for us/everyone? > > As a service provider, Acrobat 4 has bugs that really affect our ability to > produce quality and reliable PDFs. Having the latest version, first, would > ensure our ability to maintain the highest level of integrity in the PDFs we > make for our workflow. > > Second, since a valid 4.0 serial number will allow the installation of the > product, we could offer the upgrade to any of our customers who have a valid > serial number, thus providing the customer another service (this also > provides a service to Adobe). > > I'd gladly pop for the buck + to make a CD for customers. If they don't have > a 4.x serial number, they simply won't be able to install it. > > Of course, I would need to be able to sell the 4.0 upgrades to customers, > which I can't under the current distribution scheme, even though we are a > qualified reseller of products. > > These are just some ideas to loosen the clog in the distribution pipeline, > which now has a logjam of several weeks (which can seem to be a lifetime). > > Rich > > ================================================================ > Rich Sprague, Contributing Editor Planet PDF > rsprague@planetpdf.com http://www.planetpdf.com > ================================================================ > Manager, Sales InfoMania Printing - Prepress > PDF/Acrobat Consulting Heidelberg Quickmaster DI Printing > (916) 852-5900 http://www.infomania.com > ================================================================ > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------5CE5228E0B6858CCB6B3BA4C Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="balogh.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for JimBAlogh Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="balogh.vcf" begin:vcard n:Balogh;James tel;pager:313-275-0116 tel;fax:313-297-0148 tel;work:313-297-7108 x-mozilla-html:TRUE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:balogh@dwsd.org fn:James R. Balogh end:vcard --------------5CE5228E0B6858CCB6B3BA4C-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Nov-1999 0:27:31-GMT,3652;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA08788 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 17:27:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA28710; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:19:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:17:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA28585; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:17:25 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <38399BFF.476F5C38@bnin.net> References: <199911221631.KAA20850@everglades.binc.net> <38399BFF.476F5C38@bnin.net> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:58:55 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] AutoCad to Acrobat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 2:39 PM -0500 11/22/99, radcoin wrote: >The problem is that only one drawing can be sent directly to a PDF page. >Additional drawings will have to be imported through the >{ctrl}{Shift}{I} command. >Although this will work, it involves extra steps and additional; time. > >What we would like to be able to do is save each additional page to >an existing >PDF directly from Auto Cad, something like a "add-to" type of >command instead of a >"replace" command. My question is, is such a procedure possible? No, neither PDFWriter or Distiller allow you to "add to" existing PDF's. What you COULD do, however, is write either an Acrobat plug-in or external application that would automate Acrobat to merge all the pages together. There are a couple of existing ones that you could use as well, including AppendPDF from Digital Applications () or pdfcat from Glance (). >Question 2: >This request comes from a vice president out of our corporate headquarters. It figures ;). >Does anyone know if there is a "switch" or other >user option that would allow the password verification to be turned off? Nope! Software that allows for password entry w/o verification is bad, so you wouldn't ever find a way to turn it off. >Question 3. >HERE'S THE TOUGH ONE!!! Put on your thinking caps. This is an easy one - get yourself a copy of StampPDF from Digital Applications () which will let you do all sorts of fancy stamping including those with "dynamic data" (like dates & times). Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Sr. Software Engineer (215) 922-3509 (voice) Digital Applications (215) 440-0504 (fax) PGP Fingerprint: 8CC9 8878 921E C627 0BC1 15BB FC19 64A9 0016 1397 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Nov-1999 0:55:22-GMT,2559;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA09562 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 17:55:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA30341; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:44:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:43:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA30201; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:43:10 -0600 Message-ID: <3839E1D9.42590444@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 20:37:45 -0400 From: Bryan Guignard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] AutoCad to Acrobat References: <199911221631.KAA20850@everglades.binc.net> <38399BFF.476F5C38@bnin.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >The problem is that only one drawing can be sent directly to a PDF page. > >Additional drawings will have to be imported through the > >{ctrl}{Shift}{I} command. > >Although this will work, it involves extra steps and additional; time. > >>What we would like to be able to do is save each additional page to > >an existing > >PDF directly from Auto Cad, something like a "add-to" type of > >command instead of a > >"replace" command. My question is, is such a procedure possible? Generating PostScript files into a folder and then distilling the properly edited rundirex.ps file can easily do this for you. All the required instructions are contained in the rundirex.ps file. Open it with a plain text editor, read the instructions, edit the file, save it and you're set. Bryan Guignard ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Nov-1999 6:01:17-GMT,2258;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA16231 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 23:01:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA15297; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 23:46:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 22 Nov 1999 23:41:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA15031; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 23:41:48 -0600 From: myke@bmts.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 00:41:39 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Windows question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id XAA15026 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have a trite question about Windows (this from a mac-man). I'm producing a hybrid CD with Reader 4.0 and a large pdf file for a client. On the Mac side, when we set the window to open, we can control the view of the window (the placement of the files, the icons). On the windows side, the files just kind of re-arrange themselves in a random order once the CD is written. Maybe not a question for this group, but if anyone has any experience... Thanks, Myke New Media Consultation RR # 1 Priceville, ON Canada N0C 1K0 p. 519-369-2908 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Nov-1999 7:41:54-GMT,8258;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA18320 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 00:33:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA20301; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 01:14:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 01:11:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA20140; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 01:11:00 -0600 Message-Id: <199911230710.BAA20132@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] AutoCad to Acrobat Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 08:09:51 +0100 x-sender: adfulga@mailhost.aptm.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Adrian Fulga To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Dear Radcoin, (provided that your name IS radcoin, since yr mssg was unsigned) We're currently doing this on Mac for equipment validation in pharma industry. Our own dwgs are made with MiniCad/VectorWorks Third-party Acad dwgs are either transmitted as PDFs by suppliers or, (for our Mac platform) as dwg/dxf that we import in VectorWorks and distill. We don't use PDF Writer but plain Acro4/Distiller because of conflicts by PDFwriter and poor quality obtained in some cases. Original material/quality certificates are scanned (tiff) and PDF-ed Q1: > "add-to" type of command instead of replace" command procedure is not necessary and would be UNSAFE. In our case: For Validation purposes (essentially protection of original document) in PDF form, we don't accept multiple page docs but serialized "books" of dwgs (treated as sub-directories) every page/dwg being signed in Acro4. Some our customers raised the question of approval multiple-page docs, where it is hard, if not impossible, to determine WHICH page was approved, and approval of one page could be interpreted as approval of whole doc. Provided that Acad doc has information (floorplan, plumbing, furniture, etc.) in different layers, each significant layer becomes a single PDF-page for approval. Q2: Again, such a "switch" is not necessary and would be unsafe. Try to randomly generate a password in a database like FileMaker. We use an algorithm that sums doc's author name and date+time at the moment of new password request. PDF-view password is automatically supplied from database via script. Later, if necessary, database administrator can "unlock" the file with "master" password generated by database in the same way. Q3: StampPDF at http://www.digapp.com/ is what you're looking for. Regards Adrian ----- ClarisEmailer2.0v3 -------- [MacB&W400+OS8.6+RAM256MB+HD18GB] radcoin wrote on 991122 20:39 from radcoin@bnin.net > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >Background: >We are a third party engineering company which does plan review & approval, >primarily by hard copy. At the current time we are attempting to set up >review and >approval of plans electronically. What I have in mind is to have our clients >create the plans in Auto Cad (or other drafting program) convert them to >Acrobat >4.0 and forward them to us VIA Email. We will review them electronically, >approve >them by attaching a custom stamp and return them VIA Email. > >Question 1: >What is the best way for our clients to generate multiple pages within a >PDF for >Email; without going through the "external" procedure each time? By this I >mean, >our clients will first create a floor plan drawing and convert it to PDF >through >Acrobat PDF Writer (or distiller.) Then they will create additional >drawings, such >as the mechanical, plumbing, electrical, etc. and add these drawings as >additional >pages, to the original PDF. > >The problem is that only one drawing can be sent directly to a PDF page. >Additional drawings will have to be imported through the {ctrl}{Shift}{I} >command. >Although this will work, it involves extra steps and additional; time. > >What we would like to be able to do is save each additional page to an >existing >PDF directly from Auto Cad, something like a "add-to" type of command >instead of a >"replace" command. My question is, is such a procedure possible? > >Question 2: >This request comes from a vice president out of our corporate >headquarters. We >would like to "generate", or create, passwords protected PDF's without >anyone, >including myself knowing the password! These drawings, once password >protected, >will never be edited again, by anyone. I guess the simplest way of >explaining it >is: when prompted for a password, to just "hit the keyboard" and whatever >keys >were struck, becomes the the password. Only problem is, that the program >asks for >conformation of each password. Does anyone know if there is a "switch" or >other >user option that would allow the password verification to be turned off? > >Question 3. >HERE'S THE TOUGH ONE!!! Put on your thinking caps. > >The third problem I'm having is, I created a custom stamp using Windows Paint >(it's all text, some rotated at 90 deg. some at 270 deg. and some at 0 >deg.) and >would like to somehow add a "window" to automatically show the current date >whenever the stamp is applied. At this time, I apply the custom stamp, and >then go >back and add a text block (using the "text annotation tool") with the date as >text. > >I've tried to "force" the date to appear by adding a form block (using the >"form >annotation tool") in the custom stamp with the date as the category. It >appears on >the small picture but not on the stamp after it's applied to the drawing. I >*think* that it's because the custom stamp does not have a transparent >background. > >But it would seem to not matter as the forms field layer lies *above* a stamp >field layer. (Forms are on layer 6, stamps are on layer 11.) So I'm stuck. >I can >continue to add the date as a text (which is a pain as the text block must be >created "off stamp", then dragged onto the stamp, positioned and sized >each time >it's used.) > >I guess that there's probably no way to have an "active element" in a stamp >(although my reasoning is that a stamp is a PDF page, so it *should* come >over >identical to the original PDF only on a separate layer.) Any ideas?? > > >___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving >the >speed of your PDF JavaScript. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr.Ing. Adrian Fulga / Technical Manager ---------------------------------------------------- APTM SA Advanced Powder Technology and Micronisation CH-6854 Lugano-Stabio, Switzerland ..............specialized in FDA-approved .......... SuperJet - spiraljetmill/micronisers SuperMix - highshear powder mixers SuperFeed - precision twinscrew feeders SuperSieve - online powder sievers SuperFilter - efficient dust separators ---------------------------------------------------- Tel +4191-647-4849/50 Fax +4191-647-4851 : info@aptm.com : aptm@tinet.ch : afulga@aptm.com for more info visit us at http//www.aptm.com ==================================================== ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Nov-1999 15:10:10-GMT,3950;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA26622 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 08:10:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14055; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 08:54:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 08:44:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA12986; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 08:44:23 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: micke@mail.rapidax.se Message-Id: Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:49:43 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Micke Mirell Subject: [PDF] pdf overprint + FEEDBACK! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA12978 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Hi Tim and everyone else! > >>..all in the wonderful Sweden.... >not so bad in southern California either. Actually, now it has started to snow, and I would gladly be i California instead of Stockholm. You don´t wanna employ some new PDF-staff to your company...? :-) Thanks for writing down your workflow. It must have taken some time, but I really appreciate it. I've read it all through and I can´t do more than agree and learn from it. I have no specific questions right now, but for the rest of the list (and to you) I have a question regarding the work me and my collegue are working on right now: We are, as may have been shining through, students at the Royal Institute of Technology (KTH) in Stockholm, Sweden. We have been studying for four years, where of the last 1 1/2 years we have been into Graphic Production and Media Technology (puuh, that´s a long one..). The last thing that we must do before we get our Masters Degree, is to make a 20 weeks job, called "The Master thesis". Me and my collague (Peter Svensson) decided that we wanted to look deeper into this PDF-thing, and got a mission to do so from two large newspapers in Sweden. Both also have a civil production in their business, where customers more or less are demanding a PDF-workflow. We started in September, and we are trying to end this as soon as possible. All of our work will generate an academic report (The Master thesis) about PDF, our methods and also our conclusions. This will be written in English, and my question to all of you is: We would like to have some of you to read it through! ! Is this interesting? We thought that this list must be the perfect way to get feedback ("that´s not true" or "who told you that!") on the content, but also feedback regarding the English we use. We could use some help there. (We know how to spell "meatballs", 'cause we are swedish...*sorry, couldn´t help it. I just had to!*) So if You find this interesting, please let me know. mail me at the adress instead of the list, and I´ll tell you more, ok?! And once again, Thanks Tim! Best Regards, Micke Mirell and Peter Svensson, Royal Institute OF Technology, Stockholm Sweden > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Nov-1999 16:53:23-GMT,3251;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA29605 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 09:53:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21814; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 10:23:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 10:21:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21646; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 10:21:36 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991123112840.009dc4c0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 11:28:40 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Windows question In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >I have a trite question about Windows (this from a mac-man). I'm producing a hybrid CD with Reader 4.0 and a large pdf file for a client. On the Mac side, when we set the window to open, we can control the view of the window (the placement of the files, the icons). On the windows side, the files just kind of re-arrange themselves in a random order once the CD is written. > Suggestion: have a look at Mark Anderson's article about creating PDF/Hybrid CD's on www.pdfzone.com Another thing to consider (and Mark discusses this at greater length in his article) is that user expectations are different on Mac vs PC. Mac folk expect a window to open up, show them files (installer, readme, whatever). PC users generally expect an installer or other program to autolaunch itself when they insert the CD. As a rule, they don't expect to see any windows open up automatically. The order of the icons in a Windows Explorer window will, I'm pretty sure, be controlled by the user's system settings in any case, so I doubt there's much you can do to force it, other than perhaps naming them in alphabetical order so that *if* the user's system is set to sort that way, they'll appear accordingly. Net: I wouldn't lose a lot of sleep over the order of the icons in Windows. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Nov-1999 17:38:56-GMT,2412;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01015 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 10:38:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA27345; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 11:28:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 11:26:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA27175; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 11:26:22 -0600 Message-ID: <00c701bf35d7$cdd9b160$0200a8c0@Paul> From: "Paul Dennis" To: References: Subject: Re: [PDF] Windows question Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 17:25:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Myke, I do this all the time it does depend on the basic windows knowledge of your users. Your options are create an autorun to launch the CD (best) and then give them an option to run set-up and put an icon on the desktop. Limit the number of times the autorun loads. Note Acrobat 4 can be used as the autorun app. Or without Autorun and just give them a set-up to run. we use Wise Installer. http://www.glbs.com/ Beware that if the pdf remains on the CD then you will have to pickup the path to the CD ROM drive in your set-up. Regards Paul Dennis Complete Picture London Publishing Solutions For Industry ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Nov-1999 18:52:25-GMT,2975;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03086 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 11:52:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA32436; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 12:40:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 12:38:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA32202; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 12:38:12 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: chanson@mailhost.nfic.com Message-Id: Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:38:02 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "M. Christian Hanson" Subject: [PDF] MS Word doc -> PDF Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have been trying to get a 30 or so page MS Word document into PDF on my macintosh. I would like to embed all fonts (since I am doing variable replacement once it is in pdf form). Distiller seems to want to only embed subsets of all these Microsoft TrueType fonts. It also substitutes fonts that are active (specifically Book Antiqua) with other fonts. Furthermore the PDFs made will not open correctly on windows. They give the following error: "Unable to find or create the font 'LKOKFD+Palintino-Bold+2'. Some characters may not display or print correctly." And then the document is a mess of dots (very pretty anti-aliased dots). I am going to be getting updates to this document a few times a year (so being able to cleanly pull it directly from Word would be great). I have thought about trying to distill it on a windows machine, but other than that I am at a bit of a loss and hoping the answer is not the obvious 'get out of Word'. I am distilling to 2.1 compatible (so I can use my variable replacement engine on the pdf afterwards) with Distiller 3 on a mac running 8.6. The font settings are embed all checked, subset unchecked, and nothing in the lists. I make the postscript with AdobePS using Type 1 postscript with all fonts embedded. Oh yeah its Word 98. If any more info is needed feel free to email. -chanson ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Nov-1999 19:21:12-GMT,1973;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03919 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 12:21:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01679; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:07:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:04:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01460; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:04:38 -0600 X-Sender: ajameson@192.168.0.7 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 11:12:00 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: ajameson@bearrock.com (Alan Jameson) Subject: [PDF] Knock Outs Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Does anyone know of an application that can knock one PDF page out of another? I know this sounds bizarre, but I'm using a proprietary windows-based application that separates spot colors to individual pages in one pdf file. The problem is, the application doesn't handle knock outs. So, I need to knock one page out of the other to keep from overprinting the colors. Any suggestions? - Alan ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Nov-1999 19:22:48-GMT,1892;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03974 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 12:22:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02068; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:11:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:09:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01893; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:09:58 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991123130924.00832b90@omnipress.com> X-Sender: uschan@omnipress.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:09:24 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Christopher Uschan Subject: [PDF] Unix Readers 4.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Do these Readers function similiar to the Readers built for Windows platforms? Chris Uschan ------------ Digital Resources Manager - OMNIPRESS phone: 608-246-2600 fax: 608-246-4237 Learn more about us at http://www.omnipress.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Nov-1999 19:31:39-GMT,1679;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04189 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 12:31:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03177; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:24:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:22:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03061; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:22:53 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: sadler@mail.iname.com Message-Id: Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 14:21:26 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Adler Subject: [PDF] PDF Merchant Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Any idea where I can get complete details on PDF Merchant? Thanks Steve Adler ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Nov-1999 20:41:18-GMT,3962;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05946 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:41:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08377; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 14:31:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 14:29:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08079; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 14:29:02 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: micke@mail.rapidax.se Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 21:35:02 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Micke Mirell Subject: Re: [PDF] Knock Outs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id OAA08075 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Alan! What application are you using? Quark? Pagemaker? InDesign? Once you have seperated your page into process and spot-colors, the race is lost (correct me anyone if I´m wrong!). You need to seperate your document prior to destilling, i.e. write a separated postscript-file to disc. This if you want one page for every color. I don´t really understand the reason why you would like to have one page for every color, because then you loose some of the benefits of PDF. A composite PDF can be viewed and act like soft-proof for yourself or your customers, and also gives you an oppurtunity to use your PDF-document for repurposing. For the Web or for archiving, as examples Writing to a composite ps-file and then destilling (my suggestion), or export to PDF if your application can do that, you need to consider: If your application doesn´t support trapping, can you seperate in the RIP? If so, does it support trapping (knock-outs, overprint)? Or maybe you shoulduse a plug-in to acrobat such as Cracker Jack to seperate your file before the RIP. Remember to enable the " use prologue/epilogue" in the advanced options settings if you use Acrobat 3.0. You need, of course, to not let the layout-application make spot into CMYK.But that you know already. QuarkXpress generally doesn´t support trapping features when writing to a composite ps-file. If this is your case, you need to trust your RIP. I could talk on and on about this, but I'm not really sure about your workflow (applications, output devices and purpose), so i hope this will help a bit...i.e reconsider your workflow! If I'm totally out of line here, let me know. If not, I can help you with your questions! Regards, Micke Mirell > >Does anyone know of an application that can knock one PDF page out of another? > >I know this sounds bizarre, but I'm using a proprietary windows-based >application that separates spot colors to individual pages in one pdf file. >The problem is, the application doesn't handle knock outs. So, I need to >knock one page out of the other to keep from overprinting the colors. > >Any suggestions? > >- Alan > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Nov-1999 20:53:09-GMT,1865;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06226 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:53:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09247; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 14:41:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 14:40:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09102; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 14:40:00 -0600 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:39:38 -0500 From: marano@ICD.Teradyne.COM (Rosemary Marano (ICD Writers)) Message-Id: <199911232039.PAA20977@capstan.icd.teradyne.com> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Copying and Pasting from Acrobat to a Text Editor in UNIX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-MD5: abgS6tscu1GJzLNfXbtK3g== Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Does anyone know how to copy and paste from Acrobat PDF files to a text editor in UNIX and retain format information (line returns)? Rosemary Marano Teradyne, Inc. Boston, MA ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Nov-1999 20:54:41-GMT,2943;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06266 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:54:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09360; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 14:42:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 14:41:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09255; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 14:41:12 -0600 Message-ID: <8F7C09244A3AD31190F30000E885F972016F35@ADMINSERVER> From: "E. Suskic" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Knock Outs Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 07:46:11 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Alan, maybe bringing the PDF file into illustrator (one page at a time) would solve your problem. Maybe bring each spot colour (PDF page) into a separate laer, which would make it easy then to rearrange and colour as needed. Esad Suskic -----Original Message----- From: ajameson@bearrock.com [mailto:ajameson@bearrock.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 6:12 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Knock Outs The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Does anyone know of an application that can knock one PDF page out of another? I know this sounds bizarre, but I'm using a proprietary windows-based application that separates spot colors to individual pages in one pdf file. The problem is, the application doesn't handle knock outs. So, I need to knock one page out of the other to keep from overprinting the colors. Any suggestions? - Alan ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Nov-1999 20:54:47-GMT,2164;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06278 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:54:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09823; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 14:45:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 14:44:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09572; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 14:44:21 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Unix Readers 4.0 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 20:44:05 -0000 Message-ID: <000501bf35f3$7d0a1100$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19991123130924.00832b90@omnipress.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Do these Readers function similiar to the Readers built for > Windows platforms? I can't think of any major differences except that they have only PostScript printing support. And probably no support for video or audio. They run on a number of specific Unix systems, plus Linux. In all cases X-windows is required. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Nov-1999 23:12:57-GMT,2108;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA09931 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:12:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA21994; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 17:03:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 17:01:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA21901; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 17:01:25 -0600 Message-Id: <199911232301.RAA21895@everglades.binc.net> Subject: [PDF] RE: Generating E-size PDF Date: Wed, 24 Nov 99 12:11:43 +1300 x-sender: craigl@mail.siren.co.nz x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Craig Lauridsen To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ A related question on this issue I have been trying to solve and now perhaps is the right time to ask. What methods are people using to print oversize non-scaled artwork to a small single page A4 printer? Ideally a tile function (as in Freehand etc) would do the trick. As a work-around placing the PDF into another page layout program, which has a tile function, works but is there a more direct route from Acrobat. Craig Lauridsen Acumen Technical Design and Training ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Nov-1999 17:25:03-GMT,4350;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00589 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 10:25:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA27006; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 11:24:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 10:43:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23440; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 10:43:37 -0600 Message-ID: <02f201bf35d1$ecb3b320$45432e9c@pdfzone> From: "Thomas Ziegelbauer" To: Subject: [NEW@PDFzone.com] PDFzone.com What's New - for November 22, 1999 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 10:43:52 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-whats-new@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: listowner@pdfzone.com X-HOME: http://www.pdfzone.com/ X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-EMAIL: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- Now MORE THAN 300 plug-ins, utilities & apps in our PDF Toolbox -> <- Recent 15: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolsnew.asp -> ________________________________________________________ PDFzone.com What's New - for November 22, 1999 http://www.pdfzone.com/index.html?elist=link ======================================= The need for PDF JavaScript speed AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers some guidelines and tips on making better tasting PDF JavaScript. 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Suskic" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: Generating E-size PDF Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:33:17 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Craig, try Crackerjack plugin from www.lantanarips.com, I beleive it allows for tiled output. Esad Suskic -----Original Message----- From: Craig Lauridsen [mailto:craigl@siren.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 10:12 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] RE: Generating E-size PDF The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ A related question on this issue I have been trying to solve and now perhaps is the right time to ask. What methods are people using to print oversize non-scaled artwork to a small single page A4 printer? Ideally a tile function (as in Freehand etc) would do the trick. As a work-around placing the PDF into another page layout program, which has a tile function, works but is there a more direct route from Acrobat. Craig Lauridsen Acumen Technical Design and Training ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Nov-1999 3:37:38-GMT,2124;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA15512 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 20:37:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA29106; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 18:57:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 18:55:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA28952; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 18:55:19 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 20:06:33 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: DaleH Subject: [PDF] RE: Acrobat & Reader 4.05 update Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id SAA28947 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Adobe Systems Incorporated will offer a maintenance update to its popular Adobe® Acrobat® software to registered users at no additional charge. Does that include the plugins for the Mac version of Acrobat 4.05 or do we need to download them separately? Why would Adobe offer two versions of the upgrade CD - one with plugins and one without - in the first place? and why would there be a $10 difference in price? Dale H. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Nov-1999 4:52:23-GMT,2708;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA17234 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 21:52:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA09155; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 22:36:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 22:33:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA08939; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 22:33:52 -0600 From: Mark.Sanders@pearsoned.com.au To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] eps paths look very pixilated when viewed at normal magnification in Reader/Acrobat Mac and PC Message-Id: <"/GUID:Qx9doNS+h0xGf5QAIx59SuQ*/G=Mark/S=Sanders/OU=pearsonedau{095}exch/O=pearsontc/PRMD=pearson/ADMD=telemail/C=au/"@MHS> Date: 23 Nov 1999 23:31:13 -0500 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This may be a common complaint/problem/limitation but I have only recently become aware of it. When distilling the covers of our books we have noticed that vector graphics and or text that has been converted to paths looks very pixilated when viewing the file with Reader or Acrobat on the Mac or PC. Normal type is fine. Bitmap graphics behave as you would expect. Vector art however looks woeful at normal and reduced magnifications. If your magnify it significantly it becomes clear again (say above 600%). I don't think it is a Distiller setup problem as it does remain vector art, is able to be edited in Illustrator/PitStop and is fine when magnified. When the PDF is viewed in Illustrator it is fine! It would appear just to be a screen rendering problem with Acrobat in general. does anyone have any ideas? cheers Mark Sanders DTP System Administrator Schools Division Pearson Education Australia 95 Coventry Street South Melbourne. 3205 mark.sanders@pearsoned.com.au phone 61 3 9697 0668 fax 61 3 9686 7603 mobile 0419 329 081 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Nov-1999 9:40:52-GMT,2846;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA23041 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 02:40:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA24817; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 03:28:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 03:25:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA24624; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 03:25:21 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] eps paths look very pixilated when viewed at normal magnification in Reader/Acrobat Mac and PC Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:24:58 -0000 Message-ID: <001101bf365d$c7b5c4a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <"/GUID:Qx9doNS+h0xGf5QAIx59SuQ*/G=Mark/S=Sanders/OU=pearsonedau{095}exch/O=pearsontc/PRMD=pearson/ADMD=telemail/C=au/"@MHS> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > This may be a common complaint/problem/limitation but I have > only recently become aware of it. When distilling the covers > of our books we have noticed that vector graphics and or text > that has been converted to paths looks very pixilated when > viewing the file with Reader or Acrobat on the Mac or PC. When you convert text to paths you sacrifice all the things which allows the text to be displayed sharply at small sizes ("hints"). Simple rules: 1. Don't convert to curves unless you are outputing at 600 dpi (bare minimum). 2. Don't convert to curves at all if the primary delivery of the file is going to be on screen or on the web (curves also typically make a much larger file). 3. Acrobat removes most of the reasons for converting text to curves - so why bother (though, arguably, it adds some new reasons all of its own). Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Nov-1999 15:38:11-GMT,2438;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA29827 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 08:38:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14751; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:26:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:21:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14325; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:21:53 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 20:09:46 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: DaleH Subject: [PDF] Fonts with Acrobat Install Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ There is a folder of fonts which appears with Acrobat 4's installation and it includes the Adobe Sans/Serif Multiple master set which ATM needs. Others in the same group are Printer fonts only (no screen fonts) of ArialMT, Bold, Italic, Bold Italic; TimesNewRom, Bold, Italic, Bold Italic; Courier, Bold, Italic, Bold Italic; Symbol; ZapfDingbat. What am I supposed to do with these? I can't use them without suitcases for normal document type. One thing I have spent some time doing lately is sorting out all of the TrueType fonts which Apple throws into the Fonts folder along with the Microsoft Office offerings and others. I try to restrict fonts open at startup to a minimum and manage the rest with Suitcase. These Arials and TimesNewRomans have me puzzled. Do I put them in the Fonts folder? Will they conflict with their TrueType namesakes? Dale H. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Nov-1999 17:03:26-GMT,2633;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01994 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:03:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21258; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:48:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:46:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA20969; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:46:05 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Fonts with Acrobat Install Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:45:47 -0000 Message-ID: <001501bf369b$5cc35840$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > There is a folder of fonts which appears with Acrobat 4's > installation and it includes the Adobe Sans/Serif Multiple master set > which ATM needs. Others in the same group are Printer fonts only (no > screen fonts) of ArialMT, Bold, Italic, Bold Italic; TimesNewRom, > Bold, Italic, Bold Italic; Courier, Bold, Italic, Bold Italic; > Symbol; ZapfDingbat. What am I supposed to do with these? Absolutely nothing. Don't move them. Don't remove them. Don't install them. Especially, don't let font management software loose on them. Just leave them alone, otherwise Acrobat may not work. It uses fonts WITHOUT any need for them to be installed in your system. Although it is tempting to try and organise fonts, treat Acrobat's fonts as part of Acrobat, and forget they are there. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Nov-1999 17:09:01-GMT,2302;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02135 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:08:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22212; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:57:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:56:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA22071; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:56:31 -0600 Message-Id: <199911241656.KAA22066@everglades.binc.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:01:56 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Fonts with Acrobat Install From: "Todd Donahue" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >From: DaleH >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: [PDF] Fonts with Acrobat Install >Date: Tue, Nov 23, 1999, 4:09 PM > > These Arials and TimesNewRomans have me puzzled. Do I put them in the > Fonts folder? Will they conflict with their TrueType namesakes? > Dale, Leave the fonts in the folder where Acrobat installed them. They are necessary for Acrobat to function properly. You don't want to manage these fonts. -- Todd Donahue Acquired Knowledge Inc. todd@acquiredknowledge.com Creators of EZ-PDF "The easiest way to create PDF files for any use" http://www.acquiredknowledge.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Nov-1999 17:29:31-GMT,1753;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02725 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:29:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24199; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:17:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:15:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24112; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:15:58 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:15:30 -0800 From: John D Fisk To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] pdf-digest for November-24-99 [V2 #669] -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until Monday, November 29. If you need any assistance, please call Ron Aardal at 5-0113 or Pat Moorman at 5-5065. Thanx! ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Nov-1999 17:40:34-GMT,3159;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03042 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:40:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25295; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:30:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:28:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25113; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:28:22 -0600 Message-Id: <199911241728.LAA25098@everglades.binc.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:33:51 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] MS Word doc -> PDF From: "Todd Donahue" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >From: "M. Christian Hanson" >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: [PDF] MS Word doc -> PDF >Date: Tue, Nov 23, 1999, 10:38 AM > [snip] > Distiller seems to want to only embed subsets of all these Microsoft TrueType > fonts. It also substitutes fonts that are active (specifically Book Antiqua) > with other fonts. I too have found Distiller creates subsets of TrueType fonts even if the subsetting parameter is off. I have tested this with complete TrueType font data embedded in the PostScript file, and have seen Distiller split one TrueType font into as many as three subsets depending on the characters used. I have observed this behavior in both Distiller 3.0 and 4.0. I have looked at all the documentation regarding Distiller and have not been able to locate any reference as to why this subsetting occurs. Perhaps this has been overlooked??? I'm guessing that Distiller does the subsetting so that it can optimize the font encoding (the mapping of character codes to actual printed characters) as it seems to split the font along these lines. (WinAnsi, MacRoman, CID-Identity). BTW, I have not seen any font substitution occurring with Book Antiqua. I used this font as my test case. I'm not sure this helps, but at least you know that your problem is not unique. -- Todd Donahue Acquired Knowledge Inc. todd@acquiredknowledge.com Creators of EZ-PDF "The easiest way to create PDF files for any use" http://www.acquiredknowledge.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Nov-1999 19:15:26-GMT,2503;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05586 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:15:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA31903; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:58:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:55:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA31736; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:55:46 -0600 Message-ID: <000b01bf36ac$898f2dc0$5a4801d8@tpsitulsa.com> From: "Fadel F Iskander" To: References: <199911221631.KAA20850@everglades.binc.net> Subject: [PDF] Re: HELP! Bug with 4.00 & 4.05 Readers while Printing pages beyond 65536 Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:48:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello, We have been trying top print a single page in a large PDF file (96,000 pages). The page we are trying to print is page 77,009. Acrobat reader 4.0, and reader 4.05 will display the page just fine. However, when we try to print it, it prints page 11,473 instead. A quick calculation indicates 11,473 = 77,009 - 65,536. I have tried another page range, and the difference was also 65,536. 65,536 is 2 to the sixteenth power. Is acrobat reader a 32-bit application? Was this a known bug with 4.0? Has this been posted before? Is there a quick fix? Please help. Fadel F. Iskander, Ph.D. Vice President TPSi www.tpsitulsa.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Nov-1999 19:57:08-GMT,1731;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06654 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:57:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03380; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:48:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:45:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03241; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:45:51 -0600 Message-ID: From: Darin Brackett To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Turning deskew off in Capture Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:46:29 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ what is the file and the setting you can change to turn off deskew in both Capture 1 and 2 Thanks ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Nov-1999 20:35:14-GMT,4864;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07569 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:35:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA06633; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:24:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:22:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06482; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:22:04 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991124152858.008abc30@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 15:28:58 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] eps paths look very pixilated when viewed at normal magnification in Reader/Acrobat Mac and PC In-Reply-To: <"/GUID:Qx9doNS+h0xGf5QAIx59SuQ*/G=Mark/S=Sanders/OU=pearso nedau{095}exch/O=pearsontc/PRMD=pearson/ADMD=telemail/C=au/"@MHS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Think about what you're asking Reader to do in displaying this stuff. Let's say you have a fairly complex vector logo including type that's 1" sq. on a letter size page. You're viewing it in Reader on a 1024 x 768 monitor. Allowing say 150 pixels for AcroFurniture (buttons, toolbars, status bar, etc) that leaves you 875 pixels or so in which to display the full height of the page, or about 80 screen dots per inch of "paper". IOW, your logo has to be rendered in no more than 80 pixels on screen. There isn't a lot Reader can do to make it look good in that few pixels. It does a surprisingly good job with the type, but if the type's converted to curves, it loses the ability to hint and it doesn't attempt to anti-alias, which pretty well accounts for the large differences. In addition, you'll probably find that text-as-curves makes bigger PDFs and draws more slowly on screen. That's been my experience, in any case. For that reason, I try whenever practical to leave text as text. Other vector graphics ... that's trickier; compromise. What's the primary purpose? On screen viewing? In that case, keep the graphics simple and bold or convert them to bitmaps. If the primary end use is for printing, then leave them as vectors (or possibly higher-rez bitmaps) and live with the on-screen performance hit. IOW: Cake ... [ ] Have it [ } Eat it Choose one. >This may be a common complaint/problem/limitation but I have only recently become aware of it. When distilling the covers of our books we have noticed that vector graphics and or text that has been converted to paths looks very pixilated when viewing the file with Reader or Acrobat on the Mac or PC. Normal type is fine. Bitmap graphics behave as you would expect. Vector art however looks woeful at normal and reduced magnifications. If your magnify it significantly it becomes clear again (say above 600%). I don't think it is a Distiller setup problem as it does remain vector art, is able to be edited in Illustrator/PitStop and is fine when magnified. When the PDF is viewed in Illustrator it is fine! It would appear just to be a screen rendering problem with Acrobat in general. > >does anyone have any ideas? > >cheers > > > >Mark Sanders >DTP System Administrator >Schools Division >Pearson Education Australia >95 Coventry Street >South Melbourne. 3205 >mark.sanders@pearsoned.com.au >phone 61 3 9697 0668 >fax 61 3 9686 7603 >mobile 0419 329 081 > > > >___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the >speed of your PDF JavaScript. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Nov-1999 21:00:26-GMT,3030;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA08188 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:00:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08158; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:39:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:38:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08015; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:38:16 -0600 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.2.19991124123543.00cc37a0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:37:42 -0800 To: "Fadel F Iskander" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: HELP! Bug with 4.00 & 4.05 Readers while Printing pages beyond 65536 Cc: In-Reply-To: <000b01bf36ac$898f2dc0$5a4801d8@tpsitulsa.com> References: <199911221631.KAA20850@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ (1) No, it is a 32-bit application but obviously it would appear from the evidence you have provided that the most significant bits of a page number are lost in some conversion somewhere. (2) I have forwarded your report on to Adobe's Acrobat development group. (3) What platform? - Dov At 11/24/99 10:48 AM , Fadel F Iskander wrote: >Hello, > >We have been trying top print a single page in a large PDF file (96,000 >pages). The page we are trying to print is page 77,009. > >Acrobat reader 4.0, and reader 4.05 will display the page just fine. >However, when we try to print it, it prints page 11,473 instead. A quick >calculation indicates 11,473 = 77,009 - 65,536. > >I have tried another page range, and the difference was also 65,536. > >65,536 is 2 to the sixteenth power. Is acrobat reader a 32-bit application? > >Was this a known bug with 4.0? > >Has this been posted before? Is there a quick fix? > >Please help. > >Fadel F. Iskander, Ph.D. >Vice President >TPSi >www.tpsitulsa.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Nov-1999 21:41:34-GMT,2295;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09121 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:41:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12793; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 15:30:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 15:28:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA12528; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 15:28:06 -0600 Message-ID: <383C5815.BF5BF3AF@bnin.net> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:26:46 -0500 From: radcoin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: HELP! Bug with 4.00 & 4.05 Readers while Printing pages beyond 65536 References: <199911221631.KAA20850@everglades.binc.net> <000b01bf36ac$898f2dc0$5a4801d8@tpsitulsa.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Fadel F Iskander wrote: > We have been trying top print a single page in a large PDF file (96,000 > pages). The page we are trying to print is page 77,009. > > Acrobat reader 4.0, and reader 4.05 will display the page just fine. > However, when we try to print it, it prints page 11,473 instead. A quick > calculation indicates 11,473 = 77,009 - 65,536. Quick fix. Add one additional page just before page 77,009, making page 77,009 become page 77,010. Print 77,010 then take the extra blank page out. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Nov-1999 23:50:05-GMT,2525;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA12212 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:50:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA21838; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:38:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:35:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA21714; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:35:43 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001501bf369b$5cc35840$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: <001501bf369b$5cc35840$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 18:46:56 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: DaleH Subject: RE: [PDF] Fonts with Acrobat Install Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >> There is a folder of fonts which appears with Acrobat 4's >> installation and it includes the Adobe Sans/Serif Multiple master set > > which ATM needs. Others in the same group . . . ArialMT, Bold, >Italic, Bold Italic; TimesNewRom, >> Bold, Italic, Bold Italic; Courier, Bold, Italic, Bold Italic; >> Symbol; ZapfDingbat. What am I supposed to do with these? > >Absolutely nothing. Don't move them. Don't remove them. >Don't install them. Especially, don't let font management >software loose on them. Just leave them alone, otherwise Acrobat may >not work. It uses fonts WITHOUT any need for them to be installed >in your system. This is clear advise. However, what do I do if I have Type 1 instances of these fonts already in use? For instance Courier, Symbol, ZapfDingbat? Wouldn't this result in a conflict? DaleH ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Nov-1999 23:50:09-GMT,2706;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA12216 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:50:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA21839; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:38:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:35:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA21606; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:35:05 -0600 Message-ID: <001301bf36d4$832d1640$5a4801d8@tpsitulsa.com> From: "Fadel F Iskander" To: References: <199911221631.KAA20850@everglades.binc.net> <000b01bf36ac$898f2dc0$5a4801d8@tpsitulsa.com> <383C5815.BF5BF3AF@bnin.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: HELP! Bug with 4.00 & 4.05 Readers while Printing pages beyond 65536 Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:34:51 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Quick fix. > Add one additional page just before page 77,009, making page 77,009 become page > 77,010. > Print 77,010 then take the extra blank page out. > >From page 65,536 forward, acrobat reader prints page 1 forward. That is when viewing page 65537 then try to print it, acrobat prints page 1; when viewing page 65538 then try to print it, acrobat prints page 2; when viewing page 65539 then try to print it, acrobat prints page 3; when viewing page 65540 then try to print it, acrobat prints page 4; when viewing page 65541 then try to print it, acrobat prints page 5; and when viewing page 77009 then try to print it, acrobat prints page 11473!! etc. Hope this explains better what is happening. Thanks for your response. Fadel F. Iskander TPSi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Nov-1999 0:16:40-GMT,3107;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA12735 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:16:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA24020; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 18:09:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 18:07:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA23917; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 18:07:06 -0600 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.2.19991124160436.00cbf710@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:06:11 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: RE: [PDF] Fonts with Acrobat Install In-Reply-To: References: <001501bf369b$5cc35840$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> <001501bf369b$5cc35840$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ No conflict. Don't even dream of mucking with the fonts in Acrobat's private font folder/directory or else you will end up being one of the folk crying about how this, that, or something else didn't embed, print, and/or display correctly. (8-)> - Dov At 11/24/99 02:46 PM , you wrote: >>> There is a folder of fonts which appears with Acrobat 4's >>> installation and it includes the Adobe Sans/Serif Multiple master set >> > which ATM needs. Others in the same group . . . ArialMT, Bold, Italic, Bold Italic; TimesNewRom, >>> Bold, Italic, Bold Italic; Courier, Bold, Italic, Bold Italic; >>> Symbol; ZapfDingbat. What am I supposed to do with these? >> >>Absolutely nothing. Don't move them. Don't remove them. >>Don't install them. Especially, don't let font management >>software loose on them. Just leave them alone, otherwise Acrobat may >>not work. It uses fonts WITHOUT any need for them to be installed >>in your system. > >This is clear advise. However, what do I do if I have Type 1 instances of these fonts already in use? For instance Courier, Symbol, ZapfDingbat? Wouldn't this result in a conflict? > >DaleH ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Nov-1999 0:21:53-GMT,2562;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA12840 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:21:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA24304; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 18:12:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 18:10:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA24155; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 18:10:21 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Fonts with Acrobat Install Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 00:09:59 -0000 Message-ID: <000001bf36d9$6a9647a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >> There is a folder of fonts which appears with Acrobat 4's > >> installation... What am I supposed to do with these? > > > >Absolutely nothing... > > This is clear advise. However, what do I do if I have Type 1 > instances of these fonts already in use? For instance Courier, > Symbol, ZapfDingbat? Wouldn't this result in a conflict? No, still do nothing. The fonts in the Acrobat folders will not be seen by your system (unless you change something), so there can be no conflict, except in Acrobat. Acrobat shouldn't mind. This is especially important for Distiller, which actually does not know or care which fonts are active in your system. It uses only the fonts found in the font folders specified. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Nov-1999 0:48:42-GMT,1780;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA13389 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:48:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA26222; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 18:41:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 18:38:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA25965; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 18:38:56 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: cis.cecosami.com.pe: nobody set sender to anthev using -f From: "Anthev" To: Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:40:57 +0000 (GMT) Organization: CECOSAMI X-Mailer: ObsidianSystems-OcsEmail1-0-28p1 brewed at www.obsidian.co.za Message-ID: <94345445731186-24194031186anthev@cecosami.com.pe> Subject: [PDF] Prinergy Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is somebody working with Prinergy? 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Was prinergy a good choice? ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Nov-1999 8:47:57-GMT,6070;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA22754 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 01:47:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA21202; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 02:36:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 02:32:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA20953; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 02:32:28 -0600 Message-ID: From: Maeder Frank To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Prinergy Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 09:32:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BF371F.913DBA1E" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF371F.913DBA1E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" We've been beta testers for Prinergy since May and we're doing all of our production with it right now: it works a treat. The only thing is that we still have a pre-separated postscript workflow (at the moment) so the pdf files we use don't look that nice (4 separations in one document for example). The beauty of this workflow is that you can mix separated and composite files within the same signature. ------------------- Frank Maeder Edipresse Imprimeries IRL SA Ch. du Closel 5 1020 Renens Switzerland Phone: +41 21 349 5 368 e-mail: frank.maeder@edipresse.ch -----Original Message----- From: Anthev [mailto:anthev@cecosami.com.pe] Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 3:41 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Prinergy The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is somebody working with Prinergy? I like to know how this workflow works? Was prinergy a good choice? ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF371F.913DBA1E Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [PDF] Prinergy

We've been beta testers for Prinergy since May and = we're doing all of our production with it right now: it works a treat. = The only thing is that we still have a pre-separated postscript = workflow (at the moment) so the pdf files we use don't look that nice = (4 separations in one document for example). The beauty of this = workflow is that you can mix separated and composite files within the = same signature.

-------------------
Frank Maeder
Edipresse Imprimeries IRL SA
Ch. du Closel 5
1020 Renens
Switzerland
Phone:  +41 21 349 5 368
e-mail: frank.maeder@edipresse.ch

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------_=_NextPart_001_01BF371F.913DBA1E-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Nov-1999 9:02:32-GMT,7303;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA23032 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 02:02:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA21876; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 02:47:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 02:44:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA21629; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 02:44:34 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 10:50:56 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Micke Mirell Subject: RE: [PDF] Prinergy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1268599038==_ma============" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ --============_-1268599038==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! Does anyone know how to become beta tester, or how to get a hold of=20 any Prinergy evaluation stuff? I=B4m very, very interested, especially=20 of their trapping solutions (trap editor, or something like that). Regards, Micke Mirell >We've been beta testers for Prinergy since May and we're doing all=20 >of our production with it right now: it works a treat. The only=20 >thing is that we still have a pre-separated postscript workflow (at=20 >the moment) so the pdf files we use don't look that nice (4=20 >separations in one document for example). The beauty of this=20 >workflow is that you can mix separated and composite files within=20 >the same signature. > >------------------- >Frank Maeder >Edipresse Imprimeries IRL SA >Ch. du Closel 5 >1020 Renens >Switzerland >Phone: +41 21 349 5 368 >e-mail: frank.maeder@edipresse.ch > > -----Original Message----- >From: Anthev [mailto:anthev@cecosami.com.p= e] >Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 3:41 PM >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: [PDF] Prinergy > > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com |=20 >http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >Is somebody working with Prinergy? I like to know how this workflow=20 >works? Was prinergy a good choice? > > >___________ * NOW SHOWING @=20 >http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving = the >speed of your PDF JavaScript. >=20 ><ht=20 >tp://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/index.html?elist=3Dlink> >---------------------------------------------------------------------------= - --============_-1268599038==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [PDF] Prinergy
Hi!
Does anyone know how to become beta tester, or how to get a hold of any Prinergy evaluation stuff? I=B4m very, very interested, especially of their trapping solutions (trap editor, or something like that).
Regards,
Micke Mirell


We've been beta testers for Prinergy since May and we're doing all of our production with it right now: it works a treat. The only thing is that we still have a pre-separated postscript workflow (at the moment) so the pdf files we use don't look that nice (4 separations in one document for example). The beauty of this workflow is that you can mix separated and composite files within the same signature.
-------------------
Frank Maeder
Edipresse Imprimeries IRL SA
Ch. du Closel 5
1020 Renens
Switzerland
Phone:  +41 21 349 5 368
e-mail: frank.maeder@edipresse.ch
 -----Original Message-----
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Sent:   Wednesday, November 24, 1999 3:41 PM
To:     pdf@lists.pdfzone.com
Subject:        [PDF] Prinergy

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--============_-1268599038==_ma============-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Nov-1999 15:27:53-GMT,2361;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA29757 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 08:27:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA10552; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 08:59:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 08:56:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10327; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 08:56:40 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: kfoss@mail.roundtable.com.au Message-Id: Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 09:02:10 -0600 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] FYI> Giving Thanks for, with PDF Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Yesterday at Planet PDF we posted a new 'Spotlight' feature that showcases a select set of Thanksgiving-related PDFs and PDF-savvy sites with holiday-oriented resources. It includes tips to keep you from poisoning the relatives (unless that's your intent!) and numerous download-and-print projects with a turkey (bird, not country) theme. Read "Heading Home for the Holidays with PDF" at: http://www.planetpdf.com/mainpage.asp?webpageid=508 rgds ~ Kurt ________________ Planet PDF: A World of PDF Resources ________________ Kurt Foss | Editor | http://www.planetpdf.com/ | mailto:kfoss@planetpdf.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- => READ "In Orbit" http://www.planetpdf.com/mainpage.asp?WebPageID=504 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Nov-1999 17:38:49-GMT,2379;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02234 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 10:38:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA18890; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 11:28:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 11:22:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA18437; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 11:22:13 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991125122920.009ee3c0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 12:29:20 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Fonts with Acrobat Install In-Reply-To: References: <001501bf369b$5cc35840$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> <001501bf369b$5cc35840$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >This is clear advise. However, what do I do if I have Type 1 >instances of these fonts already in use? For instance Courier, >Symbol, ZapfDingbat? Wouldn't this result in a conflict? > It shouldn't, so long as you don't try to install the private versions of the fonts in any way. Acrobat should only use them when they're not otherwise available. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Nov-1999 17:41:46-GMT,3008;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02299 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 10:41:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA18999; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 11:29:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 11:26:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA18741; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 11:26:57 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991125123405.009e4af0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 12:34:05 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Fonts with Acrobat Install In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.19991124160436.00cbf710@mail-303> References: <001501bf369b$5cc35840$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> <001501bf369b$5cc35840$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >No conflict. Don't even dream of mucking with the fonts in >Acrobat's private font folder/directory or else you will end >up being one of the folk crying about how this, that, or something >else didn't embed, print, and/or display correctly. (8-)> > Hi, Dov. A (possible) feature request for later versions of Acrobat. I seem to have a full set of these fonts for each of Reader, Exchange and Distiller. That may be the result of various installs/uninstalls of the different bits, so the suggestion may in fact be pointless. But if it's normal for each app to maintain its own set of fonts, it seems to me that it'd make sense to allow the user who so wishes to set some sort of flag in each of the apps that says "Look in for your base fonts". We could then keep just one set of fonts rather than multiples for Acrobat's private use. And yes, I do realize that it's a good deal trickier than it sounds to do this ;-) Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25-Nov-1999 21:58:56-GMT,2904;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07025 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 14:58:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00507; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 15:48:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 15:42:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA00187; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 15:42:15 -0600 Message-ID: <009201bf378d$c8471000$156dfea9@ELDAD> From: "Eldad" To: Subject: [PDF] Problems Printing PDF files Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 16:40:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008F_01BF3763.DA5FBAA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008F_01BF3763.DA5FBAA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am having allot of trouble printing PDF files to a linotronic Rip 30 = and a Linotronic 300 imagesetter. Does any one have any knowledge on = this. I can give more details if anyone can help. Thank You, Matthew = Scott ------=_NextPart_000_008F_01BF3763.DA5FBAA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am having allot of trouble printing = PDF files to=20 a linotronic Rip 30 and a Linotronic 300 imagesetter. Does any one have = any=20 knowledge on this. I can give more details if anyone can help. Thank = You,=20 Matthew Scott
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Eldad,
 
need more information:
 
1. What application are you using to output?
2. What OS, printer driver and PPD?
3. What level of PS?
4. Composite, mono, CMYK or spot colours?
 
 
Esad Suskic
-----Original Message-----
From: Eldad [mailto:parchmentpress@worldnet.att.net]
Sent: Friday, November 26, 1999 8:41
To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com
Subject: [PDF] Problems Printing PDF files

I am having allot of trouble printing PDF files to a linotronic Rip 30 and a Linotronic 300 imagesetter. Does any one have any knowledge on this. I can give more details if anyone can help. Thank You, Matthew Scott
------_=_NextPart_001_01BF3797.AC54750E-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Nov-1999 4:23:31-GMT,7103;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA13444 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 21:23:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA20314; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 22:08:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 22:04:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA20101; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 22:04:33 -0600 Message-ID: <002101bf37c3$28cf06f0$156dfea9@ELDAD> From: "Eldad" To: References: <8F7C09244A3AD31190F30000E885F972016F3E@ADMINSERVER> Subject: Re: [PDF] Problems Printing PDF files Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 22:56:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF3798.5AFCD920" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF3798.5AFCD920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank You for responding. I am using Acrobat 4.0 on windows 2000, = Linotronic 300 v47.1 ppd l300_471.ppd, postscript level 1, and a = composite. I have the same problem from windows 98 so I know it is not a = 2000 problem. I can print other files to this machine just not pdf = files? Thank You for any help that you can have. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: E. Suskic=20 To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'=20 Sent: Thursday, November 25, 1999 5:51 PM Subject: RE: [PDF] Problems Printing PDF files Eldad, =20 need more information: =20 1. What application are you using to output? 2. What OS, printer driver and PPD? 3. What level of PS? 4. Composite, mono, CMYK or spot colours? =20 =20 Esad Suskic -----Original Message----- From: Eldad [mailto:parchmentpress@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Friday, November 26, 1999 8:41 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Problems Printing PDF files I am having allot of trouble printing PDF files to a linotronic Rip = 30 and a Linotronic 300 imagesetter. Does any one have any knowledge on = this. I can give more details if anyone can help. Thank You, Matthew = Scott ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF3798.5AFCD920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank You for responding. I am using = Acrobat 4.0 on=20 windows 2000, Linotronic 300 v47.1 ppd l300_471.ppd, postscript level 1, = and a=20 composite. I have the same problem from windows 98 so I know it is not a = 2000=20 problem. I can print other files to this machine just not pdf files? = Thank You=20 for any help that you can have.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 E. Suskic
To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'
Sent: Thursday, November 25, = 1999 5:51=20 PM
Subject: RE: [PDF] Problems = Printing PDF=20 files

Eldad,
 
need=20 more information:
 
1.=20 What application are you using to output?
2.=20 What OS, printer driver and PPD?
3.=20 What level of PS?
4.=20 Composite, mono, CMYK or spot colours?
 
 
Esad=20 Suskic
-----Original Message-----
From: Eldad [mailto:parchmentpress@wor= ldnet.att.net]
Sent:=20 Friday, November 26, 1999 8:41
To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com
Sub= ject:=20 [PDF] Problems Printing PDF files

I am having allot of trouble = printing PDF files=20 to a linotronic Rip 30 and a Linotronic 300 imagesetter. Does any = one have=20 any knowledge on this. I can give more details if anyone can help. = Thank=20 You, Matthew = Scott
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF3798.5AFCD920-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Nov-1999 4:54:41-GMT,2566;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA13941 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 21:54:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA22421; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 22:46:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 25 Nov 1999 22:44:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA22275; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 22:44:57 -0600 From: joey_reyes@inod.com Message-Id: <9911259435.AA943591391@atrain.inod.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.30.00.7 Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 12:47:38 -0500 To: Subject: [PDF] Querry about Links MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi guys! We do have a test project that we are doing right now. And one of the requirements is that we need to make a link from one PDF file to another PDF file. The PDF files that we are working right now are newspapers. The problem is, we need to make a link from a certain article of one PDF file to the other PDF file where the continuation is. I do know that Acrobat can create a link from one file to the other but only to open that file and not to link to a certain topic within that opened file. My question is, is it possible to do this? Is there any plug-in that can support this kind of links? I hope that somebody can give me a hand here. Thank you very much in advance and best regards to all the subscribers of PDFZone. Joey Reyes Technical Support Staff Innodata ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Nov-1999 6:11:59-GMT,3809;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA15325 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:11:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA26510; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:03:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:01:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA26447; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:01:44 -0600 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: X-Location: Remote (ISAACS_REMOTE) Message-Id: <4.2.2.19991125215849.00b8b990@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 22:01:24 -0800 To: "Eldad" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Problems Printing PDF files Cc: In-Reply-To: <009201bf378d$c8471000$156dfea9@ELDAD> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_5051813==_.ALT" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ --=====================_5051813==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11/25/99 01:40 PM , Eldad wrote: >I am having allot of trouble printing PDF files to a linotronic Rip 30 and a Linotronic 300 imagesetter. Does any one have any knowledge on this. I can give more details if anyone can help. Thank You, Matthew Scott Quite frankly, just telling us that you "have a lot of problems printing PDF files to a Linotronic Rip 30 and a Linotronic 300 imagesetter" really doesn't give anyone much to go on. Platform, version of Acrobat files created on, version of Acrobat printing from, particulars about files, printer driver & versions, PPD files, etc. as well as the symptoms of "a lot of trouble" would help participants on this list help you out. - Dov --=====================_5051813==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" At 11/25/99 01:40 PM , Eldad wrote:
I am having allot of trouble printing PDF files to a linotronic Rip 30 and a Linotronic 300 imagesetter. Does any one have any knowledge on this. I can give more details if anyone can help. Thank You, Matthew Scott

Quite frankly, just telling us that you "have a lot of
problems printing PDF files to a Linotronic Rip 30 and a
Linotronic 300 imagesetter" really doesn't give anyone
much to go on.

Platform, version of Acrobat files created on, version
of Acrobat printing from, particulars about files, printer
driver & versions, PPD files, etc. as well as the symptoms
of "a lot of trouble" would help participants on this
list help you out.

        - Dov --=====================_5051813==_.ALT-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Nov-1999 6:30:53-GMT,6085;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA15640 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:30:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA27710; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:23:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:21:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA27645; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:21:36 -0600 Message-ID: <003d01bf37d6$54446240$156dfea9@ELDAD> From: "Eldad" To: "Dov Isaacs" Cc: References: <4.2.2.19991125215849.00b8b990@mail-303> Subject: Re: [PDF] Problems Printing PDF files Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 01:19:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0029_01BF37AC.566E8750" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01BF37AC.566E8750 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank You for responding. I am using Acrobat 4.0 on windows 2000, = Linotronic 300 v47.1 ppd l300_471.ppd, postscript level 1, and a = composite. I have the same problem from windows 98 so I know it is not a = 2000 problem. I can print other files to this machine just not pdf = files? Thank You for any help that you can have. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dov Isaacs=20 To: Eldad=20 Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com=20 Sent: Friday, November 26, 1999 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [PDF] Problems Printing PDF files At 11/25/99 01:40 PM , Eldad wrote: I am having allot of trouble printing PDF files to a linotronic Rip = 30 and a Linotronic 300 imagesetter. Does any one have any knowledge on = this. I can give more details if anyone can help. Thank You, Matthew = Scott Quite frankly, just telling us that you "have a lot of problems printing PDF files to a Linotronic Rip 30 and a Linotronic 300 imagesetter" really doesn't give anyone much to go on. Platform, version of Acrobat files created on, version of Acrobat printing from, particulars about files, printer driver & versions, PPD files, etc. as well as the symptoms of "a lot of trouble" would help participants on this list help you out. - Dov=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01BF37AC.566E8750 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank You for responding. I am using = Acrobat 4.0 on=20 windows 2000, Linotronic 300 v47.1 ppd l300_471.ppd, postscript level 1, = and a=20 composite. I have the same problem from windows 98 so I know it is not a = 2000=20 problem. I can print other files to this machine just not pdf files? = Thank You=20 for any help that you can have.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Dov = Isaacs
To: Eldad
Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com
Sent: Friday, November 26, 1999 = 1:01=20 AM
Subject: Re: [PDF] Problems = Printing PDF=20 files

At 11/25/99 01:40 PM , Eldad wrote:
I am having allot of trouble printing = PDF files=20 to a linotronic Rip 30 and a Linotronic 300 imagesetter. Does any = one have=20 any knowledge on this. I can give more details if anyone can help. = Thank=20 You, Matthew Scott

Quite frankly, just = telling us that=20 you "have a lot of
problems printing PDF files to a Linotronic Rip = 30 and=20 a
Linotronic 300 imagesetter" really doesn't give anyone
much to = go=20 on.

Platform, version of Acrobat files created on, = version
of=20 Acrobat printing from, particulars about files, printer
driver = &=20 versions, PPD files, etc. as well as the symptoms
of "a lot of = trouble"=20 would help participants on this
list help you=20 = out.

        -=20 Dov ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01BF37AC.566E8750-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Nov-1999 6:30:57-GMT,6049;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA15645 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:30:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA27711; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:23:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:21:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA27618; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:21:34 -0600 Message-ID: <003c01bf37d6$4d9e1d00$156dfea9@ELDAD> From: "Eldad" To: References: <4.2.2.19991125215849.00b8b990@mail-303> Subject: Re: [PDF] Problems Printing PDF files Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 01:18:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01BF37AC.2F0AC200" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BF37AC.2F0AC200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank You for responding. I am using Acrobat 4.0 on windows 2000, = Linotronic 300 v47.1 ppd l300_471.ppd, postscript level 1, and a = composite. I have the same problem from windows 98 so I know it is not a = 2000 problem. I can print other files to this machine just not pdf = files? Thank You for any help that you can have. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dov Isaacs=20 To: Eldad=20 Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com=20 Sent: Friday, November 26, 1999 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [PDF] Problems Printing PDF files At 11/25/99 01:40 PM , Eldad wrote: I am having allot of trouble printing PDF files to a linotronic Rip = 30 and a Linotronic 300 imagesetter. Does any one have any knowledge on = this. I can give more details if anyone can help. Thank You, Matthew = Scott Quite frankly, just telling us that you "have a lot of problems printing PDF files to a Linotronic Rip 30 and a Linotronic 300 imagesetter" really doesn't give anyone much to go on. Platform, version of Acrobat files created on, version of Acrobat printing from, particulars about files, printer driver & versions, PPD files, etc. as well as the symptoms of "a lot of trouble" would help participants on this list help you out. - Dov=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BF37AC.2F0AC200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank You for responding. I am using = Acrobat 4.0 on=20 windows 2000, Linotronic 300 v47.1 ppd l300_471.ppd, postscript level 1, = and a=20 composite. I have the same problem from windows 98 so I know it is not a = 2000=20 problem. I can print other files to this machine just not pdf files? = Thank You=20 for any help that you can have.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Dov = Isaacs
To: Eldad
Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com
Sent: Friday, November 26, 1999 = 1:01=20 AM
Subject: Re: [PDF] Problems = Printing PDF=20 files

At 11/25/99 01:40 PM , Eldad wrote:
I am having allot of trouble printing = PDF files=20 to a linotronic Rip 30 and a Linotronic 300 imagesetter. Does any = one have=20 any knowledge on this. I can give more details if anyone can help. = Thank=20 You, Matthew Scott

Quite frankly, just = telling us that=20 you "have a lot of
problems printing PDF files to a Linotronic Rip = 30 and=20 a
Linotronic 300 imagesetter" really doesn't give anyone
much to = go=20 on.

Platform, version of Acrobat files created on, = version
of=20 Acrobat printing from, particulars about files, printer
driver = &=20 versions, PPD files, etc. as well as the symptoms
of "a lot of = trouble"=20 would help participants on this
list help you=20 = out.

        -=20 Dov ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BF37AC.2F0AC200-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Nov-1999 9:44:30-GMT,2567;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA19489 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 02:44:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA05095; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 03:35:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 03:32:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA04882; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 03:32:40 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Problems Printing PDF files Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 09:32:28 -0000 Message-ID: <002701bf37f1$28a967a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <003c01bf37d6$4d9e1d00$156dfea9@ELDAD> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ But what about the symptoms? It is almost impossible to help with a PostScript printing problem without the detailed, exact, error message. Aandi -----Original Message----- Thank You for responding. I am using Acrobat 4.0 on windows 2000, Linotronic 300 v47.1 ppd l300_471.ppd, postscript level 1, and a composite. I have the same problem from windows 98 so I know it is not a 2000 problem. I can print other files to this machine just not pdf files? Thank You for any help that you can have. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dov Isaacs ... Quite frankly, just telling us that you "have a lot of problems printing PDF files to a Linotronic Rip 30 and a Linotronic 300 imagesetter" really doesn't give anyone much to go on. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Nov-1999 9:52:53-GMT,2641;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA19660 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 02:52:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA05082; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 03:35:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 03:32:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA04910; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 03:32:51 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: hevans@teal.csn.net Message-Id: Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 02:33:14 -0600 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Hugh Evans Subject: [PDF] Workflow / document archiving advice needed Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ My office is close to implementing a .pdf document archiving system for our Accounting Dept. Am looking at a software/hardware solution from a company called Doculex (http://www.doculex.com). Approximately 100 invoices, etc. a day will be scanned and a unique ID will be associated to the document- this ID will be saved with the transaction record in the database for retrieval purposes. What I really need to do now is research workflows for the above process... ie. how do others companies implement this process... there are plenty of ways to skin a cat.... but I am wary of going down the wrong path. Any advice, or links to web resources would be appreciated. Regards, Hugh Evans This Email is "Confidential" - the content of this Email and any attachments, if any - shall not be distributed beyond the intended recipient(s) without the specific authorization from the originator of the Email" ***************************************** What goes up, must come down. Ask any system administrator. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Nov-1999 12:18:44-GMT,2972;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA22009 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 05:18:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA13222; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 06:04:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 06:02:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA13102; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 06:02:25 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Fonts with Acrobat Install Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 12:02:18 -0000 Message-ID: <002c01bf3806$16f24a80$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19991125123405.009e4af0@pop.iglou.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > A (possible) feature request for later versions of Acrobat. > I seem to have > a full set of these fonts for each of Reader, Exchange and > Distiller. That > may be the result of various installs/uninstalls of the > different bits, so > the suggestion may in fact be pointless. But if it's normal > for each app > to maintain its own set of fonts, it seems to me that it'd > make sense to > allow the user who so wishes to set some sort of flag in each > of the apps > that says "Look in for your base fonts". I favour solutions which waste a little space rather than sharing components. Sharing Windows components is the single biggest cause of system instability - so much so that Microsoft now recommend including your own complete set of anything. Disk, after all, is cheap. Fonts are small. Time, fixing problems caused by moving stuff around unnecessarily, is very expensive. Here's a possible solution. Instead of calling the fonts really obvious things, give them scary sounding name like RdrFon32.sys, unique per product. Then nobody would be tempted to consolidate or tidy up... Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Nov-1999 12:55:34-GMT,3518;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA22591 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 05:55:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA15636; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 06:48:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 06:47:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA15556; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 06:47:04 -0600 Message-ID: <00e401bf380c$2c3f9270$156dfea9@ELDAD> From: "Eldad" To: Cc: References: <002701bf37f1$28a967a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Problems Printing PDF files Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 07:45:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ One of the most common errors is ERROR: undefined OFFENDING COMMAND: 204.959 6.164 STACK:-savelevel- also i get the message ERROR typecheck OFFENDING COMMAND: put. Also sometimes just blank film comes out with no message. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aandi Inston" To: Sent: Friday, November 26, 1999 4:32 AM Subject: RE: [PDF] Problems Printing PDF files > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > But what about the symptoms? It is almost impossible to help > with a PostScript printing problem without the detailed, exact, > error message. > > Aandi > > -----Original Message----- > Thank You for responding. I am using Acrobat 4.0 on windows 2000, Linotronic > 300 v47.1 ppd l300_471.ppd, postscript level 1, and a composite. I have the > same problem from windows 98 so I know it is not a 2000 problem. I can print > other files to this machine just not pdf files? Thank You for any help that > you can have. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dov Isaacs > ... > Quite frankly, just telling us that you "have a lot of > problems printing PDF files to a Linotronic Rip 30 and a > Linotronic 300 imagesetter" really doesn't give anyone > much to go on. > > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Nov-1999 13:34:39-GMT,2844;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA23290 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 06:34:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA16885; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 07:08:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 07:06:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA16768; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 07:06:23 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Problems Printing PDF files Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 13:06:14 -0000 Message-ID: <003001bf380f$05cdc6e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <00e401bf380c$2c3f9270$156dfea9@ELDAD> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > One of the most common errors is ERROR: undefined OFFENDING COMMAND: > 204.959 6.164 STACK:-savelevel- also i get the message ERROR > typecheck > OFFENDING COMMAND: put. Also sometimes just blank film comes > out with no message. An "undefined" error like this basically means the PostScript is wrong - damaged or corrupt. Sometimes this is caused by the driver, sometimes by the communications to the output device. In some cases it can also be caused by a damaged EPS, but that is not a possibility when printing from Acrobat. A useful piece of information in this case is how consistent the error is. Suppose you open the same file and try to print five times with no changes. Do you get exactly the same symptoms - exactly, including all parts of the message and numbers - or different each time, sometimes working. If it is consistent, we work back towards the driver or application. If it is inconsistent, it is almost always beyond that, perhaps in the communication channels. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Nov-1999 17:18:23-GMT,2561;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27354 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 10:18:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA32468; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:09:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:05:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA32204; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:05:03 -0600 X-Sender: weller@pop3.axion.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 09:05:54 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: weller@axion.net (Angus Weller) Subject: Re: [PDF] Querry about Links Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > The problem is, we need to make a link from a certain article of one > PDF file to the other PDF file where the continuation is. I do know > that Acrobat can create a link from one file to the other but only to > open that file and not to link to a certain topic within that opened > file. The linking between these files is very simple: using the Link Tool, use open file, go to view and the task is accomplished,t o return to the former file either use the back button or if the file has moved to the next page build in another link to the position you wish to return to. You can also set the scale you wish the reader to view the file including "inherit scale". Angus ************************************* Angus Weller 2960 Cosgrove Crescent, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, V9S 3P8 Tel: (250) 729-7292 e-mail: weller@axion.net or travel-media@bc1.com Internet store: www.travel-media.com ************************************* ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Nov-1999 6:02:35-GMT,4435;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA10760 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 23:02:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA12720; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 23:54:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 26 Nov 1999 23:47:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA12250; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 23:47:13 -0600 From: joey_reyes@inod.com Message-Id: <9911279436.AA943681465@atrain.inod.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.30.00.7 Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 13:43:40 -0500 To: Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] Querry about Links MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Angus, Thanks for the information. Here's another problem of mine that I hope somebody out there can help me out. Let us say that I did made the link from Example1.pdf to Example 2.pdf and have applied the goto view to Example2.pdf. Since my PDF files are in a newspaper format. What if, there is another article from Example1.pdf that again is being continued on Example2.pdf. So, again, I have to make a link from Example1.pdf to Example2.pdf. But if I applied the goto view option in Example2.pdf, for sure it will change. And if I click on the first link that I made, it will open the said file (Example2.pdf) but will not go to its continuation article on that page. Is this possible? Do I have another option on doing this? Any plug-ins around? Thank you very much again in advance. And more power to all the subscriber of PDFZone. Joey Reyes Innodata Phils. Technical Support Group E-mail: joey_reyes@inod.com ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: [PDF] Querry about Links Author: at INTERNET Date: 11/26/99 9:05 AM The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > The problem is, we need to make a link from a certain article of one > PDF file to the other PDF file where the continuation is. I do know > that Acrobat can create a link from one file to the other but only to > open that file and not to link to a certain topic within that opened > file. The linking between these files is very simple: using the Link Tool, use open file, go to view and the task is accomplished,t o return to the former file either use the back button or if the file has moved to the next page build in another link to the position you wish to return to. You can also set the scale you wish the reader to view the file including "inherit scale". Angus ************************************* Angus Weller 2960 Cosgrove Crescent, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, V9S 3P8 Tel: (250) 729-7292 e-mail: weller@axion.net or travel-media@bc1.com Internet store: www.travel-media.com ************************************* ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Nov-1999 7:49:41-GMT,4383;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA13034 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 00:49:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA19217; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 01:43:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 01:42:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA19131; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 01:42:02 -0600 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991127022301.01743ac0@dionis.com> X-Sender: m2456601@mail.9netave.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 02:39:21 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel-Ari Feinberg Subject: [PDF] Querry about Links Cc: joey_reyes@inod.com In-Reply-To: <199911270547.XAA12276@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Joey, I am not sure if I misunderstand you or if you misunderstand links. Let's say a link (formally known as a link annotation) exists in file1.pdf. It points to a certain view in file2.pdf. The link in file1.pdf contains an element that specifies the file that is pointed to, which in this case is file2.pdf. The link also contains elements that specify the view in that file, which could be a page number, a scale factor to show that page with, and a position on the page to show. All of this data is contained inside the link. You can have another link in file1.pdf that also points to file2.pdf, but points to a different page in file2.pdf. Or, you can have yet another link in file1.pdf that points to the same page of file2.pdf but points to a different place on that page. Finally, you can have a link in file3.pdf that points to a different (or same) page of file2.pdf. Each of these links stores their information internally, and is unaffected by changes made in the other links. Having said this, there is one exception: named destinations. A link can specify a file (e.g. file2.pdf) and a named destination (e.g. Article5). In this case, the _destination_ file (file2.pdf) contains a list of named destinations paired with their destinations. So, when you click on the link in file1.pdf, Acrobat opens file2.pdf and looks in file2.pdf for the definition of the Article5 named destination. Once Acrobat determines that the named destination Article5 points to page 10, it will jump to page 10. So, any link that jumps to the named destination Article5 in file2.pdf will end up on page 10 of file2.pdf. If you change the definition of the named destination Article5 in file2.pdf to point to page 15, every link that uses that named destination in file2.pdf will now go to page 15. However, any link that does not use a named destination and specifies a page number of 10 in file2.pdf will still go to page 10. If you are creating links manually in Acrobat, you are not creating links with named destinations, so the previous paragraph applies to you but not this paragraph. As a side note, if the named destination Article5 is not defined in file2.pdf, Acrobat will open file2.pdf when you click the link, and it will leave file2.pdf open to page 1 without reporting an error, although this is an error unless you coincidentally intended to go to page 1. For more on this phenomenon, see: http://www.dionis.com/tutorials/goodlink.html I hope this makes sense, and if I have totally misunderstood your question, I apologize. Best Regards, Dan-Ari Feinberg Dionis ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Nov-1999 17:24:40-GMT,4840;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA22256 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 10:24:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA18353; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 11:13:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 11:07:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA18013; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 11:07:21 -0600 Message-ID: <384010B7.95CC5847@dconstructs.com> Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 12:11:27 -0500 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Workflow / document archiving advice needed References: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------DA0375821BC83B251D63FDE2" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------DA0375821BC83B251D63FDE2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The real key to building a good workflow system is doing a tech audit to determine how information moves through a company. Once you know this, then cost-effective tech can be applied to solve the problem. Doculex looks fine for the input part of the process but the link from their system to a database has not been defined. IE Will the Doculex system generate tab or CSV output that can be captured by a database and has or can the database be configured to pull that information in are things that must be resolved prior to implementing any kind of a system, particularly one as sophisticated as this. HTH Bob Moran Hugh Evans wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > My office is close to implementing a .pdf document archiving system > for our Accounting Dept. Am looking at a software/hardware solution > from a company called Doculex (http://www.doculex.com). Approximately > 100 invoices, etc. a day will be scanned and a unique ID will be > associated to the document- this ID will be saved with the > transaction record in the database for retrieval purposes. What I > really need to do now is research workflows for the above process... > ie. how do others companies implement this process... there are > plenty of ways to skin a cat.... but I am wary of going down the > wrong path. Any advice, or links to web resources would be > appreciated. > > Regards, > Hugh Evans > > This Email is "Confidential" - the content of this Email and any > attachments, if any - shall not be distributed beyond the intended > recipient(s) without the specific authorization from the originator > of the Email" > > ***************************************** > What goes up, must come down. 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Moran note:"Confusion is a misapprhension of a higher order" - Henry Miller x-mozilla-cpt:;1 fn:Robert Moran end:vcard --------------DA0375821BC83B251D63FDE2-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Nov-1999 19:05:11-GMT,2204;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA24036 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 12:05:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA24678; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 12:56:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 27 Nov 1999 12:52:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA24392; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 12:52:50 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991127135958.009eb370@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 13:59:58 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Fonts with Acrobat Install In-Reply-To: <002c01bf3806$16f24a80$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: <3.0.5.32.19991125123405.009e4af0@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >I favour solutions which waste a little space rather than >sharing components. Sharing Windows components is the single >biggest cause of system instability - Point taken. I'm sitting down and shutting up now. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Nov-1999 16:09:59-GMT,2679;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15272 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 09:09:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA28503; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 10:01:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 09:53:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA27823; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 09:53:09 -0600 Message-ID: <384150DB.2D00B5D8@interlog.com> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 10:57:14 -0500 From: Brian Dench X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Quark to PDF stacking error X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199911270547.XAA12276@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > One of the most common errors is ERROR: undefined > .OFFENDING COMMAND:...STACK:-savelevel- ..... don't know enough to tell you why this happens, but I can tell you one way to make a stacking error go away: re-do or re-arrange the levels on the page that "flushes" the pdf job (love that word). e.g. Bring the text block(s) forward, usually. Or push a background colour block back. Lines often cause this problem. One time, it was a runaround box I had set up with the odd-shape polygon picture tool. When I re-sequenced the order of the objects, the stacking error went away and the pdf worked fine. Stacking seems to have something to do with the layering - maybe something in the "stack" isn't clear enough for pdf to do its thing - give every object a defined place in the stack by placing it and not leaving some of them untouched. Defining the layers seems to clear the stacking error away. The offending pages print fine, usually, but won't distil. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Nov-1999 18:02:50-GMT,4002;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17255 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 11:02:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02660; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 11:54:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 11:49:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02414; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 11:49:37 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Quark to PDF stacking error Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 17:49:27 -0000 Message-ID: <000001bf39c8$eb1f4240$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <384150DB.2D00B5D8@interlog.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > One of the most common errors is ERROR: undefined > > .OFFENDING COMMAND:...STACK:-savelevel- ..... > > don't know enough to tell you why this happens, but I can tell > you one way to make a stacking error go away: re-do or > re-arrange the levels on the page that "flushes" the pdf job > (love that word). > > e.g. Bring the text block(s) forward, usually. > Or push a background colour block back. Lines often cause > this problem. > > One time, it was a runaround box I had set up with the odd-shape > polygon picture tool. When I re-sequenced the order of the > objects, the stacking error went away and the pdf worked fine. > > Stacking seems to have something to do with the layering - > maybe something in the "stack" isn't clear enough for pdf to do its > thing - give every object a defined place in the stack by placing it > and not leaving some of them untouched. Defining the layers seems > to clear the stacking error away. > > The offending pages print fine, usually, but won't distil. I like your logic, but I have to say, this isn't a stacking error. Stack isn't even part of the error, it is a standard part of the message, and appears for every error. The error is "undefined" and means "I don't understand that". What, exactly, PostScript doesn't understand, is given as the "offending command" (usually, unless the word is "get"). The "stack" is the context, what PostScript was doing. In this case no help. The offending command, then, is the key thing, and falls into two main categories: 1. Words which some printers understand but which this one (or distiller doesn't) 2. Nonsense, meaning the PostScript is damaged or otherwise useless. Sometimes it is damaged after creation by a bad or wrongly set up communications channel. The most common cause of undefined from XPress, in the second category, is bad graphics. Try a new copy of the document without graphics, and add them one at a time (or in groups). Unfortunately, some bad graphics can have unpredictable, knock-on effects which show up later (or not at all) making it hard to track down. More on PostScript errors: http://www.quite.com/ps/errors.htm. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Nov-1999 19:13:59-GMT,2823;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA18624 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:13:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07366; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 13:05:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 13:02:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07112; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 13:02:16 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: shell18.ba.best.com: fastio owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 11:02:13 -0800 (PST) From: Sam Ohzawa X-Sender: fastio@shell18.ba.best.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Bookmarks and annotations in Japanese on English Windows Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is it at all possible to display bookmarks and annotations in Japanese with Acrobat Reader 4.0x on the English version of Windows 95/98/NT? Freely downloadable Asian Font packs from the Adobe site take care of Japanese/Chinese/Korean languages for page contents in such a setup without native language OSes. However, bookmarks and annotations seem to require system-level font support for Asian languages. Is this the case? I have Microsoft Global IME with fonts installed for Japanese on this system, which installs at least one system-level Japanese font (msgothic.ttf). Both InternetExplorer and Netscape Navigator can use this font for displaying Japanese pages for HTML. So, it seems technically possible for Acrobat Reader to take advantage of this font. If Netscape can, why not Adobe Acrobat? Is there any Prefereces/language/font setting I am missing for Acrobat Reader 4.05? MacOS 8.6(English) with Japanese Language Kit can display bookmarks and annotations in Japanese just fine. Thanks for any info. Sam Ohzawa - ClibPDF - TIFF2PDF - FastIO Systems - www.fastio.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Nov-1999 19:57:11-GMT,3144;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19398 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:57:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09810; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 13:50:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 13:48:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09584; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 13:48:13 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:46:23 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] Best way to batch-PDFify folders of bitmaps on Linux? Cc: chris@ncafe.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA09580 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 10:36 AM -0700 11/28/99, Chris Beaumont wrote: >I'm working on a project for my employer with some legacy documents >(math notes) that are currently contained in JPG format, I want to >go to individual PDF files, each representing a directory full of >content. (one math lecture, typically with lots of semi-scribbled >notes..) Ideally I'd like this app to be scriptable under Unix >(actually Debian Linux). I can think of three options off the top of my head 1) ImageMagick - . callable from C, C++, Java, Perl, Python or any cmd-line. pre-installed on most Linux installations 2) PDFLib - . callable from C, C++, VB, Java, Perl, and Python. 3) CLibPDF - callable from C and C++. Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Nov-1999 20:01:58-GMT,3095;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA19463 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 13:01:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09812; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 13:50:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 13:48:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09557; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 13:48:08 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:41:01 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] Bookmarks and annotations in Japanese on English Windows Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA09553 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 11:02 AM -0800 11/28/99, Sam Ohzawa wrote: >Is it at all possible to display bookmarks and annotations in >Japanese with Acrobat Reader 4.0x on the English version of Windows >95/98/NT? AFAIK, if the bookmarks and annotations are stored as Unicode AND the you are using a standard NT installation with it's complement of Unicode fonts - then YES, you should be able to see them on English NT. No way to view them, AFAIK, on Win9x English, however. >However, bookmarks and >annotations seem to require system-level font support for Asian >languages. Is this the case? Yes, because you can't set the font family for those things - they use the "system font" (or something to that effect). Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Nov-1999 14:15:47-GMT,4021;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA09552 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:15:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA04662; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:58:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:55:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA04490; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:55:32 -0600 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:54:04 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Problems Printing PDF files From: Al Manson To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <009201bf378d$c8471000$156dfea9@ELDAD> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3026706844_141132_MIME_Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3026706844_141132_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I would recommend that you replace the Level 1 RIP30. PDF uses too many Level 2 operators to be usable on an old rip. I've fought that battle and it isn't any fun. -- Al Manson DCS Inc. 2500 Metro Blvd. St. Louis, Mo 63043 (314) 692-4447 (800) 537-5749 amanson@dcspremedia.com From: "Eldad" Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 16:40:59 -0500 To: Subject: [PDF] Problems Printing PDF files I am having allot of trouble printing PDF files to a linotronic Rip 30 and a Linotronic 300 imagesetter. Does any one have any knowledge on this. I can give more details if anyone can help. Thank You, Matthew Scott --MS_Mac_OE_3026706844_141132_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [PDF] Problems Printing PDF files I would recommend that  you replace the Level 1 RIP30.  PDF uses = too many Level 2 operators to be usable on an old rip.  I've fought tha= t battle and it isn't any fun.

--

Al Manson
DCS Inc.
2500 Metro Blvd.
St. Louis, Mo  63043

(314) 692-4447
(800) 537-5749

amanson@dcspremedia.com

From: "Eldad" <parchmentpress@worldnet.att.= net>
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Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 16:40:59 -0500
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Subject: [PDF] Problems Printing PDF files


I am having allot of trouble = printing PDF files to a linotronic Rip 30 and a Linotronic 300 imagesetter. = Does any one have any knowledge on this. I can give more details if anyone c= an help. Thank You, Matthew Scott


--MS_Mac_OE_3026706844_141132_MIME_Part-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Nov-1999 19:57:07-GMT,5606;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19023 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:57:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01936; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:38:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:33:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01359; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:33:11 -0600 Message-ID: <002a01bf3aa0$60341e70$156dfea9@ELDAD> From: "Eldad" To: References: Subject: Re: [PDF] Problems Printing PDF files Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:31:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01BF3A76.5CB2B1F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BF3A76.5CB2B1F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [PDF] Problems Printing PDF filesWould a RIP 50 do the trick? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Al Manson=20 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com=20 Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 7:54 AM Subject: Re: [PDF] Problems Printing PDF files I would recommend that you replace the Level 1 RIP30. PDF uses too = many Level 2 operators to be usable on an old rip. I've fought that = battle and it isn't any fun. --=20 Al Manson DCS Inc. 2500 Metro Blvd. St. Louis, Mo 63043 (314) 692-4447 (800) 537-5749 amanson@dcspremedia.com=20 From: "Eldad" Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 16:40:59 -0500 To: Subject: [PDF] Problems Printing PDF files I am having allot of trouble printing PDF files to a linotronic Rip = 30 and a Linotronic 300 imagesetter. Does any one have any knowledge on = this. I can give more details if anyone can help. Thank You, Matthew = Scott ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BF3A76.5CB2B1F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [PDF] Problems Printing PDF files
Would a RIP 50 do the = trick?
----- Original Message -----
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To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com
Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 = 7:54=20 AM
Subject: Re: [PDF] Problems = Printing PDF=20 files

I would recommend that  you replace the Level 1 = RIP30.=20  PDF uses too many Level 2 operators to be usable on an old rip.=20  I've fought that battle and it isn't any fun.

--

Al=20 Manson
DCS Inc.
2500 Metro Blvd.
St. = Louis,=20 Mo  63043

(314) 692-4447
(800) 537-5749

amanson@dcspremedia.com =

From: "Eldad" <parchmentpress@worldnet.a= tt.net>
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Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 16:40:59=20 -0500
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Subject: = [PDF]=20 Problems Printing PDF files


I am having allot of = trouble=20 printing PDF files to a linotronic Rip 30 and a Linotronic 300 = imagesetter.=20 Does any one have any knowledge on this. I can give more details if = anyone=20 can help. Thank You, Matthew=20 Scott


------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BF3A76.5CB2B1F0-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Nov-1999 20:41:53-GMT,2536;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA20229 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:41:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA06904; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:25:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:23:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06427; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:23:03 -0600 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991129152133.00981e10@mail.i95.net> X-Sender: dcbiker@mail.i95.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 15:23:41 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Harold Goldstein Subject: [PDF] acrobat 4 oddities Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ couple of pedestrian questions: -bookmarks and thumbnails are supposed to float and then be able to re-dock in the navigation window. i have been unable to get them to re-dock ... they just sit there as separate windows. any secret to this? -there is supposed to be an annotations tab in the navigation window ... it doesn't appear for me even though there are annotations in the pdf ... anything special to get that to appear? thanks harold ... ------------------------------------------------------------ Harold Goldstein - dcbiker@goldray.com ~~ ,__o ~^^ Goldray Consulting: http://goldray.com/ ~_-\ < , ~ o \ Web Development/Internet Training (*)/ (*) ~ / { \ Save The Apes: http://biosynergy.org/bushmeat/ / { o} BIGFACE!?#%! http://bigface.com/ -- you will be released ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Nov-1999 20:51:38-GMT,2605;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA20469 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:51:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08268; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:39:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:37:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08106; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:37:14 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: sjveloff@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19991129152133.00981e10@mail.i95.net> References: <4.2.0.58.19991129152133.00981e10@mail.i95.net> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:37:09 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Veloff Subject: Re: [PDF] acrobat 4 oddities Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >couple of pedestrian questions: > >-bookmarks and thumbnails are supposed to float and then be able to >re-dock in the navigation window. i have been unable to get them to >re-dock ... they just sit there as separate windows. any secret to >this? Sort of. Just click on the "Bookmarks" tab itself and drag it back into the left window. You should see the left window (in the open PDF) highlight in way. >-there is supposed to be an annotations tab in the navigation window >... it doesn't appear for me even though there are annotations in >the pdf ... anything special to get that to appear? Not sure about that one. I see the Annotations window just fine. Are you able to make it shown by selecting "Show Annotations" from the "Window" menu? ----------------------------- Steve Veloff sjveloff@pdfzone.com http://www.pdfzone.com/ PDFzone.com - Web Development ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Nov-1999 17:21:04-GMT,2030;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18829 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 10:21:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25985; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:06:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:01:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25545; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:01:53 -0600 Message-ID: From: Justin Fields To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Preventing Saving of PDFs Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:08:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ The company I work for is looking for a method of preventing people from saving PDF files that are on our extranet. Our goal is to have the users go to the web site each time they want to view a file, so that we can make sure they see the most current version. Has anyone successfully implemented a system like what I am describing? Thanks! Justin D. Fields jfields@garsonlaw.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Nov-1999 17:52:18-GMT,1984;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19698 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 10:52:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA29973; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:44:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:42:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA29778; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:42:58 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 09:18:17 -0800 From: John D Fisk To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Wordperfect 6.1 Acrobat problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello, I am using Acrobat 4.0. I am trying to distill a Wordperfect 6.1 document. Wordperfect gives me an error when I try to use the Distiller. Then, I figured I could print the Wordperfect file to a Postscript file and then try to distill the document. However, there is no print to file option on any of my available printers through Wordperfect 6.1. What can I do about this? Thanx! ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Nov-1999 18:13:31-GMT,3432;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA20320 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:13:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA31958; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:02:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:00:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA31794; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:00:51 -0600 Message-ID: <003301bf3b5c$cc97e580$cb11d2ab@aatd.eustis.army.mil> From: "Paul Redden" To: References: Subject: Re: [PDF] Preventing Saving of PDFs Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:00:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I would be interested in doing this also but I think it would be hard to do. Especially since the file is automatically saved to their machine when they view it. I suppose that you could have a plug-in to the reader that would prevent the file from being saved and/or delete the temperary files. But how do you make sure they use that plug in? Is there a way to write a Java Script or some such that would automatically check the web for updates each time the file is opened? Paul Redden http://www.digital-antiquities.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Fields" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 12:08 PM Subject: [PDF] Preventing Saving of PDFs > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > The company I work for is looking for a method of preventing people from > saving PDF files that are on our extranet. Our goal is to have the users go > to the web site each time they want to view a file, so that we can make sure > they see the most current version. Has anyone successfully implemented a > system like what I am describing? Thanks! > > Justin D. Fields > jfields@garsonlaw.com > > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Nov-1999 18:26:42-GMT,4163;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA20604 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:26:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00656; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:16:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:13:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA00313; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:13:40 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Balaji, V." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Preventing Saving of PDFs Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 18:13:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I would very much like such a solution. If you find an answer, could you please make sure to post the script or a workaround. Balaji > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Redden [SMTP:redden@inna.net] > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 1:00 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Preventing Saving of PDFs > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > I would be interested in doing this also but I think it would be hard to > do. > Especially since the file is automatically saved to their machine when > they > view it. I suppose that you could have a plug-in to the reader that would > prevent the file from being saved and/or delete the temperary files. But > how do you make sure they use that plug in? > > Is there a way to write a Java Script or some such that would > automatically > check the web for updates each time the file is opened? > > Paul Redden > http://www.digital-antiquities.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Justin Fields" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 12:08 PM > Subject: [PDF] Preventing Saving of PDFs > > > > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > The company I work for is looking for a method of preventing people from > > saving PDF files that are on our extranet. Our goal is to have the users > go > > to the web site each time they want to view a file, so that we can make > sure > > they see the most current version. Has anyone successfully implemented a > > system like what I am describing? Thanks! > > > > Justin D. Fields > > jfields@garsonlaw.com > > > > > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on > improving > the > > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > > > > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving > the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Nov-1999 18:47:30-GMT,2922;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18154 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 11:47:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05723; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:41:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:38:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05446; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:38:25 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: webweavr@shell11.ba.best.com Message-Id: Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 10:36:32 -0700 To: pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com From: Chris Beaumont Subject: [PDF] Best way to batch-PDFify folders of bitmaps on Linux? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi! Here's an interesting problem.. I'm working on a project for my employer with some legacy documents (math notes) that are currently contained in JPG format, I want to go to individual PDF files, each representing a directory full of content. (one math lecture, typically with lots of semi-scribbled notes..) Ideally I'd like this app to be scriptable under Unix (actually Debian Linux). I can set up a pipe with the pbmplus utilities to convert the JPEG files to TIFF or whatever is needed.. I suppose, but what's the best way to do the PDF conversion? The goal is to have the PDF files to be as small as possible..(they will be downloaded by students, frequently modem-using students) I realize that's probably semi-difficult with bitmaps, so its a lower priority than just getting them into PDF. The ability to add some meta - information would be nice.. (speaker, title of the individual class lecture) but not *absolutely* essential.. I wont need links or really, any frills at all, the goal is simply to enable these folders of bitmap math notes to be printed as a group easily.. Any ideas? Thank you! Chris chris@ncafe.com PGP Key Signature: (key available at the standard keyservers) ABF3 22E7 EFA6 FACD 4A33 9657 46D3 2DEE 54A4 6667 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Nov-1999 18:40:07-GMT,3460;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA20979 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:40:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02244; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:31:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:29:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02015; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:29:51 -0600 Message-ID: From: Justin Fields To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Preventing Saving of PDFs Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:36:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I've gotten a feedback from a number of people about my question indicating that it would be difficult to enforce. I completely understand that, as my goals are generally contrary to the open way in which the file system works. All I am looking for something to eliminate casual copy of the files. A determined person could get them, but that isn't my concern. Any system requiring a reasonable amount of knowledge and effort to circumvent would be sufficient. Thanks. Justin __________________________________________________________________ I would be interested in doing this also but I think it would be hard to do. Especially since the file is automatically saved to their machine when they view it. I suppose that you could have a plug-in to the reader that would prevent the file from being saved and/or delete the temperary files. But how do you make sure they use that plug in? Is there a way to write a Java Script or some such that would automatically check the web for updates each time the file is opened? Paul Redden http://www.digital-antiquities.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Fields" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 12:08 PM Subject: [PDF] Preventing Saving of PDFs > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > The company I work for is looking for a method of preventing people from > saving PDF files that are on our extranet. Our goal is to have the users go > to the web site each time they want to view a file, so that we can make sure > they see the most current version. Has anyone successfully implemented a > system like what I am describing? Thanks! > > Justin D. Fields > jfields@garsonlaw.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Nov-1999 18:40:40-GMT,2893;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA20991 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:40:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01899; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:28:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:27:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA01737; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:27:11 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mgavin_list@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:22:33 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mark Gavin Subject: Re: [PDF] Preventing Saving of PDFs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >The company I work for is looking for a method of preventing people from >saving PDF files that are on our extranet. Our goal is to have the users go >to the web site each time they want to view a file, so that we can make sure >they see the most current version. Has anyone successfully implemented a >system like what I am describing? Thanks! > >Justin D. Fields >jfields@garsonlaw.com > PageVault from Authentica has this capability. PageVault stores the keys for the document on a secure server. The user must access the server to get the keys to view the document. Assuming the user is authorized to view the document; all of the security works transparently. PageVault will also allow you to disable or enable a document at any time using a variety of access policies. More info can be found at http://www.authentica.com Mark Gavin Vice President, Software Development Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 http://www.digapp.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Nov-1999 18:45:25-GMT,2765;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21085 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:45:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02287; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:31:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:29:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02042; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:29:53 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991130133708.009f5c50@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:37:08 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Preventing Saving of PDFs In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >The company I work for is looking for a method of preventing people from >saving PDF files that are on our extranet. Our goal is to have the users go >to the web site each time they want to view a file, so that we can make sure >they see the most current version. Has anyone successfully implemented a Bear in mind that a lot of people seem to have difficulties viewing PDFs within browsers. This may not be something you want to force them into doing. But what if you were to publish not the PDFs themselves but a PDF that's an index to the available PDFs? Each of the items in the index is a URL link to the actual location of the PDF on your site. Seems as though it would work. Appears to work here, but it's hard to say ... mine's one of the rigs where MSIE and PDFs don't get on well. It downloads but shows me a blank page. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Nov-1999 21:02:00-GMT,2855;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24641 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:01:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13477; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:45:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:38:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA12839; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:38:28 -0600 Message-ID: <8F7C09244A3AD31190F30000E885F972016F48@ADMINSERVER> From: "E. Suskic" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Wordperfect 6.1 Acrobat problems Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 07:43:34 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ You need to set up a printer to print to file in Windows. The Adobe printer driver that comes with Acrobat should do the trick. -----Original Message----- From: John D Fisk [mailto:FISKJD@nv.doe.gov] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 4:18 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Wordperfect 6.1 Acrobat problems The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello, I am using Acrobat 4.0. I am trying to distill a Wordperfect 6.1 document. Wordperfect gives me an error when I try to use the Distiller. Then, I figured I could print the Wordperfect file to a Postscript file and then try to distill the document. However, there is no print to file option on any of my available printers through Wordperfect 6.1. What can I do about this? Thanx! ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Nov-1999 21:02:00-GMT,2321;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24642 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:01:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13797; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:47:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:46:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13648; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:46:08 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Wordperfect 6.1 Acrobat problems Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:45:50 -0000 Message-ID: <005001bf3b73$e31efd40$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I am using Acrobat 4.0. I am trying to distill a Wordperfect > 6.1 document. > Wordperfect gives me an error when I try to use the Distiller. Then, I > figured I could print the Wordperfect file to a Postscript > file and then try to > distill the document. However, there is no print to file > option on any of my > available printers through Wordperfect 6.1. What can I do about this? Go into the Printers control panel and set a port of FILE: for the desired printer. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Nov-1999 21:34:20-GMT,3010;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25562 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:34:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA17194; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:21:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:20:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA17018; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:20:08 -0600 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991130161646.009a1a20@mail.i95.net> X-Sender: dcbiker@mail.i95.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 16:20:39 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Harold Goldstein Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for November-30-99 [V2 #674] Cc: sjveloff@pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <199911302038.OAA12858@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >- -there is supposed to be an annotations tab in the navigation window ... it >doesn't appear for me even though there are annotations in the pdf ... >anything special to get that to appear? >Not sure about that one. I see the Annotations window just fine. >Are you able to make it shown by selecting "Show Annotations" from >the "Window" menu? not only is SHOW ANNOTATIONS not an option in the window menu but i now notice that several TOOL BUTTONS ... notably the PENCIL and HIGHLIGHT TEXT buttons are not in my tool bar and none of my additional ANNOTATION OPTIONS from that button are available. i don't recall any options on install ... perhaps i got an incomplete version?? (oh, thanks for the docking hint ... i was trying to dock with the window name area and not the folder .. works fine) harold ... ------------------------------------------------------------ Harold Goldstein - dcbiker@goldray.com ~~ ,__o ~^^ Goldray Consulting: http://goldray.com/ ~_-\ < , ~ o \ Web Development/Internet Training (*)/ (*) ~ / { \ Save The Apes: http://biosynergy.org/bushmeat/ / { o} BIGFACE!?#%! http://bigface.com/ -- you will be released ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Nov-1999 21:37:53-GMT,1822;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25638 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:37:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA17846; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:29:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:27:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA17736; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:27:38 -0600 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 16:27:14 -0500 From: marano@ICD.Teradyne.COM (Rosemary Marano (ICD Writers)) Message-Id: <199911302127.QAA24996@capstan.icd.teradyne.com> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Copying and Pasting in UNIX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-MD5: OeZxcqQ5vAeFJ0qmFhp8pw== Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Does anyone know how to paste text from the Reader into a text editor in UNIX without losing all the carriage returns? Rosemary Marano Teradyne, Inc. Boston, MA ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Nov-1999 21:59:14-GMT,2389;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA26235 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:59:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA19612; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:49:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:47:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19429; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:47:40 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for November-30-99 [V2 #674] Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 21:47:21 -0000 Message-ID: <005501bf3b7c$7bced800$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19991130161646.009a1a20@mail.i95.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > not only is SHOW ANNOTATIONS not an option in the window menu > but i now > notice that several TOOL BUTTONS ... notably the PENCIL and > HIGHLIGHT TEXT > buttons are not in my tool bar and none of my additional > ANNOTATION OPTIONS > from that button are available. Double check - are you familiar with the fold out button idea? At least two-thirds of the tools will be missing. So, fold out each tool in turn to be sure. If they really are missing, you probably do have a missing plug-in. Try reinstalling. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Nov-1999 22:01:06-GMT,2820;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26268 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:01:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA19864; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:52:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:51:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19776; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:51:10 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: sjveloff@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19991130161646.009a1a20@mail.i95.net> References: <4.2.0.58.19991130161646.009a1a20@mail.i95.net> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:51:08 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Veloff Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest - showing annotations Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >>Not sure about that one. I see the Annotations window just fine. >>Are you able to make it shown by selecting "Show Annotations" from >>the "Window" menu? > >not only is SHOW ANNOTATIONS not an option in the window menu but i >now notice that several TOOL BUTTONS ... notably the PENCIL and >HIGHLIGHT TEXT buttons are not in my tool bar and none of my >additional ANNOTATION OPTIONS from that button are available. > >i don't recall any options on install ... perhaps i got an >incomplete version?? You do have Adobe Acrobat (the full commercial version), yes? Not just Adobe Acrobat Reader? I would reinstall Acrobat from your CD if those menus don't even exist in Acrobat (the full version, not Reader). If you have Acrobat and Reader installed on the same computer, it will open PDF files with the last one installed. You would have to start up Adobe Acrobat before double clicking on PDFs or open them from within Acrobat (File -> Open). ----------------------------- Steve Veloff sjveloff@pdfzone.com http://www.pdfzone.com/ PDFzone.com - Web Development ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Nov-1999 23:10:29-GMT,2187;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28205 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 16:10:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25778; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 17:00:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 16:58:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA25544; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 16:58:08 -0600 From: lvincent@uclink4.berkeley.edu Message-ID: <384448FC.6B24@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:00:41 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] browser compatability issues Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ My department created some pdf files with Acrobat 3 and put them on our NT web server. Several people on our NT network reported being unable to view the pdf files in Netscape, but no problem using IE. We also have a UNIX web server, and as a test I uploaded a couple of the pdf files to that server. The people who had experienced the Netscape/NT problem were able to view the files from UNIX. Can anyone suggest an explanation for this? Also, management here has heard that we can optimize pdf files for IE. If true, what are the options for this? Thanks! ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Nov-1999 23:38:23-GMT,2144;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28929 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 16:38:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27553; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 17:27:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 17:26:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27455; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 17:26:18 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] browser compatability issues Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:25:58 -0000 Message-ID: <006201bf3b8a$41cddf80$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <384448FC.6B24@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Also, management here has heard that we can optimize pdf files for IE. > If true, what are the options for this? Thanks! There is nothing special for IE, but you should be optimizing ALL your PDF files served from the web. Just the usual way - through Save as or batch actions, or Distiller 4.0. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Dec-1999 3:55:31-GMT,1962;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA05082 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:55:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA10248; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 21:39:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 30 Nov 1999 21:35:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA10014; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 21:35:31 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: hevans@teal.csn.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.0.58.19991130161646.009a1a20@mail.i95.net> <4.2.0.58.19991130161646.009a1a20@mail.i95.net> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:34:56 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Hugh Evans Subject: [PDF] HP-UNIX & PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is there a solution for creating .PDF files on an HP-Unix machine.Currently, my reports are spooled to a hold file and then spooled to the printer. Any suggestions or pointers to solutions would be appreciated. Regards, Hugh Evans ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Dec-1999 13:57:35-GMT,1817;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA17034 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 06:57:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA09490; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 07:14:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Dec 1999 07:11:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA09328; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 07:11:23 -0600 Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 08:11:00 -0500 From: marano@ICD.Teradyne.COM (Rosemary Marano (ICD Writers)) Message-Id: <199912011311.IAA25454@capstan.icd.teradyne.com> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Copying and Pasting in UNIX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-MD5: OeZxcqQ5vAeFJ0qmFhp8pw== Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Does anyone know how to paste text from the Reader into a text editor in UNIX without losing all the carriage returns? Rosemary Marano Teradyne, Inc. Boston, MA ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Dec-1999 19:05:49-GMT,2633;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA25302 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 12:05:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02977; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 12:31:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Dec 1999 12:26:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02367; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 12:26:05 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19991201132239.006f8edc@po3.bbn.com> X-Sender: smcnamar@po3.bbn.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 13:22:39 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Shaun McNamara Subject: Re: [PDF] HP-UNIX & PDF In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.0.58.19991130161646.009a1a20@mail.i95.net> <4.2.0.58.19991130161646.009a1a20@mail.i95.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Try www.sanface.com At 08:34 PM 11/30/1999 -0700, you wrote: > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >Is there a solution for creating .PDF files on an HP-Unix >machine.Currently, my reports are spooled to a hold file and then spooled >to the printer. Any suggestions or pointers to solutions would be >appreciated. > >Regards, >Hugh Evans > >___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the >speed of your PDF JavaScript. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Dec-1999 22:46:03-GMT,2093;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01100 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 15:46:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA24469; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 16:18:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Dec 1999 16:12:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA23862; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 16:12:23 -0600 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 23:15:23 +0100 Subject: [PDF] Bleed in Acrobat. From: Peter Svensson To: PDF-listan Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi. I'm using acrobat 4 distiller with acrobat 3 compatibility. My question is, does it support bleed in document? It seems as it does'nt. When printing PS-files composit from Quark 4.04 with bleed defined in the PS-fil and sending it to the RIP(AGFA Taipan 3.01), the output seems allright. But if I create a PDF from the same PS-file and send it to the RIP, bleed information is lost. kind regards /peter ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Dec-1999 23:48:58-GMT,2798;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA02822 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 16:48:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA30378; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 17:26:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Dec 1999 17:24:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA30111; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 17:23:59 -0600 Message-ID: <009f01bf3c52$6c4af5e0$f9462099@corp.adobe.com> From: "Chris Cade" To: References: <199912012212.QAA23881@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] browser compatibility issues Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 15:18:48 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ In NT IIS Server, are document headers enabled? If so, try disabling them then restarting the server, and see if that helps. -Chris > Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:00:41 -0700 > From: lvincent@uclink4.berkeley.edu > Subject: [PDF] browser compatability issues > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > My department created some pdf files with Acrobat 3 and put them on our > NT web server. Several people on our NT network reported being unable to > view the pdf files in Netscape, but no problem using IE. > > We also have a UNIX web server, and as a test I uploaded a couple of the > pdf files to that server. The people who had experienced the Netscape/NT > problem were able to view the files from UNIX. Can anyone suggest an > explanation for this? > > Also, management here has heard that we can optimize pdf files for IE. > If true, what are the options for this? Thanks! ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Dec-1999 0:20:37-GMT,2899;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA03561 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 17:20:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA00288; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 18:03:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Dec 1999 18:01:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA00210; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 18:01:36 -0600 Message-ID: <8F7C09244A3AD31190F30000E885F972016F4A@ADMINSERVER> From: "E. Suskic" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Bleed in Acrobat. Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 11:06:48 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Peter, If you save the PS file from Quark with printers marks on and defined bleed, then create the PDF using Acrobat Distiller: you should get the bleed from the document. Esad -----Original Message----- From: Peter Svensson [mailto:peter.svensson@student.gt.kth.se] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 9:15 To: PDF-listan Subject: [PDF] Bleed in Acrobat. The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi. I'm using acrobat 4 distiller with acrobat 3 compatibility. My question is, does it support bleed in document? It seems as it does'nt. When printing PS-files composit from Quark 4.04 with bleed defined in the PS-fil and sending it to the RIP(AGFA Taipan 3.01), the output seems allright. But if I create a PDF from the same PS-file and send it to the RIP, bleed information is lost. kind regards /peter ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Dec-1999 0:32:23-GMT,2608;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA03834 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 17:32:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA01652; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 18:22:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Dec 1999 18:21:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA01557; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 18:21:29 -0600 From: Andy.Kubrin@tanner.com To: "PDFzone (E-mail)" Subject: [PDF] Multiple indexes Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 16:21:13 -0800 Message-ID: <0CB5DD902EA1D3118A8F00A0C939F2500CFDF5@keeler.tanner.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ PDFers, Sometimes Acrobat mounts multiple "instances" of the same index--that is, the identical pdx file, listed two or three times in the Index Selection dialog. This usually occurs when I open several successive files that use the same index. Closing the files drops the extra indexes sometimes, but not always. This behavior is erratic, and I don't see a way to control it on the user's end. But does it create a problem for users? Will it affect their search results? I'm using pdfmark to attach the index. Thanks in advance. Andy Andy Kubrin Manager, Documentation Group Tanner Research, Inc. E-mail andy.kubrin@tanner.com 2650 E. Foothill Blvd. Phone (626) 792-3000 Pasadena, CA 91107 Fax (626) 432-5705 http://www.tanner.com/eda/ ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Dec-1999 1:26:56-GMT,2364;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA05176 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 18:26:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA04813; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 19:11:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Dec 1999 19:09:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA04606; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 19:09:17 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: shell18.ba.best.com: fastio owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 17:09:11 -0800 (PST) From: Sam Ohzawa X-Sender: fastio@shell18.ba.best.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] browser compatability issues Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ "Aandi Inston" writes: >> Also, management here has heard that we can optimize pdf files for IE. >> If true, what are the options for this? Thanks! > >There is nothing special for IE, but you should be optimizing >ALL your PDF files served from the web. Just the usual way - >through Save as or batch actions, or Distiller 4.0. Can't they fix this BUG? It's been around for a long time and I am getting a little impatient. Whose bug is it based on the current finger pointing? If PDF in browsers reliably work only when it is optimized, it's hard call it a feature. Sam Ohzawa - FastIO Systems - ClibPDF - TIFF2PDF - www.fastio.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Dec-1999 2:04:27-GMT,2359;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA05949 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 19:04:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA07534; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 19:55:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Dec 1999 19:54:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA07324; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 19:54:00 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] browser compatability issues Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 01:53:34 -0000 Message-ID: <000d01bf3c68$0b4686e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >> Also, management here has heard that we can optimize pdf > files for IE. > >> If true, what are the options for this? Thanks! > > > >There is nothing special for IE, but you should be optimizing > >ALL your PDF files served from the web. Just the usual way - > >through Save as or batch actions, or Distiller 4.0. > > Can't they fix this BUG? It's been around for a long time > and I am getting a little impatient. Whose bug is it > based on the current finger pointing? Which bug? Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Dec-1999 4:19:37-GMT,2355;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA08640 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 21:19:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA16427; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 22:04:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Dec 1999 22:00:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA16253; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 22:00:33 -0600 Message-ID: <3845EE82.96D2081F@bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 21:58:58 -0600 From: Dean McCallum X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF to Hand Held/Palm PCs? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi: The organization for which I work is interested in using a highly portable (hand held, palm, mini notebook etc) computer to aid employees in accessing/reading technical manuals, study training manuals and courses etc, all of which are (or could be) in PDF format. Potential end users number in the tens of thousands. I would prefer to avoid a full-sized laptop, if possible, for cost rreasons and because the work environment often involves tight/limited spaces. Does anyone know of a PDF reader that can be ported to a Palm OS, Windows CE, or whatever operating system? Other options will be entertained. Dean McCallum ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Dec-1999 4:29:21-GMT,3457;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA08850 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 21:29:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA17802; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 22:22:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Dec 1999 22:20:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA17716; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 22:20:50 -0600 Message-ID: <3845F322.14BE9D5A@facs.org> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 22:18:42 -0600 From: "Brent A. Blumenstein" Organization: American College of Surgeons X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF to Hand Held/Palm PCs? References: <2332225142@FACS.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ To which I would add: How about forms capability? pdf@lists.pdfzone.com wrote: > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Hi: > > The organization for which I work is interested in using a highly > portable (hand held, palm, mini notebook etc) computer to aid employees > in accessing/reading technical manuals, study training manuals and courses etc, > all of which are (or could be) in PDF format. Potential end users > number in the tens of thousands. I would prefer to avoid a full-sized > laptop, if possible, for cost rreasons and because the work environment > often involves tight/limited spaces. > > Does anyone know of a PDF reader that can be ported to a Palm OS, > Windows CE, or whatever operating system? Other options will be > entertained. > > Dean McCallum > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Brent A. Blumenstein | e-mail: bblumenstein@facs.org American College of Surgeons | office: 312 202 5433 Oncology Group (ACOSOG) | fax: 312 202 5011 633 N. Saint Clair St. | cell: 206 390 0081 Chicago, IL 60611-3211 USA | text page: 2063900081@mobile.att.net -----------------------------| # page: 312 457 1829 ACOSOG: www.acosog.org | (rev. 19991127) ------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Dec-1999 5:15:39-GMT,2307;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA09811 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 22:15:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA20599; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 23:01:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Dec 1999 22:59:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA20389; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 22:59:44 -0600 X-Sender: mmccombs@pop.psi.ca Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 00:09:24 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Murray McCombs Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF to Hand Held/Palm PCs? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Also Interested for hand-held digital maps in PDF - Murray > The organization for which I work is interested in using a highly > portable (hand held, palm, mini notebook etc) computer to aid employees > in accessing/reading technical manuals, study training manuals and >courses etc, > all of which are (or could be) in PDF format. Potential end users > number in the tens of thousands. I would prefer to avoid a full-sized > laptop, if possible, for cost rreasons and because the work environment > often involves tight/limited spaces. > > Does anyone know of a PDF reader that can be ported to a Palm OS, > Windows CE, or whatever operating system? Other options will be > entertained. > > Dean McCallum ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Dec-1999 5:50:51-GMT,1926;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA10592 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 22:50:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA23158; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 23:39:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Dec 1999 23:37:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA23036; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 23:37:26 -0600 Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 21:37:23 -0800 (PST) From: George Johnson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF to Hand Held/Palm PCs? In-Reply-To: <3845EE82.96D2081F@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Does anyone know of a PDF reader that can be ported to a Palm OS, > Windows CE, or whatever operating system? It doesn't sound like it is available yet, but check out http://www.ansyr.com for a little bit of information on Primer. Maybe they'll allow you to be a beta tester. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Dec-1999 9:23:14-GMT,3974;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA14800 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 02:23:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA03223; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 03:07:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Dec 1999 03:05:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA03101; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 03:05:36 -0600 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 10:08:33 +0100 Subject: Re: [PDF] Bleed in Acrobat. From: Peter Svensson To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <8F7C09244A3AD31190F30000E885F972016F4A@ADMINSERVER> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id DAA03097 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thanks for the advice Esad. Is it necessary with cropmarks? I have bleed defined but without cropmarks. Peter > Frĺn: "E. Suskic" > Svara till: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Datum: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 11:06:48 +1100 > Till: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" > Ämne: RE: [PDF] Bleed in Acrobat. > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Peter, > > If you save the PS file from Quark with printers marks on and defined bleed, > then create the PDF using Acrobat Distiller: you should get the bleed from > the document. > > Esad > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Svensson [mailto:peter.svensson@student.gt.kth.se] > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 9:15 > To: PDF-listan > Subject: [PDF] Bleed in Acrobat. > > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Hi. > I'm using acrobat 4 distiller with acrobat 3 compatibility. My question is, > does it support bleed in document? It seems as it does'nt. When printing > PS-files composit from Quark 4.04 with bleed defined in the PS-fil and > sending it to the RIP(AGFA Taipan 3.01), the output seems allright. But if I > create a PDF from the same PS-file and send it to the RIP, bleed information > is lost. > > kind regards > /peter > > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving > the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Dec-1999 12:38:25-GMT,9518;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA18123 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 05:38:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA14198; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 06:20:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Dec 1999 06:16:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA13967; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 06:16:42 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 07:11:14 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Bleed in Acrobat. From: "Sheila Donnelly" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3026963474_256016_MIME_Part" Message-Id: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3026963474_256016_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable It is not necessary to have crop marks however it is necessary to have your page size larger than the document size so that it will show you the bleed. Another alternative is to use Quite imposing which stores the bleed information and allows you to show it or not show it when your print. Sheila Donnelly Precise Corporate Printing, Inc. 75 Front Street, Brooklyn, NY 11201 718-797-0900 or 800-392-2496 (Outside NYC) x134 718-797-9637 Fax sheila.donnelly@precisecorp.com ---------- From: Peter Svensson To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Bleed in Acrobat. Date: Thu, Dec 2, 1999, 4:08 AM The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thanks for the advice Esad. Is it necessary with cropmarks? I have bleed defined but without cropmarks. Peter > Fr=E5n: "E. Suskic" > Svara till: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Datum: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 11:06:48 +1100 > Till: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" > =C4mne: RE: [PDF] Bleed in Acrobat. > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.co= m/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Peter, > > If you save the PS file from Quark with printers marks on and defined ble= ed, > then create the PDF using Acrobat Distiller: you should get the bleed fro= m > the document. > > Esad > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Svensson [mailto:peter.svensson@student.gt.kth.se] > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 9:15 > To: PDF-listan > Subject: [PDF] Bleed in Acrobat. > > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.co= m/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Hi. > I'm using acrobat 4 distiller with acrobat 3 compatibility. My question i= s, > does it support bleed in document? It seems as it does'nt. When printing > PS-files composit from Quark 4.04 with bleed defined in the PS-fil and > sending it to the RIP(AGFA Taipan 3.01), the output seems allright. But i= f I > create a PDF from the same PS-file and send it to the RIP, bleed informat= ion > is lost. > > kind regards > /peter > > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving > the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving= the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= - --MS_Mac_OE_3026963474_256016_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [PDF] Bleed in Acrobat. It is not necessary to have crop marks however it is necessary to have your= page size larger than the document size so that it will show you the bleed.= Another alternative is to use Quite imposing which stores the bleed informa= tion and allows you to show it or not show it when your print.

Sheila Donnelly
Precise Corporate Printing, Inc.
75 Front Street, Brooklyn, NY 11201
718-797-0900 or 800-392-2496 (Outside NYC)  x134
718-797-9637  Fax
sheila.donnelly@precisecorp.com

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From: Peter Svensson <peter.svensson@student.gt.kth.se>
To: <pdf@lists.pdfzone.com>
Subject: Re: [PDF] Bleed in Acrobat.
Date: Thu, Dec 2, 1999, 4:08 AM



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Thanks for the advice Esad. Is it necessary with cropmarks? I have bleed defined but without cropmarks.

Peter

> Fr=E5n: "E. Suskic" <esad.suskic@prestigecolour.com.au><= BR> > Svara till: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com
> Datum: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 11:06:48 +1100
> Till: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" <pdf@lists.pdfzone.com>= ;
> =C4mne: RE: [PDF] Bleed in Acrobat.
>
>
> The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone= .com/
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> Peter,
>
> If you save the PS file from Quark with printers marks on and defined = bleed,
> then create the PDF using Acrobat Distiller: you should get the bleed = from
> the document.
>
> Esad
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Svensson [mailto:peter.svensson@student.gt.kth.se]
> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 9:15
> To: PDF-listan
> Subject: [PDF] Bleed in Acrobat.
>
>
>
> The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone= .com/
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> Hi.
> I'm using acrobat 4 distiller with acrobat 3 compatibility. My questio= n is,
> does it support bleed in document? It seems as it does'nt. When printi= ng
> PS-files composit from Quark 4.04 with bleed defined in the PS-fil and=
> sending it to the RIP(AGFA Taipan 3.01), the output seems allright. Bu= t if I
> create a PDF from the same PS-file and send it to the RIP, bleed infor= mation
> is lost.
>
> kind regards
> /peter
>
>
> ___________ * NOW SHOWING @  http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________= __
> Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improv= ing
> the
> speed of your PDF JavaScript.
> <http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/index.html?elist=3Dlink&= gt;
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ------
>
> ___________ * NOW SHOWING @  http://www.PDFzone.com/ * __________= __
> Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improv= ing the
> speed of your PDF JavaScript.
> <http://www.pdfzone.com/contributors/kthomas/index.html?elist=3Dlink&= gt;
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ------
>


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--MS_Mac_OE_3026963474_256016_MIME_Part-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Dec-1999 15:30:59-GMT,2672;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21689 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 08:30:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA26367; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 09:08:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Dec 1999 09:05:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA26183; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 09:05:42 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3845EE82.96D2081F@bellsouth.net> References: <3845EE82.96D2081F@bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 10:00:10 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF to Hand Held/Palm PCs? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA26179 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 9:58 PM -0600 12/1/99, Dean McCallum wrote: >Does anyone know of a PDF reader that can be ported to a Palm OS, >Windows CE, or whatever operating system? Other options will be >entertained. > How about the Java-based Acrobat Reader from Adobe? Try . Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Dec-1999 15:31:02-GMT,3264;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21693 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 08:31:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA26161; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 09:05:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Dec 1999 09:01:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA25830; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 09:01:12 -0600 Message-ID: <01fe01bf3cd4$c30548e0$820110ac@vocaldata.com> From: "Mike Hiatt" To: "PDF post" , "Free Framers List" , "FramersMessages" Subject: [PDF] Framemaker Conditional Text Color in PDF Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 08:51:48 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I've searched the Framemaker manual, the Acrobat manual, Adobe's support site, the FrameUser archives and I can't find the answer to my question. I think I know the answer, but unfortunately it's not the one I want. I have files shared between two documents so I have used conditional text so I only have to update one source document. I have set the tag as red and blue text so I can see the two versions easily. Unfortunately, when I do a SaveAs and choose PDF from the Frame book for the documents these files are in, the PDF shows the colored text for the condition text and when I print the page, the colored area is not black, but a shade of gray. Do I have to go back to each file after the changes are made and the conditios are set and change the shown conditional text to black type for creation of the PDF and then turn it back to the proper color for updating? Is there a way to do this through the book rather than each file individually? Can I create the conditions with black text in my template file and then import paragraph or character formats from the template into the copies of the source file that I have copied into the books where they belong? Thanks for any help. I lurk these lists and have gained much from them. Now I need help for a question I haven't seem before. Michel G. Hiatt Manager, Technical Publications VocalData, Inc. mhiatt@vocaldata.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Dec-1999 2:09:17-GMT,3059;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA06070 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 19:09:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA08029; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 20:01:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 1 Dec 1999 20:00:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA07838; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 20:00:06 -0600 Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 18:00:02 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Mornini Message-Id: <199912020200.SAA29330@sun630mp.infomania.com> To: pdf-l@emrg.com, tmornini@sun630mp.infomania.com Subject: [PDF] ANNOUNCE - PDF in Prepress mailing list! Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am pleased to announce pdf-prepress-l. Earlier there were several messages on pdf-l indicating that people would prefer a separate mailing list for PDF use in prepress. I suggested that I could help, or perhaps run myself, a list for PDF use in high-end prepress environments. Response was very positive, so I decided to put back on my list manager hat, and set up a new list. The name of the list is pdf-prepress-l and it is located at InfoMania Printing and Prepress, a PostScript prepress house in Sacramento, CA. It is handled on a Sun server system, with the latest version of the free mailing list manager, Majordomo. To subscribe to the list, send e-mail to: In the body of the message, enter the text: subscribe pdf-prepress-l or subscribe pdf-prepress-d The second entry will get you a digested version of the list, which sends out a message once 200 lines of pdf-prepress-l accumulate. The list is setup to keep archives. I will put up a web interface to the archives later, but in the meantime they can be accessed as described in the Majordomo help file, which can be mailed to you by sending e-mail to: In the body of the message, enter the text: help and you will get a file describing all you need to know as a member of pdf-prepress-l and/or pdf-prepress-d. Thank you. I will send this announcement to pdf-l once a week to let newcomers know of this development. -- Tom Mornini -- InfoMania ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Dec-1999 17:26:22-GMT,2265;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25055 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 10:26:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00260; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 10:22:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Dec 1999 10:18:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA32439; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 10:18:45 -0600 Message-ID: <007001bf3ce0$e20236c0$5a4801d8@tpsitulsa.com> From: "Fadel F Iskander" To: References: <3845EE82.96D2081F@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF to Hand Held/Palm PCs? Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 10:18:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > How about the Java-based Acrobat Reader from Adobe? Try > . > > > Leonard The above link gives the following error: Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error '80004005' [Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Could not find file '(unknown)'. /beta/download.asp, line 19 Fadel F. Iskander ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Dec-1999 17:26:26-GMT,2208;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25057 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 10:26:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00651; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 10:26:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Dec 1999 10:23:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00280; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 10:23:14 -0600 Message-ID: <029601bf3ce0$38e2ed00$820110ac@vocaldata.com> From: "Mike Hiatt" To: "PDF post" , "Free Framers List" , "FramersMessages" Subject: [PDF] Thanks - RE: Framemaker Conditional Text Color in PDF Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 10:13:50 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thanks for the quick and very helpful responses from Ian, Marcus, Melanie and Rick on how to have the conditional text print as black instead of colored. Such a simple solution that I overlooked. Thanks again. The lists are great. Michel G. Hiatt Manager, Technical Publications VocalData, Inc. mhiatt@vocaldata.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Dec-1999 18:29:18-GMT,2503;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26864 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 11:29:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA10669; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 12:18:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Dec 1999 12:13:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA10294; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 12:13:42 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Framemaker Conditional Text Color in PDF Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 18:13:22 -0000 Message-ID: <000201bf3cf0$eb814b40$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <01fe01bf3cd4$c30548e0$820110ac@vocaldata.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Do I have to go back to each file after the changes are made and the > conditios are set and change the shown conditional text to > black type for > creation of the PDF and then turn it back to the proper color > for updating? I have a similar issue: link colour. I generate two versions of the PDF, one in black for printing, and one in colour. It only takes a few minutes to import the template and make a new PDF. Quite A Box Of Tricks also has an "all text to black" function. I don't use that because I change the style of links too - in the printed version, I also add (see page ...), which again is done with the Frame template. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Dec-1999 18:38:53-GMT,1875;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27122 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 11:38:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA11367; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 12:25:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Dec 1999 12:22:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA11121; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 12:22:32 -0600 Subject: [PDF] Create Adobe PDF Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 13:24:08 -0500 x-sender: geoffm@mail.novainc.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Geoff Manning To: "PDFZone" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1267963577-143914581@novainc.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is there a way to use prologue.ps and epilogue.ps when creating a PDF via "Create Adobe PDF". ............................. Geoff Manning Assistant Production Manager Nova Marketing Production Dept. Quincy, MA 02169 617-770-0304 Ext. 26 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Dec-1999 19:09:48-GMT,2161;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28017 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 12:09:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA13867; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 12:55:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Dec 1999 12:51:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA13473; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 12:51:35 -0600 Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 18:51:30 +0000 (GMT) From: Kevin Rogers X-Sender: krogers@tirin.openworld.co.uk To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] browser compatibility issues In-Reply-To: <199912012212.QAA23881@everglades.binc.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, We had a similar problem here, it involved accessing PDFs over the network using the file:// protocol in Netscape. Everything was fine in IE, but we only got a blank screen in Netscape. Have a read of http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/1b36a.htm for some more information on this. Simple answer, everything was fine when accessing the files over the web (http & ftp). It's a problem with Netscape rather than Acrobat. Kevin Rogers Open World Ltd ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Dec-1999 20:02:03-GMT,1930;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29466 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 13:02:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18337; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 13:50:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Dec 1999 13:47:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA17982; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 13:47:11 -0600 Message-ID: <002501bf3cfe$6eb6d9a0$e3c62e9c@liebeno> From: "Terry" To: References: Subject: [PDF] open file to a destination Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 13:50:05 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ How can I open one PDF from another and make it open to a destination within the new PDF. Terry terry@powerweb.net ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Dec-1999 20:53:04-GMT,4736;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA00911 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 13:53:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA21945; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 14:32:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Dec 1999 14:29:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA21600; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 14:29:23 -0600 Message-ID: <8F7C09244A3AD31190F30000E885F972016F4D@ADMINSERVER> From: "E. Suskic" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Bleed in Acrobat. Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 07:34:35 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id OAA21592 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Peter, to print PDF files with crop marks (if they are not already there) you need to use a plug in called Crackerjack from www.lantanarips.com. Esad -----Original Message----- From: Peter Svensson [mailto:peter.svensson@student.gt.kth.se] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 8:09 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Bleed in Acrobat. The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thanks for the advice Esad. Is it necessary with cropmarks? I have bleed defined but without cropmarks. Peter > Frĺn: "E. Suskic" > Svara till: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Datum: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 11:06:48 +1100 > Till: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" > Ämne: RE: [PDF] Bleed in Acrobat. > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Peter, > > If you save the PS file from Quark with printers marks on and defined bleed, > then create the PDF using Acrobat Distiller: you should get the bleed from > the document. > > Esad > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Svensson [mailto:peter.svensson@student.gt.kth.se] > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 9:15 > To: PDF-listan > Subject: [PDF] Bleed in Acrobat. > > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Hi. > I'm using acrobat 4 distiller with acrobat 3 compatibility. My question is, > does it support bleed in document? It seems as it does'nt. When printing > PS-files composit from Quark 4.04 with bleed defined in the PS-fil and > sending it to the RIP(AGFA Taipan 3.01), the output seems allright. But if I > create a PDF from the same PS-file and send it to the RIP, bleed information > is lost. > > kind regards > /peter > > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving > the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Dec-1999 21:29:04-GMT,2075;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01881 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 14:29:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA25549; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 15:15:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Dec 1999 15:12:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA25234; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 15:12:15 -0600 Message-ID: <3846DF73.91719503@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 17:06:59 -0400 From: Bryan Guignard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] open file to a destination References: <002501bf3cfe$6eb6d9a0$e3c62e9c@liebeno> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > How can I open one PDF from another and make it open to a destination within > the new PDF. Terry, Use the link tool. You can also jump to another PDF by clicking on a bookmark. A third method is to create a named destination. The Acrobat online help guide has all the instructions you need. Bryan Guignard ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Dec-1999 21:53:03-GMT,2476;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02610 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 14:53:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA27724; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 15:40:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Dec 1999 15:38:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA27441; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 15:38:03 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 16:38:00 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Create Adobe PDF From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991202213601.UIVC21594.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ You should be using them, if they are in the Distiller folder, when the system access' Distiller to create the PDF. -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." (613) 824-2243 EST PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com Articles of Interest (PDF): http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html Web Site of Interest (PDF): http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf ---------- > > Is there a way to use prologue.ps and epilogue.ps > when creating a PDF via "Create Adobe PDF". > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Dec-1999 22:10:11-GMT,2816;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03091 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 15:10:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA29495; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 16:01:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Dec 1999 15:58:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA29111; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 15:58:48 -0600 Message-Id: <199912022158.OAA21489@net.indra.com> From: "Michael P. Thompson" Organization: The Resource Center for Associations To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 13:45:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: [PDF] browser compatability issues In-reply-to: X-LINE1: ABCDEF0123456789 X-PM-Encryptor: QDPGP, 4 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 1 Dec 99, at 17:09, Sam Ohzawa wrote: > If PDF in browsers reliably work only when it is optimized, > it's hard call it a feature. PDF working reliably in browsers has nothing to do with optimization as Aandi was talking about it. I think what he was saying was that you should always downsample the graphics and such to make a screen readable product with small file sizes and short download times when producing a product for the web. When using PDF for other purposes, such as pre-press, you optimize for that purpose instead, with less compression, higher resolution, etc. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.0.2 -- QDPGP 2.60 Comment: Public key: iQA/AwUBOEbaavK9hc/UFrvDEQKZmQCeLO+XZsq5E8mFw+cK1pd8h961ze4AoPp8 Sw5EYrnIDki7hLk252a6JZZL =I+sx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ******Michael P. Thompson****** ****Director of Communications*** ***mthompson@resourcenter.com*** ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Dec-1999 1:21:32-GMT,3658;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA08075 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 18:21:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA09126; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 19:03:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Dec 1999 18:58:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA08684; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 18:58:15 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 19:58:13 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] browser compatability issues From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991203005614.EUY21594.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> If PDF in browsers reliably work only when it is optimized, >> it's hard call it a feature. > > PDF working reliably in browsers has nothing to do with optimization > as Aandi was talking about it. I think what he was saying was that you > should always downsample the graphics and such to make a screen > readable product with small file sizes and short download times when > producing a product for the web. When using PDF for other purposes, > such as pre-press, you optimize for that purpose instead, with less > compression, higher resolution, etc. > Wrong. If the file is not Optimized, it will not byte-serve! It will just be a big download, this gives PDF a bad name. I can assure you that many of your files can be at print quality and on the web and very small. It just takes a little advanced planning. Optimize allows Acrobat to put place holders and such for repetitive objects, thus reducing file size, it is not just for printing. Check out the Nuclear site listed in me signature. Then print it, to film if you like, and be amazed. Note the Nuclear site is having a major update in January to reduce it in size even more, about 20%, without loosing quality. (Yes we could just downsample to 72dpi, but why ruin really hard work and the one file for all format capability of PDF). ...peace earthlings... -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." (613) 824-2243 EST PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com Articles of Interest (PDF): http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html Web Site of Interest (PDF): http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf ---------- >From: "Michael P. Thompson" ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Dec-1999 4:02:55-GMT,3576;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA11327 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 21:02:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA18706; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 21:47:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 2 Dec 1999 21:43:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA18410; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 21:43:29 -0600 Message-ID: <38473C61.1803@concentric.net> Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 19:43:32 -0800 From: David X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] links and color shifts Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I’m trying to put together a portfolio presentation in Acrobat 3.01 to put on a CD-ROM and send to potential clients. It would consist of multiple pages w/an image and numbered buttons on each page which are linked to each appropriate page/image for navigation throughout the presentation (plus an exit command linked to file/quit). I thought that it might be nice to include a sound when a button is pushed but each button is already configured as a link set to the ‘go to view’ action. Since a link to a sound action is an alternate choice in the same link actions menu, is it possible (in 3.01) (4?) to configure it so that mouse clicking a button would play a button pushing sound _and_ transport the viewer to the desired page (2 link actions for one mouse click)? If so, how do you go about setting it up? Also, is it possible to create a text rollover that causes text to appear (when a predetermined area is entered w/the cursor) and then disappear when exited? I’ve read a couple of Acro. books and played around with it quite a bit but can’t figure out how to make either the multiple actions thing or the rollover effect work. Finally, I’m getting what seems to me (as a designer) to be rather large color shifts not in the downsampled bitmap images but in the flat PMS colors that are part of each Acro. page (created from the aforementioned FH file) . Whether I distill the file from the Freehand print dialog, print to file from the Freehand print dialog or export the file as a Mac EPS and distill, the PMS colors come out shifted consistently in the same way. When I export the file fr. FH as a PDF, both the bitmaps and the PMS colors are very accurate but the fonts will not embed in spite of clicking “include fonts” in the export options. I’m stuck w/substituted fonts (not acceptable). What am I doing wrong and how do I do it right? If anyone can shed any light on these issues, I would be very grateful. Thanks alot. David ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Dec-1999 7:42:49-GMT,2135;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA15754 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 00:35:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA30355; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 01:24:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Dec 1999 01:21:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA30211; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 01:21:49 -0600 Message-ID: <8D6970D62096D311BB19009027DE41307C65@POWEREDGE2300> From: David Mineer Jr To: "PDF (E-mail)" Subject: [PDF] Automatic PDF Printing Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 00:22:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ What is the best way to automate pdf printing? What I actually want to do is have my users click a button that would output a crystal reports document to a pdf file and store that pdf file in a location I specify. Any ideas. Your help is appreciated. I hope this is the appropriate forum for such a question. Thankyou, ------------------------------- Construction Monitor Tel: 435-586-1205 David Mineer Jr Fax:435-586-7414 Systems Administrator monitor@buildinfo.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Dec-1999 8:51:17-GMT,2936;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA17109 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 01:51:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA01422; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 02:34:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Dec 1999 02:32:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA01364; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 02:32:05 -0600 Message-ID: From: Stuart Slaney To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Automatic PDF Printing Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 08:31:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Some kind of file router software or scrpiting > ---------- > From: David Mineer Jr > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Friday, December 3, 1999 7:22 am > To: PDF (E-mail) > Subject: [PDF] Automatic PDF Printing > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > What is the best way to automate pdf printing? > > What I actually want to do is have my users click a button that would > output > a crystal reports document to a pdf file and store that pdf file in a > location I specify. > > Any ideas. > > Your help is appreciated. I hope this is the appropriate forum for such a > question. > > Thankyou, > > ------------------------------- > Construction Monitor Tel: 435-586-1205 > David Mineer Jr Fax:435-586-7414 > Systems Administrator > monitor@buildinfo.com > > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving > the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Dec-1999 14:30:44-GMT,4917;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA23066 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 07:30:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA19742; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 08:12:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Dec 1999 08:06:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA19261; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 08:06:30 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 09:06:28 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] links and color shifts From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Message-Id: <19991203140429.OYJS21594.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA19257 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >From: David, > I’m trying to put together a portfolio presentation in Acrobat > 3.01 to put on a CD-ROM and send to potential clients. Please update, as this is an old and problematic version. You should be using 3.02, preferrably 4 and the soon to be acquired 4.05. > It would consist of multiple pages w/an image and numbered buttons > on each page which are linked to each appropriate page/image for > navigation throughout the presentation (plus an exit command linked to > file/quit). I thought that it might be nice to include a sound when a > button is pushed but each button is already configured as a link set to > the ‘go to view’ action. Since a link to a sound action is an alternate > choice in the same link actions menu, is it possible (in 3.01) (4?) > to configure it so that mouse clicking a button would play a button > pushing sound _and_ transport the viewer to the desired page (2 link > actions for one mouse click)? If so, how do you go about > setting it up? Also, is it possible to create a text rollover that > causes > text to appear (when a predetermined area is entered w/the cursor) > and then disappear when exited? I’ve read a couple of Acro. books and > played around with it quite a bit but can’t figure out how to make > either > the multiple actions thing or the rollover effect work. Can you say form tool? Use this tool to create your links, you can assign multiple actions easily, and rollovers. > > Finally, I’m getting what seems to me (as a designer) to be rather large > color shifts not in the downsampled bitmap images but in the flat PMS > colors that are part of each Acro. page (created from the aforementioned > FH file) . Whether I distill the file from the Freehand print dialog, > print to file from the Freehand print dialog or export the file as a Mac > EPS and distill, the PMS colors come out shifted consistently in the > same way. When I export the file fr. FH as a PDF, both the bitmaps and > the PMS colors are very accurate but the fonts will not embed in spite > of clicking “include fonts” in the export options. I’m stuck > w/substituted fonts (not acceptable). What am I doing wrong and how do > I do it right? You must Distill, and Epilogue and Prologue should be in the Distiller folder, to handle special colours. Better yet use real CMYK values, or that pesky RGB, so that you have more conrtol over how others se your work. > > If anyone can shed any light on these issues, I would be very grateful. > Thanks alot. > Small flashlight used, low on batteries, time running out, t... -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." (613) 824-2243 EST PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com Articles of Interest (PDF): http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html Web Site of Interest (PDF): http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf ---------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Dec-1999 14:30:44-GMT,2768;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA23067 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 07:30:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA19810; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 08:13:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Dec 1999 08:09:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA19518; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 08:09:45 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 09:09:43 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Automatic PDF Printing From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991203140745.PANV21594.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ What system are you on? Applescript on the Mac OS 8.6 or better is your friend. On a Windows Box, you'll need custom apps, Stuart Slaney -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." (613) 824-2243 EST PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com Articles of Interest (PDF): http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html Web Site of Interest (PDF): http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf ---------- > What is the best way to automate pdf printing? > > What I actually want to do is have my users click a button that would output > a crystal reports document to a pdf file and store that pdf file in a > location I specify. > > Any ideas. > > Your help is appreciated. I hope this is the appropriate forum for such a > question. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Dec-1999 15:18:46-GMT,3794;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA24115 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 08:18:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA24215; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 09:03:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Dec 1999 08:59:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA23733; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 08:59:23 -0600 Message-ID: From: Stuart Slaney To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Automatic PDF Printing Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 14:59:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello Jason long time no hear, anyway I was suggesting the option of scripting to the gentleman how ask for any suggestions on his problem. Also I have moved into some new software solutions and services, have a look on my new designed site. Stuart Slaney Pdf Solutions www.pdfsolutions.co.uk > ---------- > From: Jason Belec > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Friday, December 3, 1999 2:09 pm > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Automatic PDF Printing > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > What system are you on? Applescript on the Mac OS 8.6 or better is your > friend. On a Windows Box, you'll need custom apps, Stuart Slaney > > > -- > Jason Belec :)~ > Digital Workflows Specialist, > especially PDF > > pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too > hard..." > (613) 824-2243 EST > > PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions > Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions > New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com > > Articles of Interest (PDF): > http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html > http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html > Web Site of Interest (PDF): > http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf > > > ---------- > > What is the best way to automate pdf printing? > > > > What I actually want to do is have my users click a button that would > output > > a crystal reports document to a pdf file and store that pdf file in a > > location I specify. > > > > Any ideas. > > > > Your help is appreciated. I hope this is the appropriate forum for such > a > > question. > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving > the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Dec-1999 15:52:50-GMT,2108;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA25016 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 08:52:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA27289; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 09:41:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Dec 1999 09:37:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA26928; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 09:37:33 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: sjveloff@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <38473C61.1803@concentric.net> References: <38473C61.1803@concentric.net> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 09:37:31 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Veloff Subject: [PDF] Create Web Links - not working??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I've created several PDFs using various fonts and every time I run the "Tools -> Web Links.. -> Create" Adobe Acrobat 4.0 converts NONE of the URLs to live links. I've used Acrobat 4.0 on two different Macs and one Windows machine with the exact same results. Anyone else finding this? ----------------------------- Steve Veloff sjveloff@pdfzone.com http://www.pdfzone.com/ PDFzone.com - Web Development ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Dec-1999 16:13:33-GMT,2589;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25493 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 09:13:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29245; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:00:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Dec 1999 09:57:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA28851; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 09:57:37 -0600 Message-ID: <3847E73F.4961C2CF@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 11:52:31 -0400 From: Bryan Guignard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Create Web Links - not working??? References: <38473C61.1803@concentric.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I've created several PDFs using various fonts and every time I run > the "Tools -> Web Links.. -> Create" Adobe Acrobat 4.0 converts NONE > of the URLs to live links. I've used Acrobat 4.0 on two different > Macs and one Windows machine with the exact same results. > > Anyone else finding this? Steve, Your explanation is a bit vague. What exactly do you mean by "I've created several PDFs"? How did you create them? My present understanding is that the web link tool only works on HTML files converted PDFs via the AcroSpider. I am not sure if this tool converts a typed in url from a standard PDF file into a live link. All I see in the documentation is about converting live links created with AcroSpider to actual PDF pages. It doesn't sound like this is what you're trying to do. Maybe someone else knows something about this? Bryan Guignard ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Dec-1999 16:38:46-GMT,5712;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26271 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 09:38:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA31597; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:26:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:22:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA31218; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:22:56 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: totemonline@mail.totemonline.com (Unverified) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 17:21:10 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: ToTEM snc Subject: [PDF] pdf and countries Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1267884364==_ma============" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ --============_-1267884364==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" 1- We are producing a CD Rom Mac/ISO with a manual in pdf format for french, german, spanish, italian, english and russian customers. 2- We are distributing on this CD Roman Adobe web site downloaded Adobe Acrobat Reader 4.05 Installer (Mac and Win). 3- With this english version of Acrobat Reader (the only available on the Adobe web site) can all our customers read correctly the bookmarks in our pdf file (the bookmarks for russian version are in english)? 4- The characters of the text in the pdf file bookmarks depend on the client System version installed or on the client Acrobat Reader version installed? 5- We think there are not problems with german, french, english, spanish and italian (we are italian) version of our pdf file but with the russian one we think the problems in the pdf bookmarks will exist. We would like to know if customers of different countries will see the bookmarks as we do. 6- Does this depend on the character map of the used font in the client System version installed? 7- What can we do about these problems? 8- Can we send to someone of you a copy of a your country pdf version for a test? Thankyou to all ***************************************************** ToTEM snc via Aquileia, 36 - 34072 Gradisca d'Isonzo (GO) - Italy tel.: +39(0)481961510 - fax: +39(0)481961810 mailto:totem@totemonline.com http://www.totemonline.com ***************************************************** --============_-1267884364==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" pdf and countries
1- We are producing a CD Rom Mac/ISO with a  manual in pdf format for french, german, spanish, italian, english and russian customers.

2- We are distributing on this CD Roman Adobe web site downloaded Adobe Acrobat Reader 4.05 Installer (Mac and Win).

3- With this english version of Acrobat Reader (the only available on the Adobe web site) can all our customers read correctly the bookmarks in our pdf file (the bookmarks for russian version are in english)?

4- The characters of the text in the pdf file bookmarks depend on the client System version installed or on the client Acrobat Reader version installed?

5- We think there are not problems with german, french, english, spanish and italian (we are italian) version of our pdf file but with the russian one we think the problems in the pdf bookmarks will exist.
We would like to know if customers of different countries will see the bookmarks as we do.

6- Does this depend on the character map of the used font in the client System version installed?

7- What can we do about these problems?

8- Can we send to someone of you a copy of a your country pdf version for a test?

Thankyou to all

*****************************************************
ToTEM snc

via Aquileia, 36 - 34072 Gradisca d'Isonzo (GO) - Italy
tel.: +39(0)481961510 - fax: +39(0)481961810

mailto:totem@totemonline.com
http://www.totemonline.com
*****************************************************
--============_-1267884364==_ma============-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Dec-1999 16:46:57-GMT,2991;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26693 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 09:46:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA32462; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:35:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:32:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA32145; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:32:57 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: sjveloff@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3847E73F.4961C2CF@nbnet.nb.ca> References: <38473C61.1803@concentric.net> <3847E73F.4961C2CF@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:32:55 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Veloff Subject: Re: [PDF] Create Web Links - not working??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > I've created several PDFs using various fonts and every time I run > > the "Tools -> Web Links.. -> Create" Adobe Acrobat 4.0 converts NONE > > of the URLs to live links. I've used Acrobat 4.0 on two different > > Macs and one Windows machine with the exact same results. > >Your explanation is a bit vague. What exactly do you mean by "I've >created several >PDFs"? >How did you create them? I've created documents using Word 98 and AppleWorks 5 then creating a PS file from there and using Distiller 4 to create the PDF. The text is selectable. I know this has worked in the past as I could swear that I've done it before. >My present understanding is that the web link tool only works on HTML files >converted PDFs via the AcroSpider. >I am not sure if this tool converts a typed in url from a standard >PDF file into a >live link. All I see in the documentation is about converting live >links created >with AcroSpider to actual PDF pages. It doesn't sound like this is what you're >trying to do. You are getting confused between what I'm doing (Create Web Links in an existing PDF document) and the "Web Capture" feature which converts Web pages/sites to PDF preserving the links. Steve ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Dec-1999 16:49:43-GMT,2054;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26800 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 09:49:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA32622; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:38:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:35:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA32396; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:35:19 -0600 Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 08:35:09 -0800 (PST) From: George Johnson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Create Web Links - not working??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I've created several PDFs using various fonts and every time I run > the "Tools -> Web Links.. -> Create" Adobe Acrobat 4.0 converts NONE > of the URLs to live links. I've used Acrobat 4.0 on two different > Macs and one Windows machine with the exact same results. It works for me (Word doc -> Distiller) if the URL starts with http://, ftp://, etc., even if using wierd True Type fonts. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Dec-1999 17:12:11-GMT,2960;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27473 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:12:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01592; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:58:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:54:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01323; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:54:29 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf and countries Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 16:54:04 -0000 Message-ID: <000d01bf3daf$022c6be0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> 3- With this english version of Acrobat Reader (the only available on the Adobe web site) << Adobe's site seems to offer a choice of English, Chinese (simplified and traditional), Dutch, French, German, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Portugese, Spanish, and Swedish, as well as English_ME and French_ME which may be something to do with the Middle East. >> The characters of the text in the pdf file bookmarks depend on the client System version installed or on the client Acrobat Reader version installed? << Bookmarks are stored in Unicode, but I suspect they may display correctly only if the matching character set is available as the system default. System fonts are used, no additional or embedded ones. >> 8- Can we send to someone of you a copy of a your country pdf version for a test? << A little off-topic, but it worth noting that both Apple and Microsoft offer subscription services giving access to ALL language versions of MacOS and Windows. Keeping a machine for installing foreign OS's on is useful. Unfortunately, Adobe are nothing like so helpful with foreign copies of Acrobat - except Acrobat Reader. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Dec-1999 17:23:33-GMT,2639;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27760 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:23:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02463; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:09:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:06:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02213; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:06:42 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Create Web Links - not working??? Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 17:06:18 -0000 Message-ID: <001101bf3db0$b7d9b5a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3847E73F.4961C2CF@nbnet.nb.ca> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > I've created several PDFs using various fonts and every time I run > > the "Tools -> Web Links.. -> Create" Adobe Acrobat 4.0 converts NONE > > of the URLs to live links. I've used Acrobat 4.0 on two different > > Macs and one Windows machine with the exact same results. I was rather surprised to find that this option does indeed scan the open document and create links over things which look like URLs. A useful feature, nowhere mentioned in the Acrobat Guide. If it doesn't happen, I might suspect a file where the font encodings are garbled. Copy and paste the URL to Word (or whatever): does it still look like a URL, or garbage? Word 97 -> PDF should create web links itself if Distiller is used, just as well, since this route will garble any text in TrueType fonts, on most systems. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Dec-1999 17:28:29-GMT,6402;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28001 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:28:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02999; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:15:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:12:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02756; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:12:21 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 12:12:18 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf and countries From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3027067938_778153_MIME_Part" Message-Id: <19991203171020.UBYJ21594.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3027067938_778153_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit 3- With this english version of Acrobat Reader (the only available on the Adobe web site) can all our customers read correctly the bookmarks in our pdf file (the bookmarks for russian version are in english)? They should work fine, as they are actually referencing a physical location. Feel free to check with Dan at DanielAri@Dionis.com he's a bit of a guru in these areas. 4- The characters of the text in the pdf file bookmarks depend on the client System version installed or on the client Acrobat Reader version installed? Usually, unless they have installed multilanguage support, and then only those languages would be supported I believe. I have done a lot of international language PDF's, but not in this way. 6- Does this depend on the character map of the used font in the client System version installed? Send a file, I'll be happy to try it. 7- What can we do about these problems? Use Destination pages, then it won't matter what the language is! 8- Can we send to someone of you a copy of a your country pdf version for a test? Send away... to the email below... -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." (613) 824-2243 EST PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com Articles of Interest (PDF): http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html Web Site of Interest (PDF): http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf ---------- --MS_Mac_OE_3027067938_778153_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [PDF] pdf and countries
3- With this english version of Acrobat Reader (= the only available on the Adobe web site) can all our customers read correct= ly the bookmarks in our pdf file (the bookmarks for russian version are in e= nglish)?

    They should work fine, as they are actually referen= cing a physical location.
    Feel free to check with Dan at DanielAri@Dionis.com=  he's a bit of a guru in
    these areas.

4- The characters of the text in the pdf file bookmarks depend on the clien= t System version installed or on the client Acrobat Reader version installed= ?

    Usually, unless they have installed multilanguage s= upport, and then only
    those languages would be supported I believe.  = ;I have done a lot of
    international language PDF's, but not in this way.<= BR>

6- Does this depend on the character map of the used font in the client Sys= tem version installed?  
    
    Send a file, I'll be happy to try it.

7- What can we do about these problems?

    Use Destination pages, then it won't matter what th= e language is!

8- Can we send to someone of you a copy of a your country pdf version for a= test?

    Send away...   to the email below...

--
Jason Belec  :)~
Digital Workflows Specialist,  
especially PDF

pdfworkflows@home.com          = ;"It's always easy, we just think too hard..."
(613) 824-2243 EST     
         
PDF Course Instructor          = ;Media Madness Productions
Algonquin College          &nb= sp;   Director of Digital Productions
New Media Corporate Training   www.mediamadness.com

Articles of Interest (PDF):
 http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html
 http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html
Web Site of Interest (PDF):
 http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf


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--MS_Mac_OE_3027067938_778153_MIME_Part-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Dec-1999 17:43:22-GMT,4866;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28459 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:43:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04764; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:32:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:30:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04384; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:30:05 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:26:25 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf and countries Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1267880060==_ma============" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ --============_-1267880060==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At 5:21 PM +0100 12/3/99, ToTEM snc wrote: >3- With this english version of Acrobat Reader (the only available=20 >on the Adobe web site) can all our customers read correctly the=20 >bookmarks in our pdf file (the bookmarks for russian version are in=20 >english)? ONLY if they are running a Russian version of the OS.=20 Bookmarks are displayed using System fonts, so the "default" system=20 font has to be something that can display Russian - if so, then it=20 doesn't matter what language Reader you have. >4- The characters of the text in the pdf file bookmarks depend on=20 >the client System version installed or on the client Acrobat Reader=20 >version installed? Client System version - or more specifically language of client system. Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- =20 You've got a SmartFriend=81 in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: =46TP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 --============_-1267880060==_ma============ Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At 5:21 PM +0100 12/3/99, ToTEM snc wrote: Geneva3- With this english version of Acrobat Reader (the only available on the Adobe web site) can all our customers read correctly the bookmarks in our pdf file (the bookmarks for russian version are in english)? Geneva ONLY if they are running a Russian version of the OS. Bookmarks are displayed using System fonts, so the "default" system font has to be something that can display Russian - if so, then it doesn't matter what language Reader you have. Geneva4- The characters of the text in the pdf file bookmarks depend on the client System version installed or on the client Acrobat Reader version installed? Geneva Client System version - or more specifically language of client system. GenevaLeonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend=81 in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: < =46TP Site: < PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 --============_-1267880060==_ma============-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Dec-1999 17:43:23-GMT,2456;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28464 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:43:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04635; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:31:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:28:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04202; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:28:25 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 09:24:49 -0800 From: "Duff Johnson" To: , Subject: Re: [PDF] Turning deskew off in Capture Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA04195 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >what is the file and the setting you can change >to turn off deskew in both >Capture 1 and 2 For Capture 1.01, you can tweak the .ggx file in the Capture directory. This procedure is NOT supported by Adobe, BTW! Of course, I doubt if Adobe still supports that creaky old app. For Capture 2.01, you can't turn this feature off. But.. why would you want to? It costs relatively few compute cycles, after all... If I've misunderstoof, and if you want to suppress auto-page rotation (which frequently IS desirable), set Capture's Process settings to "Portrait Only". ...and feed the software portrait only images.... Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. www.document-solutions.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Dec-1999 17:43:40-GMT,2949;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28480 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:43:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04765; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:32:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:30:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04392; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:30:06 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000d01bf3daf$022c6be0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: <000d01bf3daf$022c6be0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:31:52 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf and countries Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA04378 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 4:54 PM +0000 12/3/99, Aandi Inston wrote: >as well as English_ME and French_ME >which may be something to do with the Middle East. The ME versions are indeed the ones for the Middle East, and have the code in them to deal with the idiosyncrasies of Hebrew and Arabic. >Bookmarks are stored in Unicode, Unicode is an option, not a requirement, Aandi - I believe that default is PDFDocEncoding. > Unfortunately, Adobe are nothing like so helpful >with foreign copies of Acrobat - except Acrobat Reader. > It's not just Acrobat! Try getting copies of a localized version of ANY Adobe product from inside the US!! Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Dec-1999 18:08:06-GMT,3393;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29213 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:08:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06818; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:54:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:52:05 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06643; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:52:04 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: sjveloff@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001101bf3db0$b7d9b5a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: <001101bf3db0$b7d9b5a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:51:59 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Veloff Subject: [PDF] UPDATE> Create Web Links - not working??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > > I've created several PDFs using various fonts and every time I run > > > the "Tools -> Web Links.. -> Create" Adobe Acrobat 4.0 converts NONE > > > of the URLs to live links. I've used Acrobat 4.0 on two different > > > Macs and one Windows machine with the exact same results. > >I was rather surprised to find that this option does indeed scan >the open document and create links over things which look like >URLs. A useful feature, nowhere mentioned in the Acrobat Guide. > >If it doesn't happen, I might suspect a file where the font >encodings are garbled. Copy and paste the URL to Word (or whatever): >does it still look like a URL, or garbage? > >Word 97 -> PDF should create web links itself if Distiller is >used, just as well, since this route will garble any text in >TrueType fonts, on most systems. > >Aandi OK, I've got it down to the Font embedding (go figure). If I embed NO fonts in the PS file and Distill it to PDF, it will convert all 9 URLs to actual links because it replaces both fonts to Courier. If I embed all but standard 13 in the PS file and Distill to PDF, it will convert only the 3 that were of the font NOT embedded (Courier again). The 6 URLs where the font was embedded (Bookman Old Style) were NOT converted to actual links. After some more experimenting with this I found it may have to do with LaserWriter 8.7 and Mac OS 9 and the way it creates the PS file. I used the same Word 98 doc on a Mac running OS 8.6 with LaserWriter 8.6 and embedded all fonts and all 9 URLs were converted to active links just fine. I wonder if Acrobat 4.0.5 will fix this? Steve Veloff sjveloff@pdfzone.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Dec-1999 18:27:45-GMT,1883;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29987 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:27:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA08634; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:15:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:12:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA08328; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:12:33 -0600 Message-ID: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A60FF2A8@PARAV_SERVER> From: Vincent Huang To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Turning deskew off in Capture Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:21:30 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ "PageGenie Pro/Enterprise 4.0" for PDF Capturing allows you to turn on-turn off any of the image pre-processing functions. In case you needed the features. Vincent Huang PageGenie: Setting Higher Standards for PDF Capturing... http://www.pagegenie.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Dec-1999 18:51:04-GMT,2108;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00630 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 11:51:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA10129; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:37:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:33:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09829; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:33:36 -0600 Message-ID: From: Paul Keeley To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Saving PDF from IE Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 13:29:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is there any way to save a PDF file being viewed in a frame in Internet Explorer 4.x or 5.x? In Netscape one can activate the frame and do a "file/save frame" command to save the PDF file being viewed. Is there a way to do the same thing in ie? I have tried saving the complete page and even though it saves a file with a .pdf extension it is not viewable from Acrobat Reader. Paul Keeley INSCI Corp. Two Westborough Business Park Westborough MA 01581 Phone: 508-870-4324 Fax: 508-870-5585 http://www.insci.com/ ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Dec-1999 19:13:36-GMT,3639;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01237 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:13:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12062; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 13:02:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:58:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA11721; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:58:58 -0600 Message-ID: <384812B6.4C0F1236@frii.com> Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 11:57:58 -0700 From: "Bruce A. Boman" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Saving PDF from IE References: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------8843C2863CAF57ABAA641157" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------8843C2863CAF57ABAA641157 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul, In IE you can't save the PDF being viewed, you need to right click on the link to the PDF and do a "save link as" to save the PDF. Bruce A. Boman Paul Keeley wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Is there any way to save a PDF file being viewed in a frame in Internet > Explorer 4.x or 5.x? In Netscape one can activate the frame and do a > "file/save frame" command to save the PDF file being viewed. Is there a way > to do the same thing in ie? I have tried saving the complete page and even > though it saves a file with a .pdf extension it is not viewable from Acrobat > Reader. > > Paul Keeley > INSCI Corp. > Two Westborough Business Park > Westborough MA 01581 > Phone: 508-870-4324 > Fax: 508-870-5585 > http://www.insci.com/ > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------8843C2863CAF57ABAA641157 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="baboman.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Bruce A. Boman Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="baboman.vcf" begin:vcard n:Boman;Bruce tel;home:303-980-5860 tel;work:303-202-4368 x-mozilla-html:TRUE org:HOME adr:;;12472 W. Nevada Place, Unit 214;Lakewood;CO;80228;USA version:2.1 email;internet:baboman@frii.com or baboman@ netscape.net x-mozilla-cpt:;4560 fn:Bruce Boman end:vcard --------------8843C2863CAF57ABAA641157-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Dec-1999 19:50:18-GMT,2083;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02161 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:50:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA15174; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 13:41:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Dec 1999 13:37:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14848; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 13:37:56 -0600 From: Laurie_Coyne@amsinc.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525683C.006B7880.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 14:24:46 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Word 97 Hyperlinks (Not Converting) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Iam trying to convert hyperlinks within a word document to all lower case (for unix compatibility). I can view Word 97 Tools/Option/Edit/View/ Field Codes and change all text to lower case Search/Replace (and it makes all links lower case). But when I exit viewing the Field Codes the links are not changed. I really do not want to go back and relink all documents. Is there a way to work around this problem. Any Assistance is greatly appreciated. Laurie ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Dec-1999 19:52:06-GMT,1816;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02197 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:52:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14331; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 13:31:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Dec 1999 13:27:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA13977; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 13:27:40 -0600 Message-ID: <38481983.20BE665B@adobe.com> Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 11:26:59 -0800 From: Roberto Perelman Organization: Adobe Systems Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Saving PDF from IE References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Use the save button in the Acrobat toolbar displayed inside the IE window. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Dec-1999 20:34:33-GMT,2837;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03406 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 13:34:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18251; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 14:20:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Dec 1999 14:16:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17915; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 14:16:58 -0600 Message-ID: From: Paul Keeley To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Saving PDF from IE Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 15:12:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thank you all for your help. Only in this case there is no link to right click on and save. The PDF document is created and sent after the link has been clicked i.e. the link is not a link to a file -- it calls a program that creates the file and sends the PDF page. Because I have the Acrobat reader .ocx's installed, the pdf page is called up and displayed in the browser by reader. To see how it works go to http://www.insci.com/demos.html and log in. You should be able to follow it and see the PDF archive. Because our customers will generally have reader saving from Exchange is also not possible. > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruce A. Boman [SMTP:baboman@frii.com] > Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 1:58 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Saving PDF from IE > > Paul, > > In IE you can't save the PDF being viewed, you need to right click on the > link to > the PDF and do a "save link as" to save the PDF. > > Bruce A. Boman > > Paul Keeley wrote: > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > Is there any way to save a PDF file being viewed in a frame in Internet > Explorer > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Dec-1999 21:12:31-GMT,2706;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04523 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 14:12:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20791; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 14:54:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Dec 1999 14:50:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20449; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 14:50:20 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Saving PDF from IE Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 20:49:51 -0000 Message-ID: <001d01bf3dcf$f24695e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Thank you all for your help. Only in this case there is no > link to right > click on and save. The PDF document is created and sent > after the link has > been clicked i.e. the link is not a link to a file -- it > calls a program > that creates the file and sends the PDF page. Because I have > the Acrobat > reader .ocx's installed, the pdf page is called up and > displayed in the > browser by reader. To see how it works go to > http://www.insci.com/demos.html and log in. You should be > able to follow it > and see the PDF archive. With Reader 4.0, the users can save from the Acrobat toolbar, unless you suppress the toolbar (possible with IE). > > Because our customers will generally have reader saving from > Exchange is also not possible. Exchange offers no more facilities for saving files within a browser than Reader does. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Dec-1999 21:35:18-GMT,2247;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05233 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 14:35:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23332; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 15:25:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Dec 1999 15:22:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA23038; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 15:22:30 -0600 Message-ID: <38483481.227DCC5@adobe.com> Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 13:22:09 -0800 From: Roberto Perelman Organization: Adobe Systems Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Saving PDF from IE References: <001d01bf3dcf$f24695e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > With Reader 4.0, the users can save from the Acrobat toolbar, > unless you suppress the toolbar (possible with IE). > > > > Because our customers will generally have reader saving from > > Exchange is also not possible. > > Exchange offers no more facilities for saving files within > a browser than Reader does. Actually this is not entirely true with 4.05 anymore. The toolbar button to save (while inside the browser) will save form field values if you are running Acrobat, but will not if you are running Reader. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Dec-1999 21:37:33-GMT,2013;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05297 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 14:37:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23392; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 15:27:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Dec 1999 15:24:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA23189; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 15:24:19 -0600 Message-ID: <384834F0.A2FEA137@adobe.com> Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 13:24:00 -0800 From: Roberto Perelman Organization: Adobe Systems Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Saving PDF from IE References: <001d01bf3dcf$f24695e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> <38483481.227DCC5@adobe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Actually this is not entirely true with 4.05 anymore. The toolbar button to save > (while inside the browser) will save form field values if you are running Acrobat, > but will not if you are running Reader. Oops, this change was made as early as 4.0 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Dec-1999 21:52:40-GMT,2937;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05648 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 14:52:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA24629; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 15:41:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 3 Dec 1999 15:38:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA24316; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 15:38:08 -0600 Message-ID: From: Paul Keeley To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Saving PDF from IE Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 16:33:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thanks. The save in 4.0x of reader will work great for what we need. Consider this issue closed > -----Original Message----- > From: Roberto Perelman [SMTP:rperelma@adobe.com] > Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 4:22 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Saving PDF from IE > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > > With Reader 4.0, the users can save from the Acrobat toolbar, > > unless you suppress the toolbar (possible with IE). > > > > > > Because our customers will generally have reader saving from > > > Exchange is also not possible. > > > > Exchange offers no more facilities for saving files within > > a browser than Reader does. > > Actually this is not entirely true with 4.05 anymore. The toolbar button > to save > (while inside the browser) will save form field values if you are running > Acrobat, > but will not if you are running Reader. > > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving > the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4-Dec-1999 10:55:11-GMT,3059;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA20907 for ; Sat, 4 Dec 1999 03:55:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA02548; Sat, 4 Dec 1999 04:41:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 4 Dec 1999 04:36:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA02130; Sat, 4 Dec 1999 04:36:30 -0600 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3845EE82.96D2081F@bellsouth.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 11:28:47 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF to Hand Held/Palm PCs? Cc: Dean McCallum Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Dean, at Seybold SF, Ansyr showed their Windows CE based viewer. It was rather impressive, although not up to the functionality level of the full blown Reader. From what I understand, it is based on the Java viewer. Another alternative to look at is the very small laptop models, such as the Sony Vaios. If they would be acceptable, you would have way more possibilities ... particularly a bigger screen. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Building Bridges for Information ] ______________________ >The organization for which I work is interested in using a highly >portable (hand held, palm, mini notebook etc) computer to aid employees >in accessing/reading technical manuals, study training manuals and courses >etc, >all of which are (or could be) in PDF format. Potential end users >number in the tens of thousands. I would prefer to avoid a full-sized >laptop, if possible, for cost rreasons and because the work environment >often involves tight/limited spaces. > >Does anyone know of a PDF reader that can be ported to a Palm OS, >Windows CE, or whatever operating system? Other options will be >entertained. > >Dean McCallum > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5-Dec-1999 3:47:49-GMT,3734;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA08212 for ; Sat, 4 Dec 1999 20:47:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA21878; Sat, 4 Dec 1999 21:31:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 4 Dec 1999 21:26:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA21565; Sat, 4 Dec 1999 21:26:56 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: shell18.ba.best.com: fastio owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 19:26:54 -0800 (PST) From: Sam Ohzawa X-Sender: fastio@shell18.ba.best.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: Bookmarks and annotations in Japanese on English Windows Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a self-followup. I wrote: >Is it at all possible to display bookmarks and annotations in >Japanese (Unicode) with Acrobat Reader 4.0x on the English version >of Windows 95/98/NT? Sometimes YES. It turns out on one system, I can, but on another system I cannot. I don't know what's different about the setups. So, apparently, this is possible in the presence of MSGOTHIC.TTF, at least in some cases. It should be possible for other languages. >Freely downloadable Asian Font packs from the Adobe site take care >of Japanese/Chinese/Korean languages for page contents in such >a setup without native language OSes. However, bookmarks and >annotations seem to require system-level font support for Asian >languages. Is this the case? This is the case. >I have Microsoft Global IME with fonts installed for Japanese on >this system, which installs at least one system-level Japanese font >(MSGOTHIC.TTF). Both InternetExplorer and Netscape Navigator can use >this font for displaying Japanese pages for HTML. So, it seems >technically possible for Acrobat Reader to take advantage of this >font. If Netscape can, why not Adobe Acrobat? One system where Unicode Japanese outlines and text annotations work is: Windows NT4.0 SP4, Netscape 4.5, and Acrobat Reader 4.0 plugin. It also works with IE5 on the same system. The system on which I cannot make this work is: Windows 98, Netscape 4.7, and Acrobat Reader 4.05 plugin. It doesn't work with IE5 either on the same system. Both are the English version of Windows. The font file MSGOTHIC.TTF on both systems are identical. Test PDF file is http://www.fastio.com/example/unicode.pdf FYI, Global IME for CJK languages are available from: http://www.microsoft.com/msdownload/iebuild/ime5_win32/en/ime5_win32.htm (Select) Microsoft Global IME for - with Language Pack If you can try, please do so. I would like to know how to make this work consistently. Sam Ohzawa - FastIO Systems - ClibPDF - TIFF2PDF - www.fastio.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5-Dec-1999 13:21:22-GMT,2558;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA17719 for ; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 06:21:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA17904; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 07:09:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 5 Dec 1999 07:04:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA17578; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 07:04:49 -0600 Message-ID: <384A62E9.A6096BBA@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 09:04:41 -0400 From: Robert Richard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pdfzone Subject: [PDF] Corel Draw 9 & Distiller 4.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ PDFZone list, An artist who is employed with our department has created a graphic with Drop Shadows in Corel Draw 9.0. This graphic will be used in a national program guide for our clients. We work with PCs, but the production people use Mac computers. Here is the problem we are encountering. This graphic was exported as an .eps file, after we distilled (Distiller 4.0) to create PDF. Compression schemes were all unselected for testing and Press Optimized selected. Once we viewed results in AA, the file was very unstable and Drop Shadows appeared like a blue halo instead of a beautifull white shadow. Is this a matter of AA 4.0 not able to handle all of what Corel Draw 9.0 has to offer? Could the workflow be modified and the Drop Shadows drop? Any other Corel Draw 9 users that have some insight on this situation. Thank in advance for reply. Robert Richard Robertville, New Brunswick Canada ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5-Dec-1999 19:42:22-GMT,3055;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA24198 for ; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 12:42:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06485; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 13:30:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 5 Dec 1999 13:24:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06121; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 13:24:19 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 14:21:54 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: [PDF] Re: Bookmarks and annotations in Japanese on English Windows Cc: fastio@fastio.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA06108 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 7:26 PM -0800 12/4/99, Sam Ohzawa wrote: >One system where Unicode Japanese outlines and text annotations >work is: Windows NT4.0 SP4, Netscape 4.5, and Acrobat Reader 4.0 plugin. >It also works with IE5 on the same system. This is because Windows NT is a Unicode-based OS, so that it is able to deal with the the Unicode data in the outlines and annotations. >The system on which I cannot make this work is: >Windows 98, Netscape 4.7, and Acrobat Reader 4.05 plugin. >It doesn't work with IE5 either on the same system. Windows 98 (or 95) is NOT Unicode based, and therefore the Unicode data in the PDF files can't be processed. Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6-Dec-1999 7:43:16-GMT,3197;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA08088 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 00:37:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA13219; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 01:09:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Dec 1999 00:59:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA12435; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 00:59:28 -0600 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: X-Location: Remote (ISAACS_REMOTE) Message-Id: <4.2.2.19991205225540.00bbce00@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 22:59:06 -0800 To: "Jeff Sauber" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Where is Distiller 302 update for PC (and Mac too!) Cc: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Look harder! You will find pointers to the appropriate language version on these easily found URLs (Adobe home page => updaters => Acrobat Distiller): for Windows. for Macintosh. for Eunuchs! - Dov At 11/19/99 11:34 AM , Jeff Sauber wrote: > >>>> Tim Hembrow - 11/19/99 6:01 AM >>> > > > >Sorry to trouble the group, but no one at Abobe will answer! > > > >Does any one know where I can get a PC Distiller 30x --> 302 updater from. > > > >Many thanks > > > >Tim Hembrow > > >Can I hitch a ride on this message? > >I'm trying to root out the 3x --> 3.02 updater for Mac. I can't find it anywhere on their Website. Due to certain restrictions, I need it from an official source. > >Thanks In Advance, >Jeff > >___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the >speed of your PDF JavaScript. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6-Dec-1999 10:58:18-GMT,3697;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA11298 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 03:43:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA24085; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 04:28:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Dec 1999 04:25:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA23859; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 04:25:10 -0600 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3845EE82.96D2081F@bellsouth.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 11:28:47 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF to Hand Held/Palm PCs? Cc: Dean McCallum X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Dean, at Seybold SF, Ansyr showed their Windows CE based viewer. It was rather impressive, although not up to the functionality level of the full blown Reader. From what I understand, it is based on the Java viewer. Another alternative to look at is the very small laptop models, such as the Sony Vaios. If they would be acceptable, you would have way more possibilities ... particularly a bigger screen. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Low Paper workflows, Smart documents, PDF forms CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Building Bridges for Information ] ______________________ >The organization for which I work is interested in using a highly >portable (hand held, palm, mini notebook etc) computer to aid employees >in accessing/reading technical manuals, study training manuals and courses >etc, >all of which are (or could be) in PDF format. Potential end users >number in the tens of thousands. I would prefer to avoid a full-sized >laptop, if possible, for cost rreasons and because the work environment >often involves tight/limited spaces. > >Does anyone know of a PDF reader that can be ported to a Palm OS, >Windows CE, or whatever operating system? Other options will be >entertained. > >Dean McCallum > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6-Dec-1999 11:42:59-GMT,2276;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA12317 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 04:42:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA27581; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 05:33:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Dec 1999 05:30:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA27362; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 05:30:05 -0600 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Bookmarks and annotations in Japanese on English Windows In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 05 Dec 1999 14:21:54 EST." Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 11:28:43 +0000 Message-ID: <465.944479723@MessagingDirect.com> From: Chris Ridd MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id FAA27355 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ On Sun, 05 Dec 1999 14:21:54 EST, Leonard Rosenthol wrote: > Windows 98 (or 95) is NOT Unicode based, and therefore the > Unicode data in the PDF files can't be processed. That's not true, really. Though the OSes you mentioned may not be able to handle Unicode directly, there's nothing to stop applications supporting Unicode internally. This is of course a tricky job, but it *is* possible. Cheers, Chris ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6-Dec-1999 14:05:41-GMT,3091;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA14839 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 07:05:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA03313; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 07:54:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Dec 1999 07:50:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02919; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 07:50:01 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19991206084456.0073f434@mail.9netave.ca> X-Sender: vi1626573@mail.9netave.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 08:44:56 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Paul Kostoff Subject: Re: [PDF] - Searching a PDF from Access In-Reply-To: References: <3845EE82.96D2081F@bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We need to search a PDF that has been uploaded into an MS Access database. Our scenario is that the client will upload a PDF document into a database along with several other variables such as "document title", "document description", "author" and there will be an automatic data stamp on when the document was added (we are using a custom ASP solution to write to the database and upload the files from a browser). We then want to search the PDF for relevant keywords when a user does a search. The results will return all the variables listed above plus a link to the corresponding PDF. The user would then click on the link to open the PDF to view the various documents. We can use the Adobe PDF developers kit to do this but it requires us to write a customized PDF CGI search program to search the database. We also think that the performance of this customized solution may be slow (we are about to embark on this in the next few days unless we find another solution or software program that can do it). Does anyone know of a program that can do this rather than us having to develop this from scratch? Has anyone ever done something similar and be able to provide some friendly advice? Thank you Paul Kostoff Virtual Learning Inc. www.virtuallearning.net ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6-Dec-1999 14:36:22-GMT,3431;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA15440 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 07:36:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05428; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 08:19:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Dec 1999 08:17:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05328; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 08:17:53 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <465.944479723@MessagingDirect.com> References: <465.944479723@MessagingDirect.com> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 09:19:30 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Bookmarks and annotations in Japanese on English Windows Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA05324 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 11:28 AM +0000 12/6/99, Chris Ridd wrote: >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >On Sun, 05 Dec 1999 14:21:54 EST, Leonard Rosenthol wrote: > > Windows 98 (or 95) is NOT Unicode based, and therefore the > > Unicode data in the PDF files can't be processed. > >That's not true, really. Though the OSes you mentioned may not be able >to handle Unicode directly, there's nothing to stop applications >supporting Unicode internally. This is of course a tricky job, but it >*is* possible. > You are correct, there is nothing stopping the applications in question from "doing the right thing" and handling Unicode internally. However, in this case, the issue isn't so much the handling of Unicode, it's the system font issue. On an OS w/o native Unicode fonts, the application needs to do a bunch of extra work to not only convert from Unicode to some valid code page/script system, but also do it to one for which a font is available since the whole issue is display! Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6-Dec-1999 14:39:58-GMT,3004;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA15520 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 07:39:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA06580; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 08:32:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Dec 1999 08:31:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA06465; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 08:31:17 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] - Searching a PDF from Access Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 14:39:29 -0000 Message-ID: <000401bf3ff7$b3fc6d80$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19991206084456.0073f434@mail.9netave.ca> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > We can use the Adobe PDF developers kit to do this but it > requires us to > write a customized PDF CGI search program to search the > database. We also > think that the performance of this customized solution may be > slow (we are > about to embark on this in the next few days unless we find another > solution or software program that can do it). I think slow is right. It does depend on the volume of PDF, but if it is respectable - in the tens of megabytes - solutions based on searching in real time are simply a non-starter - especially if you have to haul the PDF files out of the database first. Effective searching techniques depend on indexing files first, to make highly efficient word lists. This is what Acrobat Catalog does. You can't use Catalog directly here, but you could license the engine and SDK from Verity, if it is suitable. I'd advise against putting PDF files into a database in all cases. Instead, I'd always recommend storing the PDF files as files, and storing their location in the database. Access is hardly a serious database to start with, and storing large objects into the database is asking for trouble. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6-Dec-1999 15:16:17-GMT,2908;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16283 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 08:16:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09058; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 09:01:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Dec 1999 08:58:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08630; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 08:58:13 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: sjveloff@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 08:49:38 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Veloff Subject: [PDF] Create Web Links - Problem SOLVED! (I think) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ OK, here is a bit of follow up on the "Create Web Links" problem that I've been having (and a few others out there too). Instead of getting "Converted 0 Links" error due to embedded fonts, I first thought it was due to Mac OS 9 (I found others that had this problem on Windows) and LaserWriter 8.7. I ended up having the same problem on a Mac running OS 8.6 with LaserWriter 8.6.5, but not on a Mac running OS 8.6 with LaserWriter 8.6 (but obviously something changed after LW 8.6). If the fonts were embedded into the PS file then those links that used that embedded font would NOT convert to live Web links. I've narrowed it down to the PPD. When I used the Distiller PPD and embedded all fonts using the Virtual Printer with the Distiller PPD and embedded all fonts in the PS file, I was able to Create Web Links successfully to all URLs, even the ones using the embedded fonts. So, in short, if you want this to work on your PDFs then you must use the Distiller PPD when creating the PS file. ----------------------------- Steve Veloff sjveloff@pdfzone.com http://www.pdfzone.com/ PDFzone.com - Web Development ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6-Dec-1999 17:04:40-GMT,3313;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19257 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 10:04:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA18522; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 10:50:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Dec 1999 10:46:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA18148; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 10:46:14 -0600 Message-ID: <384BE760.87200AE0@vdiprinting.com> Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 10:42:19 -0600 From: "Matthew L. Kelly" Organization: VisualDimensions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Corel Draw 9 & Distiller 4.0 References: <384A62E9.A6096BBA@nbnet.nb.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Robert Richard wrote: > An artist who is employed with our department has created a graphic with > Drop Shadows in Corel Draw 9.0. This graphic will be used in a national > program guide for our clients. We work with PCs, but the production > people use Mac computers. > > Here is the problem we are encountering. This graphic was exported as an > .eps file, after we distilled (Distiller 4.0) to create PDF. Compression > schemes were all unselected for testing and Press Optimized selected. > Once we viewed results in AA, the file was very unstable and Drop > Shadows appeared like a blue halo instead of a beautifull white shadow. > > Is this a matter of AA 4.0 not able to handle all of what Corel Draw 9.0 > has to offer? Could the workflow be modified and the Drop Shadows drop? This may be more to do with a color management problem than with Acrobat. The color rendering in Corel has always been problem, though in the later versions, 8 and up, I think there has been an improvement. If you are using color management in Corel, make sure it is the correct profile. If your monitor is not calibrated, which is difficult to achieve on the Windows platform, that may be why it looks better in Corel. You may want to make sure that all your images in Corel are in the CMYK mode, and check what the values are in the areas in question. If you have Photoshop 5+, and you have the color set with the correct profiles and a calibrated monitor, than open that eps in Photoshop and see what rendering you get. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6-Dec-1999 20:54:58-GMT,2725;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA26596 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 13:54:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03684; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 14:40:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Dec 1999 14:34:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA03125; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 14:34:13 -0600 X-Server-Uuid: b0832e76-507b-11d1-9cee-00e0290993bc Message-ID: <9D382A8E9E25D3118A4A00E02929C25F3A349E@tfsmamsg4.tfn.com> From: "Stabile, Jay" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] text extraction results gobbledygook Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 15:32:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) X-WSS-ID: 1452C2D013074-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id OAA03117 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Resulting Acrobat PDF text extraction via Fulcrum "fails". Although characters are extracted, resulting text looks like embedded code, far from the actual text. Even when I select, copy, and paste the text from PDF into MS Word, the same gobbledygook results. Original: "CMGI, an company headquartered in Andover MA, is a holding company for 55 internet portfolio .... blah, blah, blah..." Extraction: &0*, ,QF ZZZ&0*,FRP  KHDGTXDUWHUHG LQ $QGRYHU 0DVVDFKXVHWWV LV D KROGLQJ FRPSDQ\ IRU D SRUWIROLR RI PRUH WKDQ ˘˘ ,QWHUQHW FRPSDQLHV 0DQDJHPHQW©V YLVLRQ LV EHFRPLQJ OHJHQGDU\ DQG LQ FRPELQDWLRQ ZLWK RSHUDWLQJ H[SHULHQFH OHDGV WKHP WR ILQG SURPLVLQJ ,QWHUQHW LQYHVWPHQWV DW DQ HDUO\ VWDJH 0LFURVRIW 1$6'$406)7˛ ˙˝ˇ RZQV ˘ RI WKH RXWVWDQGLQJ VKDUHV Any thoughts? Font embedding/access? Conversion error? Thanks, Jay Stabile Boston, MA ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6-Dec-1999 21:40:44-GMT,2980;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA27950 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 14:40:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA09067; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 15:30:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Dec 1999 15:29:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA08858; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 15:29:21 -0600 Message-ID: From: "McClure, Mary M" To: PDF List Subject: [PDF] Faint "Cut Lines" from WordPerfect files Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 16:29:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I thought I'd submitted this on Friday, but I haven't seen it show up on the list and I've been having trouble with my subscription to the list, so I'm posting it again: > I'm submitting this on behalf of someone else, so I apologize if the > details are a little vague. > > I've got a guy who's developed a document in WordPerfect. To quote him, > "which was distilled from a Corel WordPerfect file". I believed he tried > using both PDFWriter and Distiller 3.0X on a Windows platform. The > problem is when he prints the resulting PDF he gets faint "cut lines" > partially surrounding some of his graphics. Sometimes the lines are above > the graphic, sometimes below, and sometimes a combination of top, bottom, > and sides. > > He says when he prints the file directly to a printer from WordPerfect he > doesn't get the lines, and the lines don't appear when viewing the PDF > file except at extreme magnification. > > Has anybody else experienced this phenomena with WordPerfect files? Is > there a Distiller or WordPerfect option I can set to prevent the PDF file > from being produced with such precision? > > If you'd like to view the PDF file, please contact me at > mary.mcclure@unisys.com. > > > > Mary McClure > Product Information > Unisys Corporation > USA > (949) 380-6140 > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6-Dec-1999 21:45:12-GMT,2372;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA28079 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 14:45:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA09321; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 15:33:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Dec 1999 15:32:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA09233; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 15:32:15 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] text extraction results gobbledygook Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 21:40:25 -0000 Message-ID: <000001bf4032$827659c0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <9D382A8E9E25D3118A4A00E02929C25F3A349E@tfsmamsg4.tfn.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Resulting Acrobat PDF text extraction via Fulcrum "fails". > Although characters are extracted, resulting text looks like embedded code, > far from the actual text. This is common - fonts are often garbled in a PDF file. This is unfortunate, but not a bug - the appearance is maintained. A common cause is the combination Windows + TrueType fonts + PostScript driver. > Even when I select, copy, and paste the text from PDF into MS Word, > the same gobbledygook results. This confirms the theory. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6-Dec-1999 22:08:19-GMT,2799;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28849 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 15:08:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12012; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 15:57:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Dec 1999 15:55:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11668; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 15:55:10 -0600 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.2.19991206134954.00bbbd60@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 13:52:09 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: RE: [PDF] text extraction results gobbledygook In-Reply-To: <000001bf4032$827659c0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: <9D382A8E9E25D3118A4A00E02929C25F3A349E@tfsmamsg4.tfn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 12/6/99 01:40 PM , Aandi Inston wrote: > > Resulting Acrobat PDF text extraction via Fulcrum "fails". > > Although characters are extracted, resulting text looks like embedded >code, > > far from the actual text. > >This is common - fonts are often garbled in a PDF file. This is >unfortunate, but not a bug - the appearance is maintained. A common >cause is the combination Windows + TrueType fonts + PostScript driver. > > > Even when I select, copy, and paste the text from PDF into MS Word, > > the same gobbledygook results. > >This confirms the theory. > >Aandi And iff you update to Acrobat 4.0x and the AdobePS 4.3.1 (Windows'9x) or 5.1.x (Windows NT 4) PostScript driver, this problem should go away. It is caused by the method of encoding characters and fonts when TrueType is used prior to Acrobat 4 and the latest drivers. - Dov ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6-Dec-1999 22:51:15-GMT,2241;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00142 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 15:51:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16164; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 16:44:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Dec 1999 16:43:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA16021; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 16:43:00 -0600 Message-Id: <63DBC6BC8035D311AF570008C739748E02424EF2@torex169.tor.allied.com> From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: Post to PDF listserve Subject: [PDF] "Dirty" PDF viewing Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 15:42:52 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi PDF folks - The subject line is literally true!! I have Acrobat 4 (full) on my Windows 95 machine with ATI video drivers. Most of the time, PDF's displayed inside the browser and in Reader alone can have a "dirty smear" across a line or lines of letters. Remagnifying or moving the text out of the viewable area and back in can get rid of it. It's almost dark enough to obscure the letters completely. I have not installed reader 4.05 yet. No one else in my group has complained about this, so I'm kinda keeping mum about it and living with it. Anyone ever experienced this? Is there an Adobe FAQ about this? thx - Rebecca ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6-Dec-1999 22:53:25-GMT,3536;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00218 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 15:53:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16460; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 16:46:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Dec 1999 16:45:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA16264; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 16:45:30 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 17:45:12 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Faint "Cut Lines" from WordPerfect files From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991206224313.CNOP21594.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Mary, The applications you have mentioned, tend to do some strange things with certain types of graphics. Especially if those graphics are EPS images. And the use of PDFWriter compounds these errors. The software brakes certain images up, far more than is necessary, resulting in some background showing through sometimes. Try regenerating the PDF with Distiller 3.02 or 4.0 or later. -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." (613) 824-2243 EST PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com Articles of Interest (PDF): http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html Web Site of Interest (PDF): http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf ---------- >> I've got a guy who's developed a document in WordPerfect. To quote him, >> "which was distilled from a Corel WordPerfect file". I believed he tried >> using both PDFWriter and Distiller 3.0X on a Windows platform. The >> problem is when he prints the resulting PDF he gets faint "cut lines" >> partially surrounding some of his graphics. Sometimes the lines are above >> the graphic, sometimes below, and sometimes a combination of top, bottom, >> and sides. >> >> He says when he prints the file directly to a printer from WordPerfect he >> doesn't get the lines, and the lines don't appear when viewing the PDF >> file except at extreme magnification. >> >> Has anybody else experienced this phenomena with WordPerfect files? Is >> there a Distiller or WordPerfect option I can set to prevent the PDF file >> from being produced with such precision? >> ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6-Dec-1999 23:44:22-GMT,2362;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA01583 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 16:44:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA20255; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 17:35:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 6 Dec 1999 17:34:05 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA20044; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 17:34:03 -0600 Message-Id: <199912062333.PAA21211@wren.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 15:36:36 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] "Dirty" PDF viewing From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I have Acrobat 4 (full) on my Windows 95 machine with ATI video drivers. > Most of the time, PDF's displayed inside the browser and in Reader alone can > have a "dirty smear" across a line or lines of letters. I had similar problems 2 years ago and, in my case, the problem was with the video drivers (Millenium drivers on a Compaq). I can't say that that is your problem but you might check with ATI and see if there has been any recent software updates on your drivers. It might also be time to upgrade from WIN 95. -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.pdfresearch.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7-Dec-1999 8:42:09-GMT,2939;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA12738 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 01:42:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA20345; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 02:29:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Dec 1999 02:23:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA19942; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 02:23:03 -0600 From: "Filiep Maes" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] "Dirty" PDF viewing Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 09:25:51 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <63DBC6BC8035D311AF570008C739748E02424EF2@torex169.tor.allied.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I have Acrobat 4 (full) on my Windows 95 machine with ATI video drivers. > Most of the time, PDF's displayed inside the browser and in > Reader alone can > have a "dirty smear" across a line or lines of letters. Remagnifying or > moving the text out of the viewable area and back in can get rid of it. > It's almost dark enough to obscure the letters completely. I have the same problem on my computer : win98 with ATI video drivers (MACXW4.DRV version 4.11.2560) But it is a video driver problem and not a problem of Acrobat. Only large fonts are dirty on my computer and it comes and goes rather randomly. Best regards, Filiep ============================================ Filiep Maes Senior Software Development Engineer Enfocus Software Email: filiepm@enfocus.com web : www.enfocus.com ============================================ "Problems can not be solved at the same level of awareness that created them" "Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new" Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955) ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7-Dec-1999 10:41:30-GMT,3430;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA14826 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 03:41:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA27440; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 04:29:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Dec 1999 04:27:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA27279; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 04:27:02 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] "Dirty" PDF viewing Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 10:35:10 -0000 Message-ID: <001b01bf409e$bcc068c0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > I have Acrobat 4 (full) on my Windows 95 machine with ATI > video drivers. > > Most of the time, PDF's displayed inside the browser and in > > Reader alone can > > have a "dirty smear" across a line or lines of letters. > Remagnifying or > > moving the text out of the viewable area and back in can > get rid of it. > > It's almost dark enough to obscure the letters completely. > I have the same problem on my computer : > > win98 with ATI video drivers (MACXW4.DRV version 4.11.2560) > > But it is a video driver problem and not a problem of > Acrobat. Only large > fonts are dirty on my computer and it comes and goes rather randomly. Problems like this are almost invariably driver problems (or in the card itself) and there is an easy way to find out. Start > Settings > Control Panels Display icon Settings tab Advanced button Performance tab You should now see a setting for Harware acceleration. Pull it all the way over to the left ("none") and OK - it will reboot. If any particular problem now goes away you can be sure it was because of faults in the driver (or video card firmware). I have never yet found a video driver that was bug free, except possibly the generic ones shipped with Windows. Many have awful bugs. There are hundreds of different calls an application may make to drivers, which is why strange errors are often confined to just one application. I often hear people say "I have the latest driver so it can't be that." But this is simply nonsense - the latest driver is as likely as any other to have bugs - sometimes entirely new ones. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7-Dec-1999 14:37:22-GMT,2548;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19286 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 07:37:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA10862; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 08:15:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Dec 1999 08:08:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10279; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 08:08:36 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991207150819.007b8ad0@post.imt.se> X-Sender: mattias.jonsson@post.imt.se X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 15:08:19 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mattias Jonsson Subject: [PDF] Distiller on Win98 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi all. I need some qualified help. When I start my distiller I get this error message. >Error in Proofing.joboptions: >general parser failure The error is the same with all joboptions, my own as well as the ones from Adobe. I've removed the installation and installed again with the same result. If I try to edit the joboptions distiller says it can't open the joboptions file. Have you seen this problem and solved it? I did a search in Adobes tech docs but didn't find anything. I'm on a Gateway 500 with swedish Win98 and swedish Acrobat 4 package. TIA /Mattias Jonsson ************************************ Mattias Jonsson - Project manager The Institute for Media Technology Box 5637 SE-114 86 Stockholm, Sweden Tel: +46(0)8-453 57 02 Cellphone: +46(0)70-777 28 68 Fax: +46(0)8-453 57 57 mailto:mattias.jonsson@imt.se http://www.imt.se ************************************ ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7-Dec-1999 16:46:33-GMT,3708;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA22686 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 09:46:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22043; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 10:27:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Dec 1999 10:23:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21674; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 10:23:31 -0600 Message-ID: <697A4CA51395D111A658AA000400580601CA14A1@NT6> From: "Pottinger, Hardy" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: "Dirty" PDF viewing Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 10:17:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >I have Acrobat 4 (full) on my Windows 95 machine with ATI video drivers. >Most of the time, PDF's displayed inside the browser and in Reader alone can >have a "dirty smear" across a line or lines of letters. Remagnifying or >moving the text out of the viewable area and back in can get rid of it. >It's almost dark enough to obscure the letters completely. Rebecca: What you're hearing about video drivers is true. I, too, have the ATI chipset in my computer (standard equipment on Dells from a year or two ago). Unfortunately, ATI doesn't support their newer driver software being used with OEM video cards, or on-board video chips, such as this one in my Dell. So, unfortunately, you may be stuck with the problem. I've reported the problem to ATI, and their response was to point their finger at Dell. I've reported the problem on the Dell boards, but never had any luck there either. Neither the driver provided by Dell, nor the newer drivers from ATI seem to solve the problem. My laptop (an old Hitachi) has always suffered the same problem (dirty PDF viewing), even back with version 3.x. So, here's the best work-around, until you can purchase a different video card, or a newer computer (be sure to research the video hardware inside... Diamond seems to be making some reliable cards, at least I've had luck with them): turn off the anti-aliasing setting in Acrobat. It's under the general prefs, a little checkbox that says 'smooth text and line art' or something like that. I know, everything looks jaggy with that setting. But the artifacts will disappear, and you may just find that you can now read smaller type. Hopefully, in the future, Adobe and all the millions of hardware manufacturers will manage to get together enough to have products that work well together. LOL! ----------------------------------- HARDY POTTINGER Information Coordinator Orthopaedic Research Society 6300 N River Rd Ste 727 Rosemont, IL 60018-4226 (847)384-4219 / FAX (847)823-0536 pottinger@aaos.org http://www.ors.org ----------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8-Dec-1999 0:11:53-GMT,3256;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA05268 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 17:11:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA24909; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 17:53:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 7 Dec 1999 17:49:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA24555; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 17:49:13 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991207185624.00976100@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 18:56:24 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: [PDF] Non-appearance of PDFs in MSIE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We've seen quite a few messages about PDFs that fail to make an appearance in MSIE when you click a link to them. I don't think that works on *any* of my machines, for example, though it certainly used to. Never worried about it much, but in doing some updates to my site I stumbled across a small PDF that was embedded as an object in an html page rather than linked. Then the light came on. Normally, when I click a link to PDF, Explorer busies itself with something (downloading the PDF I suppose) then does exactly nothing other than blanks out the page. When I clicked on one of these embedded links, I got an error message from Explorer complaining that it couldn't display this thing w/o invoking an ActiveX control, and since I'd told it not to do that, what's a poor browser to do but complain? Aha! Went into MSIE's security options and changed the setting for running ActiveX plugins from "Not on your life, get outa here!" to "Maybe - Ask me first" or words to that effect. And begorrah, I can now see PDFs in Explorer again. The security options in MSIE3 are a little too wide-ranging for my taste. Looks like you pretty much have to give a blanket approval to all things ActiveX before PDFs will work ... there doesn't seem to be any "Ask me" option. Turned everything on, clicked a PDF, it worked, turned it all off again. Guess I won't be viewing PDFs on that box. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8-Dec-1999 12:03:16-GMT,1674;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA19557 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 05:03:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA04649; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 05:45:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Dec 1999 05:40:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA04285; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 05:40:05 -0600 Message-ID: <19991208113952.8063.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [196.12.47.130] From: "jai kumar" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 03:39:52 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; 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Wed, 8 Dec 1999 07:56:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA18771; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 08:40:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Dec 1999 08:38:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA18558; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 08:38:57 -0600 Message-Id: <199912081436.JAA03208@mx03.together.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 09:33:18 -0400 Subject: [PDF] FM to PDF problem. Help!! From: "Philip" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA18554 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Please help! Having problems converting a large FrameMaker (version 5.5) book file into a pdf file. The original FrameMaker book file consists of 10 chapters, and two self-generating files: the Table of Contents and Index. All together, the book is just over 60 MB and must contain a few hundred links (TOC links, index markers, cross references, etc.) I have tried, unsuccessfully, to convert the Frame files to a pdf two different ways. When I do a "save as" from the book file, the application quits at the 50% finished mark or the system freezes. Usually at this point, the tps file (that I can find in the recycle bin) is about 123 MB. I have also tried to print the FrameMaker book file to a PostScript file and then distill that into a pdf. On some occasions I have been able to get a ps file but then, when distilled through Acrobat Distiller and opened in Acrobat Reader 4.0, none of the links are preserved (TOC links, cross-references, and index linksŠnone of these work in the pdf format). To make sure that Distiller and Acrobat were working properly, I did save one of the FrameMaker files (the one opened during the 50% crashes) as a pdf. This did work, and the cross-reference links also worked properly. Is there a certain size that Acrobat Distiller can handle in converting large documents to pdfs? Is the problem that there are too many links for it to manage? Why does the "save as" function always quit at the same point, the 50% mark? I have also tried to distill each chapter separately and then link them all together in Acrobat with the Insert Pages function. While Acrobat does put all pages together into one large pdf and the links within each chapter work, the links across chapters and from the TOC and index do not work. These links, when clicked, call up the original pdf instead of remaining within the collected one. Please help! Having problems converting a large FrameMaker (version 5.5) book file into a pdf file. The original FrameMaker book file consists of 10 chapters, and two self-generating files: the Table of Contents and Index. All together, the book is just over 60 MB and must contain a few hundred links (TOC links, index markers, cross references, etc.) I have tried, unsuccessfully, to convert the Frame files to a pdf two different ways. When I do a "save as" from the book file, the application quits at the 50% finished mark or the system freezes. Usually at this point, the tps file (that I can find in the recycle bin) is about 123 MB. I have also tried to print the FrameMaker book file to a PostScript file and then distill that into a pdf. On some occasions I have been able to get a ps file but then, when distilled through Acrobat Distiller and opened in Acrobat Reader 4.0, none of the links are preserved (TOC links, cross-references, and index linksŠnone of these work in the pdf format). To make sure that Distiller and Acrobat were working properly, I did save one of the FrameMaker files (the one opened during the 50% crashes) as a pdf. This did work, and the cross-reference links also worked properly. Is there a certain size that Acrobat Distiller can handle in converting large documents to pdfs? Is the problem that there are too many links for it to manage? Why does the "save as" function always quit at the same point, the 50% mark? I have also tried to distill each chapter separately and then link them all together in Acrobat with the Insert Pages function. While Acrobat does put all pages together into one large pdf and the links within each chapter work, the links across chapters and from the TOC and index do not work. These links, when clicked, call up the original pdf instead of remaining within the collected one. Any suggestions? Thank you! ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8-Dec-1999 15:06:03-GMT,5509;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA22971 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 08:06:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA20355; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 08:53:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Dec 1999 08:52:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA20211; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 08:52:31 -0600 Message-Id: <199912081450.JAA08278@mx03.together.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 09:46:48 -0400 Subject: [PDF] FrameMaker to PDF problem. Help, please!! From: "Philip" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA20201 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Please help! Having problems converting a large FrameMaker (version 5.5) book file into a pdf file. The original FrameMaker book file consists of 10 chapters, and two self-generating files: the Table of Contents and Index. All together, the book is just over 60 MB and must contain a few hundred links (TOC links, index markers, cross references, etc.) I have tried, unsuccessfully, to convert the Frame files to a pdf two different ways. When I do a "save as" from the book file, the application quits at the 50% finished mark or the system freezes. Usually at this point, the tps file (that I can find in the recycle bin) is about 123 MB. I have also tried to print the FrameMaker book file to a PostScript file and then distill that into a pdf. On some occasions I have been able to get a ps file but then, when distilled through Acrobat Distiller and opened in Acrobat Reader 4.0, none of the links are preserved (TOC links, cross-references, and index linksŠnone of these work in the pdf format). To make sure that Distiller and Acrobat were working properly, I did save one of the FrameMaker files (the one opened during the 50% crashes) as a pdf. This did work, and the cross-reference links also worked properly. Is there a certain size that Acrobat Distiller can handle in converting large documents to pdfs? Is the problem that there are too many links for it to manage? Why does the "save as" function always quit at the same point, the 50% mark? I have also tried to distill each chapter separately and then link them all together in Acrobat with the Insert Pages function. While Acrobat does put all pages together into one large pdf and the links within each chapter work, the links across chapters and from the TOC and index do not work. These links, when clicked, call up the original pdf instead of remaining within the collected one. Please help! Having problems converting a large FrameMaker (version 5.5) book file into a pdf file. The original FrameMaker book file consists of 10 chapters, and two self-generating files: the Table of Contents and Index. All together, the book is just over 60 MB and must contain a few hundred links (TOC links, index markers, cross references, etc.) I have tried, unsuccessfully, to convert the Frame files to a pdf two different ways. When I do a "save as" from the book file, the application quits at the 50% finished mark or the system freezes. Usually at this point, the tps file (that I can find in the recycle bin) is about 123 MB. I have also tried to print the FrameMaker book file to a PostScript file and then distill that into a pdf. On some occasions I have been able to get a ps file but then, when distilled through Acrobat Distiller and opened in Acrobat Reader 4.0, none of the links are preserved (TOC links, cross-references, and index linksŠnone of these work in the pdf format). To make sure that Distiller and Acrobat were working properly, I did save one of the FrameMaker files (the one opened during the 50% crashes) as a pdf. This did work, and the cross-reference links also worked properly. Is there a certain size that Acrobat Distiller can handle in converting large documents to pdfs? Is the problem that there are too many links for it to manage? Why does the "save as" function always quit at the same point, the 50% mark? I have also tried to distill each chapter separately and then link them all together in Acrobat with the Insert Pages function. While Acrobat does put all pages together into one large pdf and the links within each chapter work, the links across chapters and from the TOC and index do not work. These links, when clicked, call up the original pdf instead of remaining within the collected one. Any suggestions? ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8-Dec-1999 16:19:29-GMT,2560;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25020 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 09:19:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA26602; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 09:56:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Dec 1999 09:54:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA26406; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 09:54:15 -0600 Message-ID: <4FFB2DC0BF24D311906100C00D00CC98DF4D@LAZYSV04> From: David Farbey To: "'PDF discussion list'" Subject: [PDF] Web browser integration problem Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 15:55:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Suddenly, I can't open PDF files in my web browser. This is something that used to work and has now stopped working. I am using Acrobat 4.0 on Windows NT Workstation 4 (sp5) and Internet Explorer 5. I have recently installed Microsoft Office 2000. When I _clear_ the Web browser integration check box (in Acrobat 4 File menu - Preferences - General), and then click a link to a PDF file, I am prompted to either download the file or run from the current location. This is the correct behaviour, AFAIK. When I _select_ the Web browser integration check box, and then click a link to a PDF file I see the Adobe Acrobat 4.0 splash screen, and see it loading components, and then I see - nothing! Just a blank IE 5 page, not even a warning message. Please can someone tell me what's gone wrong where and how to fix it? Thanks very much David Farbey Technical Writer Lazy Software Ltd david.farbey@lazysoft.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8-Dec-1999 16:45:31-GMT,2386;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25686 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 09:45:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29423; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 10:27:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Dec 1999 10:25:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29229; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 10:25:16 -0600 From: rick.sapir@glbsoft.com Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 10:40:04 -0500 To: pgdesign@together.net, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] FrameMaker to PDF problem. Hel Receipt-Requested-To: rick.sapir@gsntone.glbsoft.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221040958/221001528/221100226/300440919/ Message-Id: <99Dec8.112505est.115204@gateway.glbsoft.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA29222 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: pgdesign@together.net Subject: [PDF] FrameMaker to PDF problem. Help, p __________________________________________________________________ Please help! Having problems converting a large FrameMaker (version 5.5) book file into a pdf file. [snip] __________________________________________________________________ Make sure you have enough space in the directory where you're spooling your print files. +-------------------> | Rick Sapir | Global Software, Inc. | Raleigh, NC USA | rick.sapir@glbsoft.com +-------------------> ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8-Dec-1999 17:10:36-GMT,2397;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26428 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 10:10:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA31744; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 10:53:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Dec 1999 10:51:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA31566; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 10:51:36 -0600 Message-ID: <88D134552F8BD311ABFF00104B7A9C8D29A11F@DDSMTTAYZ043> From: "Hottman, Dave, CON, OASD(HA)/TMA" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] FrameMaker to PDF problem. Help, please!! Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 11:51:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Phillip >Please help! Having problems converting a large FrameMaker (version 5.5) book file into a pdf file.< Windows? Do you need one monster file for some reason? Have you tried just printing from the book to a file called "*". This will print all of the files in your book to separate ps files. It should keep all of the links intact too. It's on the print dialog. "Print only to file", enter the path to the directory that you want to store the files in (a file called "IN" that distiller can easily find?), then for the part of the the path that you would normally put the file name into (after the last "\", put a single "*"(not *.*). It is in the Framemaker docs but a little hard to find. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8-Dec-1999 17:12:47-GMT,2451;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26490 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 10:12:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA32761; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 11:01:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Dec 1999 10:59:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA32486; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 10:59:34 -0600 Message-ID: <4BC88098C5DDCF11A5E40000F8014BA701F669D9@mshmshois1p.mss.tva.gov> From: "Norman, James Dan" To: "'pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE:Dirty PDF Viewing Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 11:59:29 -0500 Sensitivity: Private MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We have a similar smear problem on our Dell systems. We "fixed" it by setting our default zoom to 125-150% depending on the document. Magnifications in that range seem to be much less prone to smear than a fit visible setting. Hope this helps. As Adobe is touting this as a "universal" electronic publishing tool I hope they fund some research to fix the problem. There are lots of video problems but why should the video card folks care if Acrobat is the only software with this problem. (this is the case in our shop) From the responses this appears to span brands and years of video drivers and cards. Thank you for bringing this issue forward. J. Dan Norman Tennessee Valley Authority 1101 Market St. WR3H-C Chattanooga, TN 37402 423-751-7083(Voice) 423-751-8326(fax) ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8-Dec-1999 21:32:20-GMT,2619;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA03478 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 14:32:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22952; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 15:12:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Dec 1999 15:09:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22624; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 15:09:24 -0600 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9D40@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'Acrobat Talk Mailing List'" , "'PDF Mailing List'" Subject: [PDF] Creating a CD with Acrobat Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 15:08:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am in the process of creating a CD with the runtime version of Acrobat Reader (Windows). Using my Acrobat 4.0 disk, I followed the instructions, and everything works. However, at the time that 4.0 was released, Reader+Search did not exist. I have since had Reader+Search installed on my desktop, but do not have the install CD. It would be very difficult for me to download these documents from the Internet. I tried putting copies of the two added plug-ins, asrch32.api and autidx32.api, plus the vdkhome folder and its contents, into the Reader folder of the CD. I am still getting error messages that autidx32.api cannot load. What else would be necessary to make my 4.0 Reader a 4.0 Reader+Search on the CD? Gary E. Decker, Senior Information Services Analyst WCNOC / Wolf Creek Generating Station "A company with energy!" Burlington, Kansas USA http://www.wcnoc.com MS Windows NT 4.0 SP5/IBM PC 750, P166, 64mb RAM ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8-Dec-1999 21:44:52-GMT,2349;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA03914 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 14:44:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA25034; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 15:34:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Dec 1999 15:33:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA24917; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 15:33:12 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: sjveloff@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9D40@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> References: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9D40@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 15:33:09 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Veloff Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating a CD with Acrobat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >I tried putting copies of the two added plug-ins, asrch32.api and >autidx32.api, plus the vdkhome folder and its contents, into the Reader >folder of the CD. I am still getting error messages that autidx32.api >cannot load. What else would be necessary to make my 4.0 Reader a 4.0 >Reader+Search on the CD? There is a nice, in depth article you can download from the PDFzone.com web site that may have your answers. http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/tips/tip0051.html ----------------------------- Steve Veloff sjveloff@pdfzone.com http://www.pdfzone.com/ PDFzone.com - Web Development ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8-Dec-1999 21:45:13-GMT,2191;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA03928 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 14:45:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA24961; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 15:33:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Dec 1999 15:32:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA24822; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 15:32:12 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Balaji, V." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Links in word or powerpoint Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 16:31:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ When you convert word or excel or powerpoint docs to PDF, using acrobat exchange, is there a easy way to maintain links that are there within the documents. We often have links from one word to a excel doc, or in powerpoint - buttons for next page, or to a particular object on a page (these work in the powerpoint presentation mode). It would be nice to not have to re-create them when converting to PDF. Thank you V. Balaji Sr. Systems Engineer Engineering Support Services Harman Motive, Inc. Ph: (765) 342 5555 x 527 Fax: (765) 349 2857 EMail: balaji@harman.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8-Dec-1999 22:03:10-GMT,2524;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04431 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 15:03:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA26577; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 15:46:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Dec 1999 15:45:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26409; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 15:45:00 -0600 Message-ID: <384ED02F.9836097E@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 17:39:59 -0400 From: Bryan Guignard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Links in word or powerpoint References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > When you convert word or excel or powerpoint docs to PDF, using acrobat > exchange, is there a easy way to maintain links that are there within the > documents. We often have links from one word to a excel doc, or in > powerpoint - buttons for next page, or to a particular object on a page > (these work > in the powerpoint presentation mode). It would be nice to not have to > re-create them when converting to PDF. If you have a recent version of those Microsoft products and the PDFMaker macros then you can indeed keep your links. Check Adobe's website for more info on the PDFMaker macros. This is the easiest way of getting it done. There are other more complicated ways and they are usually as much work as re-creating the links in Exchange so I won't bother to mention them at this time. Bryan Guignard ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8-Dec-1999 22:39:57-GMT,3639;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05405 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 15:39:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA29993; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 16:22:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Dec 1999 16:19:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA29734; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 16:19:57 -0600 Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 14:19:45 -0800 From: "Cutler, Wendy SDES:EX" Subject: RE: [PDF] Links in word or powerpoint To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: <7B6C44615062D3118CB10008C7E6A23CC28FA0@ocean.gov.bc.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Bryan, are your links to another directory on a LAN? Those do not work for me in Acrobat 4.0 (which includes PDFMaker). The links to LAN documents look like links, but they don't function. According to an Acrobat Technical Announcement, the only work around is to move the linked to documents into the same directory as the Word document, recreate the links and then recreate the PDF. See article 323892 in the http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/database.html database. They worked for me in Acrobat 3.0 with the PDFMaker add-in. * ^ * ^ * Wendy Cutler Project Co-ordinator, Application Devl & Support ITB, Ministry of Social Development and Economic Security * mailto:Wendy.Cutler@gems2.gov.bc.ca *(604) 660-1591 Fax: (604)775-0846 -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Guignard [mailto:bryang@nbnet.nb.ca] Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 1999 1:40 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Links in word or powerpoint The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > When you convert word or excel or powerpoint docs to PDF, using acrobat > exchange, is there a easy way to maintain links that are there within the > documents. We often have links from one word to a excel doc, or in > powerpoint - buttons for next page, or to a particular object on a page > (these work > in the powerpoint presentation mode). It would be nice to not have to > re-create them when converting to PDF. If you have a recent version of those Microsoft products and the PDFMaker macros then you can indeed keep your links. Check Adobe's website for more info on the PDFMaker macros. This is the easiest way of getting it done. There are other more complicated ways and they are usually as much work as re-creating the links in Exchange so I won't bother to mention them at this time. Bryan Guignard ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Dec-1999 1:24:40-GMT,3928;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA09361 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 18:24:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA12321; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 19:09:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Dec 1999 19:07:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA12107; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 19:07:18 -0600 From: bilbo@interaccess.com Message-ID: <384F00AC.E093494A@interaccess.com> Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 17:06:52 -0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Need 2nd Browser Window to Open From .pdf file in 1st Window Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Please forgive any typos here, I've gone almost blind from scanning several hundred previous submissions here. No luck so... We are building a website for our research lab. PDF will allow us to present very large charts of DNA sequencing data on the web which contain links to other information e.g. a certain yac clone is linked to it's entrez entry at NCBI and the actual DNA sequence and other information is available for that clone. Alas, the link is made in the same browser window and requires losing the main chart and the ability to do comparisons, etc. We would like to open the outside links in a separate (formattable) browser window. This seems like it would be a basic part of the options in a link command. Seems not to be in 4.0. We have read all the available literature, even bought the Classroom in a Book which was less help than most of the other sources. Tech support tried but had to point out that this did not fall quite into their realm. The natural way to go would seem to be a JS in the forms>button area. We have tried many variations and come up empty. Tech support suggested unchecking the 'Browser Forms Integration' button in the reader but it seems both unadvisable and impractical to ask our visitors to not only save the file but also tinker with their software settings. We have been trying scripts of the general form: var remote = null; function genews() { remote = window.open('', 'genews','toolbar=0,location=0,directories=0,status=0,menubar=0,scrollbars=1,resizable=1,width=650,height=600'); if (remote != null) { if (remote.opener == null) { remote.opener = self; } remote.location.href = "http://www.phrma.org/genomics/today/index.html" remote.focus() } } No joy. It would help us enormously if we could leave the main .pdf in the browser window and, clicking on a link or button in that file, open a second browser window of formattable size and characteristics as above to present the linked site. If someone can advise us of a fix, we will be happy to give credit for the help both in the code and onscreen. Thanks for any help. Replies can also be made to bjorn@fhcrc.org. Bill Bjornson ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Dec-1999 2:47:01-GMT,2131;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA11043 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 19:47:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA21480; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 20:34:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Dec 1999 20:33:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA21216; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 20:33:00 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 18:38:57 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: ddavis Subject: [PDF] form fields Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ doing a multimedia acrobat piece and want to go to a specific page using fields for their sound and muntiple functions etc. is there a way to go to ........lets say page 8 from page 2 without using links (which provide no good sound control other than on page close or open) form fields give the menu function of next page etc. but no numbered page linking thank you all for the help in advance Dick Davis Instructor Shoreline Community College Multimedia/Design ddavis@ctc.edu 206/546-5806 Shoreline Community College 16101 Greenwood Avenue North Seattle, WA 98133-5696 USA ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Dec-1999 3:27:39-GMT,2407;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA11814 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 20:27:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA25891; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 21:13:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Dec 1999 21:12:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA25722; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 21:12:04 -0600 Message-ID: <384F1CDD.48166064@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 23:07:09 -0400 From: Bryan Guignard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] form fields References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > doing a multimedia acrobat piece and want to go to a specific page > using fields for their sound and muntiple functions etc. > > is there a way to go to ........lets say page 8 from page 2 without > using links (which provide no good sound control other than on page > close or open) > > form fields give the menu function of next page etc. but no numbered > page linking > > thank you all for the help in advance Dick, My apologies for the last post. I made a typo. This is the correct version. Just use this javascript code this.pageNum = 2; //this will bring you to page 3 in the document this.pageNum = 39; //this will bring you to page 40 in the document Note: PDF page count starts at 0, not 1 Bryan Guignard ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Dec-1999 3:29:51-GMT,2282;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA11858 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 20:29:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA25800; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 21:12:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Dec 1999 21:10:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA25634; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 21:10:48 -0600 Message-ID: <384F1C8B.CE137F03@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 23:05:47 -0400 From: Bryan Guignard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] form fields References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > doing a multimedia acrobat piece and want to go to a specific page > using fields for their sound and muntiple functions etc. > > is there a way to go to ........lets say page 8 from page 2 without > using links (which provide no good sound control other than on page > close or open) > > form fields give the menu function of next page etc. but no numbered > page linking Just use this javascript code this.pageNum = 2; //this will bring you to page 3 in the document this.page num = 39; //this will bring you to page 40 in the document Note: PDF page count starts at 0, not 1 Bryan Guignard ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Dec-1999 4:05:38-GMT,4895;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA12595 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 21:05:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA28689; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 21:44:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Dec 1999 21:43:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA28552; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 21:43:09 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 22:36:59 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Need 2nd Browser Window to Open From .pdf file in 1st Window From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991209033501.TDE3896.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ If I understand you correctly. What you want is achieved at the user end! In Reader, they must set Open Link in New Window. Then you will still have the original in the background. Let me know when the sites ready, I'd love to see it... -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." (613) 824-2243 EST PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com Articles of Interest (PDF): http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html Web Site of Interest (PDF): http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf ---------- > Please forgive any typos here, I've gone almost blind from scanning > several hundred previous submissions here. No luck so... We are building > a website for our research lab. PDF will allow us to present very large > charts of DNA sequencing data on the web which contain links to other > information e.g. a certain yac clone is linked to it's entrez entry at > NCBI and the actual DNA sequence and other information is available for > that clone. Alas, the link is made in the same browser window and > requires losing the main chart and the ability to do comparisons, etc. > We would like to open the outside links in a separate (formattable) > browser window. This seems like it would be a basic part of the options > in a link command. Seems not to be in 4.0. We have read all the > available literature, even bought the Classroom in a Book which was less > help than most of the other sources. Tech support tried but had to point > out that this did not fall quite into their realm. The natural way to go > would seem to be a JS in the forms>button area. We have tried many > variations and come up empty. Tech support suggested unchecking the > 'Browser Forms Integration' button in the reader but it seems both > unadvisable and impractical to ask our visitors to not only save the > file but also tinker with their software settings. We have been trying > scripts of the general form: > > var remote = null; > function genews() { > remote = window.open('', > 'genews','toolbar=0,location=0,directories=0,status=0,menubar=0,scrollbars=1 ,resizabl > e=1,width=650,height=600'); > > if (remote != null) { > if (remote.opener == null) { > remote.opener = self; > } > remote.location.href = > "http://www.phrma.org/genomics/today/index.html" > remote.focus() > } > } > > > No joy. It would help us enormously if we could leave the main .pdf in > the browser window and, clicking on a link or button in that file, open > a second browser window of formattable size and characteristics as above > to present the linked site. If someone can advise us of a fix, we will > be happy to give credit for the help both in the code and onscreen. > > Thanks for any help. Replies can also be made to bjorn@fhcrc.org. > > Bill Bjornson > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Dec-1999 4:29:29-GMT,2278;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA13041 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 21:29:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA30725; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 22:10:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Dec 1999 22:09:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA30561; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 22:09:19 -0600 From: bilbo@interaccess.com Message-ID: <384F2B51.9C7BA3AA@interaccess.com> Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 20:08:49 -0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Need 2nd Browser Window to Open From .pdf file in 1stWindow References: <19991209033501.TDE3896.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Jason, Thanks for the reply. The thing that we would most like to do is have the 2nd window be formatted to a certain size and remove all the toolbars etc. Just opening a standard window is fine but it will be full sized and also involves the user in an additional step for which we will need to instruct them each time, etc. And I would like to know how to do this anyway for other circumstances. It seems unreasonable that there isn't some relatively simple way to do this so that all the user sees is a regular link, ne? Bill ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Dec-1999 5:07:33-GMT,2153;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA13788 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 22:07:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA32752; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 22:37:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 8 Dec 1999 22:35:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA32631; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 22:35:53 -0600 Message-ID: <95D655C3D17AD31192560090274D930E761AE7@JPTKYMSX5MEDGE> From: "HIWATASHI, HELIO (MED,ID TKY JP )" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Modifying the size of a pdf document Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 13:42:37 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello, I have a pdf document in horizontal A4 size. But the contents ocupy only part of it, more or less 2/3 of mentioned size. Something like below (sorry!(^_^)), |------------- | | blank | | ---------| | | pdf | | | content | | |--------- |--- | Is that possible resize the content to fill up all page? If so, I'll appreciate it. Thanks in advance. GE Yokogawa Medical Systems IDTP Gr. - CT Documentation Team Helio Hiwatashi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Dec-1999 12:51:09-GMT,2644;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA22474 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 05:51:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA32518; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 06:28:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Dec 1999 06:25:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA32307; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 06:25:58 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 07:25:55 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Modifying the size of a pdf document From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991209122354.JPUM3896.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Use the Document Crop feature (this is none destructive), or use Crop Tool from http://www.dionis.com -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." (613) 824-2243 EST PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com Articles of Interest (PDF): http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html Web Site of Interest (PDF): http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf ---------- > Hello, > I have a pdf document in horizontal A4 size. But the contents ocupy only > part of it, more or less 2/3 of mentioned size. > Something like below (sorry!(^_^)), > Is that possible resize the content to fill up all page? > If so, I'll appreciate it. > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Dec-1999 12:53:15-GMT,3493;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA22534 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 05:53:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA00364; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 06:33:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Dec 1999 06:32:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA00256; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 06:32:32 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 07:32:31 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Need 2nd Browser Window to Open From .pdf file in 1stWindow From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991209123030.JRZL3896.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Bill, Just tell the PDF to open to fit document, set the view, and again ensure the user knows to have Open Link in New Window on in Reader. Now for the Browser Window... You could have a default blank page (HTML) on your site/CD-ROM, that is the proportions you want. Call it from the link. The Link will need to be multi-action (form field), then the next action can call the PDF. (Note I haven't had time to try this yet, I'm a little busy as the world wants everything done by January 1, 2000. Any questions, please feel free to ask, I will be trying to implement something like this for a client in January (she's not worried about no bugs!) -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." (613) 824-2243 EST PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com Articles of Interest (PDF): http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html Web Site of Interest (PDF): http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf ---------- > Thanks for the reply. The thing that we would most like to do is have > the 2nd window be formatted to a certain size and remove all the > toolbars etc. Just opening a standard window is fine but it will be full > sized and also involves the user in an additional step for which we will > need to instruct them each time, etc. And I would like to know how to do > this anyway for other circumstances. It seems unreasonable that there > isn't some relatively simple way to do this so that all the user sees is > a regular link, ne? ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Dec-1999 16:58:30-GMT,3107;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA28500 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 09:58:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA20047; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 10:37:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Dec 1999 10:29:47 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19261; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 10:29:45 -0600 From: bilbo@interaccess.com Message-ID: <384FD8E0.F40AAAD4@interaccess.com> Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 08:29:20 -0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Need 2nd Browser Window to Open From .pdf file in1stWindow References: <19991209123030.JRZL3896.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Jason, Ah... one of the things that I failed to mention was that these charts are rather large (e.g. 108 inches wide in Illustrator) which is not so important, but will contain at least several hundred links! We have sequenced 2.3 megabases of an area of the genome called the Major Histocompatibility Complex which directs the actions of much of the body's immune defense and is an area that contains many genes whose various alleles are thought responsible for much human disease. We want to include links to the various sequences, their known expression products, variations (mutations), and other data. Our main interest is ichiban ease and invisible operation to the visitor and, to this end, we may have to abandon using Acrobat and turn to Flash 3 which has a very simple link setting that includes choosing "self" or "blank" or "parent", etc in the link setup. We would prefer to use Adobe for other reasons but, regrettably, Adobe seems to feel that this feature is not important in Acrobat presentations. Ultimately we may want to build this entire operation in Java but our Java programmer is thoroughly involved in building databases for other uses and it is left to us lesser souls to put together our website (sigh). I apologize for not making the situation more clear in my initial posting. Thanks for responding to our need. Bill Bjornson ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Dec-1999 17:14:20-GMT,1989;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28972 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 10:14:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21847; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 10:53:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Dec 1999 10:49:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21388; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 10:49:35 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.2.1 Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 10:49:24 -0600 From: "Paul Kevin Schulte" To: Subject: [PDF] Re: FM to PDF problem. Help!! Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Philip, Snipped: ... when distilled through Acrobat Distiller and opened in Acrobat Reader 4.0, none of the links are preserved (TOC links, cross-references, and index linksSnone of these work in the pdf format). End snipping Just a simple thing to check: Have you turned on the generate Acrobat data in the print dialog box? You can also edit how your bookmarks will appear. Others have mentioned other fizes. Paul ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Dec-1999 17:17:25-GMT,4170;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29044 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 10:17:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22054; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 10:54:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Dec 1999 10:51:02 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21561; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 10:51:01 -0600 Message-ID: <000901bf4265$614e1320$324370d8@concentric.net> From: "Michael Olenick" To: References: <19991209123030.JRZL3896.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> <384FD8E0.F40AAAD4@interaccess.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Need 2nd Browser Window to Open From .pdf file in1stWindow Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 08:49:36 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Why not just use HTML and imagemaps? Cross-referencing academic material is what HTML was designed for and there are lots of nice imagemap editors around. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 8:29 AM Subject: Re: [PDF] Need 2nd Browser Window to Open From .pdf file in1stWindow > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > > Hi Jason, > > Ah... one of the things that I failed to mention was that these charts > are rather large (e.g. 108 inches wide in Illustrator) which is not so > important, but will contain at least several hundred links! We have > sequenced 2.3 megabases of an area of the genome called the Major > Histocompatibility Complex which directs the actions of much of the > body's immune defense and is an area that contains many genes whose > various alleles are thought responsible for much human disease. We want > to include links to the various sequences, their known expression > products, variations (mutations), and other data. Our main interest is > ichiban ease and invisible operation to the visitor and, to this end, we > may have to abandon using Acrobat and turn to Flash 3 which has a very > simple link setting that includes choosing "self" or "blank" or > "parent", etc in the link setup. We would prefer to use Adobe for other > reasons but, regrettably, Adobe seems to feel that this feature is not > important in Acrobat presentations. Ultimately we may want to build this > entire operation in Java but our Java programmer is thoroughly involved > in building databases for other uses and it is left to us lesser souls > to put together our website (sigh). I apologize for not making the > situation more clear in my initial posting. Thanks for responding to our > need. > > Bill Bjornson > > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Dec-1999 17:45:24-GMT,2246;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29819 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 10:45:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24913; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 11:25:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Dec 1999 11:21:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24544; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 11:21:23 -0600 From: bilbo@interaccess.com Message-ID: <384FE4FA.807812A9@interaccess.com> Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 09:20:58 -0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Need 2nd Browser Window to Open From .pdf file in1stWindow References: <19991209123030.JRZL3896.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> <384FD8E0.F40AAAD4@interaccess.com> <000901bf4265$614e1320$324370d8@concentric.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Michael, Tried imagemaps first. Vector graphics is really the only practical way to present the entirety at once so that a person can not only zoom to the appropriate size (and still have something more than vague clumps of pixels) but also be able to slide the image around to browse the neighboring material (hand tool) without needing to go back to the index. Also, image maps of this sort would be enormous. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Dec-1999 17:45:26-GMT,2955;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29823 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 10:45:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25291; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 11:28:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Dec 1999 11:24:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24811; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 11:24:48 -0600 From: "Ron Nelson" To: Subject: [PDF] RE: pdf-digest for December-9-99 [V2 #681] Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 11:25:55 -0600 Message-ID: <000101bf426a$7379c530$5ae1d4d0@wavetech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <199912091629.KAA19282@everglades.binc.net> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Please help! Having problems converting a large FrameMaker > (version 5.5) > book file into a pdf file. > > > I have also tried to print the FrameMaker book file to a > PostScript file and > then distill that into a pdf. On some occasions I have been > able to get a ps > file but then, when distilled through Acrobat Distiller and opened in > Acrobat Reader 4.0, none of the links are preserved (TOC links, > cross-references, and index linksSnone of these work in the > pdf format). Hello all, I'm on the digest so forgive me if this info has already been passed on ad nauseum. First of all, don't bother using the Save As feature in Frame - it's supposed to work but we've been warned many times on the Framers lists that it just don't. Next, in your print dialog box in FrameMaker, be sure to check Generate Acrobat Data. You can also go into the Acrobat Setup dialog right there and set your bookmarks. This should preserve all links, cross-references, et al. Hope that helps a bit Ron Nelson Wave Technologies "I'm a peripheral visionary." Stephen Wright ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Dec-1999 18:03:14-GMT,3052;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00297 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 11:03:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA26935; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 11:44:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Dec 1999 11:39:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26457; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 11:39:52 -0600 Message-ID: From: "McClure, Mary M" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Faint "Cut Lines" from WordPerfect files Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 12:39:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thanks for the suggestion, Jason. Dov Isaacs from Adobe has spent some time looking at the files and he thinks the problem is that the graphics are placed on top of dark backgrounds, and some of the background is peeking around the edges. -----Original Message----- From: Jason Belec [mailto:pdfworkflows@home.com] Sent: Monday, December 06, 1999 2:45 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Faint "Cut Lines" from WordPerfect files Mary, The applications you have mentioned, tend to do some strange things with certain types of graphics. Especially if those graphics are EPS images. And the use of PDFWriter compounds these errors. The software brakes certain images up, far more than is necessary, resulting in some background showing through sometimes. Try regenerating the PDF with Distiller 3.02 or 4.0 or later. -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF ---------- >> I've got a guy who's developed a document in WordPerfect. To quote him, >> "which was distilled from a Corel WordPerfect file". I believed he tried >> using both PDFWriter and Distiller 3.0X on a Windows platform. The >> problem is when he prints the resulting PDF he gets faint "cut lines" >> partially surrounding some of his graphics. Sometimes the lines are above >> the graphic, sometimes below, and sometimes a combination of top, bottom, >> and sides. >> ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Dec-1999 19:58:56-GMT,3128;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03714 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 12:58:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05082; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 13:41:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Dec 1999 13:38:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04751; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 13:38:20 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <384FE4FA.807812A9@interaccess.com> References: <19991209123030.JRZL3896.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> <384FD8E0.F40AAAD4@interaccess.com> <000901bf4265$614e1320$324370d8@concentric.net> <384FE4FA.807812A9@interaccess.com> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 14:26:35 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: Re: [PDF] Need 2nd Browser Window to Open From .pdf file in1stWindow Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA04738 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 9:20 AM -0800 12/9/99, bilbo@interaccess.com wrote: >Tried imagemaps first. Vector graphics is really the only practical way >to present the entirety at once so that a person can not only zoom to >the appropriate size (and still have something more than vague clumps of >pixels) but also be able to slide the image around to browse the >neighboring material (hand tool) without needing to go back to the >index. Also, image maps of this sort would be enormous. > So what about using SVG ()? It's still a bit new, and will require plug-ins for browsers - but it should solve all your problems... Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Dec-1999 20:37:35-GMT,2985;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA04843 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 13:37:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09179; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 14:19:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Dec 1999 14:17:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08905; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 14:17:08 -0600 From: bilbo@interaccess.com Message-ID: <38500E2A.FFFA93D6@interaccess.com> Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 12:16:42 -0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Need 2nd Browser Window to Open From .pdf filein1stWindow References: <19991209123030.JRZL3896.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> <384FD8E0.F40AAAD4@interaccess.com> <000901bf4265$614e1320$324370d8@concentric.net> <384FE4FA.807812A9@interaccess.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Leonard, Thanks you very much for the eye opener! I have been asleep. It took only a glance at the URL that you sent and at some of the linked material to convince me where my ongoing education is headed next. But, for the current problem, and for a Bear of such Small Brain as I, SVG presents a significant lag time both in my prep and in user convenience (e.g. viewer). Obviously SVG will answer questions such as I have now, but not conveniently for a time yet. I still would like to learn how to simply open a 2nd defined browser window from within a browser presented Acrobat file. Flash 3 has this (well, open a 'blank' window) as a selectable option in link setup. I would prefer to use Acrobat for this app. but may have to use Flash. Somehow this seems like such a routine option that I'm a bit surprised that Adobe appears to have overlooked it. In any case, even if I never get to do what I hope to do with the .pdf, you have made this effort worthwhile with your pointing out to me the coming SVG (can we say?) revolution. Thank you very much, Bill Bjornson ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Dec-1999 21:51:48-GMT,1737;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06934 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 14:51:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA16213; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 15:33:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Dec 1999 15:29:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15808; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 15:29:52 -0600 Message-ID: <38501F0E.A2B57DB0@nexo.es> Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 22:28:46 +0100 From: Vicen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] i =?iso-8859-1?Q?don=B4t?= want receive more e-mails please References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Dec-1999 22:18:30-GMT,3418;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07725 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 15:18:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA19410; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 16:07:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Dec 1999 16:05:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA19145; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 16:05:00 -0600 Message-ID: <3850274F.E1F3561F@alliedmachine.com> Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 17:03:59 -0500 From: "Rob McKinley" Organization: Allied Machine & Engineering Corp. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] controlled docs in Netscape (don't want to save) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Our company is in the process of developing a paperless controlled document distribution system. We are using pdf's to facilitate this system. This system will distribute sensitive engineering documents and other information to approximately 500 users. In order to comply with ISO9000 regulations, these files must be controlled. Users must not be allowed to copy them to computers around the network -- the files must reside on the server. Also, for obvious reasons, the files must not fall into the possession of competitive companies. We are using Netscape as the navigation tool to allow users to quickly locate and view the documents through the Acrobat Reader Plugin. We are using Mission Control to customize Netscape and control its ability to cache files on the user's computer. However, the acrobat reader plugin displays a save button on the toolbar. This button must be removed. It allows users to easily save controlled documents anywhere on the network -- violating ISO9000 regulations. We are seeking assistance in one of three options: Either 1. Locating a plugin that has already been developed to solve this issue or 2. modifying the Acrobat Reader Plugin ourselves for Netscape or 3. developing our own custom Netscape plugin. However, if there is a developer willing and able to provide us with an Acrobat Reader Plugin for Netscape that complies with ISO9000 regulations, we would be interested in speaking with him or her soon in order to implement this system as quickly as possible. We appreciate any assistance you can offer. -- Robert McKinley Design Engineer Allied Machine & Engineering Corp. 330-343-4283 ext. 7283 FAX 364-7666 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Dec-1999 23:32:28-GMT,2799;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA09652 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 16:32:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25581; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 17:12:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Dec 1999 17:08:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25069; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 17:08:02 -0600 Message-Id: <199912092307.PAA21650@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 15:10:37 -0800 Subject: [PDF] Byteserving Image+hidden text PDFs From: "C. Scott Miller" To: PDF Zone , Richard Crocker , Karl De Abrew , Kurt Foss CC: Tony McKinley Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have a client that has about 30,000 optimized image+hidden text PDFs that they want to make available through the web. They report that "byteserving" does not appear to work with these documents. They have been checking through all of Adobe's Byteserving Troubleshooting variables but I don't see any reference there or in my documents to an obvious question - does byteserving only work with normal PDFs, or should it also work with other PDF types? Functionally, I can imagine byteserving not being particularly impressive with large PDFs over the internet - and theirs are about 2500K per page. Also, it is possible that they are successfully byteserving but not seeing it. Is there any clear indicator that byteserving is working besides apparent performance improvement? -- Thanks, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.pdfresearch.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Dec-1999 1:57:59-GMT,1892;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA12760 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 18:57:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA03395; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 19:42:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Dec 1999 19:37:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA03111; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 19:37:55 -0600 Message-ID: <38505A7C.FFCB35E5@acc.com> Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 17:42:20 -0800 From: Paul Kretschmer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] script for adding a bookmark to a set of files? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ PDFers, Does anybody know of an easy way to add the same bookmark (in this case, a bookmark to open another file, the TOC) to a set of files? We have over 80 files and would like a way to automate this task. Thanks, Paul ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Dec-1999 2:05:22-GMT,3240;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA12887 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 19:05:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA04394; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 19:53:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Dec 1999 19:51:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA04218; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 19:51:27 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 20:51:04 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Byteserving Image+hidden text PDFs From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991210014923.FATX3896.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Do they have 'download in background' turned on in Reader? This defies Byte-serving. And is usually the problem. I bet I can make the pages smaller? -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." (613) 824-2243 EST PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com Articles of Interest (PDF): http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html Web Site of Interest (PDF): http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf ---------- > I have a client that has about 30,000 optimized image+hidden text PDFs that > they want to make available through the web. They report that "byteserving" > does not appear to work with these documents. > > They have been checking through all of Adobe's Byteserving Troubleshooting > variables but I don't see any reference there or in my documents to an > obvious question - does byteserving only work with normal PDFs, or should it > also work with other PDF types? > > Functionally, I can imagine byteserving not being particularly impressive > with large PDFs over the internet - and theirs are about 2500K per page. > > Also, it is possible that they are successfully byteserving but not seeing > it. Is there any clear indicator that byteserving is working besides > apparent performance improvement? > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Dec-1999 2:05:22-GMT,2708;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA12888 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 19:05:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA04620; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 19:55:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Dec 1999 19:53:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA04357; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 19:53:04 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 20:52:57 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] script for adding a bookmark to a set of files? From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991210015059.FCCI3896.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Are you on a Mac? BBEdit has this capability, you have have it pace the Bookmark info into the PDF, or multiple PDF's. http://www.barebones.com Very fast, and Applescript friendly. Set once and forget. -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." (613) 824-2243 EST PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com Articles of Interest (PDF): http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html Web Site of Interest (PDF): http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf ---------- > > Does anybody know of an easy way to add the same bookmark (in this case, > a bookmark to open another file, the TOC) to a set of files? > > We have over 80 files and would like a way to automate this task. > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Dec-1999 5:49:20-GMT,4131;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA17282 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 22:49:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA18252; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 23:33:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Dec 1999 23:30:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA17929; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 23:30:03 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 07:32:31 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Need 2nd Browser Window to Open From .pdf file in 1stWindow From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991209123030.JRZL3896.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Bill, Just tell the PDF to open to fit document, set the view, and again ensure the user knows to have Open Link in New Window on in Reader. Now for the Browser Window... You could have a default blank page (HTML) on your site/CD-ROM, that is the proportions you want. Call it from the link. The Link will need to be multi-action (form field), then the next action can call the PDF. (Note I haven't had time to try this yet, I'm a little busy as the world wants everything done by January 1, 2000. Any questions, please feel free to ask, I will be trying to implement something like this for a client in January (she's not worried about no bugs!) -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." (613) 824-2243 EST PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com Articles of Interest (PDF): http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html Web Site of Interest (PDF): http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf ---------- > Thanks for the reply. The thing that we would most like to do is have > the 2nd window be formatted to a certain size and remove all the > toolbars etc. Just opening a standard window is fine but it will be full > sized and also involves the user in an additional step for which we will > need to instruct them each time, etc. And I would like to know how to do > this anyway for other circumstances. It seems unreasonable that there > isn't some relatively simple way to do this so that all the user sees is > a regular link, ne? ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Dec-1999 5:51:54-GMT,2769;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA17351 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 22:51:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA18520; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 23:36:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 9 Dec 1999 23:33:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA18258; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 23:33:58 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 18:38:57 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: ddavis Subject: [PDF] form fields Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ doing a multimedia acrobat piece and want to go to a specific page using fields for their sound and muntiple functions etc. is there a way to go to ........lets say page 8 from page 2 without using links (which provide no good sound control other than on page close or open) form fields give the menu function of next page etc. but no numbered page linking thank you all for the help in advance Dick Davis Instructor Shoreline Community College Multimedia/Design ddavis@ctc.edu 206/546-5806 Shoreline Community College 16101 Greenwood Avenue North Seattle, WA 98133-5696 USA ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Dec-1999 8:47:40-GMT,2883;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA20843 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 01:47:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA29232; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 02:31:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Dec 1999 02:28:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA28978; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 02:28:18 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Byteserving Image+hidden text PDFs Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 08:36:13 -0000 Message-ID: <000e01bf42e9$9e6cb200$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199912092307.PAA21650@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I have a client that has about 30,000 optimized image+hidden > text PDFs that > they want to make available through the web. They report that > "byteserving" > does not appear to work with these documents....and theirs are about > 2500K per page. 1. Some versions of IE and Acrobat (perhaps all versions) will not byteserve or even display correctly a file whose total size is over 4000K. 2. This size is just ludicrous. It may be acceptable on CDROM or local networks, but it is just a non-starter for the web. The average user might have to wait about half an hour PER PAGE even with byteserving working. They would certainly need the patience of saints. (I'd like to suggest that Quite A Box Of Tricks might help in reducing the size of these, by recompressing, and reducing the quality of the image. A reduced quality collection for the web is the only way you are likely to succeed. The latest version works with callas pdfBatchProcess Pro and could be used to shrink and re-optimize a complete folder). Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Dec-1999 8:52:12-GMT,2982;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA19913 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 00:55:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA26558; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 01:47:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Dec 1999 01:42:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA26227; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 01:42:50 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 23:39:06 -0800 From: "Duff Johnson" To: , , , , Cc: Subject: Re: [PDF] Byteserving Image+hidden text PDFs Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >I have a client that has about 30,000 optimized >image+hidden text PDFs that >they want to make available through the web. They >report that "byteserving" >does not appear to work with these documents. > >They have been checking through all of Adobe's >Byteserving Troubleshooting >variables but I don't see any reference there or >in my documents to an >obvious question - does byteserving only work >with normal PDFs, or should it >also work with other PDF types? It works with all PDF types. Jason's suggestion is a good one. >Functionally, I can imagine byteserving not being >particularly impressive >with large PDFs over the internet - and theirs >are about 2500K per page. That's an insane page size... what's up there? Compression-free images? If these are I+T files at high-res in full color, I pity them... >Also, it is possible that they are successfully >byteserving but not seeing >it. Is there any clear indicator that byteserving >is working besides >apparent performance improvement? Absolutely. Initiate a download into the Reader plug-in on a file large enough to require some time for a complete download. If page one appears before the file download is complete, the file is being byteserved. Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. www.document-solutions.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Dec-1999 13:48:11-GMT,4594;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA25672 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 06:48:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA15599; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 07:38:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Dec 1999 07:33:47 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA15219; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 07:33:45 -0600 X-Server-Uuid: fc96bae8-3f98-11d2-a40d-00805f199815 Message-ID: From: "Kinstle, Joel" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] controlled docs in Netscape (don't want to save) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 07:33:30 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) X-WSS-ID: 144FDEA1239041-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I don't know if it can override local reader settings, but maybe the Adobe Document Server could help. I've not gotten much information on it past the basics. It's a server-side item that sends out some form of file that people without Reader can display. You might be able to tweak it such that it ignores local readers and only appears as you like it to, without a save button. Anyone know more details? Joel Kinstle -----Original Message----- From: Rob McKinley [mailto:rmckinley@alliedmachine.com] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 5:04 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] controlled docs in Netscape (don't want to save) The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Our company is in the process of developing a paperless controlled document distribution system. We are using pdf's to facilitate this system. This system will distribute sensitive engineering documents and other information to approximately 500 users. In order to comply with ISO9000 regulations, these files must be controlled. Users must not be allowed to copy them to computers around the network -- the files must reside on the server. Also, for obvious reasons, the files must not fall into the possession of competitive companies. We are using Netscape as the navigation tool to allow users to quickly locate and view the documents through the Acrobat Reader Plugin. We are using Mission Control to customize Netscape and control its ability to cache files on the user's computer. However, the acrobat reader plugin displays a save button on the toolbar. This button must be removed. It allows users to easily save controlled documents anywhere on the network -- violating ISO9000 regulations. We are seeking assistance in one of three options: Either 1. Locating a plugin that has already been developed to solve this issue or 2. modifying the Acrobat Reader Plugin ourselves for Netscape or 3. developing our own custom Netscape plugin. However, if there is a developer willing and able to provide us with an Acrobat Reader Plugin for Netscape that complies with ISO9000 regulations, we would be interested in speaking with him or her soon in order to implement this system as quickly as possible. We appreciate any assistance you can offer. -- Robert McKinley Design Engineer Allied Machine & Engineering Corp. 330-343-4283 ext. 7283 FAX 364-7666 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Dec-1999 13:48:11-GMT,2870;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA25673 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 06:48:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA15598; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 07:38:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Dec 1999 07:36:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA15486; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 07:36:47 -0600 Message-ID: From: Jose Mera To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] script for adding a bookmark to a set of files? Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 08:39:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ InfoLinker, an Adobe Acrobat plug-in from DocMaestro Products, automates many bookmarking and linking functions. If you provide me more details offline, I can let you know if it'll solve your problem. Jose Mera VP DocMaestro Products Div. ISPA, Inc. 1700 McMullen Booth Rd., Suite C-3 Clearwater, Fl 33759 Phone: 727-669-8911 Fax: 727-669-6410 -----Original Message----- From: Paul Kretschmer [mailto:pkretsch@acc.com] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 8:42 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] script for adding a bookmark to a set of files? The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ PDFers, Does anybody know of an easy way to add the same bookmark (in this case, a bookmark to open another file, the TOC) to a set of files? We have over 80 files and would like a way to automate this task. Thanks, Paul ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Dec-1999 15:14:40-GMT,2560;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA27398 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 08:14:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA23052; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 09:04:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Dec 1999 09:02:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA22908; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 09:02:11 -0600 Message-ID: <2v010FAfXNU4EwNy@merlin-os.co.uk> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 10:28:47 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David R Evans Subject: Re: [PDF] script for adding a bookmark to a set of files? In-Reply-To: <38505A7C.FFCB35E5@acc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03a Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ In message <38505A7C.FFCB35E5@acc.com>, Paul Kretschmer wrote: >Does anybody know of an easy way to add the same bookmark (in this case, >a bookmark to open another file, the TOC) to a set of files? > >We have over 80 files and would like a way to automate this task. Yes, you can use the Copy Hyperfeatures facility in our Options plug-in to do this. See our web site for an evaluation version. Regards David Evans --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr David R Evans Telephone: (+44) 115 9860048 / 9514230 Merlin Open Systems Facsimile: (+44) 115 9860048 P O Box 230 E-mail: dre@merlin-os.co.uk NOTTINGHAM WWW: http://www.merlin-os.co.uk/ NG2 1LJ, UK Acrobat resellers, specialists in Adobe Acrobat plug-ins and electronic publishing software, publishers of Acrobatics ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10-Dec-1999 18:08:48-GMT,2036;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA02339 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 11:08:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05251; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 11:52:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 10 Dec 1999 11:46:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04603; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 11:46:36 -0600 Message-Id: <199912101746.JAA11222@wren.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 08:24:14 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Byteserving Image+hidden text PDFs From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > This size is just ludicrous. Duff and Aandi - I know. I don't know who the vendor was but I will forward Aandi's re-compression workflow recommendations to the client. -- Thanks! C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.pdfresearch.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Dec-1999 1:11:38-GMT,2118;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA05456 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 18:11:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA08921; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 18:57:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 12 Dec 1999 18:50:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA08364; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 18:50:11 -0600 Message-ID: <524A333ECC0AD3119FC300805F8513890319976F@perm02.woodside.com.au> From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Relative Pathnames not so relative Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 08:49:06 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am experiencing problems with PDF links (GOTOVIEW Links) that are set on a local Server, when the PDF is moved to another server the links are pointing back to the original server name and path (and causing problems with Network traffic). The PDF in concern is my navigation menu - it has links to about 70 PDF files setup in a relative directory structure. Has anyone seen this? 128 Mg Ram/NT 4 SP4/Acro3&4/8 Fingers/2 Thumbs. Dave............ ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Dec-1999 11:14:23-GMT,3411;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA16744 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 04:14:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA11846; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 05:04:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Dec 1999 05:01:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA11640; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 05:01:55 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 18:38:57 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: ddavis Subject: [PDF] form fields Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ doing a multimedia acrobat piece and want to go to a specific page using fields for their sound and muntiple functions etc. is there a way to go to ........lets say page 8 from page 2 without using links (which provide no good sound control other than on page close or open) form fields give the menu function of next page etc. but no numbered page linking thank you all for the help in advance Dick Davis Instructor Shoreline Community College Multimedia/Design ddavis@ctc.edu 206/546-5806 Shoreline Community College 16101 Greenwood Avenue North Seattle, WA 98133-5696 USA ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Dec-1999 12:23:13-GMT,2943;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA17954 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 05:23:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA16314; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 06:14:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Dec 1999 06:12:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA16200; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 06:12:51 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 07:12:49 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Relative Pathnames not so relative From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991213121045.JURK16371.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ That is correct, you have hardwired them into the code. A good text editor will allow you to quickly alter these. On the Mac, use BBEdit, it will allow you to make changes to a large number of files at once. I'm still not sure which app would be good on NT. -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." (613) 824-2243 EST PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com Articles of Interest (PDF): http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html Web Site of Interest (PDF): http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf ---------- > I am experiencing problems with PDF links (GOTOVIEW Links) that are set on a > local Server, when the PDF is moved to another server the links are > pointing back to the original server name and path (and causing problems > with Network traffic). The PDF in concern is my navigation menu - it has > links to about 70 PDF files setup in a relative directory structure. > > Has anyone seen this? > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Dec-1999 12:23:48-GMT,2937;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA17969 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 05:23:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA16512; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 06:16:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Dec 1999 06:15:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA16410; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 06:15:22 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 07:15:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] form fields From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991213121312.JUXG16371.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Destination's as links will allow you to set a sound when a page closes, opens, or set a javascript to determine which buttin you hit, and then activate the appropriate sound. However this last idea will work with any link that is going to the chosen page. -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." (613) 824-2243 EST PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com Articles of Interest (PDF): http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html Web Site of Interest (PDF): http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf ---------- > doing a multimedia acrobat piece and want to go to a specific page > using fields for their sound and muntiple functions etc. > > is there a way to go to ........lets say page 8 from page 2 without > using links (which provide no good sound control other than on page > close or open) > > form fields give the menu function of next page etc. but no numbered > page linking > > thank you all for the help in advance > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Dec-1999 14:21:43-GMT,5232;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA20008 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 07:21:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA24200; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 08:11:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Dec 1999 08:08:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA23932; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 08:08:51 -0600 X-Server-Uuid: fc96bae8-3f98-11d2-a40d-00805f199815 Message-ID: From: "Kinstle, Joel" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] controlled docs in Netscape (don't want to save) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 07:33:30 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) X-WSS-ID: 144FDEA1239041-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I don't know if it can override local reader settings, but maybe the Adobe Document Server could help. I've not gotten much information on it past the basics. It's a server-side item that sends out some form of file that people without Reader can display. You might be able to tweak it such that it ignores local readers and only appears as you like it to, without a save button. Anyone know more details? Joel Kinstle -----Original Message----- From: Rob McKinley [mailto:rmckinley@alliedmachine.com] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 5:04 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] controlled docs in Netscape (don't want to save) The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Our company is in the process of developing a paperless controlled document distribution system. We are using pdf's to facilitate this system. This system will distribute sensitive engineering documents and other information to approximately 500 users. In order to comply with ISO9000 regulations, these files must be controlled. Users must not be allowed to copy them to computers around the network -- the files must reside on the server. Also, for obvious reasons, the files must not fall into the possession of competitive companies. We are using Netscape as the navigation tool to allow users to quickly locate and view the documents through the Acrobat Reader Plugin. We are using Mission Control to customize Netscape and control its ability to cache files on the user's computer. However, the acrobat reader plugin displays a save button on the toolbar. This button must be removed. It allows users to easily save controlled documents anywhere on the network -- violating ISO9000 regulations. We are seeking assistance in one of three options: Either 1. Locating a plugin that has already been developed to solve this issue or 2. modifying the Acrobat Reader Plugin ourselves for Netscape or 3. developing our own custom Netscape plugin. However, if there is a developer willing and able to provide us with an Acrobat Reader Plugin for Netscape that complies with ISO9000 regulations, we would be interested in speaking with him or her soon in order to implement this system as quickly as possible. We appreciate any assistance you can offer. -- Robert McKinley Design Engineer Allied Machine & Engineering Corp. 330-343-4283 ext. 7283 FAX 364-7666 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Dec-1999 14:22:26-GMT,4773;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA20031 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 07:22:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA24412; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 08:13:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Dec 1999 08:12:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA24337; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 08:12:42 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 07:32:31 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Need 2nd Browser Window to Open From .pdf file in 1stWindow From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991209123030.JRZL3896.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Bill, Just tell the PDF to open to fit document, set the view, and again ensure the user knows to have Open Link in New Window on in Reader. Now for the Browser Window... You could have a default blank page (HTML) on your site/CD-ROM, that is the proportions you want. Call it from the link. The Link will need to be multi-action (form field), then the next action can call the PDF. (Note I haven't had time to try this yet, I'm a little busy as the world wants everything done by January 1, 2000. Any questions, please feel free to ask, I will be trying to implement something like this for a client in January (she's not worried about no bugs!) -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." (613) 824-2243 EST PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com Articles of Interest (PDF): http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html Web Site of Interest (PDF): http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf ---------- > Thanks for the reply. The thing that we would most like to do is have > the 2nd window be formatted to a certain size and remove all the > toolbars etc. Just opening a standard window is fine but it will be full > sized and also involves the user in an additional step for which we will > need to instruct them each time, etc. And I would like to know how to do > this anyway for other circumstances. It seems unreasonable that there > isn't some relatively simple way to do this so that all the user sees is > a regular link, ne? ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Dec-1999 14:28:33-GMT,3508;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA20145 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 07:28:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA25187; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 08:20:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Dec 1999 08:19:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA24956; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 08:18:59 -0600 Message-ID: From: Jose Mera To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] script for adding a bookmark to a set of files? Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 08:39:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ InfoLinker, an Adobe Acrobat plug-in from DocMaestro Products, automates many bookmarking and linking functions. If you provide me more details offline, I can let you know if it'll solve your problem. Jose Mera VP DocMaestro Products Div. ISPA, Inc. 1700 McMullen Booth Rd., Suite C-3 Clearwater, Fl 33759 Phone: 727-669-8911 Fax: 727-669-6410 -----Original Message----- From: Paul Kretschmer [mailto:pkretsch@acc.com] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 8:42 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] script for adding a bookmark to a set of files? The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ PDFers, Does anybody know of an easy way to add the same bookmark (in this case, a bookmark to open another file, the TOC) to a set of files? We have over 80 files and would like a way to automate this task. Thanks, Paul ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Dec-1999 14:53:30-GMT,2263;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA20598 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 07:53:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA27419; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 08:42:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Dec 1999 08:41:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA27229; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 08:41:15 -0600 Message-ID: <3854BFA0.3EE02737@novejan.com> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 09:43:02 +0000 From: Tanya Renne Organization: Novejan Resources X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] abnormally HUGE file Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am converting a rather simple Quark document to PDF - the original has one small logo and several text boxes and links but is otherwise a simple document. In its raw form it is 125k. When I convert it to pdf - using Acrobat PDFwriter I get a file that is 900k. I have tried including fonts - 900k excluding fonts 400k (still huge given the original document). I've tried no color (its just two colors now) still 900k. I've optimized - no appreciable difference. There is nothing wrong with my set-up as I have converted other more complicated documents that save appropriately. Wisdom? ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Dec-1999 16:21:24-GMT,2231;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA22630 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 09:21:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01220; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:05:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:03:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00983; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:03:09 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] abnormally HUGE file Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:02:51 -0000 Message-ID: <000f01bf4583$82d51c20$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3854BFA0.3EE02737@novejan.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I am converting a rather simple Quark document to PDF - the > original has > one small logo and several text boxes and links but is otherwise a > simple document. In its raw form it is 125k. When I convert > it to pdf - > using Acrobat PDFwriter I get a file that is 900k. Don't use PDFWriter with QuarkXPress. Ever. It just isn't suitable, for many reasons including this one. Use Distiller. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Dec-1999 17:01:54-GMT,1910;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23748 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:01:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04746; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:49:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:47:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA04427; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:47:04 -0600 X-Sender: castidata@mail.compusmart.ab.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 09:48:20 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kevin Chu Subject: Re: [PDF] form fields In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <19991213164700Z29758-24547+43458@mail.compusmart.ab.ca> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I would just use a javascript >is there a way to go to ........lets say page 8 from page 2 without >using links (which provide no good sound control other than on page >close or open) > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Dec-1999 21:13:54-GMT,2824;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00651 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 14:13:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA25703; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 15:02:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Dec 1999 15:00:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA25340; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 15:00:00 -0600 Message-ID: <38555EB6.18B55932@novejan.com> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:01:43 -0500 From: Tanya Renne Organization: Novejan Resources X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] abnormally HUGE file References: <000f01bf4583$82d51c20$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I suspected this but was having trouble with my PSprinter driver - once I got it to work it worked itself out. Thanks for the direction. Tanya Aandi Inston wrote: > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > > I am converting a rather simple Quark document to PDF - the > > original has > > one small logo and several text boxes and links but is otherwise a > > simple document. In its raw form it is 125k. When I convert > > it to pdf - > > using Acrobat PDFwriter I get a file that is 900k. > > Don't use PDFWriter with QuarkXPress. Ever. It just isn't suitable, > for many reasons including this one. > > Use Distiller. > > Aandi > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Dec-1999 21:15:42-GMT,1748;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00707 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 14:15:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA25753; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 15:03:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Dec 1999 15:02:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA25655; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 15:02:20 -0600 Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:03:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Jason A. Bryan" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Editing objects in pdfs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am able to edit graphics in pdfs which are images in Acrobat. However I am unsuccessful when trying to edit graphics which are objects. Please help? ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Dec-1999 21:15:53-GMT,2116;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00720 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 14:15:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA26241; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 15:08:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Dec 1999 15:06:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26074; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 15:06:53 -0600 From: randall.larson-maynard@ind.alstom.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: GA To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 12:37:00 -0800 Subject: [PDF] PDF Bookmarks Don't Work in Imported Section Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have a pdf file created from FrameMaker 5.5.3. I insert another file into the middle of the first pdf file. The inserted file works perfectly, but when I insert it into the first doc the bookmarks no longer work. All the bookmarks come over, but do not function. Anyone seen this? Have a solution? I don't believe Frame is the problem as both pdf files work perfectly until combined. FrameMaker 5.5.3 Acrobat 4.0 133 pentium 128 mg ram Win NT 4.0 w/service pack 5 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Dec-1999 21:26:39-GMT,2119;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01126 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 14:26:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA27155; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 15:17:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Dec 1999 15:15:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA27103; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 15:15:51 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Editing objects in pdfs Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 21:15:33 -0000 Message-ID: <000201bf45af$3197f9a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I am able to edit graphics in pdfs which are images in > Acrobat. However I > am unsuccessful when trying to edit graphics which are > objects. What do you mean by "objects", what edits are you trying to do, and in what way are you unsuccessful? Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13-Dec-1999 21:53:26-GMT,2993;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01813 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 14:53:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA29467; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 15:38:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 13 Dec 1999 15:37:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA29380; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 15:37:35 -0600 Message-ID: <8F7C09244A3AD31190F30000E885F972016F5A@ADMINSERVER> From: "E. Suskic" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] abnormally HUGE file Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 08:42:47 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Have you tried using Distiller, there are a lot more options for creating PDF. HTH Esad -----Original Message----- From: Tanya Renne [mailto:tanya@novejan.com] Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 8:43 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] abnormally HUGE file The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am converting a rather simple Quark document to PDF - the original has one small logo and several text boxes and links but is otherwise a simple document. In its raw form it is 125k. When I convert it to pdf - using Acrobat PDFwriter I get a file that is 900k. I have tried including fonts - 900k excluding fonts 400k (still huge given the original document). I've tried no color (its just two colors now) still 900k. I've optimized - no appreciable difference. There is nothing wrong with my set-up as I have converted other more complicated documents that save appropriately. Wisdom? ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Dec-1999 12:15:39-GMT,1976;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA19857 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 05:15:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA19312; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 06:06:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Dec 1999 05:58:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA18568; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 05:58:00 -0600 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 11:54:53 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Ron Drinkwater Subject: [PDF] Security problems MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 M Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have a book comprising a number of secure pdfs. I am want to update this file but I am getting a message telling me that this contravenes security. I am not getting a password screen. I replacement files have been built with no security options set. Can users user the Reader to access a secure file (without having to enter a password) or does security only apply to exchange. -- regards Ron ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Dec-1999 12:37:18-GMT,3068;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA20199 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 05:37:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA21500; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 06:31:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Dec 1999 06:29:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA21327; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 06:29:28 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Security problems Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 12:28:58 -0000 Message-ID: <000601bf462e$cc3db7e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I have a book comprising a number of secure pdfs. I am want to update > this file but I am getting a message telling me that this contravenes > security. You cannot update a secure file by adding pages to it. You have to take the security off. > > I am not getting a password screen. Does anything say you should? I wonder if the manual is misleading. Security is not a simple switch, but a complete encrypting of the file. So passwords apply only when you save or open; Acrobat can't just prompt asking you whether to temporarily ignore the security. To do that Acrobat would have to save without security and re-open the file, do the change, then save again with security and re-open. > > Can users user the Reader to access a secure file (without having to > enter a password) or does security only apply to exchange. Reader can access secure files. They are asked for a password if there is an open password. (You should always have a control password, or you have no security at all). Personally I recommend keeping two levels of files - three actually. The original application files; unprotected PDF files; and final (secure) PDF files. Reasons for this include being able to catalog or index only the unprotected copies. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Dec-1999 13:03:10-GMT,3449;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA20641 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 06:03:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA23049; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 06:52:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Dec 1999 06:50:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA22868; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 06:50:56 -0600 Message-Id: <199912141250.OAA28393@mailgw1.netvision.net.il> X-Sender: mtype@mail.netvision.net.il X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 14:01:54 +0000 To: randall.larson-maynard@ind.alstom.com From: Shlomo Perets Subject: [PDF] Re: PDF Bookmarks Don't Work in Imported Section Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <199912141158.FAA18589@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Randall, You wrote: > I have a pdf file created from FrameMaker 5.5.3. I insert another file into the > middle of the first pdf file. The inserted file works perfectly, but when I > insert it into the first doc the bookmarks no longer work. All the bookmarks > come over, but do not function. Anyone seen this? Have a solution? > I don't believe Frame is the problem as both pdf files work perfectly until > combined. This is a limitation of Acrobat's Insert Pages action. Depending on the specific release of FrameMaker you are using, you might also encounter other problems with interactive features (such as bad links). Some of these might be difficult to track, unless you employ a tool to systematically check all interactive features (I recommend Ari's Link Checker, see http://www.dionis.com for details). Also, in Acrobat 4.0, the file name is inserted as the top-level bookmark - not very useful in most cases... Other related problems: * file size - depending on type of fonts used, printer driver, and distilling parameters in effect, files you add in Acrobat will be larger than a book file printed to a single PS file and distilled as one piece * not common, but with PS files produced with some drivers, in conjunction with TrueType fonts and other parameters in effects, you might be missing random characters after Insert/Replace pages operations. My recommendation is to rearrange your FM files/book as need, output the PS file and distill, so that you don't need to use the Insert Pages function. Shlomo Perets MicroType * http://www.microtype.com FrameMaker-to-Acrobat: TimeSavers / Advanced Techniques Course / Solutions ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Dec-1999 16:43:25-GMT,2562;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25208 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 09:43:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA09065; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:29:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:26:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08788; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:26:50 -0600 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991214111800.02a76750@dionis.com> X-Sender: danielari@dionis.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 11:24:05 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel-Ari Feinberg Subject: [PDF] script for adding a bookmark to a set of files? Cc: pkretsch@acc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Ari's Bookmark Tool was created to copy the same bookmarks into a group of PDF files. Currently, it only works for bookmarks that point to other files, since the person for whom the tool was created was setting up a TOC the same way you are. Soon, it will also work for internally directed bookmarks, but you can download a free demo of the current version from: http://www.dionis.com/demo/abtdemob.html Ari's Bookmark Tool Demo Open up a file that has the bookmarks you want to copy, and then select Ari's Bookmark Tool -> Copy bookmarks in batch. Then, choose which folder you want, and all PDF files in that folder will get the bookmarks. Best Regards, Dan-Ari Feinberg Dionis >Does anybody know of an easy way to add the same bookmark (in this case, >a bookmark to open another file, the TOC) to a set of files? ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Dec-1999 17:05:03-GMT,2472;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25761 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:05:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11404; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:52:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:50:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA11172; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:50:50 -0600 Message-ID: <3856755D.EBA27664@comcom.com> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:50:37 -0600 From: Pat Leone-Thiel Organization: Commercial Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Reader 4.0 and Reader 3.01 co-existing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Can Readers 3x and 4x coexist happily on a PC? If R3 is already on the hard drive and a user installs R4 (into a different dir of course) will there be any problems running either? will file associations change and use 4x by default? Any other issues? Other new features worth the migration? I've got customers who may have to have both available to use custom parts ordering applications supplied by different manufacturers. TIA -- Patricia Leone-Thiel ----------------------------------------------------------- Special Applications Manager pleone@comcom.com Commercial Communications, Inc. ph(414)369-6000 1225 Walnut Ridge Drive fx(414)369-5647 Hartland, WI 53029 1-800-362-8832 ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Dec-1999 17:35:04-GMT,2695;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26724 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:35:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA14079; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 11:21:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Dec 1999 11:19:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13912; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 11:19:39 -0600 From: "Kim Braun" Organization: Univ.Oldenburg University Library To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 18:19:10 MET-1 Subject: [PDF] bookmarks that don't work X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: <3C6ACB16612@bis1.uni-oldenburg.de> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi everyone! I have various pdf-files on a cd-rom that can all be opened via a bookmark from a "toc-file.pdf". This file itself is opened via a hyperlink on a html-page. At least that was the plan. Unfortunately it doesn't work. The "toc-file.pdf" opens up as expected when called by the hyperlink, but the bookmarks in the pdf-file refer to an "unspecified object" that cannot b e opened. At least that's what the Reader and Exchange tell me. However, if I open the "toc-file.pdf" directly with the regular open file menu of the Reader or Exchange, the bookmarks work just fine. What can I do? Am I overseeing anything obvious? Am I stupid? Cheers Kim Braun ************************************************* ** ** Kim Braun ** Bibliotheks- und Informationssystem der ** Carl von Ossietzky-Universitaet Oldenburg ** Uhlhornsweg 49-55 ** 26129 Oldenburg ** 0441-798-4025 ** braun@bis.uni-oldenburg.de ** ************************************************* ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Dec-1999 22:17:49-GMT,2166;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04618 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:17:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA03483; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:54:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:50:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03159; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:50:52 -0600 X-Sender: castidata@mail.compusmart.ab.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 14:52:10 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kevin Chu Subject: Re: [PDF] Reader 4.0 and Reader 3.01 co-existing In-Reply-To: <3856755D.EBA27664@comcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <19991214215041Z30716-24548+47824@mail.compusmart.ab.ca> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have both readers on my machine (to test pdf files) and there are no problems at all. File associations will change.. they will change to the most recent reader application installed. >Can Readers 3x and 4x coexist happily on a PC? >If R3 is already on the hard drive and a user installs R4 (into a different dir >of course) >will there be any problems running either? >will file associations change and use 4x by default? ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Dec-1999 22:23:48-GMT,2325;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04773 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:23:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04611; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 16:09:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Dec 1999 16:07:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA04503; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 16:07:11 -0600 X-Sender: castidata@mail.compusmart.ab.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:08:28 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kevin Chu Subject: [PDF] Opening Multiple pdf's In-Reply-To: <3C6ACB16612@bis1.uni-oldenburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <19991214220702Z31014-24554+47567@mail.compusmart.ab.ca> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I was wondering if it is possible to create a link (either with the link tool or form tool) that will allow you to open another pdf to a specific page. There will be several of these types of buttons linking to various pages of this newly opened pdf. Also is it possible to open a pdf as mentioned above but keep the current pdf opened? I noticed that the open file cmd within the link/form tools usually closes your current pdf when it opens a new one. Any info or suggestions on how I can accomplish this would be great! Thanks Kevin Chu kchu@casti-publishing.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Dec-1999 23:29:42-GMT,2314;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06545 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 16:29:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA10900; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 17:20:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Dec 1999 17:17:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA10674; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 17:17:52 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Opening Multiple pdf's Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 22:34:30 -0000 Message-ID: <001a01bf4683$63bc2d00$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <19991214220702Z31014-24554+47567@mail.compusmart.ab.ca> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I was wondering if it is possible to create a link (either > with the link > tool or form tool) that will allow you to open another pdf to > a specific page. Sure, just make a GO TO VIEW link in EXACTLY the same way you would link to another page in the SAME file. To make this easier, it is helpful to open the two PDF files side by side. Don't be fooled by the OPEN FILE action. That was never designed to link to PDFs, though it usually works. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14-Dec-1999 23:39:51-GMT,3430;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06763 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 16:39:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA11295; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 17:25:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 14 Dec 1999 17:23:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA11073; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 17:23:40 -0600 From: "George Johnson" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Opening Multiple pdf's Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:25:45 -0800 Message-ID: <000001bf468a$8ba0ddf0$04e78e8c@geo_ws1.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <19991214220702Z31014-24554+47567@mail.compusmart.ab.ca> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I was wondering if it is possible to create a link (either with the link > tool or form tool) that will allow you to open another pdf to a specific > page. There will be several of these types of buttons linking to various > pages of this newly opened pdf. Also is it possible to open a pdf as > mentioned above but keep the current pdf opened? I noticed that the open > file cmd within the link/form tools usually closes your current > pdf when it opens a new one. If using links, set the action type to "Go to View" and select the target view in the other document, and press the "Set Link" button. You can use buttons, but the user interface is lacking, so you have to compensate. You can use the FDF Toolkit method FDFSetGoToRAction to create an FDF file that can be imported into the file with the button. When the FDF file is imported, the link properties will be set. What's nice about doing it this way is that you can specify whether the destination PDF will open in a new window, independent of the "Open Cross-Doc Links In Same Window" preference setting. Otherwise, you could use JavaScript (app.openInPlace) to control this preference setting, but only with a 4.0 or 4.05 viewer. If you want to use the FDFSetGoToRAction method, the destination must be a named destination. With Acrobat 4, there is now a user interface for setting named destinations. Otherwise, you could use a pdfmark. Confusing enough? Once you get it down, it is easier than I made it sound. If you would like a sample FDF that demonstrates this, let me know. Good luck! ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Dec-1999 16:53:42-GMT,1854;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27750 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:53:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08922; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 10:38:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Dec 1999 10:28:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07900; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 10:28:27 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 08:23:16 -0800 From: John D Fisk To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Importing Links from Excel '97 into PDF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have an 8 page Excel document with 50+ links in it that I am trying to convert to PDF. Is there any way to get Acrobat to import all the links from the Excel file, or do I have to sit and manually plug all the links back into the PDF myself? Thanx! ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Dec-1999 18:10:35-GMT,2574;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29897 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:10:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16036; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:56:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:53:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA15733; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:53:44 -0600 Message-ID: <3857D59A.E8EAE252@comcom.com> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:53:30 -0600 From: Pat Leone-Thiel Organization: Commercial Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Opening Multiple pdf's References: <19991214220702Z31014-24554+47567@mail.compusmart.ab.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Kevin Chu wrote: > Also is it possible to open a pdf as > mentioned above but keep the current pdf opened? I noticed that the open > file cmd within the link/form tools usually closes your current pdf when it > opens a new one. I believe the Reader or Acrobat Preferences -> General can help control this one. Check OFF "Open Cross-Doc Links in Same Window". This will allow at least 9 windows to open at once, then will close the "oldest" when it hits #10. hope this helps. -- Patricia Leone-Thiel ----------------------------------------------------------- Special Applications Manager pleone@comcom.com Commercial Communications, Inc. ph(414)369-6000 1225 Walnut Ridge Drive fx(414)369-5647 Hartland, WI 53029 1-800-362-8832 ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Dec-1999 19:41:02-GMT,5166;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02080 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 12:41:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA23978; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 13:19:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Dec 1999 13:16:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA23711; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 13:16:55 -0600 From: "George Johnson" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Opening Multiple pdf's Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 10:57:46 -0800 Message-ID: <000101bf472e$46771420$04e78e8c@geo_ws1.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <000001bf468a$8ba0ddf0$04e78e8c@geo_ws1.u.washington.edu> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ To folks who have requested more information, > A sample FDF would be great. This sounds like a very complex solution. It is more complex than it should be, that's for sure. I will outline the steps you need to take to use Go to View links to other PDF files using buttons: 1. Prepare your target document by setting named destinations on the pages you will be targeting. To do this with Acrobat 4, open the PDF, go to the "Window > Show Destinations" and scan the document. To scan, press the small broken paper icon at the bottom-right of the window. You can now add named destinations. Click the small right-pointing arrow on the upper right, click "New Destination", and specify a name. Move to a new page and repeat to add any other named destinations that are required. There are other ways of adding named destinations, which others folks are more qualified to discuss. Bryan Guignard kindly provided a pdfmark file that is posted at http://www.codecuts.com/mainpage.asp?webpageid=325 that can be used to create named destinations when you Distill. 2. To prepare your source document, add as many buttons as you need using the form tool and make a note of the name you give to each. 3. Modify the following FDF file to set the action type of a button to Go to View: %FDF-1.2 %âăĎÓ 1 0 obj << /FDF << /Fields 2 0 R >> >> endobj 2 0 obj [ << /T (button1)/A << /S /GoToR /D (Your_dest)/F (dir1/target.pdf)/NewWindow true >> >> ] endobj trailer << /Root 1 0 R >> %%EOF You can save this to a file and use a text editor to modify it. Here is a little explanation of the contents: The "/T (button1)" refers to the button name. You would replace "button1" with the name of your button. The "/D (Your_dest)" is where you specify the named destination you want to go to. Replace "Your_dest" the the name of the named destination you want to go to in the target PDF. The "/F (dir1/target.pdf)" is where you specify the target file. If the target file is in the same directory as the source, then you would simply use "/F (target.pdf)". If it in a directory underneath the source, then you would use "/F (dir1/target.pdf)". These are relative file specifications. For an absolute file specification, do something like "/F (/D/dir1/dir2/target.pdf)". This corresponds to a DOS path of "D:\dir1\dir2\target.pdf". Finally, the "/NewWindow true" makes it so that the target PDF is opened in it's own window, rather than closing the source PDF first. If you do not want this to happen, simply leave it out. If it is included, it will override the user's preference setting (Open Cross-Doc Links in Same Window) that otherwise controls this behavior. 4. Now that you have the FDF file, you just need to import it into the source PDF by selecting "File > Import > Form Data..." and select your newly edited FDF. All buttons that have the name specified in the FDF file will now have an Action Type of Go to View, which will link to the file and named destination that was specified. 5. Save source PDF and repeat for any other buttons. By the way, if you just want to have a button that links to a target in the SAME PDF, create the button on the destination page first, and then cut and paste it to wherever you want it. I hope this was a little better explanation. Good luck! George ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Dec-1999 21:03:05-GMT,3025;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04203 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:03:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA31731; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:47:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:44:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA31429; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:44:47 -0600 Message-ID: <3857FE85.8D89F401@home.com> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 15:48:05 -0500 From: Jill Sangster Organization: @Home Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Multiple PDFs X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------22BF9435EEE97EB6D43341CC" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ --------------22BF9435EEE97EB6D43341CC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have created a company directory with a Welcome Page linking information to several other PDFS. I would like to distribute this pdf directory on the company's network. I would appreciate any technical information/suggestions. I am not an IT person, however, IT appear to be having problems. They are looking at MicroSoft Outlook for distribution. Is this possible? Help is appreciated. TIA Jill Sangster jdsangster@home.com --------------22BF9435EEE97EB6D43341CC Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have created a company directory with a Welcome Page linking information to several other PDFS. I would like to distribute this pdf directory on the company's network. I would appreciate any technical information/suggestions. I am not an IT person, however, IT appear to be having problems. They are looking at MicroSoft Outlook for distribution. Is this possible?

Help is appreciated.

TIA  Jill Sangster
jdsangster@home.com
 
  --------------22BF9435EEE97EB6D43341CC-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15-Dec-1999 21:26:54-GMT,2435;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04812 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 14:26:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA01780; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 15:16:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Dec 1999 15:15:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA01595; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 15:15:02 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Multiple PDFs Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:14:34 -0000 Message-ID: <005c01bf4741$62ff2d40$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3857FE85.8D89F401@home.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ You can distribute PDFs separately or together using Outlook, but you cannot link between them, nor link to PDF files in an Outlook repository. The files either need to be on shared disks, or preferably an intranet. Aandi -----Original Message----- I have created a company directory with a Welcome Page linking information to several other PDFS. I would like to distribute this pdf directory on the company's network. I would appreciate any technical information/suggestions. I am not an IT person, however, IT appear to be having problems. They are looking at MicroSoft Outlook for distribution. Is this possible? ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Dec-1999 0:46:41-GMT,4627;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA09622 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 17:46:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA16605; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 18:36:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Dec 1999 18:32:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA16374; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 18:32:39 -0600 Message-Id: <199912160032.TAA15357@smtp6.mindspring.com> Subject: [PDF] Universal PPD and "best of practices" Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 16:36:05 -0800 x-sender: mikejahn@pop.mindspring.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: mikejahn To: , , "ctpp" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Howdy, y'all. On Tuesday Dec 15th i attended a DDAP (DIrect Digital Advertising Production) committee meeting in NYC at TIME Inc building - quite a few people were there, all magazine production people who are involved in working with ad adgency people whom submit digital ads to them - people representing Time, Newsweek, US World Report, Scientific American, etc... - the majority of them have created "guides" (of various levels of depth) on how to set up Macintosh systems, Quark, Drivers - for creating "reliable PostScript" - in fact, Hurst publications, Time, Forbes and several others actually went to the trouble of hacking a PPD file and customising it and then give it to the design firm or ad agency asking them to use it... - the idea here was that several of them have suggested using a single custom PPD - one that woked for "digital ads" (since they are unsure what system the digital ad was going to be output on - what they were discussing was the idea of creating a "universal PPD" that would work for all of them - one they could distribute...they all send PDF files to publishers who either convert the PostScript to PDF to TIFF/IT which normally (9 out of 10 times) goes to a magazine printer that owns a Creo (most large magazine printers already own Creos) but (of course) they didn't want this to be limited so it only works with a Creo workflow... they all agree that the Ad's will be output at 2400 ppi and imaged at 133 line screen 100% of the time (US Magazines are typically printed using the SWOP specification) and is CMYK only - (no spots) and that for now, they are focused on Quark on a Mac set up only... so, what i am after is two fold - (on the Mac only for now) 1. what are you doing to facilitae this sort of thing in your shop - please, don't respond if you are accepting native quark pages, and don't diatribe why you can't trust customer files yada yada - the people whom are submitting these PostScript files to these publishers are largely service providers whom know how to make professional Prepress ready PostScript, PDF or TIFF/IT-p1 files - i jst want to learn how prevelant this "here, use MY PPD" activity actually is for digital advertisement files... 2. i would love you all to share you "best of practices" suggestions (even if this is a "this is how WE do it when we use OUR workflow (Rampage, Creo, Agfa, Scitex - whatever) SPECIFICALLY for single page advertisement. you know, somethin like Printing from Quark 3.3.2 page set-up and Print Dialogs Laserwriter driver (8.5.1) you get the idea... I PROMISE to combine his into some form of survey that all of you can visit on my web site. remember, this is not for Agfa Apogee specifically! any advice/ideas/sharing would be great! Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa Gevaert NV Septestraat 27 B-2640 Mortsel Belgium www.agfahome.com www.jahn.org 011 32 3 444 3921 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Dec-1999 1:41:15-GMT,4337;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA10780 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 18:41:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA20167; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 19:29:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 15 Dec 1999 19:27:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA20039; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 19:27:47 -0600 Message-Id: <199912160127.TAA20034@everglades.binc.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 17:33:50 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Universal PPD and "best of practices" From: "Todd Donahue" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >From: mikejahn >To: , , "ctpp" >Subject: [PDF] Universal PPD and "best of practices" >Date: Wed, Dec 15, 1999, 4:36 PM > >... > - the majority of them have created "guides" (of various levels of depth) > on how to set up Macintosh systems, Quark, Drivers - for creating > "reliable PostScript" - in fact, Hurst publications, Time, Forbes and Why create reliable PS when you can create more reliable PDF files? > - the idea here was that several of them have suggested using a single > custom PPD - one that woked for "digital ads" (since they are unsure what > system the digital ad was going to be output on Again a PDF file constructed for hi res output would be better. > - what they were discussing was the idea of creating a "universal PPD" > that would work for all of them - one they could distribute...they all > send PDF files to publishers who either convert the PostScript to PDF to > TIFF/IT which normally (9 out of 10 times) goes to a magazine printer > that owns a Creo (most large magazine printers already own Creos) but (of > course) they didn't want this to be limited so it only works with a Creo > workflow... A solution that works with PDF files already exists and is currently used to submit digital ads to newspapers as well as magazines. You can create a "Universal Digital PDF Printer" using EZ-PDF. This printer would create PDF files that are to be used for digital ad exchange. The "printer" that is created is cross platform and can be used with any application that can print. > they all agree that the Ad's will be output at 2400 ppi and imaged at 133 > line screen 100% of the time (US Magazines are typically printed using > the SWOP specification) and is CMYK only - (no spots) and that for now, > they are focused on Quark on a Mac set up only... Again, EZ-PDF offers a cross-platform solution today using PDF as a transport file format. >.... > 2. i would love you all to share you "best of practices" suggestions > (even if this is a "this is how WE do it when we use OUR workflow > (Rampage, Creo, Agfa, Scitex - whatever) SPECIFICALLY for single page > advertisement. > Printing from Quark 3.3.2 > page set-up and Print Dialogs > Laserwriter driver (8.5.1) I don't want to turn this into a running ad for EZ-PDF, but as long as you can print, you can use EZ-PDF. Even my mom could create a PDF file that can be used as a digital ad. -- Todd Donahue Acquired Knowledge Inc. todd@acquiredknowledge.com Creators of EZ-PDF "The easiest way to create PDF files for any use" http://www.acquiredknowledge.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Dec-1999 14:19:48-GMT,3284;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA23188 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 07:19:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01570; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 08:04:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Dec 1999 08:01:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA01325; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 08:01:19 -0600 Message-ID: <3858F179.9257BB70@home.com> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 09:04:42 -0500 From: Jill Sangster Organization: @Home Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Multiple PDFs References: <005c01bf4741$62ff2d40$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thanks for the info Aandi. It's good to know Outlook is out of the question for multiple PDF files with links. Do you have any ideas as to why they would have problems uploading these files to their network. They do not have an intranet. To combine all pdfs in one file does not make sense... too many bookmarks and not as clean. If I can avoid this by offering IT some suggestions....... TIA Aandi Inston wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > You can distribute PDFs separately or together using Outlook, but you cannot > link > between them, nor link to PDF files in an Outlook repository. > > The files either need to be on shared disks, or preferably an intranet. > > Aandi > > -----Original Message----- > I have created a company directory with a Welcome Page linking information > to several other PDFS. I would like to distribute this pdf directory on the > company's network. I would appreciate any technical information/suggestions. > I am not an IT person, however, IT appear to be having problems. They are > looking at MicroSoft Outlook for distribution. Is this possible? > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Dec-1999 15:11:41-GMT,6300;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA24149 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 08:11:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06034; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 09:02:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Dec 1999 09:01:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05898; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 09:01:15 -0600 From: "Ron Nelson" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Universal PPD and "best of practices" Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 09:02:19 -0600 Message-ID: <000001bf47d6$8d481c70$5ae1d4d0@wavetech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <199912160032.TAA15357@smtp6.mindspring.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello everyone, Perhaps this would be better suited for the Basics list, I'm still fairly new to Acrobat, but this posting gives me an excellent jumping off point, so... What is the problem with using the Distiller PPD as the universal ppd? Isn't that the whole intent? If I'm not mistaken the Distiller PPD can handle quite well all of the specs you mentioned (2400 ppi, 133 lpi, etc.) With the job options in Acrobat 4.0 it seems that it is easy enough to configure distiller to meet all of the requirements without all of the mucking around that you are talking about. Am I missing something? > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of mikejahn > Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 6:36 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; ctp-q@ctpp.com; ctpp > Subject: [PDF] Universal PPD and "best of practices" > > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Howdy, y'all. > > On Tuesday Dec 15th i attended a DDAP (DIrect Digital Advertising > Production) committee meeting in NYC at TIME Inc building > > - quite a few people were there, all magazine production > people who are > involved in working with ad adgency people whom submit digital ads to > them > > - people representing Time, Newsweek, US World Report, Scientific > American, etc... > > - the majority of them have created "guides" (of various > levels of depth) > on how to set up Macintosh systems, Quark, Drivers - for creating > "reliable PostScript" - in fact, Hurst publications, Time, Forbes and > several others actually went to the trouble of hacking a PPD file and > customising it and then give it to the design firm or ad > agency asking > them to use it... > > - the idea here was that several of them have suggested > using a single > custom PPD - one that woked for "digital ads" (since they are > unsure what > system the digital ad was going to be output on > > - what they were discussing was the idea of creating a > "universal PPD" > that would work for all of them - one they could > distribute...they all > send PDF files to publishers who either convert the > PostScript to PDF to > TIFF/IT which normally (9 out of 10 times) goes to a magazine printer > that owns a Creo (most large magazine printers already own > Creos) but (of > course) they didn't want this to be limited so it only works > with a Creo > workflow... > > they all agree that the Ad's will be output at 2400 ppi and > imaged at 133 > line screen 100% of the time (US Magazines are typically > printed using > the SWOP specification) and is CMYK only - (no spots) and > that for now, > they are focused on Quark on a Mac set up only... > > so, what i am after is two fold - (on the Mac only for now) > > 1. what are you doing to facilitae this sort of thing in your shop - > please, don't respond if you are accepting native quark > pages, and don't > diatribe why you can't trust customer files yada yada - the > people whom > are submitting these PostScript files to these publishers are largely > service providers whom know how to make professional Prepress ready > PostScript, PDF or TIFF/IT-p1 files - i jst want to learn how > prevelant > this "here, use MY PPD" activity actually is for digital > advertisement > files... > > 2. i would love you all to share you "best of practices" suggestions > (even if this is a "this is how WE do it when we use OUR workflow > (Rampage, Creo, Agfa, Scitex - whatever) SPECIFICALLY for single page > advertisement. > > you know, somethin like > > Printing from Quark 3.3.2 > page set-up and Print Dialogs > Laserwriter driver (8.5.1) > > you get the idea... > > I PROMISE to combine his into some form of survey that all of you can > visit on my web site. > > remember, this is not for Agfa Apogee specifically! > > any advice/ideas/sharing would be great! > > > > > > Michael Jahn > PDF Evangelist > Agfa Gevaert NV > Septestraat 27 > B-2640 > Mortsel > Belgium > www.agfahome.com > www.jahn.org > > 011 32 3 444 3921 > > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips > on improving the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Dec-1999 17:21:28-GMT,2628;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27304 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 10:21:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17188; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 11:08:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Dec 1999 11:00:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA16345; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 11:00:25 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991216100326.007dfb70@mail.inficad.com> X-Sender: genelea@mail.inficad.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 10:03:26 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Edwin E Wagner Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have been using Acrobat for some time, Doing a book that has many many href links or so called book marks in it, I have also raised the amount of Book marks in the Macro (65000) that it uses! now my question is this. As I have worked on this project and went farther with it, After about 600-700 bookmark-links it has slowed way down!!!! in fact yesterday it took it some 6 or 7 hours to work through the file and quit at about 4000 plus Links.??? This book when finished would probably have 15,000 book marks, to make the index work. Any one have a fix for this?? And will it help this problem to upgrade to version 4?? useing 450 mhz Computer Microsoft Word 2000 win98 Acrobat 3.01? Pdfmaker 3.0? Anyone have any answers or comments Gene Edwin E. (Gene) Wagner 6428 E. Presidio ST Mesa AZ. 85215 http://www.inficad.com/~genelea/index.html Genealogy Information on these famlies! Wagner-Waggoner, Humphrey, Coe, Slack, Grubb and other Famlies. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Dec-1999 17:26:10-GMT,3773;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27411 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 10:26:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17792; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 11:13:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Dec 1999 11:12:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA17691; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 11:12:30 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 12:12:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Universal PPD and "best of practices" From: "Jason Belec" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991216171013.QRLI15480.mail.rdc3.on.home.com@[24.112.218.247]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Trust me or not, but the Distiller PPD will create the most Universal and compact PDFs. I've been doing it very well, thank you, since version 3.02, and all mine output fast, efficiently, and beautifully. Every single printer, output house, magazine, newspaper, government department (including Defense), all outpout these files without errors from a multitude of RIPs, postscript, and PCL printers. Don't bother trashing, stop reading advertising, and run some tests. PDFZone has an article by me, for 3.02, it also applies to version 4. I don't use the default settings, they are not as efficient as they can be, nor have many of you creating content explored the most successful means to create efficient files. I have set all my clients up the same, and shown my students, and I've seen them all create some really great stuff, and output successfully. -- Jason Belec :)~ Digital Workflows Specialist, especially PDF pdfworkflows@home.com "It's always easy, we just think too hard..." (613) 824-2243 EST PDF Course Instructor Media Madness Productions Algonquin College Director of Digital Productions New Media Corporate Training www.mediamadness.com Articles of Interest (PDF): http://www.digitalchicago.com/Mag/JA99/Acrobat4/acrobody.html http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html Web Site of Interest (PDF): http://nuclear.nrcan.gc.ca/english.pdf ---------- > Hello everyone, > > Perhaps this would be better suited for the Basics list, I'm still fairly > new to Acrobat, but this posting gives me an excellent jumping off point, > so... > > What is the problem with using the Distiller PPD as the universal ppd? > Isn't that the whole intent? If I'm not mistaken the Distiller PPD can > handle quite well all of the specs you mentioned (2400 ppi, 133 lpi, etc.) > With the job options in Acrobat 4.0 it seems that it is easy enough to > configure distiller to meet all of the requirements without all of the > mucking around that you are talking about. Am I missing something? > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Dec-1999 18:42:37-GMT,2229;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29566 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 11:42:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA24182; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 12:26:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Dec 1999 12:24:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA23879; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 12:24:05 -0600 From: "Ron Nelson" To: Subject: [PDF] Launching Flash from PDF Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 12:25:22 -0600 Message-ID: <000b01bf47f2$ea9934b0$5ae1d4d0@wavetech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <199912160127.TAA20034@everglades.binc.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I noticed a posting in the archives from over a year ago asking whether it is possible to launch shocked Flash file within a pdf frame. I didn't see any responses, does this mean that this is not possible? Or were the responses sent off list? I know you should be able to launch Flash from within a PDF, but can you keep the PDF view open at the same time? Ron Nelson Wave Technologies ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Dec-1999 18:54:11-GMT,2415;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29851 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 11:54:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26305; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 12:46:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Dec 1999 12:45:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26197; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 12:45:18 -0600 Message-Id: <199912161842.NAA01574@mx03.together.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:43:29 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Universal PPD and "best of practices" From: "Will Mitchell" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ can I come work in this fantasy world of no errors!!!! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Will Mitchell Reply to: mailto:Will@OffsetHouse.com The Offset House- http://www.OffsetHouse.com 89 Sand Hill Rd | PO Box 8929 | Essex VT 05451 ph 802-878-4440 | fx 802-879-4865 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ---------- >From: "Jason Belec" >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: Re: [PDF] Universal PPD and "best of practices" >Date: Thu, Dec 16, 1999, 12:12 PM > > Every single > printer, output house, magazine, newspaper, government department (including > Defense), all outpout these files without errors from a multitude of RIPs, > postscript, and PCL printers. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Dec-1999 19:03:21-GMT,2257;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00084 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 12:03:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27123; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 12:53:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Dec 1999 12:52:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27035; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 12:52:34 -0600 Message-ID: <385933CB.B103F43F@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 14:47:39 -0400 From: Bryan Guignard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Launching Flash from PDF References: <000b01bf47f2$ea9934b0$5ae1d4d0@wavetech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I noticed a posting in the archives from over a year ago asking whether it > is possible to launch shocked Flash file within a pdf frame. I didn't see > any responses, does this mean that this is not possible? Or were the > responses sent off list? I know you should be able to launch Flash from > within a PDF, but can you keep the PDF view open at the same time? Acrobat cannot do frames. However it might be possible for someone to develop a new PDF viewer that does. Presently you must run Flash and Acrobat as separate apps. Bryan Guignard ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Dec-1999 20:42:16-GMT,2163;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02583 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:42:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA02078; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 14:31:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Dec 1999 14:30:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01983; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 14:30:40 -0600 Message-Id: <199912162030.OAA01970@everglades.binc.net> Subject: [PDF] Launching Flash from PDF Date: Fri, 17 Dec 99 09:32:32 +1300 x-sender: craigl@mail.siren.co.nz x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Craig Lauridsen To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Ron Nelson wrote >I noticed a posting in the archives from over a year ago asking whether it >is possible to launch shocked Flash file within a pdf frame. If you want to run a Flash movie directly in the PDF page (not as a separate application window) open the Flash file into Quicktime 4 and then place on the PDF page in Acrobat as a movie (retaining vector outlines). This may require Quicktime Pro $30 to do the actual file conversion from flash into Quicktime format. Craig Lauridsen Acumen Technical Design and Training ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Dec-1999 20:42:40-GMT,2231;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02593 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:42:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA02079; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 14:31:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Dec 1999 14:28:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01760; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 14:28:07 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Multiple PDFs Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 20:24:19 -0000 Message-ID: <000001bf4804$08100580$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <3858F179.9257BB70@home.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Do you have any ideas as to why they would have problems > uploading these files to > their network. They do not have an intranet. I can't think why they shouldn't put the files on shared disks, provided they are set up with adequate protection from unauthorized access. Less convenient than both Outlook and an Intranet, unless there happens to be a suitable mapped drive already available to everyone. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Dec-1999 21:26:49-GMT,2542;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA03645 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 14:26:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA06061; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:18:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:17:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA05901; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:16:59 -0600 Message-Id: <199912162116.NAA26932@wren.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:07:29 -0800 Subject: [PDF] QuarkXpress 4.1/PDF Filter 1.4 From: "C. Scott Miller" To: "Acrobat/blueworld" , PDF Zone Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Just installed the new QuarkXpress 4.1 update onto my Mac G3 (MacOS 8.6). Nice to see that they are paying more attention to PDF import and export issues with their updated PDF Filter 1.4. However, as easy as the filter set-up is, I could not get the UTILITIES/EXPORT_AS_PDF... function to work with my Acrobat 4.0 setup (Distiller 4.0). Is this a case of Quark distributing a filter that is non-compliant with the latest Distiller release? Has anyone else had success with this function? Meanwhile the import feature of the PDF Filter seems to be limited to PDF 1.2 version. Anyone else experienced these limitations? -- Thanks, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.pdfresearch.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Dec-1999 21:37:56-GMT,1948;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA03912 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 14:37:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07168; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:29:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:28:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07022; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:28:23 -0600 From: OFCP@aol.com Message-ID: <0.fb404d7a.258ab369@aol.com> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 16:28:09 EST Subject: [PDF] FONT ISSUE To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Please help!!! I have a Microsoft Word document with various fonts (Century Old STyle, Times New Roman that are bold & italicized). Since it is all text I use PDF Writer to create the PDF file. When doing so the PDF file contains "extra" bold and italicize features. Any suggestions??? I working in windows environment. thanks in advance Veronica Ohio Full Court Press ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Dec-1999 22:06:47-GMT,2637;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04614 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:06:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA09345; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:54:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:53:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA09178; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:53:19 -0600 Message-Id: <199912162145.PAA02310@fw1jdtv.jdpub.com> Date: 16 Dec 99 15:57:23 -0600 From: Jeff Rochon Subject: RE: [PDF] QuarkXpress 4.1/PDF Filter 1.4 To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA09174 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Reply to: RE: [PDF] QuarkXpress 4.1/PDF Filter 1.4 C. Scott Miller wrote: > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >Just installed the new QuarkXpress 4.1 update onto my Mac G3 (MacOS 8.6). >Nice to see that they are paying more attention to PDF import and export >issues with their updated PDF Filter 1.4. > >However, as easy as the filter set-up is, I could not get the >UTILITIES/EXPORT_AS_PDF... function to work with my Acrobat 4.0 setup >(Distiller 4.0). Is this a case of Quark distributing a filter that is >non-compliant with the latest Distiller release? > >Has anyone else had success with this function? > >Meanwhile the import feature of the PDF Filter seems to be limited to PDF >1.2 version. Anyone else experienced these limitations? > >-- >Thanks, >C. Scott Miller ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Dec-1999 22:06:49-GMT,2543;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04618 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:06:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08639; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:46:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:44:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA08462; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:44:53 -0600 Message-id: Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:44:39 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] QuarkXpress 4.1/PDF Filter 1.4 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: acrobat@blueworld.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: werner@rapidgraphics.com (Steve Werner) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ pdf@lists.pdfzone.com writes: >Just installed the new QuarkXpress 4.1 update onto my Mac G3 (MacOS 8.6). >Nice to see that they are paying more attention to PDF import and export >issues with their updated PDF Filter 1.4. > >However, as easy as the filter set-up is, I could not get the >UTILITIES/EXPORT_AS_PDF... function to work with my Acrobat 4.0 setup >(Distiller 4.0). Is this a case of Quark distributing a filter that is >non-compliant with the latest Distiller release? > >Has anyone else had success with this function? > >Meanwhile the import feature of the PDF Filter seems to be limited to PDF >1.2 version. Anyone else experienced these limitations? I've had no problem having PDF Filter 1.4 exporting to Distiller 4.0. I've created many files with this setup. There is a limitation on importing Acrobat 4 files because Quark has not received a license for the PDF library that would allow such import...It's apparently in process somewhere. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Dec-1999 22:20:15-GMT,3107;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04912 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:20:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA09690; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:58:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:57:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA09593; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:57:06 -0600 Message-Id: <199912162149.PAA02545@fw1jdtv.jdpub.com> Date: 16 Dec 99 16:01:20 -0600 From: Jeff Rochon Subject: RE: [PDF] QuarkXpress 4.1/PDF Filter 1.4 To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA09580 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Reply to: RE: [PDF] QuarkXpress 4.1/PDF Filter 1.4 here is the information sent with the quark 4.1 upgrade disk. PDF Import the PDF filter allows you to import pages from PDF files created with acrobat distiller 3.0 into quarkxpress picture boxes. an updated filter with support for PDF files created by distiller 4.0 is COMING SOON, and will be free for all quarkxpress 4.1 users. PDF Export the PDF filtter lets you output postscript filrs optimized for use with acrobate 3.0 and 4.0. jeff ----------------- C. Scott Miller wrote: >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >Just installed the new QuarkXpress 4.1 update onto my Mac G3 (MacOS 8.6). >Nice to see that they are paying more attention to PDF import and export >issues with their updated PDF Filter 1.4. > >However, as easy as the filter set-up is, I could not get the >UTILITIES/EXPORT_AS_PDF... function to work with my Acrobat 4.0 setup >(Distiller 4.0). Is this a case of Quark distributing a filter that is >non-compliant with the latest Distiller release? > >Has anyone else had success with this function? > >Meanwhile the import feature of the PDF Filter seems to be limited to PDF >1.2 version. Anyone else experienced these limitations? > >-- >Thanks, >C. Scott Miller ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Dec-1999 3:29:09-GMT,2281;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA10971 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 20:29:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA30272; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 21:15:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Dec 1999 21:13:02 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA30043; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 21:13:01 -0600 Message-ID: <3859AA32.FF923D46@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 23:12:50 -0400 From: Robert Richard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pdfzone Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 & Find/Search. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ PDFZone list, Basically, I have a job to scan 1000 documents that is used for an historical research and convert them to PDF for faster retrieving when needed. The majority of said documents will not be OCR because of workload necessitated and their origin: photocopies of books, magazines, newspapers, old manuscripts, etc. So, we will not be able to take advantage of Adobe Acrobat Search (Boolean) & Find options. What other ways are we able to create our own index by typing keywords and then attaching them to the different documents? Thanks in advance for reply. Robert Richard Robertville, New Brunswick Canada. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Dec-1999 3:30:54-GMT,2124;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA10984 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 20:30:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA30686; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 21:20:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 16 Dec 1999 21:19:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA30526; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 21:19:41 -0600 Message-ID: <3859ABC3.6B34986E@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 23:19:31 -0400 From: Robert Richard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pdfzone Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 & Find/Search. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ PDFZonelist, To clarify the following that I wrote in the first message: «...So, we will not be able to take advantage of Adobe Acrobat Search (Boolean) & Find options. What other ways are we able to create our own index by typing keywords and then attaching them to the different documents?...» The index that we would be including with each PDF documents, how can we use them with Find Option in Adobe Acrobat 4.0? Sorry for this 2nd email. Robert Richard. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Dec-1999 9:29:17-GMT,2104;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA17289 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 02:29:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA18316; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 03:17:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Dec 1999 03:14:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA18126; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 03:14:53 -0600 Message-ID: <385A016D.C4B56D64@pir.se> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:25:03 +0100 From: omar ceron X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Problems base 13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Please help!!! I want to use more than the 13 base fonts that are including in Reader, can i do that. it this possible? -- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Omar Cerón Expressive AB Igeldammsgatan 22 Box 30 137 S-104 25 Stockholm Sweden Phone +46 8 654 14 70 Celular +46 070 3333 181 Fax +46 070 3883 181 E-mail omar.ceron@pir.se ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Dec-1999 11:52:37-GMT,1955;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA18734 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 04:06:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA23926; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 04:48:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Dec 1999 04:46:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA23785; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 04:46:31 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Problems base 13 Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:46:20 -0000 Message-ID: <000801bf487b$f51c19a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <385A016D.C4B56D64@pir.se> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I want to use more than the 13 base fonts that are including > in Reader, > can i do that. it this possible? Use them for what?? Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Dec-1999 12:21:19-GMT,2897;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA19844 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 05:21:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA28846; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:10:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:08:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA28640; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:08:52 -0600 Message-ID: <385A2A30.636CC07C@pir.se> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:19:02 +0100 From: omar ceron X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Problems base 13 References: <000801bf487b$f51c19a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I want to use another font because my client dont want use the default fonts in Reader (time,helvetica.etc.) he want to use his own fonts, (baskerville) He want to follow the designprofil. Aandi Inston wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > > I want to use more than the 13 base fonts that are including > > in Reader, > > can i do that. it this possible? > > Use them for what?? > > Aandi > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Omar Cerón Expressive AB Igeldammsgatan 22 Box 30 137 S-104 25 Stockholm Sweden Phone +46 8 654 14 70 Celular +46 070 3333 181 Fax +46 070 3883 181 E-mail omar.ceron@pir.se ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Dec-1999 12:35:07-GMT,2225;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA20050 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 05:35:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA30022; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:28:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:27:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA29961; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:27:44 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Problems base 13 Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 12:27:33 -0000 Message-ID: <000901bf488a$183e8360$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <385A2A30.636CC07C@pir.se> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I want to use another font because my client dont want use > the default fonts in > Reader (time,helvetica.etc.) he want to use his own fonts, > (baskerville) He want > to follow the designprofil. Yes, but use the fonts for WHAT? I'll have to guess. In creating a PDF you can use almost any font. If, on the other hand, you are designing forms, the fill-in fields can only use the base 13 fonts. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Dec-1999 12:35:07-GMT,3193;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA20049 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 05:35:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA29952; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:27:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:26:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA29834; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:26:28 -0600 Message-ID: From: Jose Mera To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" , "'robertr@nbnet.nb.ca'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 & Find/Search. Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 07:28:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id GAA29830 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ When you say Index, do you mean you have a listing of key words, documents, what? How about linking the Index to the referenced key word/file? Jose Mera VP DocMaestro Products Div. ISPA, Inc. 1700 McMullen Booth Rd., Suite C-3 Clearwater, Fl 33759 Phone: 727-669-8911 Fax: 727-669-6410 -----Original Message----- From: Robert Richard [mailto:robertr@nbnet.nb.ca] Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 10:20 PM To: Pdfzone Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 & Find/Search. The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ PDFZonelist, To clarify the following that I wrote in the first message: «...So, we will not be able to take advantage of Adobe Acrobat Search (Boolean) & Find options. What other ways are we able to create our own index by typing keywords and then attaching them to the different documents?...» The index that we would be including with each PDF documents, how can we use them with Find Option in Adobe Acrobat 4.0? Sorry for this 2nd email. Robert Richard. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Dec-1999 13:49:34-GMT,3188;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA21204 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:49:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02311; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 07:42:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Dec 1999 07:40:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02105; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 07:40:35 -0600 Message-ID: <385A3FA2.D04F168E@pir.se> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 14:50:35 +0100 From: omar ceron X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Problems base 13 References: <000901bf488a$183e8360$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Okej! that's the problem, my question was that can I use another fonts , maybe with a plug-ins ? If, on the other hand, you are designing forms, the fill-in fields can only use the base 13 fonts. Aandi Inston wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > > I want to use another font because my client dont want use > > the default fonts in > > Reader (time,helvetica.etc.) he want to use his own fonts, > > (baskerville) He want > > to follow the designprofil. > > Yes, but use the fonts for WHAT? > I'll have to guess. > > In creating a PDF you can use almost any font. > > If, on the other hand, you are designing forms, the fill-in > fields can only use the base 13 fonts. > > Aandi > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Omar Cerón Expressive AB Igeldammsgatan 22 Box 30 137 S-104 25 Stockholm Sweden Phone +46 8 654 14 70 Celular +46 070 3333 181 Fax +46 070 3883 181 E-mail omar.ceron@pir.se ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Dec-1999 14:05:38-GMT,2173;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA21467 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 07:05:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA03533; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 07:59:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Dec 1999 07:58:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA03395; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 07:58:15 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Problems base 13 Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:58:03 -0000 Message-ID: <000d01bf4896$bd085f40$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <385A3FA2.D04F168E@pir.se> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Okej! that's the problem, my question was that can I use > another fonts , maybe > with a plug-ins ? > > If, on the other hand, you are designing forms, the fill-in > fields can only use the base 13 fonts. No, forms can only use the base 13 fonts (except through "icons"). Developers have not been able to overcome this limitation in plug-ins. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Dec-1999 15:47:15-GMT,2810;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA23500 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 08:47:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA12019; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 09:39:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Dec 1999 09:36:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA11699; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 09:36:16 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000d01bf4896$bd085f40$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: <000d01bf4896$bd085f40$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:34:25 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: RE: [PDF] Problems base 13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 1:58 PM +0000 12/17/99, Aandi Inston wrote: > > Okej! that's the problem, my question was that can I use > > another fonts , maybe > > with a plug-ins ? > > >No, forms can only use the base 13 fonts (except through "icons"). >Developers have not been able to overcome this limitation in plug-ins. > If the important part is to have the resultant FILLED-IN form have "fields" in fonts other than base-13, then check out FDFMerge from Digital Applications (). The new 3.0 version supports this (by "flattening" your field data into standard page content) for any Type 1 font for which you have the metrics files. If the editing itself has to be in a font other than base-13, then Aandi is right on the money! Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Sr. Software Engineer (215) 922-3509 (voice) Digital Applications (215) 440-0504 (fax) PGP Fingerprint: 8CC9 8878 921E C627 0BC1 15BB FC19 64A9 0016 1397 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Dec-1999 16:04:30-GMT,2202;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA23845 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 09:04:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA12893; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 09:48:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Dec 1999 09:47:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA12768; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 09:47:00 -0600 Message-Id: <199912171546.HAA19600@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 07:49:34 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 & Find/Search. From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > What other ways are we able to create our own > index by typing keywords and then attaching them to the different > documents? Take advantage of the Title, Subject, Author, Keywords metadata fields in FILE/DOCUMENT_INFO/GENERAL. Whatever you enter here can be indexed with Acrobat Catalog and subsequently cross-document searched using the index. -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.pdfresearch.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Dec-1999 16:07:48-GMT,2766;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA23941 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 09:07:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA14176; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:01:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:00:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA14054; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:00:12 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991217155724.00980550@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-Sender: martinb@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 15:57:24 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Martin Bailey Subject: RE: [PDF] Problems base 13 In-Reply-To: References: <000d01bf4896$bd085f40$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> <000d01bf4896$bd085f40$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >At 1:58 PM +0000 12/17/99, Aandi Inston wrote: >>No, forms can only use the base 13 fonts (except through "icons"). >>Developers have not been able to overcome this limitation in plug-ins. My understanding is that this is an Acrobat limitation rather than a PDF one - would somebody like to confirm that? Regards Martin Bailey ------------------------------------------------------------- Senior Technical Consultant martinb@harlequin.com Digital Print & Publishing +44 1223 873800 Harlequin http://www.harlequin.com ------------------------------------------------------------- If my views didn't usually coincide with those of my employer I probably wouldn't work here, but I am not a spokesman for Harlequin and the buck stops with me for what I say. ------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Dec-1999 16:41:38-GMT,2119;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24804 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 09:41:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA16271; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:24:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:23:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16146; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:23:13 -0600 Message-ID: From: Donna Russell To: "PDF Mail List (E-mail)" Subject: [PDF] Acrobat's "Find" Command Not Working, I think. Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:23:02 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ When I enter a word to be located in a PDF file, Acrobat consistently can't find it. I know the word is there. It's part of a software feature I had to document. What am I doing wrong? I accessed the "Find" command from the Edit menu, entered my word, left the option boxes unchecked and then clicked "Find". Acrobat searches the PDF file, but comes up with nothing. I'm running Acrobat 4.0 on Windows NT. Thank you for your help, Donna ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Dec-1999 18:26:13-GMT,2535;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27565 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 11:26:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26484; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 12:17:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Dec 1999 12:16:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26323; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 12:16:21 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Problems base 13 Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 18:16:07 -0000 Message-ID: <001001bf48ba$cadd9760$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19991217155724.00980550@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >>No, forms can only use the base 13 fonts (except through "icons"). > >>Developers have not been able to overcome this limitation > in plug-ins. > > My understanding is that this is an Acrobat limitation rather > than a PDF > one - would somebody like to confirm that? The PDF specification does not require this. As I understand it, it follows from the need to make forms actually work (interact). It's easy enough to arrange that they display with any PDF font, but the interactivity of forms is handled using platform fonts. There's no guarantee a PDF font is on the platform, and many of the fonts in a PDF are in a form that the platform wouldn't like anyway... Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Dec-1999 18:26:13-GMT,3080;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27564 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 11:26:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26346; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 12:16:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Dec 1999 12:10:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25848; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 12:10:22 -0600 Message-ID: From: "McClure, Mary M" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat's "Find" Command Not Working, I think. Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 12:10:02 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ What word are you searching for? Acrobat maintains a list of "stop" words that it doesn't include in the index. Words such as: about, among, and, or, nor, for, ... You can view this list from Catalog in the Options dialog after you open the .pdx file used to build the Index. -----Original Message----- From: Donna Russell [mailto:donna@aimetering.com] Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 8:23 AM To: PDF Mail List (E-mail) Subject: [PDF] Acrobat's "Find" Command Not Working, I think. The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ When I enter a word to be located in a PDF file, Acrobat consistently can't find it. I know the word is there. It's part of a software feature I had to document. What am I doing wrong? I accessed the "Find" command from the Edit menu, entered my word, left the option boxes unchecked and then clicked "Find". Acrobat searches the PDF file, but comes up with nothing. I'm running Acrobat 4.0 on Windows NT. Thank you for your help, Donna ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Dec-1999 18:27:37-GMT,2414;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27602 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 11:27:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26870; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 12:19:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Dec 1999 12:18:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26615; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 12:18:39 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat's "Find" Command Not Working, I think. Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 18:18:26 -0000 Message-ID: <001101bf48bb$1ccf5fe0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > When I enter a word to be located in a PDF file, Acrobat > consistently can't > find it. I know the word is there. It's part of a software > feature I had to > document. What am I doing wrong? Probably nothing. In many PDF files the text cannot be located with FIND. Here's a quick test. Try and select the text you are searching for. If you don't succeed, it isn't text at all. If you do succeed, copy and paste to another application. Can you read it? In many cases, it is just gobbledegook, and Acrobat can't help you. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Dec-1999 19:59:21-GMT,2442;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA29792 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 12:59:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01411; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:45:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:42:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01067; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:42:25 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991217144352.00a1e100@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 14:43:52 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat's "Find" Command Not Working, I think. In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >What word are you searching for? Acrobat maintains a list of "stop" words >that it doesn't include in the index. Words such as: about, among, and, or, >nor, for, ... True, but Donna's using the Find command, not Search (iow, no PDX involved). Just checked, and Find will return hits on "and" and the like. ISTR that there are problems with some drivers/NT/TT fonts and both Find and Search not turning up hits on words that are there and visible in the PDF itself. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Dec-1999 21:19:04-GMT,2721;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01434 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 14:19:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07945; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 14:59:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Dec 1999 14:55:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA07674; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 14:55:47 -0600 From: "David Bronson" To: Subject: [PDF] Document Developement Pricing Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 15:53:08 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello All, I have been lurking for about a year now and have enjoyed and learned from the discussions. I have developed an Acrobat Document (about four legal pages of formatted fields and javascript calculated fields). Similar to a four page tax document. I have been contacted by a potential purchaser. My issue is that I am not sure what the product is worth - I have several hundred hours in developement time and testing. I want to be fair to both the purchasers and myself. It performs the desired task well and it is a good fit for their needs. Can anyone respond with advice (either publically or privately) about establishing a valuation. I have presented the possibility of a continuing relationship (as a consultant perhaps) to assist in future developement of the product and they are open to that idea. Thanks in Advance, David ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17-Dec-1999 21:47:44-GMT,4089;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02002 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 14:47:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10746; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 15:33:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 17 Dec 1999 15:31:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10607; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 15:31:33 -0600 Message-ID: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A60FF3A8@PARAV_SERVER> From: Vincent Huang To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Document Developement Pricing Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:41:08 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ My 2 cents: 1. What would cost them if they develop in-house. note that if they develop from scratch, they may need to go through the whole nine yard. From Spec definition to product testing, documentation, etc....(e.g they might need 6 man months to develop at $15K loaded monthly cost) 2. Is there any special domain knowledge (special industry hard to find know-how, e.g they have to spend x number of hours of consultant fee at y per hour)) 3. Any time-to-market advantage? (If it takes them 5 month to introduce the product, the lost revenue could be $zzz) 4. Any risk of project failure (some algorithm based development has certain risks, say 50%) Factor all these in then you have a base line for discussion. Make sure you don't price yourself out of the business (you certainly don't want leave too much $$$ on the table either) Good luck! Cheers/Vincent PageGenie: Advanced PDF Capturing Technologies.... http://www.pagegenie.com -----Original Message----- From: David Bronson [mailto:dbron@roman.net] Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 12:53 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Document Developement Pricing The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello All, I have been lurking for about a year now and have enjoyed and learned from the discussions. I have developed an Acrobat Document (about four legal pages of formatted fields and javascript calculated fields). Similar to a four page tax document. I have been contacted by a potential purchaser. My issue is that I am not sure what the product is worth - I have several hundred hours in developement time and testing. I want to be fair to both the purchasers and myself. It performs the desired task well and it is a good fit for their needs. Can anyone respond with advice (either publically or privately) about establishing a valuation. I have presented the possibility of a continuing relationship (as a consultant perhaps) to assist in future developement of the product and they are open to that idea. Thanks in Advance, David ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Dec-1999 8:52:35-GMT,2085;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA29314 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 01:20:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA15312; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 02:04:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Dec 1999 01:57:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA14728; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 01:57:24 -0600 Message-Id: <01BF4AC8.715650A0.fsjogren@folksam.se> From: "Fredrik Sjogren" To: "PDF (E-postl)" Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:58:53 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet-e-post/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id BAA14724 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ where can i get the SDK for Acrobat Exchange 3.x? i can´t find it on adobes site. \\\freek ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- fredrik sjögren, Graphics R/D voice: +46 8 772 66 36 Folksam fax: +46 8 643 45 91 106 60 Stockholm ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Dec-1999 12:02:51-GMT,2396;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA02967 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 05:02:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA29004; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 05:53:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Dec 1999 05:50:02 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA28770; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 05:50:01 -0600 Message-ID: <0868D309E426D31191E50008C71E3D458C42FA@mailogabn1.kmg.com> From: "Ward, Sally" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Paging large PDF files over the intranet/web Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 05:42:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ It is my understanding that it is possible to set things up so that only one page at a time (?or a configurable number of pages?) is retrieved over the web, rather than the whole file being downloaded to the browser; when the user chooses to view another page, it is downloaded. For large documents, this clearly has performance benefits, especially where bandwidth is limited. What I can't seem to find out is how to set this up: - is it an option when the document is first converted/scanne to pdf? - is it configured on the web server? - is it an option in the browser? Can someone point me in the right direction as to where this might be documented? Thankyou Sally Ward Business Analyst Kerr-McGee North Sea (UK) Ltd ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Dec-1999 12:30:35-GMT,2825;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA03429 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 05:30:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA30476; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 06:13:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Dec 1999 06:09:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA30213; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 06:09:57 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Paging large PDF files over the intranet/web Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:09:51 -0000 Message-ID: <000001bf4ae3$1ed26600$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <0868D309E426D31191E50008C71E3D458C42FA@mailogabn1.kmg.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > It is my understanding that it is possible to set things up > so that only one > page at a time (?or a configurable number of pages?) is > retrieved over the > web, rather than the whole file being downloaded to the > browser; when the > user chooses to view another page, it is downloaded. Yes. This is called "byte serving" and is automatic. Requirements. 1. The PDF file must be optimized. 2. The user must be viewing the PDF file WITHIN a browser window, not in the Reader window. 3. The web browser must support byte serving. Most now do. To see an illustration of this, type in the URL http://partners.adobe.com/asn/developer/acrosdk/DOCS/apiovr.pdf This is a 1.2M file, yet you should see the first page fairly quickly - after about 220K has downloaded. Note that this is not instant. Certain things get downloaded with the first page, such as all form fields and bookmarks, which can still delay that first page. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Dec-1999 13:31:43-GMT,8358;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA04459 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 06:31:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02045; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 07:20:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Dec 1999 07:17:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA01782; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 07:17:04 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 18:46:55 +0530 From: "ANIL LILWA" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re:pdf-digest for December-20-99 [V2 #687] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id HAA01775 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Dear Friend, I am on leave till 29-12-1999. I shall come back to on this issue asap. Regards, Anil Lilwa >>> "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" 12/20/99 13:27 >>> pdf-digest Monday, December 20 1999 Volume 02 : Number 687 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- There are 2 messages totalling 191 lines in this issue. Topics of the Day: 1. [PDF] Document Developement Pricing 2. RE: [PDF] Document Developement Pricing __________________________________________________________ This is the Digest of the PDF discussion list A service provided to the PDF Community by PDFzone.com <- Search more than 300 plug-ins and tools for Acrobat -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolfilter.html -> __________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 15:53:08 -0500 From: "David Bronson" Subject: [PDF] Document Developement Pricing The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello All, I have been lurking for about a year now and have enjoyed and learned from the discussions. I have developed an Acrobat Document (about four legal pages of formatted fields and javascript calculated fields). Similar to a four page tax document. I have been contacted by a potential purchaser. My issue is that I am not sure what the product is worth - I have several hundred hours in developement time and testing. I want to be fair to both the purchasers and myself. It performs the desired task well and it is a good fit for their needs. Can anyone respond with advice (either publically or privately) about establishing a valuation. I have presented the possibility of a continuing relationship (as a consultant perhaps) to assist in future developement of the product and they are open to that idea. Thanks in Advance, David ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:41:08 -0800 From: Vincent Huang Subject: RE: [PDF] Document Developement Pricing The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ My 2 cents: 1. What would cost them if they develop in-house. note that if they develop from scratch, they may need to go through the whole nine yard. From Spec definition to product testing, documentation, etc....(e.g they might need 6 man months to develop at $15K loaded monthly cost) 2. Is there any special domain knowledge (special industry hard to find know-how, e.g they have to spend x number of hours of consultant fee at y per hour)) 3. Any time-to-market advantage? (If it takes them 5 month to introduce the product, the lost revenue could be $zzz) 4. Any risk of project failure (some algorithm based development has certain risks, say 50%) Factor all these in then you have a base line for discussion. Make sure you don't price yourself out of the business (you certainly don't want leave too much $$$ on the table either) Good luck! Cheers/Vincent PageGenie: Advanced PDF Capturing Technologies.... http://www.pagegenie.com -----Original Message----- From: David Bronson [mailto:dbron@roman.net] Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 12:53 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Document Developement Pricing The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello All, I have been lurking for about a year now and have enjoyed and learned from the discussions. I have developed an Acrobat Document (about four legal pages of formatted fields and javascript calculated fields). Similar to a four page tax document. I have been contacted by a potential purchaser. My issue is that I am not sure what the product is worth - I have several hundred hours in developement time and testing. I want to be fair to both the purchasers and myself. It performs the desired task well and it is a good fit for their needs. Can anyone respond with advice (either publically or privately) about establishing a valuation. I have presented the possibility of a continuing relationship (as a consultant perhaps) to assist in future developement of the product and they are open to that idea. Thanks in Advance, David ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:58:53 +0100 From: "Fredrik Sjogren" Subject: [none] The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ where can i get the SDK for Acrobat Exchange 3.x? i can*t find it on adobes site. \\\freek - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- fredrik sj÷gren, Graphics R/D voice: +46 8 772 66 36 Folksam fax: +46 8 643 45 91 106 60 Stockholm - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of pdf-digest V2 #687 ************************* List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Dec-1999 13:50:20-GMT,2487;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA04745 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 06:50:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA03585; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 07:41:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Dec 1999 07:37:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA03303; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 07:37:16 -0600 From: "Andy Den Tandt" To: Subject: [PDF] Marked Content Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 14:41:47 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bf4aef$f6c359a0$0700a8c0@enfocus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, Does anybody know of programs that use the Marked Content operators meaningfully? I am interested in seeing how programs use those operators to insert "hidden" content in the PDF. Currently I only know of Illustrator. There was a thread here last year and technical doc 5185 (AIMKDCNT.PDF) was mentioned. Does anybody know where I can find it - it doesn't seem to be on the Adobe website. Kind regards, Andy Den Tandt ============================================ Andy Den Tandt Software Development Engineer Enfocus Software Kleindokkaai 3-5 B-9000 Gent Belgium Voice: +32 9 269 16 90 Fax : +32 9 269 16 91 Email: andydt@enfocus.be web : www.enfocus.com ============================================ ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Dec-1999 14:15:33-GMT,2026;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA05205 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 07:15:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05259; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:04:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:01:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05042; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:01:13 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: sadler@mail.iname.com Message-Id: Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:00:56 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Adler Subject: [PDF] Text fields don't show on 3.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi I have created a form in acro 4 Mac with text fields for entry by the user. For some reason when a user views it on windows or mac 3.0, the text disappears once the cursor is tabbed. When the cursor returns to that field, the text appears. I have tried both auto and fixed text size and the "display on screen and when printed" option. Distiller 4 is set to Acrobat 3.0 compatibility. Any Ideas? Thanks ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Dec-1999 14:26:22-GMT,2534;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA05368 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 07:26:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA06523; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:18:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:15:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA06296; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:15:43 -0600 Message-ID: <385E38E5.E439AEB2@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 10:10:45 -0400 From: Bryan Guignard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Marked Content References: <000001bf4aef$f6c359a0$0700a8c0@enfocus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Does anybody know of programs that use the Marked Content operators > meaningfully? > I am interested in seeing how programs use those operators to insert > "hidden" content in the PDF. > > Currently I only know of Illustrator. > > There was a thread here last year and technical doc 5185 (AIMKDCNT.PDF) was > mentioned. Does anybody know where I can find it - it doesn't seem to be on > the Adobe website. I have a copy of that document (73 kb). Write me a personal email if you're interested in getting it and I can send you a copy, unless someone knows a reason why I shouldn't distribute it??? Although I've never checked the code for it, I suspect that Deneba Canvas (versions 5, 6 & 7) probably uses them since Canvas generated PDFs behave very similarly to Illustrator PDFs when they are opened in Canvas for editing. Bryan Guignard ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Dec-1999 14:38:44-GMT,3133;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA05563 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 07:38:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA07905; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:32:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:29:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07493; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:29:05 -0600 Message-Id: <199912201429.JAA23519@uakron.edu> From: "D. P. Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: Steve Adler , pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:27:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [PDF] Text fields don't show on 3.0 In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ On 20 Dec 99, at 9:00, Steve Adler wrote: Date sent: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:00:56 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Adler Subject: [PDF] Text fields don't show on 3.0 Send reply to: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Hi > I have created a form in acro 4 Mac with text fields for entry by the > user. For some reason when a user views it on windows or mac 3.0, the > text disappears once the cursor is tabbed. When the cursor returns to > that field, the text appears. I have tried both auto and fixed text size > and the "display on screen and when printed" option. Distiller 4 is set > to Acrobat 3.0 compatibility. Any Ideas? > > Thanks > It the color of the text set on white, or a non-white color? dps Dr. D. P. Story dpstory@uakron.edu http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Dept of Mathematics and Computer Science / University of Akron / Akron, Ohio 44325 AcroTeX Web Site: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html Site Includes: e-Calculus, Algebra Review in Ten Lessons, Mathematics Games, Pdfmarks:Links & Forms, Using LaTeX to Create Quality PDF Documents for the WWW, Web.sty and Exerquiz.sty Packages for LaTeX, and much, much more. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Dec-1999 14:39:33-GMT,3013;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA05586 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 07:39:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08021; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:34:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:31:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07752; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:31:20 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: leonardr@mail1.netreach.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000001bf4ae3$1ed26600$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> References: <000001bf4ae3$1ed26600$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:17:27 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Leonard Rosenthol Subject: RE: [PDF] Paging large PDF files over the intranet/web Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA07748 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 12:09 PM +0000 12/20/99, Aandi Inston wrote: >This is called "byte serving" and is automatic. > >Requirements. >1. The PDF file must be optimized. >2. The user must be viewing the PDF file WITHIN a browser >window, not in the Reader window. >3. The web browser must support byte serving. Most >now do. You forgot #4: 4) The web SERVER must support byte serving. Most now do. "Byte serving" was an extension to the original HTTP 1.0 specs proposed by Adobe specifically for doing this stuff with PDF's. It is now part of the HTTP 1.1 spec, so any 1.1 complaint server (and many 1.0 ones) have the feature - but you should check just in case! Leonard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You've got a SmartFriend in Pennsylvania ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard Rosenthol Internet: leonardr@lazerware.com America Online: MACgician Web Site: FTP Site: PGP Fingerprint: C76E 0497 C459 182D 0C6B AB6B CA10 B4DF 8067 5E65 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Dec-1999 14:55:39-GMT,2488;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA05863 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 07:55:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA09496; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:48:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:45:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09114; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:45:30 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Marked Content Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 14:45:18 -0000 Message-ID: <000101bf4af8$d57dcec0$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <000001bf4aef$f6c359a0$0700a8c0@enfocus> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Does anybody know of programs that use the Marked Content operators > meaningfully? > I am interested in seeing how programs use those operators to insert > "hidden" content in the PDF. Quite Imposing Plus makes use of these. For instance, when adding page numbers to a page, they are marked, so it is easy to say "remove all numbers". More complex is the marking applied around each page added to an imposition. This allows (a) information to be provided on the pages which went into an imposition (b) pages to be extracted from a layout into their original form (this does require a few more pieces of information outside the marked context). Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Dec-1999 14:56:35-GMT,2268;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA05901 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 07:56:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA09624; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:49:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:46:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09217; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:46:33 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Paging large PDF files over the intranet/web Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 14:46:27 -0000 Message-ID: <000201bf4af8$ff018de0$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >Requirements. > >1. The PDF file must be optimized. > >2. The user must be viewing the PDF file WITHIN a browser > >window, not in the Reader window. > >3. The web browser must support byte serving. Most > >now do. > > You forgot #4: > > 4) The web SERVER must support byte serving. Most now do. Absolutely right. In fact in "3" I typed browser when I meant server (no big difference, right?) Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Dec-1999 15:25:31-GMT,2790;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA06466 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:25:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA12350; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:18:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:15:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA12120; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:15:19 -0600 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 07:15:08 -0800 (PST) From: George Johnson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Text fields don't show on 3.0 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I have created a form in acro 4 Mac with text fields for entry by the > user. For some reason when a user views it on windows or mac 3.0, the > text disappears once the cursor is tabbed. When the cursor returns to > that field, the text appears. I have tried both auto and fixed text > size and the "display on screen and when printed" option. Distiller 4 > is set to Acrobat 3.0 compatibility. This odd behavior has been reported with fields that have been created with Acrobat 4 and viewed with a pre-4 viewer. A workaround appears to be to set the border color or backgound color to something; White is OK. Although I seem to remember a case where this did not work on a Mac, so you will want to experiment, and definately try 4.05 when you can. > Any Ideas? > > Thanks > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Dec-1999 16:50:58-GMT,2987;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08440 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:50:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA20860; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 10:49:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Dec 1999 10:43:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19811; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 10:43:55 -0600 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:43:52 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Kacvinsky Subject: [PDFdev] Security hole in Distiller 3.0/4.0. To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVES: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com PDFdev is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com _____________________________________________________________ Hi all, I searched the archives of these lists for exploit and "security hole". The only posts I found were those related to exploits/security holes found in PDF files. This security hole relates to the actual creation of a PDF file using Distiller. I am sure that some of you on this list are aware of what I am about to write about, but I'd like to make the point anyway. Distiller 3.0 (on Solaris 2.5.1, anyway) and Distiller 4.0 (for Macintosh and Windows) has a PS interpreter that defines the -file- operator. This means that Distiller can read any file on the system that it has read permissions for, and write to any file it has write permissions for. Obviously, Distiller should be run as a user which has restrictive permissons (at least on UNIX systems). I cannot speak with authority on how to restrict read/write areas on a Windows box. I tend to think the problem is most insidious on a Macintosh, where the concept of UID/GID has not yet made to the mainstream (OS X aside, for which Disitller isn't available). What is really frustrating about this is that the file/read/write operators can be buried in an eexec block, so they are hidden from the averaga joe sysadmin. I have alerted Adobe about this (via my support contract). The support person I talked recommended that I email the PDFZone mailing lists. I can provide sample code to those who want it. Regards, Tom ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Dec-1999 16:55:40-GMT,2993;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08559 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:55:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA20588; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 10:47:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Dec 1999 10:43:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19794; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 10:43:54 -0600 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:43:52 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Kacvinsky Subject: [PDF] Security hole in Distiller 3.0/4.0. To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi all, I searched the archives of these lists for exploit and "security hole". The only posts I found were those related to exploits/security holes found in PDF files. This security hole relates to the actual creation of a PDF file using Distiller. I am sure that some of you on this list are aware of what I am about to write about, but I'd like to make the point anyway. Distiller 3.0 (on Solaris 2.5.1, anyway) and Distiller 4.0 (for Macintosh and Windows) has a PS interpreter that defines the -file- operator. This means that Distiller can read any file on the system that it has read permissions for, and write to any file it has write permissions for. Obviously, Distiller should be run as a user which has restrictive permissons (at least on UNIX systems). I cannot speak with authority on how to restrict read/write areas on a Windows box. I tend to think the problem is most insidious on a Macintosh, where the concept of UID/GID has not yet made to the mainstream (OS X aside, for which Disitller isn't available). What is really frustrating about this is that the file/read/write operators can be buried in an eexec block, so they are hidden from the averaga joe sysadmin. I have alerted Adobe about this (via my support contract). The support person I talked recommended that I email the PDFZone mailing lists. I can provide sample code to those who want it. Regards, Tom ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Dec-1999 16:57:26-GMT,2042;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08604 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:57:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA20238; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 10:46:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Dec 1999 10:43:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19746; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 10:43:06 -0600 Message-ID: <19991220164830.6317.qmail@nwcst287.netaddress.usa.net> Date: 20 Dec 99 17:48:30 MET From: Andreas Berg To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Direct printing of PDF files (NT) X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.4.0.33) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA19742 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I would like to be able to print PDF files directly to the standard Windows printer withoout any user interaction. Is this possible and how? Thanks, Andreas. ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Dec-1999 18:04:28-GMT,1801;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10254 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:04:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA27765; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:57:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:53:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA27352; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:53:13 -0600 Message-ID: <385E5241.845592C5@netclerk.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:58:57 -0600 From: sriram X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Hiding a button Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I have buttons for various action in the PDF. I need to hide a button programmatically. If anyone knows how to do that, please let me know. Thanks in advance. Sriram. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Dec-1999 18:28:30-GMT,2547;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10918 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:28:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29899; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:21:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:19:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA29543; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:19:08 -0600 Message-ID: <385E5854.965D5367@netclerk.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 10:24:52 -0600 From: sriram X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Hiding a button References: <385E5241.845592C5@netclerk.com> <385E7032.20F4358C@nbnet.nb.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ If we can hide using FDFTK, setting some properties in the fdf, it will be good. If that's not possible, javascript should be fine. Bryan Guignard wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > > I have buttons for various action in the PDF. I need to hide a button > > programmatically. If anyone knows how to do that, please let me know. > > Will javascript do? > > Bryan Guignard > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Dec-1999 18:28:43-GMT,1863;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10925 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:28:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29248; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:14:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:11:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28962; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:11:39 -0600 Message-ID: <385E7032.20F4358C@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 14:06:42 -0400 From: Bryan Guignard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Hiding a button References: <385E5241.845592C5@netclerk.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I have buttons for various action in the PDF. I need to hide a button > programmatically. If anyone knows how to do that, please let me know. Will javascript do? Bryan Guignard ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Dec-1999 18:38:16-GMT,2144;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11320 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:38:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA30807; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:31:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:28:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA30499; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:28:48 -0600 From: "George Johnson" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Hiding a button Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 10:30:56 -0800 Message-ID: <000001bf4b18$5aadc860$04e78e8c@geo_ws1.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <385E5241.845592C5@netclerk.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I have buttons for various action in the PDF. I need to hide a button > programmatically. If you mean with JavaScript, you would do something like: this.getField("button1").hidden = true; or the following, which will only work with 4+ viewers: this.getField("button1").display = display.hidden ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Dec-1999 18:49:35-GMT,1684;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11615 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:49:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA31628; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:41:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:37:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA31285; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:37:47 -0600 Message-ID: <19991220183735.74408.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [131.216.128.250] From: "Litho Fayne" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] remove Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 10:37:35 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Dec-1999 19:42:34-GMT,2043;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12965 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:42:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03595; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 13:35:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Dec 1999 13:30:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03298; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 13:30:41 -0600 From: "George Johnson" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Hiding a button Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:32:52 -0800 Message-ID: <000001bf4b21$01879550$04e78e8c@geo_ws1.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <385E5854.965D5367@netclerk.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > If we can hide using FDFTK, setting some properties in the fdf, > it will be good. Try: FDFSetF = 9 FDFSetFlags "button1", FDFSetF, 2 This will result in an FDF containing: << /T (button1)/SetF 2 >> ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Dec-1999 20:19:46-GMT,2506;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13939 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 13:19:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05768; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 13:57:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Dec 1999 13:54:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05341; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 13:54:06 -0600 Message-ID: <385E6E95.3D24C955@netclerk.com> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:59:49 -0600 From: sriram X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Hiding a button References: <000001bf4b21$01879550$04e78e8c@geo_ws1.u.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I'm sorry. I think that's PERL. My language is JAVA. Can you help? George Johnson wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > > If we can hide using FDFTK, setting some properties in the fdf, > > it will be good. > > Try: > > FDFSetF = 9 > FDFSetFlags "button1", FDFSetF, 2 > > This will result in an FDF containing: > > << /T (button1)/SetF 2 >> > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20-Dec-1999 20:51:15-GMT,2185;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA14874 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 13:51:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09562; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 14:40:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Dec 1999 14:36:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09211; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 14:36:38 -0600 From: "George Johnson" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Hiding a button Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:38:44 -0800 Message-ID: <000001bf4b2a$359a5680$04e78e8c@geo_ws1.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <385E6E95.3D24C955@netclerk.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I'm sorry. I think that's PERL. My language is JAVA. Can you help? It's actually VB, using the ActiveX version of the FDF Toolkit. All you need to do is read up on the FDFSetFlags method in the FDF Toolkit documentation. > FDFSetF = 9 > FDFSetFlags "button1", FDFSetF, 2 > > This will result in an FDF containing: > > << /T (button1)/SetF 2 >> ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Dec-1999 0:21:59-GMT,2279;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA20008 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 17:21:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA25993; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:11:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:05:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA25621; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:05:51 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 15:59:32 -0800 From: John D Fisk To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Modifying location of files manually with "Go to View" link. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am trying to use "Go to View" to link to a certain page in a document on a web server. The document I am trying to link to currently resides in a web "staging" area. Therefore, the web address will eventually change. If I use "Go to View" and click my way to the file/page I am trying to find, it works fine at this point, but the link won't work once the web address changes. If I try to edit the destination in "Go to View" it does not give me the option to change the location of the file. In short, I want to be able to manually type in the destination URL in "Go To View" just the same as you can if you picked "World Wide Web Link". Can I do this? ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Dec-1999 0:43:53-GMT,2495;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA20541 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 17:43:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA27850; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:36:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:33:05 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA27578; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:33:05 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Modifying location of files manually with "Go to View" link. Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 00:33:01 -0000 Message-ID: <000201bf4b4a$f1165920$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I am trying to use "Go to View" to link to a certain page in > a document on > a web server. The document I am trying to link to currently > resides in a > web "staging" area. Therefore, the web address will eventually change. To build links successfully, you must either build them in the live context, or in a complete copy of the live context - a working model of the site. Or, at a push, just by having copies of the two files together in the same folder (or same relationship as they will have on the server). GoToView does not use a URL, just a file name, which is viewed in the context of the web server. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Dec-1999 13:23:00-GMT,1654;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA03457 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 06:22:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA09512; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 07:10:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Dec 1999 07:04:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08862; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 07:04:35 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 08:09:42 -0500 Subject: [PDF] remove From: "dan still" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1266341056-81950063@bennettgraphics.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Dec-1999 14:03:56-GMT,2165;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA04079 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 07:03:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA13347; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 07:55:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Dec 1999 07:52:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA13078; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 07:52:40 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: jhbauer@pop3.akula.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <385E7032.20F4358C@nbnet.nb.ca> References: <385E5241.845592C5@netclerk.com> <385E7032.20F4358C@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 08:51:52 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Jonathan Bauer Subject: [PDF] Web Page capture from file (Mac) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is on a Mac 9600/G3 300 I have not been able to capture a web page and convert it into PDF from a file on a local drive. I get file not found errors. I am forming the URL as file://HardDrive:myfile I cannot find instructions on how to do this so it works. Can someone point me in the right direction or to a location with help files. I only see help files for Windows in the Acrobat Guide. Thank you, Jonathan ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Dec-1999 14:26:32-GMT,2516;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA04466 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 07:26:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA15263; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 08:18:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Dec 1999 08:14:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14923; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 08:14:19 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Web Page capture from file (Mac) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 14:13:53 -0000 Message-ID: <001c01bf4bbd$9cd3eda0$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I have not been able to capture a web page and convert it into PDF > from a file on a local drive. I get file not found errors. I am > forming the URL as > file://HardDrive:myfile > That's surely wrong. My recollection is that a file URL has the form file://hostname/filename where hostname defaults to localhost and is usually omitted. This implies you must at least start with three slashes, not two. The format of the rest of the name is system dependent and may be browser dependent, but typically "/" is used as the directory separator. Try file:///HardDrive/myfile You may well need to ensure your file names end .htm or .html, but perhaps not. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Dec-1999 14:34:48-GMT,2005;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA04633 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 07:34:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA15264; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 08:18:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Dec 1999 08:14:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14961; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 08:14:50 -0600 Message-ID: <4BC88098C5DDCF11A5E40000F8014BA701F669FD@mshmshois1p.mss.tva.gov> From: "Norman, James Dan" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: Paging large PDF files over the intranet/web Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:14:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ 5. User/client must be using Reader version 3.0 or higher. Browser must support it, too - you were correct even if by accident - Netscape version 3 or higher, OR, IE 3 or higher. 6. Users with Internet Explorer version 5 must use Reader version 4. Option: 7. Some Search engines (if you use one) support byteserving, and some do not. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Dec-1999 14:34:58-GMT,2331;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA04638 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 07:34:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA16140; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 08:25:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Dec 1999 08:22:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA15877; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 08:22:31 -0600 Message-ID: <385F8BFF.DD6B172E@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:17:35 -0400 From: Bryan Guignard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Web Page capture from file (Mac) References: <385E5241.845592C5@netclerk.com> <385E7032.20F4358C@nbnet.nb.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > This is on a Mac 9600/G3 300 > > I have not been able to capture a web page and convert it into PDF > from a file on a local drive. I get file not found errors. I am > forming the URL as > file://HardDrive:myfile Your URL is incorrect. You will find several explanations of how to accurately do this at PlanetPDF.com. Open your favorite web browser and navigate to the file in question, then copy the path that is displayed in your web browser. Now paste that path into the Acrobat web capture dialog and you will have the correct path. Bryan Guignard ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Dec-1999 15:18:03-GMT,2653;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA05441 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 08:18:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA19976; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:08:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:05:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19637; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:05:45 -0600 Message-ID: <912D474F4F6FD2119ADB00902717752F27F40E@IFCEX02NT> From: "LaBrecque, Sharyl IFC" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:54:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Help! I recall seeing a message on the pdf list about full text searchs. I didn't pay much attention to it until I had the same problem. A problem that I did not have in Acrobat 3.0. However, in 4.0, when indexing my files (electronic files saved as post script and then run through the distiller), I get nothing but garbage. They show up fine on the screen, but when I search the index on a word that I know is used several times, I get nothing. I then selected the text in the pdf document and pasted it into a microsoft word doc and it was absolute garbage. No wonder it can't find it! What am I doing wrong here? Is printing to pdfwriter more reliable than using the distiller? Well as Murphy would have it, I did not find out that my pdf files were trash until the job (three manuals, multiple files totaling 3,000 plus pages) were completed. Back to square one. Shame on me for once again ignoring old Murphy. Please help! Sharyl LaBrecque International Fuel Cells (Publications Dept.) Email: slabrec@ifc.utc.com Tele: (860) 727-2326 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Dec-1999 15:19:27-GMT,2195;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA05457 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 08:19:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20108; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:09:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:06:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19675; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:06:48 -0600 From: Cybergrphx@aol.com Message-ID: <0.22328bd3.2590f17b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:06:35 EST Subject: [PDF] Acrobat across multiple CD-ROMs To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 170 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ What is the best way to set up Acrobat to work with a set of 4-5 CD-ROMs? We would be in a position of having a "main" document reference (link to) other subordinate documents and would like the user to be prompted on which CD-ROM to insert into the drive when that particular resource is required. >From reading other postings, I am aware that we are not able to have a functional index span multiple discs, but that is not our concern (yet). Any third party software to aid in this process, or is it going to require custom programming? Thanks Rob Robertson Cybergraphix, Inc. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Dec-1999 15:37:46-GMT,3089;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA05871 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 08:37:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22289; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:30:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:25:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA21933; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:25:38 -0600 Message-ID: <001201bf4bc7$46b4eaa0$7d191b3f@GTEweb2263f> From: "Susan Gililland" To: References: <0.22328bd3.2590f17b@aol.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat across multiple CD-ROMs Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 07:23:02 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 7:06 AM Subject: [PDF] Acrobat across multiple CD-ROMs > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > What is the best way to set up Acrobat to work with a set of 4-5 CD-ROMs? > > We would be in a position of having a "main" document reference (link to) > other subordinate documents and would like the user to be prompted on which > CD-ROM to insert into the drive when that particular resource is required. > > From reading other postings, I am aware that we are not able to have a > functional index span multiple discs, but that is not our concern (yet). > > Any third party software to aid in this process, or is it going to require > custom programming? > > Thanks > > Rob Robertson > Cybergraphix, Inc. > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Dec-1999 16:13:18-GMT,2820;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06622 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:13:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25467; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:05:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:01:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA24978; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:01:06 -0600 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991221104934.00ced100@dionis.com> X-Sender: m2456601@mail.9netave.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:57:07 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel-Ari Feinberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Modifying location of files manually with "Go to View" link. - Base URL In-Reply-To: <199912211304.HAA08882@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ To make your Goto View links work on the web, you need to set the Base URL. File->Document Info->Base URL. If you have two files on your hard drive, the relative file path is stored in the link. Example: c:/project/first.pdf c:/project/second.pdf c:/project/support/third.pdf If I make a link in first.pdf to second.pdf, the path is stored as "second.pdf". If I make a link in first.pdf to third.pdf, the path is stored as "support/third.pdf". Imagine you put these on the web: http://www.dionis.com/first.pdf http://www.dionis.com/second.pdf http://www.dionis.com/support/third.pdf You need to set the Base URL for first.pdf to :http://www.dionis.com Set the Base URL for second.pdf also to :http://www.dionis.com You need to set the Base URL for third.pdf to :http://www.dionis.com/support If you do not set the base URL when going to the web, Acrobat will look for the linked files relative to where the file is sitting in a temporary directory instead of back on the web server. Regards, Dan-Ari Feinberg Dionis ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Dec-1999 16:38:29-GMT,2803;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07150 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:38:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27890; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:31:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:26:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27347; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:26:40 -0600 Message-ID: From: Jose Mera To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" , "'Cybergrphx@aol.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat across multiple CD-ROMs Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 11:29:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Rob, LibraryManager, from ISPA, Inc., DocMaestro Products Division, is a front end for CDs that allows for the distribution of PDF libraries that span multiple CDs. Among the several features it offers, one feature is when a user clicks on a link to open a PDF file on another disc, it prompts the user to insert the proper CD. LibraryManager is available in a CD Edition, Desktop Edition and CD Subscription Edition. Contact the undersigned directly for further information. Jose Mera VP DocMaestro Products Div. ISPA, Inc. 1700 McMullen Booth Rd., Suite C-3 Clearwater, Fl 33759 Phone: 727-669-8911 x222 Fax: 727-669-6410 -----Original Message----- From: Cybergrphx@aol.com [mailto:Cybergrphx@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 10:07 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Acrobat across multiple CD-ROMs The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ What is the best way to set up Acrobat to work with a set of 4-5 CD-ROMs? >>>>> Any third party software to aid in this process, or is it going to require custom programming? ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Dec-1999 16:38:52-GMT,4528;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07166 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:38:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA28044; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:32:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:27:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27483; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:27:43 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mgavin_list@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <385F8BFF.DD6B172E@nbnet.nb.ca> References: <385E5241.845592C5@netclerk.com> <385E7032.20F4358C@nbnet.nb.ca> <385F8BFF.DD6B172E@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 11:23:28 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mark Gavin Subject: [PDF] StampPDF Batch 2.0 for Macintosh Beta Test Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We have ported our StampPDF Batch 2.0 application to the Macintosh and we are looking for people who would be interested in beta testing the Macintosh version. Those interested in testing StampPDF Batch 2.0 on the Macintosh should be familiar with a AppleScript. StampPDF Batch allows you to stamp pages in one or more PDF documents with any type of text, for example, watermarks, page numbers, or information in the headers and footers of a page. The stamped text becomes a permanent part of each PDF document that's stamped. StampPDF Batch is an application designed to run in conjunction with other processes in an unattended environment and to handle high volume and on-demand production needs. The Macintosh version of StampPDF Batch is built as an AppleEvent server application. Using AppleScript; StampPDF Batch can be used with any of the available Macintosh Web Servers from the CGI interface. In addition, StampPDF Batch can also be driven from any AppleEvent aware service such as MacPerl and Frontier. StampPDF Batch 2.0 has the following new features: 1. Postscript Fonts - Stamp using any Postscript Type 1 font including BarCode and OCR fonts. 2. Base 14 Fonts - Built in support for the standard 14 fonts supported by Acrobat. 3. Color - StampPDF will now stamp text in any RGB color. 4. Multi-Line Stamps - StampPDF will now allow the user to place multiple line stamp items on the PDF page with full support for the StampPDF stamp variables. 5. Text Modes - In addition to solid, filled text, StampPDF now supports the use of outline and invisible text. Outline text is especially useful for stamping over images without obscuring the underlying image. Invisible text can be used to place text on a page which is to be indexed using a full text search engine or to covertly tag a PDF file. 6. Page Increments - StampPDF will now stamp any predefined increment of pages. For example, every second page to support odd and even pages. 7. Bates Numbering - The Bates Numbering legal notation has been added to this version of StampPDF Batch. This allows page numbers in the format of six characters, i.e., 000002 for page 2. Those interested in beta testing StampPDF Batch 2.0 for Macintosh can send their contact information directly to me at mailto:mgavin@digapp.com. For those interested in seeing StampPDF Batch 2.0 for Macintosh; we will be exhibitors in the Apple Developer Area at the MacWorld Expo in San Francisco January 4-8. Thank you. Mark Gavin Vice President, Software Development Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 http://www.digapp.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Dec-1999 16:39:01-GMT,2777;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07178 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:38:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27854; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:30:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:25:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27269; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:25:57 -0600 Message-ID: <912D474F4F6FD2119ADB00902717752F27F410@IFCEX02NT> From: "LaBrecque, Sharyl IFC" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: Acrobat 4.0 and Indexing Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 11:18:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Help! > > I recall seeing a message on the pdf list about full text searchs. I > didn't pay much attention to it until I had the same problem. A problem > that I did not have in Acrobat 3.0. However, in 4.0, when indexing my > files (electronic files saved as post script and then run through the > distiller), I get nothing but garbage. They show up fine on the screen, > but when I search the index on a word that I know is used several times, I > get nothing. I then selected the text in the pdf document and pasted it > into a microsoft word doc and it was absolute garbage. No wonder it can't > find it! What am I doing wrong here? Is printing to pdfwriter more > reliable than using the distiller? Well as Murphy would have it, I did > not find out that my pdf files were trash until the job (three manuals, > multiple files totaling 3,000 plus pages) were completed. Back to square > one. Shame on me for once again ignoring old Murphy. > > Please help! > > Sharyl LaBrecque > International Fuel Cells > (Publications Dept.) > > Email: slabrec@ifc.utc.com > Tele: (860) 727-2326 > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Dec-1999 16:41:38-GMT,4522;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07255 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:41:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA28472; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:35:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:27:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27471; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:27:42 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mgavin_list@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <385F8BFF.DD6B172E@nbnet.nb.ca> References: <385E5241.845592C5@netclerk.com> <385E7032.20F4358C@nbnet.nb.ca> <385F8BFF.DD6B172E@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 11:23:28 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mark Gavin Subject: [PDFdev] StampPDF Batch 2.0 for Macintosh Beta Test Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVES: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com PDFdev is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com _____________________________________________________________ We have ported our StampPDF Batch 2.0 application to the Macintosh and we are looking for people who would be interested in beta testing the Macintosh version. Those interested in testing StampPDF Batch 2.0 on the Macintosh should be familiar with a AppleScript. StampPDF Batch allows you to stamp pages in one or more PDF documents with any type of text, for example, watermarks, page numbers, or information in the headers and footers of a page. The stamped text becomes a permanent part of each PDF document that's stamped. StampPDF Batch is an application designed to run in conjunction with other processes in an unattended environment and to handle high volume and on-demand production needs. The Macintosh version of StampPDF Batch is built as an AppleEvent server application. Using AppleScript; StampPDF Batch can be used with any of the available Macintosh Web Servers from the CGI interface. In addition, StampPDF Batch can also be driven from any AppleEvent aware service such as MacPerl and Frontier. StampPDF Batch 2.0 has the following new features: 1. Postscript Fonts - Stamp using any Postscript Type 1 font including BarCode and OCR fonts. 2. Base 14 Fonts - Built in support for the standard 14 fonts supported by Acrobat. 3. Color - StampPDF will now stamp text in any RGB color. 4. Multi-Line Stamps - StampPDF will now allow the user to place multiple line stamp items on the PDF page with full support for the StampPDF stamp variables. 5. Text Modes - In addition to solid, filled text, StampPDF now supports the use of outline and invisible text. Outline text is especially useful for stamping over images without obscuring the underlying image. Invisible text can be used to place text on a page which is to be indexed using a full text search engine or to covertly tag a PDF file. 6. Page Increments - StampPDF will now stamp any predefined increment of pages. For example, every second page to support odd and even pages. 7. Bates Numbering - The Bates Numbering legal notation has been added to this version of StampPDF Batch. This allows page numbers in the format of six characters, i.e., 000002 for page 2. Those interested in beta testing StampPDF Batch 2.0 for Macintosh can send their contact information directly to me at mailto:mgavin@digapp.com. For those interested in seeing StampPDF Batch 2.0 for Macintosh; we will be exhibitors in the Apple Developer Area at the MacWorld Expo in San Francisco January 4-8. Thank you. Mark Gavin Vice President, Software Development Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 http://www.digapp.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Dec-1999 17:04:40-GMT,4121;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07819 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:04:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA31011; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:56:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:52:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA30590; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:52:28 -0600 Message-ID: <02c301bf4bd2$50ff7ec0$820110ac@vocaldata.com> From: "Mike Hiatt" To: References: <912D474F4F6FD2119ADB00902717752F27F410@IFCEX02NT> Subject: Re: [PDF] RE: Acrobat 4.0 and Indexing Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:42:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ You didn't say what your original file are in. If FrameMaker, make sure that when you print to a postscript file that you select Create Acrobat Data. Makes all the difference in the world, I found out. If Word, after you click on the PDF icon, select the Use Distiller option. This will create bookmarks, cross references, etc. in the PDF and allow for searching. Michel G. Hiatt Manager, Technical Publications VocalData, Inc. 972-354-2118 mhiatt@vocaldata.com ----- Original Message ----- From: LaBrecque, Sharyl IFC To: Sent: December 21, 1999 10:18 AM Subject: [PDF] RE: Acrobat 4.0 and Indexing > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > Help! > > > > I recall seeing a message on the pdf list about full text searchs. I > > didn't pay much attention to it until I had the same problem. A problem > > that I did not have in Acrobat 3.0. However, in 4.0, when indexing my > > files (electronic files saved as post script and then run through the > > distiller), I get nothing but garbage. They show up fine on the screen, > > but when I search the index on a word that I know is used several times, I > > get nothing. I then selected the text in the pdf document and pasted it > > into a microsoft word doc and it was absolute garbage. No wonder it can't > > find it! What am I doing wrong here? Is printing to pdfwriter more > > reliable than using the distiller? Well as Murphy would have it, I did > > not find out that my pdf files were trash until the job (three manuals, > > multiple files totaling 3,000 plus pages) were completed. Back to square > > one. Shame on me for once again ignoring old Murphy. > > > > Please help! > > > > Sharyl LaBrecque > > International Fuel Cells > > (Publications Dept.) > > > > Email: slabrec@ifc.utc.com > > Tele: (860) 727-2326 > > > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21-Dec-1999 18:39:47-GMT,2537;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09970 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 11:39:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA06366; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:29:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:24:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05947; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:24:24 -0600 Posted-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:59:02 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199912211959.MAA27309@Brockman.NetPub.Com> Subject: [PDF] Controlling encoding of font via Distiller? Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 11:28:41 -0700 x-sender: mgeary@imap.netpub.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Michael Geary To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Folks, I'm working with ASCII PDF files, and I'm mucking about with placed text. To do this, I distill a postscript file with Distiller. I tell Distiller to embed all fonts, which it seems to do. (I'm working with very generic fonts here) The question: Some fonts are encoded MacRoman (Helvetica), some are encoded WinAnsi. I notice that those fonts encoded MacRoman tend to include ALL characters (diacriticals), wheras those encoded WinAnsi only seem to include the base 128 characters. That's the essence of my problem. Can anyone propose a solution? I'd like the fonts to always be completely included, and I'd like the encoding to always be MacRoman. In appreciation of any help or insights, Michael Geary Michael Geary Interactive Architect SeraNova (801) 377-7928 x143 michael.geary@seranova.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Dec-1999 0:55:11-GMT,4005;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA18163 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 17:55:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA00893; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 18:35:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Dec 1999 18:29:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA00415; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 18:29:48 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: shell18.ba.best.com: fastio owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 16:29:45 -0800 (PST) From: Sam Ohzawa X-Sender: fastio@shell18.ba.best.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Paging large PDF files over the intranet/web Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ "Ward, Sally" wrote: >It is my understanding that it is possible to set things up so that only one >page at a time (?or a configurable number of pages?) is retrieved over the >web, rather than the whole file being downloaded to the browser; when the >user chooses to view another page, it is downloaded. For large >documents, this clearly has performance benefits, especially where >bandwidth is limited. >What I can't seem to find out is how to set this up: >- - is it an option when the document is first converted/scanne to pdf? >- - is it configured on the web server? >- - is it an option in the browser? >Can someone point me in the right direction as to where this might be >documented? Then, At 12:09 PM +0000 12/20/99, Aandi Inston wrote: >This is called "byte serving" and is automatic. > >Requirements. >1. The PDF file must be optimized. >2. The user must be viewing the PDF file WITHIN a browser >window, not in the Reader window. >3. The web browser must support byte serving. Most now do. Leonard Rosenthol wrote: > You forgot #4: > > 4) The web SERVER must support byte serving. Most now do. I think you forgot #5 which is critical for the plug-in to operate as Sally wants it (as I understand the original question): 5) In Acrobat Reader: File -> Preferences -> General and turn off the check mark for "Allow Background Downloading" Otherwise, the whole document WILL be downloaded eventually even if the user does not request any additional pages, clogging up the network pipe if it is thin (which she says she must allow for). Adobe should turn off this check mark for default installation. It is causing more problems than being of help in most cases. Benefit in terms of fast next page display is really marginal, compared with the adverse effects of clogged up network pipe on a slow connection. It makes sense only if the user doesn't do anything else while having a particular PDF document open. I don't think that's a good assumption about how a user operates. If the connection is fast and wide, again, there is no benefit (possibly only half a second of speed-up). No, there is no "cofigurable number of pages" to be downloaded. Sam Ohzawa - FastIO Systems - ClibPDF - TIFF2PDF - www.fastio.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Dec-1999 3:19:52-GMT,4162;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA20761 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 20:19:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA10365; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 21:09:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 21 Dec 1999 21:05:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA10178; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 21:05:22 -0600 Message-ID: <3860400F.A6DE35AC@texas.net> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 21:05:52 -0600 From: Robert Casey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for December-21-99 [V2 #688] References: <199912211304.HAA08882@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > It is my understanding that it is possible to set things up so that only one > page at a time (?or a configurable number of pages?) is retrieved over the > web, rather than the whole file being downloaded to the browser; when the > user chooses to view another page, it is downloaded. For large documents, > this clearly has performance benefits, especially where bandwidth is > limited. > What I can't seem to find out is how to set this up: > - - is it an option when the document is first converted/scanne to pdf? > - - is it configured on the web server? > - - is it an option in the browser? > > Yes. > > This is called "byte serving" and is automatic. > > Requirements. > 1. The PDF file must be optimized. > 2. The user must be viewing the PDF file WITHIN a browser > window, not in the Reader window. > 3. The web browser must support byte serving. Most > now do. > > Note that this is not instant. Certain things get downloaded > with the first page, such as all form fields and bookmarks, > which can still delay that first page. > > > 4) The web SERVER must support byte serving. Most now do. > > "Byte serving" was an extension to the original HTTP 1.0 > specs proposed by Adobe specifically for doing this stuff with PDF's. > It is now part of the HTTP 1.1 spec, so any 1.1 complaint server (and > many 1.0 ones) have the feature - but you should check just in case! Don't forget that the person reading your Acrobat File has numerous requirements: 1) The default value of the Acrobat Reader under Preferences is Allow Background Downloading - On. In order to avoid the whole file from being downloaded, your audience must change the default setting of their reader (this is a bad default - hint Adobe), 2) I find that access to the first Acrobat file, results in the first file being downloaded entirely (a bug). A workaround is to launch Adobe Acrobat first, then minimize. Then if you launch an Acrobat file via a link, byteserving works the first time. 3) Your reader program must be pretty new (3.01, 3.02, 4.0, 4.05). Earlier versions do not support byteserving or they have bugs. Comments on exact levels welcomed. 4) Your browser must be pretty new as well. Navigator 4.51 or higher and MS Internet Explorer V4 (not sure what level). Comments on exact levels welcomed. See my web site for end user instructions: http://www.rcasey.net/acrstart.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Dec-1999 20:02:12-GMT,2036;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA09522 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 13:02:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA11123; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 13:51:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Dec 1999 13:45:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA10372; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 13:45:35 -0600 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 11:45:19 -0800 Subject: [PDF] Catalog and multiple volumes From: Jeremy Stoltz To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I've got a pretty basic question about Acrobat Catalog. We're interested in using Acrobat Reader as the viewer for a couple of multimedia CD-Roms that would require searches across multiple CDs. Is it possible to do this? If so is there a way to create a user friendly dialog box telling the user to insert the correct CD if it currently isn't in the drive? Thanks, Jeremy ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Dec-1999 21:31:14-GMT,2193;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11263 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 14:31:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18379; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 15:20:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Dec 1999 15:17:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA18192; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 15:17:57 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Catalog and multiple volumes Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 21:13:19 -0000 Message-ID: <006501bf4cc1$5f87d600$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I've got a pretty basic question about Acrobat Catalog. We're > interested in > using Acrobat Reader as the viewer for a couple of multimedia > CD-Roms that > would require searches across multiple CDs. Is it possible to > do this? No, Catalog does not do that. The index and all files must reside on the same device. (Have you considered DVD?) Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Dec-1999 22:10:37-GMT,2439;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA11977 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 15:10:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21150; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 15:56:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Dec 1999 15:55:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21052; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 15:55:11 -0600 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 13:54:58 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Catalog and multiple volumes From: Jeremy Stoltz To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <006501bf4cc1$5f87d600$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thanks for the response. DVD would limit the market to much to make this a consideration. Could you recommend any developers which could create a plug-in to provide this functionality or other viewers besides PDF which will work. We were also considering Director for this project. Thanks, Jeremy On 12/22/99 1:13 PM, Aandi Inston at wrote: >> I've got a pretty basic question about Acrobat Catalog. We're >> interested in >> using Acrobat Reader as the viewer for a couple of multimedia >> CD-Roms that >> would require searches across multiple CDs. Is it possible to >> do this? > > No, Catalog does not do that. The index and all files must > reside on the same device. (Have you considered DVD?) > > Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Dec-1999 22:24:45-GMT,2575;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12235 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 15:24:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22629; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 16:12:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Dec 1999 16:11:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22482; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 16:11:21 -0600 From: Charles_Richardson@vapower.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: VANCPOWER To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525684F.007A07C6.00@smtpmta.vapower.com> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 17:11:10 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Catalog and multiple volumes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Jeremy, This was posted a few days ago: Could you recommend any developers which could create a plug-in to provide this functionality or other viewers besides PDF which will work. We were also considering Director for this project. Thanks, Jeremy ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ LibraryManager, from ISPA, Inc., DocMaestro Products Division, is a front end for CDs that allows for the distribution of PDF libraries that span multiple CDs. Among the several features it offers, one feature is when a user clicks on a link to open a PDF file on another disc, it prompts the user to insert the proper CD. LibraryManager is available in a CD Edition, Desktop Edition and CD Subscription Edition. Contact the undersigned directly for further information. Jose Mera VP DocMaestro Products Div. ISPA, Inc. 1700 McMullen Booth Rd., Suite C-3 Clearwater, Fl 33759 Phone: 727-669-8911 x222 Fax: 727-669-6410 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Dec-1999 22:27:26-GMT,2455;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12289 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 15:27:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22390; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 16:10:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Dec 1999 16:09:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22222; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 16:09:05 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Catalog and multiple volumes Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 22:03:48 -0000 Message-ID: <006f01bf4cc8$6c7a7c80$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Could you recommend any developers which could create a > plug-in to provide > this functionality or other viewers besides PDF which will > work. We were > also considering Director for this project. Conventional plug-in development cannot be used to extend the abilities of Acrobat Catalog or Search. But it is perfectly possible to have a plug-in integrated to a different search engine. It could also manage disk swapping. Cross-CDROM links would be another matter. Possible to set up a custom link type, but perhaps hell to author. I seem to recall reading of someone who has solved the first problem. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22-Dec-1999 22:38:56-GMT,2044;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12645 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 15:38:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA23856; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 16:26:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Dec 1999 16:24:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA23698; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 16:24:34 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 14:20:54 -0800 From: "Duff Johnson" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Catalog and multiple volumes Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Jeremy: Another approach would be a different search engine, such as Verity's CD-Web Publisher, which (they claim) supports disc spanning. Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. www.document-solutions.com >Thanks for the response. DVD would limit the market to much to make this a >consideration. > >Could you recommend any developers which could create a plug-in to provide >this functionality or other viewers besides PDF which will work. We were >also considering Director for this project. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Dec-1999 0:23:02-GMT,2435;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA14715 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 17:23:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA30175; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:00:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Dec 1999 17:58:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA29954; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 17:58:21 -0600 Message-ID: <38616581.9AF70DEC@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 19:57:53 -0400 From: Robert Richard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pdfzone Subject: [PDF] File Open action & Path change with AA 3.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ PDFZone list, Our situation is that we have created a PDF resource with multiple type of links: GTV & Form Tool. The Form Tool, we used the «File Open» action to link a main menu page to the numerous PDF files and vice versa. Now that we have this resource put or burned on a CD-ROM for archiving and Y2K, the path has change a bit: the W:/... path on our network has now become D:/... on the CD-ROM. Consequently, the «File Open» links are no longer working on the CD because of the drive letter. What can we do to remedy this problem in a simple and fast fashion? For a fact, I think that we should had modify and duplicate each link with the Form Tool on each PDF to redirect to D:/. Thanks in advance for reply. Robert Richard New Brunswick, Canada. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Dec-1999 0:29:29-GMT,2435;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA14827 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 17:29:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA31533; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:20:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:18:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA31375; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:18:41 -0600 Message-ID: <38616A47.2C242FE1@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 20:18:15 -0400 From: Robert Richard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pdfzone Subject: [PDF] File Open action & Path change with AA 3.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ PDFZone list, Our situation is that we have created a PDF resource with multiple type of links: GTV & Form Tool. The Form Tool, we used the «File Open» action to link a main menu page to the numerous PDF files and vice versa. Now that we have this resource put or burned on a CD-ROM for archiving and Y2K, the path has change a bit: the W:/... path on our network has now become D:/... on the CD-ROM. Consequently, the «File Open» links are no longer working on the CD because of the drive letter. What can we do to remedy this problem in a simple and fast fashion? For a fact, I think that we should had modify and duplicate each link with the Form Tool on each PDF to redirect to D:/. Thanks in advance for reply. Robert Richard New Brunswick, Canada. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Dec-1999 1:06:20-GMT,2406;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA15383 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:06:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA01099; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:57:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:54:05 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA00817; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:54:03 -0600 Message-ID: <38617369.9894C13A@the-silo.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 11:57:15 +1100 From: Rupert Freeman Organization: Silo Multimedia X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Maximum index numbers in 4.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi all After a 1 year layoff I am just back in to PDF matters with Acrobat 4. I have done a lot of work previously in V3 but nothing in 4. We have a rush job to do by Xmas which is cataloguing about 2000 individual pdf files from Word PC. I simply wanted to run catalogue, attach an index to the splash screen and include a search button which activates a menu item to open the search window. I seem to recall there was a limit to the amount of files in a single index. Can anyone see any other potential problems with this (seemingly) simple job ? We won't get two chances to get it right. -- Dean Laffan Real World Productions ph +613-9419-3966 email@realworld.com.au ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Dec-1999 7:07:55-GMT,3116;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA21347 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 00:07:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA21771; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 00:56:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Dec 1999 00:54:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA21626; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 00:54:17 -0600 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 22:54:10 -0800 (PST) From: George Johnson To: Pdfzone Subject: Re: [PDF] File Open action & Path change with AA 3.0 In-Reply-To: <38616A47.2C242FE1@nbnet.nb.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id AAA21616 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Our situation is that we have created a PDF resource with multiple type > of links: GTV & Form Tool. The Form Tool, we used the «File Open» action > to link a main menu page to the numerous PDF files and vice versa. > > Now that we have this resource put or burned on a CD-ROM for archiving > and Y2K, the path has change a bit: the W:/... path on our network has > now become D:/... on the CD-ROM. Consequently, the «File Open» links are > no longer working on the CD because of the drive letter. > > What can we do to remedy this problem in a simple and fast fashion? For > a fact, I think that we should had modify and duplicate each link with > the Form Tool on each PDF to redirect to D:/. You may want to consider replacing the Open File actions with Go To View actions. Unfortunately, there is no user interface in Acrobat to do this, but I recently wrote up some instructions on how it can be done using FDF files: http://www.pdfzone.org/resources/lists/pdf/199912/msg00145.html Using Go To View actions is better for a number of reasons, but they will require more work than simply opening the PDF in a text editor and performing a search-and-replace, which is an alternative. You could try replacing "/W/" with "/D/", assuming you're dealing with an absolute (as opposed to relative) file specification. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Dec-1999 13:47:11-GMT,2718;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA26741 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 06:47:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA12589; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 07:39:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Dec 1999 07:35:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA12281; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 07:35:37 -0600 Message-ID: From: Jose Mera To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] File Open action & Path change with AA 3.0 Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 08:37:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id HAA12274 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Robert, Did you use relative path links (..\files\)or hard coded paths (D:\files\)? If you used relative paths our LibraryManager product can resolve the link for whatever CD drive the end user is using. LibraryManager is a CD front end (GUI) that allows for multiple volume libraries and the maintenance of inter-volume links. Jose Mera VP DocMaestro Products Div. ISPA, Inc. 1700 McMullen Booth Rd., Suite C-3 Clearwater, Fl 33759 Phone: 727-669-8911 Fax: 727-669-6410 -----Original Message----- Now that we have this resource put or burned on a CD-ROM for archiving and Y2K, the path has change a bit: the W:/... path on our network has now become D:/... on the CD-ROM. Consequently, the «File Open» links are no longer working on the CD because of the drive letter. What can we do to remedy this problem in a simple and fast fashion? For a fact, I think that we should had modify and duplicate each link with the Form Tool on each PDF to redirect to D:/. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Dec-1999 14:10:55-GMT,2876;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA27065 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 07:10:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA14176; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 07:59:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Dec 1999 07:57:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA13940; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 07:57:14 -0600 Message-ID: <38622A41.242BBA5B@sric.sri.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 05:57:21 -0800 From: "Frank Midgley" Organization: SRI Consulting X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Acrobat Talk , PDF Subject: [PDF] Error 109 on opening PDF on MacOS 9 References: <199912230051.QAA06269@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Anyone seen this one before? I have created a CD-ROM using Toast 3.5.5 on a Mac. The CD-ROM is ISO-9660 but with Macintosh names allowed. There is a start-up PDF at the root of the disk that is set to auto-load an index from the CD. This works fine on all of the Win NT machines I tried and all Macs, except for one. It has MacOS 9 installed with Reader+Search 4.0.5. When the start-up PDF is double-clicked or opened from within Reader, it pops up and says "There was an error opening this document. There was an error reading this document. (109)". Opening any other PDF from the CD works just fine. Does anyone even know what error 109 in the Reader means? None of the obvious sites had any mention of this error code (apple.com, adobe.com, blueworld.com, pdfzone.com, macfixit.com) nor did MacErrors. Also tried rebooting with extensions off to no avail. The weird thing is, I can copy the entire CD to my hard drive and the PDF opens just fine... -Thanks Frank Midgley Software Developer SRI Consulting ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Dec-1999 15:22:18-GMT,3123;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA28138 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 08:22:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA19996; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:09:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:04:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19648; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:04:38 -0600 Message-ID: <386239F9.D3C7543A@comcom.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:04:25 -0600 From: Pat Leone-Thiel Organization: Commercial Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Catalog and multiple volumes References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Jeremy Stoltz wrote: > I've got a pretty basic question about Acrobat Catalog. We're interested in > using Acrobat Reader as the viewer for a couple of multimedia CD-Roms that > would require searches across multiple CDs. Is it possible to do this? If so > is there a way to create a user friendly dialog box telling the user to > insert the correct CD if it currently isn't in the drive? > My company did do this for a 2 CD set of OM manuals (which may be easier than 3+) but used a custom programming solution in addition to the Catalog tool. Before creating the final separate CDs we did have to "stage" ALL the PDFs together in one directory and run Catalog on them so now the index (*.pdx) was comprehensive. When the user opened the product a welcome screen appeared, and this index was attached. When the enduser did a Search and clicked on a manual title on the Search Results list they were prompted to insert the other CD if the PDF wasn't on the CD in the drive. (Where there's a will there's a way.) So, it is doable, hope this helps. -- Patricia Leone-Thiel ----------------------------------------------------------- Special Applications Manager pleone@comcom.com Commercial Communications, Inc. ph(414)369-6000 1225 Walnut Ridge Drive fx(414)369-5647 Hartland, WI 53029 1-800-362-8832 ----------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23-Dec-1999 18:22:29-GMT,1981;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01349 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 11:22:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03144; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 12:12:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 23 Dec 1999 12:07:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02617; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 12:07:57 -0600 X-Sender: weller@pop3.axion.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 10:09:06 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: weller@axion.net (Angus Weller) Subject: Re: [PDF] Error 109 on opening PDF on MacOS 9 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ The Macitosh Bible says that error messages between 108 and 117 are "Storage allocations errors" Hope that helps Frank ************************************* Angus Weller 2960 Cosgrove Crescent, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, V9S 3P8 Tel: (250) 729-7292 e-mail: weller@axion.net or travel-media@bc1.com Internet store: www.travel-media.com ************************************* ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Dec-1999 17:45:07-GMT,2233;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23928 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 10:45:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24172; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 11:32:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Dec 1999 11:24:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23494; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 11:24:03 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991223123546.0097b100@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 12:35:46 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] File Open action & Path change with AA 3.0 In-Reply-To: <38616581.9AF70DEC@nbnet.nb.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >a fact, I think that we should had modify and duplicate each link with >the Form Tool on each PDF to redirect to D:/. > That wouldn't be a universal solution, though, would it? Of the howevermany machines we have here, only my laptop's CD is D: ... it's something else on nearly all the other machines. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24-Dec-1999 18:57:08-GMT,2613;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA24906 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 11:57:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29197; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 12:47:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 24 Dec 1999 12:42:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28878; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 12:42:24 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] File Open action & Path change with AA 3.0 Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 18:42:13 -0000 Message-ID: <000001bf4e3e$98998500$510b83c1@gateway.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Now that we have this resource put or burned on a CD-ROM for archiving > and Y2K, the path has change a bit: the W:/... path on our network has > now become D:/... on the CD-ROM. Consequently, the «File Open» links are > no longer working on the CD because of the drive letter. This should not matter. Links should be made between files on the same device (disk, letter, partition, whatever). If they are, then the entire collection can be moved to other disks, servers, CDROM or whatever. Avoid cross-device links. If you must have any, just set up one point of connection to a local table of contents. If links WERE on the same device and they stop working on CDROM, name mangling by CD-writer may be to blame. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Dec-1999 17:16:03-GMT,2349;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00243 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 10:16:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00720; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 11:03:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Dec 1999 10:54:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA32725; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 10:54:50 -0600 Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 11:54:23 -0500 From: Michael Vorel Subject: Re: [PDF] File Open action & Path change with AA 3.0 To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199912271154_MC2-9281-7689@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA32721 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> Now that we have this resource put or burned on a CD-ROM for archiving > and Y2K, the path has change a bit: the W:/... path on our network has > now become D:/... on the CD-ROM. Consequently, the «File Open» links are > no longer working on the CD because of the drive letter.< Fast and easy fix... Remap the CD-ROM to drive letter "W" Not elegent if you have many users or you are distributing the CD. Michael "A truly great man never puts away the simplicity of a child. " Anonymous mvorel@compuserve.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Dec-1999 17:17:35-GMT,5443;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00259 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 10:17:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01131; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 11:07:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Dec 1999 11:04:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00858; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 11:04:26 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 22:33:43 +0530 From: "ANIL LILWA" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re:pdf-digest for December-27-99 [V2 #691] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA00853 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Dear Friend, I am on leave till 29-12-1999. I shall come back to on this issue asap. Regards, Anil Lilwa >>> "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" 12/27/99 22:24 >>> pdf-digest Monday, December 27 1999 Volume 02 : Number 691 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- There are 2 messages totalling 104 lines in this issue. Topics of the Day: 1. RE: [PDF] File Open action & Path change with AA 3.0 2. Re: [PDF] File Open action & Path change with AA 3.0 __________________________________________________________ This is the Digest of the PDF discussion list A service provided to the PDF Community by PDFzone.com <- Search more than 300 plug-ins and tools for Acrobat -> <- http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolfilter.html -> __________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 18:42:13 -0000 From: "Aandi Inston" Subject: RE: [PDF] File Open action & Path change with AA 3.0 The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Now that we have this resource put or burned on a CD-ROM for archiving > and Y2K, the path has change a bit: the W:/... path on our network has > now become D:/... on the CD-ROM. Consequently, the ˝File Open* links are > no longer working on the CD because of the drive letter. This should not matter. Links should be made between files on the same device (disk, letter, partition, whatever). If they are, then the entire collection can be moved to other disks, servers, CDROM or whatever. Avoid cross-device links. If you must have any, just set up one point of connection to a local table of contents. If links WERE on the same device and they stop working on CDROM, name mangling by CD-writer may be to blame. Aandi ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 11:54:23 -0500 From: Michael Vorel Subject: Re: [PDF] File Open action & Path change with AA 3.0 The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> Now that we have this resource put or burned on a CD-ROM for archiving > and Y2K, the path has change a bit: the W:/... path on our network has > now become D:/... on the CD-ROM. Consequently, the ˝File Open* links are > no longer working on the CD because of the drive letter.< Fast and easy fix... Remap the CD-ROM to drive letter "W" Not elegent if you have many users or you are distributing the CD. Michael "A truly great man never puts away the simplicity of a child. " Anonymous mvorel@compuserve.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of pdf-digest V2 #691 ************************* List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Dec-1999 17:24:40-GMT,2903;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00405 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 10:24:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02376; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 11:16:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Dec 1999 11:13:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01979; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 11:13:38 -0600 Message-ID: <38679E8D.66E7300A@homeaccount.com> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 12:14:53 -0500 From: Clay Murphy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for December-24-99 [V2 #690] References: <199912241724.LAA23522@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello All, I am a new subscriber and hope this issue has not been covered recently. I am attempting to set a target for a URL linked within a PDF. I inserted the links while creating the document in PageMaker 6.5. After distilling to PDF, I placed the document on our web server. Users open the document through a browser, with Reader acting as a plug-in or helper. I now want them to be able to click the links I installed without losing sight of the original document. Currently, the document is overwritten when users click the new URL. I want the linked web page to open in an entirely new browser window. In HTML, this is done by setting a specific target name within the hyperlink. Can something similar be done in PDF? In addition to PageMaker, I have Acrobat Exchange 3.0. Nevertheless, I don't see the target option in either application. Your help would be appreciated, Clay Murphy Technical Communication Analyst Home Account -- >From my close observation of writers...they fall into two groups: 1) those who bleed copiously and visibly at any bad review, and 2) those who bleed copiously and secretly at any bad review. Isaac Asimov - prolific American author ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Dec-1999 17:27:29-GMT,2877;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00484 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 10:27:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02506; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 11:17:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 27 Dec 1999 11:15:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02169; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 11:14:58 -0600 Message-ID: <38679EDD.6BCBAB47@homeaccount.com> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 12:16:13 -0500 From: Clay Murphy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Hyperlink targets References: <199912271654.KAA32744@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello All, I am a new subscriber and hope this issue has not been covered recently. I am attempting to set a target for a URL linked within a PDF. I inserted the links while creating the document in PageMaker 6.5. After distilling to PDF, I placed the document on our web server. Users open the document through a browser, with Reader acting as a plug-in or helper. I now want them to be able to click the links I installed without losing sight of the original document. Currently, the document is overwritten when users click the new URL. I want the linked web page to open in an entirely new browser window. In HTML, this is done by setting a specific target name within the hyperlink. Can something similar be done in PDF? In addition to PageMaker, I have Acrobat Exchange 3.0. Nevertheless, I don't see the target option in either application. Your help would be appreciated, Clay Murphy Technical Communication Analyst Home Account -- >From my close observation of writers...they fall into two groups: 1) those who bleed copiously and visibly at any bad review, and 2) those who bleed copiously and secretly at any bad review. Isaac Asimov - prolific American author ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Dec-1999 17:23:05-GMT,7621;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25739 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 10:23:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA26920; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 11:08:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Dec 1999 11:02:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26367; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 11:02:17 -0600 From: bilbo@interaccess.com Message-ID: <3868ECF1.7CC23235@interaccess.com> Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 09:01:37 -0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Hyperlink targets References: <199912271654.KAA32744@everglades.binc.net> <38679EDD.6BCBAB47@homeaccount.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------DAAC7CF3DFB658FE7BB1C2FF" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ --------------DAAC7CF3DFB658FE7BB1C2FF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Clay, I send this to you personally rather than to the group because I, too, had the same question. I pursued it on the .pdf group and also with Adobe. The final outcome was that, no, it was not possible to do in the current structure of Acrobat. For the definitive answer, or at least one that will help to relieve you of the feeling that you have not pursued every possible angle, call Tech Support and ask to speak with Velvet. I know that name seems unlikely but it's her name. And fits her very well. In any case, she should be familiar with this issue as we went through it just a few weeks ago. In my case, I need to have several hundred links in a large chart (108 inches wide printed) showing the sequence structure of a portion of the human genome covering 2.3 megabases. The only way I could figure out to do this (shown below) was to link to an external page that contained a JavaScript onLoad that opened my remote window and a redirect that then sent the original window back to my chart in the Reader plugin. This is an extremely clumsy arrangement that has the singular advantage that it works. I hope you will follow up with Adobe on this issue and maybe we can get them to design a plugin to accomodate this operation which seems to me to be an incredible omission from an otherwise excellent application. On the other hand, if you come across a better solution, I would be very interested in knowing about it. Thanks, Bill Bjornson bilbo@interaccess.com My clumsy solution: --------------DAAC7CF3DFB658FE7BB1C2FF Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Clay,

I send this to you personally rather than to the group because I, too, had the same question. I pursued it on the .pdf group and also with Adobe. The final outcome was that, no, it was not possible to do in the current structure of Acrobat. For the definitive answer, or at least one that will help to relieve you of the feeling that you have not pursued every possible angle, call Tech Support and ask to speak with Velvet. I know that name seems unlikely but it's her name. And fits her very well. In any case, she should be familiar with this issue as we went through it just a few weeks ago.

In my case, I need to have several hundred links in a large chart (108 inches wide printed) showing the sequence structure of a portion of the human genome covering 2.3 megabases. The only way I could figure out  to do this (shown below) was to link to an external page that contained a JavaScript onLoad that opened my remote window and a redirect that then sent the original window back to my chart in the Reader plugin. This is an extremely clumsy arrangement that has the singular advantage that it works.

I hope you will follow up with Adobe on this issue and maybe we can get them to design a plugin to accomodate this operation which seems to me to be an incredible omission from an otherwise excellent application.

On the other hand, if you come across a better solution, I would be very interested in knowing about it.

Thanks,

Bill Bjornson
bilbo@interaccess.com

My clumsy solution:

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  --------------DAAC7CF3DFB658FE7BB1C2FF-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Dec-1999 19:14:00-GMT,1957;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27855 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 12:13:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03866; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:03:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Dec 1999 12:59:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03387; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 12:59:54 -0600 Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 10:57:51 -0800 From: Pete Koolish Subject: [PDF] 4.05 Update In-reply-to: <3868ECF1.7CC23235@interaccess.com> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Adobe was to begin shipping the 4.05 update (to full Acrobat) on December 15th - has anybody received theirs? Pete ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Dec-1999 19:15:45-GMT,1804;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27881 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 12:15:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04440; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:07:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:05:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04074; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:05:12 -0600 Message-ID: <52266BE23363D3119FFA0090279C64FB321CEC@mailer> From: Diane Giangrossi To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] 4.05 Update Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 14:09:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Nope. I was kind of wondering about that, too. << > Adobe was to begin shipping the 4.05 update (to full Acrobat) > on December 15th - has anybody received theirs? > > >> ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Dec-1999 19:21:44-GMT,1685;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28021 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 12:21:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05329; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:14:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:11:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04963; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:11:48 -0600 Message-ID: From: Donna Russell To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] 4.05 Update Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:11:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ No, haven't receive the update yet. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Dec-1999 19:33:00-GMT,1957;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28226 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 12:32:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05703; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:16:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:14:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05259; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:14:10 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991228131238.00816550@omnipress.com> X-Sender: uschan@omnipress.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:12:38 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Christopher Uschan Subject: Re: [PDF] 4.05 Update In-Reply-To: References: <3868ECF1.7CC23235@interaccess.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ not yet, but anxiously awaiting. Chris Uschan ------------ Digital Resources Manager - OMNIPRESS phone: 608-246-2600 fax: 608-246-4237 Learn more about us at http://www.omnipress.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Dec-1999 20:05:38-GMT,2072;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28854 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:05:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09903; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:56:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:53:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09574; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:53:54 -0600 Message-Id: <199912281953.LAA21736@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 11:56:52 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] 4.05 Update From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Adobe was to begin shipping the 4.05 update (to full Acrobat) > on December 15th - has anybody received theirs? I have heard of two people who received it last week. I guess it is taking a while to get through the fulfillment list. -- C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.pdfresearch.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Dec-1999 20:05:43-GMT,2151;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28860 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:05:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08632; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:45:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:40:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA08215; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:40:36 -0600 Message-Id: <199912281931.NAA12885@fw1jdtv.jdpub.com> Date: 28 Dec 99 13:44:59 -0600 From: Jeff Rochon Subject: RE: [PDF] 4.05 Update To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA08207 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Reply to: RE: [PDF] 4.05 Update we have the update 4.05 update but i think we downloaded it off there website. -------- Pete Koolish wrote: > >The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > > > Adobe was to begin shipping the 4.05 update (to full Acrobat) > on December 15th - has anybody received theirs? > > Pete ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Dec-1999 20:06:50-GMT,2337;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28884 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:06:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08812; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:46:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:43:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA08481; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:43:38 -0600 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <3868ECF1.7CC23235@interaccess.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 11:43:30 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Karen Wasserman S&C Subject: Re: [PDF] 4.05 Update Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Yes. My systems administrator downloaded and installed Acrobat version 4.05a from on December 22. > Adobe was to begin shipping the 4.05 update (to full Acrobat) > on December 15th - has anybody received theirs? > Karen Wasserman, Prod. Mgr. Technical Analysis of Stocks & Commodities Technical Analysis, Inc. The Traders' Magazine 4757 California Ave. S.W. Phone: 206 938-0570 Fax: 206 938-1307 Seattle, WA 98116-4499 USA Web: http://www.traders.com/ _____________________________________________________________________ Contents may not reflect official opinion of Technical Analysis, Inc. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Dec-1999 20:44:28-GMT,3147;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29618 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 13:44:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13308; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 14:34:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Dec 1999 14:30:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA12974; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 14:30:51 -0600 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 14:30:25 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] 4.05 Update From: Al Manson To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ That URL gets you to the Reader download, not the full install. > From: Karen Wasserman S&C > Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 11:43:30 -0800 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] 4.05 Update > > > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Yes. My systems administrator downloaded and installed Acrobat version > 4.05a from > > on December 22. > > >> Adobe was to begin shipping the 4.05 update (to full Acrobat) >> on December 15th - has anybody received theirs? >> > > Karen Wasserman, Prod. Mgr. Technical Analysis of Stocks & Commodities > Technical Analysis, Inc. The Traders' Magazine > 4757 California Ave. S.W. Phone: 206 938-0570 Fax: 206 938-1307 > Seattle, WA 98116-4499 USA Web: http://www.traders.com/ > _____________________________________________________________________ > Contents may not reflect official opinion of Technical Analysis, Inc. > > > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Dec-1999 21:02:34-GMT,1950;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA29973 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 14:02:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14614; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 14:49:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Dec 1999 14:46:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14376; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 14:46:38 -0600 Message-ID: <00E1C8ECF9BDD211A5390090271B28FC0279CEC6@exchange.trapeze.net> From: "Bergerman, Matthew" To: "PDF (E-mail)" Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Exchange in Unix Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 15:46:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Using acrobat exchange, does anyone know how to run the PDF optimization through > command line under Unix environment? The program does provide this function from > their program interface under "File" menu (Batch optimize). I am trying to run > this as a batch job on a continuous basis. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28-Dec-1999 21:04:27-GMT,2370;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00013 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 14:04:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA15471; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 14:56:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 28 Dec 1999 14:53:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA15107; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 14:53:25 -0600 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 12:53:15 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Karen Wasserman S&C Subject: Re: [PDF] 4.05 Update Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >That URL gets you to the Reader download, not the full install. Yes, sorry, you are correct. My systems administrator said he received the Macintosh version Adobe Acrobat 4.05a on CD-ROM, and downloaded Acrobat Reader with Search 4.05 for both Macintosh and Windows 95 from Adobe's Website for our other machines. Karen Wasserman, Prod. Mgr. Technical Analysis of Stocks & Commodities Technical Analysis, Inc. The Traders' Magazine 4757 California Ave. S.W. Phone: 206 938-0570 Fax: 206 938-1307 Seattle, WA 98116-4499 USA Web: http://www.traders.com/ _____________________________________________________________________ Contents may not reflect official opinion of Technical Analysis, Inc. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Dec-1999 14:23:39-GMT,4466;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA17266 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 07:23:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17460; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 08:08:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Dec 1999 08:01:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA16910; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 08:01:53 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Balaji, V." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Creating PDF's as our universal viewables Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 14:01:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have been reading this list for a while, and have a question regarding PDF creation : We are trying to store "viewable" versions (PDF format) of all controlled documents in our company , and manage them with a PDM system for access, control and distribution, in order to transition from a paper document control system to an electronic one. Documents are created from a wide number of applications - Word, Excel ..etc., CAD applications etc. We are able to convert CAD drawings (multiple mechanical & electrical CAD applications) with no trouble. In the case of Office documents, there are again different formats, page sizes, mixtures of page formats within documents, macros etc. used by the individual departments. I am trying to find out a universal and painless way to convert all of these office documents to PDF, without giving each user a complete Acrobat Exchange license. One of the main advantages of PDF's for us, is that most users will not be able to edit them. Using Acrobat exchange and distiller seems to work very well except for the costs and the added abilities to edit PDF's. We have tried using Prepare-Convert (now called Viz View convert) from Engineering Animation which seems to be good, except there are always exceptions to things it does not handle - multiple page formats within the same document, multiple worksheets within a excel file ...., and my countless calls to their tech support leads me to wonder if there is a more elegant solution. One idea that I had was that I would install the universal Postscript print driver from Adobe through the company and users would all print postscript files and email it to the doc. control department, who could then convert all of them to PDF's. That does not seem to work well. I took the latest postscript drivers from Adobe, and tried it - and tried converting the postscript to PDF's using either distiller or Aladdin's ghostscript. I got a blank page many times, and some crossed lines over text at other times. I would like to know if there is one "universal" or "best" method of creating PDF's from any windows application without having to purchase Acrobat Exchange on all computers. I recently came across a PDF printer - DOCUCOM & DOCUMAKER (http://www.zeon.com.tw/), which at least from initial tests worked very well. It looks like a $50 license per computer, and you literally print to a PDF. I am looking for suggestions for a solution that coule be rolled enterprise wide that would work with the different page formats, page layouts, macros etc. that are typical in any company, and also if any body has used the DOCUCOM products - their experience etc. Thank you V. Balaji Sr. Systems Engineer Engineering Support Services Harman Motive, Inc. Ph: (765) 342 5555 x 527 Fax: (765) 349 2857 EMail: balaji@harman.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Dec-1999 14:24:06-GMT,2519;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA17270 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 07:24:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17910; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 08:12:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Dec 1999 08:09:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA17621; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 08:09:31 -0600 Message-Id: <4.3.0.20.19991229085829.00a79100@bresnanlink.net> X-Sender: fosmire@bresnanlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.0.20 (Beta) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 09:01:16 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "M. Sean Fosmire" Subject: [PDF] Version 4 and scanning with ADF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have been told that several models of scanner with ADF in the Fujitsu ScanPartner line (the 10 and 10c in particular) are incompatible with the use of a TWAIN driver under Acrobat 4. I believe that it is the Fujitsu-provided TWAIN drivers that are being used. By contrast, my ScanPartner 600c continues to function well under version 4, and indeed about 35% faster than under version 3. Has anyone had any experience or information about incompatibility issues? Are there viable solutions? ====================================================== M. Sean Fosmire fosmire@bresnanlink.net Garan, Lucow, Miller & Seward, P.C. http://www.garanlucow.com http://www.uplaw.net Superior Information Services, Inc. http://www.sismich.com/home.htm ====================================================== ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Dec-1999 17:34:50-GMT,3660;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20957 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 10:34:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00679; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 11:16:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Dec 1999 11:09:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA32690; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 11:09:22 -0600 Message-Id: <199912291708.JAA27501@wales.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 09:11:30 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating PDF's as our universal viewables From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I would like to know if there is one "universal" or "best" method of > creating PDF's from any windows application without having to purchase > Acrobat Exchange on all computers. It isn't Exchange that converts Postscript to PDF, it is Distiller. You are asking a PDF Workflow question. I think the problems you are having have less to do with the distribution of Acrobat products and more to do with the printer driver you are using at each location that is generating Postscript. The approach I would start off with*: 1) Determine the best driver for distribution throughout your enterprise. Drivers are free. So download the latest AdobePS driver for your doc. control conversion site, arrive at optimum "Job Option" settings for Distiller - depending on your network printers and uses of PDF. Then make sure your most used applications create good Postscript using the AdobePS driver you choose to standardize on. You might want to look at font issues - standardizing on Type 1 fonts might be a good idea. 2) Set up a watched folder that everyone in the enterprise has access to. You might segment this up into Distiller categories - Web, Print, Pre-Press, etc. 3) Set up simple AdobePS printing procedures for all enterprises users to use. 4) Install the AdobePS driver enterprise-wide. 5) Educate your user base on workflow procedures and printing using the AdobePS driver for specific applications (start with focused groups before implementing the rest of the company). 6) Begin receiving the Postscript files and Distilling centrally. There will necessarily be an orientation step (and an intranet web resource) required to get everyone up to speed on the workflow. But it sounds like a fun project. -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.pdfresearch.com *The best laid plans evolve as you progress through practical experience. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Dec-1999 17:59:31-GMT,1995;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21428 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 10:59:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03293; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 11:47:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Dec 1999 11:45:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03137; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 11:45:41 -0600 Message-Id: <199912291731.MAA03817@svr1.iei.net> From: "Rob Adams" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 12:43:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] need more control with capture pages X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi pdf folk, I have some printed documents that I need to convert. They are text with graphics. I am looking for a way to tell Acrobat which is which. I want to be able to define an area of the scan to be OCR'd and define other areas to be left as graphics. Is there some way to do this with Acrobat or a plug-in? Thanks! Rob Adams theshow@iei.net ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Dec-1999 21:27:01-GMT,1780;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25313 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 14:26:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22514; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 15:13:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Dec 1999 15:10:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22178; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 15:10:35 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 16:12:19 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: DaleH Subject: [PDF] Forms via email Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I'd like to have PDF form data submitted directly from Acrobat via email but all I can find under Button Field properties which might do this is "Submit Form" which only accepts http type URLs. Is this possible? Dale H. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Dec-1999 21:44:30-GMT,2551;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25657 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 14:44:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA25575; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 15:37:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Dec 1999 15:36:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA25377; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 15:36:19 -0600 From: "Rae Hanson" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] 4.05 Update Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 16:36:12 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0002_01BF521A.D1ED9960" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01BF521A.D1ED9960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yup, we just got ours today. ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01BF521A.D1ED9960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yup, = we just got=20 ours today. 
------=_NextPart_000_0002_01BF521A.D1ED9960-- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29-Dec-1999 23:14:01-GMT,2565;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27342 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 16:14:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA00408; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 16:54:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Dec 1999 16:52:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA00243; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 16:52:21 -0600 X-ROUTED: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 17:53:08 -0500 X-TCP-IDENTITY: Tonymck Message-ID: <01BF5225.C3B12FA0@r109.onix.com> From: Tony McKinley To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] need more control with capture pages Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 17:54:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id QAA00238 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Rob, Acrobat Capture decides all by itself what to maintain as graphics and what to OCR as text. That is its key advantage over OCR. No pre-zoning, no separate text and image components - it's all one beautiful thing. Of course it's not perfect, and you can fine-tune the results with the Touch-up Text Tool in Acrobat 4, or you can completely control final output through the Reviewer Tools in the Acrobat Capture standalone program. I'd start out by trying out the Capture features in Acrobat 4. If you'd like a more complete comparison of OCR to Acrobat Capture, I'd humbly recommend http://imagebiz.com/ocrlab.htm. Have a wonderful Y2K! Tony McKinley Captiva Software Corporation Director, Solution Sales Eastern US Email: tmckinley@captivacorp.com Voice: 610.647.5570 ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Dec-1999 2:03:55-GMT,3930;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA00432 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 19:03:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA13477; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 19:53:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Dec 1999 19:51:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA13332; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 19:51:29 -0600 Message-ID: <386AB87D.8F80DC16@wt.net> Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 19:42:21 -0600 From: Rick Bishop Organization: PRP_Media X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: Creating PDF's as universal viewables-LONG References: <199912292110.PAA22209@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Balaji: We have implemented something like what you are looking for, but it does require some administrative oversight. We currently have >15,000 pages instantly available to any user in the corporation. No special software or hardware needed. Set up a standard HP color laser postscript large format printer (virtual) and install it as a new local printer on the server. Then as a network printer to all user desktops. Name it something like "PDF_Printer". This can all be done from the server or the users can install the printer themselves. Tell them to select the printer, select paper size, color, etc. Then put a check in the "Print to File" box in the print dialog. When the "Print" button is clicked the user is prompted for a file name and location. Have them type a meaningful name for the document with no extension, and select a Mapped Network Drive location IN folder you have set up previously as a watched folder with Distiller. Then you or someone has to sort the documents into categories, make sure there are no illegal characters in the file name, set up and maintain a searchable index of all documents. You make a 'search' pdf page in your favorite word processor that gives the user instructions on how to use Acrobat Reader with Search. Place a shortcut to this 'search' page on all user PC's. (this is easy to do with a global .bat file) The user opens the 'search' page (located on the root of the mapped network drive) which has embedded open search dialog and attach indexes automatically commands. All they have to do then is type the keyword they want to search for and up pops a list of available documents that contain the keyword. E-mail me privately if you need more help with this. Rick Bishop Houston mailto:rbishop@wt.net "Balaji, V." wrote: We are trying to store "viewable" versions (PDF format) of all controlled documents in our company I am looking for suggestions for a solution that could be rolled enterprise wide that would work with the different page formats, page layouts, macros etc. that are typical in any company, and also if any body has used the DOCUCOM products - their experience etc. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Dec-1999 2:46:24-GMT,2317;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA01161 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 19:46:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA16154; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 20:35:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 29 Dec 1999 20:33:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA16004; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 20:33:23 -0600 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991230032835.0096e430@pop.iddeo.es> X-Sender: rt000pt9@pop.iddeo.es X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 03:39:44 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Ramon Roqueta Subject: [PDF] PDF's not viewed on a Mac Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi all I have a PDF file (version 1.2) created from Pagemaker 6.52. This PDF can be viewed with any problem in a Windows 95/98/NT workstations with Acrobat Reader 3.01 and 4.0 , but when is opened in a Macintosh G4 with Acrobat Reader 4.0 simply you can see NOTHING, I mean, the whole pages are blank. Only the bookmarks are shown ok. Since the file has been generated in a Win98 machine with Distiller 4.0, and there are no resource file for the Mac (the icon is not properly shown in the Mac) could be this the reason of the problem? Any help would be apreciated. Ramon ramon@revista-aquanet.com http://www.revista-aquanet.com ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30-Dec-1999 22:06:44-GMT,2968;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00876 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 15:06:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA19764; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 15:53:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Dec 1999 15:48:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19260; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 15:48:32 -0600 Message-ID: <386A80E7.C0BDEF8B@teleweb.at> Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 22:45:13 +0100 From: "Wilhelm G. JANY" Organization: WJT- Wien X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Forms via email References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Dear Dale, what you have seen, it`s right. We have done last year a solution for a customer, to send e-mail by the offline acrobat reader (reader plugin). If you are interested pls let me know more about your requirements best regards Wilhelm G. Jany - WJT jany@teleweb.at _______________________________________________________ Phone: +43 -1- 5223002 13 Mobile: +43-699-10 458 459 Internet: http://www.ipix.at WJT - Vienna; Schottenfeldg. 46/10; 1070 Vienna - AUSTRIA . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best regards DaleH wrote: > The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > I'd like to have PDF form data submitted directly from Acrobat via > email but all I can find under Button Field properties which might do > this is "Submit Form" which only accepts http type URLs. Is this > possible? > > Dale H. > > ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ > Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the > speed of your PDF JavaScript. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31-Dec-1999 1:51:19-GMT,2083;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA05336 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 18:51:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00964; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 19:38:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 30 Dec 1999 19:36:47 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA00864; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 19:36:46 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 20:38:56 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: DaleH Subject: [PDF] Launching WebLink from CD Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ When I open a PDF from a Windows CD and click on a Web-linked item, I am told that there is no space on the drive for downloading the page. This makes sense since the CD is locked, and I can get around it by right clicking the item and telling the computer to Open Weblink in Browser. However, I am concerned about an inexperienced user encountering this message and getting discouraged. Is there a way to prepare the weblink ahead of time to automatically open the Browser the way it does on a Mac? Dale H. ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Jan-2000 4:09:07-GMT,2466;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA01887 for ; Fri, 31 Dec 1999 21:09:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA05750; Fri, 31 Dec 1999 21:51:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 31 Dec 1999 21:42:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA05112; Fri, 31 Dec 1999 21:42:08 -0600 Message-ID: <386D77BE.2BF2BE16@nycap.rr.com> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 22:42:52 -0500 From: David Doonan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf list Subject: [PDF] potential security flaw in webbuy? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This may be nothing but, I downloaded a ebook recently from the adobe site. When the .rmf key file appeared, I decided to take a look at it in BBEdit. Much to my surprise, the .rmf is a text only file which contains urls for hosting the pdf and keyfiles, passwords and other information. Could this type of information be used to hack into ebook servers? Or could it be used to change or/disable the security settings allowing one to view the downloaded ebook on other machines? I'm not a hacker, but this looks like it could cause trouble. david -- David Doonan ddoonan1@nycap.rr.com david_doonan@wordman.com http://www.MohillDesign.com http://home.nycap.rr.com/dadoonans Greenwich, New York . . . . . . the best small town in the world! ___________ * NOW SHOWING @ http://www.PDFzone.com/ * ____________ Contributing Writer: AcroForm Advisor Kas Thomas offers tips on improving the speed of your PDF JavaScript. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------