1-Mar-1998 15:23:45-GMT,2671;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA00742 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 08:23:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA06071; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 08:53:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 1 Mar 1998 08:42:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05793; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 08:42:38 -0600 Message-ID: <018101bd4520$ad69bd20$3364f482@ulf> From: "Ulf Andersson" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Document Management Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 15:34:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Yes I have made a large system that manage the original documents and produce them to PDF. Both as singels documents and merged collections (books) containing Frontpage TOC and Backpage. In order to do this you need a production software that can handle OLE automation. This is because you need to control the documents from a managing software like VB or MS Access. The only softwares that I know about that can be controlled is Corel Ventura or MS Word. Regards Ulf -----Original Message----- From: Marc.MEDJAD@st.com To: PDF-L@emrg.com Date: den 26 februari 1998 17:11 Subject: [PDF] Document Management > > I would like to setup a document management system > which would deliver PDF files from different sources > of documents (FrameMaker, Quark,..) > > Does anybody have some experience in this area > and succeded in implementing such a system in his company? > What are the best tools ? > > Marc Medjad > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Mar-1998 15:23:56-GMT,1795;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA00751 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 08:23:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA06070; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 08:53:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 1 Mar 1998 08:44:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05854; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 08:44:32 -0600 Message-ID: <34F878B1.7486@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 20:50:57 +0000 From: Cynthia Rudy/DolphinTrips Organization: C Graphics X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-SBMH (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Concatenating input for distiller. References: <199803010109.UAA23749@nber.nber.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Daniel: Have you tried the Run file. It allows you to list several files in one document and distill them into one file. It also does not replicate fonts, I.E. if you put two PDF's together and use Avante Garde it is in the file two times, with the Run file duplicates are made into one. I have used this a lot so let me know if you need more help. Not where it is located but you can do a find on run. Hope this helps. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Mar-1998 13:29:02-GMT,2485;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA26455 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 06:29:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA09160; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 07:04:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Mar 1998 07:03:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA09101; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 07:03:48 -0600 Message-ID: <34FAAE0B.41C6@tweddle.com> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 08:03:07 -0500 From: Steve Moldenhauer Organization: Tweddle Litho X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; U; AIX 2) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Concatenating input for distiller. References: <199803010109.UAA23749@nber.nber.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I haven't tried it, but you may need to cat the files BEFORE distilling ie: cat file1.ps file2.ps > files_all.ps | distiller Daniel Feenberg wrote: > > There is an example: > > cat file.ps | distiller >file.pdf > > in the Acrobat Online User Guide at page 57. I thought 'cat is for > file concatenation, so...' I tried: > > cat file1.ps file2.ps | distiller >file3.pdf > > but it ignored one of the files. Is there a command line way > to concatenate two postscript files into one PDF? I really > need something that works from the command line, as I have > a lot of documents and no clerical help. > > Daniel Feenberg > National Bureau of Economic Research > feenberg@nber.org > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- Steve Moldenhauer Production Programmer - Tweddle Litho Company email: smoldenh@tweddle.com Phone: (810) 307-3700 ext.136 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Mar-1998 13:29:02-GMT,1900;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA26454 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 06:29:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA08729; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 06:53:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Mar 1998 06:51:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA08613; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 06:51:18 -0600 Message-Id: <199803021249.MAA06457@chime.ucl.ac.uk> From: "Mr. Matthew Darlison" Organization: UCL Medical School Dept. of Primary Care To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 12:48:14 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] Security on PDF batched files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, I've cracked turning an entire directory of Word documents into both PDF and RTF, but I need to put security on the PDF files to prevent editing. Is there any way to batch this process under Win 95...? Thanks in advance for any help! Yours, Matthew Darlison -- "Mr. Matthew Darlison BA MA" Research Fellow, Dept. of Primary Care and Population Sciences, UCL Based at CHIME - the Centre for Health Informatics and Multiprofessional Education APoGI - Accessible Publishing of Genetic Information Project on the Web at http://www.chime.ucl.ac.uk/APoGI/ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Mar-1998 16:27:28-GMT,3513;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00661 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 09:27:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA16416; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:05:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Mar 1998 09:59:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16089; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 09:59:12 -0600 Message-Id: <199803021559.HAA28396@mh1.cts.com> X-Sender: larryd@sd.cts.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 08:01:19 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: larry Whitaker Subject: Re: [PDF] Use steamline: was PDF files from magazines. In-Reply-To: <34F7F8ED.24C22F55@fidnet.com> References: <199802280028.LAA01237@mail.mel.aone.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA16086 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Bryan, Its the scanner. (and the scanner software you're using.) Magazine pages can be relatively easily scanned to TIFF images that can be imported to decent PDF--and retain the graphical content while recognizing the text. Admittedly the scanner and software required is relatively sophisticated and somewhat more expensive than "home" equipment. If interested, contact me directly and I will send you some TIFF images that demonstrate this. At 05:45 AM 2/28/98 -0600, you wrote: > >You could try using a program like Streamline or something similar to >clean the page up, separate touching areas so the ocr can see them >separate.. > >Bryan Gracey wrote: >> >> I have a problem when trying to OCR magazine pages after scanning. Some of >> the text >> becomes part of the graphic image captured and cannot be OCR or corrected. >> How does one work around this problem ? Is there an easy way to seperate the >> graphic >> and the text and then stitch hem back together. >> Any suggestion would be welcome. >> >> Bryan Gracey. >> >> +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >> + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >> +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >-- >mueller@fidnet.com >http://whdesign.com >WebHeadBookShop - WebTV Talk >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > Larry Whitaker, President, Del Mar Data, Inc. 215 La Barranca Dr. Solana Beach, CA 92075 voice 619.259.7911 fax 619.259.1053 email: larry@delmardata.com Web site: http://www.delmardata.com FTP site: ftp.delmardata.com  /incoming or /pub +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Mar-1998 16:40:55-GMT,2492;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01017 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 09:40:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA17728; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:31:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:30:05 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17615; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:29:59 -0600 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <882565BB.005A7B58.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 08:29:47 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Security on PDF batched files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 If they're all in the same directory folder can't you highlight them, right-click and select properties, and under attributes select read-only? SG m.darlison@chime.ucl.ac.uk on 03/02/98 04:48:14 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] Security on PDF batched files Hi, I've cracked turning an entire directory of Word documents into both PDF and RTF, but I need to put security on the PDF files to prevent editing. Is there any way to batch this process under Win 95...? Thanks in advance for any help! Yours, Matthew Darlison -- "Mr. Matthew Darlison BA MA" Research Fellow, Dept. of Primary Care and Population Sciences, UCL Based at CHIME - the Centre for Health Informatics and Multiprofessional Education APoGI - Accessible Publishing of Genetic Information Project on the Web at http://www.chime.ucl.ac.uk/APoGI/ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Mar-1998 16:41:24-GMT,1582;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01046 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 09:41:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA17955; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:34:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:33:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17831; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:33:03 -0600 Message-ID: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA270C4E69@MARS> From: "Schiff, Kenny" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Active Pages and Using Doc Properties Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:28:36 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I want to serve out PDF docs on our Extranet, and am looking for an automated way of display a list of PDF docs held in a folder, and their document properties. Users could then click on the doc they want. We're using MS IIS, so it would nice if there was an ASP to do this. Anyone have any ideas? +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Mar-1998 17:36:15-GMT,3147;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02681 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:36:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA19107; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:58:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:57:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19063; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:57:09 -0600 Message-ID: <007701bcf326$93bb3e40$0da30118@cx866816-a.alsv1.occa.home.com> From: "Stephen M. Aylor" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Active Pages and Using Doc Properties Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 23:01:06 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 If you need a FREE solution, this may not help, but $495 gets you into the deal. Runs on a win95 machine or NT server/wkstn. Its called cold fusion from allaire. Its an app server that comes with the verity indexing search engine. Adobe has a piece of software that allows you to index PDF's using verity, and/or you could get the MS Index server that comes with IIS4.0 and use the other Adobe plugin to allow IIS/MS Index Server to serve up lists of PDF's in the browser "search engine style". Cold Fusion is kinda nice too, as it has a html like tag language structure with pre-built code to do directory reads and return files and filenames in a java applet that looks just like Windows Explorer expandable tree. (Its a tree control) Cold Fusion can co-exist with ASP also.....heck you may convet all your asp over to CF, its a hellovalot easier to code. All the best, Steve -----Original Message----- From: Schiff, Kenny To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Date: Monday, March 02, 1998 8:40 AM Subject: [PDF] Active Pages and Using Doc Properties > >I want to serve out PDF docs on our Extranet, and am looking for an >automated way of display a list of PDF docs held in a folder, and their >document properties. Users could then click on the doc they want. We're >using MS IIS, so it would nice if there was an ASP to do this. > >Anyone have any ideas? >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Mar-1998 17:42:39-GMT,2496;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02875 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:42:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA20536; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 11:23:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Mar 1998 11:21:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA20415; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 11:21:53 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980302172053.0092eedc@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 09:20:53 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Active Pages and Using Doc Properties Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 There's an IFilter available at http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/acwin.htm that might do the job. I haven't tested it yet, and at least one other person on this list [ A.T.Brown@derby.ac.uk ] recently reported being unable to use the 1.1 beta version, but "your mileage may vary". Another approach might be to start with a Perl script such as Fabrizio Pivari's "IndexMaker 5.0" and modify it to suit your specific needs; see: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/3469 Good luck. Tom Thiersch At 10:28 AM 3/2/98 -0600, you wrote: > >I want to serve out PDF docs on our Extranet, and am looking for an >automated way of display a list of PDF docs held in a folder, and their >document properties. Users could then click on the doc they want. We're >using MS IIS, so it would nice if there was an ASP to do this. > >Anyone have any ideas? >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Mar-1998 18:26:16-GMT,5896;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04192 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 11:26:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA22828; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 12:05:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Mar 1998 12:04:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22768; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 12:04:28 -0600 X-Sender: osa\fharri\fharris@mail.osa.org Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 13:20:05 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: fharri@osa.org (Frank Harris) Subject: RE: [PDF] Problem zipping PDF files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 In the last year we have zipped about 2500 files into about 50 archives, and averaged 8% to 16% savings. Each archive is 10MB to 30 MB. I think the largest uncompressed PDF file was 7MB, in the last year. We have switched to tar now, because the space savings are less important than the time savings, and tar is faster. The main point is to group files for transfer. Thanks for all of the helpful comments. >> Frank : >> >We have had alot of experince zipping PDF files . You should see about >a 2 - 4% savings ins zipping an optimized PDF File. We only zip PDF >files when we are trying to send a collection of pdf files together.. >We have also found that ocassionally the Zipping process can cause >occasional corruption of the PDF file. We too found that WinZip to be >better than the older version of ZIP. (Although we use version WinZip >Vers6.1 I believe). > >> ---------- >> From: sgililland@nexstar.com[SMTP:sgililland@nexstar.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 1998 1:20 PM >> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> Subject: Re: [PDF] Problem zipping PDF files >> >> >> >> I've had problems with zipped files and couldn't figure it out - so I >> just >> quit "zipping" them. They're pretty well compressed anyway and I >> didn't >> see that zipping them decreased the file size enough to make it worth >> my >> time to figure out how/what I was doing wrong! It will be interesting >> to >> see if there is a way to do this. >> >> SG >> >> >> >> >> fharri@osa.org on 02/24/98 09:19:33 AM >> >> Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> >> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> cc: cmayfi@osa.org (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) >> Subject: [PDF] Problem zipping PDF files >> >> >> >> >> >> Dear PDF-ers, >> >> We have a problem PK-zipping PDF files, to send to libraries to place >> on >> their remote servers. We have tried several programs, several OS-s, >> and >> several machines, but we always get the same 2 files shortened by 1 >> byte, >> and another file shourtened by about 2Kbytes. When the files are >> unzipped, >> there is a CRC error. They do open in Reader 3.0, but in each case >> the >> last figure is damaged. >> >> Each file was archived with about 35 other files. 2 were in the same >> archive, the one that lost 2kbytes, in another archive. >> >> The original files are fine. No Acrobat errors. >> >> I'm at my wits end. Is there an obscure bug in PKZip code that >> damages a >> small fraction of PDF files? We have zipped and shipped 50 archives >> in the >> past year, before seeing this problem. >> >> Programs used to zip: >> WinZip (Win 95) >> Zipit (Mac) >> >> Programs used to unzip (all report the same errors). >> WinZip (Win 95) >> Zipit (Mac) >> Stuffit (Mac) >> UnZip >> Unix unzipping software. >> >> >> Has anyone seen this before? I'll send a sample file (190 KB) if you >> want >> to experiment. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> >> -- >> Frank E. Harris fharri@osa.org >> Optical Society of America fharris@aip.org >> 2010 Massachusetts AVE NW Phone - 202-416-1904 >> Washington, DC 20036-1023 http://www.osa.org >> ------------------------- >> "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, >> but in practice, there is." >> >> >> +--------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---+ >> + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists >> + >> + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >> +--------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---+ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +--------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---+ >> + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists >> + >> + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >> +--------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---+ >> >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- Frank E. Harris fharri@osa.org Optical Society of America fharris@aip.org 2010 Massachusetts AVE NW Phone - 202-416-1904 Washington, DC 20036-1023 http://www.osa.org ------------------------- "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is." +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Mar-1998 21:36:48-GMT,2325;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09779 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 14:36:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA32009; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 15:03:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Mar 1998 15:01:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA31796; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 15:01:29 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 14:57:28 -0600 From: Paul Schulte To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Recognizing Interleaf dashes in PDF - Reply Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Jon, How were the dashes created in Interleaf to begin with? Simply typed as ascii "--"? Or through some Interleaf shortcuts? They may then properly map to the appropriate keystroke on the keyboard. (And don't forget your em and en dashes.) Paul K. Schulte Medtronic, Inc. Configuration Assurance Phone #: 612/514-8349 Fax #: 612/514-8674 Email: paul.k.schulte@medtronic.com >>> Jon Downing 02/27 2:59 pm >>> We are creating PDF files from Interleaf-generated Postscript using Distiller. The dashes found in the PDF version of our documents show up on-screen and in hardcopy, but cannot be searched for or indexed. Are there any work-arounds or patches available to get these dashes to come through properly? Thanks in advance, Jon Downing Technical Publications Northwest Airlines, Inc. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Mar-1998 21:36:51-GMT,7089;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09787 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 14:36:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA32013; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 15:03:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Mar 1998 15:02:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA31916; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 15:02:48 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD45DB.C5555460@sfdn12-170.sf.compuserve.com> From: Karl Schmidtmann To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Security on PDF batched files Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 13:04:20 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD45DB.C587AF00" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD45DB.C587AF00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Matthew: Ambia's Compose has a batch security tool which will allow you to apply = security settings to collections of documents. Compose is a plug-in to = Acrobat Exchange 3.X for Windows 95 or NT. More information, including = evaluation versions of the software and copies of the User's Guide, can = be found on our Web site (www.ambia.com). Or feel free to drop me a line = directly. Karl Schmidtmann Ambia kschmidt@ambia.com 707-829-7500 ---------- From: Mr. Matthew Darlison[SMTP:m.darlison@chime.ucl.ac.uk] Sent: Monday, March 02, 1998 4:48 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Security on PDF batched files Hi, I've cracked turning an entire directory of Word documents into both=20 PDF and RTF, but I need to put security on the PDF files to prevent=20 editing. Is there any way to batch this process under Win 95...? Thanks in advance for any help! 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+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Mar-1998 23:01:37-GMT,1687;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12255 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:01:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA03752; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:34:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:33:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA03656; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:33:22 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Czajka, Mark" To: "'PDF List'" Subject: [PDF] web links to files on local CD Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:27:45 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Is there a syntax other than file://... to open html files from a PDF file on a local CD-ROM? I can't figure out a way to do this without the drive letter being included in the URL. > ________The One-Off CD Shops - Washington, DC > _________________4590 Graphics Drive > _______________White Plains, MD 20695 > __________(301) 870-0480 or (800) 678-8760 > ________Internet: http://www.oneoffcd.ags.com > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Mar-1998 23:50:29-GMT,1472;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA13685 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:50:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA05817; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:21:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:20:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA05750; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:20:36 -0600 Message-ID: <000c01bd463a$aaa92060$0900a8c0@RANDALL> From: "Quickdraw" To: Subject: [PDF] DWG to PDF Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:24:00 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Has anyone succesfully created a pdf from an AutoCAD drawing that has fonts embedded? Randy Chamzuk +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 2-Mar-1998 23:54:58-GMT,1777;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA13785 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:54:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA06906; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:46:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:45:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA06828; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:44:59 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD4635.267BCAE0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] web links to files on local CD Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 23:15:25 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 If the links are within a group of PDF files, don't use web links, or OPEN file links. Use the same GO TO VIEW link you would use to link between pages in a single PDF file. Aandi On Monday, 2 March, 1998 22:28, Czajka, Mark [SMTP:mczajka@ags.com] wrote: > > Is there a syntax other than file://... to open html files from a PDF > file on a local CD-ROM? I can't figure out a way to do this without the > drive letter being included in the URL. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Mar-1998 0:37:32-GMT,1714;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA14888 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:37:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA07853; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:07:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:06:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA07779; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:06:51 -0600 From: Jose_Lemus@capgroup.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:02:17 -0800 Message-ID: <0009ED71.3177@CAPGROUP.COM> Subject: [PDF] Distiller not keeping URL links To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, When I type a URL link in Word or some other application, it automatically recognizes that it's a URL and when I click on it it launches my browser. But when I distill it using Distiller 3.01, those links come across dead. Nothing happens when I click on it. It's blue and everything but it's not a link. Is there anything that can be set so that Distiller automatically converts/keeps these links? Thanks in advance, Jose Lemus jol@capgroup.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Mar-1998 1:24:57-GMT,2769;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA15991 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:24:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA09184; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:43:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:42:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA09126; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:42:38 -0600 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:46:46 -0600 To: "'PDF Discussion Group'" From: John Noe Subject: [PDF] new to list... do i get a freebie question? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Greetings, I have just subscribed to this list hoping to find answers to some of the PDF related problems I've been running into lately. My name is John Noe, and I am Information Services manager for VidCAD, Inc. So here's the deal. :) I create a CD-ROM set, which is a collection of technical "spec-sheets." Manufacturers send me their stuff in many different ways... Sometimes I use web pages to create the PDF, sometimes word processing docs, and even occasionally scan hardcopy files to TIFF and use Capture. Everything is pretty much smooth and easy. text gets put into PDF, graphics into JPG, and Cad drawings get converted to WMF. ** However! ** My newest enemy is PostScript and EPS. Sometimes the EPS is a page of text, sometimes its a graphic... It looks sorta like a CAD drawing or vector (is that the right term?) image, so should I try and turn this into a WMF? I've installed shareware postscript viewers (Ghostscript), I've looked at them under Paint Shop Pro, I've put them through the Adobe Distiller and even the PDF Writer... I've tried to work with them under Quick View... I even installed Adobe Illustrator onto my machine, but it wasn't much help. The results are always rather disappointing and ugly... In short, if anyone can tell me what to do with these .ps and .eps files (besides sending them back to the people and asking for a different format) I would be forever grateful. Really. ;) Looking forward to having my inbox clogged with listserv email, - John +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Mar-1998 4:05:01-GMT,1799;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA19429 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 21:04:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA15557; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 21:30:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Mar 1998 21:26:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA15311; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 21:26:19 -0600 Message-ID: <34FA7CB6.5E6@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 09:32:43 +0000 From: Cynthia Rudy/DolphinTrips Organization: C Graphics X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-SBMH (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller not keeping URL links References: <0009ED71.3177@CAPGROUP.COM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dear Jose: Are you using Word 97? Word 97 supports links from Word when converted to PDF. I am not sure about weblinks however. There are only a few programs that maintain their links which are PageMaker, FrameMaker (both owned by Adobe) and now Word 97. There are filters for other programs such as Interleaf to help maintain the links. There may also be an add on filter for each specific program you are using to make the links work. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Mar-1998 13:48:33-GMT,3252;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA01606 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 06:48:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA31888; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 07:34:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 07:32:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA31722; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 07:32:36 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Czajka, Mark" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: FW: [PDF] web links to files on local CD Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:27:05 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 It looks like the "file open" link works. I just ran a test. > ---------- > From: Czajka, Mark > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 8:11 AM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: RE: [PDF] web links to files on local CD > > > I don't think the question was understod - I'm linking from a PDF to a > local HTML file on a CD-ROM. The only way to do this is via a web link > URL: ie. (file://e|/file.htm) is a URL to link to an HTML file in the > root directory of E: on a PC system. If I have a PDF on a CD-ROM, is > there a way to link to an HTML file in the same directory without > specifying the drive letter in the URL? > > > ---------- > > From: Aandi Inston > > Sent: Monday, March 02, 1998 6:15 PM > > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > > Subject: RE: [PDF] web links to files on local CD > > > > > > If the links are within a group of PDF files, don't use web links, > or > > OPEN file links. > > Use the same GO TO VIEW link you would use to link between pages in > a > > single PDF file. > > > > Aandi > > > > On Monday, 2 March, 1998 22:28, Czajka, Mark [SMTP:mczajka@ags.com] > > wrote: > > > > > > Is there a syntax other than file://... to open html files from a > > PDF > > > file on a local CD-ROM? I can't figure out a way to do this > without > > the > > > drive letter being included in the URL. > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---+ > > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > > + > > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---+ > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Mar-1998 13:48:33-GMT,2633;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA01605 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 06:48:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA31140; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 07:21:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 07:16:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA30925; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 07:16:35 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Czajka, Mark" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] web links to files on local CD Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:11:01 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I don't think the question was understod - I'm linking from a PDF to a local HTML file on a CD-ROM. The only way to do this is via a web link URL: ie. (file://e|/file.htm) is a URL to link to an HTML file in the root directory of E: on a PC system. If I have a PDF on a CD-ROM, is there a way to link to an HTML file in the same directory without specifying the drive letter in the URL? > ---------- > From: Aandi Inston > Sent: Monday, March 02, 1998 6:15 PM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: RE: [PDF] web links to files on local CD > > > If the links are within a group of PDF files, don't use web links, or > OPEN file links. > Use the same GO TO VIEW link you would use to link between pages in a > single PDF file. > > Aandi > > On Monday, 2 March, 1998 22:28, Czajka, Mark [SMTP:mczajka@ags.com] > wrote: > > > > Is there a syntax other than file://... to open html files from a > PDF > > file on a local CD-ROM? I can't figure out a way to do this without > the > > drive letter being included in the URL. > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Mar-1998 13:52:04-GMT,6605;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA01689 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 06:52:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA32317; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 07:44:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 07:42:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA32231; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 07:42:29 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD4680.6513DA40@S14194> From: Jon Downing To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Recognizing Interleaf dashes in PDF - Reply Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:43:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD4680.6519F4C0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD4680.6519F4C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The dashes were created via the keyboard. However, it does seem to have something to do with em and en dashes. I wonder if there is a way to pipe the Postscript and search/replace the dashes before running through Distiller? ---------- From: Paul Schulte Sent: Monday, March 02, 1998 3:57 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Recognizing Interleaf dashes in PDF - Reply Jon, How were the dashes created in Interleaf to begin with? Simply typed as ascii "--"? Or through some Interleaf shortcuts? They may then properly map to the appropriate keystroke on the keyboard. (And don't forget your em and en dashes.) Paul K. Schulte Medtronic, Inc. Configuration Assurance Phone #: 612/514-8349 Fax #: 612/514-8674 Email: paul.k.schulte@medtronic.com >>> Jon Downing 02/27 2:59 pm >>> We are creating PDF files from Interleaf-generated Postscript using Distiller. The dashes found in the PDF version of our documents show up on-screen and in hardcopy, but cannot be searched for or indexed. Are there any work-arounds or patches available to get these dashes to come through properly? 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Tue, 3 Mar 1998 06:55:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA32522; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 07:49:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 07:46:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA32397; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 07:46:17 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Dyer, Shawn" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] web links to files on local CD Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 07:46:16 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am not a PDF master, but if it works like normal URLs, then you should be able to say file://\file.htm (on a PC system. I'm not sure how you would specify a relative link in the root here with forward slash notation), or just file://file.htm if file.htm is in the same directory as the currently open file. > -----Original Message----- > From: Czajka, Mark [SMTP:mczajka@ags.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 7:11 AM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: RE: [PDF] web links to files on local CD > > > I don't think the question was understod - I'm linking from a PDF to a > local HTML file on a CD-ROM. The only way to do this is via a web link > URL: ie. (file://e|/file.htm) is a URL to link to an HTML file in the > root directory of E: on a PC system. If I have a PDF on a CD-ROM, is > there a way to link to an HTML file in the same directory without > specifying the drive letter in the URL? > > > ---------- > > From: Aandi Inston > > Sent: Monday, March 02, 1998 6:15 PM > > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > > Subject: RE: [PDF] web links to files on local CD > > > > > > If the links are within a group of PDF files, don't use web links, or > > OPEN file links. > > Use the same GO TO VIEW link you would use to link between pages in a > > single PDF file. > > > > Aandi > > > > On Monday, 2 March, 1998 22:28, Czajka, Mark [SMTP:mczajka@ags.com] > > wrote: > > > > > > Is there a syntax other than file://... to open html files from a > > PDF > > > file on a local CD-ROM? I can't figure out a way to do this without > > the > > > drive letter being included in the URL. > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Mar-1998 14:45:26-GMT,3543;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA02869 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 07:45:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA00993; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:19:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:17:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA00915; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:17:27 -0600 Message-ID: From: Judy Castagna To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" , "'john@vidcad.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] new to list... do i get a freebie question? Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:15:16 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, Any good answers on the PostScript to PDF problem? I'm new to the list and I'd be interested too. Can you forward or post any pointers? Thanks, Judy Castagna judy.castagna@apha.org >---------- >From: John Noe >Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 1998 12:46 AM >To: 'PDF Discussion Group' >Subject: [PDF] new to list... do i get a freebie question? > > >Greetings, > I have just subscribed to this list hoping to find answers to some >of the >PDF related problems I've been running into lately. My name is John Noe, >and I am Information Services manager for VidCAD, Inc. > >So here's the deal. :) > >I create a CD-ROM set, which is a collection of technical "spec-sheets." >Manufacturers send me their stuff in many different ways... >Sometimes I use web pages to create the PDF, sometimes word processing >docs, >and even occasionally scan hardcopy files to TIFF and use Capture. >Everything is pretty much smooth and easy. >text gets put into PDF, graphics into JPG, and Cad drawings get converted >to WMF. >** However! ** > >My newest enemy is PostScript and EPS. >Sometimes the EPS is a page of text, sometimes its a graphic... >It looks sorta like a CAD drawing or vector (is that the right term?) >image, >so should I try and turn this into a WMF? >I've installed shareware postscript viewers (Ghostscript), >I've looked at them under Paint Shop Pro, I've put them through the Adobe >Distiller >and even the PDF Writer... I've tried to work with them under Quick View... >I even installed Adobe Illustrator onto my machine, but it wasn't much >help. >The results are always rather disappointing and ugly... > >In short, if anyone can tell me what to do with these .ps and .eps files >(besides sending them back to the people and asking for a different format) >I would be forever grateful. Really. ;) > >Looking forward to having my inbox clogged with listserv email, > >- John > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Mar-1998 14:48:03-GMT,2441;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA02980 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 07:48:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA01628; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:28:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:26:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA01456; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:26:13 -0600 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:26:28 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Raja Indra Putra (Ripi)" Subject: [PDF] Problem printing from Acrobat Reader 3.01 for Windows 95 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Problem : A logotype consisting of a reverse type/font (white) on a solid rectangle background (green) has the type/font missing when the PDF file is printed using Win 95, resulting in a solid rectangle only. The logotype appears okay on screen though. I used a HP LaserJet. I used PageMaker 5.0 on the Mac. Tried both PDF Writer and Distiller. Same results. Using an EPS of the logotype from FreeHand gave the same problem. However, the files work fine on a Mac. This seems to be a common problem as many PDF documents on the internet have the company logotype or eps art represented as a solid black or grey when it is printed although they look okay on screen. I intend to start distributing PDF files on the intranet/internet and having the logotype blanked-out when printed from a PC is definitely unacceptable. Thanks in advance for any suggestions/advice/work-arounds. P.S. Is this some problem about HP printers and/or PCs not being able to handle postscript/eps well? Raja Indra Putra (Ripi) Innosabah Research Sdn Bhd www.innosabah.com.my e-mail :ripi@innosabah.com.my Tel (KL Office) : (6) 03-254-7799 (ext 29) Tel (KK Office) : (6) 088-234-099 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Mar-1998 14:56:42-GMT,1941;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03165 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 07:56:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA02568; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:45:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:44:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA02431; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:44:29 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD46B2.D26B1CC0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] new to list... do i get a freebie question? Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:44:04 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Tuesday, 3 March, 1998 14:15, Judy Castagna [SMTP:judy.castagna@apha.org] wrote: > Any good answers on the PostScript to PDF problem? I'm new to the list > and I'd be interested too. Can you forward or post any pointers? Thanks, I don't understand why the mystery. Put the PostScript through Distiller - that's what it's for. It should give good results, but you should check whether Distiller's job options suit your needs. In the few cases where it gives bad results, there may be resolutions, but you will need to be very specific about the problem, origin of PostScript files, etc. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Mar-1998 14:59:42-GMT,3742;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03281 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 07:59:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA03016; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:52:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:51:47 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA02913; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:51:44 -0600 Message-ID: <34FC0D68.C63C73D8@globalreach.net> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 09:02:20 -0500 From: Scottie Scott Organization: Graphics 2000 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; U; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] new to list... do i get a freebie question? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hey John, Welcome to the list. I use Adobe PageMaker for nearly all of my pdf constructions. I use eps graphics form Illustrator and Photoshop. I've never had a problem with placing eps graphics into PageMaker. As for the text, I would simple copy it from your .ps or .eps doc and paste it into PageMaker. After everything is in layed out in PageMaker you would export as .pdf. It works great. Scottie John Noe wrote: > Greetings, > I have just subscribed to this list hoping to find answers to some > of the > PDF related problems I've been running into lately. My name is John Noe, > and I am Information Services manager for VidCAD, Inc. > > So here's the deal. :) > > I create a CD-ROM set, which is a collection of technical "spec-sheets." > Manufacturers send me their stuff in many different ways... > Sometimes I use web pages to create the PDF, sometimes word processing > docs, > and even occasionally scan hardcopy files to TIFF and use Capture. > Everything is pretty much smooth and easy. > text gets put into PDF, graphics into JPG, and Cad drawings get converted > to WMF. > ** However! ** > > My newest enemy is PostScript and EPS. > Sometimes the EPS is a page of text, sometimes its a graphic... > It looks sorta like a CAD drawing or vector (is that the right term?) > image, > so should I try and turn this into a WMF? > I've installed shareware postscript viewers (Ghostscript), > I've looked at them under Paint Shop Pro, I've put them through the Adobe > Distiller > and even the PDF Writer... I've tried to work with them under Quick View... > I even installed Adobe Illustrator onto my machine, but it wasn't much > help. > The results are always rather disappointing and ugly... > > In short, if anyone can tell me what to do with these .ps and .eps files > (besides sending them back to the people and asking for a different format) > I would be forever grateful. Really. ;) > > Looking forward to having my inbox clogged with listserv email, > > - John > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Mar-1998 15:24:00-GMT,2398;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA03921 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:23:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA03629; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:05:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:03:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03531; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:03:58 -0600 Message-ID: <34FC45F6.47268821@infodata.com> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 10:03:34 -0800 From: viator@infodata.com (Viator, Lora) Organization: Infodata Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Recognizing Interleaf dashes in PDF References: <01BD4398.B881DB90@S14194> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Jon Beware of Interleaf created PS files. The fonts Interleaf uses are not Adobe PS Type 1 and can cause problems for you. In order to get all of your fonts to come through perfectly you might try creating a printerleaf file, then use the free pl2ps script to create a PS file. Then distill that. Lora Viator Jon Downing wrote: > We are creating PDF files from Interleaf-generated Postscript using Distiller. > The dashes found in the PDF version of our documents show up on-screen > and in hardcopy, but cannot be searched for or indexed. Are there any work-arounds > or patches available to get these dashes to come through properly? > > Thanks in advance, > > Jon Downing > Technical Publications > Northwest Airlines, Inc. > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Mar-1998 15:24:48-GMT,3140;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA03942 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:24:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA03265; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:58:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:57:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA03219; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:57:37 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 09:57:48 -0500 From: "trevor joseph" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Problem printing from Acrobat Reader 3.01 for Windows 95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA03215 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 It seems that some HP Laserjets(or their drivers) have a bit of a problem with white text. One solution is to convert the text to curves prior to printing. Hope this helps Trevor Joseph >>> "Raja Indra Putra (Ripi)" 03/03 9:26 AM >>> Problem : A logotype consisting of a reverse type/font (white) on a solid rectangle background (green) has the type/font missing when the PDF file is printed using Win 95, resulting in a solid rectangle only. The logotype appears okay on screen though. I used a HP LaserJet. I used PageMaker 5.0 on the Mac. Tried both PDF Writer and Distiller. Same results. Using an EPS of the logotype from FreeHand gave the same problem. However, the files work fine on a Mac. This seems to be a common problem as many PDF documents on the internet have the company logotype or eps art represented as a solid black or grey when it is printed although they look okay on screen. I intend to start distributing PDF files on the intranet/internet and having the logotype blanked-out when printed from a PC is definitely unacceptable. Thanks in advance for any suggestions/advice/work-arounds. P.S. Is this some problem about HP printers and/or PCs not being able to handle postscript/eps well? Raja Indra Putra (Ripi) Innosabah Research Sdn Bhd www.innosabah.com.my e-mail :ripi@innosabah.com.my Tel (KL Office) : (6) 03-254-7799 (ext 29) Tel (KK Office) : (6) 088-234-099 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Mar-1998 15:26:15-GMT,2849;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA03964 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:26:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA03966; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:13:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:12:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03919; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:12:23 -0600 Message-ID: <34FC1CD4.5422@casact.org> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 10:08:04 -0500 From: Mike Boa Organization: Casualty Actuarial Society X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-GZone (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] new to list... do i get a freebie question? References: <01BD46B2.D26B1CC0.quite@dial.pipex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Oh, I've encountered plenty of mystery in this process. Here's one: I was provided with a 50 page .ps file heavy in complex math symbols and formulas. I don't have any other information about the .ps file. I then ran the file through Distiller to create the PDF. All the math symbols and formulas convert fine. The thinng that does not convert are the commas in the 13 page Appendix. The commas are converted to a funny symbol that looks like a T. I've ended up scanning and capturing the Appendix and replacing the pages in the PDF. But now I've ended up with a 1.2 mb doc instead of a 500 kb doc that will take a lot longer to download from our web site. Can anyone suggest a solution or a better work-around? Thanks, Mike Boa Communications and Research Coordinator Casualty Actuarial Society http://www.casact.org Aandi Inston wrote: > > On Tuesday, 3 March, 1998 14:15, Judy Castagna [SMTP:judy.castagna@apha.org] wrote: > > > Any good answers on the PostScript to PDF problem? I'm new to the list > > and I'd be interested too. Can you forward or post any pointers? Thanks, > > I don't understand why the mystery. Put the PostScript through Distiller - that's > what it's for. It should give good results, but you should check whether > Distiller's job options suit your needs. > > In the few cases where it gives bad results, there may be resolutions, but you will > need to be very specific about the problem, origin of PostScript files, etc. > > Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Mar-1998 15:30:00-GMT,2078;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA04096 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:29:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA04145; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:16:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:16:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04069; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:16:06 -0600 Message-ID: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA270C4E88@MARS> From: "Schiff, Kenny" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "'iincorp@home.com'" Subject: RE: Re: [PDF] Active Pages and Using Doc Properties Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:11:46 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 The indexing piece of it is only a piece of what I'm trying to achieve. I want to list the files too, by using the field from the Acrobat Document properties. Is there anyway automated way to to do that? > If you need a FREE solution, this may not help, but $495 gets you > into the deal. Runs on a win95 machine or NT server/wkstn. Its > called cold fusion from allaire. Its an app server that comes with > the verity indexing search engine. Adobe has a piece of > software that allows you to index PDF's usingverity, and/or you > could get the MS Index server that comes with IIS4.0 anduse the > other Adobe plugin to allow IIS/MS Index Server to serve up lists > ofPDF's in the browser "search engine style". +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Mar-1998 15:31:24-GMT,2812;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA04114 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:31:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA03471; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:02:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:01:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03407; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:01:43 -0600 Message-ID: From: Judy Castagna To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] font problems and edits etc Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:59:27 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 When I take a PageMaker 6.5 document and distill it into PDF and then send it by email it splits into many messages adn cannot be viewed. I want to use someTrueType fonts in the final image setting without messing up the tracking or reflowing pages. I haven't been able to create a PDF file without making the PageMaker file PostScript first, but will that eliminate the possiblity of edits later? Any suggestions? judy.castagna@apha.org >---------- >From: Aandi Inston >Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 1998 2:44 PM >To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' >Subject: RE: [PDF] new to list... do i get a freebie question? > > >On Tuesday, 3 March, 1998 14:15, Judy Castagna [SMTP:judy.castagna@apha.org] >wrote: > >> Any good answers on the PostScript to PDF problem? I'm new to the list >> and I'd be interested too. Can you forward or post any pointers? Thanks, > >I don't understand why the mystery. Put the PostScript through Distiller - >that's >what it's for. It should give good results, but you should check whether >Distiller's job options suit your needs. > >In the few cases where it gives bad results, there may be resolutions, but >you will >need to be very specific about the problem, origin of PostScript files, etc. > >Aandi >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Mar-1998 16:16:04-GMT,2345;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA05272 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:16:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA05672; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:49:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:48:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05519; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:47:58 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 3 Mar 98 07:48 PST From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <34FC1CD4.5422@casact.org> (mboa@casact.org) Subject: Re: [PDF] new to list... do i get a freebie question? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I was provided with a 50 page .ps file heavy in complex math symbols and > formulas. I don't have any other information about the .ps file. I > then ran the file through Distiller to create the PDF. All the math > symbols and formulas convert fine. The thinng that does not convert are > the commas in the 13 page Appendix. The commas are converted to a funny > symbol that looks like a T. > ... > Can anyone suggest a solution or a better work-around? You might want to try ps2pdf, the Distiller work-alike in Aladdin Ghostscript, available via the URL below. I've been told that ps2pdf sometimes does better than Distiller on files with mixtures of built-in, Type 1, and TeX-originated fonts. ps2pdf is free, so the only cost will be your time. Please let me know if you have problems, so I can fix them. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html *Oppose bulk-mail abuse of your mailbox and newsgroups: http://spam.abuse.net* +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Mar-1998 16:50:58-GMT,2137;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06222 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:50:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA08169; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:33:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:32:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08091; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:32:40 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD46C1.4A943020.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] new to list... do i get a freebie question? Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:13:04 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Tuesday, 3 March, 1998 15:08, Mike Boa [SMTP:mboa@casact.org] wrote: > I was provided with a 50 page .ps file heavy in complex math symbols and > formulas. I don't have any other information about the .ps file. I > then ran the file through Distiller to create the PDF. All the math > symbols and formulas convert fine. The thinng that does not convert are > the commas in the 13 page Appendix. The commas are converted to a funny > symbol that looks like a T. I'd suspect the PostScript file was made with TeX, something of a mystery in itself. Some TeX implementations reuse unexpected places in a font - like putting letters in the space or tab position, and this can cause problems. If that happened here, only the creator can remedy it by using different fonts or tools. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Mar-1998 16:55:28-GMT,2676;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06290 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:55:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA07503; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:25:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:21:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07361; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:21:32 -0600 Message-ID: <34FC2E08.830B4EE0@beacon.com> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 11:21:28 -0500 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] new to list... do i get a freebie question? References: <01BD46B2.D26B1CC0.quite@dial.pipex.com> <34FC1CD4.5422@casact.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Mike Boa wrote: > > Oh, I've encountered plenty of mystery in this process. Here's one: > > I was provided with a 50 page .ps file heavy in complex math symbols and > formulas. I don't have any other information about the .ps file. I > then ran the file through Distiller to create the PDF. All the math > symbols and formulas convert fine. The thinng that does not convert are > the commas in the 13 page Appendix. The commas are converted to a funny > symbol that looks like a T. The problem may have been due to a missing font, or a strange (TrueType?) font being used. This is an issue to discuss with the person submitting the file. Regarding the original post, it is understood (by me, at least) that Distilling may seem nondeterministic in an environment where files are coming in from all sorts of sources, and not prepared according to any particular specification. But realize that, as Aandi says, without studying the problems and developing specifications for what you will accept, solutions aren't going to just jump out at you. It's true, scanning and capturing doesn't require much consistency among submissions. But then again it is a lot of hassle (read "expense") relative to distilling for a lot of reasons. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Mar-1998 16:59:01-GMT,6449;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06413 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:59:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA09169; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:50:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:49:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA09087; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:49:20 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD469A.8885F430@S14194> From: Jon Downing To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Recognizing Interleaf dashes in PDF Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:50:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD469A.888D9550" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD469A.888D9550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lora, Thanks for the tip. I was able to convert a PL to a PS using pl2ps. I then distilled the PS. Unfortunately, the dashes were still not recognized. Are there any particular switches in pl2ps that I might try? Also, any ideas on why the dashes look great on-screen, but can't be searched? Thanks. Jon Downing ---------- From: Viator, Lora Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 1:03 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Recognizing Interleaf dashes in PDF Jon Beware of Interleaf created PS files. The fonts Interleaf uses are not Adobe PS Type 1 and can cause problems for you. In order to get all of your fonts to come through perfectly you might try creating a printerleaf file, then use the free pl2ps script to create a PS file. Then distill that. Lora Viator Jon Downing wrote: > We are creating PDF files from Interleaf-generated Postscript using Distiller. > The dashes found in the PDF version of our documents show up on-screen > and in hardcopy, but cannot be searched for or indexed. 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X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Recognizing Interleaf dashes in PDF References: <01BD469A.8885F430@S14194> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Jon Downing wrote: > > Thanks for the tip. I was able to convert a PL to a PS using pl2ps. > I then distilled the PS. Unfortunately, the dashes were still not > recognized. Are there any particular switches in pl2ps that I might > try? Also, any ideas on why the dashes look great on-screen, but > can't be searched? Thanks. Are you sure that the search engine itself isn't treating the dashes as non-searchable? IOW, a perfectly-prepared PDF might exhibit the same behavior? I would check the search plug-in documentation, or the catalog documentation, to see if it makes mention of the treatment of non-alphanumeric characters, even if they appear in "words" (i.e. PDF strings). Or you could compare the results of search for strings like apple butter apple-butter apple;butter (You get the idea.) Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Mar-1998 17:37:02-GMT,5420;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07452 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:37:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA10844; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:25:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:24:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10741; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:24:55 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD46C9.3C2D1440.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Recognizing Interleaf dashes in PDF Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:24:30 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD46C9.3C2D1440" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD46C9.3C2D1440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tuesday, 3 March, 1998 16:50, Jon Downing [SMTP:c08469@j1xsfs90.is.nwa.com] wrote: > Lora, > > Thanks for the tip. I was able to convert a PL to a PS using pl2ps. I then distilled the PS. > Unfortunately, the dashes were still not recognized. Are there any particular > switches in pl2ps that I might try? Also, any ideas on why the dashes look great > on-screen, but can't be searched? Thanks. Coming back to the original question, by Search do you mean the Search plug-in and Acrobat Catalog? If so, I think we may be going completely up the wrong track. Dashes are punctuation - and Catalog strips punctuation to index words, as I understand it. 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What does The List know about PostScript coming out of a Miles33 typesetting system? I took PS from a competitor (files that list Miles33 in the header of the PS files), and Distilled them into PDFs for a client. I had initial problems with em-dashes and ligatures and thought it was a problem with fonts on MY end. I seemed to fix the problem but still had a problem with accented letters (the accents are set on a separate line above the letters, not as a high-bit composite character) and that I cannot seem to fix. But the client called to say they still don't see emdashes in Reader for Windows. I do. Any thoughts? --KK +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Mar-1998 18:28:40-GMT,3876;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA09043 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:28:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA13013; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:13:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:12:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA12980; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:12:14 -0600 Message-ID: <34FC7216.2BBDB873@infodata.com> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 13:11:50 -0800 From: viator@infodata.com (Viator, Lora) Organization: Infodata Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Recognizing Interleaf dashes in PDF References: <01BD469A.8885F430@S14194> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Jon, You might try using the -ppd switch and try different ppds that are known to your system, but first try -ppd GENERIC.PPD. I have tried other ppds and GENERIC seems to work very well. As for the searching issue, I am at a loss. Maybe there is a discrepancy between the dash in Symbol font versus the dash in Times etc.... I am not sure. If someone knows I hope they respond. Lora Jon Downing wrote: > Lora, > > Thanks for the tip. I was able to convert a PL to a PS using pl2ps. I then distilled the PS. > Unfortunately, the dashes were still not recognized. Are there any particular > switches in pl2ps that I might try? Also, any ideas on why the dashes look great > on-screen, but can't be searched? Thanks. > > Jon Downing > > ---------- > From: Viator, Lora > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 1:03 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Recognizing Interleaf dashes in PDF > > Jon > > Beware of Interleaf created PS files. The fonts Interleaf uses are not Adobe PS Type 1 > and can cause problems for you. In order to get all of your fonts to come through > perfectly you might try creating a printerleaf file, then use the free pl2ps script to > create a PS file. Then distill that. > > Lora Viator > > Jon Downing wrote: > > > We are creating PDF files from Interleaf-generated Postscript using Distiller. > > The dashes found in the PDF version of our documents show up on-screen > > and in hardcopy, but cannot be searched for or indexed. Are there any work-arounds > > or patches available to get these dashes to come through properly? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Jon Downing > > Technical Publications > > Northwest Airlines, Inc. > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Part 1.2 Type: application/ms-tnef > Encoding: base64 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Mar-1998 18:34:44-GMT,6301;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA09212 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:34:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA13484; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:26:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:25:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA13410; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:25:18 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD46A7.C391D8C0@S14194> From: Jon Downing To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Recognizing Interleaf dashes in PDF Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:24:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD46A7.C397F340" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD46A7.C397F340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't think the problem is with the search engine only. If I 'select all', copy and paste the results to a text file, all of the dashes show up as little boxes. If I create a similar file with dashes in Word, for example, and convert to PDF, I can search and find dashes. Jon Downing ---------- From: Cory Snavely Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 12:15 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Recognizing Interleaf dashes in PDF Jon Downing wrote: > > Thanks for the tip. I was able to convert a PL to a PS using pl2ps. > I then distilled the PS. Unfortunately, the dashes were still not > recognized. Are there any particular switches in pl2ps that I might > try? Also, any ideas on why the dashes look great on-screen, but > can't be searched? Thanks. Are you sure that the search engine itself isn't treating the dashes as non-searchable? IOW, a perfectly-prepared PDF might exhibit the same behavior? I would check the search plug-in documentation, or the catalog documentation, to see if it makes mention of the treatment of non-alphanumeric characters, even if they appear in "words" (i.e. PDF strings). Or you could compare the results of search for strings like apple butter apple-butter apple;butter (You get the idea.) 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I was just using Tools > Find... in Exchange. I had not yet gotten to the point of indexing with Catalog. Jon Downing ---------- From: Aandi Inston Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 12:24 PM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] Recognizing Interleaf dashes in PDF On Tuesday, 3 March, 1998 16:50, Jon Downing [SMTP:c08469@j1xsfs90.is.nwa.com] wrote: > Lora, > > Thanks for the tip. I was able to convert a PL to a PS using pl2ps. I then distilled the PS. > Unfortunately, the dashes were still not recognized. Are there any particular > switches in pl2ps that I might try? Also, any ideas on why the dashes look great > on-screen, but can't be searched? Thanks. Coming back to the original question, by Search do you mean the Search plug-in and Acrobat Catalog? If so, I think we may be going completely up the wrong track. Dashes are punctuation - and Catalog strips punctuation to index words, as I understand it. 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In a project I am doing, I have resorted to creating shortcut links in the Windows Start menu on the users local hard-drive during the Install Shield setup.exe. Fortunately my product only has to run on Win95 / NT. Let me know if you have any questions regarding how to do this. It seems, generally, that I can assume that certain files will be installed on a hard drive named "C", but it is not possible (as a developer) to make any assumptions about the name of the CD-ROM drive. For this reason, certain types of links require work arounds to make them stable and consistent. -----Original Message----- From: Czajka, Mark To: 'PDF List' Date: Monday, March 02, 1998 4:43 PM Subject: [PDF] web links to files on local CD > >Is there a syntax other than file://... to open html files from a PDF >file on a local CD-ROM? I can't figure out a way to do this without the >drive letter being included in the URL. > > > >> ________The One-Off CD Shops - Washington, DC >> _________________4590 Graphics Drive >> _______________White Plains, MD 20695 >> __________(301) 870-0480 or (800) 678-8760 >> ________Internet: http://www.oneoffcd.ags.com >> >> >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Mar-1998 21:17:15-GMT,2960;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13721 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:17:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA19724; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:47:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:45:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19646; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:45:28 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 14:41:36 -0600 From: Paul Schulte To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Unix printing question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Good day all! We use Acrobat as the primary viewer with one of our applications, a product data management (PDM) system. Some of the pdf's we load into this system are beyond our normal A-size (8&1/2 X 11). (Just B-Size now, that is 11 X 17.) Users worldwide order prints without going into Acrobat and changing the print setup options. The PDM system opens the application (Solaris version) and prints all pages of the file to the requested networked postscript printer. (The PDM system itself is completely Unix based.) The problem: The programming from the PDM system that spools the Acrobat print only takes into account the "normal," default options. To further complicate this for our users, the PDM system uses the Solaris Reader regardless of platform, which runs less than gracefully on the non-Unix platforms. (Network issues with worldwide installations. PC's predominate, but we have some Mac's left. Easier for the IS staff to handle this network-based installation.) We would like to have the PDM system print these non A-size files to the correct size and orientation without user intervention. It's difficult to instruct lots of worldwide users in how to do this, plus access to postscript printers and plotters that can handle the larger sizes are more restricted. Can this easily be accomplished through code with the PDM system and Acrobat? (We also have Exchange installed on the same Solaris server.) Remember, this fix must be Solaris and not PC-based. Or will our users just have to suffer and learn how to do this manually? Thanks for any help! Paul K. Schulte Medtronic, Inc. Configuration Assurance Phone #: 612/514-8349 Fax #: 612/514-8674 Email: paul.k.schulte@medtronic.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Mar-1998 21:17:57-GMT,1733;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13747 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:17:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA20126; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:55:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:54:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20064; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:54:22 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980303154535.007c8740@falcon> X-Sender: devries@falcon X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 15:45:35 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mark DeVries Subject: RE: [PDF] Recognizing Interleaf dashes in PDF In-Reply-To: <01BD46C9.3C2D1440.quite@dial.pipex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Also, any ideas on why the dashes look great > on-screen, but can't be searched? Could it be simply because en- and em-dashes are different characters from the old familiar ASCII hyphen/dash/minus (just as Q and ? and paragraph-sign and A-acute are different), and you need to be able to input the correct unique code in order to find them? Mark DeVries Xyvision, Inc. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Mar-1998 22:34:49-GMT,2729;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16036 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:34:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA23765; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:09:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:07:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA23651; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:07:48 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD46B6.132DC200.john@vidcad.com> From: John Noe To: "'PDF Discussion Group'" Subject: [PDF] Thanks All Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:07:24 -0700 Organization: VidCAD, Inc. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Just wanted to drop a note to the group thanking those who responded to my post regarding the .ps and .eps dilemna. I realized that I was more "ranting" than stating my actual problem. If a .eps file consists of text (or similar) then I have no problem putting it through the Distiller, and the results don't have to be immaculate. However, many of the files I am recieving from manufacturers have a .eps or .ps file for the text desc, and then another postscript file which is the _graphic_ for that same product. Although I am ignorant of PostScript and it's many supposed benefits, common sense tells me that I should not treat these images like a regular .jpg or .gif file. For the purposes of my project though, - Text = .pdf format - Images = .jpg or .gif - Line drawings and CAD = .wmf or .dxf So my point (Oh please forgive my ignorance!) is that sure I could put that postscript _image_ through the distiller and create a .pdf, but if it is only a picture of a product, then I would rather just have it in JPG or whatever... and if it is a vector-type line-art drawing, it should go to WMF... but again, something tells me that simply capturing the .ps image while it is being displayed (ie. with Paint Shop Pro) will "ruin" the "postsciptish" properties (whatever those are) of the image. Otherwise the people would have just given me a .gif or .jpg right? Thanks again people for the replies, I definately appreciate them. John Noe Information Services VidCAD, Inc. email: john@vidcad.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Mar-1998 23:09:36-GMT,3770;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA17205 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:09:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA25051; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:44:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:43:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA24999; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:43:54 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD46F5.CC6EFEC0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Thanks All Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:42:01 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Tuesday, 3 March, 1998 22:07, John Noe [SMTP:john@vidcad.com] wrote: > > > If a .eps file consists of text (or similar) then I have no problem putting it through > the Distiller, and the results don't have to be immaculate. > However, many of the files I am recieving from manufacturers have a .eps or .ps > file for the text desc, and then another postscript file which is the _graphic_ > for that same product. Although I am ignorant of PostScript and it's > many supposed benefits, common sense tells me that I should not > treat these images like a regular .jpg or .gif file. > For the purposes of my project though, > > - Text = .pdf format > - Images = .jpg or .gif > - Line drawings and CAD = .wmf or .dxf > > So my point (Oh please forgive my ignorance!) is that sure I could put that postscript > _image_ through the distiller and create a .pdf, but if it is only a picture of a product, > then I would rather just have it in JPG or whatever... and if it is a vector-type line-art > drawing, it should go to WMF... but again, something tells me that simply capturing > the .ps image while it is being displayed (ie. with Paint Shop Pro) will "ruin" the > "postsciptish" properties (whatever those are) of the image. > Otherwise the people would have just given me a .gif or .jpg right? Well....PostScript is pretty much the standard in publishing. People will send you EPS or PostScript, or perhaps TIFF, but that's about the only formats you would receive from a publishing professional. They wouldn't go anywhere near a GIF and would be highly suspicious of a JPEG. A PostScript file can contain just about anything. Text, bitmaps, drawings, line art, a mixture, all different resolution bitmaps, embedded (or not) fonts...you will potentially lose information going to any other format, but the conversion to PDF is the most direct and probably lossless. But from what you say you have multiple PostScript (probably EPS) files to make up a page. You'd have to combine these in a page make-up program (like Quark XPress, PageMaker) BEFORE distilling. You do need to understand the difference between a printable PostScript file (one or more complete pages, ready to print) and EPS (a form of graphic, to be placed before printing). And remember - converting to PDF is very similar to printing. If you aren't too clear about PostScript you can find a little more on http://www.quite.com/ps/, which tries a little to demystify EPS. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Mar-1998 23:13:27-GMT,2043;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA17316 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:13:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA25546; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:58:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:57:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA25479; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:57:28 -0600 Message-ID: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA270C4E93@MARS> From: "Schiff, Kenny" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Word 97->PDF and Resolution of Bitmaps? Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:32:11 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We're going through the process of distilling a whole body of manuals created in Word for Windows (6-8). Many of these docs have embedded bitmaps, most are screen captures (some color, some monochrome). Most of these were done at 8 bit, 800 x600. When we print out the Word docs the resolution of the shots is acceptable. When we distill (using default Distiller settings) the resolution of these is not acceptable on screen, and worse for print out via laser. Can someone suggest Distiller settings for this? Our hope is to Docutech the these via PDF, in addition to providing web accessability. We're trying to have a somewhat universal format for these, with print being the most important output for the moment. Any help would be appreciated. Kenny +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Mar-1998 23:49:37-GMT,1562;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18316 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:49:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA26773; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:26:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:26:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA26733; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:26:07 -0600 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <882565BC.007FD40B.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:26:01 -0700 Subject: [PDF] problem distilling Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We're experiencing a problem distilling documents. We are, admittedly, very short on disk space and this is probably our problem. BUT, we get a response something like this: "Scratch file is almost full". I just know that someone on this list can tell me where this scratch file is located, what it is, and how we "empty" it! Thanks, Sue G +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 3-Mar-1998 23:49:37-GMT,1228;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18313 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:49:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA26685; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:24:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:23:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA26606; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:23:03 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD46C0.9D5C9F00.john@vidcad.com> From: John Noe To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Thank you Aandi Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:22:51 -0700 Organization: VidCAD, Inc. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Mar-1998 0:00:46-GMT,2448;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA18581 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:00:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA27911; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:52:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:51:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27838; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:51:37 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD46C4.8FB9E160.john@vidcad.com> From: John Noe To: "'PDF Discussion Group'" Subject: [PDF] error message Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:51:06 -0700 Organization: VidCAD, Inc. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 p.s. - (*groan* no pun intended...) Anyone know what to make of this? I have an entire Zip disk full of files that all return this message when viewed. - John -- BEGIN NASTY MESSAGE -- Loaded Ghostscript DLL C:\GSTOOLS\gs5.10\gsdll32.dll Aladdin Ghostscript 5.10 (1997-11-23) Copyright (C) 1997 Aladdin Enterprises, Menlo Park, CA. All rights reserved. This software comes with NO WARRANTY: see the file PUBLIC for details. Displaying DSC file C:/WINDOWS/DESKTOP/SPECS6 in-progress/Aardvark/AardDDA/Literature_FRONT.EPS without pages Warning: EPS file must not use /statusdict Warning: EPS file should be careful using /setmatrix Loading NimbusSanL-Regu font from C:\GSTOOLS\gs5.10\fonts\n019003l.pfb... 1852212 546294 1842520 545681 1 done. Warning: EPS file must not use /statusdict Unrecoverable error: undefined in II* --- Begin offending input --- 1954.75 2287.75 L 1910.75 2287.75 L 1910.75 2330.25 L s n vmr vmr end %%Trailer II* <) yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy --- End offending input --- file offset = 993310 gsdll_execute_cont returns -21 -- END NASTY MESSAGE -- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Mar-1998 1:08:50-GMT,1811;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA20297 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:08:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA30075; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:41:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:40:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA30035; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:40:42 -0600 Message-ID: <34FCA271.B60E035B@fidnet.com> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 18:38:09 -0600 From: "M. Randall Mueller" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "'PDF Discussion Group'" Subject: [PDF] Alright fellow PDF'ers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am about to impliment a PDF work flow system with 20 Mac's on a cyrx sytem going to a tiapan rip on a agfa imagesetter. I will be using QuarkXpress to eps, stepping the job, then using Exchange with crakerjack plug to print to rip...this will be the first system in our area....I am scared!!!! We are ordering Toolbox and will use pdfbatchmester..soon...You are the only ones I have to hold my hand...I will come with any problems.. Randall -- mueller@fidnet.com http://whdesign.com WebHeadBookShop - WebTV Talk +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Mar-1998 2:54:12-GMT,3737;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA22678 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:54:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA01205; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:27:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:24:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA01061; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:24:31 -0600 Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 21:24:06 -0500 From: olaf druemmer Subject: Re: [PDF] error message To: PDF listserver Message-ID: <199803032124_MC2-3569-A962@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id UAA01057 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Did you try to distill the file? Then we could know if it's a PostScript or a GhostScript problem... Olaf Druemmer > > > >p.s. - (*groan* no pun intended...) >Anyone know what to make of this? >I have an entire Zip disk full of files that all return this message when >viewed. > >- John > >-- BEGIN NASTY MESSAGE -- > >Loaded Ghostscript DLL C:\GSTOOLS\gs5.10\gsdll32.dll >Aladdin Ghostscript 5.10 (1997-11-23) >Copyright (C) 1997 Aladdin Enterprises, Menlo Park, CA. All rights >reserved. >This software comes with NO WARRANTY: see the file PUBLIC for details. >Displaying DSC file C:/WINDOWS/DESKTOP/SPECS6 >in-progress/Aardvark/AardDDA/Literature_FRONT.EPS without pages >Warning: EPS file must not use /statusdict >Warning: EPS file should be careful using /setmatrix >Loading NimbusSanL-Regu font from C:\GSTOOLS\gs5.10\fonts\n019003l.pfb... >1852212 546294 1842520 545681 1 done. >Warning: EPS file must not use /statusdict >Unrecoverable error: undefined in II* > >--- Begin offending input --- >1954.75 2287.75 L 1910.75 2287.75 L 1910.75 2330.25 L s n vmr vmr end >%%Trailer II* <) yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy >yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy >yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy >--- End offending input --- >file offset = 993310 >gsdll_execute_cont returns -21 > >-- END NASTY MESSAGE -- > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- *** See us at Seybold New York, March 17-19,1998, Booth Number 2071 *** *** and at Adobe's Developer Pavilion, Booth Number 1534 *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Mar-1998 5:10:30-GMT,1971;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA25782 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:10:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA05560; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:34:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:32:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA05446; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:32:51 -0600 From: robertpr@earthlink.net (Robert Prickett) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] links to HTML Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 04:32:13 GMT Message-ID: <34fdd847.216077988@mail.earthlink.net> References: <01BD4635.267BCAE0.quite@dial.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <01BD4635.267BCAE0.quite@dial.pipex.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Advice on this list has 'almost' solved my problem. We are making a training CD in acroread format [from 'exchange' and documents made in powerpoint and winword] but want to occasionally 'click' to an onboard browser for a series of html pages. Netscape and acroread would be on the CD, so 'leaving' the Cd would not be necesary, nor is installing anything on the user's computer. The training CD must be standalone. Possible? How, please...everything is going fine, until the html part My Windows 95 Crisis Center http://home.earthlink.net/~robertpr [don't forget the ~ tilde that earthlink uses] +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Mar-1998 9:49:55-GMT,3768;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA02030 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 02:49:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA12923; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 03:28:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 03:26:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA12816; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 03:26:41 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980304092310.00bbdcf0@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-Sender: martinb@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 09:23:10 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, "'PDF Discussion Group'" From: Martin Bailey Subject: Re: [PDF] error message In-Reply-To: <01BD46C4.8FB9E160.john@vidcad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 The II* is probably the beginning of a TIFF preview in an MSDos format EPS file. Given that GhostScript gets that far I'd assume that it must have interpreted the binary header of the file and should therefore know how long the PostScript portion of the file should be. If it's running into the TIFF part then I'd guess that the length of the PostScript portion has changed, perhaps because of line-end conversions. have these files been transmitted at any point? Were they sent as binary or text? Incidentally, there's nothing wrong with using statusdict in an eps file to my mind, although there are a number of procedures/operators in that dictionary which should definitely be avoided. Regards Martin Bailey Harlequin Ltd At 16:51 03/03/98 -0700, John Noe wrote: > > >p.s. - (*groan* no pun intended...) >Anyone know what to make of this? >I have an entire Zip disk full of files that all return this message when >viewed. > >- John > >-- BEGIN NASTY MESSAGE -- > >Loaded Ghostscript DLL C:\GSTOOLS\gs5.10\gsdll32.dll >Aladdin Ghostscript 5.10 (1997-11-23) >Copyright (C) 1997 Aladdin Enterprises, Menlo Park, CA. All rights >reserved. >This software comes with NO WARRANTY: see the file PUBLIC for details. >Displaying DSC file C:/WINDOWS/DESKTOP/SPECS6 >in-progress/Aardvark/AardDDA/Literature_FRONT.EPS without pages >Warning: EPS file must not use /statusdict >Warning: EPS file should be careful using /setmatrix >Loading NimbusSanL-Regu font from C:\GSTOOLS\gs5.10\fonts\n019003l.pfb... >1852212 546294 1842520 545681 1 done. >Warning: EPS file must not use /statusdict >Unrecoverable error: undefined in II* > >--- Begin offending input --- >1954.75 2287.75 L 1910.75 2287.75 L 1910.75 2330.25 L s n vmr vmr end >%%Trailer II* <) yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy >yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy >yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy >--- End offending input --- >file offset = 993310 >gsdll_execute_cont returns -21 > >-- END NASTY MESSAGE -- > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Mar-1998 9:53:44-GMT,2019;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA02137 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 02:53:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA13614; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 03:48:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 03:47:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA13570; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 03:47:51 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD4752.8C904F40.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] links to HTML Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:47:41 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Wednesday, 4 March, 1998 04:32, Robert Prickett [SMTP:robertpr@earthlink.net] wrote: > > Advice on this list has 'almost' solved my problem. We are making a > training CD in acroread format [from 'exchange' and documents made in > powerpoint and winword] but want to occasionally 'click' to an onboard > browser for a series of html pages. Netscape and acroread would be on > the CD, so 'leaving' the Cd would not be necesary, nor is installing > anything on the user's computer. The training CD must be standalone. You cannot distribute Acrobat pre-installed on a CDROM. Check the restribution license for Acrobat Reader - you would be breaking it. You can of ourse include the installer. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Mar-1998 9:55:33-GMT,3649;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA02158 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 02:55:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA13617; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 03:48:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 03:47:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA13550; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 03:47:48 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD4752.8AD44760.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] error message Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:46:33 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 These appear to be EPS files with a preview attached, because you have started to interpret the TIFF file that follows (starting II* is a dead give away). One of the following may apply: 1. GhostScript may not handle EPS files with previews (in general you should place EPS files onto a page before trying to convert to PDF); 2. GhostScript may handle EPS files with previews, but someone has stripped off the header (30-something bytes at the start) which would allow the files to be identified. 3. GhostScript may handle EPS files, and the header may be intact, but the files may have been damaged so that the TIFF part is encountered too soon. Aandi On Tuesday, 3 March, 1998 23:51, John Noe [SMTP:john@vidcad.com] wrote: > > > p.s. - (*groan* no pun intended...) > Anyone know what to make of this? > I have an entire Zip disk full of files that all return this message when > viewed. > > - John > > -- BEGIN NASTY MESSAGE -- > > Loaded Ghostscript DLL C:\GSTOOLS\gs5.10\gsdll32.dll > Aladdin Ghostscript 5.10 (1997-11-23) > Copyright (C) 1997 Aladdin Enterprises, Menlo Park, CA. All rights > reserved. > This software comes with NO WARRANTY: see the file PUBLIC for details. > Displaying DSC file C:/WINDOWS/DESKTOP/SPECS6 > in-progress/Aardvark/AardDDA/Literature_FRONT.EPS without pages > Warning: EPS file must not use /statusdict > Warning: EPS file should be careful using /setmatrix > Loading NimbusSanL-Regu font from C:\GSTOOLS\gs5.10\fonts\n019003l.pfb... > 1852212 546294 1842520 545681 1 done. > Warning: EPS file must not use /statusdict > Unrecoverable error: undefined in II* > > --- Begin offending input --- > 1954.75 2287.75 L 1910.75 2287.75 L 1910.75 2330.25 L s n vmr vmr end > %%Trailer II* <) yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy > yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy > yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy > --- End offending input --- > file offset = 993310 > gsdll_execute_cont returns -21 > > -- END NASTY MESSAGE -- > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Mar-1998 10:41:11-GMT,2858;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA03050 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 03:41:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA14454; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 04:22:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 04:21:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA14396; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 04:20:58 -0600 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:23:06 GMT X-Sender: dstevens@europe.eur.adobe.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <34fdd847.216077988@mail.earthlink.net> References: <01BD4635.267BCAE0.quite@dial.pipex.com> <01BD4635.267BCAE0.quite@dial.pipex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David Stevenson Subject: Re: [PDF] links to HTML Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I hate to throw a spanner in the works, but I should remind you that the Acrobat Reader licence agreement does not allow you to distribute it in an executable form as suggested by your message. You are only allowed to freely distribute the Reader installer, to ensure that the user gets to see and accept the licence agreement for themselves, and also to ensure that the Reader software is properly installed. See http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/distribute.html for the full legal position. David Stevenson European Acrobat Product Manager >Advice on this list has 'almost' solved my problem. We are making a >training CD in acroread format [from 'exchange' and documents made in >powerpoint and winword] but want to occasionally 'click' to an onboard >browser for a series of html pages. Netscape and acroread would be on >the CD, so 'leaving' the Cd would not be necesary, nor is installing >anything on the user's computer. The training CD must be standalone. > >Possible? How, please...everything is going fine, until the html part > > >My Windows 95 Crisis Center >http://home.earthlink.net/~robertpr >[don't forget the ~ tilde that earthlink uses] >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Mar-1998 10:58:53-GMT,3337;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA03371 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 03:58:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA15082; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 04:50:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 04:49:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA15009; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 04:49:00 -0600 Message-ID: <000101bd475a$bc6c8820$1f40dec2@nplum.demon.co.uk> From: Nic Plum To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at post.mail.demon.net Subject: Re: [PDF] links to HTML Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:26:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 It sounds as though what you want is for the browser to invoke the Acrobat Reader plug-in to read Acrobat docs and just behave normally to read HTML. This just needs the plug-in in the right place. You can link web pages to acrobat documents and vice versa so that navigating between the 2 shouldn't pose a problem. What is the worry and what range of platforms do you have to cater for? Nic. ================================================================= Buckden, < www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/ > Huntingdon, For information management and Cambs, Adobe Acrobat integration from UK. within your favourite PE18 9SZ wordprocessor -----Original Message----- From: Robert Prickett To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: 04 March 1998 05:01 Subject: [PDF] links to HTML > >Advice on this list has 'almost' solved my problem. We are making a >training CD in acroread format [from 'exchange' and documents made in >powerpoint and winword] but want to occasionally 'click' to an onboard >browser for a series of html pages. Netscape and acroread would be on >the CD, so 'leaving' the Cd would not be necesary, nor is installing >anything on the user's computer. The training CD must be standalone. > >Possible? How, please...everything is going fine, until the html part > > >My Windows 95 Crisis Center >http://home.earthlink.net/~robertpr >[don't forget the ~ tilde that earthlink uses] >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- ----+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- ----+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Mar-1998 11:23:23-GMT,3456;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA03848 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 04:23:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA15267; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 04:57:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 04:55:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA15174; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 04:55:26 -0600 Message-ID: <000201bd475a$bdee9440$1f40dec2@nplum.demon.co.uk> From: Nic Plum To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, Kenny.Schiff@rauland.com MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at post.mail.demon.net Subject: Re: [PDF] Word 97->PDF and Resolution of Bitmaps? Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:30:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Ignoring the print out, have you tried viewing the bitmaps at different zoom factors? It could just be that you have, say , fit-to-width as the setting in Reader/Exchange and the resulting zoom factor (depending on your window size) is distorting the bitmap on the screen. Nic. ================================================================= Buckden, < www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/ > Huntingdon, For information management and Cambs, Adobe Acrobat integration from UK. within your favourite PE18 9SZ wordprocessor -----Original Message----- From: Schiff, Kenny To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Date: 03 March 1998 23:24 Subject: [PDF] Word 97->PDF and Resolution of Bitmaps? > >We're going through the process of distilling a whole body of manuals >created in Word for Windows (6-8). Many of these docs have embedded >bitmaps, most are screen captures (some color, some monochrome). Most of >these were done at 8 bit, 800 x600. > >When we print out the Word docs the resolution of the shots is >acceptable. When we distill (using default Distiller settings) the >resolution of these is not acceptable on screen, and worse for print out >via laser. Can someone suggest Distiller settings for this? > >Our hope is to Docutech the these via PDF, in addition to providing web >accessability. We're trying to have a somewhat universal format for >these, with print being the most important output for the moment. > >Any help would be appreciated. > >Kenny >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- ----+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- ----+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Mar-1998 13:00:50-GMT,2521;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA05630 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 06:00:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA17768; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 06:36:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 06:33:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA17657; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 06:33:47 -0600 Message-ID: <34FD3C1F.7E354FB2@globalreach.net> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 06:33:55 -0500 From: Scottie Scott Organization: Graphics 2000 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Alright fellow PDF'ers References: <34FCA271.B60E035B@fidnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hey Randall, You might want to consider Adobe PageMaker to make your .pdfs. It is so much easier. No .ps or distiller stuff. Its all done automatically within PageMaker. Think about it, Adobe Acrobat - Adobe PageMaker, makes sense. Scottie M. Randall Mueller wrote: > I am about to impliment a PDF work flow system with 20 Mac's on a cyrx > sytem going to a tiapan rip on a agfa imagesetter. I will be using > QuarkXpress to eps, stepping the job, then using Exchange with > crakerjack plug to print to rip...this will be the first system in our > area....I am scared!!!! We are ordering Toolbox and will use > pdfbatchmester..soon...You are the only ones I have to hold my hand...I > will come with any problems.. > > Randall > -- > mueller@fidnet.com > http://whdesign.com > WebHeadBookShop - WebTV Talk > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Mar-1998 14:53:34-GMT,6354;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA08015 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:53:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA22995; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:35:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:33:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22877; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:33:19 -0600 Message-ID: <34FD653A.2692@casact.org> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 09:29:14 -0500 From: Mike Boa Organization: Casualty Actuarial Society X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-GZone (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Funny commas References: <01BD4398.B881DB90@S14194> <34FC45F6.47268821@infodata.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I posted a problem to the list yesterday and was able to solve the problem with the assistance of a list member who responded off-line. I am forwarding our correspondence to the list in case others encounter the same problem. ----- I post to the list yesterday: I was provided with a 50 page .ps file heavy in complex math symbols and formulas. I don't have any other information about the .ps file. I then ran the file through Distiller to create the PDF. All the math symbols and formulas convert fine. The thinng that does not convert are the commas in the 13 page Appendix. The commas are converted to a funny symbol that looks like a T. I've ended up scanning and capturing the Appendix and replacing the pages in the PDF. But now I've ended up with a 1.2 mb doc instead of a 500 kb doc that will take a lot longer to download from our web site. Can anyone suggest a solution or a better work-around? ----- "Richard L. Sites" responded: I saw something similar to this about a month ago. The file contained a bogus font definition that illegally has comma defined twice -- one draws a comma and one draws a capital Greek lambda -- looks like an upside down "L". There is an off chance you have the same font, or one created in a similar way. You can do a quick check by redistilling with all compresion turned off in the Distiller job options, and specifying the ASCII checkbox, then opening the resulting PDF in a text editor (notepad or wordpad or winword will do) and looking for a font dictionary that has comma defined twice: search for the two-character string "/," and see if you hit something like: << /, 85 0 R /foo 17 0 R /bar 385 1 R /, 86 0 R ... >> | | duplicate; illegal but not caught by Distiller. If you find something like this, you can attempt a manual patch if you are feeling brave. You must be sure you have a text editor that is not goiong to reformat the file or change around the carriage-returns and line feeds. Wordpad is pretty good so long as you keep forcing it to use .txt files at the save. Fonts often have the structure of 3 dictionaries: <> 3925 0 obj <> endobj 3926 0 obj <> endobj for a Type 3 bitmapped font, this last dictionary will contain a /CharProcs dictionary which in turn contains the duplicate /, key above. Try switching one of the "/," keys to something else unique, say "/,,". [This will mess up your PDF file byte offsets a bit but Acrobat will rebuild it.] View the file and see if the commas are OK. If not, try switching the other one. ----- I replied: Brilliant! Thanks a lot for your e-mail. You described the problem exactly; commas were drawn as the lambda. And thanks to your detailed instruction, I have commas again! Thanks! I do have one more question at the end of this e-mail. I followed the instruction in your e-mail. I distilled the file, with all compression off and with ASCII checked. This turned the 575KB PS file into a 1145KB PDF file. I then opened the file in WordPad and did a Find on "/," I found this string: << /, 332 0 R /#2303 333 0 R /#2306 334 0 R /#2308 335 0 R /#230B 336 0 R /#230C 337 0 R /#230D 338 0 R /#230E 339 0 R /! 340 0 R /" 341 0 R /$ 342 0 R /' 343 0 R /#2328 344 0 R /#2329 345 0 R /* 346 0 R /+ 347 0 R /, 348 0 R /- 349 0 R /. 350 0 R... I saw where the comma is defined twice, as you said it might be. I switched one of the /, to /,, and looked at the file in Reader - still had lambdas for commas. So I went back and changed the other and what do you know, the commas were where they should be. Now, I was concerned because the file was very large, so I went back and redistilled this time with all compression turned on. this time, the 575KB file became a 658 KB file. I opened the file in WordPad and made the same change as before, with the same result - commas instead of lambdas. ----- And finally, "Richard L. Sites" responded: Further investigation today reveals (at least) three bugs: - dvipsk generates illegal names in the PostScript font definition. - Distiller fails to complain and generates illegal PDF - Acrobat fails to complain and displays the wrong glyph with 50-50 probability AND the problem will disappear if you distill just a few pages of the file, containing comma but not Lambda. I've asked Tomas Rokicki at Radical Eye to look into this, on the assumption that some future release of Distiller will complain about the dvipsk bug and refuse to process the input PostScript. /dick ----- Sorry for the lengthy message, but as /dick said "This might help other people if this problem is common, and may also lead me more quickly to finding the source of this bogus font." -- Mike Boa Communications and Research Coordinator Casualty Actuarial Society WWW: http://www.casact.org +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Mar-1998 14:53:35-GMT,2829;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA08016 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:53:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA23159; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:38:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:36:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA23071; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:36:46 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Saccuzzo, Robin" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: Re: [PDF] Active Pages and Using Doc Properties Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:37:44 -0600 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have developed a macro for Microsoft Excel 97 that will extract the Pdf document information along with file location for placement in to a excel spreadsheet. For those interested email me privately with the subject title Excel Macro. Robin -----Original Message----- From: Schiff, Kenny [SMTP:Kenny.Schiff@Rauland.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 9:12 AM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Cc: 'iincorp@home.com' Subject: RE: Re: [PDF] Active Pages and Using Doc Properties The indexing piece of it is only a piece of what I'm trying to achieve. I want to list the files too, by using the field from the Acrobat Document properties. Is there anyway automated way to to do that? > If you need a FREE solution, this may not help, but $495 gets you > into the deal. Runs on a win95 machine or NT server/wkstn. Its > called cold fusion from allaire. Its an app server that comes with > the verity indexing search engine. Adobe has a piece of > software that allows you to index PDF's usingverity, and/or you > could get the MS Index server that comes with IIS4.0 anduse the > other Adobe plugin to allow IIS/MS Index Server to serve up lists > ofPDF's in the browser "search engine style". +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Mar-1998 15:06:55-GMT,2762;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA08418 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:06:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA24340; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:57:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:56:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA24273; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:56:14 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD477D.E98A9720.davec@docctrl.com> From: David Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller not keeping URL links Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:26:14 -0000 Organization: Computerised Document Control Ltd X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Jose Our Local Render tool will keep these links using either Distiller or PDFwriter. For more information check out www.docctrl.com drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat -----Original Message----- From: Jose_Lemus@capgroup.com [SMTP:Jose_Lemus@capgroup.com] Sent: 03 March 1998 00:02 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Distiller not keeping URL links Hello, When I type a URL link in Word or some other application, it automatically recognizes that it's a URL and when I click on it it launches my browser. But when I distill it using Distiller 3.01, those links come across dead. Nothing happens when I click on it. It's blue and everything but it's not a link. Is there anything that can be set so that Distiller automatically converts/keeps these links? Thanks in advance, Jose Lemus jol@capgroup.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Mar-1998 16:40:40-GMT,1606;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10958 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:40:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA28573; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:18:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:16:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28481; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:16:37 -0600 Message-Id: <199803041616.RAA00334@d1o202.telia.com> Subject: [PDF] Bookmarks in Batch . . . Date: Wed, 4 Mar 98 17:13:46 -0000 x-sender: u222600675@m1.2226.telia.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Richard Taubo To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA28478 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi all! Does anyone know about a tool which will let you copy the exact same bookmark (linked to an index file) into a ton of other pdf files?!? I hope you do (or I´ll have to stay up late;)! Regards, Richard Taubo +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Mar-1998 16:45:46-GMT,1609;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11061 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:45:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA29248; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:33:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:28:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28925; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:27:55 -0600 Message-Id: <199803041628.RAA02872@d1o202.telia.com> Subject: [PDF] Bookmarks in Batch . . . Date: Wed, 4 Mar 98 17:25:14 -0000 x-sender: u222600675@m1.2226.telia.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Richard Taubo To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA28922 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi all! Does anyone know about a tool which will let you copy the exact same bookmark (linked to an index file) into a ton of other pdf files?!? I hope you do (or I´ll have to stay up late;)! Regards, Richard Taubo +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Mar-1998 16:54:06-GMT,1920;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11288 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:54:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA29731; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:42:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:41:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29644; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:41:14 -0600 From: Ann Balaban Message-Id: <199803041641.KAA18309@garfield> Subject: [PDF] EXCEL2pdf To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:41:07 -0600 (CST) Cc: annb@dadd.ti.com (Ann Balaban) X-mimi-options: off X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, I don't know much about Excel but one of our engineers uses it extensively and wants to put his files in PDF for Web distribution. Is there a way to add links inside Excel that will convert to links inside PDF. Also, is there a way to create a TOC for Excel files that will show up in PDF. If this is not the correct list to ask this, can you direct me to a better one. Thanks. -- =~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~= Ann Balaban Texas Instruments 972-480-2522 annb@ti.com TI MSG: ABAN FAX: 972-480-3020 =~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~= +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Mar-1998 18:01:35-GMT,2857;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13285 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:01:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA32717; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:44:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:42:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA32638; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:42:13 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD4795.1B198B40.davec@docctrl.com> From: David Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] EXCEL2pdf Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 17:40:54 -0000 Organization: Computerised Document Control Ltd X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Ann We are extending our Local Render product to handle links in Excel. More details available at www.docctrl.com drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat -----Original Message----- From: Ann Balaban [SMTP:annb@dadd.ti.com] Sent: 04 March 1998 16:41 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: Ann Balaban Subject: [PDF] EXCEL2pdf Hi, I don't know much about Excel but one of our engineers uses it extensively and wants to put his files in PDF for Web distribution. Is there a way to add links inside Excel that will convert to links inside PDF. Also, is there a way to create a TOC for Excel files that will show up in PDF. If this is not the correct list to ask this, can you direct me to a better one. Thanks. -- =~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~= Ann Balaban Texas Instruments 972-480-2522 annb@ti.com TI MSG: ABAN FAX: 972-480-3020 =~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~=~~= +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Mar-1998 21:37:38-GMT,3153;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA19824 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:37:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA09671; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:14:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:12:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA09460; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:12:04 -0600 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 22:11:12 +0200 X-Sender: tim-jl@tim.se Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <34FD3C1F.7E354FB2@globalreach.net> References: <34FCA271.B60E035B@fidnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Johan Leide Subject: Re: [PDF] Alright fellow PDF'ers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA09454 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >> I am about to impliment a PDF work flow system with 20 Mac's on a cyrx >> sytem going to a tiapan rip on a agfa imagesetter. I will be using >> QuarkXpress to eps, stepping the job, then using Exchange with >> crakerjack plug to print to rip...this will be the first system in our >> area....I am scared!!!! We are ordering Toolbox and will use >> pdfbatchmester..soon...You are the only ones I have to hold my hand...I >> will come with any problems.. >> I have clients that uses just those tools. And it works fine. There is a few glitches with Illustrator files that has black elements defined as black instead of CMYK. They become calibrated Grey and therefor is separated by CrackerJack as RGB colour (Black turns out according to the separation tables). Will you really need Crackerjack? As far as I see it the Taipan rip offers the same setting but you set the settings in the hotfolders (separation, printmarks, RGB separation, inrip separation functionality etc) >You might want to consider Adobe PageMaker to make your .pdfs. It is so much >easier. No .ps or distiller stuff. Its all done automatically within >PageMaker. Think about it, Adobe Acrobat - Adobe PageMaker, makes sense. What a great Idea, Its "so" much easier to retrain 20 person in PageMaker instead of using XPress, and convert all you documents from one document format to an other so they can eliminate that they have to save the EPS-files in a special hotfolder. Best of luck Johan Leide Teknik i Media Malmö AB Johan Leide Tel 040-97 33 10 Per Weijersgatan 4 Mobil 0706-72 00 35 211 34 Malmö Fax 040-97 95 93 E-Mail johan.leide@tim.se +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Mar-1998 23:26:50-GMT,2500;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA22829 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:26:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA13968; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:57:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:55:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA13894; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:55:37 -0600 From: colleen_m_boyce@graco.com Message-Id: <9803048890.AA889049663@graco.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.11.00.3 Date: Wed, 04 Mar 98 16:22:02 -0600 To: Subject: [PDF] Distiller Asst. Fails MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm using PSPrinter with QXP 3.3.2 to create a PDF file. It almost completes the spooling process (gets to pg. 12 of 12), then posts error messages as follows: Acrobat Distiller Assistant could not locate a postscript file. No PDF file will be created. The spool file could not be saved because there was not enough disk space. Disk is fill [-34]. I am using the HP Color LaserJet printer driver, and smooth graphics is turned off. 25,000 kb RAM is allocated to Acrobat Distiller. 252 Mb is available on my hard disk, with 65 Mb RAM and virtural memory turned off. System 7.5.5. The file is cmyk with photos containing clipping paths, and graphics with graduated fills. The quark document and art files occupy 344 Mb disk space and are stored on CD. Tried distilling w/o the art files, using just Quark's preview pictures. That did create a PDF, but the clipping paths were lost. Tried different printer drivers with no success. I'm trying to avoid saving a postscript file since I don't have disk space to do that. Was hoping that increasing Distiller's RAM would prove successful. I'm stumped and stooped over, and hoping for helpful tips. Colleen Boyce Graco Inc, Mpls, MN +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Mar-1998 23:28:21-GMT,2556;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA22870 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:28:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA14777; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 17:18:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 17:17:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA14735; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 17:17:19 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD47C3.A96B0580.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller Asst. Fails Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 23:17:07 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Wednesday, 4 March, 1998 22:22, colleen_m_boyce@graco.com [SMTP:colleen_m_boyce@graco.com] wrote: > > > I'm using PSPrinter with QXP 3.3.2 to create a PDF file. It almost completes the > spooling process (gets to pg. 12 of 12), then posts error messages as follows: > Acrobat Distiller Assistant could not locate a postscript file. No PDF file will > be > created. The spool file could not be saved because there was not enough disk > space. > Disk is fill [-34]. > > I am using the HP Color LaserJet printer driver, and smooth graphics is turned > off. > 25,000 kb RAM is allocated to Acrobat Distiller. 252 Mb is available on my hard > disk, with 65 Mb RAM and virtural memory turned off. System 7.5.5. > > The file is cmyk with photos containing clipping paths, and graphics with > graduated > fills. The quark document and art files occupy 344 Mb disk space and are stored > on > CD. > > I'm trying to avoid saving a postscript file since I don't have disk space to do > that. Distiller Assistant doesn't get around saving a PostScript file. It just automates creating a file, then running Distiller, then deleting the file. Given this, the error message is perfectly true. Time to buy a disk, I think. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Mar-1998 0:16:00-GMT,2628;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA24268 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 17:15:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA15996; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 17:49:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 17:48:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA15927; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 17:48:04 -0600 Message-ID: <34FDE799.4A94CFC8@fidnet.com> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 17:45:29 -0600 From: "M. Randall Mueller" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Glitches was Re:[PDF]fellow PDF'ers References: <34FCA271.B60E035B@fidnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Johan Leide wrote: > few glitches with Illustrator files that has black elements defined as > black instead of CMYK. They become calibrated Grey and therefor is > separated by CrackerJack as RGB colour (Black turns out according to the > separation tables). So the answer here would be to us process black instead?? > Will you really need Crackerjack? As far as I see it the Taipan rip offers > the same setting but you set the settings in the hotfolders (separation, > printmarks, RGB separation, inrip separation functionality etc) This version as far as I can see does not allow for spot colors.. > Best of luck > > Johan Leide > > Teknik i Media Malmö AB > Johan Leide Tel 040-97 33 10 > Per Weijersgatan 4 Mobil 0706-72 00 35 > 211 34 Malmö Fax 040-97 95 93 > > E-Mail johan.leide@tim.se > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- mueller@fidnet.com http://whdesign.com WebHeadBookShop - WebTV Talk +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Mar-1998 0:18:11-GMT,3249;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA24316 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 17:18:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA16121; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 17:51:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 17:50:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16059; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 17:50:56 -0600 Message-ID: <34FDE84A.A4F9A7EC@fidnet.com> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 17:48:26 -0600 From: "M. Randall Mueller" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Alright fellow PDF'ers References: <34FCA271.B60E035B@fidnet.com> <34FD3C1F.7E354FB2@globalreach.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Well Scott, The problem is trainning 20 artist to use pagemaker...which for what we do is a bit of a step backwards, quark is easier and more powerful for the type of graphic layout we do.."MadeToPrint" plugins do allow preset conversion to .ps and batchmester has hot folders to convert with presets for pdf... Scottie Scott wrote: > > Hey Randall, > > You might want to consider Adobe PageMaker to make your .pdfs. It is so much > easier. No .ps or distiller stuff. Its all done automatically within > PageMaker. Think about it, Adobe Acrobat - Adobe PageMaker, makes sense. > > Scottie > > M. Randall Mueller wrote: > > > I am about to impliment a PDF work flow system with 20 Mac's on a cyrx > > sytem going to a tiapan rip on a agfa imagesetter. I will be using > > QuarkXpress to eps, stepping the job, then using Exchange with > > crakerjack plug to print to rip...this will be the first system in our > > area....I am scared!!!! We are ordering Toolbox and will use > > pdfbatchmester..soon...You are the only ones I have to hold my hand...I > > will come with any problems.. > > > > Randall > > -- > > mueller@fidnet.com > > http://whdesign.com > > WebHeadBookShop - WebTV Talk > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- mueller@fidnet.com http://whdesign.com WebHeadBookShop - WebTV Talk +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 4-Mar-1998 23:37:15-GMT,1836;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA23159 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:37:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA15156; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 17:28:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 17:27:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA15093; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 17:27:19 -0600 Message-ID: <34FDE355.4BC8@platinum.com> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 17:27:17 -0600 From: Glenn Organization: PLATINUM X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.text.pdf CC: pdf-l@emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Weblink error on WinNT but not Win95 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Acrobat 3.01 (Win95 and NT40) I added a weblink to a specific URL in a PDF file. In Win95, when I click on the link, it launches the browser and opens the URL. In Winnt 4.0, it does the same but when I switch back to the Reader (or Exchange) the following message displays: "The Web browser would not open this link. It may be busy performing other tasks." It's a strange message because the link opened fine in the browser but for some reason the Reader thinks there was an error. Anyone seen this, Glenn weir@platinum.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Mar-1998 3:26:24-GMT,1971;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA28994 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:26:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA22656; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:03:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:01:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA22582; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:01:24 -0600 From: robertpr@earthlink.net (Robert Prickett) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] links to HTML Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 03:00:53 GMT Message-ID: <35001513.297191004@mail.earthlink.net> References: <01BD4635.267BCAE0.quite@dial.pipex.com> <01BD4635.267BCAE0.quite@dial.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:23:06 GMT, you wrote: >I hate to throw a spanner in the works, but I should remind you that the >Acrobat Reader licence agreement does not allow you to distribute it in an >executable form as suggested by your message. You are only allowed to >freely distribute the Reader installer, I read and THOUGHT I understood the license. So, if I have the 'install' version complete with license agreement on the CD, with instructions to load it, and THEN read the trainer on the CD, then it's okay? +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Mar-1998 9:35:08-GMT,2374;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA07141 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 02:35:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA31812; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 03:11:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 03:09:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA31745; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 03:09:10 -0600 >Received: from amg-uucp.amg.de by amg.de with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0yAWGF-000LVtC; Thu, 5 Mar 98 09:44 MET Message-ID: <34FE6526.31A0F941@amg.de> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 09:41:10 +0100 From: Nadya Gobran X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] (Re: Distiller not keeping URL links) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello Jose, as far as I know, it is not possible to retain your URL links by just going through distiller. Your only possibility is if you use PDFMaker for Word 97. This is a free PlugIn, which is located on the Adobe site. PDFMaker translates all your word links into PDF links and much more (despite a few bugs). Hope this could help you... Regards Nadya Gobran nago@amg.de Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:02:17 -0800 From: Jose_Lemus@capgroup.com Subject: [PDF] Distiller not keeping URL links >Hello, >When I type a URL link in Word or some other application, it >automatically recognizes that it's a URL and when I click on it it >launches my browser. But when I distill it using Distiller 3.01, >those links come across dead. Nothing happens when I click on it. >It's blue and everything but it's not a link. >Is there anything that can be set so that Distiller automatically >converts/keeps these links? Thanks in advance, Jose Lemus jol@capgroup.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Mar-1998 10:52:27-GMT,1498;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA08637 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 03:52:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA00828; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 04:34:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 04:31:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA00713; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 04:31:35 -0600 Message-Id: <34FE7F24.8A79D53F@eps.agfa.be> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 11:32:44 +0100 From: johan struyfs Organization: Agfa_mortsel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Fonts used in text forms Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, Is there any way to make it possible to use more than the 13 standard fonts in a textfield !!!? Kind regards, Johan +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Mar-1998 13:06:16-GMT,2450;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA11159 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 06:06:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA03707; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 06:35:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 06:34:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA03643; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 06:34:56 -0600 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:04:09 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David R Evans Subject: [PDF] MS Internet Explorer / named destinations MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03a Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We have some people using named destinations within large PDF files to allow users to jump to the right place in the document when loading the PDF from a web site, and displaying within a browser. The URL might be something like: http://mysite.com/docs/plan.pdf#Page32 These links work fine with Netscape and Acrobat 3/3.01 and the PDF opens at the destination Page32. However, with Internet Explorer 3.02 such a link works the first time, but subsequent links to the same document but a different destination just re-open at the same place. With Internet Explorer 4 it doesn't open at all. Does anyone know if this is a known bug with Internet Explorer and/or Acrobat, or if there are any workarounds? Thanks for your help. David --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr David R Evans Telephone: (+44) 115 9860048 Merlin Open Systems (+44) 115 9514230 P O Box 230 E-mail: dre@merlin-os.co.uk NOTTINGHAM WWW: http://www.merlin-os.co.uk/ NG2 1LJ, UK Acrobat resellers, specialists in Adobe Acrobat plug-ins and electronic publishing software, publishers of Acrobatics +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Mar-1998 13:07:55-GMT,2084;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA11203 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 06:07:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA03492; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 06:29:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 06:27:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA03436; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 06:27:21 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD4832.087FCD80.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Fonts used in text forms Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:54:44 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 No. The code to check and embed a non-standard font would make this massively more complicated, as well as causing files to bloat. For form filling - the original design - there isn't really need for any more fonts. Aandi On Thursday, 5 March, 1998 10:33, johan struyfs [SMTP:jstruyfs@eps.agfa.be] wrote: > > Hello, > > Is there any way to make it possible to use more than the 13 standard > fonts in a textfield !!!? > > Kind regards, > Johan > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Mar-1998 13:56:27-GMT,2122;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA12100 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 06:56:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA05463; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 07:33:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 07:32:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA05407; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 07:32:37 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980305083132.00848aa0@magma.ca> X-Sender: webbers@magma.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 08:31:32 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Andrew Webber Subject: Re: [PDF] (Re: Distiller not keeping URL links) In-Reply-To: <34FE6526.31A0F941@amg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 09:41 AM 05-03-1998 +0100, you wrote: > >Hello Jose, > >as far as I know, it is not possible to retain your URL links by >just going through distiller. > >Your only possibility is if you use PDFMaker for Word 97. >This is a free PlugIn, which is located on the Adobe site. >PDFMaker translates all your word links into PDF links and >much more (despite a few bugs). > >Hope this could help you... > >Regards >Nadya Gobran >nago@amg.de On a somewhat related subject, can anyone tell me if this is possible with WordPerfect v8 (keep URLs in PDF, that are tagged in the WordPerfect file)? Thanks! andrew ------ Andrew Webber [awebber@sgml-mercs.com] SGML Mercenaries "Since 1990" P.O. Box 8676, Station T, Ottawa, Ontario K1G 3J1 613-523-3699 / Fax 613-523-6893 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Mar-1998 14:17:22-GMT,1596;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA12554 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 07:17:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA06865; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:08:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:07:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA06776; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:07:25 -0600 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:07:46 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: rick_bishop@bigfoot.com Subject: Re: [PDF] problem distilling Cc: sgililland@nexstar.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Sue: The scratch file is just a reference to the Paging file size on Win systems or - all remaining disk space on Mac systems. E-mail me directly with your system details, I'll tell you how to increase and/or maximize this for a limited drive space situation. I'll need to know if 68kMac, PowerMac, Win 3x, NT351, NT4, or 95. rick_bishop@bigfoot.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Mar-1998 14:18:37-GMT,2061;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA12589 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 07:18:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA06971; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:10:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:09:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA06905; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:09:44 -0600 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:10:04 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: rick_bishop@bigfoot.com Subject: Re: [PDF] links to HTML Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 robertpr@earthlink.net on 03/03/98 10:32:13 PM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Rick Bishop/Sheldon Consultant/Non-Champion) Subject: [PDF] links to HTML Robert: You could build a front end launcher / browser with Macromedia Authorware and run any other applicaitons from there. rick_bishop@bigfoot.com Advice on this list has 'almost' solved my problem. We are making a training CD in acroread format [from 'exchange' and documents made in powerpoint and winword] but want to occasionally 'click' to an onboard browser for a series of html pages. Netscape and acroread would be on the CD, so 'leaving' the Cd would not be necesary, nor is installing anything on the user's computer. The training CD must be standalone. Possible? How, please...everything is going fine, until the html part +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Mar-1998 14:50:45-GMT,4137;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13274 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 07:50:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA08125; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:34:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:33:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08030; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:33:06 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD480E.92053A00@hti166.infohwy.com> From: Ron Culp To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Multiple Indices Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:13:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD480E.920CDB20" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD480E.920CDB20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I need some quick help please. The dialog box only allows me to set one index for opening with the = page. Any way to load multiple indices when a page opens? I need 12 = separate indices, but need them all to load at once. t.i.a. 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We are making a > training CD in acroread format [from 'exchange' and documents made in > powerpoint and winword] but want to occasionally 'click' to an onboard > browser for a series of html pages. Netscape and acroread would be on > the CD, so 'leaving' the Cd would not be necesary, nor is installing > anything on the user's computer. The training CD must be standalone. > Possible? How, please...everything is going fine, until the html part Not possible. Not legally at least. You MUST NOT distribute Acrobat Reader pre-installed on the CDROM, even if you find a way to make it work that way. Read the redistribution license carefully for Acrobat Reader. You can distribute any of the installers from the Acrobat Reader CDROM on your own CDROM, provided they are unchanged. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Mar-1998 15:43:26-GMT,4717;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA14637 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:43:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA10048; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:20:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:19:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA09996; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:19:26 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD484A.12183CC0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: Multiple Indices Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:55:40 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD484A.12183CC0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD484A.12183CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This can't be done with the standard AutoIndex plug-in. It only has room for one name to be stored in the PDF file. You'd need a custom plug-in. On Thursday, 5 March, 1998 14:13, Ron Culp [SMTP:rfculp2@infohwy.com] wrote: > I need some quick help please. > > The dialog box only allows me to set one index for opening with the page. Any way to load multiple indices when a page opens? 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I can see a > possible commercial interest here, but surely the macro doesn't > *really* need Acrobat to produce a PostScript file with the PDF > meta-codes, does it? Well, I think it may be a commercial interest. Adobe lose a lot of sales when people set up "server" PDF situations, and with the price now so low they must be looking to eliminate the "one copy in the office" scenario. I understand that a clarification of the Distiller license makes it clear that distilling via a watched folder for someone else's computer requires that they have a licensed copy of Acrobat. Just thought I'd pass it on. > > If not, does someone know an easy way to install the macro without an > Acrobat package present? I would like to recieve enhanced PostScript > files from our Word97 users to archive in PDF, but I can't expect them > all to buy the Acrobat package... I would check the license carefully, and perhaps seek clarification, before embarking on solving this. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Mar-1998 16:42:53-GMT,2262;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16289 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:42:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA10397; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:30:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:29:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10330; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:29:15 -0600 Message-Id: <199803051529.AA21421@driene.student.utwente.nl> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Arnoud Jippes" Organization: University of Twente To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:31:11 +0100 Subject: [PDF] ?Word97 macro needs Acrobat X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 It seems the Word97 macro by Adobe (to convert hyperlinks, make bookmarks, etc.) needs the Acrobat package installed. I can see a possible commercial interest here, but surely the macro doesn't *really* need Acrobat to produce a PostScript file with the PDF meta-codes, does it? If not, does someone know an easy way to install the macro without an Acrobat package present? I would like to recieve enhanced PostScript files from our Word97 users to archive in PDF, but I can't expect them all to buy the Acrobat package... With kind regards, Arnoud Jippes. (http://www.ub.utwente.nl/webdoc/docs/) ------------------------------- Arnoud G. Jippes University of Twente Library/IT Postbus 217, 7500 AE, Enschede tel:(+31-534)894116, fax:351805 email: a.g.jippes@ub.utwente.nl ------------------------------- Arnoud G. Jippes University of Twente Library/IT Postbus 217, 7500 AE, Enschede tel: +31-534894116, fax: +31-534351805 email: a.g.jippes@ub.utwente.nl +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Mar-1998 17:17:20-GMT,2401;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17320 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:17:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA14239; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:01:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:00:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA14125; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:00:22 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD4858.2D1C6740.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] ?Word97 macro needs Acrobat Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:58:01 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Thursday, 5 March, 1998 16:00, Nic Plum [SMTP:nic@nplum.demon.co.uk] wrote: > > If you are on a network you only need share the one physical copy > (license) of DISTILLER between you - i.e. everyone can connect to the > single copy and use Distiller as an electronic print server. You don't > therefore need to buy umpteen copies of Distiller to create Acrobat > documents from postscript. If I may quote from a correspondence currently running in the Adobe forums on Compuserve (and I am only quoting, I have not seem the proof): Just received from Adobe a "clarification" of the Distiller license terms. As clarified, it appears that you must have one license per "user" of Distiller. That seems fair enough. But by "user" they mean anybody who invokes Distiller directly or indirectly. That is, if you fire up Distiller, there's no question who the user is. But if you drop PS into a Distiller watched folder, you're also a user, though you may never have seen the Distiller interface or even know where it's running. You're using it indirectly. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Mar-1998 17:17:27-GMT,3830;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17329 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:17:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA13544; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:45:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:42:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA13317; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:41:59 -0600 Message-ID: <002b01bd4850$96ec6420$1f40dec2@nplum.demon.co.uk> From: Nic Plum To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at post.mail.demon.net Subject: Re: [PDF] ?Word97 macro needs Acrobat Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:59:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 You're right - Word 97 doesn't need Acrobat to produce postscript. I does however need Distiller if you want to turn the postscript with embedded pdfmark code into Acrobat documents! If you are on a network you only need share the one physical copy (license) of DISTILLER between you - i.e. everyone can connect to the single copy and use Distiller as an electronic print server. You don't therefore need to buy umpteen copies of Distiller to create Acrobat documents from postscript. Nic. ================================================================= Buckden, < www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/ > Huntingdon, For information management and Cambs, Adobe Acrobat integration from UK. within your favourite PE18 9SZ wordprocessor -----Original Message----- From: Arnoud Jippes To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: 05 March 1998 15:51 Subject: [PDF] ?Word97 macro needs Acrobat > >It seems the Word97 macro by Adobe (to convert hyperlinks, make >bookmarks, etc.) needs the Acrobat package installed. I can see a >possible commercial interest here, but surely the macro doesn't >*really* need Acrobat to produce a PostScript file with the PDF >meta-codes, does it? > >If not, does someone know an easy way to install the macro without an >Acrobat package present? I would like to recieve enhanced PostScript >files from our Word97 users to archive in PDF, but I can't expect them >all to buy the Acrobat package... > >With kind regards, > > Arnoud Jippes. > (http://www.ub.utwente.nl/webdoc/docs/) > >------------------------------- >Arnoud G. Jippes >University of Twente Library/IT >Postbus 217, 7500 AE, Enschede >tel:(+31-534)894116, fax:351805 >email: a.g.jippes@ub.utwente.nl >------------------------------- >Arnoud G. Jippes >University of Twente Library/IT >Postbus 217, 7500 AE, Enschede >tel: +31-534894116, fax: +31-534351805 >email: a.g.jippes@ub.utwente.nl >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- ----+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- ----+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Mar-1998 19:03:31-GMT,2346;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA20562 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:03:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA18685; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:40:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:37:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18579; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:37:15 -0600 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19980305183644.0030cf44@axe.humboldt.edu> X-Sender: cea7002@axe.humboldt.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 10:36:44 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Ed Albert Subject: [PDF] Auto insertion of bookmarks ... Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Got a large PDF file of 7,000+ pages off of a COBOL program, that are of a tabular accounting format that needs to be bookmarked. A text to PDF conversion utility (PDF Writer) is used to create the file after artifically inserting form feeds prior to the first line of each header to insure a break is done at the correct point as the generated print is not blocked out to a standard page size (using A3 paper in landscape). All of this works fine.... As the entire document is in just one font (all that is available on the originating system) using the Compose feature of Bookmarks by Example is useless. So, what I am looking for is another way to auto-load several hundred bookmarks (account numbers), into the document. Is there some plug-in out there that will do this?? I found one utility that supposedly does this, but the $20,000 wanted by the developer is a little out of our budget. Ed Out the 10-Base-T, through the router, down the T-1, over the leased line, off the bridge, past the firewall... nothin' but net! +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Mar-1998 19:20:43-GMT,3306;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21057 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:20:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA19917; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:12:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:11:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19849; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:10:58 -0600 Message-Id: <199803051911.LAA02635@db.emuni.com> From: "David M. Davisson" Organization: Pacific Financial Printing To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:09:29 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [PDF] Auto insertion of bookmarks ... In-reply-to: <1.5.4.32.19980305183644.0030cf44@axe.humboldt.edu> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On 5 Mar 98 at 10:36, Ed Albert wrote: I would suggest exporting the pdf file to postscript and inserting pdfmarks. You could script this with something like Perl to parse a text file with two fields of page number references and bookamrk title. Then you could add the pdfmark postscript code and insert it into the psotscript file and distill it again. > > Got a large PDF file of 7,000+ pages off of a COBOL program, that are of a > tabular accounting format that needs to be bookmarked. > > A text to PDF conversion utility (PDF Writer) is used to create the file > after artifically inserting form feeds prior to the first line of each > header to insure a break is done at the correct point as the generated print > is not blocked out to a standard page size (using A3 paper in landscape). All > of this works fine.... > > As the entire document is in just one font (all that is available on the > originating system) using the Compose feature of Bookmarks by Example is > useless. So, what I am looking for is another way to auto-load several > hundred bookmarks (account numbers), into the document. Is there some > plug-in out there that will do this?? I found one utility that supposedly > does this, but the $20,000 wanted by the developer is a little out of our > budget. Ed > > Out the 10-Base-T, through the router, down the T-1, > over the leased line, off the bridge, past the firewall... nothin' but net! > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > --------------------------- David M. Davisson Vice President Technology and Information Systems Pacific Financial Printing 4020 Campbell Avenue Menlo Park, CA 94025 (415) 328-1500 davisson@pfp.net +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Mar-1998 20:17:29-GMT,3256;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22707 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:17:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA21408; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:52:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:50:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA21300; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:50:18 -0600 Message-ID: <51EB8019F06FD11195C100805FD44F804A7DB0@ExchangeMN2.ATK.COM> From: "Mera, Jose" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "'cea7002@axe.humboldt.edu'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Auto insertion of bookmarks ... Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:50:57 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Check out Alliant Techsystems' InfoLinker. I believe it can do what you want in an automated process. E-mail me directly for further info and pricing. Jose Mera Business Area Manager Alliant Techsystems Voice: (813)572-2491 Fax: (813)572-2169 E-mail: jose_mera@atk.com WWW: http://ais.atk.com > ---------- > From: Ed Albert[SMTP:cea7002@axe.humboldt.edu] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 1:36 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Auto insertion of bookmarks ... > > > Got a large PDF file of 7,000+ pages off of a COBOL program, that are > of a > tabular accounting format that needs to be bookmarked. > > A text to PDF conversion utility (PDF Writer) is used to create the > file > after artifically inserting form feeds prior to the first line of each > header to insure a break is done at the correct point as the generated > print > is not blocked out to a standard page size (using A3 paper in > landscape). > All of this works fine.... > > As the entire document is in just one font (all that is available on > the > originating system) using the Compose feature of Bookmarks by Example > is > useless. So, what I am looking for is another way to auto-load > several > hundred bookmarks (account numbers), into the document. Is there some > plug-in out there that will do this?? I found one utility that > supposedly > does this, but the $20,000 wanted by the developer is a little out of > our > budget. > Ed > > Out the 10-Base-T, through the router, down the T-1, > over the leased line, off the bridge, past the firewall... nothin' but > net! > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Mar-1998 20:24:33-GMT,3653;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22951 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:24:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA22545; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:15:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:14:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA22456; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:14:51 -0600 From: JOEL.FINKLE@monsanto.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Auto insertion of bookmarks ... Message-Id: <"0305201340-Re: PDF Auto insertion of bookmarks ..."@MHS> Date: 05 Mar 1998 13:41:00 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Take a look at the technical note 5150, "pdfmark Reference Manual". It shows how you can insert PostScript commands to create bookmarks (outlines) and hyperlinks, as well as just about any other component of a PDF document. Bookmark pdfmarks can be done as a 'batch' at the end of a Postscript document, so a reasonable way to do things would be: 1) Create your text output 2) Pass through a filter program that would generate bookmarks in a separate Postscript file based on the file contents 3) Convert the output to PostScript by printing to a file (rather than using PDFWriter) 4) Concatenate the two PostSCript files 5) Use Distiller to produce a PDF document It's a little tricky, but not too bad. Joel Finkle ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: [PDF] Auto insertion of bookmarks ... Author: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com at INTERNET Date: 3/5/98 1:01 PM Got a large PDF file of 7,000+ pages off of a COBOL program, that are of a tabular accounting format that needs to be bookmarked. A text to PDF conversion utility (PDF Writer) is used to create the file after artifically inserting form feeds prior to the first line of each header to insure a break is done at the correct point as the generated print is not blocked out to a standard page size (using A3 paper in landscape). All of this works fine.... As the entire document is in just one font (all that is available on the originating system) using the Compose feature of Bookmarks by Example is useless. So, what I am looking for is another way to auto-load several hundred bookmarks (account numbers), into the document. Is there some plug-in out there that will do this?? I found one utility that supposedly does this, but the $20,000 wanted by the developer is a little out of our budget. Ed Out the 10-Base-T, through the router, down the T-1, over the leased line, off the bridge, past the firewall... nothin' but net! +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Mar-1998 20:27:20-GMT,1685;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23008 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:27:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA22729; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:19:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:18:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA22678; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:18:42 -0600 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 98 14:14:03 CST Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" From: "Kavita Robinson" Subject: [PDF] Links in word 95 not live in PDF X-Incognito-SN: 599 X-Incognito-Version: 4.11.23 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am trying to convert a manual created in word 95 to PDF. Since PDFMaker doesnot work with Word 95, I opened the document in Word 97. Then i used PDFMaker and Distiller to convert the document to PDF. But the links in Table of Contents are not live. What am i doing work? Is there a different process i have to follow for the links to work? TIA Kavita Robinson +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Mar-1998 21:47:05-GMT,4373;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25024 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:47:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA25116; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:19:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:15:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA24961; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:15:21 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD4846.C1EA24A0@hti164.infohwy.com> From: Ron Culp To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Button Problems Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:55:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD4846.C1EA24A0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD4846.C1EA24A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So....... while rushing to meet this deadline, I recreate a new master = menu in PhotoShop, distill and convert it. Then open the original (which = contains 28 buttons - and there in lies the rub). I replace the old menu = with the new one and VOILA all the buttons are now sideways!!!!! Help!!!!!! 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Among these are: 1. The automatic heading numbering (1.1, 1.1.1, etc.) created in Word does not translate to the PDF bookmarks. We decided that that was okay since the numbers used up too much space of a small bookmark window. 2. PDFMaker uses the Word-generated page numbers to create links. Since the page numbers did not relate to the PDF file pages, I removed the numbers by changing the tab leader to none and later changed the page numbers to a white fill. To change only the color, use the ALT key to select the column which contains the numbers and include the paragraph marks. You can then format the number independently of the rest of the Table of Contents. > -----Original Message----- > From: Kavita Robinson [SMTP:krobinson@eagle.org] > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 12:14 PM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: [PDF] Links in word 95 not live in PDF > > > > I am trying to convert a manual created in word 95 to PDF. Since > PDFMaker > doesnot work with Word 95, > I opened the document in Word 97. Then i used PDFMaker and Distiller > to > convert the document to PDF. > > But the links in Table of Contents are not live. > > What am i doing work? Is there a different process i have to follow > for the > links to work? > > TIA > > Kavita Robinson > > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Mar-1998 21:49:02-GMT,2309;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25051 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:49:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA25825; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:34:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:32:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA25624; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:32:06 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Johnston,Randy" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Links in word 95 not live in PDF Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:33:07 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Kavita, I don't use TOCs, but I found when I converted from Word 95 to Word 97, I had to reestablish all my links before PDFMaker would recognize them. You may have to recreate your TOC. Randy Johnston State of the Art, Inc. I am trying to convert a manual created in word 95 to PDF. Since PDFMaker doesnot work with Word 95, I opened the document in Word 97. Then i used PDFMaker and Distiller to convert the document to PDF. But the links in Table of Contents are not live. What am i doing work? Is there a different process i have to follow for the links to work? TIA Kavita Robinson +---------------------------------------------------------------------- --+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +---------------------------------------------------------------------- --+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Mar-1998 21:49:39-GMT,5263;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25088 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:49:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA25965; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:36:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:34:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA25765; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:34:08 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD4849.583DCEA0@hti140.infohwy.com> From: Ron Culp To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: FW: [PDF] Button Problems Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:14:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD4849.58456FC0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD4849.58456FC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I realized after I wrote the note that I printed in the wrong = orientation. Rumor has it, I am a moron. Sorry to have wasted your time. Ron -----Original Message----- From: Ron Culp [SMTP:rfculp2@infohwy.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 2:55 PM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: [PDF] Button Problems So....... while rushing to meet this deadline, I recreate a new master = menu in PhotoShop, distill and convert it. Then open the original (which = contains 28 buttons - and there in lies the rub). I replace the old menu = with the new one and VOILA all the buttons are now sideways!!!!! Help!!!!!! 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It only has room = for one name to be stored in the PDF file. You'd need a custom plug-in. On Thursday, 5 March, 1998 14:13, Ron Culp [SMTP:rfculp2@infohwy.com] = wrote: > I need some quick help please. >=20 > The dialog box only allows me to set one index for opening with the = page. Any way to load multiple indices when a page opens? 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X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi People! My PDF trouble of the day: This suddenly started occurring yesterday. When printing to the PDFWriter out of Netscape 3.4 _and_ 4.0 the resulting PDF is entirely black (and rather garbled). Everything is black... even the color images, web navbuttons, etc. I have dug through both the pdfwriter's preferences as well as Netscape's. Everything is either set to "default" or exactly the way it was set a couple days ago when web pages printed to PDF just fine. Regarding my earlier troubles with people sending me various flavors of postscript stuff, due to time constraints (1 week deadline!) I now take the .ps or .eps file and drag and drop it onto Distiller. If the resulting PDF looks good, then I include it in my CD. The ones that dont (ie. producing a column of text on the far-right of the PDF, or ending up as a "Terminal" or "System" type font), get deleted and sent back to the respective manufacturers. Just thought I'd let yall know, since a few people did try and help me. :) In Phi, John +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Mar-1998 22:33:47-GMT,1820;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA26215 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:33:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA27010; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:04:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:02:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA26889; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:02:21 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980305140743.006b3eb8@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 14:07:43 -0800 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: [PDF] Collapse bookmarks on open? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Has anyone come across a way (preferably with pdfmarks) to have the bookmarks of a document be collapsed whenever the pdf is opened? I searched through the pdfmark Reference Manual (TN#5150) and the Portable Document Reference Manual v. 1.2. Using Frame 5.1.2 -> Acrobat 3.0.1 on Win95. --------------------------- Scott Hamlow Technical Writer Endura Software Corporation Seattle, Washington USA http://www.enduracorp.com scott.hamlow@enduracorp.com 206.517.6487 --------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Mar-1998 22:35:20-GMT,4906;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA26252 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:35:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA27566; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:15:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:12:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA27475; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:12:35 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD4883.CA8E9720.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: Multiple Indices Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:05:04 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD4883.CA963840" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD4883.CA963840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I haven't heard of it, but it might. Aandi On Thursday, 5 March, 1998 20:53, Ron Culp [SMTP:rfculp2@infohwy.com] wrote: > And does this plug-in currently exist? > This can't be done with the standard AutoIndex plug-in. It only has room for one name to > be stored in the PDF file. You'd need a custom plug-in. > > > The dialog box only allows me to set one index for opening with the page. Any way to load multiple indices when a page opens? 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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:54:37 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id QAA29070 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Scott, The /Count key for the OUT pdfmark determines whether the bookmarks are open or collapsed. [/Count -3 / Page # /View [FitB] /Title (Xxxxxxx) /OUT pdfmark If /Count is a positive number, the subordinate bookmarks will display upon opening. PDFMARK Reference Manual section 4.2 will give you additional information. Randy Johnston State of the Art, Inc. Has anyone come across a way (preferably with pdfmarks) to have the bookmarks of a document be collapsed whenever the pdf is opened? I searched through the pdfmark Reference Manual (TN#5150) and the Portable Document Reference Manual v. 1.2. Using Frame 5.1.2 -> Acrobat 3.0.1 on Win95. --------------------------- Scott Hamlow Technical Writer Endura Software Corporation Seattle, Washington USA http://www.enduracorp.com scott.hamlow@enduracorp.com 206.517.6487 --------------------------- +---------------------------------------------------------------------- --+ · PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + · Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +---------------------------------------------------------------------- --+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 5-Mar-1998 23:26:46-GMT,2700;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA27537 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:26:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA29432; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:01:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:00:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA29377; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:00:21 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD488A.A7B537C0.davec@docctrl.com> From: David Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Links in word 95 not live in PDF Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:50:05 -0000 Organization: Computerised Document Control Ltd X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We are currently working on Office '95 compatibility for Local Render. Should be available around the end of the month. For more info check out www.docctrl.com drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat -----Original Message----- From: Kavita Robinson [SMTP:krobinson@eagle.org] Sent: 05 March 1998 20:14 To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: [PDF] Links in word 95 not live in PDF I am trying to convert a manual created in word 95 to PDF. Since PDFMaker doesnot work with Word 95, I opened the document in Word 97. Then i used PDFMaker and Distiller to convert the document to PDF. But the links in Table of Contents are not live. What am i doing work? Is there a different process i have to follow for the links to work? TIA Kavita Robinson +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Mar-1998 0:39:32-GMT,2244;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA29301 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:39:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA32604; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:13:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:11:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA32528; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:11:22 -0600 X-Sender: gcosimin@mail-345 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <"0305201340-Re: PDF Auto insertion of bookmarks ..."@MHS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:01:52 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Gary Cosimini Subject: Re: [PDF] Auto insertion of bookmarks ... Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Take a look at the technical note 5150, "pdfmark Reference Manual". > It shows how you can insert PostScript commands to create bookmarks > (outlines) and hyperlinks, as well as just about any other component > of a PDF document. > > Bookmark pdfmarks can be done as a 'batch' at the end of a Postscript > document, so a reasonable way to do things would be: > > 1) Create your text output > 2) Pass through a filter program that would generate bookmarks in a > separate Postscript file based on the file contents > 3) Convert the output to PostScript by printing to a file (rather than > using PDFWriter) > 4) Concatenate the two PostSCript files > 5) Use Distiller to produce a PDF document > > It's a little tricky, but not too bad. Hint: using Excel as a formatter for these "pdfmarks" makes generating them a straightforward process. Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Mar-1998 0:41:01-GMT,2207;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA29346 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:40:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA00182; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:21:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:20:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA00119; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:20:19 -0600 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E0FFC@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] PDFHotlinks Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:19:27 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Good morning all, As you would know, we maintain a list of 'PDFHotlinks' on our website http://www.roundtable.com.au/ which links to other sites containing PDF information/resources. We have recently added a ratings facility which dynamically re-orders the list of hotlinks based upon 'votes' supplied by our site users. I invite users of this list to reorder our PDFHotlinks by clicking on the vote buttons. At present we monitor the IP address of those submitting the votes to prevent vote stacking, however we will be adding a 'comment' for each vote in the near future. These comments will be accessible to our site visitors. I welcome comments regarding this facility to me privately and those who are unaware of this resource may also like to add a Hotlink to their site. Thank you very much, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions - PDF double sided printing with RTSDuplex http://www.roundtable.com.au +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Mar-1998 2:41:33-GMT,3859;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA02179 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:41:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA04616; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:13:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:09:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA04469; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:09:50 -0600 Message-Id: From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: "'Post to PDF listserve'" Subject: FW: [PDF] Document Management Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:10:00 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Meant to post to list... ---------- From: Callaway, Rebecca To: WBren@gre-ins.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Document Management Date: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 3:03PM Just another note on this topic - All of the doc. management pieces mentioned so far are fine. But we've been looking at one more that seems to offer something quite different. It's called IntraDoc, and what it does is "check in" and "check out" documents from a database, and allows not only PDF on the fly upon check in, but immediate availability in a metadata- and full-text searchable browswer interface. It's very cool. All the administration can be done on a remote machine - the only requirement right now is NS 4 or IE 4 for the Java enabling. You can set up searchable libraries in just about real time by executing queries to the database that produces on icon on the browswer interface that contains all instances of the query result, such as all technical manuals for the F-16. Anyone who has a browser can "mine" this information. No clients to purchase!! Anyway, it seems like something that you can get up and running pretty quick out of the box, without a lot of long faces and sighs from I.S. rebecca ---------- From: WBren@gre-ins.com To: PDF-L@emrg.com; Marc.MEDJAD@st.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Document Management Date: Thursday, February 26, 1998 8:29AM Marc, We haven't used it here at GRE, but I believe Documentum has something exactly like you are describing. Wes ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: [PDF] Document Management Author: Marc.MEDJAD@st.com at iegate Date: 2/26/98 4:53 PM I would like to setup a document management system which would deliver PDF files from different sources of documents (FrameMaker, Quark,..) Does anybody have some experience in this area and succeded in implementing such a system in his company? What are the best tools ? Marc Medjad +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Mar-1998 4:19:37-GMT,1724;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA04332 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:19:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA07987; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:50:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:49:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA07920; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:49:05 -0600 Message-ID: <34FF721E.DFD9649D@netnet.net> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 21:48:47 -0600 From: "Dane S. Udenberg" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Acrobuddies Chat Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 AcroBuddies website has added a PDF chatroom called "AcroCHAT", to let all the Acrobat users/developers have a place to "commune" live. It's open all the time, but I've set a "rendezvous" time of 12:00 pm ct U.S. (1800 GMT) when we can all get together to discuss problems, issues, etc. online. Here's the URL in case you want to join us. http://www.mari.net/~dane/acrochat.htm See you online. Dane Udenberg AcroBuddies http://www.mari.net/~dane/acrobuds.htm +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Mar-1998 7:00:04-GMT,4822;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA07682 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 00:00:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA12482; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 00:30:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Mar 1998 00:28:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA12388; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 00:28:37 -0600 Message-ID: <34FF977E.DB53AC07@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 01:28:14 -0500 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digitasl Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: FW: [PDF] Document Management References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id AAA12385 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 What's the URL for this app? TIA Bob Moran Callaway, Rebecca wrote: > Meant to post to list... > ---------- > From: Callaway, Rebecca > To: WBren@gre-ins.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Document Management > Date: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 3:03PM > > Just another note on this topic - > > All of the doc. management pieces mentioned so far are fine. But we've > been looking at one more that seems to offer something quite different. > It's called IntraDoc, and what it does is "check in" and "check out" > documents from a database, and allows not only PDF on the fly upon check > in, but immediate availability in a metadata- and full-text searchable > browswer interface. It's very cool. All the administration can be done > on a remote machine - the only requirement right now is NS 4 or IE 4 for > the Java enabling. You can set up searchable libraries in just about > real time by executing queries to the database that produces on icon on > the browswer interface that contains all instances of the query result, > such as all technical manuals for the F-16. Anyone who has a browser > can "mine" this information. No clients to purchase!! > > Anyway, it seems like something that you can get up and running pretty > quick out of the box, without a lot of long faces and sighs from I.S. > > rebecca > ---------- > From: WBren@gre-ins.com > To: PDF-L@emrg.com; Marc.MEDJAD@st.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Document Management > Date: Thursday, February 26, 1998 8:29AM > > Marc, > > We haven't used it here at GRE, but I believe Documentum has > something > exactly like you are describing. > > Wes > > ______________________________ Reply Separator > _________________________________ > Subject: [PDF] Document Management > Author: Marc.MEDJAD@st.com at iegate > Date: 2/26/98 4:53 PM > > I would like to setup a document management system > which would deliver PDF files from different sources > of documents (FrameMaker, Quark,..) > > Does anybody have some experience in this area > and succeded in implementing such a system in his company? > What are the best tools ? > > Marc Medjad > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------- > -+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html > + > +----------------------------------------------------------------------- > -+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------- > -+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html > + > +----------------------------------------------------------------------- > -+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Mar-1998 9:16:09-GMT,4071;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA10498 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 02:16:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA15631; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 02:41:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Mar 1998 02:40:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA15600; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 02:40:44 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD48DB.CDCC5500.davec@docctrl.com> From: David Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Links in word 95 not live in PDF Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 23:05:38 -0000 Organization: Computerised Document Control Ltd X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 You may wish to try Local Render. More information from our Web Site: www.docctrl.com I don't promise that it fixes your issues but you shouldn't have to struggle. ;-) drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat -----Original Message----- From: Goldin, Susan [SMTP:SG@dolby.com] Sent: 05 March 1998 21:23 To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] Links in word 95 not live in PDF I have been struggling with PDFMaker for a number of months and have documented a number of "anomolies" (using the BIG word for bug). Among these are: 1. The automatic heading numbering (1.1, 1.1.1, etc.) created in Word does not translate to the PDF bookmarks. We decided that that was okay since the numbers used up too much space of a small bookmark window. 2. PDFMaker uses the Word-generated page numbers to create links. Since the page numbers did not relate to the PDF file pages, I removed the numbers by changing the tab leader to none and later changed the page numbers to a white fill. To change only the color, use the ALT key to select the column which contains the numbers and include the paragraph marks. You can then format the number independently of the rest of the Table of Contents. > -----Original Message----- > From: Kavita Robinson [SMTP:krobinson@eagle.org] > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 12:14 PM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: [PDF] Links in word 95 not live in PDF > > > > I am trying to convert a manual created in word 95 to PDF. Since > PDFMaker > doesnot work with Word 95, > I opened the document in Word 97. Then i used PDFMaker and Distiller > to > convert the document to PDF. > > But the links in Table of Contents are not live. > > What am i doing work? Is there a different process i have to follow > for the > links to work? > > TIA > > Kavita Robinson > > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Mar-1998 9:18:40-GMT,2470;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA10548 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 02:18:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA16302; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 03:08:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Mar 1998 03:07:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA16245; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 03:07:47 -0600 >Received: from amg-uucp.amg.de by amg.de with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0yAst9-000LW9C; Fri, 6 Mar 98 09:53 MET Message-ID: <34FFB8E9.CCA25326@amg.de> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 09:50:50 +0100 From: Nadya Gobran X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Fonts looking really bad in PDF Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi everybody, I have to translate a lot of documents from word 97 on windows 95 to PDF. While I'm doing that I experienced that the fonts look really bad (I think blurry is the right word for that, not sharp) at a Monitor Resolution 800 x 600. I have Exchange 3.01 and I'm using distiler 3.02 with a HP Printer Driver. As I have learned the HP Printer Drivers are really bad, so I have tried to use the Adobe PS driver from their Exchange CD. But this Printer Driver has problems with customized pages in Word, so I'm not able to translate the documents into PDF?? First Question: Are you beware of any better printer drivers who support custom colors?? If yes, can you send them to me or give me an URL for download??? Second Question: Are there any Settings in distiller, who will optimize the font look??? As I have to do tons of documents, I would appreaciate your help. Thanks you very much -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen i.A. Nadya Gobran AMG Industrie Consulting GmbH Phone: (49) 2 31 / 97 53 54 - 0 Fax: (49) 2 31 / 97 53 54 - 55 E-Mail: nago@amg.de +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Mar-1998 9:26:54-GMT,2602;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA10727 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 02:26:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA15559; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 02:39:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Mar 1998 02:38:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA15520; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 02:38:11 -0600 Message-Id: <199803060838.AA20056@driene.student.utwente.nl> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Arnoud Jippes" Organization: University of Twente To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:40:30 +0100 Subject: Re: [PDF] ?Word97 macro needs Acrobat In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Just received from Adobe a "clarification" of the Distiller > license terms. As clarified, it appears that you must have one > license per "user" of Distiller. That seems fair enough. But by > "user" they mean anybody who invokes Distiller directly or > indirectly. OK. Thanks for the clarification. I did ask them this about a year ago, but never got an answer... Before you think we are doing something illegal: our university library is not using a public Distiller folder. I am the only user of our Acrobat package. Researchers submit their document to us in PostScript to archive. We made PS the submition standard because everyone should be able to make it (for free). Most users do only one submition (their thesis), so we can't expect them to buy Acrobat. So I'm still very interested in a way to install the Word97 Adobe macro without the need for Arobat itself. Please, send me your solutions (if any), you're not aiding a criminal ;) Regards, Arnoud Jippes. (http://www.ub.utwente.nl/webdoc/submit/) ------------------------------- Arnoud G. Jippes University of Twente Library/IT Postbus 217, 7500 AE, Enschede tel: +31-534894116, fax: +31-534351805 email: a.g.jippes@ub.utwente.nl +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Mar-1998 10:50:10-GMT,3610;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA12454 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 03:50:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA18118; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:23:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:20:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA17992; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:20:53 -0600 Message-ID: <008701bd48e9$15b05760$1f40dec2@nplum.demon.co.uk> From: Nic Plum To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at post.mail.demon.net Subject: [PDF] Re: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:47:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 You don't say what platform or OS you're using but if it is Windows 95 or similar have you tried setting/unsetting the "print background colour/image" within the Internet options and then seeing what happens? It may not cure the problem but it might help identify where it is coming from. Nic. ================================================================= Buckden, < www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/ > Huntingdon, For information management and Cambs, Adobe Acrobat integration from UK. within your favourite PE18 9SZ wordprocessor -----Original Message----- From: John Noe To: 'PDF Discussion Group' Date: 05 March 1998 22:27 > > >Hi People! > >My PDF trouble of the day: > >This suddenly started occurring yesterday. >When printing to the PDFWriter out of Netscape 3.4 _and_ 4.0 >the resulting PDF is entirely black (and rather garbled). >Everything is black... even the color images, web navbuttons, etc. > >I have dug through both the pdfwriter's preferences as well as Netscape's. >Everything is either set to "default" or exactly the way it was set >a couple days ago when web pages printed to PDF just fine. > >Regarding my earlier troubles with people sending me various flavors of postscript >stuff, due to time constraints (1 week deadline!) I now take the .ps or .eps >file and drag and drop it onto Distiller. If the resulting PDF looks good, >then I include it in my CD. The ones that dont (ie. producing a column of text on >the far-right of the PDF, or ending up as a "Terminal" or "System" type font), >get deleted and sent back to the respective manufacturers. >Just thought I'd let yall know, since a few people did try and help me. :) > >In Phi, > >John > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- ----+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- ----+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Mar-1998 10:52:22-GMT,4066;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA12469 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 03:52:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA18119; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:23:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:22:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA18045; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:22:51 -0600 Message-ID: <008d01bd48e9$1e65a680$1f40dec2@nplum.demon.co.uk> From: Nic Plum To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at post.mail.demon.net Subject: Re: [PDF] ?Word97 macro needs Acrobat Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:13:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Regarding the license for Distiller does this mean a license for anyone connected to a public folder of Distiller or does this mean a license for each concurrent user? If it is the former it sounds as though Adobe are climbing on the bandwagon recently proposed by Microsoft i.e. 1 license per person (rather than concurrent). When did this change? I last spoke to Adobe just before Christmas and then I was advised that it was one license per workgroup (for Distiller). Nic. ================================================================= Buckden, < www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/ > Huntingdon, For information management and Cambs, Adobe Acrobat integration from UK. within your favourite PE18 9SZ wordprocessor -----Original Message----- From: Arnoud Jippes To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: 06 March 1998 09:23 Subject: Re: [PDF] ?Word97 macro needs Acrobat > >> Just received from Adobe a "clarification" of the Distiller >> license terms. As clarified, it appears that you must have one >> license per "user" of Distiller. That seems fair enough. But by >> "user" they mean anybody who invokes Distiller directly or >> indirectly. > >OK. Thanks for the clarification. I did ask them this about a year >ago, but never got an answer... > >Before you think we are doing something illegal: our university >library is not using a public Distiller folder. I am the only user >of our Acrobat package. Researchers submit their document to us in >PostScript to archive. We made PS the submition standard because >everyone should be able to make it (for free). Most users do only >one submition (their thesis), so we can't expect them to buy Acrobat. > >So I'm still very interested in a way to install the Word97 Adobe >macro without the need for Arobat itself. Please, send me your >solutions (if any), you're not aiding a criminal ;) > >Regards, > > Arnoud Jippes. > (http://www.ub.utwente.nl/webdoc/submit/) >------------------------------- >Arnoud G. Jippes >University of Twente Library/IT >Postbus 217, 7500 AE, Enschede >tel: +31-534894116, fax: +31-534351805 >email: a.g.jippes@ub.utwente.nl >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- ----+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- ----+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Mar-1998 12:00:44-GMT,4649;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA13693 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 05:00:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA19588; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 05:11:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Mar 1998 05:10:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA19538; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 05:10:07 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD48F0.613BC5A0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] ?Word97 macro needs Acrobat Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:07:11 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I don't know what/when/whether it changed - I can only report what I saw... it is interesting... It's hard to define concurrent user with Distiller and watched folders since it will only do one file at a time... Aandi On Friday, 6 March, 1998 10:14, Nic Plum [SMTP:nic@nplum.demon.co.uk] wrote: > > Regarding the license for Distiller does this mean a license for > anyone connected to a public folder of Distiller or does this mean a > license for each concurrent user? > > If it is the former it sounds as though Adobe are climbing on the > bandwagon recently proposed by Microsoft i.e. 1 license per person > (rather than concurrent). > > When did this change? I last spoke to Adobe just before Christmas and > then I was advised that it was one license per workgroup (for > Distiller). > > Nic. > ================================================================= > Buckden, < www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/ > > Huntingdon, For information management and > Cambs, Adobe Acrobat integration from > UK. within your favourite > PE18 9SZ wordprocessor > -----Original Message----- > From: Arnoud Jippes > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Date: 06 March 1998 09:23 > Subject: Re: [PDF] ?Word97 macro needs Acrobat > > > > > >> Just received from Adobe a "clarification" of the Distiller > >> license terms. As clarified, it appears that you must have one > >> license per "user" of Distiller. That seems fair enough. But by > >> "user" they mean anybody who invokes Distiller directly or > >> indirectly. > > > >OK. Thanks for the clarification. I did ask them this about a year > >ago, but never got an answer... > > > >Before you think we are doing something illegal: our university > >library is not using a public Distiller folder. I am the only user > >of our Acrobat package. Researchers submit their document to us in > >PostScript to archive. We made PS the submition standard because > >everyone should be able to make it (for free). Most users do only > >one submition (their thesis), so we can't expect them to buy Acrobat. > > > >So I'm still very interested in a way to install the Word97 Adobe > >macro without the need for Arobat itself. Please, send me your > >solutions (if any), you're not aiding a criminal ;) > > > >Regards, > > > > Arnoud Jippes. > > (http://www.ub.utwente.nl/webdoc/submit/) > >------------------------------- > >Arnoud G. Jippes > >University of Twente Library/IT > >Postbus 217, 7500 AE, Enschede > >tel: +31-534894116, fax: +31-534351805 > >email: a.g.jippes@ub.utwente.nl > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----+ > >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----+ > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Mar-1998 14:50:46-GMT,1592;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17058 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:50:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA25810; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:25:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:24:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA25736; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:24:54 -0600 Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:24:00 -0500 From: "Steven M. Aparicio" Subject: [PDF] Fonts looking really bad in PDF To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199803060925_MC2-35BC-1DD3@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA25733 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Nadya, As to your second question, under file>preferences>general, make sure that the "Smooth Text and monochrome images" is not checked. This should clear up the fuzzy font issue. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Mar-1998 14:50:52-GMT,1733;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17062 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:50:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA25651; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:23:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:21:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA25536; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:21:01 -0600 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: <412565BF.004ED507.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 15:21:04 +0100 Subject: [PDF] bug in distiller 3.02 ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, I think I found a bug in distiller 3.02. When I distill the same PS-File with Distiller 3.0 and Distiller 3.02 some characters in the PDF from Distiller 3.02 dissapeared but the PDF from Distiller 3.0 is correct. I've read that characters can be lost if a PS-substitution-font for a TrueTypeFont is generated while generating the PS-File. But the PS-File must be correct, otherwise I would have the same problems with Distiller 3.0. What have I done wrong? Regards, Laura Dietz (Mannesmann Arcor) +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Mar-1998 16:52:51-GMT,4420;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20063 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:52:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA31988; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:35:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:34:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA31892; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:34:36 -0600 Message-ID: <009001bd491e$118690c0$8103a8c0@olympus.pr.mcs.net> From: "Jeremy Treister" To: "PDF" Subject: [PDF] Problems setting Open Info for PDF's Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:36:22 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0084_01BD48EB.B490E0F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01BD48EB.B490E0F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am having a problem getting all my PDF files to truly open in "Fit = Page" mode. As part of my CD product, I have 20 PDF files that are = almost identical, but 1/3 of them will not open the full size of the = Exchange or Reader window. Does anyone have advice? What about a batch = process? =20 I have verified that all the PDF files are set to: File>Document Info>Open> Initial View: "Bookmarks and Page" Magnification: "Fit Page" Page Layout: "Single Page" =20 I have done an additional "Save As" with optimization for each file = after I verify the settings. I use Acrobat Exchange 3.01 for Windows NT. =20 Thanks Jeremy Treister Sensorium Software, Inc. Visual Business Management e jtreister@SensoriumSoftware.com v 312.786.1330.515 f 312.786.1324 ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01BD48EB.B490E0F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am having a problem getting all my PDF = files to truly=20 open in "Fit Page" mode. As part of my CD product, I have 20 = PDF files=20 that are almost identical, but 1/3 of them will not open the full size = of the=20 Exchange or Reader window. Does anyone have advice? What about a batch=20 process?
 
I have verified that all the PDF files are set to:
 
File>Document = Info>Open>
Initial View:
"Bookmarks and Page"
Magnification: "Fit = Page"
Page Layout: "Single = Page"
 
I have done an additional "Save As" = with=20 optimization for each file after I verify the settings.
I use Acrobat Exchange 3.01 for Windows=20 NT.
 
Thanks
 
Jeremy Treister
 Sensorium Software,=20 Inc.
  Visual Business Management
e jtreister@SensoriumSoftwa= re.com
 v=20 312.786.1330.515
  f 312.786.1324
------=_NextPart_000_0084_01BD48EB.B490E0F0-- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Mar-1998 16:52:49-GMT,3882;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20058 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:52:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA31982; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:35:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:34:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA31846; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:33:59 -0600 Message-ID: <008001bd491d$fbc2aa80$8103a8c0@olympus.pr.mcs.net> From: "Jeremy Treister" To: Subject: [PDF] Problems setting Open Info for PDF's Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:35:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0078_01BD48EB.9EEE6560" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01BD48EB.9EEE6560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am having a problem getting all my PDF files to truly open in "Fit = Page" mode. As part of my CD product, I have 20 PDF files that are = almost identical, but 1/3 of them will not open the full size of the = Exchange or Reader window. Does anyone have advice? What about a batch = process? I have verified that all the PDF files are set to: File>Document Info>Open> Initial View: "Bookmarks and Page" Magnification: "Fit Page" Page Layout: "Single Page" I have done an additional "Save As" with optimization for each file = after I verify the settings. I use Acrobat Exchange 3.01 for Windows NT. Thanks ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01BD48EB.9EEE6560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am having a problem getting all my PDF = files to truly=20 open in "Fit Page" mode. As part of my CD product, I have 20 = PDF files=20 that are almost identical, but 1/3 of them will not open the full size = of the=20 Exchange or Reader window. Does anyone have advice? What about a batch=20 process?
 
I have verified that all the PDF files are set to:
 
File>Document = Info>Open>
Initial View:
"Bookmarks and Page"
Magnification: "Fit = Page"
Page Layout: "Single = Page"
 
I have done an additional "Save As" = with=20 optimization for each file after I verify the settings.
I use Acrobat Exchange 3.01 for Windows=20 NT.
 
Thanks
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Paknad" Organization: Glyphica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Problems setting Open Info for PDF's References: <009001bd491e$118690c0$8103a8c0@olympus.pr.mcs.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Did you verify that your bookmark properties are also Fit Page? If you are getting to the problem pages via a bookmark, they will open the way the bookmark defines the link -- which is not Fit Page by default -- and regardless of the Open properties. Just a thought ... Deidre Paknad ........................................... Glyphica Acrobat & Web Publishing http://www.glyphica.com PurePDF: The Acrobat Info Source on the Web http://www.PurePDF.com ........................................... Jeremy Treister wrote: > I am having a problem getting all my PDF files to truly open in "Fit > Page" mode. As part of my CD product, I have 20 PDF files that are > almost identical, but 1/3 of them will not open the full size of the > Exchange or Reader window. Does anyone have advice? What about a batch > process? I have verified that all the PDF files are set > to: File>Document Info>Open>Initial View:"Bookmarks and > Page"Magnification: "Fit Page"Page Layout: "Single Page" +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Mar-1998 17:59:20-GMT,5424;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21835 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:59:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA02372; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:43:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:42:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02273; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:42:06 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD48E4.74D37380@istk-port533.jps.net> From: Karl Schmidtmann To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Problems setting Open Info for PDF's Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:44:25 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD48E4.74DC9B40" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD48E4.74DC9B40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeremy: Ambia's Compose has a tool which will set your file open preferences in = batch mode. More information about Compose can be found on our Web site = (www.ambia.com). Or, give me a call directly. Karl Schmidtmann Ambia kschmidt@ambia.com 707-829-7500 ---------- From: Jeremy Treister[SMTP:jtreister@SensoriumSoftware.com] Sent: Friday, March 06, 1998 8:35 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Problems setting Open Info for PDF's I am having a problem getting all my PDF files to truly open in "Fit = Page" mode. As part of my CD product, I have 20 PDF files that are = almost identical, but 1/3 of them will not open the full size of the = Exchange or Reader window. Does anyone have advice? What about a batch = process? I have verified that all the PDF files are set to: File>Document Info>Open> Initial View: "Bookmarks and Page" Magnification: "Fit Page" Page Layout: "Single Page" I have done an additional "Save As" with optimization for each file = after I verify the settings. I use Acrobat Exchange 3.01 for Windows NT. 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I have checked that all links and bookmarks are properly set. Thank you very much. Jeremy Treister Sensorium Software, Inc. Visual Business Management e jtreister@SensoriumSoftware.com v 312.786.1330.515 f 312.786.1324 -----Original Message----- From: D. Paknad To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Friday, March 06, 1998 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [PDF] Problems setting Open Info for PDF's > >Did you verify that your bookmark properties are also Fit Page? >If you are getting to the problem pages via a bookmark, they will >open the way the bookmark defines the link -- which is not Fit Page >by default -- and regardless of the Open properties. > >Just a thought ... >Deidre Paknad >........................................... >Glyphica Acrobat & Web Publishing >http://www.glyphica.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Mar-1998 20:25:40-GMT,2886;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA26284 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:25:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA09044; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:01:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:59:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA08888; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:59:55 -0600 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:00:16 -0600 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] TOC: 3/06/98 Emerge ***EXTRA*** ezine Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ============================================================ V.03, N.07 ***Emerge EXTRA*** is now available on the Web: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/extra30698.html ============================================================ The current issue of our Acrobat PDF newsweekly features: + The IRS TaxDeadline Cometh - Adobe Acrobat May Helpeth * 1998 forms can be downloaded one-by-one, or as one file + Emerge Becomes Reseller for Quite Imposing/Plus Software * UK-based company delivers first-of-kind Exchange plugin + Browsing the Net Offline Using Adobe Acrobat * Downloadable white, yellow and blue page directories + NASA Previews International Space Station in PDF * Virtual space cadets can ride Acrobat to infinite beyond + Commercial Printing mag - 'More Flow, Less Work' * article explores value of pdf to smaller printers + Guide to Human Interaction - 'Actual Reality' Guide * The Onion offers tips for cyberdrones to act human + Recent Reader Feedback * CPA needs help viewing federal tax forms in pdf ... and more. Past issues are available at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/ Subscribe to the email version at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html rgds~Kurt ---> T h e E m e r g e P D F z o n e <--- "Solutions for PDF Professionals" Kurt Foss Internet Communications Manager EMERGE (800)829-2459 | (608)829-3454 x102 579 D'Onofrio Drive FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Mar-1998 20:39:08-GMT,2307;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA26622 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:39:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA10553; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:32:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:30:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10465; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:30:41 -0600 Message-ID: <35005DFD.410C95D4@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 15:35:09 -0500 From: William Mannion Organization: US Filter X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] MS Index X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------0EB4F539E1906D1AAA598B3C" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------0EB4F539E1906D1AAA598B3C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know if Microsoft Index has a plug-in or something to handle PDF? --------------0EB4F539E1906D1AAA598B3C Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for William Mannion Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: William Mannion n: Mannion;William org: US Filter adr: 10 Technology Drive;;;Lowell;MA ;01851;USA email;internet: billmannion@worldnet.att.net title: Webmaster tel;work: 978.934.9349 tel;fax: 978.934.9292 note: www.usfilter.com x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: TRUE end: vcard --------------0EB4F539E1906D1AAA598B3C-- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 6-Mar-1998 21:33:36-GMT,1761;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA28156 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:33:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA12164; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 15:10:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Mar 1998 15:09:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA12064; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 15:09:02 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980306210813.009390c8@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 13:08:13 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] MS Index Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 See: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/acwin.htm for links to the current "production" IFilter and to a newer beta version. Tom Thiersch At 03:35 PM 3/6/98 -0500, you wrote: >Does anyone know if Microsoft Index has a plug-in >or something to handle PDF? >Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Content-Description: Card for William Mannion >Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Mar-1998 3:55:22-GMT,1675;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA09496 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 20:55:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA24295; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 21:28:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Mar 1998 21:26:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA24232; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 21:26:42 -0600 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 21:31:09 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Endre (Andy) J. Kantor" Subject: [PDF] Pagemaker6.5 conversion Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Greetings! I've been having a problem with PDF files I post to our website. I start out with a perfect Pagemaker 6.5 file with Cadd drawings. I then convert the file to PDF with Acrobat Distiller and the cadd drawings get cut off partially. Does anybody have a solution to this problem? I asked Adobe and they told me to set my Distiller printer driver to 2400 dpi. I tried to do this, but the only option I have is 300dpi. Andy +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Mar-1998 10:26:38-GMT,1952;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA17990 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 03:26:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA01335; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 04:11:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 7 Mar 1998 04:08:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA01254; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 04:08:35 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD49B0.FAAF34E0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Pagemaker6.5 conversion Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 08:12:10 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Saturday, 7 March, 1998 03:31, Endre (Andy) J. Kantor [SMTP:akantor@saronix.com] wrote: > I've been having a problem with PDF files I post to our website. I start > out with a perfect Pagemaker 6.5 file with Cadd drawings. I then convert > the file to PDF with Acrobat Distiller and the cadd drawings get cut off > partially. Does anybody have a solution to this problem? I asked Adobe > and they told me to set my Distiller printer driver to 2400 dpi. I tried > to do this, but the only option I have is 300dpi. Check the resolution in Distiller's job options too. Try that lower, or try the Distiller 3.02 upgrade. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Mar-1998 11:45:33-GMT,2731;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA19457 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 04:45:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA02853; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 05:23:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 7 Mar 1998 05:20:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA02749; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 05:20:36 -0600 Message-ID: <35012CF8.F28640E1@fidnet.com> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 05:18:16 -0600 From: "M. Randall Mueller" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Pagemaker6.5 conversion References: <01BD49B0.FAAF34E0.quite@dial.pipex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-UNICODE-2-0-UTF-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Andy, This seems to be page size...when you convert to .ps, make darn sure you are using the correct page size and oriontation is in vertical, set dpi using the distiller PPD but select your printer,this allows for using your printers dpi options. I have found that anytime it's cut off is because of the page size used when making it a .ps file, Randall Aandi Inston wrote: > > On Saturday, 7 March, 1998 03:31, Endre (Andy) J. Kantor [SMTP:akantor@saronix.com] wrote: > > > I've been having a problem with PDF files I post to our website. I start > > out with a perfect Pagemaker 6.5 file with Cadd drawings. I then convert > > the file to PDF with Acrobat Distiller and the cadd drawings get cut off > > partially. Does anybody have a solution to this problem? I asked Adobe > > and they told me to set my Distiller printer driver to 2400 dpi. I tried > > to do this, but the only option I have is 300dpi. > > Check the resolution in Distiller's job options too. Try that lower, or try the > Distiller 3.02 upgrade. > > Aandi > +------------------------------------------------------------------------ > PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html > +------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- mueller@fidnet.com http://whdesign.com WebHeadBookShop - WebTV Talk +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 7-Mar-1998 16:34:34-GMT,3064;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA25742 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 09:34:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA10403; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 10:07:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 7 Mar 1998 10:03:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10090; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 10:03:50 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 10:08:19 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] FYI: EXTRA EXTRA! Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Late-breaking news item ... Since the recent issue of Emerge EXTRA was distributed yesterday, we've made an interesting addition to the web version. I thought some folks here might be interested in checking out the interactive 1040 tax form in PDF, utilizing the functionality of the latest Adobe Acrobat forms tools. If you want to see how tax forms in PDF format really ought to work, have a look at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/extra30698.html#Flash Also, the vowel munchers struck again today, fiendishly hacking a letter out of a couple perfectly fine URLs that at one time (I swear) pointed to a pair of pdf-based guidebooks for Quite Imposing and Imposing Plus software. Having restored the missing character in each, I'll repeat the two links: Quite Imposing Plus Guide - online version http://emerge.pdfzone.com/pdfs/qiplusgd.pdf [448kb] Quite Imposing Plus Guide - printable version http://emerge.pdfzone.com/pdfs/qiplusbk.pdf [608kb] For good measure, those links are part an announcement about the just-shipping imposition plugins for Acrobat v.3.+ ... details at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/extra30698.html#Updates Sorry for the inconvenience of a second posting, but I had a hunch some here might want to see the interactive tax form that was a late addition to this week's EXTRA. rgds ~ Kurt ---> T h e E m e r g e P D F z o n e <--- "Solutions for PDF Professionals" Kurt Foss Internet Communications Manager EMERGE (800)829-2459 | (608)829-3454 x102 579 D'Onofrio Drive FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - => PDF lists: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html => Emerge EXTRA: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Mar-1998 4:26:24-GMT,2877;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA07716 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 21:26:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA30846; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 22:03:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 7 Mar 1998 21:58:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA30667; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 21:58:34 -0600 Message-Id: <199803080358.VAA21270@dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Search bug? -Reply Date: Sat, 7 Mar 98 23:01:06 -0500 x-sender: dcaverly@popd.ix.netcom.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Darwin Caverly To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I had this problem and found if I built the index with the PC version it would happen. If built the Index with the Mac catalog it went away. >I experienced this exact problem last year. > >I found out that the first 64 characters in the document information >fields of >each file must be unique. > >My problem occurred because the first 64 characters of the document >information fields of several files were not unique (same title - Part 1, >Part 2, >Part 3). I modified the offending fields slightly to make them unique, reran >Catalog, and search worked perfect on all platforms including the MAC. > >Hope this helps! > >- Chris > >>>> 10/16/97 06:44pm >>> > > > > > >Almost a year ago, someone asked about a bug in Acrobat Reader 2.1: > >>Problem: When I search using ONE PARTICULAR term in the subject >field on >>a Macintosh, I will get the error "An internal error has occurred. >>Can't retrieve the results. Sorry." I believe that other terms will >>also produce the error. I know for sure that some do not. >> >>This problem is NOT happening on the Windows 95 platform when I >search >>for the SAME TERM in the Subject field. This strikes me as odd. > >We just experienced a similar condition while searching for certain terms >in the body (i.e. not in fields) of indexed documents using Reader 3.0 -- >on the Mac and not on Windows 95. Has anyone else experienced this >same >problem? I couldn't find any response from a subscriber or from Adobe on >this issue since the above post on 11/4/96! > Best Regards Darwin Caverly Husqvarna Forest & Garden +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Mar-1998 14:51:33-GMT,1740;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17087 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 07:51:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA12890; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 08:28:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 8 Mar 1998 08:25:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA12784; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 08:25:43 -0600 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E011CAC@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Printing PDFs in a given directory Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 23:06:32 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I can't seem to find who asked this question although I remember reading it yesterday. However, I have written VBA code to open and print all PDFs in a given directory. The code to do so is located on the RTS website http://www.roundtable.com.au Click on plugins and then click the "code cuts" button. I hope this helps. -- Karl De Abrew - karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions - SendMail for Acrobat Exchange - download RTSJoust today! +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Mar-1998 17:59:42-GMT,2422;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20061 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 10:59:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA18185; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 11:36:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 8 Mar 1998 11:34:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA18077; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 11:34:42 -0600 Message-ID: <3502D76A.721C5C20@jimcole.com> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 09:37:46 -0800 From: Jim Cole Organization: Cole Software Consulting, Incorporated X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: a.g.jippes@ub.utwente.nl Subject: [PDF] Re: PDFMaker requires Acrobat References: <199803061022.EAA18062@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Adobe clearly intends that PDFMaker only be used with an installed copy of Acrobat. The PDFMaker code enforces these terms by not working unless it finds a copy of PDFWriter or Distiller on the local computer. >From the online documentation that comes with PDFMaker: Requirements ... Adobe PDFMaker requires either the Acrobat PDFWriter 3.0 (or later) printer driver, or Acrobat Distiller 3.0 (or later). Both of these programs are part of Adobe Acrobat 3.0. You must own a copy of Adobe Acrobat in order to use PDFMaker And from the Frequently Asked Questions section of PDFMaker's online documentation: Why can't I use PDFMaker without Adobe Acrobat? PDFMaker requires that Adobe Acrobat be installed on your computer because PDFMaker uses Acrobat PDFWriter or Distiller to create PDF files, and Acrobat Exchange or Reader to view them. PDFMaker cannot create or view PDF files itself. PDFMaker is not a replacement for Acrobat; it is a tool to make it easier to create PDF files from Microsoft Word using Acrobat. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Mar-1998 19:54:47-GMT,3617;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21950 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 12:54:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA22469; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 13:33:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 8 Mar 1998 13:31:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA22381; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 13:31:30 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980308192545.0093a690@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 11:25:45 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: PDFMaker requires Acrobat Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 re: "...unless it finds a copy of PDFWriter or Distiller on the local computer." This clause would seem to negate the possibility of using PDFMaker in a client/server environment; i.e., I suspect that most companies would prefer to use Distiller as a server-based application -- after all, and it's designed and documented to be used that way! To quote from the Distiller on-line help (DISTILLR.PDF), page 130: "You can set up Distiller to watch certain folders on a network server. When Distiller watches a folder, it periodically checks the folders for PostScript files. When a PostScript file is saved or copied into a watched folder, Distiller automatically processes the file and moves it to an Out folder. "Sharing Distiller on a network conserves individual machine resources, such as memory and disk space. You can also have Distiller watch folders on your own system." Adobe's developers are, again, at odds with their marketing counterparts. This kind of nonsense sure makes it confusing for people who are responsible for determining how many copies of which application they need to purchase, install, and maintain per client and per server. My conclusion: "Free" tools usually aren't (aka TANSTAAFL). Tom Thiersch At 09:37 AM 3/8/98 -0800, Jim Cole wrote: > >Adobe clearly intends that PDFMaker only be used with an installed copy of Acrobat. The PDFMaker code enforces these terms by not working unless it finds a copy of PDFWriter or Distiller on the local computer. > >From the online documentation that comes with PDFMaker: > >Requirements >... > >Adobe PDFMaker requires either the Acrobat PDFWriter 3.0 (or later) printer driver, or Acrobat Distiller 3.0 (or later). Both of these programs are part of Adobe Acrobat 3.0. You must own a copy of Adobe Acrobat in order to use PDFMaker > >And from the Frequently Asked Questions section of PDFMaker's online documentation: > >Why can't I use PDFMaker without Adobe Acrobat? > >PDFMaker requires that Adobe Acrobat be installed on your computer because PDFMaker uses Acrobat PDFWriter or Distiller to create PDF files, and Acrobat Exchange or Reader to view them. PDFMaker cannot create or view PDF files itself. PDFMaker is not a replacement for Acrobat; it is a tool to make it easier to create PDF files from Microsoft Word using Acrobat. > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Mar-1998 22:18:48-GMT,2938;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24310 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 15:18:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA26857; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 15:54:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 8 Mar 1998 15:52:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26771; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 15:52:15 -0600 Message-ID: <35031283.7CE27317@fidnet.com> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 15:49:55 -0600 From: "M. Randall Mueller" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: PDFwriter:was[PDF] PDFMaker References: <199803061022.EAA18062@everglades.binc.net> <3502D76A.721C5C20@jimcole.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-UNICODE-2-0-UTF-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We have had the PDFwriter long before we got acrobat....it must be downloadable somewhere? Also, what is pdfmaker and is it on the adobe site Jim Cole wrote: > > Adobe clearly intends that PDFMaker only be used with an installed copy of Acrobat. The PDFMaker code enforces these terms by not working unless it finds a copy of PDFWriter or Distiller on the local computer. > > >From the online documentation that comes with PDFMaker: > > Requirements > ... > > Adobe PDFMaker requires either the Acrobat PDFWriter 3.0 (or later) printer driver, or Acrobat Distiller 3.0 (or later). Both of these programs are part of Adobe Acrobat 3.0. You must own a copy of Adobe Acrobat in order to use PDFMaker > > And from the Frequently Asked Questions section of PDFMaker's online documentation: > > Why can't I use PDFMaker without Adobe Acrobat? > > PDFMaker requires that Adobe Acrobat be installed on your computer because PDFMaker uses Acrobat PDFWriter or Distiller to create PDF files, and Acrobat Exchange or Reader to view them. PDFMaker cannot create or view PDF files itself. PDFMaker is not a replacement for Acrobat; it is a tool to make it easier to create PDF files from Microsoft Word using Acrobat. > +------------------------------------------------------------------------ > PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html > +------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- mueller@fidnet.com http://whdesign.com WebHeadBookShop - WebTV Talk +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 8-Mar-1998 22:18:53-GMT,1809;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24317 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 15:18:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA26951; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 15:57:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 8 Mar 1998 15:56:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26914; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 15:56:14 -0600 Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 15:56:35 -0600 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Briggs Subject: [PDF] Database Publishing to PDF - How? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I currently use Tango and Oracle to dynamically publish information from databases to HTML or text. Is there a good way to publish on the fly directly to PDF instead? Thanks! -- Steve **************************************************************** Steve Briggs http://www.wowpages.com/ Wow Pages, Inc. 1.800.WOW.1032 Web Site Design and Hosting ME 207.741.2570 steve@wowpages.com VT 802.860.6682 **************************************************************** +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Mar-1998 0:27:02-GMT,1743;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA26574 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 17:27:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA31072; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 17:58:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 8 Mar 1998 17:56:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA30994; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 17:56:36 -0600 Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 15:56:51 -0800 (PST) From: Patrick West To: "M. Randall Mueller" cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: PDFwriter:was[PDF] PDFMaker In-Reply-To: <35031283.7CE27317@fidnet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Sun, 8 Mar 1998, M. Randall Mueller wrote: > > We have had the PDFwriter long before we got acrobat....it must be > downloadable somewhere? Also, what is pdfmaker and is it on the adobe > site No pdf-writer is only available as part of Acrobat. Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp PGP Key fingerprint = F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16 DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Mar-1998 5:18:07-GMT,1984;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA01544 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 22:18:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA07679; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 22:49:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 8 Mar 1998 22:44:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA07544; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 22:44:54 -0600 Message-ID: <3502CA6F.DFFD564E@cyburban.com> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 11:42:24 -0500 From: Michael Lee X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Pdfmark Links Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi All, I hope you can give me a hand. I'm working with .PS file and Pdfmark commands to create Links within a .PDF file. But the Link commands seem to demand that it put some in some color for the border of the Link. Is it possible to make the border transparent. I'm putting the link around text like HTML links (with blue text). I can't use white, because if the link overlaps the text, some of the text disapears and look bad. Here is the commands I'm using. [ /Rect [ 510 620 10 627 ] /Subtype /Link %%/Color [1 0 0] /Action /Launch /File (//01/00000001.pdf) /ANN pdfmark .0 .0 1.0 setrgbcolor %%set text color to blue 10 620 moveto (Title Search) show Thanks for any help. Michael Lee +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Mar-1998 7:53:07-GMT,2086;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA04317 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 00:53:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA11524; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 01:23:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 01:21:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA11457; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 01:21:07 -0600 Message-Id: <98Mar9.082027gmt+0100.22401-1@baz-s-fw.baz.ch> From: Yannick WOLF To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] silent installation of Adobe Acrobat Reader/Exchange Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:27:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id BAA11454 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi all, I am desperately trying to install silently Adobe Acrobat Exchange 3.0, and it is a little bit tricky. We are using InstallShield5 to install some stuff and we call the Acrobat setup within our setup with the LaunchAppAnd Wait() IS function. The problem is that InstallShield is not able to detect the end of the installation of Exchange. It is a known problem, but the given solutions with the API function FindWindow() do not work with silent installations. I know this is an installation problem, but I am just wondering if anybody already got this problem. Has anybody found a work around to this problem ? Thanks in advance, Yannick Wolf CD-ROM Development Basler Zeitung y.wolf@baz.ch +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Mar-1998 10:02:22-GMT,2411;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA06470 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 03:02:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA14534; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 03:34:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 03:32:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA14463; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 03:32:14 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD4B3E.724015E0.davec@docctrl.com> From: David Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: PDFwriter:was[PDF] PDFMaker Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:13:03 -0000 Organization: Computerised Document Control Ltd X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >We have had the PDFwriter long before we got acrobat....it must be >downloadable somewhere? Also, what is pdfmaker and is it on the adobe >site This is not possible - unless you have been (unknowingly) breaking licensing conditions. PDFwriter is an integral part of the Acrobat package which costs money. PDFmaker is a Word Macro that makes it slightly easier to produce "intelligent" PDF files from MS Word. We have a product, Local Render, which does much the same - except that it is command line driven. drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat -----Original Message----- From: M. Randall Mueller [SMTP:mueller@fidnet.com] Sent: 08 March 1998 21:50 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: PDFwriter:was[PDF] PDFMaker << File: ATT00000.txt; charset = x-UNICODE-2-0-UTF-7 >> +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Mar-1998 10:02:14-GMT,2069;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA06466 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 03:02:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA14529; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 03:34:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 03:32:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA14464; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 03:32:14 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD4B3E.8B1051C0.davec@docctrl.com> From: David Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Database Publishing to PDF - How? Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:15:08 -0000 Organization: Computerised Document Control Ltd X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >I currently use Tango and Oracle to dynamically publish information from >databases to HTML or text. Is there a good way to publish on the fly >directly to PDF instead? Our PDFfusion product will allow you to publish this information directly into dynamic PDF templates with complete control over formatting, and resulting PDF file features. More information from: www.docctrl.com drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Mar-1998 10:05:02-GMT,2128;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA06540 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 03:05:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA14644; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 03:37:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 03:36:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA14604; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 03:36:15 -0600 Message-Id: <199803090936.EAA29013@dax.cc.uakron.edu> From: "D. P. Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 04:35:28 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [PDF] Pdfmark Links In-reply-to: <3502CA6F.DFFD564E@cyburban.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Make the border invisible On 8 Mar 98 at 11:42, Michael Lee wrote: > > > [ /Rect [ 510 620 10 627 ] > /Subtype /Link > /Border [ 0 0 0 ] % invisible border > /Action /Launch > /File (//01/00000001.pdf) > /ANN pdfmark > > .0 .0 1.0 setrgbcolor %%set text color to blue > 10 620 moveto > (Title Search) show > Hope this is what you want, dps Dr. D. P. Story Department of Mathematical Sciences The University of Akron Akron, OH 44325 tele: (330) 972-7514 e-mail: dpstory@uakron.edu Home Page: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Home of ... e-Calculus: A Calculus I Tutorial on the WeB. Written in TeX and converted to the PDF format. See it at http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/e-calculus.html and of ... An Algebra Review in 10 Lessons TeX to PDF http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/mpt_home.html +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Mar-1998 10:57:46-GMT,5544;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA07367 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 03:57:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA15965; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 04:30:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 04:29:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA15895; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 04:29:55 -0600 Message-ID: <000301bd4b45$92628a40$1f40dec2@nplum.demon.co.uk> From: Nic Plum To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at post.mail.demon.net Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: PDFMaker requires Acrobat Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 23:53:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I can't believe that pdfMaker is as intelligent (or picky) as this would make it out to be. For example what happens if the version of Word you are running is a networked version (as well as Distiller or pdfWriter)? Equally it would be possible to "map" network drives in a way so that pdfMaker could no longer distinguish between "local" and "network". I can understand it refusing to spit out postscript for distilling or whatever if it can't find something it thinks can cope with postscript but I doubt that it really can distinguish between "local" and "network". If Aandi Inston is right about the change in licensing of Distiller from shared to 1 license per connected computer then maybe Adobe in this behaviour of pdfMaker are merely recognising that most companies aren't going to buy it! ;-) Nic. ================================================================= Buckden, < www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/ > Huntingdon, For information management and Cambs, Adobe Acrobat integration from UK. within your favourite PE18 9SZ wordprocessor -----Original Message----- From: Tom Thiersch To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: 08 March 1998 19:59 Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: PDFMaker requires Acrobat > >re: "...unless it finds a copy of PDFWriter or Distiller on the local computer." > >This clause would seem to negate the possibility of using PDFMaker in a >client/server environment; i.e., I suspect that most companies would prefer >to use Distiller as a server-based application -- after all, and it's >designed and documented to be used that way! To quote from the Distiller >on-line help (DISTILLR.PDF), page 130: > > "You can set up Distiller to watch certain folders on >a network server. When Distiller watches a folder, it >periodically checks the folders for PostScript files. >When a PostScript file is saved or copied into a >watched folder, Distiller automatically processes >the file and moves it to an Out folder. > "Sharing Distiller on a network conserves individual >machine resources, such as memory and disk space. >You can also have Distiller watch folders on your >own system." > >Adobe's developers are, again, at odds with their marketing counterparts. > >This kind of nonsense sure makes it confusing for people who are responsible >for determining how many copies of which application they need to purchase, >install, and maintain per client and per server. > >My conclusion: "Free" tools usually aren't (aka TANSTAAFL). > >Tom Thiersch > > >At 09:37 AM 3/8/98 -0800, Jim Cole wrote: >> >>Adobe clearly intends that PDFMaker only be used with an installed copy of >Acrobat. The PDFMaker code enforces these terms by not working unless it >finds a copy of PDFWriter or Distiller on the local computer. >> >>From the online documentation that comes with PDFMaker: >> >>Requirements >>... >> >>Adobe PDFMaker requires either the Acrobat PDFWriter 3.0 (or later) printer >driver, or Acrobat Distiller 3.0 (or later). Both of these programs are part >of Adobe Acrobat 3.0. You must own a copy of Adobe Acrobat in order to use >PDFMaker >> >>And from the Frequently Asked Questions section of PDFMaker's online >documentation: >> >>Why can't I use PDFMaker without Adobe Acrobat? >> >>PDFMaker requires that Adobe Acrobat be installed on your computer because >PDFMaker uses Acrobat PDFWriter or Distiller to create PDF files, and >Acrobat Exchange or Reader to view them. PDFMaker cannot create or view PDF >files itself. PDFMaker is not a replacement for Acrobat; it is a tool to >make it easier to create PDF files from Microsoft Word using Acrobat. >> > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- ----+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- ----+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Mar-1998 11:51:47-GMT,1840;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA08166 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 04:51:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA17395; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 05:30:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 05:29:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA17318; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 05:29:22 -0600 Message-Id: <199803091129.MAA06753@d1o202.telia.com> Subject: [PDF] SGML vs PDF Date: Mon, 9 Mar 98 12:26:53 -0000 x-sender: u222600675@m1.2226.telia.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Richard Taubo To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi all! To have answers ready when my customers ask, I am wondering how the current trend is in the US when it comes to SGML and PDF publishing: Do people tend to use PDF or SGML for publishing manuals for internal and external use? What about general publishing on intranets etc.? Which markets are dominated by PDF and which markets are dominated by SGML? I hope someone can provide some valuable information here. I am more interested in the current trend people are facing than my specific questions. Any input would be useful:) Regards, Richard Taubo Bergersen -- Norway +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Mar-1998 13:36:45-GMT,2283;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA09788 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 06:36:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA19975; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 07:09:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 07:07:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA19910; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 07:07:34 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980309091105.007bb570@dit-bds.com> X-Sender: winston@dit-bds.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 09:11:05 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Winston Roach Subject: [PDF] Email PLug-in Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Everyone, Does any one know or have any idea if there is and where I can find a plug-in for my email that allows me to see Web links as I type them the way it happens in Microsoft Word? Thanks for all the help in advance. Thanks, Looking forward to your cooperation in all relevant matters mentioned, until then ... enjoy your day. As always.... Warm Regards +************************************************************************** + | Winston Roach New Projects Coordinator | | OFFSHORE KEYBOARDING CORP. | +************************************************************************** + | Data Entry Centre, Bld #6 |Tel. #: (246) 429-4057 | | Harbour View 2, Harbour Road | (246) 431-0307 | | Bridgetown | (246) 431-0308 | | St. Michael |Fax. #: (246) 429-3072 | | Barbados |email: winston@dit-bds.com | | West Indies |hotmail: nathan95@hotmail.com | +*************************************************************************** + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Mar-1998 13:47:58-GMT,2563;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA09969 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 06:47:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA20726; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 07:33:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 07:32:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA20680; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 07:32:56 -0600 Message-ID: <3503EEC8.4FD6D7BE@cornell.edu> Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 08:29:44 -0500 From: Richard Marisa Organization: Cornell University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] SGML vs PDF References: <199803091129.MAA06753@d1o202.telia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >From my perspective I have seen little SGML... but XML, loosely an SGML "subset", is coming on very strong as an inter-/intra-net publishing tool for information intended to be searched, or database information to be dynamically formatted for display (and I think print may follow close behind). Take a look at http://www.w3c.org/XML http://www.microsoft.com/XML -- Rich Richard Taubo wrote: > Hi all! > > To have answers ready when my customers ask, I am wondering how the > current trend is in the US when it comes to SGML and PDF publishing: Do > people tend to use PDF or SGML for publishing manuals for internal and > external use? What about general publishing on intranets etc.? Which > markets are dominated by PDF and which markets are dominated by SGML? > > I hope someone can provide some valuable information here. I am more > interested in the current trend people are facing than my specific > questions. > > Any input would be useful:) > > Regards, > Richard Taubo > Bergersen -- Norway -- Richard Marisa, Electronic Printing and Publishing Initiatives Cornell Information Technology, Cornell University 220a Computing and Communications Center, Ithaca, NY 14853 rjm2@cornell.edu (607) 255-7636 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Mar-1998 13:48:34-GMT,3255;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA09989 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 06:48:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA20856; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 07:36:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 07:35:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA20785; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 07:35:06 -0600 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E011D61@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Email PLug-in Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:34:26 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Winston, Although I believe your question may be a little off the topic of this list, if you use Microsoft Outlook, then typed web links are as you describe. Other e-mail clients may and probably also have this functionality. Contact me privately for more detail. regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions - SendMail with Acrobat Exchange, download RTSJoust! http://www.roundtable.com.au > -----Original Message----- > From: Winston Roach [SMTP:winston@dit-bds.com] > Sent: Monday, March 09, 1998 7:11 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Email PLug-in > Importance: High > > > Hi Everyone, > > Does any one know or have any idea if there is and where I can find a > plug-in for my email that allows me to see Web links as I type them > the way > it happens in Microsoft Word? > > Thanks for all the help in advance. > > > > Thanks, > > Looking forward to your cooperation in all relevant matters mentioned, > until then ... enjoy your day. > > As always.... > > > Warm Regards > +********************************************************************* > ***** + > | Winston Roach New Projects > Coordinator | > | OFFSHORE KEYBOARDING CORP. > | > +********************************************************************* > ***** + > | Data Entry Centre, Bld #6 |Tel. #: (246) > 429-4057 | > | Harbour View 2, Harbour Road | (246) 431-0307 > | > | Bridgetown | (246) > 431-0308 | > | St. Michael |Fax. #: (246) > 429-3072 | > | Barbados |email: > winston@dit-bds.com | > | West Indies |hotmail: > nathan95@hotmail.com | > +********************************************************************* > ****** > + > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Mar-1998 13:52:32-GMT,3576;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA10027 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 06:52:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA21246; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 07:46:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 07:45:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA21176; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 07:45:26 -0600 Message-ID: <001601bd4b5d$5badcb00$1f40dec2@nplum.demon.co.uk> From: Nic Plum To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at post.mail.demon.net Subject: Re: [PDF] Pdfmark Links Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:50:32 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Yes, from practical experience myself it does demand a colour for the border. I'm unclear though why you can't dimension the border such that ,even with a white border, it just fits the text and doesn't overlap onto any other text. The other possibility is that you might want to deliberately make it a "design feature" and choose a fill colour and matching border so that the linked text is set against a visible solid colour. This still leaves the problem of overlap - which is probably where the effort ought to be spent. Nic. ================================================================= Buckden, < www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/ > Huntingdon, For information management and Cambs, Adobe Acrobat integration from UK. within your favourite PE18 9SZ wordprocessor -----Original Message----- From: Michael Lee To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: 09 March 1998 05:09 Subject: [PDF] Pdfmark Links > > Hi All, > I hope you can give me a hand. I'm working with .PS file and Pdfmark >commands to create Links within a .PDF file. But the Link commands seem >to demand that it put some in some color for the border of the Link. Is >it possible to make the border transparent. I'm putting the link around >text like HTML links (with blue text). I can't use white, because if the >link overlaps the text, some of the text disapears and look bad. Here is >the commands I'm using. > >[ /Rect [ 510 620 10 627 ] >/Subtype /Link >%%/Color [1 0 0] >/Action /Launch >/File (//01/00000001.pdf) >/ANN pdfmark > >.0 .0 1.0 setrgbcolor %%set text color to blue >10 620 moveto >(Title Search) show > > Thanks for any help. >Michael Lee > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- ----+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- ----+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Mar-1998 14:43:55-GMT,3508;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11017 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 07:43:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA21556; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 07:53:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 07:52:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA21474; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 07:52:23 -0600 Message-ID: <3503F3F0.F1764156@beacon.com> Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 08:51:44 -0500 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Search bug? -Reply References: <199803080358.VAA21270@dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Darwin Caverly wrote: > > >I found out that the first 64 characters in the document information > >fields of each file must be unique. > > > >My problem occurred because the first 64 characters of the document > >information fields of several files were not unique (same title - Part 1, > >Part 2, > >Part 3). I modified the offending fields slightly to make them unique, reran > >Catalog, and search worked perfect on all platforms including the MAC. > > I had this problem and found if I built the index with the PC version it > would happen. If built the Index with the Mac catalog it went away. Careful there--this is bug Adobe has documented. I would be skeptical that you actually found a solution, just to be on the safe side. From the Acrobat 3.01 Reader README2.WRI: Internal Error while searching - When searching documents which contain long titles you may get an internal error message from Acrobat. This message is due to having titles which are same through the first 63 characters in the title. For example, suppose we have two documents with the titles: "The Quick Brown Fox Jumped Over The Lazy Dogs. By John A. Smithson" and "The Quick Brown Fox Jumped Over The Lazy Dogs. By John A. Smithsun". These titles are 66 characters long and are identical in the first 63 characters. The dialog will appear in this instance if the search results are sorted by title. As a work-around change all document fields (especially the Title) to be unique within the first 63 characters if their field values are more than 64 characters long and reindex the documents. (By the way, I'd recommend reading that file and README.WRI to any serious developer.) Suppose the titles of documents A and B have the same first 64 letters. From my experience, * Catalog reports no errors * On Solaris and MacOS, any search that would result in documents A and B being returned gives an error message, and no search results. * On Windows, no error message is given, but only *one* of document A or B will be listed in the search results. I worked around the problem as Adobe recommends above. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Mar-1998 14:44:38-GMT,2447;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11037 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 07:44:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA21352; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 07:49:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 07:48:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA21301; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 07:48:02 -0600 X-Sender: dstabb@mail.pit-magnus.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199803091129.MAA06753@d1o202.telia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:56:41 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "David Stabb" Subject: Re: [PDF] SGML vs PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Richard - We deal in both SGML and PDF (See www.pit-magnus.com and www.target2000.com). Generally the higher end of the Scholarly and Professional market seems to be going with SGML. PDF is often also produced, either for journal archiving, or as an adjunct to typesetting. Enhanced PDF (lots of links, navigation, etc) is beginning to be requested by some customers, and PDF is a strong contender for Conference Proceedings. Most customers with an archive of historical paper are in a quandry - should they rekey or scan/ocr. I'll help them out either way. >To have answers ready when my customers ask, I am wondering how the >current trend is in the US when it comes to SGML and PDF publishing: Do >people tend to use PDF or SGML for publishing manuals for internal and >external use? What about general publishing on intranets etc.? Which >markets are dominated by PDF and which markets are dominated by SGML? ____|)avid / Progressive Information Technologies David Stabb / 315 Busser Road Director, New Media & / Emigsville, PA 17318 Electronic Products / Information Architects for Publishing +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Mar-1998 14:50:27-GMT,5075;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11151 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 07:50:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA23110; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:33:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:29:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22933; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:29:42 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Johnston,Randy" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] silent installation of Adobe Acrobat Reader/Exchange Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 06:30:55 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Yannick, I don't install Acrobat silently, but I do launch the Acrobat setup program with the LaunchApp () function. I originally ran into the same problem as you are running so I came up with a work around that I am listing below. Basically what InstallShield is looking for is if the Window class has changed, since there are multiple windows running during the installation, the class changes even though the application is still running. What I did was to determine the class number of the finish window for reader and then performed a loop until InstallShield found that class and was able to determine that the Acrobat install was complete. I've include the code that performs this loop, I don't know if this will help you for a silent install, but good luck. szReferenceFile = svDir ^ @PRODUCT_KEY; // TODO : If your file is in a subdir of svDir add that here DeinstallSetReference( szReferenceFile ); szProgram = SRCDIR ^ szReadPath; szCmdLine = ""; nLoops = 0; nResult = LaunchApp ( szProgram , szCmdLine ); Delay(60); szClassName = "#32770"; szWinName = "Setup Complete"; szNotFound = "Yes"; while szNotFound = "Yes" nHwnd = FindWindow ( szClassName , szWinName ); nLoops = nLoops + 1; if (nHwnd != NULL) then szClassName = "InstallShield_Win"; szWinName = "Setup"; while szNotFound = "Yes" nHwnd = FindWindow ( szClassName , szWinName ); if (nHwnd = NULL) then szMsg = @ACROBAT_INSTALLED; SdShowMsg ( szMsg , TRUE ); //Get the path for reader if bIsShellExplorer ||bWinNT then szProgram = @ACROBAT_READER; else szProgram = @ACROBAT_READER_16; endif; ListGetFirstString(szDriveListID, szString); szPath = szString + ":\\"; nResult = FindAllFiles ( szPath , szProgram , svResult , RESET ); while nResult != 0 ListGetNextString(szDriveListID, szString); szPath = szString + ":\\"; nResult = FindAllFiles ( szPath , szProgram , svResult , RESET ); endwhile; szAcroPath = svResult; szNotFound = "No"; szMsg = @ACROBAT_SEARCH_MSG; SdShowMsg ( szMsg , FALSE ); endif; endwhile; endif; endwhile; Randy Johnston State of the Art, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Yannick WOLF [SMTP:y.wolf@baz.ch] Sent: Sunday, March 08, 1998 11:27 PM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: [PDF] silent installation of Adobe Acrobat Reader/Exchange Hi all, I am desperately trying to install silently Adobe Acrobat Exchange 3.0, and it is a little bit tricky. We are using InstallShield5 to install some stuff and we call the Acrobat setup within our setup with the LaunchAppAnd Wait() IS function. The problem is that InstallShield is not able to detect the end of the installation of Exchange. It is a known problem, but the given solutions with the API function FindWindow() do not work with silent installations. I know this is an installation problem, but I am just wondering if anybody already got this problem. Has anybody found a work around to this problem ? Thanks in advance, Yannick Wolf CD-ROM Development Basler Zeitung y.wolf@baz.ch +---------------------------------------------------------------------- --+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +---------------------------------------------------------------------- --+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Mar-1998 14:51:11-GMT,1890;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11188 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 07:51:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA22950; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:29:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:24:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22753; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:24:35 -0600 Message-Id: <199803091424.JAA16586@wally.cmcog.state.sc.us> X-Authentication-Warning: wally.cmcog.state.sc.us: smapd set sender to using -f From: "Paul Gowder" To: Subject: [PDF] Saving PDF in the browser Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:23:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am working on publishing some of our publications in pdf. We want to allow users to both save them and view them online. After someone opens a pdf in the browser is there a way to save it or do they have to click on the link first, and "save link as". thanks for your help in advance ____________________________________ Paul Gowder Research Planner and Webmaster Central Midlands Council of Governments +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Mar-1998 15:25:01-GMT,1726;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11974 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:25:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA24302; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:01:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:59:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA24196; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:59:46 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Czajka, Mark" To: "'PDF List'" Subject: [PDF] accessing PDFs or movies from a web browser Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:53:22 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Is there a way to disable caching of PDFs or movies when they are accessed from a CD-ROM with a web browser? If I have a 20 MB file, the browser must load the image before it can be viewed or played (movies). > ________The One-Off CD Shops - Washington, DC > _________________4590 Graphics Drive > _______________White Plains, MD 20695 > __________(301) 870-0480 or (800) 678-8760 > ________Internet: http://www.oneoffcd.ags.com > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Mar-1998 15:41:06-GMT,2538;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12311 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:41:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA25504; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:27:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:26:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA25388; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:26:14 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD4B6F.AD1799A0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] accessing PDFs or movies from a web browser Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:23:40 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 It isn't a question of disabling caching. What I think you really want is "streaming", where the file can start to be processed before it is completely downloaded. It may or may not go into the cache. This is available now for PDF files - check references to "byteserving" and "optimizing". It is available for some movie formats, like VDO. Aandi On Monday, 9 March, 1998 14:53, Czajka, Mark [SMTP:mczajka@ags.com] wrote: > > Is there a way to disable caching of PDFs or movies when they are > accessed from a CD-ROM with a web browser? If I have a 20 MB file, the > browser must load the image before it can be viewed or played (movies). > > > > ________The One-Off CD Shops - Washington, DC > > _________________4590 Graphics Drive > > _______________White Plains, MD 20695 > > __________(301) 870-0480 or (800) 678-8760 > > ________Internet: http://www.oneoffcd.ags.com > > > > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Mar-1998 16:25:39-GMT,1726;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13404 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:25:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA27254; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:01:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:59:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA27139; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:59:52 -0600 Message-ID: <219E07E09A66D111B7120000C07B2886F122@PROXY> From: "Moore, James (Guardall)" To: "PDF List Group (E-mail)" Subject: [PDF] Screen Captures Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:05:08 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 When converting screen captures to PDF format from PageMaker 6.5, the resolution of the images is greatly degraded. Even after forcing Distiller to keep grayscale images at 600 DPI. Any ideas on the best way to publish 600 DPI screen captures so that the resolution is maintained for PDF printing ! Note: the screens were captured at 600 DPI grayscale and print perfectly directly from PageMaker 6.5... Regards James Moore jmoore@guardall.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Mar-1998 17:36:48-GMT,2886;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15161 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:36:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA30177; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:10:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:07:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA30058; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:07:50 -0600 Message-ID: <002a01bd4b7e$76878f80$174df482@ulf> From: "Ulf Andersson" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] SGML vs PDF Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:11:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 If I understand it correctly, SGML stands for Standard General Markup Language and have nothing to do with PDF that is a way to distribute information, while SGML is made to Markup a text. SGML can be used to control the structure of the document or to find marked information in the text. There is not many companies that have adopted SGML because it is complex and labor intensive so be careful before you take a decision. Regards Ulf -----Original Message----- From: Richard Taubo To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Date: den 9 mars 1998 12:43 Subject: [PDF] SGML vs PDF > >Hi all! > >To have answers ready when my customers ask, I am wondering how the >current trend is in the US when it comes to SGML and PDF publishing: Do >people tend to use PDF or SGML for publishing manuals for internal and >external use? What about general publishing on intranets etc.? Which >markets are dominated by PDF and which markets are dominated by SGML? > >I hope someone can provide some valuable information here. I am more >interested in the current trend people are facing than my specific >questions. > >Any input would be useful:) > >Regards, >Richard Taubo >Bergersen -- Norway >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Mar-1998 17:37:26-GMT,5705;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15179 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:37:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA30789; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:23:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:22:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA30717; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:22:00 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD4B3C.552F3500@SPECWAR> From: Michael Peterson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Saving PDF in the browser Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:18:22 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD4B3C.552F3500" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD4B3C.552F3500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes they have to backup to the first link and go Save Target As... -----Original Message----- From: Paul Gowder [SMTP:paul@cmcog.state.sc.us] Sent: Monday, March 09, 1998 6:23 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Saving PDF in the browser I am working on publishing some of our publications in pdf. We want to allow users to both save them and view them online. After someone opens a pdf in the browser is there a way to save it or do they have to click on the link first, and "save link as". thanks for your help in advance ____________________________________ Paul Gowder Research Planner and Webmaster Central Midlands Council of Governments +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD4B3C.552F3500 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IiERAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEkAYAsAEAAAEAAAAQAAAAAwAAMAIAAAAL AA8OAAAAAAIB/w8BAAAASQAAAAAAAACBKx+kvqMQGZ1uAN0BD1QCAAAAAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6 b25lLmNvbQBTTVRQAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6b25lLmNvbQAAAAAeAAIwAQAAAAUAAABTTVRQAAAA AB4AAzABAAAAFgAAAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6b25lLmNvbQAAAAMAFQwBAAAAAwD+DwYAAAAeAAEw AQAAABgAAAAncGRmQGxpc3RzLnBkZnpvbmUuY29tJwACAQswAQAAABsAAABTTVRQOlBERkBMSVNU Uy5QREZaT05FLkNPTQAAAwAAOQAAAAALAEA6AQAAAB4A9l8BAAAAFgAAAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6 b25lLmNvbQAAAAIB918BAAAASQAAAAAAAACBKx+kvqMQGZ1uAN0BD1QCAAAAAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5w ZGZ6b25lLmNvbQBTTVRQAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6b25lLmNvbQAAAAADAP1fAQAAAAMA/18AAAAA AgH2DwEAAAAEAAAAAAAAAvlbAQSAAQAkAAAAUkU6IFtQREZdIFNhdmluZyBQREYgaW4gdGhlIGJy b3dzZXIAgQsBBYADAA4AAADOBwMACQAJABIAFgABABMBASCAAwAOAAAAzgcDAAkACQAQACQAAQAf AQEJgAEAIQAAADMxODlEMUM0NzBCN0QxMTE5NkM3MDA2MDk3NTk1MjFBAN4GAQOQBgCYBgAAIQAA AAsAAgABAAAACwAjAAAAAAADACYAAAAAAAsAKQAAAAAAAwAuAAAAAAADADYAAAAAAEAAOQDAkIdc f0u9AR4AcAABAAAAJAAAAFJFOiBbUERGXSBTYXZpbmcgUERGIGluIHRoZSBicm93c2VyAAIBcQAB AAAAFgAAAAG9S39cgcTRiTK3cBHRlscAYJdZUhoAAB4AHgwBAAAABQAAAFNNVFAAAAAAHgAfDAEA AAAYAAAAcGV0ZXJzb25tQGluZmludGVjaC5jb20AAwAGEBZdYA8DAAcQ9gIAAB4ACBABAAAAZQAA AFlFU1RIRVlIQVZFVE9CQUNLVVBUT1RIRUZJUlNUTElOS0FOREdPU0FWRVRBUkdFVEFTLS0tLS1P UklHSU5BTE1FU1NBR0UtLS0tLUZST006UEFVTEdPV0RFUlNNVFA6UEFVTEAAAAAAAgEJEAEAAABu AwAAagMAAIMFAABMWkZ17CDVd3cACgEDAfcgAqQD4wIAY4JoCsBzZXQwIAcThwKDAFAO9nBycTIP 9iZ9CoAIyCA7CW8yNWY1AoAKgXVjAFALA2MDAEELYG5nMTAzMwkLpiBZB5F0aGV5EiAPgHZlFpBv IGIxANBrdXAXMhahIGaWaQ+gBUBsC4BrIABwuGQgZxdQBhAXEVQKwOZnD8AP8HMuGlAKogqE5xrK CzAYsDM2AUAVEAFAKRFAb3QFkHQQhDE21CAtHaJPBRBnC4AHQPMF0AeQc2EZ8B2jGoYctAccgQsT HLZpLTE0NOMBQBiwMTgwAUAM0CFDqGIgRgNhOgyDYg/giFBhdQMgR293BIGAIFtTTVRQOgqwkSOA QGNtBaBnLhiABmEc0CUgYy51c11fGoUicAZgAjAi100CIGQ4YXksBdAKwA9wIDACOSewMTk5OCA2 KDoyMw/wTSX3VG/hItdwZGZAGLAYgBpAXSpxegIgJXAFoG0l+HUMYmoc4SLXW1BERrZdGWILgGcj UC1wIAuA1RgDYgNgdw+wch9PIFpXHAYQoQvDNBqKSRjwbfQgdwWway3iAiAqYCxgNSqxaC3icwNw FyBvZtczoAhwM9RjJVBpAiAEIEMuYSpxLiAgVxcgd/8AcAVAF0AahAdACQAH4CXA/wSQFoEXURzA KBAesBcSFrD/MxAZAi3QB9E5QwIgGLElcH02kEEBgCPxNJIrUTOgcPsJ8AQgYRqEKnEuXS5QFoO/ CXAY8DbRFtAXQTjzaQVA7QWxZBfzFthjNYEY4DOxvxahGoQYsxhTJ7AZAiI487kYtHMiGnsWoABw awQg2wIQBcB5NRIWsGwXwC5haGFkdgBwY0FlGoRfu0c/SE9fGoQjaRqEUgeQ+mUn41AVUStgBcAZ AjawrmIAwBiALyZDJpFyHlL0aWQVUWQEIAhRRkADEf804SOwFxAEoAeAAjAPQBqZvisdo1CvUb9S z1PeK0/18y4UBCBzcDXhBbAJgBdggRbQRU1FUkdFJ7B1GBJBBQBvF3AFQC4iU/878E5wB0AqwjaQ WOxU5yxRYQTyYmUvVQCAWoY6FzaQDGADIGgCQHA6L94vOWAEkBnwKwovCXA0kLMIcEZQcy8qtFww bQlQ/yOAD+BZ11PfYP9iD2MfVKkFEgEAZSAAAAMAEBAAAAAAAwAREAAAAAADAIAQ/////0AABzBA gZcdf0u9AUAACDBAgZcdf0u9AQsAAIAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAAOFAAAAAAAAAwACgAgg BgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAEIUAAAAAAAADAAWACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAABShQAAtw0A AB4AJYAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAFSFAAABAAAABAAAADguMAADACaACCAGAAAAAADAAAAA AAAARgAAAAABhQAAAAAAAAsAL4AIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAA6FAAAAAAAAAwAwgAggBgAA AAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAEYUAAAAAAAADADKACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAAYhQAAAAAAAB4A QYAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAADaFAAABAAAAAQAAAAAAAAAeAEKACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAA RgAAAAA3hQAAAQAAAAEAAAAAAAAAHgBDgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAOIUAAAEAAAABAAAA AAAAAB4APQABAAAABQAAAFJFOiAAAAAAAwANNP03AACBjg== ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD4B3C.552F3500-- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Mar-1998 17:47:58-GMT,5865;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15443 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:47:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA31268; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:34:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:32:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA31174; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:32:55 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD4B3D.E16A72E0@SPECWAR> From: Michael Peterson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Screen Captures Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:29:16 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD4B3D.E16BF980" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD4B3D.E16BF980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Be sure to maintain a ppi ratio of at least 144 or greater, both when saving the image and exporting to PDF under the Job Options section. -----Original Message----- From: Moore, James (Guardall) [SMTP:jmoore@guardall.com] Sent: Monday, March 09, 1998 8:05 AM To: PDF List Group (E-mail) Subject: [PDF] Screen Captures When converting screen captures to PDF format from PageMaker 6.5, the resolution of the images is greatly degraded. Even after forcing Distiller to keep grayscale images at 600 DPI. Any ideas on the best way to publish 600 DPI screen captures so that the resolution is maintained for PDF printing ! Note: the screens were captured at 600 DPI grayscale and print perfectly directly from PageMaker 6.5... Regards James Moore jmoore@guardall.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD4B3D.E16BF980 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IiYRAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEkAYAsAEAAAEAAAAQAAAAAwAAMAIAAAAL AA8OAAAAAAIB/w8BAAAASQAAAAAAAACBKx+kvqMQGZ1uAN0BD1QCAAAAAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6 b25lLmNvbQBTTVRQAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6b25lLmNvbQAAAAAeAAIwAQAAAAUAAABTTVRQAAAA AB4AAzABAAAAFgAAAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6b25lLmNvbQAAAAMAFQwBAAAAAwD+DwYAAAAeAAEw AQAAABgAAAAncGRmQGxpc3RzLnBkZnpvbmUuY29tJwACAQswAQAAABsAAABTTVRQOlBERkBMSVNU Uy5QREZaT05FLkNPTQAAAwAAOQAAAAALAEA6AQAAAB4A9l8BAAAAFgAAAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6 b25lLmNvbQAAAAIB918BAAAASQAAAAAAAACBKx+kvqMQGZ1uAN0BD1QCAAAAAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5w ZGZ6b25lLmNvbQBTTVRQAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6b25lLmNvbQAAAAADAP1fAQAAAAMA/18AAAAA AgH2DwEAAAAEAAAAAAAAAvlbAQSAAQAaAAAAUkU6IFtQREZdIFNjcmVlbiBDYXB0dXJlcwBqCAEF gAMADgAAAM4HAwAJAAkAHQAQAAEAGAEBIIADAA4AAADOBwMACQAJABoAAQABAAYBAQmAAQAhAAAA M0E4OUQxQzQ3MEI3RDExMTk2QzcwMDYwOTc1OTUyMUEA7gYBA5AGANAGAAAhAAAACwACAAEAAAAL ACMAAAAAAAMAJgAAAAAACwApAAAAAAADAC4AAAAAAAMANgAAAAAAQAA5ALA5suKAS70BHgBwAAEA AAAaAAAAUkU6IFtQREZdIFNjcmVlbiBDYXB0dXJlcwAAAAIBcQABAAAAFgAAAAG9S4DircTRiTu3 cBHRlscAYJdZUhoAAB4AHgwBAAAABQAAAFNNVFAAAAAAHgAfDAEAAAAYAAAAcGV0ZXJzb25tQGlu ZmludGVjaC5jb20AAwAGED/SM+cDAAcQegMAAB4ACBABAAAAZQAAAEJFU1VSRVRPTUFJTlRBSU5B UFBJUkFUSU9PRkFUTEVBU1QxNDRPUkdSRUFURVIsQk9USFdIRU5TQVZJTkdUSEVJTUFHRUFOREVY UE9SVElOR1RPUERGVU5ERVJUSEVKT0JPUFQAAAAAAgEJEAEAAACtAwAAqQMAAPoFAABMWkZ1/lsV nwMACgByY3BnMTI1FjIA+Atgbg4QMDMznQH3IAKkA+MCAGNoCsDgc2V0MCAHEwKDAFChEHZwcnEy EXZ9CoDZCMggOwlvDjA1AoAKgWx1YwBQCwNjEhILxCAwQmUgcwhwF2B0bx4gAMALgAGQC4AgYSAA cHBpIHJhdGkZF+BvZhiABUBsZWHicwVAMTQ0GUAFwAnBExkABJAsIAbgdGggTHdoCfAXcGF2C4Bn yxfAG3AgB3BhZxdgAHDgZCBleHAJERvjF+DgUERGIHUc0ASQHBPgSm9iIE8FMBkgBjH1ETBjHxIu CqIKhAqECzDwbGkzNgFAFpABQBLAhxsgH4ESBDE2IC0isvpPBRBnC4AHQAXQB5AbsH8ckCKzH/Yh xCGRCxMhxmmOLRoRAUAhEDE4MAFAVwzQJlMe0EYDYToMg2IpEWBNbwWwZRrwSmExB4IoR3ULEQdA bCkAIFtTTVRQOmpTBGAokUBnKWUuBaBtfl0f9R7QBmACMCfpHNBhGnka8E0KwBDwIDA5ARrwMTk5 OCA4OpQwNRFwTSuXVG8n5y0d0kwEAAVARwNgdXA5KTBFLRgBKcArmHVi1mofgSfnWx3RXQYABQDx CeEgQ2EFMBeREMAkb9cleSEWFrY0H/pXG3IFoLxudgSQHVME8TOiYzP1+x2WAhByAMAFQANSHcAc gcUtcGseQTYuNRrwHCH3H/Q0MQbwdR8SGUIcJwQgYwQAGnRseSABAAnAYcEBAGQuICBFOIAYcbcB gB5BOnFjG+Ef9EQwYd8DEBmwHlEX4DuQZTDgPxF+eQTwB0A9txmBIUARYESkUEk/cUFuPtBpAQDv GdAZQAOgHCJiB5AiECADtnctMBfCcDIgIRBzG0D/Q4U4/zzQHBEZgRwiPLkEAP8f9BgGCYA6Yh3D EsAYIRvi6iEf+k4h0TocEzkEBCD+dwSQF2A5dRzgQ1hCORzCd0tjGKAEkGYfgT7AH/Rk3mkJcFEC Ot874C5TUB/6/lI/AAsRBCAo5ChzH/QqX/sDcB/6KyKzWB9ZL1o/W07uK1dlHcM+QXMdIACAKJEF HOBiPtBFTUVSR35FPAMRcAUAHsAZgR3SU/9QsECAB0AwYQQgYF1cVzIR8wTyRTAvVQCAYfZNAAMw CnUDIGgCQHA6Ly8KZQeAchyQLnBkZm56AiBkYCtRLzyyCHBj1QeQL2ADLmOgbQlQY3D/EWBhR1tP aG9pf2qPXBkTgQIAbJAAAAADABAQAAAAAAMAERAAAAAAAwCAEP////9AAAcwkKVdboBLvQFAAAgw kKVdboBLvQELAACACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAADhQAAAAAAAAMAAoAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAA AABGAAAAABCFAAAAAAAAAwAFgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAUoUAALcNAAAeACWACCAGAAAA AADAAAAAAAAARgAAAABUhQAAAQAAAAQAAAA4LjAAAwAmgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAAYUA AAAAAAALAC+ACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAAOhQAAAAAAAAMAMIAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABG AAAAABGFAAAAAAAAAwAygAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAGIUAAAAAAAAeAEGACCAGAAAAAADA AAAAAAAARgAAAAA2hQAAAQAAAAEAAAAAAAAAHgBCgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAN4UAAAEA AAABAAAAAAAAAB4AQ4AIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAADiFAAABAAAAAQAAAAAAAAAeAD0AAQAA AAUAAABSRTogAAAAAAMADTT9NwAAmp0= ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD4B3D.E16BF980-- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Mar-1998 17:50:03-GMT,5725;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15491 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:50:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA31390; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:37:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:35:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA31317; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:35:24 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD4B3E.38F3A8B0@SPECWAR> From: Michael Peterson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Saving PDF in the browser Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:31:51 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD4B3E.38F3A8B0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD4B3E.38F3A8B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes they have to backup to the first link and go Save Target As... -----Original Message----- From: Paul Gowder [SMTP:paul@cmcog.state.sc.us] Sent: Monday, March 09, 1998 6:23 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Saving PDF in the browser I am working on publishing some of our publications in pdf. We want to allow users to both save them and view them online. After someone opens a pdf in the browser is there a way to save it or do they have to click on the link first, and "save link as". thanks for your help in advance ____________________________________ Paul Gowder Research Planner and Webmaster Central Midlands Council of Governments +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD4B3E.38F3A8B0 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IgURAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEkAYAsAEAAAEAAAAQAAAAAwAAMAIAAAAL AA8OAAAAAAIB/w8BAAAASQAAAAAAAACBKx+kvqMQGZ1uAN0BD1QCAAAAAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6 b25lLmNvbQBTTVRQAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6b25lLmNvbQAAAAAeAAIwAQAAAAUAAABTTVRQAAAA AB4AAzABAAAAFgAAAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6b25lLmNvbQAAAAMAFQwBAAAAAwD+DwYAAAAeAAEw AQAAABgAAAAncGRmQGxpc3RzLnBkZnpvbmUuY29tJwACAQswAQAAABsAAABTTVRQOlBERkBMSVNU Uy5QREZaT05FLkNPTQAAAwAAOQAAAAALAEA6AQAAAB4A9l8BAAAAFgAAAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6 b25lLmNvbQAAAAIB918BAAAASQAAAAAAAACBKx+kvqMQGZ1uAN0BD1QCAAAAAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5w ZGZ6b25lLmNvbQBTTVRQAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6b25lLmNvbQAAAAADAP1fAQAAAAMA/18AAAAA AgH2DwEAAAAEAAAAAAAAAvlbAQSAAQAkAAAAUkU6IFtQREZdIFNhdmluZyBQREYgaW4gdGhlIGJy b3dzZXIAgQsBBYADAA4AAADOBwMACQAJAB8AMwABAD0BASCAAwAOAAAAzgcDAAkACQAfACkAAQAz AQEJgAEAIQAAADQ0ODlEMUM0NzBCN0QxMTE5NkM3MDA2MDk3NTk1MjFBAOIGAQOQBgCoBgAAIQAA AAsAAgABAAAACwAjAAAAAAADACYAAAAAAAsAKQAAAAAAAwAuAAAAAAADADYAAAAAAEAAOQDAfCA/ gUu9AR4AcAABAAAAJAAAAFJFOiBbUERGXSBTYXZpbmcgUERGIGluIHRoZSBicm93c2VyAAIBcQAB AAAAGwAAAAG9S39cgcTRiTK3cBHRlscAYJdZUhoAAHcQsAAeAB4MAQAAAAUAAABTTVRQAAAAAB4A HwwBAAAAGAAAAHBldGVyc29ubUBpbmZpbnRlY2guY29tAAMABhAWXWAPAwAHEPYCAAAeAAgQAQAA AGUAAABZRVNUSEVZSEFWRVRPQkFDS1VQVE9USEVGSVJTVExJTktBTkRHT1NBVkVUQVJHRVRBUy0t LS0tT1JJR0lOQUxNRVNTQUdFLS0tLS1GUk9NOlBBVUxHT1dERVJTTVRQOlBBVUxAAAAAAAIBCRAB AAAAfAMAAHgDAACmBQAATFpGdVfxIXMDAAoAcmNwZzEyNXYyAPQB9yACpAPjAgBjgmgKwHNldDAg BxOHAoMAUA+2cHJxMhC2Zn0KgAjIIDsJbw4wNTMCgAqBdWMAUAsDbGm0MzYBQGMAQQtgbg4QWDAz MwqgA2B0BZB0CQumIFkHkXRoZXkSIBBAdmUYMG8gYjEA0Gt1cBjSGEEgZo5pEGAFQBXQbmsgAHC4 ZCBnGPAGEBixVArA5mcQgBCwcy4b8AqiCoT/HGgXFAFACwQXFRXQAcEWIUMC0RFiMTYgLR/STz0F EGcLgAdABdAHkHNhHxuQH9Mc7x36GfAtMTT2NAFAFdAyH6ABQAzQI3OoYiBGA2E6DINiEKCIUGF1 AyBHb3cEgYAgW1NNVFA6CrCRJbBAY20FoGcuGiAGYRcwJ1BjLnVzXV8cJSSgBmACMCUHTQIgZDhh eSwF0ArAEDAgMAI5KeAxOTk4IDYoOjIzELBNKCdUb+ElB3BkZkAV0BogG+BdLKF6AiAnoAWgbSgo dQxiahdBJQdbUERGtl0bAguAZyWAL6AgC4DVGaNiA2B3EHByIX8d/ysWIwu0NBwqSRqQbSD6dwWw azASAiAskC6QLOGaaDAScwNwGMBvZjXQ6whwNgRjJ4BpAiAEIDCRoSyhLiAgVxjAdwBw/wVAGOAc JAdACQAH4CfwBJD/GCEY8RcgKkAg4BiyGFA1QP8aojAAB9E7cwIgGlEnoDjAvkEBgCYhNsItgTXQ cAnw/QQgYRwkLKEwjTCAGCMJcN8akDkBGHAY4TsjaQVABbH2ZBmTGHhjN7EagDXhGEHfHCQaUxnz KeAaoiI7IxpU3HMiHBsYQABwawQgAhBtBcB5N0IYUGwZYDCRYbRkdgBwY0OVHCRfSW9dSn9fHCQl mRwkUgeQZX0qE1AWcS2QBcAaojjgYlcAwBogMVZDKMFyIIJp+mQWcWQEIAhRSHADETcRfyXgGLAE oAeAAjAQABw5K98f01LfU+9U/1YOK1IlMET5BCBzcDgRBbAJgBkAGHDARU1FUkdFKeAZsrpBBQBv GRAFQDBSUz4g/1CgB0As8jjAWxxXFy6BBPKwYmUvVQCAXLY6OMALDGADIGgCQHA6Ly/vO5AEkBuQ LTovCXA2wAhw2UiAcy8s5F5gbQlQJbD/EKBcB1YPYy9kP2VPVtkSwQIAZ1ADABAQAAAAAAMAERAA AAAAAwCAEP////9AAAcw8BXCOIFLvQFAAAgw8BXCOIFLvQELAACACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAA AAADhQAAAAAAAAMAAoAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAABCFAAAAAAAAAwAFgAggBgAAAAAAwAAA AAAAAEYAAAAAUoUAALcNAAAeACWACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAABUhQAAAQAAAAQAAAA4LjAA AwAmgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAAYUAAAAAAAALAC+ACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAAO hQAAAAAAAAMAMIAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAABGFAAAAAAAAAwAygAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAA AEYAAAAAGIUAAAAAAAAeAEGACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAA2hQAAAQAAAAEAAAAAAAAAHgBC gAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAN4UAAAEAAAABAAAAAAAAAB4AQ4AIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABG AAAAADiFAAABAAAAAQAAAAAAAAAeAD0AAQAAAAUAAABSRTogAAAAAAMADTT9NwAAS4s= ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD4B3E.38F3A8B0-- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Mar-1998 18:54:54-GMT,4108;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17279 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:54:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA00835; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:26:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:24:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA00691; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:24:19 -0600 Message-ID: <350433EF.3CBDAE99@beacon.com> Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 13:24:47 -0500 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] SGML vs PDF References: <002a01bd4b7e$76878f80$174df482@ulf> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > >To have answers ready when my customers ask, I am wondering how the > >current trend is in the US when it comes to SGML and PDF publishing: Do > >people tend to use PDF or SGML for publishing manuals for internal and > >external use? What about general publishing on intranets etc.? Which > >markets are dominated by PDF and which markets are dominated by SGML? Comparing SGML and PDF *technology* is an apples-to-oranges comparison, but nevertheless they are indirectly related. SGML is a technology that is focused more on robust content storage; PDF is a technology that is focused more on display. What I see is that adoptance of the two technologies in different industries tends to reflect that focus, e.g., the aircraft and pharmaceutical industries are very into SGML, whereas the graphic arts industry is very into PDF. Of course, the common ground [ahem] between the two technologies is that they both provide (arguably) vendor-neutral and platform-independent ways to distribute information electronically. As a person who applies *both* technologies in scientific publishing in the US, I think I can safely say that for complex material, publishers have found it difficult to incorporate SGML into existing publishing processes without increased cost, and have turned to Acrobat as a transitional strategy for electronic distribution [which pretty smoothly feeds off the back end of existing PostScript-based print production]. This is not to say that publishers have abandoned or lost interest in SGML and its power, but I think many see that as a long-term goal and Acrobat as a short- to medium-term solution. We currently produce both for a number of our customers. XML was also mentioned. XML is intended to bring about technology that will simplify the distribution of documents stored in SGML, in turn lessening the need for PDF as an aid in those applications. It will also bring about technology that will increase the flexibility of presentation with web browsers, again lessening the need to go and use PDF in some situations. That doesn't mean PDF will cease to be a solution for scientific publishers, but just that it will become one tool in a toolbox of greater variety. [Additional, I, for one, am interested in the ways XML and PDF technology could be integrated together.] In any case, I'm not seeing situations (in scientific publishing, at least) where a choice is made *between* SGML and PDF. I don't think a comparison of that nature even makes sense. The value of both is clearly recognized in this industry. I believe publishers are investing money, time, and effort into whatever technologies can help them, based on what they need to do--and that's an approach I highly support. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Mar-1998 19:59:15-GMT,1636;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA18898 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:59:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA02638; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:26:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:24:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02593; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:24:33 -0600 Message-Id: From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: "'Post to PDF listserve'" Subject: [PDF] IntraDoc info Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:24:00 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi PDF's I have received a few inquiries for more information on the IntraDoc Doc. management product I posted about. Here it is: Product: Intra.doc! Company: Intranet Solutions, Incorporated 9625 West 76th St., Suite 150 Eden Prairie, MN 55344 Phone: 800/989-8774 OR 612/903-2000 FAX: 612/829-5424 URL: www.intranetsol.com rebecca +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Mar-1998 20:42:43-GMT,2192;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA19925 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:42:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA03790; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:16:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:15:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA03718; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:15:09 -0600 X-Sender: wow@mail.wowpages.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01BD4B3C.552F3500@SPECWAR> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:19:47 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Briggs Subject: RE: [PDF] Saving PDF in the browser Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 What I do, at least in Netscape, is Save As (with the pdf in the browser), then select Source. -- Steve >I am working on publishing some of our publications in pdf. We want to >allow users to both save them and view them online. After someone opens a >pdf in the browser is there a way to save it or do they have to click on the >link first, and "save link as". > >thanks for your help in advance > >____________________________________ >Paul Gowder >Research Planner and Webmaster >Central Midlands Council of Governments **************************************************************** Steve Briggs http://www.wowpages.com/ Wow Pages, Inc. 1.800.WOW.1032 Web Site Design and Hosting ME 207.741.2570 steve@wowpages.com VT 802.860.6682 **************************************************************** +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Mar-1998 20:44:16-GMT,3233;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA19958 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:44:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA04296; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:31:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:30:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA04191; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:30:03 -0600 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E011D6D@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Saving PDF in the browser Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:29:23 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Paul, Depending on the browser that they are using, there are many ways the user can save the link. 1. Holding the shift key in netscape as you click the link pops up a save as dialog box - unfortunately this will only work where the link is a anchor pointing to a file location, rather than a cgi call to a script which returns the PDF. 2. If the PDF is being rendered within the browser you can often choose the browsers "save as", or "save frame as" to save the file. 3. If you are using Acrobat Exchange, then you can use RTSJoust [downloadable from our website http://www.roundtable.com.au/fr_plugins.htm - it adds a "disk" icon to the Acrobat toolbar inside the browser], we had exactly the same requirements for our clients. Unfortunately this will not work with the Reader, due to the restriction of plugins not being allowed to save files. regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions - SendMail with Acrobat Exchange, download RTSJoust! http://www.roundtable.com.au > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Gowder [SMTP:paul@cmcog.state.sc.us] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 12:23 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Saving PDF in the browser > > > I am working on publishing some of our publications in pdf. We want > to > allow users to both save them and view them online. After someone > opens a > pdf in the browser is there a way to save it or do they have to click > on the > link first, and "save link as". > > thanks for your help in advance > > ____________________________________ > Paul Gowder > Research Planner and Webmaster > Central Midlands Council of Governments > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Mar-1998 20:44:56-GMT,4933;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA19979 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:44:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA03972; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:22:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:21:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA03926; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:21:31 -0600 From: rjwolfe@bna.com Message-Id: <9803098894.AA889475044@dcns.bna.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.11.00.3 Date: Mon, 09 Mar 98 15:12:55 -0500 To: Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] SGML vs PDF MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 It really is not appropriate to compare SGML and PDF. SGML is an output-independent metalanguage used to describe the structure and content of documents in a standardized way so that the data become more portable and reusable. PDF is a DELIVERY format that makes the documents themselves portable, but does not carry information about a document's structure or content. SGML documents can be delivered in PDF, HTML, (eventually) XML, or can be programatically converted to just about any ouptut format desired. Based on and using the document's SGML coding, each delivery (print, CD, web, etc.) can include whichever of the original document's data elements are appropriate and each data element can have a unique appearance. SGML is useful when you want to prepare a single version of a highly, structured document and deliver it in several different formats. PDF documents can be delivered only in PDF; they appear as the original document. To deliver in any other format, you need to go back to and convert the original document. If that document is not an SGML document, your immediate delivery options may be limited and you may have to do extensive reworking/recoding of the original data. Preparing SGML documents may take more time, but it may save you time later. You need to evaluate what information ABOUT your data you want or need to capture, and how that data might be delivered now and in the future. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: [PDF] SGML vs PDF Author: at INTERNET Date: 3/9/98 6:11 PM If I understand it correctly, SGML stands for Standard General Markup Language and have nothing to do with PDF that is a way to distribute information, while SGML is made to Markup a text. SGML can be used to control the structure of the document or to find marked information in the text. There is not many companies that have adopted SGML because it is complex and labor intensive so be careful before you take a decision. Regards Ulf -----Original Message----- From: Richard Taubo To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Date: den 9 mars 1998 12:43 Subject: [PDF] SGML vs PDF > >Hi all! > >To have answers ready when my customers ask, I am wondering how the >current trend is in the US when it comes to SGML and PDF publishing: Do >people tend to use PDF or SGML for publishing manuals for internal and >external use? What about general publishing on intranets etc.? Which >markets are dominated by PDF and which markets are dominated by SGML? > >I hope someone can provide some valuable information here. I am more >interested in the current trend people are facing than my specific >questions. > >Any input would be useful:) > >Regards, >Richard Taubo >Bergersen -- Norway >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Mar-1998 21:21:17-GMT,941;000000000001 Received: from microsoft.ease.lsoft.com (microsoft.ease.lsoft.com [206.241.12.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA20804 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:21:16 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199803092121.OAA20804@csc-sun.math.utah.edu> Received: from microsoft (206.241.12.10) by microsoft.ease.lsoft.com (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.3790A660@microsoft.ease.lsoft.com>; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:20:04 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:20:03 -0500 From: "L-Soft list server at Microsoft (1.8c)" Subject: Message ("Your message dated Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:10:37 -0700...") To: beebe@math.utah.edu Your message dated Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:10:37 -0700 (MST) with subject "Re: HTML Parser lib" has been forwarded to the new address of the ISAPI list, isapi@LISTSERV.15SECONDS.COM. Please send future messages directly to isapi@LISTSERV.15SECONDS.COM. 9-Mar-1998 21:21:46-GMT,3804;000000000001 Received: from VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (vms-backup.dc.lsoft.com [206.241.13.27]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA20824 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:21:43 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199803092121.OAA20824@csc-sun.math.utah.edu> Received: from peach (206.241.12.4) by VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <13.C703851D@VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM>; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:20:45 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:21:03 -0500 From: "L-Soft list server at LISTSERV.15SECONDS.COM (1.8c)" Subject: Rejected posting to ISAPI@LISTSERV.15SECONDS.COM To: beebe@math.utah.edu You are not authorized to send mail to the ISAPI list from your beebe@MATH.UTAH.EDU account. 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Beebe" Received: (from beebe@localhost) by plot79.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA06290; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:10:37 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:10:37 -0700 (MST) To: stkachov@briefing.com, "PDFDev" , "ISAPI-List" Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: HTML Parser lib Message-ID: Serge Tkachov writes: >> I am looking for an HTML parser library. The best choice is probably the freely-available SP parser written by James Clark; take a look at http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/sgml/ which has distributions in source and binary of SP 1.0.1. There is a somewhat newer version available from the author's ftp site, but I've not yet had time to do the builds here. SP is a general SGML parser; I recommend that over an HTML-specific one, since it will then be easier to track HTML and XML evolution in your own code. SP is written entirely in C++, and requires relatively recent features of the language; it stresses most vendor-provided C++ compilers to the breaking point. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 105 JWB beebe@acm.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9-Mar-1998 22:36:58-GMT,1996;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA23108 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:36:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA06734; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:09:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:05:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA06647; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:05:39 -0600 Message-Id: <199803092213.RAA19644@jupiter.netdepot.com> Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Capture Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:07:54 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: David Shauger To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello! We received a project that required scanning and converting to PDF to be placed on a CD-ROM. We invested in Acrobat Capture 2.0 and are running it on a 66mhz Compaq running NT 4.0. We would much prefer to run it on a 180mhz PowerMac but there is no Mac version at this time. We found the software incredibly slow in a inaccurate and have decided the project would not be completed in time. Is there any other project or service that can help us with this? The pages vary in size up to several feet with some of the CAD drawing, but most are standard black and white with text and graphics. They want the text searchable so we need it to OCR. Some pages are in color and have text on top of images. Thanks! Kill Plastic Bags!!! +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 9-Mar-1998 22:40:58-GMT,2993;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA23219 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:40:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA07581; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:31:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:30:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA07513; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:30:05 -0600 Message-ID: <35046B12.59A1@document-solutions.com> Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 14:20:02 -0800 From: Duff Johnson Organization: Document Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat Capture References: <199803092213.RAA19644@jupiter.netdepot.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 David Shauger wrote: > > Hello! > > We received a project that required scanning and converting to PDF to be > placed on a CD-ROM. We invested in Acrobat Capture 2.0 and are running it > on a 66mhz Compaq running NT 4.0. I hope you mean a "166mHz". not a "66".... > We found the > software incredibly slow in a inaccurate and have decided the project > would not be completed in time. You need superb-quality TIFFs to start... spend some time here! > Is there any other project or service that can help us with this? The > pages vary in size up to several feet with some of the CAD drawing, but > most are standard black and white with text and graphics. They want the > text searchable so we need it to OCR. Some pages are in color and have > text on top of images. You have an additional problem with these large-format materials. Capture can only accept TIFFs up to 20 inches or so in each dimension -- and sometimes not even then (depending on resolution). The limit for PDF files, BTW, is 44 x 44 inches. There are other ways of getting monster-TIFFs to PDF, usually involving a PS file stage, then distilling.... File sizes can get immense here, so watch out! Your "text on top of images" is a bear. We do this work (but we NEVER enjoy it), but if this your first time with Capture, I'd advise against doing it yourself. Hope this helps! Not sure you're going to like it, though.... -- regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1755 Broadway, Suite 520, Oakland, CA 94612 Phone: (510) 986-0250 Fax: (510) 986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com http://www.document-solutions.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Mar-1998 0:10:16-GMT,1656;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA25499 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:10:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA08970; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:38:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:36:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA08862; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:36:29 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD4BC5.583EE7C0.gradic@agora.ro> From: Gabriel Radic To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Embedding fonts Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 01:39:16 +0200 Organization: CPA X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello people, here's a big one: I have a magazine using a few fonts not embedded. The fonts are on my system. How can I embed them in the PDF file? Is listing the PDF and re-distilling enough? Peace! [=== GABRIEL RADIC ============ Layout/Graphics/Web Designer ===] [=== mailto:gradic@agora.ro === http://www.agora.ro/~gradic/ ===] +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Mar-1998 0:15:43-GMT,1629;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA25623 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:15:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA09552; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:52:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:51:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA09462; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:51:47 -0600 Message-ID: From: Webmaster To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Frame SaveAs PDF Issues Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:47:35 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We have Frame 5.5/Acrobat 3.01--5 copies--All PCs are Win/95. On 3 PCs, when you Save As PDF you either get a file flush on the distill or the color images come out in greyscale. The headings come out in the correct color. On the two other PCs the Save As produces accurate, color PDFs. Question--What setting are we missing? What is happening here? +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Mar-1998 0:38:36-GMT,2868;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA26113 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:38:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA10822; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:21:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:20:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA10753; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:20:17 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD4B7F.9D370380.john@vidcad.com> From: John Noe To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Capture Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:20:09 -0700 Organization: VidCAD, Inc. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 IMHO your problem lies somewhere between your machines manufacturer and it's processor speed. ;) - John Sarcasm aside, I also head up a project with lots o' scanning and OCR-ing and such for inclusion in a CD-ROM set... and we also deal with mucho line-art and CAD stuff. What seems to work well for us is to scan the hardcopies at 400 dpi (capture doesnt seem to like anything over that resolution for text) and output as TIFF. I've also tried outputting as PCX with no noticable improvement or regression. Have you ever thought of providing something like QuickView for your people to view certain graphics from your CD? Also, CAD drawings really enjoy being converted to WMF. WMF drawings are great for importing into all manner of documents later in life, and they don't lose their "vector-ish" properties. P.S. - PDF-ers, can someone explain my favorite Adobe error message? It goes something like: "This page has graphics other than images or text on it. It cannot be captured" That has to be one of the vaguest error messages i've ever seen. I'm going to implement this principle in my own error codes. How about: "This byte has binary digits other than one or zero in it. It cannot be processed." -----Original Message----- From: David Shauger [SMTP:dave@netdepot.com] Sent: Monday, March 09, 1998 3:08 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Capture Hello! We received a project that required scanning and converting to PDF to be placed on a CD-ROM. We invested in Acrobat Capture 2.0 and are running it on a 66mhz Compaq running NT 4.0. Kill Plastic Bags!!! +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Mar-1998 1:25:41-GMT,1814;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA27246 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:25:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA12349; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:03:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:02:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA12317; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:02:41 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 9 Mar 98 17:02 PST From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <01BD4B7F.9D370380.john@vidcad.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat Capture Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > P.S. - PDF-ers, can someone explain my favorite Adobe error message? > It goes something like: "This page has graphics other than images > or text on it. It cannot be captured" "Images", in Adobe-speak, normally means "bitmap images". I suspect "graphics other than images or text" refers to vector graphics. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html *Oppose bulk-mail abuse of your mailbox and newsgroups: http://spam.abuse.net* +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Mar-1998 2:18:27-GMT,2432;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA28409 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:18:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA14335; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:56:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:55:02 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA14262; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:55:00 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980310095635.007c4c70@199.100.100.12> X-Sender: ripi@199.100.100.12 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:56:35 +0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, "trevor joseph" From: "Raja Indra Putra (Ripi)" Subject: Re: [PDF] Problem printing from Acrobat Reader 3.01 forWindows 95 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 09:57 AM 3/3/98 -0500, you wrote: > >It seems that some HP Laserjets(or their drivers) have a bit of a problem with white text. One solution is to convert the text to curves prior to printing. > > Hope this helps > Trevor Joseph > > >Problem : A logotype consisting of a reverse type/font (white) on a solid >rectangle background (green) has the type/font missing when the PDF file is >printed using Win 95, resulting in a solid rectangle only. The logotype >appears okay on screen though. I used a HP LaserJet. >I used PageMaker 5.0 on the Mac. Tried both PDF Writer and Distiller. Same >results. Using an EPS of the logotype from FreeHand gave the same problem. >However, the files work fine on a Mac. Thanks Trevor! It works. Previously, I assumed when exporting to eps, all fonts are automatically converted to paths - now I know. So I'm converting the corporate logo in eps to paths so both Mac and *PC* users can use them without problems. Thanks once again. Ripi, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Mar-1998 6:15:58-GMT,1866;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA03709 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:15:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA23164; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:15:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:12:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA22988; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:12:03 -0600 Message-ID: <3504D972.7593@acm.org> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:10:58 -0600 From: "Stephen D. Poe" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDFdev] PDF Using Cyrillic Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 All - Does anyone have experience creating PDFs using Cyrillic fonts? Any issues above and beyond having to subset the fonts? How about maintaining search capability? Any other issues? Thanks, Stephen =================================================================== Stephen D. Poe, EDPP Chief Technology Officer GenText, inc. http://www.gentext.com sdpoe@acm.org -or- 972.857.0776 "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is." =================================================================== +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDFdev is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Mar-1998 6:38:01-GMT,1861;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA04122 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:38:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA23110; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:14:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:12:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA23010; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:12:06 -0600 Message-ID: <3504D972.7593@acm.org> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:10:58 -0600 From: "Stephen D. Poe" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF Using Cyrillic Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 All - Does anyone have experience creating PDFs using Cyrillic fonts? Any issues above and beyond having to subset the fonts? How about maintaining search capability? Any other issues? Thanks, Stephen =================================================================== Stephen D. Poe, EDPP Chief Technology Officer GenText, inc. http://www.gentext.com sdpoe@acm.org -or- 972.857.0776 "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is." =================================================================== +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Mar-1998 6:38:09-GMT,6189;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA04131 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:38:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA22974; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:11:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:05:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA22764; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:05:05 -0600 Message-ID: <3504D7CC.5671@acm.org> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:03:56 -0600 From: "Stephen D. Poe" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: ort@bergersen.no Subject: RE: [PDF] SGML vs PDF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Date: Mon, 9 Mar 98 12:26:53 -0000 > From: Richard Taubo > Subject: [PDF] SGML vs PDF > > Hi all! > > To have answers ready when my customers ask, I am wondering how the > current trend is in the US when it comes to SGML and PDF publishing: Do > people tend to use PDF or SGML for publishing manuals for internal and > external use? What about general publishing on intranets etc.? Which > markets are dominated by PDF and which markets are dominated by SGML? > I hope someone can provide some valuable information here. I am more > interested in the current trend people are facing than my specific > questions. > > Any input would be useful:) > > Regards, > Richard Taubo > Bergersen -- Norway Richard - (Please pardon me if I get pedantic. Being in Management now, I so rarely get to be pedantic anymore... :-) ) The question you ask is really an inappropriate comparison but is common in the marketplace because most vendors don't make any distinction. SGML is a (very pure) form of what is known as 'revisable-format-text' (RFT, not to be confused with MicroSoft's 'RTF'). RFT is a format within which the text is marked up with tags indicating its context, not its formatting. For example, the start of a new paragraph is marked up with a 'new paragraph' tag (e.g.,

in HTML, '/p' in RTF). A new chapter heading is marked with a 'new chapter' tag (i.e.,

in HTML, ':h1.' in IBM's GML). Tags indicate context, not how to format the context. For a new chapter header, you don't know how much space to allow before or after, whether to use a page break (or a break to an odd-numbered page), or what font and point size to set the header text in. You only know that you're starting a new chapter, and what the chapter title is. Examples of RFT are SGML, HTML (or at least HTML 3.2, the IE and Netscape extensions frequently violate this philosophy), IBM's GML and BookMaster, Xerox's XICS (I haven't had a chance to review DSC's Compuset to know if they kept it as a RFT format), and MS's RTF (although RTF does have some limited formatting specifications). PDF is a version of 'final-format-text' (FFT). FFT is a format within which the text has already been formatted (or composed) for the page. All decisions such as line and page breaks, point sizes, and placement on the page have already been made. All context-related information has been removed (and results in a loss of information). Only formatting commands remain. Examples of FFT are IBM's AFP, Xerox's Metacode, and Adobe's PDF. Each are appropriate for their own areas, but they are not mutually exclusive. Typically documents are created in an RFT format and transformed into an FFT format prior to display or print. You can create and store documents in SGML and then convert them to PDF. SGML is a format for the creation, storage, and structured retrieval of documents, not for their display or printing. PDF is a format for the storage, viewing, and printing of document, but typically not for their initial creation (not too many people create directly in PDF - otherwise we wouldn't need Distiller and the PDFWriter). Which is best? It depends on the business needs of the applications you are working on. For example: If you needed to do a very structured retrieval of information (e.g., give me all the reports written by 'Poe' whose first draft was between Jan. 97 and March 97 and which have 'SGML' and 'PDF' in the abstract), you would want to use SGML to create and store the documents. Not to view or print the documents - SGML doesn't view or print by itself (unless you view the source code). You'd need some formatting process to view or print the SGML documents. If you needed to produce and distribute documents that retained very close to the exact same fidelity everywhere (including line and page breaks, pagination, and font characteristics (such requirements are common in heavily regulated industries in the US such as the financial and insurance industries)), you'd use PDF for distribution. But you'd still have to have some process (and format) to create the original documents. In terms of market domination, there isn't much by either side. SGML has made strong inroads into some very specialized information areas (Commercial Aircraft documents, academic text studies, and Department of Defense documentation are three which come to mind). PDF is growing in many areas but is still regarded as primarily a PC-based format (although that is changing). Hope this helps, Stephen =================================================================== Stephen D. Poe, EDPP Chief Technology Officer GenText, inc. http://www.gentext.com sdpoe@acm.org -or- 972.857.0776 "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is." =================================================================== +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Mar-1998 8:31:39-GMT,2287;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA06639 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 01:31:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA26425; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 02:08:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 02:07:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA26382; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 02:07:13 -0600 >Received: from amg-uucp.amg.de by amg.de with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0yCJuj-000LW9C; Tue, 10 Mar 98 08:57 MET Message-ID: <3504F1AF.2E0309C3@amg.de> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:54:23 +0100 From: Nadya Gobran X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Re: Fonts looking really bad in PDF Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Steven, thank you very much for your help. It was the solution for the fuzzy fonts. Sometimes it is just the small things which make a big difference. Greetings Nadya - Mit freundlichen Grüßen i.A. Nadya Gobran AMG Industrie Consulting GmbH Phone: (49) 2 31 / 97 53 54 - 0 Fax: (49) 2 31 / 97 53 54 - 55 E-Mail: nago@amg.de Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:24:00 -0500 From: "Steven M. Aparicio" Subject: [PDF] Fonts looking really bad in PDF Nadya, As to your second question, under file>preferences>general, make sure that the "Smooth Text and monochrome images" is not checked. This should clear up the fuzzy font issue. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Mar-1998 9:53:15-GMT,2324;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA08350 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 02:53:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA28417; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 03:31:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 03:28:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA28314; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 03:28:46 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD4C06.EDDF6FC0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Frame SaveAs PDF Issues Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:10:27 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This happened to me. I found I could stop it happening by 1. Making sure I had selected a colour PostScript printer driver before doing Save as PDF 2. For that printer, entering printer setup and choosing Optimize for Portability. However, there is something strange. This was not necessary originally, but became necessary after I uninstalled Frame 5.1. Once I deleted and reinstalled the AdobePS printer driver it worked reliably again without the steps above. Tip: if the Distiller flushes a job, check the log file written to see why. Aandi On Monday, 9 March, 1998 23:48, Webmaster [SMTP:webmaster@InPower.com] wrote: > > We have Frame 5.5/Acrobat 3.01--5 copies--All PCs are Win/95. On 3 PCs, > when you Save As PDF you either get a file flush on the distill or the > color images come out in greyscale. The headings come out in the correct > color. On the two other PCs the Save As produces accurate, color PDFs. > > Question--What setting are we missing? What is happening here? > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Mar-1998 14:39:16-GMT,3702;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14217 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:39:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA04195; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:20:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:17:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA04061; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:17:46 -0600 X-Sender: dstabb@mail.pit-magnus.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3504D7CC.5671@acm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:26:23 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "David Stabb" Subject: RE: [PDF] SGML vs PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Stephen Poe writes: >Richard - > >(Please pardon me if I get pedantic. Being in Management now, I so >rarely get to be pedantic anymore... :-) ) Well! Now you've created the opening, the rest of us managers can become pendantic too. You'll regret this. > Tags indicate context, not how to format the context. For >a new chapter header, you don't know how much space to allow before or >after, whether to use a page break (or a break to an odd-numbered page), >or what font and point size to set the header text in. You only know >that you're starting a new chapter, and what the chapter title is. There are really several types of tags and reasons for them. Generally, it's said that SGML indicates *structure* not format, however there are also content tags in addition to structure tags. Examples might include tags setting off particular concepts that do not appear in so many words in text, or product identification tags inserted into experimental data so that special indices might be built. In real world SGML, there is also room for a processor-instruction tag, which will give information to a specific output device or program as to how to present the material. All of the above notwithstanding, there are SGML-related ways to handle formatting, the notorious FOSI and DSSSL standards. For Web presentation, the DSSSL-O standard also exists. With the advent of XML, a style sheet specification is part of the standard, XSL. XSL is a subset of the DSSSL standard. For reference on SGML in general and a good jumping off point, try http://www.sgmlopen.org >PDF is a version of 'final-format-text' (FFT). FFT is a format within >which the text has already been formatted (or composed) for the page. >All decisions such as line and page breaks, point sizes, and placement >on the page have already been made. All context-related information has >been removed (and results in a loss of information). Only formatting >commands remain. Examples of FFT are IBM's AFP, Xerox's Metacode, and >Adobe's PDF. But the information need not be lost forever, if you make use of pdfMark capability and embed the data inside your postscript, where it can be passed through in the PDF. ____|)avid / Progressive Information Technologies David Stabb / 315 Busser Road Director, New Media & / Emigsville, PA 17318 Electronic Products / Information Architects for Publishing +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Mar-1998 14:51:22-GMT,2861;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14504 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:51:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA04815; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:34:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:31:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA04663; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:31:43 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:32:55 -0500 From: "trevor joseph" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Problem printing from Acrobat Reader 3.01 forWindows95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA04660 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 You are most welcome. I am glad that it worked. Cheers Trevor Joseph >>> "Raja Indra Putra (Ripi)" 03/09 8:56 PM >>> At 09:57 AM 3/3/98 -0500, you wrote: > >It seems that some HP Laserjets(or their drivers) have a bit of a problem with white text. One solution is to convert the text to curves prior to printing. > > Hope this helps > Trevor Joseph > > >Problem : A logotype consisting of a reverse type/font (white) on a solid >rectangle background (green) has the type/font missing when the PDF file is >printed using Win 95, resulting in a solid rectangle only. The logotype >appears okay on screen though. I used a HP LaserJet. >I used PageMaker 5.0 on the Mac. Tried both PDF Writer and Distiller. Same >results. Using an EPS of the logotype from FreeHand gave the same problem. >However, the files work fine on a Mac. Thanks Trevor! It works. Previously, I assumed when exporting to eps, all fonts are automatically converted to paths - now I know. So I'm converting the corporate logo in eps to paths so both Mac and *PC* users can use them without problems. Thanks once again. Ripi, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Mar-1998 17:15:10-GMT,1879;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA18904 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:15:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA09928; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:33:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:32:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA09853; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:32:35 -0600 Date: 10 Mar 98 09:36:37 -0700 From: Dennis Walker Subject: [PDF] FDF mail merge To: PDF Mail List X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-ID: <1322600078-15200845@mail.inpractice.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA09850 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Is it possible with or without 3rd party plugins for a Reader user to access a FDF or other delimited text file to perform a type of mail merge into the fields of a PDF file? On a related note, is it possible to code into buttons of a PDF the import and export form data commands so that Reader users can gain access to these commands? TIA Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 x262 voice InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Mar-1998 18:54:06-GMT,1425;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA22004 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:54:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA14992; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:19:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:18:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA14911; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:18:10 -0600 Message-ID: <35058546.3E754F2B@col.ru> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:24:06 +0300 From: Maxim Gorodin Organization: Business Forms Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF error References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 The mistake can be because of wrong names of files or wrong work MacOpener. I use ISO 9660. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Mar-1998 18:55:29-GMT,2100;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA22053 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:55:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA15599; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:29:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:27:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15530; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:27:52 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD4C52.3CC64D20.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] FDF mail merge Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:20:05 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Tuesday, 10 March, 1998 16:37, Dennis Walker [SMTP:dennisw@inpractice.net] wrote: > > Is it possible with or without 3rd party plugins for a Reader user to access a FDF or other delimited text file to perform a type of mail merge into the fields of a PDF file? I think you could fill a form, and just by using the import function. You could not modify the PDF file or write any other kind of file from a Reader plug-in, but you could print. > > On a related note, is it possible to code into buttons of a PDF the import and export form data commands so that Reader users can gain access to these commands? Import, yes. Export, forbidden technically and under the terms of the Reader plug-in license (i.e. you can't do it directly and mustn't do it indirectly). Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Mar-1998 18:55:32-GMT,2774;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA22057 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:55:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA16395; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:46:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:44:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA16294; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:44:44 -0600 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1322600078-15200845@mail.inpractice.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:45:50 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] FDF mail merge Cc: Dennis Walker Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dennis, FDF is a specific file format. It has very little to do with a delimited text file. Importing FDF files in Reader is possible; however not manually via the Import Form Data menu command. The PDF must be appropriately set up. If the FDF is set up appropriately, it is also possible to open the FDF file, which will automatically get the correct PDF. Exporting form data from Reader is only possible over the Inter/Intranet. This is a current limitation imposed on the Reader functionality by Adobe. It is not legal to create a form export plug-in for the Reader which saves the FDF file locally. With Exchange, it is allowed, however. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap _____________ >Is it possible with or without 3rd party plugins for a Reader user to >access a FDF or other delimited text file to perform a type of mail merge >into the fields of a PDF file? > >On a related note, is it possible to code into buttons of a PDF the import >and export form data commands so that Reader users can gain access to >these commands? > >TIA > >Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net >EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 x262 voice >InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Mar-1998 19:57:39-GMT,2176;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23775 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:57:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA18388; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:33:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:31:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA18320; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:31:47 -0600 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:31:53 -0700 From: west@SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Sharon West) Subject: [PDF] PDF Classes X-Sender: west@popserv.slac.stanford.edu To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: X-Envelope-to: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello Folks: I recently started a new job where one of my main responsibilities is to become a PDF expert. My predecessor went to what my boss calls "PDF College", a four-day intensive training sponsored by Adobe. I have looked through Adobe's offerings and founding only two classes, which are geared towards programmers (which I am not). I am located in the Bay Area and wondered if any of you could recommend some comprehensive, indepth course work or programs that might help me. I currently use Capture and Acro Exchange for posting documents to the Web. I did find that Epublish (www.epublish.com) is offering an interesting course called "Electronic Publishing with Adobe Acrobat" in Madison, Wisconsin. Have any of you taken this course? Was it a worthwhile investment? Your help is appreciated, Sharon West E-Pubs Coordinator SLAC Technical Publications Department (650) 926-2594 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Mar-1998 20:19:07-GMT,2317;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA24440 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:19:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA19513; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:01:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:59:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19376; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:59:49 -0600 Date: 10 Mar 98 12:57:16 -0700 From: Dennis Walker Subject: RE: [PDF] FDF mail merge To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-ID: <1322588041-15925572@mail.inpractice.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA19372 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Reply to: RE: [PDF] FDF mail merge Aandi Inston wrote: >>Is it possible with or without 3rd party plugins for a Reader user to >>access a FDF or other delimited text file to perform a type of mail merge >>into the fields of a PDF file? > >I think you could fill a form, and just by using the import function. You >could not modify the PDF >file or write any other kind of file from a Reader plug-in, but you could >print. Can an FDF file only contain one "set" of field data (i.e. one record's data)? If that's the case, maybe this is a plugin opportunity to allow the file to be "merged" with a delimited text file to print (and save from Exchange) each records data. The applications could range from general office uses to variable data printing. Could be a biggie. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 x262 voice InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Mar-1998 21:08:48-GMT,2121;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25844 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:08:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA21214; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:41:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:39:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA21087; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:39:53 -0600 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:40:30 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: west@SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Sharon West) Subject: [PDF] PDF Classes Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello Folks: I recently started a new job where one of my main responsibilities is to become a PDF expert. My predecessor went to what my boss calls "PDF College", a four-day intensive training sponsored by Adobe. I have looked through Adobe's offerings and founding only two classes, which are geared towards programmers (which I am not). I am located in the Bay Area and wondered if any of you could recommend some comprehensive, indepth course work or programs that might help me. I currently use Capture and Acro Exchange for posting documents to the Web. I did find that Epublish (www.epublish.com) is offering an interesting course called "Electronic Publishing with Adobe Acrobat" in Madison, Wisconsin. Have any of you taken this course? Was it a worthwhile investment? Your help is appreciated, Sharon West E-Pubs Coordinator SLAC Technical Publications Department (650) 926-2594 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Mar-1998 16:05:45-GMT,2221;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16742 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:05:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA07810; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:39:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:37:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA07678; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:37:13 -0600 Message-ID: From: Robert Porter To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Weblink and IE problem Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:40:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I've had a few problems getting forms set up with IE4 and the new filler plugin. I was wondering is anyone out there has solved these particular problems and would be willing to let me in on it. A) WinNT: When I click on a submit button that submits the form data to an .asp page, the browser for some reason forwards on to an item in the Temporary Items directory. The page has the same layout as the resulting page should, but since it's in my temporary items directory, it doesn't have any images loaded and it doesn't execute the server script. B) On Windows 95, I get an error when I send FDF up from the server to the client. It says that it can't download/access the file and it attempts to blame the problem on the server/network/security. I'm sure this is just a configuration problem on my part, but for the life of me, I can't track it down. Any help? robert porter applications developer renaissance interactive +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Mar-1998 16:06:37-GMT,3056;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16778 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:06:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA08260; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:48:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:47:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA08199; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:47:46 -0600 From: JOEL.FINKLE@monsanto.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] SGML vs PDF Message-Id: <"0310154737-Re2: PDF SGML vs PDF"@MHS> Date: 10 Mar 1998 09:44:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Comparing SGML and PDF *technology* is an apples-to-oranges comparison, but >nevertheless they are indirectly related. SGML is a technology that is focused >more on robust content storage; PDF is a technology that is focused more on >display. What I see is that adoptance of the two technologies in different >industries tends to reflect that focus, e.g., the aircraft and pharmaceutical >industries are very into SGML, whereas the graphic arts industry is very into >PDF. SGML is a very attractive, but very expensive technology. For industries like Pharma, there needs to be an industry-wide agreement on the document structure. If you make the structure simple (Documents have headings, subheadings, etc.), you get little value. If you make it complex (A Clinical Report starts with an Abstract, an Introduction, a Materials and Methods section which has Justification, Materials, Procedure, etc...) you'll never finish your spec. Meanwhile, there is still the desire to match paper output, making PDF much more attractive while being very cheap to implement. SGML does have one application that is becoming widespread in use: Serious Adverse Event (side effect) reporting to agencies worldwide is now moving to a specification created by the International Conference on Harmonization. The rest of what is sent to government agencies is being done as PDF (mostly), HTML (pretty much just France) or TIFF Images (fading for documents, but still common for patient records). Since electronic documents are not the 'official' document for FDA (except for some limited, very simple items), conformance with the printed page is key. This makes PDF have a very high value, as it can pretty much guarantee equivalence to paper, regardless of software and hardware platforms. Joel Finkle G.D. Searle +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Mar-1998 18:01:47-GMT,2096;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20503 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:01:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA12655; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:33:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:31:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12545; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:31:32 -0600 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:32:09 -0600 To: From: BorgsmilleMJ@oaunx1.ctd.ornl.gov Subject: [PDF] Availability of Acrobat Reader On Windows CE Handheld PCs? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I was wondering has anyone tried or does anyone know if Adobe has any plans to support a version of Acrobat Reader on Windows CE Handheld PCs (H/PCs)? Per Microsoft's site over 500,000 have been sold and all are internet capable, see: http://www.microsoft.com/corpinfo/press/1998/Jan98/HandPCpr.htm Per Adobe's system requirements it looks like these 75MHz processor driven (H/PCs) could just meet the requirements outlined on Adobe's site at: http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/readersysreq.html These H/PC units presently support a trimmed down version of Microsoft's PowerPoint viewer, but it would be nice if a more open and yet WYSIWYG Adobe Acrobat solution was also viable on these H/PC platforms. Thus, when using them to browse web sites the presence of a PDF will not make them immediately croak. Cheers, Mike +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Mar-1998 18:04:12-GMT,1627;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20546 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:04:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA13086; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:41:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:40:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13024; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:40:30 -0600 X-Sender: rbroome@mail.psislidell.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:46:44 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Robert Broome Subject: [PDF] PDF error Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, I am new to this list and to PDF. can anyone tell me what the following Acrobat Reader error means: "Unrecognized Token BT->I". I get it when I try to open a PDF file on the Mac (using 3.01). I am told the file opens fine on a PC using 3.01. Any help would be appreciated. Ideally I would like to know if there is anything I can do to fix the problem so we can print this file. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 10-Mar-1998 23:59:17-GMT,3394;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00271 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:59:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA28676; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:28:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:25:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA28558; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:25:43 -0600 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1322588041-15925572@mail.inpractice.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:54:54 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: RE: [PDF] FDF mail merge Cc: Dennis Walker Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dennis, Unless there are some very well hidden features, a plain FDF file has one set of data. For a current project, I did some kind of mailmerge. I had a FileMaker Pro database which controls (via AppleScript) Exchange. It loads a FDF file into a given PDF and saves it to another name. Another possibility would be to add a "Next file" feature into the FDF, which could then be controlled with a simple script. I am not familiar enough with the JavaScript features, but there could be some possibilities as well. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ___________________ > Reply to: RE: [PDF] FDF mail merge >Aandi Inston wrote: >>>Is it possible with or without 3rd party plugins for a Reader user to >>>>>access a FDF or other delimited text file to perform a type of mail >>>merge >>into the fields of a PDF file? >> >>I think you could fill a form, and just by using the import function. You >>>could not modify the PDF >>file or write any other kind of file from a Reader plug-in, but you could >>>print. > >Can an FDF file only contain one "set" of field data (i.e. one record's >data)? If that's the case, maybe this is a plugin opportunity to allow the >file to be "merged" with a delimited text file to print (and save from >Exchange) each records data. The applications could range from general >office uses to variable data printing. Could be a biggie. > >Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net >EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 x262 voice >InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax > > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Mar-1998 4:44:43-GMT,2205;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA06574 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:44:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA06629; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:11:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:09:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA06548; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:09:47 -0600 Message-ID: <35060E46.5142@acm.org> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:08:38 -0600 From: "Stephen D. Poe" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: JOEL.FINKLE@monsanto.com Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] SGML vs PDF ( mildly off-topic FDA question) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On 10 Mar 1998 @ 09:44:09, JOEL.FINKLE wrote: ...text deleted... > Since electronic > documents are not the 'official' document for FDA (except for some > limited, very simple items), conformance with the printed page is key. ...text deleted... Joel - I had heard that the FDA had adapted an electronic format (runoured to be either PDF or MS Word) to accept NDAs and INDs. Apparently not true? I haven't been involved in the industry for a few years now, so it's more curiosity on my part. Thanks, Stephen =================================================================== Stephen D. Poe, EDPP Chief Technology Officer GenText, inc. http://www.gentext.com sdpoe@acm.org -or- 972.857.0776 "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is." =================================================================== +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Mar-1998 5:25:00-GMT,1827;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA07357 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:24:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA08297; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:02:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:00:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA08184; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:00:15 -0600 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E0169C2@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF FAQ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:59:40 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Does anyone know of the existence of a PDF FAQ (other than the FAQ maintained by VerTek [who do not seem to exist anymore] last updated November 1996? We were planning on producing/updating the FAQ, although we would not go ahead with it if it is already in production. Am I correct in my assumption of VerTek being defunct? Mail sent to their published addresses bounces at present. Assuming that no FAQ [recently updated] exists, are people interested in the production of a FAQ? Regards, Karl De Abrew Karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions http://www.roundtable.com.au +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Mar-1998 6:15:28-GMT,1774;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA08517 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:15:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA09965; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:50:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:49:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA09858; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:49:01 -0600 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:49:08 +1300 (NZDT) X-Sender: both@pop3.netaccess.co.nz (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19980306210813.009390c8@env-sol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Andrew R. Both" Subject: [PDF] learning script Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi everybody . Is there a good resource available prefeably in pdf to learn how to use the forms scripting language. ( I'm familair with some Director 5 lingo) Could this be part of the PDFMARK.PDF in Acrobat help files? ___________________________________________________ "Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils." Hector Berlioz (1803-1869). French composer. ___________________________________________________ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Mar-1998 8:27:10-GMT,3335;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA11238 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 01:27:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA13219; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 01:59:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 01:56:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA13123; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 01:56:11 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD4CC3.7B38DDE0.davec@docctrl.com> From: David Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF FAQ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 07:55:58 -0000 Organization: Computerised Document Control Ltd X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Karl We would welcome this. We took a stab at some articles (which are still on our Web site: www.docctrl.com/acroinfo.html) a couple of years back but ran out of bandwidth. We found we were doing Adobe's education for them and getting little reward. You are welcome to include anything from the above articles. We also need mundane stuff like Application Notes on how to set up an Invoice archive system/E-mail archive system, etc with Acrobat. We constantly get people calling us who could do everything they want with a copy or two of Acrobat 3.x and we simply do not have the time to the 1/2 hour on the phone with them explaining what to do. Regards drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat On 11 March 1998 06:00, Karl De Abrew [SMTP:karl@roundtable.com.au] wrote: > > Does anyone know of the existence of a PDF FAQ (other than the FAQ > maintained by VerTek [who do not seem to exist anymore] last updated > November 1996? > > We were planning on producing/updating the FAQ, although we would not go > ahead with it if it is already in production. > > Am I correct in my assumption of VerTek being defunct? Mail sent to > their published addresses bounces at present. > > Assuming that no FAQ [recently updated] exists, are people interested in > the production of a FAQ? > > Regards, > > Karl De Abrew > Karl@roundtable.com.au > Round Table Solutions > http://www.roundtable.com.au > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Mar-1998 8:27:12-GMT,4679;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA11239 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 01:27:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA13218; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 01:59:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 01:55:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA13090; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 01:55:39 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD4CC3.681237C0.davec@docctrl.com> From: David Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: Re[2]: [PDF] SGML vs PDF ( mildly off-topic FDA question) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 07:47:10 -0000 Organization: Computerised Document Control Ltd X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Last year the FDA produced a Guidance Note called: Guidance for Industry Archiving Submissions in Electronic Format - NDAs Section III, File Formats, states: III. FILE FORMATS FOR ARCHIVING SUBMISSIONS This section describes the file formats for electronic documents and data sets that CDER is prepared to archive. CDER may not be able to archive and review a submission that does not conform to this guidance and, therefore, may be unable to file the submission in electronic format. As with a paper submission, FDA may refuse to file an application if it is not submitted as required in 21 CFR 314.101. Electronic archival document submissions should (1) display a clear, legible, easily viewed replica of the information that was originally on paper; (2) provide the ability to print an exact replica of each page as it would have been printed in a paper submission, including retaining fonts, special orientations, table formats and page numbering; (3) include a well-structured index and the ability to easily navigate through the submission; (4) offer the ability to electronically copy text and images; and (5) serve as a substitute for paper copies. These goals can be accomplished by using Adobe Acrobat Portable Document Format (PDF). The Agency recognizes that this format has limitations with regard to data submission. In a future revision to this guidance, CDER will recommend formats for submitting data sets. The following recommendations will help create electronic submissions using PDF that CDER can handle efficiently. The complete document may be found at http://www.fda.gov/cder/guidance/index.htm Regards drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat On 11 March 1998 04:09, Stephen D. Poe [SMTP:sdpoe@acm.org] wrote: > > On 10 Mar 1998 @ 09:44:09, JOEL.FINKLE wrote: > ...text deleted... > > Since electronic > > documents are not the 'official' document for FDA (except for some > > limited, very simple items), conformance with the printed page is key. > ...text deleted... > > Joel - > > I had heard that the FDA had adapted an electronic format (runoured to > be either PDF or MS Word) to accept NDAs and INDs. > > Apparently not true? > > I haven't been involved in the industry for a few years now, so it's > more curiosity on my part. > > Thanks, > Stephen > =================================================================== > Stephen D. Poe, EDPP Chief Technology Officer > GenText, inc. http://www.gentext.com > sdpoe@acm.org -or- 972.857.0776 > "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, > but in practice, there is." > =================================================================== > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- ---+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Mar-1998 10:27:27-GMT,2104;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA13593 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 03:27:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA16354; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 04:09:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 04:08:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA16316; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 04:08:06 -0600 X-Sender: gcosimin@mail-345 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <2.2.32.19980306210813.009390c8@env-sol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 05:09:44 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Gary Cosimini Subject: Re: [PDF] learning script Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Hi everybody . >Is there a good resource available prefeably in pdf to learn how to use the >forms scripting language. ( I'm familair with some Director 5 lingo) >Could this be part of the PDFMARK.PDF in Acrobat help files? The Help files that install automatically with the new Acrobat Forms update are found in Acrobat's Help folder. They also can be launched from Acrobat's Help menu. They are: AcroJS.pdf--aka TechNote 5186. this describes the commands understood by the plug-in FORMS.PDF--this is the general Forms Help file JSSpec.pdf--this describes JavaScript language Also, check out the Acrobat Fomrs examples recently posted on Adobe's web site under New Plug-ins and Updates. Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems Inc. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Mar-1998 14:46:50-GMT,3587;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA18527 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 07:46:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA24520; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:28:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:27:02 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA24412; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:26:59 -0600 From: JOEL.FINKLE@monsanto.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, sdpoe@acm.org Subject: Re[3]: [PDF] SGML vs PDF ( mildly off-topic FDA question) Message-Id: <"0311142647-Re3: PDF SGML vs PDF ( mildly off-topic FDA question)"@MHS> Date: 11 Mar 1998 08:21:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 sdpoe@acm.org wrote: >On 10 Mar 1998 @ 09:44:09, JOEL.FINKLE wrote: >...text deleted... >> Since electronic >> documents are not the 'official' document for FDA (except for some >> limited, very simple items), conformance with the printed page is key. >...text deleted... > >Joel - > >I had heard that the FDA had adapted an electronic format (runoured to >be either PDF or MS Word) to accept NDAs and INDs. > >Apparently not true? As a previous poster showed, the FDA guidance on electronic submissions states that PDF meets the requirements of page conformance between paper and electronic, and is being adopted as the standard. There are two very important points to note about the Guidance (which is from the Center for Drugs. The Center for Biologics is just now coming out with their guidance, which is a little different) 1) The guidance so far is aimed at producing an *archivable* submission. This means that it should be retrievable and readable for years in the future [maybe PDF might be good for this :_) ]. This is as opposed to a *reviewable* submission, which is designed to be part of the review process to aid in the time and quality of review of drug sponsor's products. The Center for Biologics is stressing reviewability, and hopefully the two groups will meet in the middle. 2) So far the guidance only covers two areas of a New Drug Application (NDA) [and note it's only NDA's, not Investigational New Drug submissions (permission to begin human testing) or even Supplemental NDAs at this time]: Case Report Forms (typically images of patient data records) and Case Report Tabulations (data listings). These are two of the simplest areas of an NDA, with rather straightforward structure to the documents and easily described hyperlinking and indexing needs. On the other hand, they can be more than half of a submission in its total paper volume, but for the most part are not heavily used during review, versus statistical tables, experimental results, etc. These two areas are approved as electronic-only documents. There is no need to submit the paper for those two document types. FDA's goal is to allow fully-electronic submissions by 2002. They will be adding new document types as time goes on. Joel Finkle G.D. Searle +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Mar-1998 17:28:36-GMT,3555;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22614 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:28:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA02900; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:57:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:54:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA02660; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:54:30 -0600 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <882565C4.005B9085.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:52:06 -0800 Subject: Re: Re[2]: [PDF] mildly off-topic FDA question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 In September of last year, the FDA put out a Guidance for Industry regarding Archive Submissions in electronic format. This Guidance paper relates directly to the "Electronic Records; Electronic Signatures" regulation published on March 20, 1997. [21 CFR Part 11] In this Guidance paper they (FDA) state that they will accept Subsection 1.11 and Subsection 1.12 (NDA) in PDF format as the official archive copy. This guidance document is "the first in a series that will be issued on archiving electronic submissions." Fonts, page orientation, links and bookmarks, doc info fields, and naming of PDF files are all covered in the September 1997 guidance document. At a meeting I attended in September, FDA representatiaves stated that they had "draft" guidance documents prepared for subsections 6 and 8. I haven't seen anything final yet. SLG "Stephen D. Poe" on 03/10/98 08:08:38 PM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: JOEL.FINKLE@monsanto.com (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] SGML vs PDF ( mildly off-topic FDA question) On 10 Mar 1998 @ 09:44:09, JOEL.FINKLE wrote: ...text deleted... > Since electronic > documents are not the 'official' document for FDA (except for some > limited, very simple items), conformance with the printed page is key. ...text deleted... Joel - I had heard that the FDA had adapted an electronic format (runoured to be either PDF or MS Word) to accept NDAs and INDs. Apparently not true? I haven't been involved in the industry for a few years now, so it's more curiosity on my part. Thanks, Stephen =================================================================== Stephen D. Poe, EDPP Chief Technology Officer GenText, inc. http://www.gentext.com sdpoe@acm.org -or- 972.857.0776 "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is." =================================================================== +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Mar-1998 17:30:10-GMT,2466;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22666 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:30:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA03668; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:05:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:04:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03522; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:04:25 -0600 From: "Norman Brandsma" To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] PDF's and UNIX Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:03:59 -0700 Message-Id: <98031110040221.00378@ttgkami.edm.ttg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Internet MailBridge Gateway 1.33.160 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have been given this message from a consultant within the firm that I work for. As I am not familiar with UNIX standards, I'd like to verify that the information contained is accurate, especially that which is underlined. Any information would be greatly appreciated. File names should be typed in lower-case letters. Lower-case file names are the most transferable between different computer operating systems. They can move from all Intel platforms to Unix-based systems. This is important for files that contain hyperlinks. For example, it has been found that hyperlinks on PDF files created in Windows that have mixed case file names will not work on a Unix platform. Files may move to different operating systems depending on how they are delivered to the end user. The Unix platform is popular for Web servers so if there is any chance of documents being delivered via an Internet/ Intranet, lower-case file- naming conventions will avoid large-scale future rework. As a rule of thumb, lower-case filenames in 8.3 format will work on nearly any system. Norm Brandsma nbrandsma@ttg-inc.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Mar-1998 17:45:40-GMT,1784;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23125 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:45:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA06091; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:34:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:32:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05857; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:32:22 -0600 Message-Id: From: Susan Cook To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Linked PDFs on an intranet Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:32:35 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I manage our corporate intranet and we would like to place documentation from one of our vendors on-line. I have the CD that contains all the pdf files and have transferred them over to the intranet. Problem: Is there any way to have the links within the documents work amongst all the files without having each file downloaded to the desktop? There are hundreds of linked files, so obviously this is not an option. Thanks for any help you can give! Susan Cook Internet Specialist susan@ontario.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Mar-1998 18:07:46-GMT,2316;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA23862 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:07:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA07418; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:48:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:47:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07268; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:47:04 -0600 Message-ID: <3506C101.D67B8627@globalreach.net> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:51:17 -0500 From: Scottie Scott Organization: Graphics 2000 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; U; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] learning script References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hey Andrew, Get Acrobat 3.01 CD. On the CD you will find a 50 pages document on JavaScript. Good Luck. Scottie Andrew R. Both wrote: > Hi everybody . > Is there a good resource available prefeably in pdf to learn how to use the > forms scripting language. ( I'm familair with some Director 5 lingo) > Could this be part of the PDFMARK.PDF in Acrobat help files? > > ___________________________________________________ > > "Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils." > Hector Berlioz (1803-1869). French composer. > ___________________________________________________ > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Mar-1998 18:23:09-GMT,2428;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24344 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:23:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA09638; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:10:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:09:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09369; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:09:11 -0600 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <882565C4.00636915.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:06:57 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Linked PDFs on an intranet Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I think (!!!) that if the files are in a folder and the folder is copied from the CD to your server, all relative links should remain intact. Susan Cook on 03/11/98 09:32:35 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] Linked PDFs on an intranet I manage our corporate intranet and we would like to place documentation from one of our vendors on-line. I have the CD that contains all the pdf files and have transferred them over to the intranet. Problem: Is there any way to have the links within the documents work amongst all the files without having each file downloaded to the desktop? There are hundreds of linked files, so obviously this is not an option. Thanks for any help you can give! Susan Cook Internet Specialist susan@ontario.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Mar-1998 18:29:40-GMT,2772;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24509 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:29:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA10531; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:21:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:20:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA10397; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:20:40 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:17:22 -0600 From: Paul Schulte To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] SGML vs PDF ( mildly off-topic FDA question) - Reply Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Good day all, The FDA now requests our regulatory submissions be in PDF. I don't work in Regulatory Affairs so I can't add much more than that to this thread. Paul K. Schulte Medtronic, Inc. Configuration Assurance Phone #: 612/514-8349 Fax #: 612/514-8674 Email: paul.k.schulte@medtronic.com >>> "Stephen D. Poe" 03/10 10:08 pm >>> On 10 Mar 1998 @ 09:44:09, JOEL.FINKLE wrote: ...text deleted... > Since electronic > documents are not the 'official' document for FDA (except for some > limited, very simple items), conformance with the printed page is key. ...text deleted... Joel - I had heard that the FDA had adapted an electronic format (runoured to be either PDF or MS Word) to accept NDAs and INDs. Apparently not true? I haven't been involved in the industry for a few years now, so it's more curiosity on my part. Thanks, Stephen =================================================================== Stephen D. Poe, EDPP Chief Technology Officer GenText, inc. http://www.gentext.com sdpoe@acm.org -or- 972.857.0776 "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is." =================================================================== +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Mar-1998 18:30:11-GMT,2411;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24523 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:30:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA10678; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:22:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:22:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA10570; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:21:59 -0600 From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:22:11 -0700 (MST) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu, "Andrew R. Both" , Scottie Scott X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: [PDF] learning script Message-ID: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Further to "Andrew R. Both" 's query about forms scripting, I suggest a visit to http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/index.html#java ftp://ftp.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/java.bib where bibliographic entries for 174 books about JavaScript are to be found. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 105 JWB beebe@acm.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Mar-1998 18:31:35-GMT,2924;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24575 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:31:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA11387; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:30:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:28:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA11123; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:28:04 -0600 Message-ID: <3506D738.7ED1@srz-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:26:00 +0100 From: Helge Blischke Organization: SRZ BERLIN X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDFdev] Error Messages References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 JCaron1965 wrote: > > I have just published my first PDF document on a website that I maintain. > I've just looked at it here at home and was greeted with with two error > messages while viewing it in Explorer 3.0. The document is only 7 pages (65k) > with only one image and 40 external links in the text. On page 2 the message > reads something like, "unrecognized token..." followed by another that reads, > "parsing error...". Also, most of the page comes up blank. On page 5 the > message is "error processing page... problem reading document (114). > > Could someone please let me know what these messages mean and I would > especially appreciate finding out how I can fix the problem(s)?? I got my > boss all excited about using PDF and now I think I'm going to have some > explaining to do tomorrow... I would be grateful for any help anyone can > offer. > > Thanks! > It looks like the PDF file is created by distiller 3.0x with compatibility set to Acrobat 3.0 (for PDF Version 1.2), and youe internet explorer presumably launches Reader 2.0 or 2.1. If this is true, you could distill with the compatibility level set to 2.1 (but then, I think, byte serving won't work). The second possible explanation is that you communication channel to you web server is not "8 bit clean" or inserts some garbage somewhere in the PDF file. You could then force your distiller to produce ASCII output (checkbox or commandline option). Hope these hints might help Helge Blischke -- H.Blischke@srz-berlin.de H.Blischke@srz-berlin.com H.Blischke@acm.org +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDFdev is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Mar-1998 19:24:21-GMT,3186;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26131 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:24:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA13711; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:57:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:56:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA13555; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:56:10 -0600 Message-Id: <199803111836.TAA16808@d1o202.telia.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF's and UNIX Date: Wed, 11 Mar 98 19:33:24 -0000 x-sender: u222600675@m1.2226.telia.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Richard Taubo To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA13549 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Norman! I would definitely use the 8.3 format when saving pdf files (to allow windows 3.X users to able to use the files). It might be smart to use only lower-case, but I haven´t had any serious problems using mixed cases on a web server running on a Sun server. The "only" problem I faced with the latter was that the computer made all my files lowecase when I brought the pdf files from a cd to the computer. I don´t know why this happened, as I am not in charge of the Webserver, but I have found that this is not a problem if I am using FTP to send the pdf files over to the server. Best Regards, Richard Taubo Bergersen ltd. -- Oslo, Norway >I have been given this message from a consultant within the firm that I >work for. As I am not familiar with UNIX standards, I'd like to verify >that the information contained is accurate, especially that which is >underlined. Any information would be greatly appreciated. > > File names should be typed in lower-case letters. Lower-case file names >are the most transferable between different computer operating systems. >They can move from all Intel platforms to Unix-based systems. This is >important for files that contain hyperlinks. For example, it has been >found that hyperlinks on PDF files created in Windows that have mixed case >file names will not work on a Unix platform. Files may move to different >operating systems depending on how they are delivered to the end user. >The Unix platform is popular for Web servers so if there is any chance of >documents being delivered via an Internet/ Intranet, lower-case >file- naming conventions will avoid large-scale future rework. As a rule >of thumb, lower-case filenames in 8.3 format will work on nearly any system. > >Norm Brandsma >nbrandsma@ttg-inc.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Mar-1998 19:28:09-GMT,2734;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26204 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:28:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA14778; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:07:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:06:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14639; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:06:39 -0600 Message-Id: <199803111906.UAA23623@d1o202.telia.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Linked PDFs on an intranet Date: Wed, 11 Mar 98 20:04:09 -0000 x-sender: u222600675@m1.2226.telia.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Richard Taubo To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Susan! If you create links this way, it should not be a problem: 1) Make sure that you use exactly the same names and structure of your files in both environments (it might sound obvious, but it is sooo important). 2) Create links this way (it might be other options as well, but this has worked for me -- se e.g. http://forsvaret.bergersen.no:8080/standard/Standard.pdf): * Create a link * Set the Action menu within the link menu to: Open File * Press the Select File button, and browse to you get the file you are linking to. You might be able to link to a specific place within a document, I am not sure, but this probably does not work for people with browsers that do not support byteserving (mainly browsers (both Netscape and Explorer) older than 3.x and all versions (as far as I know) of Explorer for Win 3.1. By the way, byteserving makes it possible to download one page at a time. Maybe someone else has some feedback here?!? Best Regards, Richard Taubo Bergersen -- Oslo, Norway Susan wrote: >I manage our corporate intranet and we would like to place documentation >from one of our vendors on-line. I have the CD that contains all the pdf >files and have transferred them over to the intranet. Problem: Is there any >way to have the links within the documents work amongst all the files >without having each file downloaded to the desktop? There are hundreds of >linked files, so obviously this is not an option. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Mar-1998 19:34:51-GMT,1630;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26387 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:34:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA16676; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:27:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:26:02 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16475; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:26:00 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Czajka, Mark" To: "'PDF List'" Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Reader/ New forms Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:20:53 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Does Adobe intend to create a new Reader that combines the new Forms Update Fillin module into a single Reader installation? > ________The One-Off CD Shops - Washington, DC > _________________4590 Graphics Drive > _______________White Plains, MD 20695 > __________(301) 870-0480 or (800) 678-8760 > ________Internet: http://www.oneoffcd.ags.com > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Mar-1998 20:06:41-GMT,3600;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA27283 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:06:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA18020; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:41:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:40:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA17868; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:40:00 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980311194022.017c44f8@mailhost.fyi.sas.com> X-Sender: sasrzs@mailhost.fyi.sas.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:40:22 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Randy Stoltz Subject: Re: [PDF] Word 97->PDF and Resolution of Bitmaps? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 The default distiller settings downsample the color and grayscale bitmats to 72dpi. This renders most screen shots unreadable. As this value is maginal for printing and worthless for viewing online I don't know why adobe decided to make it the default (96 or 100 I could understand). Even for web use I downsample to at least 100dpi. But for all round use I set the downsample value to 200 and use zip/jpeg compression. This gives me a document I can both print and view online with acceptable results. For high resolution printing use a larger downsample value or turn off downsampling altogether. Note this rarely applies to sceen shots which are at screen resolution (unless you resample using graphics software) but can affect other bitmap images. At 04:32 PM 3/3/98 -0600, you wrote: > >We're going through the process of distilling a whole body of manuals >created in Word for Windows (6-8). Many of these docs have embedded >bitmaps, most are screen captures (some color, some monochrome). Most of >these were done at 8 bit, 800 x600. > >When we print out the Word docs the resolution of the shots is >acceptable. When we distill (using default Distiller settings) the >resolution of these is not acceptable on screen, and worse for print out >via laser. Can someone suggest Distiller settings for this? > >Our hope is to Docutech the these via PDF, in addition to providing web >accessability. We're trying to have a somewhat universal format for >these, with print being the most important output for the moment. > >Any help would be appreciated. > >Kenny >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > _____________________________________________________________________ Randy Stoltz SAS Institute Inc. Senior Programmer Analyst SAS Campus Drive Training and Technical Services Dept. Cary, NC 27513 USA Professional Services Division (919) 677-8000 ext.7350 ____________________________________________________________________ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Mar-1998 20:06:44-GMT,2834;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA27289 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:06:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA19525; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:57:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:56:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19463; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:56:10 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD4D27.BD356BA0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Word 97->PDF and Resolution of Bitmaps? Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:56:06 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Wednesday, 11 March, 1998 19:40, Randy Stoltz [SMTP:sasrzs@unx.sas.com] wrote: > > The default distiller settings downsample the color and grayscale bitmats > to 72dpi. This renders most screen shots unreadable. As this value is > maginal for printing and worthless for viewing online I don't know why adobe > decided to make it the default (96 or 100 I could understand). Even for web > use I downsample to at least 100dpi. But for all round use I set the > downsample value to 200 and use zip/jpeg compression. This gives me a > document I can both print and view online with acceptable results. For high > resolution printing use a larger downsample value or turn off downsampling > altogether. Note this rarely applies to sceen shots which are at screen > resolution (unless you resample using graphics software) but can affect > other bitmap images. The value is fine for photographs intended for JPEG compression and viewing online. I have gone down to 50 DPI with JPEG and still got results I found acceptable. Remember too the original aim of PDF: to help eliminate paper by providing documents requiring only online viewing. You may intend everything you produce to be printed; I don't. The aim of the defaults is the smallest possible file. This seems to me correct; most users won't change the defaults or be picky about quality. This avoids a lot of waste (not like the stupid, stupid profiles in the PageMaker 6.52 PDF export update, but that's another story). Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Mar-1998 20:07:19-GMT,4123;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA27310 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:07:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA18387; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:44:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:43:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA18298; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:43:30 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980311194314.0093596c@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:43:14 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF's and UNIX Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA18295 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Your files should be named according to the ISO 9660 standard. That standard requires that file names contain only uppercase letters, plus 0-9 and the underscore, and basically follow the 8.3 convention (but no extensions are allowed on directory names!) There are some other limitations, too -- refer to the standard itself for details. So, the recommendation to "...use only lower-case..." is really a bad idea. You will very likely have serious portability problems using anything other than ISO 9660-compliant file names. Tom Thiersch At 07:33 PM 3/11/98 -0000, you wrote: > >Hi Norman! > >I would definitely use the 8.3 format when saving pdf files (to allow windows 3.X users to able to use the files). It might be smart to use only lower-case, but I haven´t had any serious problems using mixed cases on a web server running on a Sun server. The "only" problem I faced with the latter was that the computer made all my files lowecase when I brought the pdf files from a cd to the computer. I don´t know why this happened, as I am not in charge of the Webserver, but I have found that this is not a problem if I am using FTP to send the pdf files over to the server. > >Best Regards, > >Richard Taubo >Bergersen ltd. -- Oslo, Norway > > > > >>I have been given this message from a consultant within the firm that I >>work for. As I am not familiar with UNIX standards, I'd like to verify >>that the information contained is accurate, especially that which is >>underlined. Any information would be greatly appreciated. >> >> File names should be typed in lower-case letters. Lower-case file names >>are the most transferable between different computer operating systems. >>They can move from all Intel platforms to Unix-based systems. This is >>important for files that contain hyperlinks. For example, it has been >>found that hyperlinks on PDF files created in Windows that have mixed case >>file names will not work on a Unix platform. Files may move to different >>operating systems depending on how they are delivered to the end user. >>The Unix platform is popular for Web servers so if there is any chance of >>documents being delivered via an Internet/ Intranet, lower-case >>file- naming conventions will avoid large-scale future rework. As a rule >>of thumb, lower-case filenames in 8.3 format will work on nearly any system. >> >>Norm Brandsma >>nbrandsma@ttg-inc.com >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Mar-1998 20:08:43-GMT,2262;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA27337 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:08:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA18319; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:43:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:42:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA18191; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:42:38 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD4D25.D9E600E0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Linked PDFs on an intranet Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:40:18 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Wednesday, 11 March, 1998 20:04, Richard Taubo [SMTP:ort@bergersen.no] wrote: > > Hi Susan! > > If you create links this way, it should not be a problem: > > 1) Make sure that you use exactly the same names and structure of your > files in both environments (it might sound obvious, but it is sooo > important). > > 2) Create links this way (it might be other options as well, but this has > worked for me -- > se e.g. http://forsvaret.bergersen.no:8080/standard/Standard.pdf): > > * Create a link > * Set the Action menu within the link menu to: Open File > * Press the Select File button, and browse to you get the file you are > linking to. That isn't what I'd recommend. Open file links aren't really intended for PDF files. GO TO VIEW links should be used for links between files, just as for links within files - open both in Exchange, side by side if you can. That way you can readily link to any page. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Mar-1998 20:21:14-GMT,5413;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA27630 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:21:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA21024; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:11:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:10:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20866; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:10:25 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD4D29.B92D6600.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF's and UNIX Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:10:18 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id OAA20847 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Tom, I searched the web in vain for a copy of the standard or the exact details of its naming restrictions. Any idea where to find it? It may be worth adding something about file naming in DOS/Windows. 1. In original DOS, all names are 8.3. They are all upper case, but many programs allow you to type either and many programs also present names in lower case (e.g. Windows 3.1 file manager) because it looks nicer and is still unambiguous. 2. Windows 95 allows mixed case file names. But case does not have to match when opening a file; two file names in the same directory cannot differ only in case (e.g. you can't have both fred.pdf and fred.PDF as you can on Unix.) [Macs seem to do something similar]. 3. Windows 95 sometimes reports the case of a file accurately. But in Explorer and other places a particular change is made which is designed to make the "inherited" DOS file names look nicer: if a name has ONLY upper case it is shown with all characters except the first lower case. So FRED.PDF will be shown as Fred.pdf. You cannot tell the difference between these two names except by looking in file properties. 4. If you copy a file named in upper case using explorer, the name may be converted to the form you see. So a copy of FRED.PDF may really be called Fred.pdf, while both appear to be called that. That may explain why Windows users find it so hard to produce fully ISO compliant CDROMs. Another complication: in Windows, the name of a file linked to is stored in a PDF file in upper case. This is fine if followed on windows, whatever the actual case. On Unix...well, perhaps someone can tell us. Do the files in Unix have to be all upper case too? Aandi On Wednesday, 11 March, 1998 19:43, Tom Thiersch [SMTP:thiersch@env-sol.com] wrote: > > Your files should be named according to the ISO 9660 standard. That standard > requires that file names contain only uppercase letters, plus 0-9 and the > underscore, and basically follow the 8.3 convention (but no extensions are > allowed on directory names!) > There are some other limitations, too -- refer to the standard itself for > details. > > So, the recommendation to "...use only lower-case..." is really a bad idea. > > You will very likely have serious portability problems using anything other > than ISO 9660-compliant file names. > > Tom Thiersch > > At 07:33 PM 3/11/98 -0000, you wrote: > > > >Hi Norman! > > > >I would definitely use the 8.3 format when saving pdf files (to allow > windows 3.X users to able to use the files). It might be smart to use only > lower-case, but I haven´t had any serious problems using mixed cases on a > web server running on a Sun server. The "only" problem I faced with the > latter was that the computer made all my files lowecase when I brought the > pdf files from a cd to the computer. I don´t know why this happened, as I am > not in charge of the Webserver, but I have found that this is not a problem > if I am using FTP to send the pdf files over to the server. > > > >Best Regards, > > > >Richard Taubo > >Bergersen ltd. -- Oslo, Norway > > > > > > > > > >>I have been given this message from a consultant within the firm that I > >>work for. As I am not familiar with UNIX standards, I'd like to verify > >>that the information contained is accurate, especially that which is > >>underlined. Any information would be greatly appreciated. > >> > >> File names should be typed in lower-case letters. Lower-case file names > >>are the most transferable between different computer operating systems. > >>They can move from all Intel platforms to Unix-based systems. This is > >>important for files that contain hyperlinks. For example, it has been > >>found that hyperlinks on PDF files created in Windows that have mixed case > >>file names will not work on a Unix platform. Files may move to different > >>operating systems depending on how they are delivered to the end user. > >>The Unix platform is popular for Web servers so if there is any +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Mar-1998 21:07:07-GMT,2386;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA28815 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:07:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA23470; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:41:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:39:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA23323; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:39:38 -0600 X-Sender: rbroome@mail.psislidell.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01BD4D29.B92D6600.quite@dial.pipex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:45:46 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Robert Broome Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF's and UNIX Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Tom, I searched the web in vain for a copy of the standard or the exact >details of its naming restrictions. Any idea where to find it? > >It may be worth adding something about file naming in DOS/Windows. the problem is not the OS in most cases. None of the OS'es in common use today require upper case 8.3 names. I don't think UNIX ever did, I know Macs never did. *However*, all the OS'es require CD driver software-and in order for the CD driver software to advertise itself as 9660 compliant, the driver must require upper case 8.3 filenames. Not just allow them. I don't have a copy of the standard here, it is an ISO standard and so I doubt you will find it on the net (copies of ISO standards cost $, that is how the organization supports itself), but there are usually discussions of what is involved in the manuals of CDROM burners if you have access to those. Note that there are other CD standards available, many OS'es support multiple standards with multiple drivers, newer standards are usually easier to handle. But the least common denominator is 9660. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Mar-1998 21:50:04-GMT,2393;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29987 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:50:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA26905; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:22:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:21:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26809; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:21:52 -0600 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E0169E7@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Acrobat FAQ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:21:24 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I would like to sincerely thank everyone who responded to this message. I have received an overwhelming positive response to this suggestion. Whilst the issue is not completely resolved yet, the overall direction is that; 1. We [in conjunction with others - more to follow] will produce a generalised FAQ - concentrating on application issues and questions pertaining to its implementation in different scenarios. 2. This FAQ will be based upon the considerable efforts of previous FAQs maintainers - such as Brian Sobus 3. This effort will be in conjunction with a number of other groups / individuals - harnassing the knowledge of groups such as this one to give it broad and accurate content. 4. The FAQ will be mirrored across a number of sites [mirrored meaning identical copies] 5. A mechanism will be instituted to allow updates / changes of the FAQ. More to follow on this issue. I'll keep you all posted. Any suggestions / tips / criticisms welcome. regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions - SendMail with Acrobat Exchange, download RTSJoust! http://www.roundtable.com.au +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Mar-1998 21:57:18-GMT,6456;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00181 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:57:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA27819; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:32:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:31:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA27694; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:31:16 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980311213107.00947f68@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:31:07 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF's and UNIX Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA27687 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 There are a lots of references available; for example, http://www.imation.com/dsp/cdrom/techbull/conform.html which I found by looking on AltaVista for "+ISO +9660 +specification" The formal, official, specification is available in printed form from ISO -- they'll sell you any of their standards for a nominal fee. See: http://www.iso.ch/cate/d17505.html re: Windows names This topic gets really ugly, real fast, because WYSInotWYG, and depends entirely on which version of Windows you have and AND which tool you use to view the directories. I'll write more about this, later! Tom Thiersch At 08:10 PM 3/11/98 -0000, you wrote: > >Tom, I searched the web in vain for a copy of the standard or the exact >details of its naming restrictions. Any idea where to find it? > >It may be worth adding something about file naming in DOS/Windows. > >1. In original DOS, all names are 8.3. They are all upper case, but many >programs allow you to type either and many programs also present names >in lower case (e.g. Windows 3.1 file manager) because it looks nicer and >is still unambiguous. > >2. Windows 95 allows mixed case file names. But case does not have >to match when opening a file; two file names in the same directory >cannot differ only in case (e.g. you can't have both fred.pdf and fred.PDF >as you can on Unix.) [Macs seem to do something similar]. > >3. Windows 95 sometimes reports the case of a file accurately. But in >Explorer and other places a particular change is made which is designed >to make the "inherited" DOS file names look nicer: if a name has ONLY >upper case it is shown with all characters except the first lower case. >So FRED.PDF will be shown as Fred.pdf. You cannot tell the difference >between these two names except by looking in file properties. > >4. If you copy a file named in upper case using explorer, the name may >be converted to the form you see. So a copy of FRED.PDF may really >be called Fred.pdf, while both appear to be called that. > >That may explain why Windows users find it so hard to produce fully >ISO compliant CDROMs. > >Another complication: in Windows, the name of a file linked to is stored >in a PDF file in upper case. This is fine if followed on windows, whatever >the actual case. On Unix...well, perhaps someone can tell us. Do the >files in Unix have to be all upper case too? > >Aandi > >On Wednesday, 11 March, 1998 19:43, Tom Thiersch [SMTP:thiersch@env-sol.com] wrote: >> >> Your files should be named according to the ISO 9660 standard. That standard >> requires that file names contain only uppercase letters, plus 0-9 and the >> underscore, and basically follow the 8.3 convention (but no extensions are >> allowed on directory names!) >> There are some other limitations, too -- refer to the standard itself for >> details. >> >> So, the recommendation to "...use only lower-case..." is really a bad idea. >> >> You will very likely have serious portability problems using anything other >> than ISO 9660-compliant file names. >> >> Tom Thiersch >> >> At 07:33 PM 3/11/98 -0000, you wrote: >> > >> >Hi Norman! >> > >> >I would definitely use the 8.3 format when saving pdf files (to allow >> windows 3.X users to able to use the files). It might be smart to use only >> lower-case, but I haven´t had any serious problems using mixed cases on a >> web server running on a Sun server. The "only" problem I faced with the >> latter was that the computer made all my files lowecase when I brought the >> pdf files from a cd to the computer. I don´t know why this happened, as I am >> not in charge of the Webserver, but I have found that this is not a problem >> if I am using FTP to send the pdf files over to the server. >> > >> >Best Regards, >> > >> >Richard Taubo >> >Bergersen ltd. -- Oslo, Norway >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >>I have been given this message from a consultant within the firm that I >> >>work for. As I am not familiar with UNIX standards, I'd like to verify >> >>that the information contained is accurate, especially that which is >> >>underlined. Any information would be greatly appreciated. >> >> >> >> File names should be typed in lower-case letters. Lower-case file names >> >>are the most transferable between different computer operating systems. >> >>They can move from all Intel platforms to Unix-based systems. This is >> >>important for files that contain hyperlinks. For example, it has been >> >>found that hyperlinks on PDF files created in Windows that have mixed case >> >>file names will not work on a Unix platform. Files may move to different >> >>operating systems depending on how they are delivered to the end user. >> >>The Unix platform is popular for Web servers so if there is any >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Mar-1998 22:52:31-GMT,2350;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01674 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:52:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA00074; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:18:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:16:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA32484; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:15:58 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:12:31 -0600 From: Paul Schulte To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF's and UNIX - Reply Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Aandi Inston replied in part to this thread: Another complication: in Windows, the name of a file linked to is stored in a PDF file in upper case. This is fine if followed on windows, whatever the actual case. On Unix...well, perhaps someone can tell us. Do the files in Unix have to be all upper case too? End excerpt Unix file naming is case-sensitive. While all upper case 8.3 may avoid the cross-platform problems, it may not in the links. I'll have to do some playing to see whether links external to the pdf on Unix matter as to case. I believe they do. (The reason I don't know is that my pdf needs do not allow for any live links external to the document in question; FDA regulations.) All lower case tends to be the default recommendation for all Unix systems as programmers preferred avoiding to Shift when writing code, executing commands, and so on. Upper case tends to be reserved for items that need to gain a user's attention. Without exhaustively reviewing materials, almost all Unix commands, pathnames (to directories), and sys admin is lower case. And after this prognostication, I expect someone to say, "How wrong you are!" :-) Paul +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11-Mar-1998 18:22:27-GMT,1775;000000000001 Received: from sunray.math.utah.edu (beebe@sunray.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.71]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24315; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:22:12 -0700 (MST) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Received: (from beebe@localhost) by sunray.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA09473; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:22:11 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:22:11 -0700 (MST) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu, "Andrew R. Both" , Scottie Scott X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: [PDF] learning script Message-ID: Further to "Andrew R. Both" 's query about forms scripting, I suggest a visit to http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/index.html#java ftp://ftp.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/java.bib where bibliographic entries for 174 books about JavaScript are to be found. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 105 JWB beebe@acm.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12-Mar-1998 11:42:33-GMT,3344;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA18765 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 04:42:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA13468; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 05:22:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 05:16:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA13194; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 05:16:10 -0600 Message-ID: <91D163703F28D11186FC00A024890A8B070EBE@CADCO_EXS> From: "John O'Donovan" To: "'pdf list'" Subject: [PDF] Changing PDF text color Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:13:35 -0000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="---- =_NextPart_001_01BD4DA7.E6E052A0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------ =_NextPart_001_01BD4DA7.E6E052A0 Content-Type: text/plain I am writing a plug-in that will change the text of certain words in a document and i am having severy difficulty. i am trying to use the COS layer and it's doing it's best to defeat me. The plug-in is written in VC++ 5.0 any help greatly appreciated. john Emancipate yourself from inter-slavery, None but ourselves can free our minds, Have no fear for atomic energy, Cos none of them can stop the time - B. Marley ------ =_NextPart_001_01BD4DA7.E6E052A0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I am writing a plug-in that will change the text of = certain words in a document and i am having severy difficulty.

i am trying to use the COS layer and it's doing it's = best to defeat me.

The plug-in is written in VC++ 5.0

any help greatly appreciated.

john

Emancipate yourself from = inter-slavery,
None but ourselves can free = our minds,
Have no fear for atomic = energy,
Cos none of them can stop the = time

        =         - B. Marley

------ =_NextPart_001_01BD4DA7.E6E052A0-- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Mar-1998 12:42:02-GMT,1898;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA19863 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 05:42:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA15089; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:15:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:14:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA15024; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:14:50 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD4DB0.7F48C420.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Changing PDF text color Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:15:03 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Thursday, 12 March, 1998 11:14, John O'Donovan [SMTP:John.ODonovan@cadco.ie] wrote: > I am writing a plug-in that will change the text of certain words in a > document and i am having severy difficulty. > > i am trying to use the COS layer and it's doing it's best to defeat me. > > The plug-in is written in VC++ 5.0 > > any help greatly appreciated. I think you'll need to post specifics, unless you're hoping someone will write it for you. I responded in detail to comp.text.pdf, so I won't repeat it here. Aandi P.S. Please don't post attachments though.+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Mar-1998 12:58:30-GMT,2221;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA20177 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 05:58:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA16089; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:49:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:48:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA16026; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:48:19 -0600 Message-Id: <199803121248.GAA16022@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Changing PDF text color Date: Thu, 12 Mar 98 07:51:21 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Mark Gavin To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 [John O'Donovan wrote on 3/12/98 6:13 AM] >I am writing a plug-in that will change the text of certain words in a >document and i am having severy difficulty. > >i am trying to use the COS layer and it's doing it's best to defeat me. > >The plug-in is written in VC++ 5.0 > >any help greatly appreciated. > >john John, The Acrobat SDK supports the reading and replacing of Cos Streams without much difficulty. However, it does not support sub-stream level manipulation of stream content. It is up to you to create a PDF parser to locate the information in question and make changes. We have created a high quality PDF parser for use in our redactions plug-in Redax. Such a parser is not trivial and depending on your needs you should expect to spend several to many months in development. Mark Gavin Vice President Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA, USA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 mgavin@DigApp.com http://www.DigApp.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Mar-1998 13:35:08-GMT,7179;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA20896 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:35:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA16428; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:58:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:58:02 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA16362; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:58:00 -0600 Message-ID: <91D163703F28D11186FC00A024890A8B070EC9@CADCO_EXS> From: "John O'Donovan" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Changing PDF text color Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:54:56 -0000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="---- =_NextPart_001_01BD4DB6.0F75FFE0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------ =_NextPart_001_01BD4DB6.0F75FFE0 Content-Type: text/plain thanks but under which news provider did you puy it ? deja-news? the problem is in returning the cos stream from a pdf file all i want is a certain word's cos object and i don't know how to get it Emancipate yourself from inter-slavery, None but ourselves can free our minds, Have no fear for atomic energy, Cos none of them can stop the time - B. Marley > -----Original Message----- > From: Aandi Inston [SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 12:15 PM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: RE: [PDF] Changing PDF text color > > > > > On Thursday, 12 March, 1998 11:14, John O'Donovan > [SMTP:John.ODonovan@cadco.ie] wrote: > > I am writing a plug-in that will change the text of certain words in > a > > document and i am having severy difficulty. > > > > i am trying to use the COS layer and it's doing it's best to defeat > me. > > > > The plug-in is written in VC++ 5.0 > > > > any help greatly appreciated. > > I think you'll need to post specifics, unless you're hoping someone > will write it for you. > > I responded in detail to comp.text.pdf, so I won't repeat it here. > > Aandi > > P.S. Please don't post attachments > though.+-------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ ------ =_NextPart_001_01BD4DB6.0F75FFE0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

thanks but under which news = provider did you puy it ? deja-news?

the problem is in returning the = cos stream from a pdf file all i want is a certain word's cos object = and i don't know how to get it


Emancipate yourself from = inter-slavery,
None but ourselves can free = our minds,
Have no fear for atomic = energy,
Cos none of them can stop the = time

        =         - B. Marley

    -----Original Message-----
    From:   Aandi Inston [SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com]
    Sent:   Thursday, March 12, 1998 12:15 PM
    To:     'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'
    Subject:       = RE: [PDF] Changing PDF text = color




    On Thursday, 12 = March, 1998 11:14, John O'Donovan [SMTP:John.ODonovan@cadco.ie] = wrote:
    > I am writing a = plug-in that will change the text of certain words in a
    > document and i = am having severy difficulty.
    >
    > i am trying to = use the COS layer and it's doing it's best to defeat me.
    >
    > The plug-in is = written in VC++ 5.0
    >
    > any help = greatly appreciated.

    I think you'll need = to post specifics, unless you're hoping someone will write it for = you.

    I responded in = detail to comp.text.pdf, so I won't repeat it here.

    Aandi

    P.S. Please don't = post attachments = though.+----------------------------------------------------------------= --------+
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------ =_NextPart_001_01BD4DB6.0F75FFE0-- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Mar-1998 13:59:29-GMT,3201;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA21402 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:59:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA17713; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:30:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:28:02 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA17568; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:28:00 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD4DBA.B95A4A80.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Changing PDF text color Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:28:17 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Thursday, 12 March, 1998 12:55, John O'Donovan [SMTP:John.ODonovan@cadco.ie] wrote: > thanks but under which news provider did you puy it ? deja-news? > > the problem is in returning the cos stream from a pdf file all i want is > a certain word's cos object and i don't know how to get it > > << File: ATT00002.htm >> I posted it under my ISP, Pipex (UK). It will probably turn up in a few days, but as it may be of interest to others I'll repeat it here. I think I can see part of your problem - words don't have COS objects. You may not realise what you have embarked upon, especially if you have not read the PDF Reference Manual in detail. ..... Getting the stream contents (there may be an array of them) for a page is easy with the Acrobat plug-ins SDK. The fun starts next; you will need to parse the contents into tokens, paying special attention to inline images (the PDPageStream procedures may help you). You need to interpret at least some of the page stream operators - including Q, q, cm, and all text operators, and probably colour setting operators. Because of Q and q you will need to keep a graphics state stack. As you go, you will need to write to a file or memory buffer a copy of the stream (unless you can do something adventurous with proc streams). Then you will have to identify the text that corresponds to that you want to recolour (remembering that it may not be in the right order, or even together in the page stream). When you've identified them, add the necessary page stream operators to your output file or buffer, remembering also operators to reset the previous colour. Finally, the stream you have written is applied to CosNewStream and the resulting stream object replaces the page stream for the page. Yes, this is hard, but possible. No, I can't supply any samples as I have a commercial application in mind... Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Mar-1998 15:44:27-GMT,1615;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA23914 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:44:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA22052; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:09:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:05:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA21835; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:05:36 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD4DD9.7F4C7100.gradic@agora.ro> From: Gabriel Radic To: "UG PDF (E-mail)" Subject: [PDF] Font swapper Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:08:36 +0200 Organization: CPA X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello people, I need a font swapper for PDF or postscript. Is there any? I have some magazines that uses fonts not available on my system or poorly embedded. Peace! [=== GABRIEL RADIC ============ Layout/Graphics/Web Designer ===] [=== mailto:gradic@agora.ro === http://www.agora.ro/~gradic/ ===] +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Mar-1998 16:21:31-GMT,3281;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24867 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:21:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA23564; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:39:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:36:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA23340; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:36:41 -0600 Message-ID: <000301bd4dc8$3c4e3c00$1f40dec2@nplum.demon.co.uk> From: Nic Plum To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at post.mail.demon.net Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF's and UNIX Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:43:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Just to build on this:- * if you have MS Internet Explorer installed it adds the capability/option to display file names in all upper case - with this option enabled at least you can see what lies underneath. Within pdfMark there is some sort of platform key that can be specified along with the URI. I was wondering if this might provide the answer to how a link behaves? I did ask the question many moons ago but there seemed little interest then. Equally the pdfMark specification doesn't actually list what values this can take, there are no worked examples and it seems impossible to get Exchange to spit pdfMark out visibly so that we might be able to impirically determine what needs to happen.... Nic. _____________________________________________________________________ Buckden, < www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/ > Huntingdon, For information management and Cambs, Adobe Acrobat integration from UK. within your favourite PE18 9SZ wordprocessor _____________________________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Aandi Inston To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Date: 11 March 1998 20:29 Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF's and UNIX 3. Windows 95 sometimes reports the case of a file accurately. But in Explorer and other places a particular change is made which is designed to make the "inherited" DOS file names look nicer: if a name has ONLY upper case it is shown with all characters except the first lower case. So FRED.PDF will be shown as Fred.pdf. You cannot tell the difference between these two names except by looking in file properties. ;-) +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Mar-1998 21:04:42-GMT,1459;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02586 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:04:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA04948; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:36:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:32:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA04704; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:32:39 -0600 Message-ID: <6B5C8C4247FCCF1189AF0080D88002AA013A7BF5@hrserv2> From: "Perry, Robert" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Alter bookmark width? Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:32:54 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Is there a way to make the default bookmark width wider? I need more room there for reading long-named bookmarks. Also is there a way to change font color or font size of a bookmark? Bob Perry +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Mar-1998 21:10:07-GMT,1842;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02747 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:10:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA05503; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:48:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:47:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA05456; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:47:21 -0600 Message-ID: <3508476F.2649@document-solutions.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:37:03 -0800 From: Duff Johnson Organization: Document Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Alter bookmark width? References: <6B5C8C4247FCCF1189AF0080D88002AA013A7BF5@hrserv2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Perry, Robert wrote: > > Is there a way to make the default bookmark width wider? I need more > room there for reading long-named bookmarks. Nope. > Also is there a way to change font color or font size of a bookmark? Nope. We wish. -- regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1755 Broadway, Suite 520, Oakland, CA 94612 Phone: (510) 986-0250 Fax: (510) 986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com http://www.document-solutions.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Mar-1998 22:09:26-GMT,2316;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04383 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:09:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA07506; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:34:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:32:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07446; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:32:50 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Johnston,Randy" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Alter bookmark width? Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:34:05 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Bob Perry wrote >>Is there a way to make the default bookmark width wider? I need more >>room there for reading long-named bookmarks. If your using Exchange, there is a line in the Acroexch.ini file located in the Windows directory that controls the default width for the overview pane. It's called DefaultSplitterPos=140, 140 is the default and you can increase that number to increase the width of the overview pane. I've found that 200 works just fine for me. The Reader .ini file is called Acroread.ini. >>Also is there a way to change font color or font size of a bookmark? None that I've heard of. +---------------------------------------------------------------------- --+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +---------------------------------------------------------------------- --+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Mar-1998 22:10:26-GMT,2012;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04405 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:10:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA08377; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:52:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:52:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA08306; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:52:03 -0600 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <6B5C8C4247FCCF1189AF0080D88002AA013A7BF5@hrserv2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:53:58 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Ross Moran Subject: Re: [PDF] Alter bookmark width? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Is there a way to make the default bookmark width wider? I need more >room there for reading long-named bookmarks. >Also is there a way to change font color or font size of a bookmark? > >Bob Perry The Preferences file for the Mac version can be tweaked with ResEdit to allow for a change in the default width *on the computer running Exchange.* It is probably easier to just move the slider at the bottom right of the bookmark "frame" for increased visibility. No way to change the font characteristics, however. --Ross T. Moran, Ph.D. | http://ir.csusb.edu Assistant Director of Institutional Research | Phone: (909)880-5052 California State University, San Bernardino | Fax: (909)990-7069 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Mar-1998 22:12:06-GMT,1680;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04456 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:12:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA08063; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:45:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:43:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07931; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:43:56 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:39:45 -0600 From: Paul Schulte To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Subject: [PDF] Batch creation of thumbnails Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I believe this topic has been discussed before. I am pretty sure there are several plug ins to do this. That's not the current preference. Other than plug ins, what other options are there? Can one batch this from a Unix command line? Any and all responses will be greatly appreciated. Paul K. Schulte Medtronic, Inc. Configuration Assurance Phone #: 612/514-8349 Fax #: 612/514-8674 Email: paul.k.schulte@medtronic.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Mar-1998 22:46:30-GMT,2985;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA05336 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:46:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA09968; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:28:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:27:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09858; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:27:06 -0600 Message-ID: <35085ED8.3E9F@document-solutions.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:16:56 -0800 From: Duff Johnson Organization: Document Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Alter bookmark width? References: <001601bd4e04$106e6d30$8103a8c0@olympus.pr.mcs.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Jeremy: As you say... this is the "real" question I answered before. And the answer is still "Nope". In other words, there is no way to configure the width of the bookmark pane at the _document level_, as opposed to the _installation level_. ini file tweaks are nice, but they assume control over the app itself. Hope this helps (although I suspect it's not want you wanted to hear). Jeremy Treister wrote: > > The real question, probably, is: Can the developer of the PDF project change > the width of the bookmark pane so the end user (in Reader or Exchange) sees > it the way the developer intended? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Johnston,Randy > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Date: Thursday, March 12, 1998 3:41 PM > Subject: RE: [PDF] Alter bookmark width? > > > > >Bob Perry wrote > > > >>>Is there a way to make the default bookmark width wider? I need > >more > >>>room there for reading long-named bookmarks. > > > >If your using Exchange, there is a line in the Acroexch.ini file > >located in the Windows directory that controls the default width for > >the overview pane. It's called DefaultSplitterPos=140, 140 is the > >default and you can increase that number to increase the width of the > >overview pane. I've found that 200 works just fine for me. The > >Reader .ini file is called Acroread.ini. > -- regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1755 Broadway, Suite 520, Oakland, CA 94612 Phone: (510) 986-0250 Fax: (510) 986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com http://www.document-solutions.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Mar-1998 22:46:30-GMT,2334;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA05340 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:46:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA09231; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:11:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:10:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09197; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:10:44 -0600 Message-ID: <001601bd4e04$106e6d30$8103a8c0@olympus.pr.mcs.net> From: "Jeremy Treister" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Alter bookmark width? Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:12:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 The real question, probably, is: Can the developer of the PDF project change the width of the bookmark pane so the end user (in Reader or Exchange) sees it the way the developer intended? -----Original Message----- From: Johnston,Randy To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Date: Thursday, March 12, 1998 3:41 PM Subject: RE: [PDF] Alter bookmark width? > >Bob Perry wrote > >>>Is there a way to make the default bookmark width wider? I need >more >>>room there for reading long-named bookmarks. > >If your using Exchange, there is a line in the Acroexch.ini file >located in the Windows directory that controls the default width for >the overview pane. It's called DefaultSplitterPos=140, 140 is the >default and you can increase that number to increase the width of the >overview pane. I've found that 200 works just fine for me. The >Reader .ini file is called Acroread.ini. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Mar-1998 22:47:15-GMT,2947;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA05367 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:47:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA09462; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:16:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:16:02 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09405; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:15:59 -0600 Message-ID: <35085FD1.22B520C5@nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:21:05 -0500 From: Louis Rosa X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Batch creation of thumbnails References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 good luck! this seems to be the 64 million dollar question of the YEAR! if you find out anything please let me know thanks louisr Paul Schulte wrote: > I believe this topic has been discussed before. I am pretty sure there are > several plug ins to do this. That's not the current preference. Other than > plug ins, what other options are there? Can one batch this from a Unix > command line? > > Any and all responses will be greatly appreciated. > > Paul K. Schulte > Medtronic, Inc. > Configuration Assurance > Phone #: 612/514-8349 > Fax #: 612/514-8674 > Email: paul.k.schulte@medtronic.com > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/_ | Louis Rosa _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | Florida Center for _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ | Library Automation _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | Coord. Computer Applications _/_/ _/_/_/_/ /_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ | e-mail: | louisr@nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------- |FCLA'S HOME PAGE: http://www.fcla.ufl.edu | ----------------------------------------------------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Mar-1998 22:54:12-GMT,3840;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA05557 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:54:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA10224; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:32:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:31:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA10136; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:31:28 -0600 Message-ID: <001f01bd4e06$f764ca70$8103a8c0@olympus.pr.mcs.net> From: "Jeremy Treister" To: Subject: [PDF] PDF] Batch creation of thumbnails Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:33:35 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 When you batch optimize a directory in Acrobat Exchange 3, you have the option to create thumbnails of all PDF files. Jeremy Treister Sensorium Software, Inc. Visual Business Management e jtreister@SensoriumSoftware.com v 312.786.1330.515 f 312.786.1324 -----Original Message----- From: Louis Rosa To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thursday, March 12, 1998 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [PDF] Batch creation of thumbnails > >good luck! > >this seems to be the 64 million dollar question of the YEAR! >if you find out anything please let me know > >thanks >louisr > >Paul Schulte wrote: > >> I believe this topic has been discussed before. I am pretty sure there are >> several plug ins to do this. That's not the current preference. Other than >> plug ins, what other options are there? Can one batch this from a Unix >> command line? >> >> Any and all responses will be greatly appreciated. >> >> Paul K. Schulte >> Medtronic, Inc. >> Configuration Assurance >> Phone #: 612/514-8349 >> Fax #: 612/514-8674 >> Email: paul.k.schulte@medtronic.com >> +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >> + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >> +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > >-- >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/_ | Louis Rosa > _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | Florida Center for > _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ | Library Automation > _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | Coord. Computer Applications >_/_/ _/_/_/_/ /_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ | e-mail: > | louisr@nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >|FCLA'S HOME PAGE: http://www.fcla.ufl.edu | >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 12-Mar-1998 23:40:29-GMT,1941;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06743 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:40:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA11904; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:07:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:05:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA11820; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:05:25 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD4E0B.9D375D60.davec@docctrl.com> From: David Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Alter bookmark width? Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:04:18 -0000 Organization: Computerised Document Control Ltd X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Is there a way to make the default bookmark width wider? I need more > room there for reading long-named bookmarks. I believe that the answer is: DefaultSplitterPos= in the ACROREAD/EXCH.INI, However you better confirm this as I am but a simple salesman ;-) drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 0:56:57-GMT,1765;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12909 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:56:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA15197; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:30:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:27:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA15059; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:27:55 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980312163410.006ae5dc@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:34:10 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: [PDF] Max Length of Bookmark title Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Has anyone come across a maximum length for a bookmark title? I've got a bookmark that starts out OK, but then end with "..." I've looked in the Portable Document Format Ref. Manual and couldn't find anything. Any thoughts? --------------------------- Scott Hamlow Technical Writer Endura Software Corporation Seattle, Washington USA http://www.enduracorp.com scott.hamlow@enduracorp.com 206.517.6487 --------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 0:59:04-GMT,2408;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12953 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:59:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA15580; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:39:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:38:47 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA15526; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:38:45 -0600 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <882565C6.0001E18F.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:36:39 -0800 Subject: [PDF] scanning /file size question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We've been scanning documents (mostly text) using Exchange. The size of the resulting PDF file is quite large. If we print the PDF to Distiller Assistant v3.0 the new PDF is close to 50% smaller in size. Then we capture the documents with either the Capture plug-in in Exchange or with Capture 2.0. We need to keep the files as small as possible, but it seems like there should be an easier, more efficient way to do this. Is there a way to get the smaller sized file from the first scan? We've looked at the PDF writer set-up thinking that might have something to do with compression during scanning - does it? On the off chance that it does have something to do with compression during the scanning process, we did a test with PDF writer set for 2.1 compatibility, jpeg-medium and again at 3.0 compatability, jpeg-medium: resulting file size was the same for both. We then printed both documents to the Dist. Asst and the size of the new PDFs were both reduced about the same (2.1 was actually a bit smaller). Is there a way to get the smaller file size when the document is scanned - without having to go through the process of distilling the files? Thanks, Sue +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 1:09:19-GMT,3356;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA13203 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:09:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA16241; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:58:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:57:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA16157; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:57:12 -0600 Message-ID: <35088205.1F7A@document-solutions.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:47:01 -0800 From: Duff Johnson Organization: Document Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] scanning /file size question References: <882565C6.0001E18F.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Sue: First, use a scanning application to scan so that you get TIFFs, NOT PDFs to start. You don't say if you want PDF/Normal or PDF/I+T files.... If file size is a premium, you'll want to go with PDF/Normal. Either way, if you own Acrobat Capture, simply process the TIFFs generated from the scanner -- select your output type in the "Output Folder" dialog. In all instances, Capture will provide a superior method of paper (via TIFF) to PDF conversion than the Capture plug-in for Exchange. sgililland@nexstar.com wrote: > > We've been scanning documents (mostly text) using Exchange. The size of > the resulting PDF file is quite large. If we print the PDF to Distiller > Assistant v3.0 the new PDF is close to 50% smaller in size. Then we > capture the documents with either the Capture plug-in in Exchange or with > Capture 2.0. > > We need to keep the files as small as possible, but it seems like there > should be an easier, more efficient way to do this. Is there a way to get > the smaller sized file from the first scan? We've looked at the PDF writer > set-up thinking that might have something to do with compression during > scanning - does it? On the off chance that it does have something to do > with compression during the scanning process, we did a test with PDF writer > set for 2.1 compatibility, jpeg-medium and again at 3.0 compatability, > jpeg-medium: resulting file size was the same for both. We then printed > both documents to the Dist. Asst and the size of the new PDFs were both > reduced about the same (2.1 was actually a bit smaller). > > Is there a way to get the smaller file size when the document is scanned - > without having to go through the process of distilling the files? > > Thanks, > > Sue -- regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1755 Broadway, Suite 520, Oakland, CA 94612 Phone: (510) 986-0250 Fax: (510) 986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com http://www.document-solutions.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 2:02:52-GMT,2124;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA14341 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:02:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA18010; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:38:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:36:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA17945; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:36:05 -0600 Message-Id: <199803130136.TAA17940@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Alter bookmark width? Date: Thu, 12 Mar 98 20:39:02 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Mark Gavin To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 [Perry, Robert wrote on 3/12/98 3:32 PM] >Is there a way to make the default bookmark width wider? I need more >room there for reading long-named bookmarks. >Also is there a way to change font color or font size of a bookmark? > >Bob Perry > Bob, Our ShowBookmarks plug-in will display the bookmark pane if a document contains bookmarks. It also has a side benefit of making the bookmark pane wider by setting the bookmark pane width to 180 if the width is less then 151. The Adobe default is usually 150. ShowBookmarks is available for free from our web site at http://www.digapp.com. ShowBookmarks runs on Windows or Macintosh and can be used with both Acrobat Exchange and Acrobat Reader. Mark Gavin Vice President Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA, USA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 mgavin@DigApp.com http://www.DigApp.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 7:31:27-GMT,2760;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA21194 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:31:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA29629; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 01:08:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 01:06:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA29549; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 01:06:27 -0600 Message-ID: <002801bd4b2a$2d123700$0100a8c0@server.algonet.se> From: peter@originalab.se (Originalab Peter) To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Database Publishing to PDF - How? Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:08:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 You need some formatting engine to create create pages and a postscript file. Take a look at 3B2 from Advent publishing. Demo creating business cards and other printed matter at http://www.originalab.se. Peter -----Original Message----- From: Steve Briggs To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: den 8 mars 1998 23:16 Subject: [PDF] Database Publishing to PDF - How? > >I currently use Tango and Oracle to dynamically publish information from >databases to HTML or text. Is there a good way to publish on the fly >directly to PDF instead? > >Thanks! > > -- Steve > > >**************************************************************** > Steve Briggs http://www.wowpages.com/ > Wow Pages, Inc. 1.800.WOW.1032 > Web Site Design and Hosting ME 207.741.2570 > steve@wowpages.com VT >802.860.6682 > >**************************************************************** > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 9:04:30-GMT,1532;000000000000 Received: from cirrostratus.netaccess.co.nz (ron.mac.co.nz [202.37.101.18]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA23126 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 02:04:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from [202.37.101.48] (ppp137048.netaccess.co.nz [202.37.101.48]) by cirrostratus.netaccess.co.nz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA26735; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 22:04:00 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 22:04:00 +1300 (NZDT) X-Sender: both@pop3.netaccess.co.nz Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" From: "Andrew R. Both" Subject: Re: [PDF] learning script Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com At 11:22 AM -0700 11/3/98, Nelson H. F. Beebe wrote: >Further to "Andrew R. Both" 's query >about forms scripting, I suggest a visit to > > http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/index.html#java > ftp://ftp.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/java.bib > > Can somes suggest a title which explains javascript in context of using within Acrobat Forms. As a relative beginner I wan tot cut thru the crap to get the info I really need. I'm sure you all can empathise with this. ___________________________________________________ "Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils." Hector Berlioz (1803-1869). French composer. ___________________________________________________ 13-Mar-1998 9:04:42-GMT,2092;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA23141 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 02:04:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA31692; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 02:32:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 02:29:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA31583; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 02:29:13 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD4E5A.6D574160.davec@docctrl.com> From: David Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Database Publishing to PDF - How? Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:31:24 -0000 Organization: Computerised Document Control Ltd X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >I currently use Tango and Oracle to dynamically publish information from >databases to HTML or text. Is there a good way to publish on the fly >directly to PDF instead? > Our PDFfusion product will allow you to dynamically populate PDF templates on the fly. It is increasingly being used in Intranet applications for created "customised document on demand". More information from: www.docctrl.com drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 9:19:23-GMT,2086;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA23402 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 02:19:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA32545; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 03:06:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 03:04:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA32429; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 03:04:05 -0600 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 22:04:00 +1300 (NZDT) X-Sender: both@pop3.netaccess.co.nz Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" From: "Andrew R. Both" Subject: Re: [PDF] learning script Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 11:22 AM -0700 11/3/98, Nelson H. F. Beebe wrote: >Further to "Andrew R. Both" 's query >about forms scripting, I suggest a visit to > > http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/index.html#java > ftp://ftp.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/java.bib > > Can somes suggest a title which explains javascript in context of using within Acrobat Forms. As a relative beginner I wan tot cut thru the crap to get the info I really need. I'm sure you all can empathise with this. ___________________________________________________ "Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils." Hector Berlioz (1803-1869). French composer. ___________________________________________________ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 9:41:40-GMT,3342;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA24024 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 02:41:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA32729; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 03:13:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 03:12:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA32686; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 03:12:43 -0600 Message-ID: <91D163703F28D11186FC00A024890A8B070ECF@CADCO_EXS> From: "John O'Donovan" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Database Publishing to PDF - How? Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:10:14 -0000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="---- =_NextPart_001_01BD4E5F.D6E23310" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------ =_NextPart_001_01BD4E5F.D6E23310 Content-Type: text/plain Just wondering if there is a plug-in available that will allow the user to compare 2 PDF documents and change the colour of the different word in the second versio. Similar to word's "Tools->Track Changes-> Compare Documents" thanks j. Emancipate yourself from inter-slavery, None but ourselves can free our minds, Have no fear for atomic energy, Cos none of them can stop the time - B. 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Just wondering if there is a = plug-in available that will allow the user to compare 2 PDF documents = and change the colour of the different word in the second versio. = Similar to word's "Tools->Track Changes-> Compare = Documents"


thanks
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Emancipate yourself from = inter-slavery,
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Have no fear for atomic = energy,
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        =         - B. Marley

------ =_NextPart_001_01BD4E5F.D6E23310-- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 12:13:44-GMT,1816;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26676 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 05:13:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA03747; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 05:44:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 05:41:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA03648; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 05:40:58 -0600 Message-ID: <35091ACB.E8598218@fidnet.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 05:38:51 -0600 From: "M. Randall Mueller" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "'PDF Discussion Group'" Subject: [PDF] Quite Imposioning?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-UNICODE-2-0-UTF-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Anyone using this? Can you tell me if this is what will work for us? We step stock items from business cards to postcards in quarkxpress using templates, which cuting dies have been made from to cut the finished postcards done on offset and business cards that have been silkscreen and placed on magnetic material. Will quite allow me this precision and use of our exsisting templates to be used? Can it step like quarkxpress? Randall -- mueller@fidnet.com http://whdesign.com WebHeadBookShop - WebTV Talk +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 12:28:20-GMT,2325;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26922 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 05:28:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA05004; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 06:22:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 06:19:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA04864; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 06:19:42 -0600 Message-ID: <51EB8019F06FD11195C100805FD44F804A7E0C@ExchangeMN2.ATK.COM> From: "Mera, Jose" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Database Publishing to PDF - How? Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 06:21:32 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Radtke Consulting has a PDF Compare product (PComp). Not sure it shows the differences exactly as you specify. Bob Radtke, the President of Radtke Consulting, can be contacted at rradtke@gte.net. Jose Mera Business Area Manager Alliant Techsystems Clearwater, FL Voice: (813)572-2491 Fax: (813)572-2169 E-mail: jose_mera@atk.com WWW: http://ais.atk.com > ---------- > From: John O'Donovan[SMTP:John.ODonovan@cadco.ie] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Friday, March 13, 1998 4:10 AM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: RE: [PDF] Database Publishing to PDF - How? > > Just wondering if there is a plug-in available that will allow the > user to compare 2 PDF documents and change the colour of the different > word in the second versio. Similar to word's "Tools->Track Changes-> > Compare Documents" > > > thanks > j. > > Emancipate yourself from inter-slavery, > None but ourselves can free our minds, > Have no fear for atomic energy, > Cos none of them can stop the time > > - B. Marley > > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 13:33:31-GMT,1507;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28091 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 06:33:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA06575; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 07:07:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 07:04:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA06433; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 07:04:51 -0600 Message-ID: <3509305F.C86FF3A7@col.ru> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:10:55 +0300 From: Maxim Gorodin Organization: Business Forms Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Database Publishing to PDF - How? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Now we use PDFMARK and own specialized toolkit of assembly of the data. Result - Linear database. And tens thousands hiperlinks. Best rgds, Maxim +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 14:32:16-GMT,2655;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA29349 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 07:32:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA09233; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:03:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:02:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09118; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:01:59 -0600 Message-ID: <35093C80.A7BEF6A@beacon.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:02:40 -0500 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] scanning /file size question References: <882565C6.0001E18F.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 sgililland@nexstar.com wrote: > > We've been scanning documents (mostly text) using Exchange. The size of > the resulting PDF file is quite large. If we print the PDF to Distiller > Assistant v3.0 the new PDF is close to 50% smaller in size. Then we > capture the documents with either the Capture plug-in in Exchange or with > Capture 2.0. > > [...] > > Is there a way to get the smaller file size when the document is scanned - > without having to go through the process of distilling the files? In my experience with Capture 1.0, I found that the output of Capture was never downsampled nor compressed. This was regardless of compressions used in source TIFF files, and logically so, since Capture would have to decompress at the outset to process the file. So I, too, had a process where captured PDFs were printed to PostScript files and then distilled. Notice I put the distilling step *after* the capturing, which is slightly different than what you suggest. I guess that wouldn't matter. Now, Capture 2.0 may act differently. It sure doesn't sound like it, though, judging from what you've said. I suppose one could confirm the behavior by opening one of its output (PDF) files in an editor and checking the encoding type of the images. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 14:40:03-GMT,1912;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA29528 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 07:40:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA10088; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:18:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:17:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10020; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:17:33 -0600 From: JOEL.FINKLE@monsanto.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Max Length of Bookmark title Message-Id: <"0313141739-Re: PDF Max Length of Bookmark title"@MHS> Date: 13 Mar 1998 08:13:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Has anyone come across a maximum length for a bookmark title? I've got a >bookmark that starts out OK, but then end with "..." >From my experiments with writing plug-ins to generate bookmarks, 255 characters is about where problems begin. I haven't tried to narrow it down to an exact, but I'd be willing to bet that's the limit. On the other hand, to view 255 characters of a bookmark, you'd need to make the bookmark pane the entire width of the screen on a 19" monitor. My general rule is that if a section heading or table title (for instance) runs over more than one line, just include the first line followed by "..." Joel Finkle G.D. Searle +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 14:46:59-GMT,1653;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA29693 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 07:46:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA10053; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:17:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:16:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09910; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:16:10 -0600 From: JOEL.FINKLE@monsanto.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] Alter bookmark width? Message-Id: <"0313141559-Re2: PDF Alter bookmark width?"@MHS> Date: 13 Mar 1998 08:08:43 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Duff Johnson wrote: >Perry, Robert wrote: >> >> Is there a way to make the default bookmark width wider? I need more > room >there for reading long-named bookmarks. > >Nope. > Hmm... it seems to me that a plug-in can change the 'splitter width'. You'd have to have the plug-in active, and either have it be a global (i.e. Registry) setting or a by-document (i.e. private data) setting. Joel Finkle G.D. Searle +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 15:44:23-GMT,2708;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA01389 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:44:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA13089; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:16:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:14:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA12944; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:14:50 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980313072104.006b9b7c@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 07:21:04 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: Re: [PDF] Max Length of Bookmark title In-Reply-To: <"0313141739-Re: PDF Max Length of Bookmark title"@MHS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Upon further research, I discovered it was FrameMaker that was imposing a 50 character limit on the bookmark title in the PS file. I don't show the bookmarks, I just use them for my context-sensitive help system. That is why the EXACT title of the bookmark is so important. At 08:13 AM 3/13/98 -0600, you wrote: > >>Has anyone come across a maximum length for a bookmark title? I've got a >>bookmark that starts out OK, but then end with "..." > >>From my experiments with writing plug-ins to generate bookmarks, 255 >characters is about where problems begin. I haven't tried to narrow it >down to an exact, but I'd be willing to bet that's the limit. > >On the other hand, to view 255 characters of a bookmark, you'd need to >make the bookmark pane the entire width of the screen on a 19" monitor. > >My general rule is that if a section heading or table title (for instance) >runs over more than one line, just include the first line followed by >"..." > >Joel Finkle >G.D. Searle >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 15:47:07-GMT,2508;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA01488 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:47:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA12928; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:14:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:12:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA12802; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:12:08 -0600 From: colleen_m_boyce@graco.com Message-Id: <9803138898.AA889800942@graco.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.11.00.3 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 98 09:02:19 -0600 To: Subject: [PDF] PSPrinter and no PS file MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm using PSPrinter with QXP 3.3.2 to create a PDF file. It almost completes the spooling process (gets to pg. 12 of 12), then posts error messages as follows: Acrobat Distiller Assistant could not locate a postscript file. No PDF file will be created. The spool file could not be saved because there was not enough disk space. Disk is fill [-34]. I am using the HP Color LaserJet printer driver, and smooth graphics is turned off. 25,000 kb RAM is allocated to Acrobat Distiller. 252 Mb is available on my hard disk, with 65 Mb RAM and virtural memory turned off. System 7.5.5. The file is cmyk with photos containing clipping paths, and graphics with graduated fills. The quark document and art files occupy 344 Mb disk space and are stored on CD. Tried distilling w/o the art files, using just Quark's preview pictures. That did create a PDF, but the clipping paths were lost. Tried different printer drivers with no success. I'm trying to avoid saving a postscript file since I don't have disk space to do that. Was hoping that increasing Distiller's RAM would prove successful. I'm stumped and stooped over, and hoping for helpful tips. Colleen Boyce Graco Inc, Mpls, MN +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 15:47:14-GMT,3235;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA01492 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:47:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA14337; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:38:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:36:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14229; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:36:35 -0600 X-Sender: agodbout@10.0.0.1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:16:37 -0300 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: agodbout@mccurdy.ns.ca (Alain Godbout) Subject: Re: [PDF] scanning /file size question Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Our experience has been that scanning is best done as a separate first step, prior to PDF processing. Appropriate scanning software for volume conversions will save scans in Group IV tiff, with very high compression ratios. An alternative is ScanFix post-scan editing software (available from Emerge) that writes Group IV. SanFix also provides superb image enhancement, with payoffs not only in image clarity & OCR results, but also even high compression ratios. All the best! >We've been scanning documents (mostly text) using Exchange. The size of >the resulting PDF file is quite large. If we print the PDF to Distiller >Assistant v3.0 the new PDF is close to 50% smaller in size. Then we >capture the documents with either the Capture plug-in in Exchange or with >Capture 2.0. > >We need to keep the files as small as possible, but it seems like there >should be an easier, more efficient way to do this. Is there a way to get >the smaller sized file from the first scan? We've looked at the PDF writer >set-up thinking that might have something to do with compression during >scanning - does it? On the off chance that it does have something to do >with compression during the scanning process, we did a test with PDF writer >set for 2.1 compatibility, jpeg-medium and again at 3.0 compatability, >jpeg-medium: resulting file size was the same for both. We then printed >both documents to the Dist. Asst and the size of the new PDFs were both >reduced about the same (2.1 was actually a bit smaller). > >Is there a way to get the smaller file size when the document is scanned - >without having to go through the process of distilling the files? > >Thanks, > >Sue > > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 15:48:27-GMT,1807;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA01529 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:48:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA13719; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:27:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:25:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA13566; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:25:17 -0600 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <51EB8019F06FD11195C100805FD44F804A7E0C@ExchangeMN2.ATK.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:25:35 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Jonathan Bauer Subject: [PDF] URL in PDF rudimentary question Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello all: Maybe because it was never a concern, maybe I'm just dense today, or maybe it's friday the thirteenth and a full moon, but I awoke this morning not knowing if (and how) I can embed an http URL or mailto: into a pdf file as I distill without manual intervention (e.g. inserting hypertext markers in framemaker). Is this another way of asking how to convert html to PDF? What a morning! Can someone point to the right place in the acrobat manuals or somewhere? TIA, /jonathan mailto:jhbauer@akula.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 15:49:14-GMT,3560;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA01550 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:49:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA14500; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:41:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:39:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14387; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:39:16 -0600 Message-ID: <004901bd4e95$2876a640$1f40dec2@nplum.demon.co.uk> From: Nic Plum To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at post.mail.demon.net Subject: Re: [PDF] Max Length of Bookmark title Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:28:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I think from dim and distant memories of the pdfmark specification that you may be right. Rather than cut down the size of a bookmark it might of course be better to instill some discipline into the authors and get them to write a short title rather than an essay! ;-) As someone famous once said in not so many words (!), "forgive me ..for I didn't have the time to make it any shorter" (or something to this effect!) Nic. _____________________________________________________________________ Buckden, < www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/ > Huntingdon, For information management and Cambs, Adobe Acrobat integration from UK. within your favourite PE18 9SZ wordprocessor _____________________________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: JOEL.FINKLE@monsanto.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: 13 March 1998 14:59 Subject: Re: [PDF] Max Length of Bookmark title > >>Has anyone come across a maximum length for a bookmark title? I've got a >>bookmark that starts out OK, but then end with "..." > >From my experiments with writing plug-ins to generate bookmarks, 255 >characters is about where problems begin. I haven't tried to narrow it >down to an exact, but I'd be willing to bet that's the limit. > >On the other hand, to view 255 characters of a bookmark, you'd need to >make the bookmark pane the entire width of the screen on a 19" monitor. > >My general rule is that if a section heading or table title (for instance) >runs over more than one line, just include the first line followed by >"..." > >Joel Finkle >G.D. Searle >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- ----+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- ----+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 16:16:57-GMT,3397;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02496 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:16:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA14798; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:46:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:44:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14644; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:44:44 -0600 Message-ID: <004a01bd4e95$29ef8aa0$1f40dec2@nplum.demon.co.uk> From: Nic Plum To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at post.mail.demon.net Subject: Re: [PDF] Quite Imposioning?? Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:30:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 The person you want to ask is young Mr (Aandi) Inston (+AEA-quite.com).... where are you Aandi? Nic. +AF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBf- Buckden, +ADw- www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/ +AD4- Huntingdon, For information management and Cambs, Adobe Acrobat integration from UK. within your favourite PE18 9SZ wordprocessor +AF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBfAF8AXwBf- -----Original Message----- From: M. Randall Mueller +ADw-mueller+AEA-fidnet.com+AD4- To: 'PDF Discussion Group' +ADw-pdf+AEA-lists.pdfzone.com+AD4- Date: 13 March 1998 12:21 Subject: +AFs-PDF+AF0- Quite Imposioning?? +AD4- +AD4-Anyone using this? Can you tell me if this is what will work for us? +AD4- +AD4-We step stock items from business cards to postcards in quarkxpress +AD4-using templates, which cuting dies have been made from to cut the +AD4-finished postcards done on offset and business cards that have been +AD4-silkscreen and placed on magnetic material. Will quite allow me this +AD4-precision and use of our exsisting templates to be used? Can it step +AD4-like quarkxpress? +AD4- +AD4-Randall +AD4--- +AD4-mueller+AEA-fidnet.com +AD4-http://whdesign.com +AD4-WebHeadBookShop - WebTV Talk +AD4AKw--------------------------------------------------------------------- --- +AD4- PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists +AD4- Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html +AD4AKw--------------------------------------------------------------------- --- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 16:28:17-GMT,1793;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02828 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:28:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA15526; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:58:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:56:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA15352; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:56:46 -0600 Message-ID: <350957E1.7EC4@spokanecounty.org> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 07:59:29 -0800 From: Hal Allert Organization: Spokane County X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf listserver Subject: [PDF] optimizing in Exchange Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have found that, after using Distiller and opening my document in Exchange, the file size is larger if i check the optimize box and do a 'Save As' than if I just 'Save' without the optimize box checked. I know that I want as small a file as possible to cut down on loading time but I thought optimizing was the standard thing to do. Just what does it do that it increases the file Size Hal allert Spokane County Long Range Planning Spokane Washington, USA +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 16:30:41-GMT,3584;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02876 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:30:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA16997; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:11:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:09:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16787; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:09:45 -0600 Date: 13 Mar 98 09:13:40 -0700 From: Dennis Walker Subject: RE: [PDF] PSPrinter and no PS file To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-ID: <1322342261-5380384@mail.inpractice.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA16778 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Reply to: RE: [PDF] PSPrinter and no PS file You have to write the ps file to disk in order to distill to pdf. I would suggest doing one page at a time, since disk space is a problem. You need to select the Acrobat Distiller 3.0 PPD, however instead of the HP Color LaserJet PPD (I assume that's the PPD, you called it a driver, yet you also said you're using PSPrinter). Also I would recommened not using Assistant; launch Distiller manually and verify settings before distiling. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 x262 voice InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax colleen_m_boyce wrote: > > >I'm using PSPrinter with QXP 3.3.2 to create a PDF file. It almost >completes the >spooling process (gets to pg. 12 of 12), then posts error messages as follows: >Acrobat Distiller Assistant could not locate a postscript file. No PDF file will >be >created. The spool file could not be saved because there was not enough disk >space. >Disk is fill [-34]. > >I am using the HP Color LaserJet printer driver, and smooth graphics is turned >off. >25,000 kb RAM is allocated to Acrobat Distiller. 252 Mb is available on my hard >disk, with 65 Mb RAM and virtural memory turned off. System 7.5.5. > >The file is cmyk with photos containing clipping paths, and graphics with >graduated >fills. The quark document and art files occupy 344 Mb disk space and are stored >on >CD. > >Tried distilling w/o the art files, using just Quark's preview pictures. That >did create a >PDF, but the clipping paths were lost. Tried different printer drivers with no >success. > >I'm trying to avoid saving a postscript file since I don't have disk space to do >that. >Was hoping that increasing Distiller's RAM would prove successful. I'm stumped >and stooped over, and hoping for helpful tips. > >Colleen Boyce >Graco Inc, Mpls, MN > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 16:47:46-GMT,2493;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03312 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:47:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA17941; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:19:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:17:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17730; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:17:05 -0600 Message-ID: <35095C29.47C38F6D@beacon.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:17:45 -0500 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PSPrinter and no PS file References: <9803138898.AA889800942@graco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 colleen_m_boyce@graco.com wrote: > > I'm using PSPrinter with QXP 3.3.2 to create a PDF file. It almost completes the > spooling process (gets to pg. 12 of 12), then posts error messages as follows: > Acrobat Distiller Assistant could not locate a postscript file. No PDF file will > be created. The spool file could not be saved because there was not enough disk > space. Disk is fill [-34]. > > [...] 25,000 kb RAM is allocated to Acrobat Distiller. 252 Mb is available on > my hard disk, with 65 Mb RAM and virtural memory turned off. System 7.5.5. > > The file is cmyk with photos containing clipping paths, and graphics with > graduated fills. The quark document and art files occupy 344 Mb disk space and > are stored on CD. I think you are under the impression that using Distiller Assistant doesn't require the creation of a PostScript file, but that's wrong. Therefore, roughly, 344 > 252 ==> you can't create the PostScript file If disk space is really that tight, then you may want to create several PDFs for chunks of the document, and then use Acrobat Exchange to merge them together. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 16:51:23-GMT,3798;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03415 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:51:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA18239; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:22:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:20:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA18143; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:20:47 -0600 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <882565C6.00591D84.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:18:26 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Alter bookmark width? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 If you're sending the Reader installation program to clients on a CD along with the PDF files, couldn't you alter the appropriate line in the .ini file before burning the CD? Then when Reader installs ,the bookmark pane would open the way you want it to. Of course, once on an individual's computer they could - if they knew how - change this setting. Are there legal issues involved with changing the .ini file in the installation program? Sue Duff Johnson on 03/12/98 02:16:56 PM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: Re: [PDF] Alter bookmark width? Jeremy: As you say... this is the "real" question I answered before. And the answer is still "Nope". In other words, there is no way to configure the width of the bookmark pane at the _document level_, as opposed to the _installation level_. ini file tweaks are nice, but they assume control over the app itself. Hope this helps (although I suspect it's not want you wanted to hear). Jeremy Treister wrote: > > The real question, probably, is: Can the developer of the PDF project change > the width of the bookmark pane so the end user (in Reader or Exchange) sees > it the way the developer intended? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Johnston,Randy > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Date: Thursday, March 12, 1998 3:41 PM > Subject: RE: [PDF] Alter bookmark width? > > > > >Bob Perry wrote > > > >>>Is there a way to make the default bookmark width wider? I need > >more > >>>room there for reading long-named bookmarks. > > > >If your using Exchange, there is a line in the Acroexch.ini file > >located in the Windows directory that controls the default width for > >the overview pane. It's called DefaultSplitterPos=140, 140 is the > >default and you can increase that number to increase the width of the > >overview pane. I've found that 200 works just fine for me. The > >Reader .ini file is called Acroread.ini. > -- regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1755 Broadway, Suite 520, Oakland, CA 94612 Phone: (510) 986-0250 Fax: (510) 986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com http://www.document-solutions.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 16:51:57-GMT,2750;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03427 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:51:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA18408; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:26:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:24:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA18294; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:24:29 -0600 X-Sender: gcosimin@mail-345 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9803138898.AA889800942@graco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:26:46 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Gary Cosimini Subject: Re: [PDF] PSPrinter and no PS file Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >I'm using PSPrinter with QXP 3.3.2 to create a PDF file. It almost >completes the >spooling process (gets to pg. 12 of 12), then posts error messages as >follows: >Acrobat Distiller Assistant could not locate a postscript file. No PDF >file will >be >created. The spool file could not be saved because there was not enough disk >space. >Disk is fill [-34]. >... 252 Mb is available on my hard >disk... > >...The quark document and art files occupy 344 Mb disk space and are stored >on CD. >From here it looks like the error message is correct (for a change!): you don't have enough disk space to spool 344 megabytes of PostScript on 244 megabytes of space. The printer driver needs to write the contents to disk before beginning to distill, then Distiller needs some scratch space as well. Your choices are: 1. Get a larger hard disk 2. Free up some space on your existing hard disk 3. Reduce the resolution of your largest graphics to closer to what Distiller's resampling is set to. This means you'd have to move them to your hard disk or an external disk like a ZIP. 4. Distill the file in two parts, pages 1-6 and 7-12, then use Exchange to merge the two. Remember to "Save As... Optimized" after merging the two PDFs. Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems -------------------------- Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems Incorporated 780 Third Avenue, 41st Floor New York, NY 10017 Reception (212) 446-3800 Fax (212) 446-3802 Email gcosimin@adobe.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 16:52:53-GMT,2291;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03451 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:52:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA17500; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:15:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:13:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17287; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:13:31 -0600 Message-ID: <35095ADB.4D09C594@computerstream.co.uk> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:12:11 +0000 From: Phil Smith Organization: Computerstream Limited X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] URL in PDF rudimentary question X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Jonathan, This is from p.11 of the pdfmark Reference Manual: % Custom Link action (URI link for the Acrobat WebLink plug-in) [ /Rect [ 50 425 295 445 ] /Action << /Subtype /URI /URI (http://www.adobe.com) >> /Border [ 0 0 2 ] /Color [ .7 0 0 ] /Subtype /Link /ANN pdfmark Hope this helps. Phil. Jonathan Bauer wrote: > > Hello all: > > Maybe because it was never a concern, maybe I'm just dense today, or maybe > it's friday the thirteenth and a full moon, but I awoke this morning not > knowing if (and how) I can embed an http URL or mailto: into a pdf file as > I distill without manual intervention (e.g. inserting hypertext markers in > framemaker). Is this another way of asking how to convert html to PDF? > > What a morning! Can someone point to the right place in the acrobat manuals > or somewhere? > > TIA, > > /jonathan > > mailto:jhbauer@akula.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 17:14:34-GMT,2031;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA04038 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:14:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA19162; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:41:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:38:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA18981; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:38:55 -0600 Message-ID: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA2713022D@MARS> From: "Schiff, Kenny" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Quark Settings? Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:35:21 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm working with a designer who uses QuarkXpress 3.32 on the Mac, with lots of Illustrator 6.0 drawings inside. We've been using Acrobat as a means of previewing and sharing the works in progress. The Quark output via PDF is terrible and often inaccurate. The biggest problem is with the EPS graphics with clipping paths. The way he's using Acrobat forces the output to no be properly layered. In the early stages of development this is OK, but as we get closer to sending out to our service bureau/printer, this is no longer workable. The odd thing, is that our printer is able to deliver excellent looking 4C PDFs to me. This is obviously a settings issue. Can someone chime in a give a sense of what we should be looking for on his side to improve his output? +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 17:32:04-GMT,4137;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA04496 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:32:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA21378; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:20:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:18:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21263; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:18:55 -0600 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <882565C6.005E8CBF.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:16:55 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] scanning /file size question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanks for the info. As I mentioned, we've been doing some experimenting. Maybe someone can comment on why/how... Scanned/exported as group III - can be captured using 2.01 cannot be captured with Exchange plug-in Scanned/exported as group IV - can be captured using Exchange plug-in cannot be captured using 2.01 sue agodbout@mccurdy.ns.ca (Alain Godbout) on 03/13/98 04:16:37 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: Re: [PDF] scanning /file size question Our experience has been that scanning is best done as a separate first step, prior to PDF processing. Appropriate scanning software for volume conversions will save scans in Group IV tiff, with very high compression ratios. An alternative is ScanFix post-scan editing software (available from Emerge) that writes Group IV. SanFix also provides superb image enhancement, with payoffs not only in image clarity & OCR results, but also even high compression ratios. All the best! >We've been scanning documents (mostly text) using Exchange. The size of >the resulting PDF file is quite large. If we print the PDF to Distiller >Assistant v3.0 the new PDF is close to 50% smaller in size. Then we >capture the documents with either the Capture plug-in in Exchange or with >Capture 2.0. > >We need to keep the files as small as possible, but it seems like there >should be an easier, more efficient way to do this. Is there a way to get >the smaller sized file from the first scan? We've looked at the PDF writer >set-up thinking that might have something to do with compression during >scanning - does it? On the off chance that it does have something to do >with compression during the scanning process, we did a test with PDF writer >set for 2.1 compatibility, jpeg-medium and again at 3.0 compatability, >jpeg-medium: resulting file size was the same for both. We then printed >both documents to the Dist. Asst and the size of the new PDFs were both >reduced about the same (2.1 was actually a bit smaller). > >Is there a way to get the smaller file size when the document is scanned - >without having to go through the process of distilling the files? > >Thanks, > >Sue > > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 17:50:24-GMT,2300;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA05002 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:50:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA21822; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:27:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:26:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21730; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:26:34 -0600 Message-ID: <350969E2.1052@document-solutions.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:16:18 -0800 From: Duff Johnson Organization: Document Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] scanning /file size question References: <882565C6.005E8CBF.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Sue: First, if you have Capture, you can/should ignore the Exchange plug-in -- it has only a small fraction of the functionality of the Capture product. Second.... we process G4 TIFFs through Capture 2.0 all the time... Be sure there's not something else in your way. sgililland@nexstar.com wrote: > > Thanks for the info. > > As I mentioned, we've been doing some experimenting. Maybe someone can > comment on why/how... > > Scanned/exported as group III - can be captured using 2.01 > cannot be captured with Exchange plug-in > > Scanned/exported as group IV - can be captured using Exchange plug-in > cannot be captured using 2.01 > -- regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1755 Broadway, Suite 520, Oakland, CA 94612 Phone: (510) 986-0250 Fax: (510) 986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com http://www.document-solutions.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 18:05:16-GMT,1298;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05390 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:05:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA22372; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:37:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:35:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA22249; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:35:56 -0600 From: vhhuston@switch.com Date: Fri, 13 Mar 98 12:35:55 EST Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: re: [PDF] Quark Settings? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 You have to use Distiller with Quark. If he is using PDF Writer, it won't work. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 18:05:28-GMT,2473;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05404 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:05:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA21502; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:21:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:20:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21429; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:20:25 -0600 X-Sender: agodbout@10.0.0.1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:10:31 -0300 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: agodbout@mccurdy.ns.ca (Alain Godbout) Subject: Re: [PDF] Quite Imposioning?? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 QI works quite well (?!?). There are higher end options. In the prepress print world we use PressWise form Luminous Corporation (now Imation Software) and Preps from ScenicSoft. Other products are Impostrip from Ultimate Technologies, and INposition from DK&A. These programs now all accept PDF. They are ultra-precise, but priced in the 4-digit range. the company URLs are as you would expect. All the best. >Anyone using this? Can you tell me if this is what will work for us? > >We step stock items from business cards to postcards in quarkxpress >using templates, which cuting dies have been made from to cut the >finished postcards done on offset and business cards that have been >silkscreen and placed on magnetic material. Will quite allow me this >precision and use of our exsisting templates to be used? Can it step >like quarkxpress? > >Randall >-- >mueller@fidnet.com >http://whdesign.com >WebHeadBookShop - WebTV Talk >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 18:52:05-GMT,2634;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06777 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:52:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA25029; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:29:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:27:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA24907; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:27:51 -0600 From: "Norman Brandsma" To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] PDF's on UNIX Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 18:28:55 -0700 Message-Id: <9803131128592J.00264@ttgkami.edm.ttg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Internet MailBridge Gateway 1.33.160 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Sorry everyone, I am reposting this message. I received my daily PDF zone batch of messages and although the index shows that my original message had been responded to, it appears that the actual response message was not included in the batch. I have been given this message from a consultant. As I am not familiar with UNIX standards, I'd like to verify that the information contained is accurate. Any information would be greatly appreciated. File names should be typed in lower-case letters. Lower-case file names are the most transferable between different computer operating systems. They can move from all Intel platforms to Unix-based systems. This is important for files that contain hyperlinks. For example, it has been found that hyperlinks on PDF files created in Windows that have mixed case file names will not work on a Unix platform. Files may move to different operating systems depending on how they are delivered to the end user. The Unix platform is popular for Web servers so if there is any chance of documents being delivered via an Internet/ Intranet, lower-case file-naming conventions will avoid large-scale future rework. As a rule of thumb, lower-case filenames in 8.3 format will work on nearly any system. Norm Brandsma nbrandsma@ttg-inc.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 18:54:26-GMT,3516;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06865 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:54:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA25025; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:29:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:28:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA24959; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:28:46 -0600 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9803138898.AA889800942@graco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:22:53 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] PSPrinter and no PS file Cc: colleen_m_boyce@graco.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Colleen, There are two more things you can try: Do use just another printer driver (such as a Color LaserWriter or so and save the PS file to disk. Then use the Distiller to create the PDF. However, this may fail as well, and you will get another error message, saying that the spool file cannot be saved because the disk is full. This brings me to the second point: Clear up even more disk space on your system disk/partition. It could be that a few additional Megs should do it. Increasing Distiller's RAM does not help much. The error message says that there may be not enough disk space. However, if you would just print pages 1 to 6, and then 7 to 12, you might have enough space. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap _____________ >I'm using PSPrinter with QXP 3.3.2 to create a PDF file. It almost >completes the >spooling process (gets to pg. 12 of 12), then posts error messages as >follows: >Acrobat Distiller Assistant could not locate a postscript file. No PDF >file will >be >created. The spool file could not be saved because there was not enough disk >space. >Disk is fill [-34]. > >I am using the HP Color LaserJet printer driver, and smooth graphics is turned >off. >25,000 kb RAM is allocated to Acrobat Distiller. 252 Mb is available on my >hard >disk, with 65 Mb RAM and virtural memory turned off. System 7.5.5. > >The file is cmyk with photos containing clipping paths, and graphics with >graduated >fills. The quark document and art files occupy 344 Mb disk space and are >stored >on >CD. > >Tried distilling w/o the art files, using just Quark's preview pictures. That >did create a >PDF, but the clipping paths were lost. Tried different printer drivers with no >success. > >I'm trying to avoid saving a postscript file since I don't have disk space >to do >that. >Was hoping that increasing Distiller's RAM would prove successful. I'm >stumped >and stooped over, and hoping for helpful tips. > >Colleen Boyce >Graco Inc, Mpls, MN > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 20:05:43-GMT,3889;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA08789 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:05:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA28324; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:37:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:34:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA28186; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:34:54 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980313193459.00930d78@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:34:59 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, "Norman Brandsma" From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF's on UNIX Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 The only way to guarantee portability of file names is to use a file naming standard that is supported by all of the target platforms. The only such standard of which I am aware is ISO 9660 Level 1, which specifies that only UPPERCASE A-Z, 0-9, and the Underscore are allowed in file and directory names; the Semicolon may be used to delimit file versions, but this is not universally supported. All names (files and directories) must follow the 8.3 convention, directory names must not have extensions, and directories cannot be nested more than 8 levels deep. Sorry, but your consultant is mistaken. If you create a CD-ROM with non-ISO-9660-compliant file names, it will not be usable on a great many systems. Now, if your only target is Unix, then you can use all lowercase or whatever else you want that Unix allows -- just don't expect non-Unix systems to be able to access or use your files. Tom Thiersch At 06:28 PM 3/13/98 -0700, you wrote: > >Sorry everyone, I am reposting this message. I received my daily PDF >zone batch of messages and although the index shows that my original >message had been responded to, it appears that the actual response >message was not included in the batch. > >I have been given this message from a consultant. As I am not familiar with UNIX standards, I'd like to verify that the information contained is accurate. Any information would be greatly appreciated. > >File names should be typed in lower-case letters. Lower-case file names are the most transferable between different computer operating systems. They can move from all Intel platforms to Unix-based systems. This is important for files that contain hyperlinks. For example, it has been found that hyperlinks on PDF files created in Windows that have mixed case file names will not work on a Unix platform. Files may move to different operating systems depending on how they are delivered to the end user. The Unix platform is popular for Web servers so if there is any chance of documents being delivered via an Internet/ Intranet, lower-case file-naming conventions will avoid large-scale future rework. As a rule of thumb, lower-case filenames in 8.3 format will work on nearly any system. > >Norm Brandsma >nbrandsma@ttg-inc.com > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 23:04:29-GMT,2363;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA13327 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:04:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA00444; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:12:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:10:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA00370; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:10:56 -0600 Message-Id: <9803132100.AA07270@atla3> Subject: Re: [PDF] Quark Settings? Date: Fri, 13 Mar 98 16:08:55 -0400 X-Sender: mjahn@atla3.agfa.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: mjahn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >I'm working with a designer <--snip--> The way he's using Acrobat forces >the output to no be properly layered. > >In the early stages of development this is OK, but as we get closer to >sending out to our service bureau/printer, this is no longer workable. > >The odd thing, is that our printer is able to deliver excellent looking >4C PDFs to me. This is obviously a settings issue. Can someone chime in >a give a sense of what we should be looking for on his side to improve >his output? go to www.jahn.org - scroll to get the Distiller set up info -- beyond this -- besides the obvious questions of ... "How is the Quark page being built" and "how are they creating PostScript from Quark" and "How is Distiller Set-Up in the job options" and "How are they getting from PDF to the RIP" what does the term "not properly layered" mean? Please reply to mikejahn@jahn.com Michael Jahn PDF Evangelist Agfa-Gevaert N.V. 200 Ballardvale St. MS 200-4-5H Wilmington, MA 01887-1069 P: 978.658.0200 ext 5504 I: www.jahn.org Cell Phone: 617.605.5716 F: 508.658.8982 (but don't send me a FAX -send a PDF file!) +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 23:04:37-GMT,3193;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA13338 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:04:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA31724; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:43:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:40:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA31492; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:40:00 -0600 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <882565C6.0070AC10.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:38:05 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] scanning /file size question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Now I'm going to bug you! what else could be causing the problem? What should we be looking for? We do get a message that says the page is too big - page size shown for the G4 tiff is larger than 8-1/2x11, (the G3 tiff page size is 8-1/2x11). We've check the page size in the scanner set-up, it's set at 8-1/2 x 11. We don't have many options to choose from when setting up the scanner: MODE: Black & White, DITHER: none, and Page size. When you have a minute I'd appreciate your thoughts. Thanks, Sue Duff Johnson on 03/13/98 09:16:18 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: Re: [PDF] scanning /file size question Sue: First, if you have Capture, you can/should ignore the Exchange plug-in -- it has only a small fraction of the functionality of the Capture product. Second.... we process G4 TIFFs through Capture 2.0 all the time... Be sure there's not something else in your way. sgililland@nexstar.com wrote: > > Thanks for the info. > > As I mentioned, we've been doing some experimenting. Maybe someone can > comment on why/how... > > Scanned/exported as group III - can be captured using 2.01 > cannot be captured with Exchange plug-in > > Scanned/exported as group IV - can be captured using Exchange plug-in > cannot be captured using 2.01 > -- regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1755 Broadway, Suite 520, Oakland, CA 94612 Phone: (510) 986-0250 Fax: (510) 986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com http://www.document-solutions.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 13-Mar-1998 23:38:58-GMT,2757;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA14274 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:38:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA05891; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:18:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:14:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA05727; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:14:54 -0600 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <350957E1.7EC4@spokanecounty.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:40:42 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] optimizing in Exchange Cc: Hal Allert Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 When optimizing a file, Exchange does change the internal structure of your document. And in some cases, it is indeed possible that the file gets bigger. I had that effect with some two- or three-page files containing a lot of annotations. The file size difference could come from the embedded fonts. You might check in the PDF Reference Manual, chapter Linearization. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ___________ >I have found that, after using Distiller and opening my document in >Exchange, the file size is larger if i check the optimize box and do a >'Save As' than if I just 'Save' without the optimize box checked. I >know that I want as small a file as possible to cut down on loading time >but I thought optimizing was the standard thing to do. Just what does it >do that it increases the file >Size > >Hal allert >Spokane County Long Range Planning >Spokane Washington, USA >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Mar-1998 4:57:05-GMT,2838;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA20884 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 21:57:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA12992; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:42:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:39:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA12677; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:39:34 -0600 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:40:13 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] Emerge***EXTRA*** 3/13/98 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ============================================================ V.03, N.08 ***Emerge EXTRA*** is now available on the Web: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/extra31398.html ============================================================ The current issue of our Acrobat PDF newsweekly features: + PDF Hoopl-la from Coast to Coast (U.S., that is) * Good & bad news about NCAA basketball brackets in PDF + New PDF Conversion Tool, Forms Samples, Free Seminar * Check out CDC's Local Render, test drive Acrobat forms + Judgment Day/Week for PDF? - Your Turn to Vote * Opinion column sparks lively discussions on PDF + Electronic Newsletter Follows Secure PDF Business Model * The Kleper Report turns to Acrobat & SoftLock + PDF: The OTHER Web Publishing Tool -- & New Cult * Authors see Heaven's Gate likeness in Acrobat users? + Secrets of Desktop Publishing Revealed - The Dirty Dozen * Print shop offers guide, lists 12 common DTP mistakes + Recent Reader Feedback * Subscriber has kudos for Acrobat PDF Newsweekly ... and more. Past issues are available at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/ Subscribe to the email version at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html rgds~Kurt ---> T h e E m e r g e P D F z o n e <--- "Solutions for PDF Professionals" Kurt Foss Internet Communications Manager EMERGE (800)829-2459 | (608)829-3454 x102 579 D'Onofrio Drive FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Mar-1998 5:02:17-GMT,1549;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA21021 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 22:02:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA09683; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:14:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:11:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA09568; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:11:57 -0600 Message-ID: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA27130246@MARS> From: "Schiff, Kenny" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] PDFMaker and Book Marks Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:08:22 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have a large word 97 doc that uses the standard heading styles, yet PDFMaker appears to be ignoring turning these into bookmarks. I have tried using both methods (use default word, and also matching the hiearchy). Can anyone suggest a road to go down for troubleshooting? +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Mar-1998 7:47:25-GMT,2346;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA24560 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 00:47:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA21606; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 01:27:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 14 Mar 1998 01:24:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA21501; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 01:24:38 -0600 Message-Id: <199803140725.XAA23451@smtp2.teleport.com> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer for OS/2 (Green Edition Ver 2.5) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:25:36 PDT From: Patrick West Subject: Re: [PDF] ?Word97 macro needs Acrobat Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ** Reply to note from "Arnoud Jippes" Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:40:30 +0100 I have no idea if this is allowed by the licence. I assume you backup your machines regularly. So, have a freshly backuped machine. Or set all archive bits to off. Then run the install of the Word97 Adobe macro. Now do an incrematial backup to floppy using the included Win95 backup tool. This will id all the files just installed. Plus the paths. Use the disks to do an install on a machine that does not have exchange. If it works all is well and good. Now you have a list of files and where they go in the system. ==================================================================== > So I'm still very interested in a way to install the Word97 Adobe > macro without the need for Arobat itself. Please, send me your > solutions (if any), you're not aiding a criminal ;) ==================================================================== Patrick West using Post Road Mailer 2.5 Running OS/2 Warp 3.0 on an IBM Thinkpad 360 CSE PGPKey fingerprint = F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16 DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 14-Mar-1998 23:18:14-GMT,2852;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA04013 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 03:46:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA25985; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 04:26:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 14 Mar 1998 04:23:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA25887; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 04:23:41 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD4F33.96055460.davec@docctrl.com> From: David Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDFMaker and Book Marks Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 10:11:19 -0000 Organization: Computerised Document Control Ltd X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >I have a large word 97 doc that uses the standard heading styles, yet >PDFMaker appears to be ignoring turning these into bookmarks. I have >tried >using both methods (use default word, and also matching the hiearchy). >Can anyone suggest a road to go down for troubleshooting? You could try our Local Render product. Fee eval available - contact me or check our www.docctrl.com. It does cost money but it does work ;-) drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat -----Original Message----- From: Schiff, Kenny [SMTP:Kenny.Schiff@rauland.com] Sent: 14 March 1998 01:08 To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: [PDF] PDFMaker and Book Marks I have a large word 97 doc that uses the standard heading styles, yet PDFMaker appears to be ignoring turning these into bookmarks. I have tried using both methods (use default word, and also matching the hiearchy). Can anyone suggest a road to go down for troubleshooting? +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Mar-1998 16:20:21-GMT,2505;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19907 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 09:20:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA11181; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 09:54:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 15 Mar 1998 09:45:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10832; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 09:45:04 -0600 Message-Id: <199803151545.HAA15791@db.emuni.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "David M. Davisson" Organization: Pacific Financial Printing To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 07:46:20 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] PDF File Sizes X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I would like some opinions and experience about large PDF files from this list. We have been testing the creation of PDF file sizes in excess of 100Mb. These PDF files are image only with bookmarks and would utltimately be published to CD-ROM. Our conventional wisdom has always been that PDF file sizes need to be small to improve performance. But our tests of file sizes over 137Mb with 1,615 pages written to CD has yet to produce any performance degradation on the following types of operating systems and memory configs using Reader 3.01: Win95a 486 25MHz 16Mb RAM 2x CD Win95b Pentium 90 32Mb RAM 4xCD Macintosh G3 266MHz 96Mb RAM 24x CD Macintosh IIcx 25MHz 16Mb RAM 24x CD Winnt4.0 Pentium 120 32Mb RAM 8x CD Winnt4.0 Pentium II 300MHz 128Mb RAM 24x CD Sun Sparc 20 50MHz 256Mb RAM 2x CD Of course user navigation and search is a big deal in a file so large. But can anybody give me a reason why gigantic PDF file sizes won't work? ---------- David M. Davisson Vice President Technology and Information Systems Pacific Financial Printing 4020 Campbell Avenue Menlo Park, CA 94025 (650) 328-1500 davisson@pfp.net +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Mar-1998 18:16:09-GMT,1637;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21391 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 11:16:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA15071; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 11:55:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 15 Mar 1998 11:51:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA14932; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 11:51:35 -0600 X-Sender: jwalker@smtp.binex.com (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: jwalker@c-telmedia.com (John Walker) Subject: [PDF] Extracting Total Number of Pages from a PDF File Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:51:45 -0500 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dear All, Iam searching for a way to extract the total number of pages and the filename from several thousand PDF files without opening individual files. There was a similar request back on February 3 titled "Viewing". I am not sure this was answered. Any help would save my Index finger from Repetitive Strain Injury. Hope there is a solution. John +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Mar-1998 18:36:19-GMT,3253;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21673 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 11:36:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA16297; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:28:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:25:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA16197; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:25:50 -0600 Message-ID: <350C15CF.BE0FB262@glyphica.com> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 09:54:23 -0800 From: "D. Paknad" Organization: Glyphica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF File Sizes References: <199803151545.HAA15791@db.emuni.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 David - Have you compared your large files to a more lean file, then asked users about their experience? Our clients certainly do complain about files you describe on lower-power PCs and Macs.... particularly if they know what performance MIGHT be. Have you asked customers (rather than familiar users) to assess this performance? The other point for small files size is that they can be ported to and delivered on the web.... larger files clog pipes. Lots of folks think of dual-purpose content these days; so if you go for the large files, they'll pay to do it once cheap and slow and then a second time to get it Web-ready.... a poor value. Just some thoughts, Deidre Paknad .......................................... Glyphica Acrobat & Web Publishing http://www.glyphica.com PurePDF: The Acrobat Info Source on the Web http://www.PurePDF.com .......................................... David M. Davisson wrote: > I would like some opinions and experience about large PDF files from this > list. We have been testing the creation of PDF file sizes in excess of > 100Mb. These PDF files are image only with bookmarks and would utltimately > be published to CD-ROM. Our conventional wisdom has always been that PDF > file sizes need to be small to improve performance. But our tests of file > sizes over 137Mb with 1,615 pages written to CD has yet to produce any > performance degradation on the following types of operating systems and > memory configs using Reader 3.01: > > Win95a 486 25MHz 16Mb RAM 2x CD > Win95b Pentium 90 32Mb RAM 4xCD > Macintosh G3 266MHz 96Mb RAM 24x CD > Macintosh IIcx 25MHz 16Mb RAM 24x CD > Winnt4.0 Pentium 120 32Mb RAM 8x CD > Winnt4.0 Pentium II 300MHz 128Mb RAM 24x CD > Sun Sparc 20 50MHz 256Mb RAM 2x CD > > Of course user navigation and search is a big deal in a file so large. But > can anybody give me a reason why gigantic PDF file sizes won't work? +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Mar-1998 18:52:53-GMT,4057;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21885 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 11:52:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA16578; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:35:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:33:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA16455; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:33:14 -0600 Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 13:33:17 -0500 From: olaf druemmer Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF File Sizes To: PDF listserver Message-ID: <199803151333_MC2-36D3-6CEE@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA16452 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I wouldn't expect any performance degradation for huge file sizes. You may possibly see performance degradation for PDF files with very many pages. Reason: Acrobat/PDF make use of random access for accessing pages through a cross refence eityh pointers to all pages in the file. As the file system of all computers currently around allows for random access to a file on a hard disk, it does not matter if your needed page is buried in huge file or a small file. Nevertheless, I never tested this myself! Olaf Druemmer > > >I would like some opinions and experience about large PDF files from this >list. We have been testing the creation of PDF file sizes in excess of >100Mb. These PDF files are image only with bookmarks and would utltimately >be published to CD-ROM. Our conventional wisdom has always been that PDF >file sizes need to be small to improve performance. But our tests of file >sizes over 137Mb with 1,615 pages written to CD has yet to produce any >performance degradation on the following types of operating systems and >memory configs using Reader 3.01: > >Win95a 486 25MHz 16Mb RAM 2x CD >Win95b Pentium 90 32Mb RAM 4xCD >Macintosh G3 266MHz 96Mb RAM 24x CD >Macintosh IIcx 25MHz 16Mb RAM 24x CD >Winnt4.0 Pentium 120 32Mb RAM 8x CD >Winnt4.0 Pentium II 300MHz 128Mb RAM 24x CD >Sun Sparc 20 50MHz 256Mb RAM 2x CD > >Of course user navigation and search is a big deal in a file so large. But >can anybody give me a reason why gigantic PDF file sizes won't work? >---------- >David M. Davisson >Vice President Technology and Information Systems >Pacific Financial Printing >4020 Campbell Avenue >Menlo Park, CA 94025 >(650) 328-1500 >davisson@pfp.net >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- *** See us at Seybold New York, March 17-19,1998, Booth Number 2071 *** *** and at Adobe's Developer Pavilion, Booth Number 1534 *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Mar-1998 19:46:46-GMT,2353;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22589 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:46:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA18286; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 13:27:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 15 Mar 1998 13:24:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA18120; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 13:24:29 -0600 Message-ID: <350C287E.F58@document-solutions.com> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 11:14:06 -0800 From: Duff Johnson Organization: Document Solutions, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Extracting Total Number of Pages from a PDF File References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 John Walker wrote: > Iam searching for a way to extract the total number of pages and the > filename from several thousand PDF files without opening individual files. > > There was a similar request back on February 3 titled "Viewing". I am not > sure this was answered. > > Any help would save my Index finger from Repetitive Strain Injury. > > Hope there is a solution. John: If you Catalog your PDF collection, you'll find that the application generates a log file containing (a) the name of each PDF file indexed, (b) the total number of files, and (c) the total number of pages in the collection. We use this little kludge all the time to get the "final" number of deliverable pages for billing purposes. Hope this helps. -- regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1755 Broadway, Suite 520, Oakland, CA 94612 Phone: (510) 986-0250 Fax: (510) 986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com http://www.document-solutions.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Mar-1998 19:54:26-GMT,2626;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22702 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:54:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA18919; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 13:47:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 15 Mar 1998 13:45:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA18839; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 13:45:24 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 14:17:57 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: tango Subject: [PDF] newbie questions Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi All, This probably is a flogged horse but... * If there is a FAQ or message archive for this List, can someone please give me the pointers. The search engines did not come up with anything useful. Now for the real questions: * When I distill a quark doc I find that all the colors have been converted to 4/c process. I'm using PS Printer 8.3.1 and the Distiller PPD. The "paper" setup is "screen", and the document is intended to be viewed only on screen. Is there a way to keep it RGB? I have no fear of editing the PPD, but I'm not fluent in postcript. And I'm not even sure that the solution is within that file, though I certainly have not seen any dialogs or checkboxes anywhere else for this. (Yes, all the colors in Quark ARE set to RGB with process check box off!). * I would like to embed some kind of invisible subscriber ID in the document to discourage piracy. To the best of my knowledge Acrobat does not have this capability. Has anyone tried this? If I embed the code into the postscript as a %comment prior to distilling, will distiller just ignore it? Is there a place in the .pdf file that a few bytes can be modified without making the document corrupt and still keep the added text invisible? I'm using Distiller v.1 on a mac. The boss won't spring for an update. If v.3 has the solution to both of the above problems she may change her tune... Thanks in advance for any suggestions or comments. HAL +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Mar-1998 22:33:39-GMT,2775;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24834 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 15:33:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA23043; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 16:05:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 15 Mar 1998 16:01:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22921; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 16:01:55 -0600 Message-ID: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA2713024C@MARS> From: "Schiff, Kenny" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" , "'acrobat@blueworld.com'" Subject: [PDF] Off-the-shelf IIS Compat Search/Catalog PDF solution? Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 15:58:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I've asked this question a few different ways before, but haven't in a while, so perhaps someone will chime in. We run an Extranet on an NT box running IIS, and need a good way of serving out a whole collection of files, a significant portion of which are PDFs. These are organized in folders with different permissions on each folder. Per NT user account/password, users can gete to different folders. I want a means of cataloging and databasing my file information (currently in an Access database), and then allowing our private viewers to browse the catalog (name of file, description, category). All of this info is typically in the PDF document properties. It would be great if this could happen dynamically. We add new files to a folder, the system scans. I want to be able to search the whole site, but also want to keep the browing of the catalog possible, without having to handwrite the HTML pages (which we might do). It would be also nice, if the site searching somehow paid attention to our folder permission structure. Is the IFilter/Index server option reasonable? From what I can tell, people have had mixed results. I'm still open to this though. Someone mentioned Cold Fusion/Verity Search 97, if this is viable I would consider going down that road, but am not excited about a real expensive solution, or one that's overly complex in implementation. any help here would be appreciated... +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Mar-1998 22:35:42-GMT,2825;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24865 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 15:35:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA23278; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 16:13:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 15 Mar 1998 16:11:02 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA23188; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 16:11:00 -0600 Message-Id: <199803152211.OAA16103@db.emuni.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "David M. Davisson" Organization: Pacific Financial Printing To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 14:11:37 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF File Sizes In-reply-to: <350C15CF.BE0FB262@glyphica.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On 15 Mar 98 at 9:54, D. Paknad wrote: > Have you compared your large files to a more lean file, then > asked users about their experience? Actually we are just experimenting to see if we can find a failure point. >From a production standpoint making one pdf consolidates a lot of processes. > Our clients certainly do > complain about files you describe on lower-power PCs > and Macs.... particularly if they know what performance > MIGHT be. Have you asked customers (rather than familiar > users) to assess this performance? This is exactly what I am worried about. Most of our customers are Win95 based. But we have found customers with old upgraded hardware out there, especially older CD-ROMs that can't read CD-R. My guess is that about 7% or our customers have older PCs. > The other point for small files size is that they can be > ported to and delivered on the web.... larger files > clog pipes. Lots of folks think of dual-purpose content > these days; so if you go for the large files, they'll pay to > do it once cheap and slow and then a second time to get it > Web-ready.... a poor value. I agree. This is for a CD-ROM application only. I would never consider doing this for the web. ---------- David M. Davisson Vice President Technology and Information Systems Pacific Financial Printing 4020 Campbell Avenue Menlo Park, CA 94025 (650) 328-1500 davisson@pfp.net +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Mar-1998 22:46:02-GMT,3073;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24998 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 15:46:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA23564; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 16:23:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 15 Mar 1998 16:20:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA23479; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 16:20:38 -0600 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E016A3E@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Extracting Total Number of Pages from a PDF File Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:19:39 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 John, You could quite easily write a VB code to write an automated solution to this problem. This code could be placed in any VBA enabled product, for example, Office 97. You could also 'wrap' this code up in a small VB app. To get you started refer to the example code for "Print all the pages of PDFs in a folder" on the RTS website [http://www.roundtable.com.au and click on plugins, then click on code cuts in the left frame.] This code could easily be modified to write the total pages and filename to a text file. The Acrobat SDK contains an IAC reference manual which contains the documentation required. If you are not familiar with VBA and would require assistance then let me know. I'll try and give you some pointers. regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions http://www.roundtable.com.au > -----Original Message----- > From: jwalker@c-telmedia.com [SMTP:jwalker@c-telmedia.com] > Sent: Monday, March 16, 1998 3:52 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Extracting Total Number of Pages from a PDF File > > > Dear All, > > Iam searching for a way to extract the total number of pages and the > filename from several thousand PDF files without opening individual > files. > > There was a similar request back on February 3 titled "Viewing". I am > not > sure this was answered. > > Any help would save my Index finger from Repetitive Strain Injury. > > Hope there is a solution. > > > John > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Mar-1998 23:00:29-GMT,4736;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA25183 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 16:00:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA23975; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 16:35:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 15 Mar 1998 16:32:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA23895; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 16:32:46 -0600 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E016A3F@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] newbie questions Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:31:47 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 HAL, Here are some comments pertaining to your first question. Hopefully these pointers will assist you in your queries. At present there is no up-to-date FAQ [that I know of]. We have undertaken the production of an FAQ inconjunction with others see belo. 1. We [in conjunction with others - more to follow] will produce a generalised FAQ - concentrating on application issues and questions pertaining to its implementation in different scenarios. 2. This FAQ will be based upon the considerable efforts of previous FAQs maintainers - such as Brian Sobus 3. This effort will be in conjunction with a number of other groups / individuals - harnessing the knowledge of groups such as this one to give it broad and accurate content. 4. The FAQ will be mirrored across a number of sites [mirrored meaning identical copies] 5. A mechanism will be instituted to allow updates / changes of the FAQ. Questions can be lodged at our website http://www.roundtable.com.au - click on plugins, and then click "Acrobat FAQ" You may also like to browse our list of PDFHotLinks - http://www.roundtable.com.au/fr_hotlink.htm these links go to many of the sites that will show you how PDF can be used. Check the Acrobuddies website for a click list of users who will answer your questions http://www.mari.net/~dane/acrobuds.htm regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions - add your PDFHotLink today http://www.roundtable.com.au/ > -----Original Message----- > From: tango [SMTP:tango@accessv.com] > Sent: Monday, March 16, 1998 5:18 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] newbie questions > > > Hi All, > > This probably is a flogged horse but... > > * If there is a FAQ or message archive for this List, can someone > please > give me the pointers. The search engines did not come up with anything > useful. > > Now for the real questions: > > * When I distill a quark doc I find that all the colors have been > converted > to 4/c process. I'm using PS Printer 8.3.1 and the Distiller PPD. The > "paper" setup is "screen", and the document is intended to be viewed > only > on screen. Is there a way to keep it RGB? I have no fear of editing > the > PPD, but I'm not fluent in postcript. And I'm not even sure that the > solution is within that file, though I certainly have not seen any > dialogs > or checkboxes anywhere else for this. (Yes, all the colors in Quark > ARE set > to RGB with process check box off!). > > * I would like to embed some kind of invisible subscriber ID in the > document to discourage piracy. To the best of my knowledge Acrobat > does > not have this capability. Has anyone tried this? If I embed the code > into > the postscript as a %comment prior to distilling, will distiller just > ignore it? Is there a place in the .pdf file that a few bytes can be > modified without making the document corrupt and still keep the added > text > invisible? > > I'm using Distiller v.1 on a mac. The boss won't spring for an update. > If > v.3 has the solution to both of the above problems she may change her > tune... > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions or comments. > > HAL > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 15-Mar-1998 23:01:52-GMT,4713;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA25203 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 16:01:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA24128; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 16:38:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 15 Mar 1998 16:36:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA24025; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 16:36:00 -0600 Message-ID: <007701bcfd8d$424e3910$0da30118@cx866816-a.alsv1.occa.home.com> From: "Stephen M. Aylor" To: , Subject: Re: [PDF] Off-the-shelf IIS Compat Search/Catalog PDF solution? Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 04:41:19 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Kenny, I was the one who mentioned the Cold Fusion/Verity approach - I think.... 1. Its not real complex 2. The CF/Verity solution would also allow you to have verity INDEX a collection of text fields in your Access/SQL server database tables and columns. (since you already have a ton of it there......) 3. The only grey area I have on the Verity index server is how well it actually does pdf. Meaning what info beside the text in the document do you get. It would be extremely trick if, Verity could pass the file location, size, file name info as variables to Cold Fusion server, and then a CF template could be designed to self execute (every 10 minutes..) to add the data straightinto your database.....(It could happen! x<[;)....) I beleive similar issues plague verity/pdf that are troublesome with pdf on IIS/MS Index server. And if memory serves..... it was a problem with Adobe's Plug-In for the index engine's....? 4. as far as expense goes CF costs $495 for the ver that connects to workgroup level db's Access, Foxpro Dbase et al.... and $995 for MS SQL Server, ORacle, Informix etc.... I do some more checking with my CF guru's to see about their experiences. All the best, Steve -----Original Message----- From: Schiff, Kenny To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' ; 'acrobat@blueworld.com' Date: Sunday, March 15, 1998 2:06 PM Subject: [PDF] Off-the-shelf IIS Compat Search/Catalog PDF solution? > >I've asked this question a few different ways before, but haven't in a >while, so perhaps someone will chime in. We run an Extranet on an NT box >running IIS, and need a good way of serving out a whole collection of >files, a significant portion of which are PDFs. These are organized in >folders with different permissions on each folder. Per NT user >account/password, users can gete to different folders. > >I want a means of cataloging and databasing my file information >(currently in an Access database), and then allowing our private viewers >to browse the catalog (name of file, description, category). All of this >info is typically in the PDF document properties. It would be great if >this could happen dynamically. We add new files to a folder, the system >scans. > >I want to be able to search the whole site, but also want to keep the >browing of the catalog possible, without having to handwrite the HTML >pages (which we might do). It would be also nice, if the site searching >somehow paid attention to our folder permission structure. > >Is the IFilter/Index server option reasonable? From what I can tell, >people have had mixed results. I'm still open to this though. > >Someone mentioned Cold Fusion/Verity Search 97, if this is viable I >would consider going down that road, but am not excited about a real >expensive solution, or one that's overly complex in implementation. > >any help here would be appreciated... >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Mar-1998 1:36:21-GMT,6605;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA28167 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 18:36:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA29248; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 19:17:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 15 Mar 1998 19:14:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA29073; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 19:14:27 -0600 Message-ID: <000801bcfda3$65b37e90$0da30118@cx866816-a.alsv1.occa.home.com> From: "Stephen M. Aylor" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Off-the-shelf IIS Compat Search/Catalog PDF solution? Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 07:19:48 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 MS Site server Index server sample application..... http://www.microsoft.com/intranet/applications/msisc/DocLib/abstract.htm Executive Summary The Document Library application creates a shared, secure, indexed, and searchable store for user documents. This Knowledge Management application administers file collections and makes them readily available to users by way of an intranet. Description The Document Library application is a file repository that manages files for users of an intranet. Finding documents is easy using the built-in navigation and full-text search capabilities of the application. Using various document views and simple-to-use query forms, you can find a file in seconds. Document summary information describes file contents and provides other data, such as author and file size, to help you identify the file you want. You can view a document, download a read-only copy of the file, or check out the original for editing and updates, right from your browser. Check-in/check-out functionality of Microsoft Visual SourceSafe™ protects the integrity of Document Library files by issuing read-only copies for viewing. If you want to edit a file stored in the repository, you can check out the file. This furnishes you a read-write copy of the file to which you can make your revisions, and ensures that version control is maintained. The Document Library application also enables users of Web browsers without ActiveX™ support to view documents. These browsers can download a read-only copy of library files from an Internet Information Server mirror site. Features Secure file upload/download Microsoft Internet Information Server with Microsoft FrontPage™ Server Extensions provide support for browser-based access to secure upload/download, check-in/check-out functionality. SQL-based library catalog cards Each document checked into a library has an associated Catalog Card containing file statistics such as author, title, description, date modified, and check-in/check-out details. The Catalog Card summary information is automatically extracted from Microsoft Office documents, or be entered online for any file type when it is added to the library, and is stored in Microsoft SQL Server™ tables. Viewing files online Publishing information over an intranet is as easy as adding a file to the collection. Client systems running a file's native application can take advantage of Microsoft ActiveX™ edit-in-place functionality and view a file with any standard Web browser. By using the Microsoft Office Web server extensions, even users without the file's associated application can convert .doc and .xls files to HTML, interpretable by the Web browser. Multi-format storage capacity Library files are not limited to word processing documents and spreadsheets. The repository can house any file that can be stored on an NT file system. Customization wizard Built-in themes and a customization wizard help you restyle your document libraries instantly. You can include such elements as your company logo as the application icon, apply themes to set the tone of your intranet, and so on. -----Original Message----- From: Schiff, Kenny To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' ; 'acrobat@blueworld.com' Date: Sunday, March 15, 1998 2:06 PM Subject: [PDF] Off-the-shelf IIS Compat Search/Catalog PDF solution? > >I've asked this question a few different ways before, but haven't in a >while, so perhaps someone will chime in. We run an Extranet on an NT box >running IIS, and need a good way of serving out a whole collection of >files, a significant portion of which are PDFs. These are organized in >folders with different permissions on each folder. Per NT user >account/password, users can gete to different folders. > >I want a means of cataloging and databasing my file information >(currently in an Access database), and then allowing our private viewers >to browse the catalog (name of file, description, category). All of this >info is typically in the PDF document properties. It would be great if >this could happen dynamically. We add new files to a folder, the system >scans. > >I want to be able to search the whole site, but also want to keep the >browing of the catalog possible, without having to handwrite the HTML >pages (which we might do). It would be also nice, if the site searching >somehow paid attention to our folder permission structure. > >Is the IFilter/Index server option reasonable? From what I can tell, >people have had mixed results. I'm still open to this though. > >Someone mentioned Cold Fusion/Verity Search 97, if this is viable I >would consider going down that road, but am not excited about a real >expensive solution, or one that's overly complex in implementation. > >any help here would be appreciated... >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Mar-1998 11:35:02-GMT,3312;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA10120 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 04:35:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA12466; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 04:27:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Mar 1998 04:24:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA12354; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 04:24:20 -0600 Message-ID: <91D163703F28D11186FC00A024890A8B070EDD@CADCO_EXS> From: "John O'Donovan" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] PDF Annotations Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:22:09 -0000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="---- =_NextPart_001_01BD50C5.61B9FC40" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------ =_NextPart_001_01BD50C5.61B9FC40 Content-Type: text/plain Hiya all, I was just wondering whether or not there was a plug-in which allows the user to add annotations / comments which are similar to those used in Word 97. Or any improvement on the stickies in Echange. Thanks in advance, john Emancipate yourself from inter-slavery, None but ourselves can free our minds, Have no fear for atomic energy, Cos none of them can stop the time - B. Marley ------ =_NextPart_001_01BD50C5.61B9FC40 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hiya all,
        I was = just wondering whether or not there was a plug-in which allows the user = to add annotations / comments which are similar to those used in Word = 97. Or any improvement on the stickies in Echange.


Thanks in advance,

john

Emancipate yourself from = inter-slavery,
None but ourselves can free = our minds,
Have no fear for atomic = energy,
Cos none of them can stop the = time

        =         - B. Marley

------ =_NextPart_001_01BD50C5.61B9FC40-- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Mar-1998 14:55:42-GMT,2762;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14032 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 07:55:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA23167; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:54:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:51:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22948; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:51:46 -0600 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 20:16:04 +0000 (WAT) From: Vijo Cherian To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDFdev] PDF with gs and some PDF files failing to open in acroread,pdf2ps Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am in serious trouble and I want urgent help...... I got some datasheets of Intel and National Semiconductors which were in pdf format.Only one of them(from intel) opened.Others gave an error in acroread (for Linux) which said"error in file... repairing.." but it could not repair any of them. 3.0 is the version of acrobat reader used under Linux 2.0.0 What can be wrong? Is it newer version of acribat used to prepare the file? Otherwise will the OS matter? .....I mean prepared in Win ..etc. I am new to pdf files. Those files are really very important for me (my final year project work) can you help me with it> I downloaded Alladin's ghostscript and installed it Installation went fine but Only the first page of the document is being shown by gs...(It did the same with the pdf file which opened in acroread and even the ps files...) can you help me with what to do? I tried to use pdf2ps it could convert exactly those files which opened in acroread... I am new to PDF.. TIA vijo cherian ****************************_/ _/ Vijo Cherian vijo@research.svrec.ernet.in _/ _/ Final year undergraduate student, www.svrec.ernet.in/~vijo _/ _/ Computer Engineering, _/ _/ SVREC,Surat _/ India ************************************** +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDFdev is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Mar-1998 15:24:43-GMT,2757;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA14738 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:24:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA23117; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:53:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:51:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22935; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:51:45 -0600 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 20:16:04 +0000 (WAT) From: Vijo Cherian To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF with gs and some PDF files failing to open in acroread,pdf2ps Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am in serious trouble and I want urgent help...... I got some datasheets of Intel and National Semiconductors which were in pdf format.Only one of them(from intel) opened.Others gave an error in acroread (for Linux) which said"error in file... repairing.." but it could not repair any of them. 3.0 is the version of acrobat reader used under Linux 2.0.0 What can be wrong? Is it newer version of acribat used to prepare the file? Otherwise will the OS matter? .....I mean prepared in Win ..etc. I am new to pdf files. Those files are really very important for me (my final year project work) can you help me with it> I downloaded Alladin's ghostscript and installed it Installation went fine but Only the first page of the document is being shown by gs...(It did the same with the pdf file which opened in acroread and even the ps files...) can you help me with what to do? I tried to use pdf2ps it could convert exactly those files which opened in acroread... I am new to PDF.. TIA vijo cherian ****************************_/ _/ Vijo Cherian vijo@research.svrec.ernet.in _/ _/ Final year undergraduate student, www.svrec.ernet.in/~vijo _/ _/ Computer Engineering, _/ _/ SVREC,Surat _/ India ************************************** +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Mar-1998 16:09:55-GMT,3466;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15881 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:09:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA25665; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:50:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:47:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA25506; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:47:28 -0600 Message-ID: <350D4A5C.8B9BF697@saronix.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 07:50:52 -0800 From: "Endre (Andy) J. Kantor" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF with gs and some PDF files failing to open in acroread,pdf2ps References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am also new to PDFs, but here is what I think. If Intel's worked but National Semi's didn't, the problem may have come from NS's side. Let them know of the problem. Since your project is so urgent, you should go back to N Semi and have the data sheets sent to you via other ways. Andy > I am in serious trouble and I want urgent help...... > I got some datasheets of Intel and National Semiconductors which were > in pdf format.Only one of them(from intel) opened.Others gave an error in > acroread (for Linux) which said"error in file... repairing.." > but it could not repair any of them. > 3.0 is the version of acrobat reader used under Linux 2.0.0 > What can be wrong? Is it newer version of acribat used to prepare > the file? > Otherwise will the OS matter? .....I mean prepared in Win ..etc. > I am new to pdf files. > Those files are really very important for me (my final year project work) > can you help me with it> > I downloaded Alladin's ghostscript and installed it > Installation went fine but Only the first page of the document is being > shown by gs...(It did the same with the pdf file which opened in > acroread and even the ps files...) > can you help me with what to do? > I tried to use pdf2ps it could convert exactly those files which opened in > acroread... > I am new to PDF.. > > TIA > vijo cherian > > ****************************_/ _/ Vijo Cherian > vijo@research.svrec.ernet.in _/ _/ Final year undergraduate student, > www.svrec.ernet.in/~vijo _/ _/ Computer Engineering, > _/ _/ SVREC,Surat > _/ India > ************************************** > > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Mar-1998 18:02:11-GMT,3110;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA19092 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:02:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA29513; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:16:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:12:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA29359; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:12:38 -0600 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:13:19 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Boeri To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Joliet-Search bug? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi all, I have encountered what I am quite certain is a bug in Adobe Acrobat's 3.01 Search plug-in, and I'd like to know if anyone else has seen this bug and if you can help me work around it. I have a collection of several hundred PDF files named using Microsoft's Joliet standard. I can index this collection successfully *AND* --this is the key point-- search this collection when it is on a hard drive or ZIP. If I burn a CD-R with this collection (using the Joliet --not ISO9660-- standard), I can search and see two particular files on a result list, but when I try to view them from the search result list I receive the error: "This document could not be found: it has either been moved, deleted, or you don't have permission to view it." I *can* open the two offending files on the CD-R (if I do not use the search results list). I *can* also search and view the two offending files from the search results list if those files are on hard drive media (including ZIP). In fact, I can even drag-and-drop the collection from the CD-R onto a hard drive and search/find everything just fine. Just spent quite a while on the Adobe Customer First line and although the rep was very polite and listened well, he did not know what Joliet was and could not help. He did suggest one test that I have run (and which --IMHO-- points to Acrobat search): I renamed the two troublesome files back to 8.3 filenaming standards, and I can search them (and other non-8.3 filenames) just fine on CD-R. The problem seems to be these two particular files. However, I don't like this solution since it is not possible to search-and-test every file name in a large collection on CD-ROM. And there seems to be absolutely no guidelines (or support) for Joliet other than to say "don't do it if it gives you problems." Thanks in advance all! -Bob Boeri bboeri@world.std.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Mar-1998 19:35:17-GMT,1599;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21633 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:35:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA01273; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:57:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:53:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA01032; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:53:56 -0600 Message-ID: From: Robert Porter To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:57:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Okay, I'm doing a plain little this.submitForm("page.asp#FDF") call, and I am getting a Syntax error when I do it in Netscape Nav 4.04, but it works fine in IE 4.01. I know the JavaScript functionality is working because my Alert that asks "Are you sure?" works fine. Any clues/hints? robert porter applications developer renaissance interactive +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Mar-1998 21:33:01-GMT,1979;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA24928 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:33:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA07618; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:03:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:02:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07555; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:02:22 -0600 Message-ID: <6B5C8C4247FCCF1189AF0080D88002AA013DED26@hrserv2> From: "Perry, Robert" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] RE: Batch Thumbnails Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:02:26 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 If you know Visual Basic you can create a simple program that opens each PDF file in a specified directory and uses the Sendkeys command to send the keystrokes that create thumbnails. Primitive, but effective. ---------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:39:45 -0600 From: Paul Schulte Subject: [PDF] Batch creation of thumbnails I believe this topic has been discussed before. I am pretty sure there are several plug ins to do this. That's not the current preference. Other than plug ins, what other options are there? Can one batch this from a Unix command line? Any and all responses will be greatly appreciated. Paul K. Schulte Medtronic, Inc. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Mar-1998 21:48:04-GMT,1525;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25335 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:48:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA08842; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:29:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:26:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA08706; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:26:44 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:23:01 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Beth Fischi Subject: [PDF] Spellcheck for Reader? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Anybody know if there is a spellchecking plug-in for Reader? TIA...Beth : ) _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Beth Fischi Technical Writer Texas Animal Health Commission Voice: 1-800-550-8242 x733 Fax: (512) 719-0729 E-mail: bethf@tahc.state.tx.us http://www.tahc.state.tx.us _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Mar-1998 20:22:13-GMT,2636;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22950 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:22:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA03963; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:52:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:50:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03893; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:50:44 -0600 Message-ID: <613BC3010BB6D111B607006097925E3C225CB1@cas02.cas-inc.com> From: "Saccuzzo, Robin" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Extracting Total Number of Pages from a PDF File Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:53:18 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have an excel macro that will do this. It is an updated version of the macro that I previously wrote that will extract the DocumentInfo information. The new version includes page count total and whether the file is displayed in page mode, page+thumbnail mode or page+bookmark mode. For those of you that would like the file please email me with "Excel Macro" in the subject line. Best, Robin Saccuzzo CAS, Inc. Weapon Systems Analysis -----Original Message----- From: jwalker@c-telmedia.com [SMTP:jwalker@c-telmedia.com] Sent: Sunday, March 15, 1998 11:52 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Extracting Total Number of Pages from a PDF File Dear All, Iam searching for a way to extract the total number of pages and the filename from several thousand PDF files without opening individual files. There was a similar request back on February 3 titled "Viewing". I am not sure this was answered. Any help would save my Index finger from Repetitive Strain Injury. Hope there is a solution. John +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +----------------------------------------------------------------------- -+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Mar-1998 20:40:23-GMT,2275;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23424 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:40:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA05641; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:28:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:26:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA05559; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:26:31 -0600 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <882565C9.00700B01.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:24:50 -0800 Subject: [PDF] How fast should it be? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm sorry to send this to this PDF list - but my address for the Capture list is evidently wrong. On Friday we selected a folder of files to be captured. When we came back this morning, 1500 pages had been captured. This seems slow to me, but I'd like to know if there is a "standard" by which we can measure the efficiency of our equipment and software. We also have experienced losing pages during the Capture process. Is there something we can do to avoid this - it's very time consuming opening each document and checking page count, and then going through page-by-page to discover which pages are missing! These particular files were captured using: P120 w/6 gig hard drive, >80 MEG ram. Capture 2.0 Output format: Graphic w/hidden text Nothing else was running on the PC, however our files are stored in a network directory which may have had a back-up run during the weekend. We're considering moving the files to our hard drive for the capture process - Do you think that would help? Any information will be appreciated. Thanks, Sue +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Mar-1998 22:32:55-GMT,4311;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA26575 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:32:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA09947; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:49:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:48:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA09900; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:48:26 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD50F0.3E73EE00@hti185.infohwy.com> From: Ron Culp To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Distller for NT Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:28:57 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD50F0.3E7B8F20" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD50F0.3E7B8F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can someone please help me locate a general PS driver for NT? I am = running 4.0 service pack 3, and would rather use the Distiller for Word = & PowerPOint than PDFWriter.=20 I cannot find a generic PS driver on my NT program disk. Any help would be greatly appreciated. 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When I print to this printer, I just point the output file to the IN folder of a Distiller-watched folder set. Works great! It even handles color, even though the HP 4 is only a B&W device. I'm sure you can get similar results with almost any other PS printer. I chose HP only because the driver is widely-used, and therefore less likely to have bugs. Tom Thiersch At 03:28 PM 3/16/98 -0600, you wrote: >Can someone please help me locate a general PS driver for NT? I am running 4.0 service pack 3, and would rather use the Distiller for Word & PowerPOint than PDFWriter. > >I cannot find a generic PS driver on my NT program disk. > >Any help would be greatly appreciated. > >Thanks in advance, > >Ron > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Mar-1998 22:35:42-GMT,1594;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA26659 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:35:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA10828; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:07:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:05:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA10736; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:05:56 -0600 From: ME Woolsey Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:06:25 EST To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [PDF] linking CAD drawings Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 52 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am attempting to link a mechanical drawing in a PDF to a DWG file in such a way that the link executes a "Save as" dialog box. I need to be able to save the DWG to {user-specified name}.dwg. Anybody seen or heard of an executable or a plug-in that can do this? Mike Woolsey Integrated Marketing Technologies, Inc. Digital Publications +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Mar-1998 23:22:35-GMT,1393;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA28013 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:22:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA12519; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:47:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:45:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12423; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:45:50 -0600 From: Sergio_Guevara@Mitel.COM X-Lotus-FromDomain: MITEL To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852565C9.007D0BD5.00@kanmta01.software.mitel.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:46:54 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Distller for NT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 From: Sergio Guevara@MITEL on 03/16/98 05:46 PM Hi Ron: Adobe techsupport suggested that I use APPLE LASERWRITER PRO 810. So far, so good. Best, Sergio : )> +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 16-Mar-1998 23:25:13-GMT,2430;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA28072 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:25:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA13626; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:11:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:10:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA13570; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:10:10 -0600 Message-ID: <002401bd5131$0d35d100$8103a8c0@olympus.pr.mcs.net> From: "Jeremy Treister" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Distller for NT Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:12:24 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 For Distiller, the proper PS driver for NT 4 is "Tektronix Phaser 550J 1200 DPI". Once you install the driver from the NT4 CD, you can rename the printer something like "PS_FILE" In my experience, there are some types of files that print perfectly well with PDFWriter or Distiller Assistant. As far as user involvement goes, the easiest to use is PDFWriter, then Distiller Assistant, then PS file. Jeremy Treister Sensorium Software, Inc. Visual Business Management e jtreister@SensoriumSoftware.com v 312.786.1330.515 f 312.786.1324 -----Original Message----- From: Ron Culp To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Date: Monday, March 16, 1998 3:58 PM Subject: [PDF] Distller for NT Can someone please help me locate a general PS driver for NT? I am running 4.0 service pack 3, and would rather use the Distiller for Word & PowerPOint than PDFWriter. I cannot find a generic PS driver on my NT program disk. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Ron +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Mar-1998 0:42:53-GMT,3563;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00066 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:42:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA15188; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:55:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:50:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA15047; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:50:36 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980316234957.0092ff1c@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:49:57 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Distller for NT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 There are any number of perfectly fine PS printer drivers (Tektronix, HP, Apple, whatever) that can be used for creating Distiller input -- the key is to choose one that has the features you need and is as reliable as possible. As for DistAsst, I agree that it's easy to use (it's the default printer on some of my NT systems), but it doesn't always give you the degree of control that you need. And remember, you have to have a PS printer "installed" (defined to NT, that is) on your system *before* you attempt to install DistAsst -- otherwise, the DistAsst installation will fail. PDFWriter is even more limited in its capabilities, particularly when it comes to graphics; in fact, since DistAsst is just as easy to use, I never use PDFWriter any more. Why take a chance on using an inferior tool, when a better one that's just as easy to use is at-hand? Tom Thiersch At 05:12 PM 3/16/98 -0600, you wrote: > >For Distiller, the proper PS driver for NT 4 is "Tektronix Phaser 550J 1200 >DPI". Once you install the driver from the NT4 CD, you can rename the >printer something like "PS_FILE" > >In my experience, there are some types of files that print perfectly well >with PDFWriter or Distiller Assistant. As far as user involvement goes, the >easiest to use is PDFWriter, then Distiller Assistant, then PS file. > >Jeremy Treister > Sensorium Software, Inc. > Visual Business Management >e jtreister@SensoriumSoftware.com > v 312.786.1330.515 > f 312.786.1324 >-----Original Message----- >From: Ron Culp >To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' >Date: Monday, March 16, 1998 3:58 PM >Subject: [PDF] Distller for NT > > >Can someone please help me locate a general PS driver for NT? I am running >4.0 service pack 3, and would rather use the Distiller for Word & PowerPOint >than PDFWriter. > >I cannot find a generic PS driver on my NT program disk. > >Any help would be greatly appreciated. > >Thanks in advance, > >Ron > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Mar-1998 5:43:05-GMT,3149;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA06290 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:43:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA26670; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:17:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:15:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA26587; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:15:07 -0600 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:39:48 +0000 (WAT) From: Vijo Cherian To: "Richard L. Sites" cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: PDF trouble In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19980316094051.00a50590@mail-345> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanx for the long mail....and sorry for the trouble On Mon, 16 Mar 1998, Richard L. Sites wrote: > What you describe is often a symptom of a PDF file getting corrupted when > moved electronically via a Web browser or e-mail. Specifically, it is > posssible that some piece of transport software has changed all > characters to pairs of characters. This most often happens when your > browser or e-mail software has not properly registered the PDF mime type > and ends up treating a PDF file as text instead of binary. This is one of the first things I suspected.I used a utility called d2u which converts dos formats(cr-lf) to unix formats....It was of no use as it deleted most of the file( I use UNIX and I backup...so it was no problem).And I have a reason to tell you why this is not the error. I got the same file uuencoded from the site... and uudecoded file gave me the same problem.I think uuencoded files will not be corrupted this way. > followed by a byte offset. St this byte offset fro mthe front of the file > shold be the word "xref". If the actual "xref" is somewhat later in the > file, then something expanded the file. I did not understand that properly...but what about uuencoded files in this case? > If this doesn't work, I'd be happy to look at the file. /dick Thanx a lot for the offer... I will send you the files (uuencoded???) TIA vijo cherian ****************************_/ _/ Vijo Cherian vijo@research.svrec.ernet.in _/ _/ Final year undergraduate student, www.svrec.ernet.in/~vijo _/ _/ Computer Engineering, _/ _/ SVREC,Surat _/ India ************************************** +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Mar-1998 8:38:01-GMT,1915;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA09822 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 01:38:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA31569; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 02:17:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 02:15:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA31515; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 02:15:28 -0600 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:38:52 +0000 (WAT) From: Vijo Cherian To: "Endre (Andy) J. Kantor" cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF with gs and some PDF files failing to open in acroread,pdf2ps In-Reply-To: <350D4A5C.8B9BF697@saronix.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Mon, 16 Mar 1998, Endre (Andy) J. Kantor wrote: > > I am also new to PDFs, but here is what I think. If Intel's worked but > National Semi's didn't, the problem may have come from NS's side. Let them > know of the problem. Not exactly. Only one of the intel's documents opened.... I tried to contace NS... They didnot respond > Since your project is so urgent, you should go back to N Semi and have the > data sheets sent to you via other ways. Actually I tried all possible methods of downloading the same file(s) vijo +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Mar-1998 14:56:33-GMT,4112;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA16951 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 07:56:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA09434; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:28:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:24:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09255; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:24:43 -0600 Message-ID: <350E8992.7F64F937@lsijax.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:32:50 -0500 From: "Tracie K. DeVoe" Organization: Logistic Services International X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] How fast should it be? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <882565C9.00700B01.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Sue, Even for a P120, it seems slow. I'm running on a Pentium 200 Pro with 64 MB ram and <2 G hard drive but I generally do 1700 pages a night (from start of batch job at 4:00 pm to start of work next day at 6:30 am). I'm also using Capture 2.0 but on the plus side, the files reside on my hard drive and I do a capture on a page-by-page basis. I'm doing the captures using an OLE batch program that I wrote in Visual Basic. Plus, if a page bombs, I can easily see by checking which 'tifs' have corresponding 'pdfs' etc. to find the offending page. I'm willing to share the program but it was thrown together very hastily here and is setup for our organization but, if it would help just contact me offline (this program then goes through and puts all the single-page pdfs into one main 'manual.pdf' per directory using the Exchange OLE). I would definitely put the folder on your hard drive for processing and not try and back-up the folder at the same time. Hope this helps. Tracie DeVoe +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Tracie DeVoe Logistic Services International 1851 Ehringhaus St. #101 Elizabeth City, NC 27909 PH#: (919) 335-6239 FAX: (919) 335-6463 email: tdevoe@lsijax.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ sgililland@nexstar.com wrote: > I'm sorry to send this to this PDF list - but my address for > the Capture > list is evidently wrong. > > On Friday we selected a folder of files to be captured. When > we came back > this morning, 1500 pages had been captured. This seems slow to > me, but I'd > like to know if there is a "standard" by which we can measure > the > efficiency of our equipment and software. We also have > experienced losing > pages during the Capture process. Is there something we can do > to avoid > this - it's very time consuming opening each document and > checking page > count, and then going through page-by-page to discover which > pages are > missing! > > These particular files were captured using: > > P120 w/6 gig hard drive, >80 MEG ram. > Capture 2.0 > Output format: Graphic w/hidden text > Nothing else was running on the PC, however our files are > stored in a > network directory which may have had a back-up run during the > weekend. > We're considering moving the files to our hard drive for the > capture > process - Do you think that would help? > > Any information will be appreciated. > > Thanks, Sue > > +---------- > -------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF > Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Mar-1998 16:28:55-GMT,1719;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19429 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:28:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA11677; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:48:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:46:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA11531; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:46:30 -0600 Message-Id: <199803171544.LAA08563@mail.impgroup.com> From: "Mark Alberstat" To: Subject: [PDF] Wierd Fonts Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:52:55 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello All, I am having trouble with fonts. I am using the capture plug-in to capture pages and then going over them with the touch-up tool. When I look at the fonts for some of the text I am getting crazy fonts such as KFJBIA+ARIALNARROW-BOLD... What is going on? Why isn't all the text going into just plain ol' Arial? Please help, Frustrated with Fonts, mark.alberstat@impgroup.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Mar-1998 16:50:44-GMT,3783;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20010 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:50:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA13533; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:26:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:22:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA13329; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:22:36 -0600 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <882565CA.0059AE5F.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:20:56 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: PDF trouble Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This was in response to an error "This is not - or cannot fine - a PDF file" similar to one that I've seen. The files sent back and forth to Maarten come to mind! I think the binary thing we did could be important. Sue Vijo Cherian on 03/17/98 02:39:48 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: "Richard L. Sites" cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] Re: PDF trouble Thanx for the long mail....and sorry for the trouble On Mon, 16 Mar 1998, Richard L. Sites wrote: > What you describe is often a symptom of a PDF file getting corrupted when > moved electronically via a Web browser or e-mail. Specifically, it is > posssible that some piece of transport software has changed all > characters to pairs of characters. This most often happens when your > browser or e-mail software has not properly registered the PDF mime type > and ends up treating a PDF file as text instead of binary. This is one of the first things I suspected.I used a utility called d2u which converts dos formats(cr-lf) to unix formats....It was of no use as it deleted most of the file( I use UNIX and I backup...so it was no problem).And I have a reason to tell you why this is not the error. I got the same file uuencoded from the site... and uudecoded file gave me the same problem.I think uuencoded files will not be corrupted this way. > followed by a byte offset. St this byte offset fro mthe front of the file > shold be the word "xref". If the actual "xref" is somewhat later in the > file, then something expanded the file. I did not understand that properly...but what about uuencoded files in this case? > If this doesn't work, I'd be happy to look at the file. /dick Thanx a lot for the offer... I will send you the files (uuencoded???) TIA vijo cherian ****************************_/ _/ Vijo Cherian vijo@research.svrec.ernet.in _/ _/ Final year undergraduate student, www.svrec.ernet.in/~vijo _/ _/ Computer Engineering, _/ _/ SVREC,Surat _/ India ************************************** +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Mar-1998 17:41:54-GMT,4871;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21377 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:41:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA14508; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:44:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:42:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA14351; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:41:57 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD5180.FCA24A80@istk-port308.jps.net> From: Karl Schmidtmann To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF Annotations Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:38:19 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD5180.FCDC4640" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD5180.FCDC4640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John: Ambia has an annotation tool, Re:mark, for Acrobat Exchange on the Mac = and Windows platforms. You can find more information, and an evaluation = copy of the software, on our Web site (www.ambia.com). Karl Schmidtmann Ambia ---------- From: John O'Donovan[SMTP:John.ODonovan@cadco.ie] Sent: Monday, March 16, 1998 2:22 AM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: [PDF] PDF Annotations Hiya all, I was just wondering whether or not there was a plug-in which allows the user to add annotations / comments which are similar to those used in Word 97. Or any improvement on the stickies in Echange. Thanks in advance, john Emancipate yourself from inter-slavery, None but ourselves can free our minds, Have no fear for atomic energy, Cos none of them can stop the time - B. 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Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We do this by distilling PostScript created using the Acrobat Distiller PPD (PostScript printer description file). How is the designer creating the PDFs? >I'm working with a designer who uses QuarkXpress 3.32 on the Mac, with >lots of Illustrator 6.0 drawings inside. We've been using Acrobat as a >means of previewing and sharing the works in progress. The Quark output >via PDF is terrible and often inaccurate. The biggest problem is with >the EPS graphics with clipping paths. The way he's using Acrobat forces >the output to no be properly layered. > >In the early stages of development this is OK, but as we get closer to >sending out to our service bureau/printer, this is no longer workable. > >The odd thing, is that our printer is able to deliver excellent looking >4C PDFs to me. This is obviously a settings issue. Can someone chime in >a give a sense of what we should be looking for on his side to improve >his output? >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Mar-1998 17:45:15-GMT,1991;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21489 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:45:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA16544; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:29:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:24:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA16335; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:24:55 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Teague, Tommy K" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Inaccessible Named Destinations Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:25:28 -0800 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I have created a document with approximately 100 named destinations. > For inexplicable reasons, several of the links are simply not working. > > Upon looking at the PDF file, I have discovered something common about > those entries that do not work. In this file, /Names in /Catalog > points > to /Dests, which in turn points to /Kids. Here /Kids is an array with > two entries. Each entry points to a dictionary with /Limits and > /Names. > All the named destinations in the first dictionary are accessible; not > a > single one of the entries in the second dictionary is accessible. > > TIA for any suggestions how to make all the entries work. > > Tommy Teague > Unisys Corporation > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Mar-1998 19:55:05-GMT,2436;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25167 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:55:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA22161; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:29:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:25:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA21987; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:25:22 -0600 From: eric.jacobson@tfn.com X-Server-Uuid: b0832e76-507b-11d1-9cee-00e0290993bc X-Lotus-FromDomain: THOMSON FINANCIAL SERVICES To: Message-ID: <852565CA.006A8305.00@investext.tfn.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:25:35 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Wierd Fonts MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 1910121A314023-1910121A314024-01 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 The font has been embedded as a subset instead of a complete font. The six-character pseudo-unique identifier followed by a '+' is assumed by Acrobat to indicate a subset font. Eric Jacobson Mark.Alberstat@impgroup.com on 03/17/98 10:52:55 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Eric Jacobson/Investext/TFS) Subject: [PDF] Wierd Fonts Hello All, I am having trouble with fonts. I am using the capture plug-in to capture pages and then going over them with the touch-up tool. When I look at the fonts for some of the text I am getting crazy fonts such as KFJBIA+ARIALNARROW-BOLD... What is going on? Why isn't all the text going into just plain ol' Arial? Please help, Frustrated with Fonts, mark.alberstat@impgroup.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Mar-1998 21:14:23-GMT,2283;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27347 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:14:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA25384; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:47:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:44:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA25207; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:44:19 -0600 Message-Id: <350F5D2D.52A5@igd.fhg.de> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 21:35:42 -0800 From: Moritz Schwarz Organization: Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold [de] (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Wierd Fonts References: <199803171544.LAA08563@mail.impgroup.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 if you have turned on the subset fonts button in distillers preferences (e.g. 35% as default is) acrobat creates fonts for YOU with a name of random access in the beginning (8 caracters i think) followed by the original font name. nothing wiered at all! this is what is supposed to happen when you ckick on the subset button in distiller moritz -- Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics Department Document Imaging (A1) _______________ | | |_|_|_|_| Moritz Schwarz |___|___|_|_|_|_| room: 258 | | |_|_|_|_| mail: Rundeturmstr.6 |___|___|_|_|_|_| 64283 Darmstadt | __ _ | Germany | | | _ | \ | phone: +49 (61 51) 155 585 | | |__| |_/ | fax: +49 (61 51) 155 299 |_______________| e-mail: moritz@igd.fhg.de +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Mar-1998 22:56:05-GMT,1679;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA00201 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:56:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA29828; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:28:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:23:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA29599; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:23:30 -0600 Message-ID: <31759979D5E0D011A5C300A0C95D89CE265118@ISGMS001> From: "Moody, Doug" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Indexes for the web Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:23:23 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I know this has been discussed before, but I lost the thread on it. Does anyone know where from Adobe or elsewhere you can get the info for making PDF indexes searchable by the same search engines used by Yahoo, Altavista, Excite, etc? We want to have not only our intranet HTML pages searchable, but also the PDF files we have out there too! TIA Doug Moody New Breed Corporations dmoody@new-breed.com (336) 218-7535 x43 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Mar-1998 23:02:05-GMT,2578;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00353 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:02:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA30812; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:48:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:46:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA30690; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:46:01 -0600 X-Sender: scoop@lasertechcolor.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01BD50F0.3E73EE00@hti185.infohwy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:46:01 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: scoop@lasertechcolor.com (Shane Cooper) Subject: Re: [PDF] Distller for NT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Since Adobe doesn't have an NT variant of their PS printer, there are alternates that do work. If you hapen to have a HP printer, then the CD that comes with, has a PS Printer Driver. If you don't, I'm not sure how to get Distiller Assisant working. I lucked out as I have 2 HP LaserJet 5Si MX printers and HP has been so kind to include a PS Printer. At 3:28 PM -0600 3/16/98, Ron Culp wrote: >Can someone please help me locate a general PS driver for NT? I am running >4.0 service pack 3, and would rather use the Distiller for Word & >PowerPOint than PDFWriter. > >I cannot find a generic PS driver on my NT program disk. > >Any help would be greatly appreciated. > >Thanks in advance, > >Ron ================================================= Sent from the PowerBook 3400c of: ---------------------------------------- Shane Cooper Laser Tech Color 2010 Westridge Dr Irving, Tx 75038 mailto:scoop@lasertechcolor.com http://www.lasertechcolor.com http://home1.gte.net/jcoop direct: 972.714.4818 fx: 972.714.4000 ---------------------------------------- "There are three kinds of people in this world: Those who make things happen; those who watch things happen; and those that wonder what happens," - Unknown. ================================================= +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Mar-1998 23:41:01-GMT,3826;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01350 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:41:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA32417; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:23:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:21:47 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA32327; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:21:45 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980317232201.00931780@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:22:01 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Distller for NT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 You don't need to own any "real" (physical) PS-capable printers to set up Distiller Assistant. Drivers for a large number of printers of various brands (including most but not all HP printers) are supplied on the NT setup CD-ROM. Just install any one of these that suits your needs; set the Port to "FILE". If there's a particular driver you want that isn't on the NT disc, you can almost always download it from the manufacturer's Support site. The Distiller Assistant installation program doesn't really care *which* PS driver it finds (since it's going to use the Distiller Driver anyway), just as long as there's one there before you start. According to the Acrobat README, the Adobe installer relies on the presence PSCRIPT.DRV, and NT apparently installs PSCRIPT.DRV for any PS printer. Why it couldn't just do the same for DistAsst is a mystery (sigh). Tom Thiersch At 10:46 PM 3/16/98 -0600, you wrote: > >Since Adobe doesn't have an NT variant of their PS printer, there are >alternates that do work. If you hapen to have a HP printer, then the CD >that comes with, has a PS Printer Driver. If you don't, I'm not sure how to >get Distiller Assisant working. I lucked out as I have 2 HP LaserJet 5Si MX >printers and HP has been so kind to include a PS Printer. > >At 3:28 PM -0600 3/16/98, Ron Culp wrote: >>Can someone please help me locate a general PS driver for NT? I am running >>4.0 service pack 3, and would rather use the Distiller for Word & >>PowerPOint than PDFWriter. >> >>I cannot find a generic PS driver on my NT program disk. >> >>Any help would be greatly appreciated. >> >>Thanks in advance, >> >>Ron > > > >================================================= >Sent from the PowerBook 3400c of: >---------------------------------------- >Shane Cooper >Laser Tech Color >2010 Westridge Dr >Irving, Tx 75038 >mailto:scoop@lasertechcolor.com >http://www.lasertechcolor.com >http://home1.gte.net/jcoop >direct: 972.714.4818 >fx: 972.714.4000 >---------------------------------------- > >"There are three kinds of people in this world: >Those who make things happen; those who watch things happen; >and those that wonder what happens," - Unknown. > >================================================= > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Mar-1998 0:27:26-GMT,2803;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02498 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:27:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA01223; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 18:05:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 18:00:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA01023; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 18:00:11 -0600 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 18:11:03 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tim Conrad Subject: RE: [PDF] Indexes for the web Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Doug, You may want to look at Verity, specifically the Search 97' Information Server product. Verity can perform a full-text index/search capability on your pdf document collection as well as html and most other major file types. As a Verity partner, we use this solution in our product "Virtual File Cabinet" for an out of the box Intranet/Extranet .pdf server (or general document sharing solution). Additionally, VFC can host on-line mark-ups/annotations/collaborations on .pdf files. Hope this helps. Sincerely, Tim Conrad Infodata Systems, Inc. (v) 703-293-2808 (f) 703-934-8161 e-mail: tconrad@infodata.com Visit our Web Site at: http://www.infodata.com -----Original Message----- From: Moody, Doug [SMTP:DMoody@new-breed.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 5:23 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Indexes for the web I know this has been discussed before, but I lost the thread on it. Does anyone know where from Adobe or elsewhere you can get the info for making PDF indexes searchable by the same search engines used by Yahoo, Altavista, Excite, etc? We want to have not only our intranet HTML pages searchable, but also the PDF files we have out there too! TIA Doug Moody New Breed Corporations dmoody@new-breed.com (336) 218-7535 x43 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 17-Mar-1998 23:39:10-GMT,2321;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01287 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:39:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA32118; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:17:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:13:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA31860; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:13:29 -0600 Subject: [PDF] Quicktime/Mpeg Date: Tue, 17 Mar 98 22:23:27 -0000 x-sender: shoto@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Graeme Armitage To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at post.mail.demon.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <890173088.1021194.0@shoto.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Having all kinds of problems with quicktime movies I am producing presentations on a mac that run on a pc laptop they incorporate quicktime movies when played on the lap top through arobat a line of pixels appears starting fom the centre of the movie and trailling of the movie panel on to the background pdf. when the same movie is played on the same machine but through the movie player it is perfect. also the movie through acrobat is more jerky than direct through the movie player Any one any ideas as to the problem and the solution Pc spec Toshiba tegra 133 mhz pentium 2gig HD 6 speed CD running 16 bit colour 800x600 80 megs ram I am also looking for some one in the UK that I could phone who has had some success with MpegOpen running Mpegs through Acrobat. Probabley through my ignorance I cannot get any thing to work and I have an irate and impatciant client breathing down my neck regards Graeme Armitage Work Tel 0161 941 4288 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Mar-1998 10:20:12-GMT,3214;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA15770 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 03:20:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA17455; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 03:46:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 03:43:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA17368; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 03:43:31 -0600 Message-ID: <000401bd524d$d290b420$1f40dec2@nplum.demon.co.uk> From: Nic Plum To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at post.mail.demon.net Subject: [PDF] Re: JavaScript Submit Problem Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:32:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Are you sure SubmitForm is a kosha bit of JavaScript? It looks like a MSism - simply in the appropriate place return true and attach this to the onClick event for the submit button itself i.e. the subroutine that does something when the submit button is clicked on. If in doubt wrt to JavaScript syntax I'd look at the Developer World part of the Netscape site or the JScript part of the Microsoft one. Both have downloadable sets of guides. Nic. _____________________________________________________________________ Buckden, < www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/ > Huntingdon, For information management and Cambs, Adobe Acrobat integration from UK. within your favourite PE18 9SZ wordprocessor _____________________________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Robert Porter To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Date: 16 March 1998 19:31 > > >Okay, I'm doing a plain little this.submitForm("page.asp#FDF") call, and >I am getting a Syntax error when I do it in Netscape Nav 4.04, but it >works fine >in IE 4.01. I know the JavaScript functionality is working because my >Alert >that asks "Are you sure?" works fine. Any clues/hints? > >robert porter >applications developer >renaissance interactive > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- ----+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- ----+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Mar-1998 11:01:06-GMT,1369;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA16612 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 04:01:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA18519; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 04:32:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 04:31:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA18474; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 04:31:45 -0600 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412565CB.003957C3.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:29:53 +0100 Subject: Antwort: [PDF] Indexes for the web Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We made good experiences using Microsoft Index Server with the IFilter-Plugin from Adobe. Regards, Laura Dietz (Mannesmann Arcor) +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Mar-1998 12:22:24-GMT,2225;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA18136 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 05:22:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA20587; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 05:57:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 05:56:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA20537; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 05:56:13 -0600 X-Sender: agodbout@10.0.0.1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:46:41 -0300 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: agodbout@mccurdy.ns.ca (Alain Godbout) Subject: [PDF] Dist Asst Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 A response to the Distiller for NT thread mentioned Distiller Assistant. Well! Has any one else had problems with this program? I run it on several Win95 machines. It is part of the default Exchange install performed by our techies, and very difficult to remove once installed (it's a start-up item that can't be simply deleted). I keep promising myself to remove it, but haven't got around to it. My problem with Dist Asst is that it interferes with operating system basics, like disk access and Win95 printing - not all the time, just often enough. The result is a hung machine. Ctrl-Alt-Del recovers and reports that Dist Asst has stopped responding. I quit Dist Asst through the recovery dialog and life goes on as it should, till I reboot . . . Am I missing something? Is there a way to remove Dist Asst other than deleting bits and pieces in Windows Safe Mode? Will I lose some important features without it? How do I convey this tactfully to clients? Looking forward to your response! Alain +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Mar-1998 13:11:26-GMT,1747;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19058 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 06:11:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA22018; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 06:50:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 06:48:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA21953; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 06:48:41 -0600 Message-Id: <199803181249.NAA01230@dns.IT.net> Date: 18 Mar 98 13:46:18 +0100 From: Marco Lorenzi Subject: [PDF] probs with ventura To: ss X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, I've hundreds of Ventura 4.2 files to convert in PDF. I've tried to do this using Distiller 3.01 or PdfWriter 3.02 NT and 95, but everytimes I've the same problem: printing from Ventura an A4 file, the pdf that I obtain isn't centered in the page, but it is shifted two inches from left to right, so the image is cutted on the right. PS: the image area, the paper size and so on are correct in Ventura and on Acrobat prefs. Help me, please Marco Lorenzi, Netflow Genoa Italy +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Mar-1998 14:06:22-GMT,2182;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20149 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 07:06:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA23918; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 07:39:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 07:37:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA23828; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 07:37:39 -0600 Message-Id: <199803181402.PAA05114@zahra.easynet.it> Subject: Re: [PDF] probs with ventura Date: Wed, 18 Mar 98 14:39:47 +0100 x-sender: public@easy1.easynet.it x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Milko Schiopetto To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id HAA23825 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > >Hi, >I've hundreds of Ventura 4.2 files to convert in PDF. I've tried to do this >using Distiller 3.01 or PdfWriter 3.02 NT and 95, but everytimes I've the >same >problem: printing from Ventura an A4 file, the pdf that I obtain isn't >centered in >the page, but it is shifted two inches from left to right, so the image is >cutted >on the right. >PS: the image area, the paper size and so on are correct in Ventura and on >Acrobat prefs. >Help me, please > >Marco Lorenzi, Netflow >Genoa Italy Questo perché stai stampando i files di Ventura da una stazione Windows 95. Se ti è possibile, genera i files PS da una stazione Win31 o Win31W. Se proprio non ti è possibile, seleziona come formato di output A3 invece di A4 e, una volta ottenuto il PDF, lo ritagli con Exchange. :o Ciao. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Mar-1998 14:47:07-GMT,3917;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21018 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 07:47:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA26139; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:18:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:18:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26076; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:17:58 -0600 Message-ID: From: Robert Porter To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: JavaScript Submit Problem Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:21:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I figured it out. Since I had a base URL for the PDF, Netscape was trying to append the URL in the submitForm to the base URL. IE didn't do this. I changed the URL in the submit script to agree with the base URL and it works now. robert porter applications developer renaissanceinteractive > -----Original Message----- > From: Nic Plum [SMTP:nic@nplum.demon.co.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 4:33 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Re: JavaScript Submit Problem > > > Are you sure SubmitForm is a kosha bit of JavaScript? > > It looks like a MSism - simply in the appropriate place return true > and attach this to the onClick event for the submit button itself i.e. > the subroutine that does something when the submit button is clicked > on. > > If in doubt wrt to JavaScript syntax I'd look at the Developer World > part of the Netscape site or the JScript part of the Microsoft one. > Both have downloadable sets of guides. > > Nic. > _____________________________________________________________________ > > Buckden, < www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/ > > Huntingdon, For information management and > Cambs, Adobe Acrobat integration from > UK. within your favourite > PE18 9SZ wordprocessor > _____________________________________________________________________ > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Porter > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Date: 16 March 1998 19:31 > > > > > > > >Okay, I'm doing a plain little this.submitForm("page.asp#FDF") call, > and > >I am getting a Syntax error when I do it in Netscape Nav 4.04, but it > >works fine > >in IE 4.01. I know the JavaScript functionality is working because > my > >Alert > >that asks "Are you sure?" works fine. Any clues/hints? > > > >robert porter > >applications developer > >renaissance interactive > > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----+ > >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----+ > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Mar-1998 14:47:09-GMT,2480;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21022 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 07:47:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA25937; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:15:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:14:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA25837; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:14:52 -0600 Message-ID: <004e01bd5278$fc3c3800$0ba4f482@ulf> From: "Ulf Andersson" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] probs with ventura Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:20:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This is a known VPproblem in win 95. Right click on the vp icon. Select properties. Delete the switches after vpwin.exe. Regards Ulf -----Original Message----- From: Marco Lorenzi To: ss Date: den 18 mars 1998 14:07 Subject: [PDF] probs with ventura > >Hi, >I've hundreds of Ventura 4.2 files to convert in PDF. I've tried to do this >using Distiller 3.01 or PdfWriter 3.02 NT and 95, but everytimes I've the same >problem: printing from Ventura an A4 file, the pdf that I obtain isn't centered in >the page, but it is shifted two inches from left to right, so the image is cutted >on the right. >PS: the image area, the paper size and so on are correct in Ventura and on >Acrobat prefs. >Help me, please > >Marco Lorenzi, Netflow >Genoa Italy > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Mar-1998 16:11:49-GMT,1442;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23220 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:11:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA30144; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:39:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:37:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29993; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:37:52 -0600 Message-Id: <199803181602.RAA06635@zahra.easynet.it> Subject: Re: [PDF] probs with ventura Date: Wed, 18 Mar 98 16:40:06 +0100 x-sender: public@easy1.easynet.it x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Milko Schiopetto To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > >This is a known VPproblem in win 95. >Right click on the vp icon. >Select properties. >Delete the switches after vpwin.exe. You are speaking about Ventura 4.2 or higher ? +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Mar-1998 16:45:10-GMT,2897;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24113 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:45:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA01210; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:37:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:34:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00970; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:34:17 -0600 Message-ID: <350F8A73.19C8@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:48:52 +0000 From: "L. Spear" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0-C-AICK1-2 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Dist Asst References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Alain Godbout wrote: > > A response to the Distiller for NT thread mentioned Distiller Assistant. Well! > > Has any one else had problems with this program? I run it on several Win95 > machines. It is part of the default Exchange install performed by our > techies, and very difficult to remove once installed (it's a start-up item > that can't be simply deleted). I keep promising myself to remove it, but > haven't got around to it. > > My problem with Dist Asst is that it interferes with operating system > basics, like disk access and Win95 printing - not all the time, just often > enough. The result is a hung machine. Ctrl-Alt-Del recovers and reports > that Dist Asst has stopped responding. I quit Dist Asst through the > recovery dialog and life goes on as it should, till I reboot . . . > > Am I missing something? Is there a way to remove Dist Asst other than > deleting bits and pieces in Windows Safe Mode? Will I lose some important > features without it? How do I convey this tactfully to clients? > > Looking forward to your response! > > Alain > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Good Question Alain. I found I had to do a custom install, and exclude the dreaded Distiller Assist. from loading. I would be interested in hearing how to solve this problem. Best Regards, L. Spear +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Mar-1998 18:20:21-GMT,2991;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA27063 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:20:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA04549; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:54:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:50:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04390; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:49:59 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980318174944.00937c40@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:49:44 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Dist Asst Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 If you don't want DistAsst to run, just remove its shortcut from your Startup folder. I've never had a problem doing this on either Win95 or WinNT; it sounds like you may have something else wrong in your system. A complete uninstall and selective reinstall of Acrobat 3.01 would probably be a good idea! Tom Thiersch At 08:46 AM 3/18/98 -0300, you wrote: > >A response to the Distiller for NT thread mentioned Distiller Assistant. Well! > >Has any one else had problems with this program? I run it on several Win95 >machines. It is part of the default Exchange install performed by our >techies, and very difficult to remove once installed (it's a start-up item >that can't be simply deleted). I keep promising myself to remove it, but >haven't got around to it. > >My problem with Dist Asst is that it interferes with operating system >basics, like disk access and Win95 printing - not all the time, just often >enough. The result is a hung machine. Ctrl-Alt-Del recovers and reports >that Dist Asst has stopped responding. I quit Dist Asst through the >recovery dialog and life goes on as it should, till I reboot . . . > >Am I missing something? Is there a way to remove Dist Asst other than >deleting bits and pieces in Windows Safe Mode? Will I lose some important >features without it? How do I convey this tactfully to clients? > >Looking forward to your response! > >Alain > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Mar-1998 22:00:11-GMT,1708;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA03328 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:00:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA14389; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:37:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:35:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA14270; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:35:29 -0600 From: "Michael R. Cessna" Organization: Cessna Publishing To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:36:46 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] UNIX / Memory Requirements Message-ID: <19980318213616.AAC21855@ns1.win.net.win.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 HP/UX Does anybody know what the memory requirements are when running Acrobat Reader+Search on a HP/UX system? The systems I'm dealing with will be running mainly SimLink (CAD)...and its ID database. Others will also have an AS400 emulator running. So far tests seem to indicate Acrobat is a very memory hungry app on the HP/UX systems. Is there any way to optimize Acrobate on HP/UX? Thanks. Regards, Michael Cessna +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Mar-1998 22:05:41-GMT,1414;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA03502 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:05:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA14390; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:37:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:35:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA14263; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:35:29 -0600 From: "Michael R. Cessna" Organization: Cessna Publishing To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:36:46 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] Acrord32 / Network Message-ID: <19980318213616.AAB21855@ns1.win.net.win.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Does anybody know how many instances of Acrord32 can be running from a network location? (Windows 95, NT 4 Server) Regards, Michael Cessna +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 18-Mar-1998 23:51:39-GMT,2274;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06493 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:51:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA19023; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:23:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:20:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA18788; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:20:40 -0600 Message-Id: <199803182321.OAA11706@calvino.alaska.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] UNIX / Memory Requirements Date: Wed, 18 Mar 98 14:21:38 -0900 x-sender: dtak@mailhost.alaska.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v2, June 6, 1997 From: dtak To: "pdf lists" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >HP/UX > >Does anybody know what the memory requirements are when running >Acrobat Reader+Search on a HP/UX system? The systems I'm dealing >with will be running mainly SimLink (CAD)...and its ID database. >Others will also have an AS400 emulator running. > >So far tests seem to indicate Acrobat is a very memory hungry app on >the HP/UX systems. I have no HP-UX first hand experience, but this is from the Install Text on the Reader 3.0 CD-ROM: -- If you're using an HP workstation: * 9000 series workstation model 700 or 800 * HP-UX(TM) 9.0.3 or later operating system software * X Window System(TM) X11R5 with HP-VUE or CDE 1.0 * 12 megabytes of available hard disk space * A 32 megabyte machine -- DT ---- http://www.alaska.net/~dtak "In a new job it's important to find the only person in an office who understands the computer. Make friends with that person." -- Herbert Kavet, "Computers" +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Mar-1998 2:39:46-GMT,2041;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA10798 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 19:39:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA25854; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 20:10:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 20:09:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA25733; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 20:09:01 -0600 Message-ID: <005f01bd52db$6b3087e0$64ef09ce@omalley.deskmedia.com> From: "Martin Jackson" To: Subject: [PDF] Question: Copy protecting CD-ROMs in ISO9660 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 20:04:56 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, This question has probably been asked before, but I have tried to find an answer and haven't. I would like to burn CDs with PDF files on them. I would like the files to be readily accessible on the CD-ROM, but not for copying off the CD or printing. I know I can have a password that prevents printing, but how can I prevent copying the file itself? I have an HP7200i CD-RW, with Adaptec Easy CD Creator. Thanks for any help. Martin Jackson: mjackson@deskmedia.com ======================================= Information Science Major Mankato State University ======================================= +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Mar-1998 3:54:50-GMT,1945;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA12544 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 20:54:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA28558; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:27:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:25:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA28455; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:25:26 -0600 Message-ID: <350FE6DE.D23FA920@cyburban.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:23:10 -0500 From: Michael Lee X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PdfMark & Bookmarks Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi All, I was wondering if its possible to create bookmarks in a tree structure, something like this. Region---v Branch1--v Rep1 Rep2 Rep3 Branch2--v Rep4 Rep5 I know I can do one level, but I would like to be able to go another level down like above. I have the following that works for one level: [/Count 2 /Page 1 /View [/XYZ 44 730 1.0] /Title \(Branch1) /OUT pdfmark [/Page 1 /View [/Fit] /Title \(Rep1\) /OUT pdfmark [/Page 2 /View [/Fit] /Title \(Rep2\) /OUT pdfmark [/Count -1 /Page 2 /View [/XYZ 44 730 1.0] /Title \(Branch2) /OUT pdfmark [/Page 11 /View [/Fit] /Title \(Rep3) /OUT pdfmark Thanks for any help +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Mar-1998 6:16:50-GMT,1646;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA15911 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:16:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA00127; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:58:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:55:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA32763; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:55:04 -0600 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:55:21 +1200 (NZST) X-Sender: both@pop3.netaccess.co.nz Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Andrew R. Both" Subject: [PDF] JavaScript.........??? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm wanting to learn JS, has someone a good new title of a book ...? :)> andrew ___________________________________________________ "Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils." Hector Berlioz (1803-1869). French composer. ___________________________________________________ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Mar-1998 9:16:32-GMT,3449;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA19771 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 02:16:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA04460; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 02:54:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Mar 1998 02:50:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA04380; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 02:50:20 -0600 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E016A99@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Question: Copy protecting CD-ROMs in ISO9660 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 19:49:22 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Martin, Unfortunately there is no method [that I know of] by which you can prevent copying of files from a CD[rom]. In order for Acrobat to be able to open the file, it would have to be able to read it from the CD and thus anybody can open explorer and copy the files off individually. One possible deterent for people attempting to copy your PDFs would be to encrypt the files and write a plug-in which decrypts the files on open [it could use a key stored somewhere on the CD]. This would not stop the files from being copied but it would have a similar outcome. However ... then you would have to stop people from copying the plug-in / and the CD. You should bear in mind, almost all mechanisms that you can devise will almost always be circumvented by someone with more time than you. Good luck! regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions - SendMail with Acrobat Exchange, download RTSJoust! http://www.roundtable.com.au > -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Jackson [SMTP:mjackson@deskmedia.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 1998 12:05 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Question: Copy protecting CD-ROMs in ISO9660 > > > Hello, > > This question has probably been asked before, but I have tried to find > an > answer and haven't. > > I would like to burn CDs with PDF files on them. I would like the > files to > be readily accessible on the CD-ROM, but not for copying off the CD or > printing. I know I can have a password that prevents printing, but > how can > I prevent copying the file itself? > > I have an HP7200i CD-RW, with Adaptec Easy CD Creator. Thanks for any > help. > > Martin Jackson: mjackson@deskmedia.com > ======================================= > Information Science Major > Mankato State University > ======================================= > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Mar-1998 9:17:14-GMT,4459;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA19792 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 02:17:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA04808; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 03:07:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Mar 1998 03:05:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA04740; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 03:05:15 -0600 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E016A9B@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Question: Copy protecting CD-ROMs in ISO9660 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 20:04:20 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 If I can reply to my own posting. Having thought a little further on this issue I have some more info. This is similar to limiting the number of printed copies from a PDF. You could achieve the sort of security that you are after by: 1. Secure the PDF files physically [encapsulate in your own encrypted file system] 2. Write a retrieval agent which is able to retrieve the files from your encrypted file system. 3. Link your own viewer interface with the agent. This interface could hide the method of retrieval. I would expect this to be a considerable amount of work. regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions - SendMail with Acrobat Exchange, download RTSJoust! http://www.roundtable.com.au > -----Original Message----- > From: Karl De Abrew > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 1998 7:49 PM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: RE: [PDF] Question: Copy protecting CD-ROMs in ISO9660 > > Martin, > > Unfortunately there is no method [that I know of] by which you can > prevent copying of files from a CD[rom]. > > In order for Acrobat to be able to open the file, it would have to be > able to read it from the CD and thus anybody can open explorer and > copy the files off individually. > > One possible deterent for people attempting to copy your PDFs would be > to encrypt the files and write a plug-in which decrypts the files on > open [it could use a key stored somewhere on the CD]. This would not > stop the files from being copied but it would have a similar outcome. > However ... then you would have to stop people from copying the > plug-in / and the CD. > > You should bear in mind, almost all mechanisms that you can devise > will almost always be circumvented by someone with more time than you. > Good luck! > > regards, > > Karl De Abrew > karl@roundtable.com.au > Round Table Solutions - SendMail with Acrobat Exchange, download > RTSJoust! > http://www.roundtable.com.au > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Jackson [SMTP:mjackson@deskmedia.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 1998 12:05 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Question: Copy protecting CD-ROMs in > ISO9660 > > > Hello, > > This question has probably been asked before, but I have tried > to find an > answer and haven't. > > I would like to burn CDs with PDF files on them. I would like > the files to > be readily accessible on the CD-ROM, but not for copying off the > CD or > printing. I know I can have a password that prevents printing, > but how can > I prevent copying the file itself? > > I have an HP7200i CD-RW, with Adaptec Easy CD Creator. Thanks > for any help. > > Martin Jackson: mjackson@deskmedia.com > ======================================= > Information Science Major > Mankato State University > ======================================= > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Mar-1998 12:42:33-GMT,7224;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA23969 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 05:42:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA09710; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:20:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:16:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA09611; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:16:13 -0600 From: g.pitcher@napier.ac.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:44:25 +0000 Message-ID: <00028CEC.3207@napier.ac.uk> To: Karl De Abrew , "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] Question: Copy protecting CD-ROMs in ISO9660 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IMA.Boundary.052903098" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 --IMA.Boundary.052903098 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part There are companies who specialise in this type of security. I visited one, Cedilla, in Reading, UK about 18 months ago and they had exactly what you are looking for. It didn't fit my bill as I needed something for the web. We got that sorted usning an Acrobat plug-in developer (the same one Cedilla use) and built authentication with Frontier (Mac). We now have authentication running at Beta stage on WinNT and UNIX. George Pitcher SCOPE Project Napier University, Edinburgh g.pitcher@napier.ac.uk www.frontier.napier.ac.uk _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: RE: [PDF] Question: Copy protecting CD-ROMs in ISO9660 From: Karl De Abrew at Internet-Gateway Date: 19/3/98 8:04 pm If I can reply to my own posting. Having thought a little further on this issue I have some more info. This is similar to limiting the number of printed copies from a PDF. You could achieve the sort of security that you are after by: 1. Secure the PDF files physically [encapsulate in your own encrypted file system] 2. Write a retrieval agent which is able to retrieve the files from your encrypted file system. 3. Link your own viewer interface with the agent. This interface could hide the method of retrieval. I would expect this to be a considerable amount of work. regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions - SendMail with Acrobat Exchange, download RTSJoust! http://www.roundtable.com.au > -----Original Message----- > From: Karl De Abrew > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 1998 7:49 PM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: RE: [PDF] Question: Copy protecting CD-ROMs in ISO9660 > > Martin, > > Unfortunately there is no method [that I know of] by which you can > prevent copying of files from a CD[rom]. > > In order for Acrobat to be able to open the file, it would have to be > able to read it from the CD and thus anybody can open explorer and > copy the files off individually. > > One possible deterent for people attempting to copy your PDFs would be > to encrypt the files and write a plug-in which decrypts the files on > open [it could use a key stored somewhere on the CD]. This would not > stop the files from being copied but it would have a similar outcome. > However ... then you would have to stop people from copying the > plug-in / and the CD. > > You should bear in mind, almost all mechanisms that you can devise > will almost always be circumvented by someone with more time than you. > Good luck! > > regards, > > Karl De Abrew > karl@roundtable.com.au > Round Table Solutions - SendMail with Acrobat Exchange, download > RTSJoust! > http://www.roundtable.com.au > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Jackson [SMTP:mjackson@deskmedia.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 1998 12:05 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Question: Copy protecting CD-ROMs in > ISO9660 > > > Hello, > > This question has probably been asked before, but I have tried > to find an > answer and haven't. > > I would like to burn CDs with PDF files on them. I would like > the files to > be readily accessible on the CD-ROM, but not for copying off the > CD or > printing. I know I can have a password that prevents printing, > but how can > I prevent copying the file itself? > > I have an HP7200i CD-RW, with Adaptec Easy CD Creator. Thanks > for any help. > > Martin Jackson: mjackson@deskmedia.com > ======================================= > Information Science Major > Mankato State University > ======================================= > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ --IMA.Boundary.052903098 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from central.napier.ac.uk (146.176.2.3) by csu_mail1.napier.ac.uk with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.12 Enterprise) id 0002871C; Thu, 19 Mar 98 09:25:23 +0000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by central.napier.ac.uk (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id JAA17448 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:25:51 GMT Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA04756; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 03:05:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Mar 1998 03:05:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA04740; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 03:05:15 -0600 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E016A9B@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Question: Copy protecting CD-ROMs in ISO9660 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 20:04:20 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 --IMA.Boundary.052903098-- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Mar-1998 13:00:34-GMT,2204;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA24287 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:00:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA10376; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:42:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:41:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA10319; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:41:22 -0600 Message-ID: <351112AD.E1B17BC2@beacon.com> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 07:42:21 -0500 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Question: Copy protecting CD-ROMs in ISO9660 References: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E016A99@ARTHUR> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Karl De Abrew wrote: > > Unfortunately there is no method [that I know of] by which you can > prevent copying of files from a CD[rom]. > > In order for Acrobat to be able to open the file, it would have to be > able to read it from the CD and thus anybody can open explorer and copy > the files off individually. True enough, but there are plug-in-based security systems that come close to what is needed here. The general theory of operation is that a PDF file is encrypted, and a free plug-in is provided for decryption. Without the plug-in, the file is useless. Therefore *copying* is not prevented, but the motive to copy is undercut. One such solution is available from SoftLock (no affiliation). I'm sure there are also other security schemes available to choose from. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Mar-1998 13:00:48-GMT,1932;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA24291 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:00:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA10793; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:52:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:51:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA10746; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:51:31 -0600 From: rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: BELLCORE To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852565CC.00461D35.00@notes950.cc.bellcore.com> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 07:50:33 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Bookmarks Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have been using FrameMaker 5 and MS Word to create PDF files. Sometimes, I noticed that when I displayed the PDF files from FrameMaker 5, some of them seemed to have all bookmarks collapsed and some of them have all bookmarks expanded. When I used the pdfmark program with MS Word to generate PDF files, they seemed to start with all bookmarks expanded. Does someone know how to control this behavior with FrameMaker and MS Word? I would like to consistently produce PDF files that either have all bookmarks expanded. By the way, is there a plug-in to Acrobat Reader or Exchange that can expand or collapse all bookmarks? Perhaps, this might be an answer for me. Thanks, Rucksapol Jiwungkul Bellcore +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Mar-1998 13:22:13-GMT,2554;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA24747 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:22:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA11155; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 07:04:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Mar 1998 07:03:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA11117; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 07:03:32 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Czajka, Mark" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Question: Copy protecting CD-ROMs in ISO9660 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 07:59:06 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Take a look at one of the few PDF encryption products that are available. FileLock, SoftLock, or Signet. > ---------- > From: Martin Jackson > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:04 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Question: Copy protecting CD-ROMs in ISO9660 > > > Hello, > > This question has probably been asked before, but I have tried to find > an > answer and haven't. > > I would like to burn CDs with PDF files on them. I would like the > files to > be readily accessible on the CD-ROM, but not for copying off the CD or > printing. I know I can have a password that prevents printing, but > how can > I prevent copying the file itself? > > I have an HP7200i CD-RW, with Adaptec Easy CD Creator. Thanks for any > help. > > Martin Jackson: mjackson@deskmedia.com > ======================================= > Information Science Major > Mankato State University > ======================================= > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Mar-1998 15:25:07-GMT,1911;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27406 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:25:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA17248; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:03:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:01:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17126; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:01:28 -0600 Date: 19 Mar 98 08:06:06 -0700 From: Dennis Walker Subject: RE: [PDF] JavaScript.........??? To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-ID: <1321827924-25315431@mail.inpractice.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA17119 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Reply to: RE: [PDF] JavaScript.........??? Andrew R. Both wrote: > >I'm wanting to learn JS, has someone a good new title of a book ...? There are two published by O'Riley (sp?) that are supposed to be really good. If you go to Amazon and search for "javascript," I believe they both come up within the top three picks. There's even reader comments there. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 x262 voice InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Mar-1998 17:28:14-GMT,2468;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01060 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:28:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA22860; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:58:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:55:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA22744; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:55:33 -0600 MR-Received: by mta DONALD; Relayed; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:54:00 -0500 Alternate-recipient: prohibited Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:37:28 -0500 (EST) From: Sid Spungen 301-594-0107 FAX 301-594-0167 Subject: [PDF] PDF Linked Documents on the Web To: pdf Cc: Gail Chotoff Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:53:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal UA-content-id: E1076ZXHKGZZF5 X400-MTS-identifier: [;00451191308991/2445654@FDACD] A1-type: MAIL Hop-count: 1 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am designing HTML pages for an intranet site. Some of the HTML pages link to PDF pages. What I'm finding is that when I link from an HTML page to a PDF page, which in turn has PDF links to different pages in another PDF document, 1) all of the links go to the first page of the document, and 2) once linked to the second PDF document, I can't get back to the first PDF document. The browser, by the way, is MS Internet Explorer Version 3.02, and I have Internet Reader 3 installed on the PC (as well as Acrobat Exchange 3). I have the same problem in FrontPage Editor preview. However, if I use Acrobat Reader or Exchange to access the first PDF document directly, the linking works perfectly. Is there any solution for the problem? If not, the usefulness of PDF files in a web environment is severely compromised. Sid Spungen spungen@cder.fda.gov (301) 594-0101 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Mar-1998 19:37:05-GMT,2725;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04948 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:37:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA29658; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:23:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:21:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29579; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:21:38 -0600 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <98Mar19.105932pst.32265@teleport.nortel-nsm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 20:24:03 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] vector vs. bitmapped source Cc: ben_hechter@nortel-nsm.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Ben, . . . . it depends Normally, the vector based files are smaller, but when the picture gets more complex, it can be an advantage to have a bitmap. From a certain complexity on, a bitmap does display faster than a vector based graphic. This size depends on the performance of your machine. So, it could be that your vector based file is smaller, but due to the rendering, it takes more time to appear on screen. It also depends on the final size of your graphic. If you have a small graphic, and you know that it will not be considerably scaled, you may go with a bitmap. However, if you know that the graphic will be scaled, you may need the vector format. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ____________ >Hi All, >I'm new to the list and very impressed! >A hypothetical question: >I have two graphic files of the same content, one is vector-based, one is >bit-mapped. >My understanding is that the vector-based file will be much smaller than >the bit-mapped file. > >If I now convert both files to PDF, is it still true that the vector-based >version would be significanly smaller and thus faster? > >Ben Hechter >Nortel Vancouver Canada > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Mar-1998 20:22:48-GMT,2248;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA06262 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:22:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA31120; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:56:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:53:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA30932; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:53:21 -0600 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:45:06 -0500 From: chamlin@aip.org (Chris Hamlin) Message-Id: <199803191945.OAA12900@nirvana> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] vector vs. bitmapped source Cc: ben_hechter@nortel-nsm.com X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 : : Ben, : : . . . . it depends : : Normally, the vector based files are smaller, but when the picture gets : more complex, it can be an advantage to have a bitmap. From a certain : complexity on, a bitmap does display faster than a vector based graphic. : This size depends on the performance of your machine. So, it could be that : your vector based file is smaller, but due to the rendering, it takes more : time to appear on screen. : : It also depends on the final size of your graphic. If you have a small : graphic, and you know that it will not be considerably scaled, you may go : with a bitmap. However, if you know that the graphic will be scaled, you : may need the vector format. : : Hope, this can help. : And, the vector graphic is resolution independent. OK on screen, but highest resolution on the printer, too. No need to worry about what resolution to distill at. Chris Hamlin American Institute of Physics, 500 Sunnyside Blvd, Woodbury, NY 11797-2999 Internet: chamlin@aip.org Phone: 516/576-2335 FAX: 516/349-7669 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Mar-1998 20:30:49-GMT,3388;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA06532 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:30:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA31657; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:06:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:05:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA31559; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:05:10 -0600 Message-Id: <199803192004.PAA10392@next.aps.org> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: <98Mar19.105932pst.32265@teleport.nortel-nsm.com> X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b6) From: Mark Doyle Date: Thu, 19 Mar 98 15:04:50 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] vector vs. bitmapped source References: <98Mar19.105932pst.32265@teleport.nortel-nsm.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, ben_hechter@nortel-nsm.com wrote: > I have two graphic files of the same content, one is vector-based, one is > bit-mapped. My understanding is that the vector-based file will be much > smaller than the bit-mapped file. > > If I now convert both files to PDF, is it still true that the vector-based > version would be significanly smaller and thus faster? Faster how? To download over the web? To display? The bitmaps will almost certainly display faster.. Anyway, I would recommend going with the vector version if you can because it is resolution independent and will be rendered optimally for whatever display or printing device is being used to render the document. So zooming and printing will be better. It is not always the case that the bitmap is larger than the vector. It depends on what resolution you choose to make the bitmap (100 dpi vs. 1200 dpi is a factor of 100 different in size). An example of poor vector files is the PS output of some graph plotting programs that produce quite inefficient (in size) vector PS files for 1000's of points (and are slow to render as well) which when bitmapped can be much smaller. You have to examine the tradeoff in having a fixed resolution vs. the size savings (bitmaps also compress MUCH better than the vector files, but I am not sure how PDF handles compressing them). You should try a variety of test files. The results will depend on factors particular to the kinds of files you are dealing with, what resolution you want to bitmap at, and what the files will be used for (onscreen viewing, printing on 300 - 600 dpi printers, etc.). Another choice might be to make several varieties of PDF's available and let users choose which to use depending on what is important to them (download speed vs. print quality). A final concern is how long the files will remain in use. A good resolution today for online viewing might be an abysmal choice 10 years from now. Hope this helps. Cheers, Mark +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Mar-1998 21:34:11-GMT,2634;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA08475 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:34:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA01075; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:58:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:56:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA00938; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:56:04 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980319205626.00932d98@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:56:26 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] AutoIndex to mount when opened- Assign with UNC? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 You can open individual PDFs using UNCs, but UNCs don't work with the Acrobat (Verity) Search plug-in; the relative path relationship between the PDX and the PDFs allows you to work around this, as long as you map a drive letter (any drive letter) to the share where the index is located. Using different client-side drive letter mappings won't matter as long as the index is defined to use *relative* path names; that is, the index must reside on the same volume as the PDFs to which it refers for this to work. Autoindexed PDFs should work the same way, as long as the PDFs' Index information was defined with a *relative* path to the .PDX file. Tom Thiersch At 01:56 PM 3/19/98 -0500, you wrote: > > > > > >Can the index on a network server be assigned using >Universal Naming Code? \\SERVER\SHARE\INDEX.PDX >The same share has different drive letters on >different computers within the domain so I can't use a >drive letter when attaching an index. Any suggestions? >TIA Rick Bishop > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Mar-1998 23:30:56-GMT,2600;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA11683 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:30:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA05333; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:07:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:03:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA05194; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:03:09 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.3.16.19980319093426.343f80dc@pop1.ibm.net> X-Sender: badai@pop1.ibm.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (16) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:34:26 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Marcello Stanley Subject: Re: [PDF] Dist Asst In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Alain Could you tell us what kind of machine do you use with your Distiller? sometimes I experience that kinda of trouble too... I am suspecting my MGA Millenium Driver right now, but still have to test it again... thanks! Regards, Marcello S. >My problem with Dist Asst is that it interferes with operating system >basics, like disk access and Win95 printing - not all the time, just often >enough. The result is a hung machine. Ctrl-Alt-Del recovers and reports >that Dist Asst has stopped responding. I quit Dist Asst through the >recovery dialog and life goes on as it should, till I reboot . . . > >Am I missing something? Is there a way to remove Dist Asst other than >deleting bits and pieces in Windows Safe Mode? Will I lose some important >features without it? How do I convey this tactfully to clients? > >Looking forward to your response! > >Alain > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > "When you look out, it might be dark if you look up, there's always light" +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Mar-1998 0:28:44-GMT,1965;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA13180 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:28:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA06612; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:04:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:02:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA06519; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:02:12 -0600 X-ROUTED: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 19:02:18 -0400 X-TCP-IDENTITY: Tonymck Message-ID: <3511B263.167@imagebiz.com> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 19:03:47 -0500 From: Tony McKinley Organization: Intelligent Imaging X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: dmoody@new-breed.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Indexes for the web Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Doug, All the commercial search engines from Verity, Excalibur, Fulcrum, et. al. can index and search the freely published PDF format. You should write your favorite search vendors, say AltaVista, and ask them "Why don't you include the vast PDF content on the Web?" It would be no big deal to them, like flipping a switch to let their spiders index PDF. -- Tony McKinley Intelligent Imaging mailto:tonymck@imagebiz.com - Voice: 610.647.5570 >From Paper to Web - http://imagebiz.com/PaperWeb ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ - Internet Expert Editor's Recommended Book at AMAZON.com!!! +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Mar-1998 18:19:21-GMT,2699;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02639 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:19:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA25375; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:49:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:48:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25293; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:48:24 -0600 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:49:32 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Ron Traver Subject: [PDF] java acrobat reader Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Is there a 100% java acrobat reader anywhere? Are there plans for one? I have searched all the usual suspects and come up empty handed, altho I did find a press release from way back in Dec95 announcing Adobe's licensing of java, and very strong hints that it would be incorporated into acrobat in "future releases". Seems to me that future has arrived, so what happened? This would be a very powerful tool, especially for the growing number of stand-alone java applications that are not running within a web browser environment. For such applications (ours is a stand-alone network management application that accompanies our network switching hardware) the document readers are java component plugins, rather than the java being an applet plugin to a document reader. For example, there is now a very good complete web browser in java available as an embeddable component, and we are using it to display our online help. However, for online versions of printed manuals, PDF is a much better choice than HTML. So we would very much like to have a java component plugin that is capable of reading and displaying the PDF files directly that are delivered on the same CD as our software. Of course there are native acrobat readers for many platforms, that would require delivering all of them with our java application and making our installation very complex, just the kind of thing that we are seeking to avoid by choosing java as a language. Responses much appreciated. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Mar-1998 19:12:17-GMT,3309;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04205 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:12:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA27339; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:37:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:31:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27124; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:31:49 -0600 X-Sender: agodbout@10.0.0.1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:22:16 -0300 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: agodbout@mccurdy.ns.ca (Alain Godbout) Subject: Re: [PDF] java acrobat reader Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We have several clients who won't consider Acrobat for an electronic delivery system because of the big footprint and the need to download an installer for this big footprint. If a Java reader could address these two issues, it could open some doors for PDF. >Is there a 100% java acrobat reader anywhere? Are there plans for one? > >I have searched all the usual suspects and come up empty handed, altho I >did find a press release from way back in Dec95 announcing Adobe's >licensing of java, and very strong hints that it would be incorporated >into acrobat in "future releases". Seems to me that future has arrived, >so what happened? > >This would be a very powerful tool, especially for the growing number of >stand-alone java applications that are not running within a web browser >environment. For such applications (ours is a stand-alone network >management application that accompanies our network switching hardware) >the document readers are java component plugins, rather than the java >being an applet plugin to a document reader. For example, there is now a >very good complete web browser in java available as an embeddable >component, and we are using it to display our online help. However, for >online versions of printed manuals, PDF is a much better choice than >HTML. So we would very much like to have a java component plugin that is >capable of reading and displaying the PDF files directly that are >delivered on the same CD as our software. > >Of course there are native acrobat readers for many platforms, that >would require delivering all of them with our java application and >making our installation very complex, just the kind of thing that we are >seeking to avoid by choosing java as a language. > >Responses much appreciated. > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Mar-1998 19:12:24-GMT,3698;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04214 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:12:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA27556; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:41:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:40:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27497; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:40:14 -0600 From: "Norman Brandsma" To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: RE: [PDF] MPEG/QuickTime Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:41:23 -0700 Message-Id: <9803191141370G.00468@ttgkami.edm.ttg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Internet MailBridge Gateway 1.33.160 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 When creating your QuickTime movies consider carefully the CODEC you choose. Each CODEC is tuned for different playback situations, in my experience CINEPAK is best suited for playback on CD-ROM. There is much give and take when deciding what exactly one wishes to do with a particular movie. What is your priority, smooth playback, maximum quality or high compression? For QuickTime movies I try to go no higher than 10-15fps. I serves no purpose to create high framerate videos when most desktop computers cannot play them back properly. You will achieve a better playback result with 10fps medium/high quality than to try and force 24fps playback. For smooth video playback it is best to use MPEG. Unfortunately, Acrobat does not support MPEG playback at this time. Adobe has informed me that it may be a consideration in future versions. For now, MPEG files need to be linked to and played back using an external player, not as efficient as QuickTime/AVI that play inside of PDF's, but the playback quality and small files make it worth while for me. I would like to know more about MPEGOpen. I have searched high and low for an MPEG playback solution within Acrobat. Norm Brandsma Production Coordinator TTG Systems Inc. nbrandsma@ttg-inc.com Date: Tue, 17 Mar 98 22:23:27 -0000 From: Graeme Armitage Subject: [PDF] Quicktime/Mpeg Hi Having all kinds of problems with quicktime movies I am producing presentations on a mac that run on a pc laptop they incorporate quicktime movies when played on the lap top through arobat a line of pixels appears starting fom the centre of the movie and trailling of the movie panel on to the background pdf. when the same movie is played on the same machine but through the movie player it is perfect. also the movie through acrobat is more jerky than direct through the movie player Any one any ideas as to the problem and the solution Pc spec Toshiba tegra 133 mhz pentium 2gig HD 6 speed CD running 16 bit colour 800x600 80 megs ram I am also looking for some one in the UK that I could phone who has had some success with MpegOpen running Mpegs through Acrobat. Probabley through my ignorance I cannot get any thing to work and I have an irate and impatciant client breathing down my neck regards Graeme Armitage Work Tel 0161 941 4288 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Mar-1998 19:13:05-GMT,1666;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04224 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:13:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA28199; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:54:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:53:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28155; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:53:35 -0600 From: ben_hechter@nortel-nsm.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NORTEL-NSM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-Id: <98Mar19.105932pst.32265@teleport.nortel-nsm.com> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:59:23 -0800 Subject: [PDF] vector vs. bitmapped source Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi All, I'm new to the list and very impressed! A hypothetical question: I have two graphic files of the same content, one is vector-based, one is bit-mapped. My understanding is that the vector-based file will be much smaller than the bit-mapped file. If I now convert both files to PDF, is it still true that the vector-based version would be significanly smaller and thus faster? Ben Hechter Nortel Vancouver Canada +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Mar-1998 19:15:34-GMT,1570;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04309 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:15:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA28387; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:57:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:56:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28338; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:56:09 -0600 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CHAMPION INTERNATIONAL From: "Rick Bishop" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852565CC.00674991.00@KBNOTES07.champint.com> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:56:41 -0500 Subject: [PDF] AutoIndex to mount when opened- Assign with UNC? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Can the index on a network server be assigned using Universal Naming Code? \\SERVER\SHARE\INDEX.PDX The same share has different drive letters on different computers within the domain so I can't use a drive letter when attaching an index. Any suggestions? TIA Rick Bishop +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 19-Mar-1998 19:15:45-GMT,1679;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04315 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:15:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA28122; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:53:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:51:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28063; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:51:55 -0600 From: ben_hechter@nortel-nsm.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NORTEL-NSM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-Id: <98Mar19.105753pst.32269@teleport.nortel-nsm.com> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:57:42 -0800 Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for March-12-98 [V2 #168] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi All, I'm new to the list and very impressed! A hypothetical question: I have two graphic files of the same content, one is vector-based, one is bit-mapped. My understanding is that the vector-based file will be much smaller than the bit-mapped file. If I now convert both files to PDF, is it still true that the vector-based version would be significanly smaller and thus faster? Ben Hechter Nortel Vancouver Canada +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Mar-1998 7:03:40-GMT,2484;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA22144 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 00:03:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA19730; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 00:41:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Mar 1998 00:35:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA19534; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 00:35:15 -0600 Message-Id: <199803200636.HAA12829@cinet> X-Sender: p@redestb.es X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Versión 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 07:38:22 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Eduardo Valencia Subject: [PDF] Language specific OCR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id AAA19531 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am interested in adding *Basque specific OCR capabilities to the Capture plug-in in Exchange. The Capture plug-in includes the choice between some language specific OCR options: British English, American English, Spanish, etc. a) I wonder if reaching a *Basque specific OCR version for scanning documents is something that must be dealt with the help of Acrobat plug-ins or through any other means. b) Does page capturing in Exchange use any other processes apart from character recognition (OCR proper), such us checking the spelling with the help of dictionary, etc.? ------------ *Basque is a language spoken and written in zones of Western Pyrenees. In Northern Spain: Autonomous Regions of Euskadi and Navarra (in both Basque is an official language, along with Spanish) and in South-Western France (Le Pays Basque). Basque uses a Latin alphabet, not very different from Spanish but without tildes. ----------------------------- Eduardo Valencia XARELAN KULTURGINTZA S.L. Marzelo Zelaieta 75, N. AA1 31014 Iruñea info@xarelan.com 948-134559 939-409975 ---------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Mar-1998 9:28:20-GMT,2094;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA25013 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 02:28:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA23615; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 03:08:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Mar 1998 03:01:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA23395; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 03:01:19 -0600 Message-ID: <002101bd53df$8dbc9240$ecccf482@ulf> From: "Ulf Andersson" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] probs with ventura Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:07:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 It's only for VP 4.1 and 4.2. Ulf -----Original Message----- From: Milko Schiopetto To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: den 18 mars 1998 16:57 Subject: Re: [PDF] probs with ventura > >> >>This is a known VPproblem in win 95. >>Right click on the vp icon. >>Select properties. >>Delete the switches after vpwin.exe. > >You are speaking about Ventura 4.2 or higher ? >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Mar-1998 10:40:25-GMT,2152;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA26554 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 03:40:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA25478; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 04:21:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Mar 1998 04:16:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA25283; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 04:15:59 -0600 Message-Id: <199803201016.AA05604@driene.student.utwente.nl> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Arnoud Jippes" Organization: University of Twente To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:19:09 +0100 Subject: Re: [PDF] vector vs. bitmapped source Cc: doyle@aps.org X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > An example of poor vector files is the PS output of some graph > plotting programs that produce quite inefficient (in size) > vector PS files for 1000's of points (and are slow to render as > well) which when bitmapped can be much smaller. Indeed! Those points are usually filled circles and even become much bigger when converted to PDF. Such graphs are used a lot in scientific publications and it would be sooo nice when I could tell Distiller to sample a vector image to a bitmap if it exceeds a certain size treshold (in KBs). That would certainly be my golden option for the next release of Distiller ... Regards, Arnoud. ------------------------------- Arnoud G. Jippes University of Twente Library/IT Postbus 217, 7500 AE, Enschede tel: +31-534894116, fax: +31-534351805 email: a.g.jippes@ub.utwente.nl +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Mar-1998 12:19:06-GMT,1539;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA28292 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 05:19:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA27852; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 05:55:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Mar 1998 05:50:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA27716; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 05:50:21 -0600 Message-Id: <199803201148.HAA03288@mail.impgroup.com> From: "Mark Alberstat" To: "pdfgroup pdfgroup" Subject: [PDF] Capturing to a sepcific font. Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 07:57:29 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello All, I was wondering if there is anyway to force the capture plug-in in 3.01 to capture to a specific font, namely Arial. Thanks, Mark mark.alberstat@impgroup.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Mar-1998 13:56:26-GMT,3736;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA00119 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 06:56:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA31304; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 07:36:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Mar 1998 07:30:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA31027; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 07:30:34 -0600 X-Sender: agodbout@10.0.0.1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:21:11 -0300 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: agodbout@mccurdy.ns.ca (Alain Godbout) Subject: Re: [PDF] Dist Asst Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 What kind of machine? This one is a Pentium II-MMX at 233 MHz and 32mb RAM running Win95 and a Diamond FIRE GL 1000 Pro with 8mb RAM for display. There is lots of graphics software installed, including Capture 2.0 and 1.01, which both had install problems (resolveable) related to MicrosoftOffice. Let me know what other info might be of use. I think you are right looking at the driver compatibility. Distiller Assistant was conflicting big time with Quark XPress on another machine (but has just the i/o and print dialog problems on the machine described above). Adobe assures me that Dist Asst supplies no essential functionality other than convenience. Can anyone corroborate or qualify this? Is Dist Asst really good for something? Tom Thiersch, thank you for the Dist Asst removal info. There are many 'start-up' directories, but Windows/Start Menu/Programs/StartUp one did it. Thanks again. >Hi Alain > >Could you tell us what kind of machine do you use with your Distiller? >sometimes I experience that kinda of trouble too... >I am suspecting my MGA Millenium Driver right now, but still have to test >it again... > >thanks! > > >Regards, >Marcello S. > > > >>My problem with Dist Asst is that it interferes with operating system >>basics, like disk access and Win95 printing - not all the time, just often >>enough. The result is a hung machine. Ctrl-Alt-Del recovers and reports >>that Dist Asst has stopped responding. I quit Dist Asst through the >>recovery dialog and life goes on as it should, till I reboot . . . >> >>Am I missing something? Is there a way to remove Dist Asst other than >>deleting bits and pieces in Windows Safe Mode? Will I lose some important >>features without it? How do I convey this tactfully to clients? >> >>Looking forward to your response! >> >>Alain >> >> >>+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >>+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >>+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >>+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> >> >"When you look out, it might be dark >if you look up, there's always light" > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Mar-1998 14:49:33-GMT,4896;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA01286 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 07:49:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA00789; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:31:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:27:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA00517; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:27:11 -0600 Message-Id: <199803201427.PAA01713@d1o202.telia.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Linked Documents on the Web Date: Fri, 20 Mar 98 15:25:22 -0000 x-sender: u222600675@m1.2226.telia.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Richard Taubo To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA00514 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Sid! I have found the following to be true (other people might have other experiences, they always have;) You don´t say which operating system you are using, so I go with Win 95 in the description below: >1) all of the links go to the first page of the document Using Internet Explorer you need to have the 3.01 update of Acrobat Reader to be taken to a specific place in a document. Byteserving (on page at a time downloading) works with 3.0, but you will, as previously said, only be taken to page One. I don´t know why you actually need the 3.01 update, because Acrobat 3.0 on a windows 3.11 with Netscape 3.x worked nicely (i.e. you are taken directly to the right place). Another advice: One page at a time downloading (byteserving) does not seem to work at all for people running Win 3.11 and Internet Explorer. These guys will therefore have to wait until all pages are downloaded before they can start to view any pages. This seems to be true for all versions of Internet Explorer on the Win 3.11 platform. Netscape 3.x and later on Win 3.11 seems to have no problems with byteserving as mentioned before. Finally: You will have to have a 3.x Browsers and later to download on page at a time on Win 95. 2) >... once linked to the second PDF document, I can't get back to the first >PDF document . . . You don´t say what you mean by "get back to the first document". If you mean use the "back button" in the Reader plug-in, it is not possible to go to the previous document since acrobat itself does not seem to remember what the last document was. In this case you will have to use the back button in the Browser itself (which might not be a big problem since this is what the user normally will have to do). >If not, the usefulness of PDF files >in a web environment is severely compromised If you take the stuff above into consideration, you should be able to make a nice looking interface, but I - as you - was very frustrated before I saw how it was possible to solve these issues. The biggest problem is that Adobe does not have one single page where they deal with these issues on their websight (not fully at least), which means that every serious developer have to use a lot of time to figure things out (would be nice if only one guy did this job: Adobe). Still: Adobe Acrobat is a really great product:) If you have more questions please email me! It would be nice if you could mail me if you find out that Reader 3.01 worked out the way I mentioned above on your machine as well!! :) Regards Richard Taubo Bergersen -- Oslo, Norway Sid Spungen wrote: >I am designing HTML pages for an intranet site. Some of the HTML pages link >to PDF pages. What I'm finding is that when I link from an HTML page to a >PDF page, which in turn has PDF links to different pages in another PDF >document, 1) all of the links go to the first page of the document, and 2) >once linked to the second PDF document, I can't get back to the first PDF >document. The browser, by the way, is MS Internet Explorer Version 3.02, >and I have Internet Reader 3 installed on the PC (as well as Acrobat >Exchange 3). I have the same problem in FrontPage Editor preview. However, >if I use Acrobat Reader or Exchange to access the first PDF document >directly, the linking works perfectly. > >Is there any solution for the problem? If not, the usefulness of PDF files >in a web environment is severely compromised. > > Sid Spungen > spungen@cder.fda.gov > (301) 594-0101 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Mar-1998 18:31:32-GMT,2288;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA07569 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:31:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA09960; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:07:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:06:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09894; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:06:08 -0600 Message-ID: <613BC3010BB6D111B607006097925E3C820450@cas02.cas-inc.com> From: "Saccuzzo, Robin" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Latest Excel Macro Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:09:16 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, First of all I would like to thank those that responded with interest in the basic Excel pdf extraction macro that I put together. I have since updated the macro to include a user interface with selectable options on it. This will enable the users to select only those items they wish to extract from the pdf files. Another addition is the ability to run the pdf files that are located under the Location Column by clicking on the desired cell then clicking the right mouse button. If you are interested in this version email me with Extract It! in the subject line. If you would email your comments on this new version I would appreciate them. I would like to know your likes, dislikes, enchancements....etc. Please remember that you run this code at your own risk and it is for Excel 97 only. Currently, if you open a pdf file the acrobat window does not always come to front. I am researching this. If you have a quick fix please let me know. Best, Robin +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Mar-1998 18:31:41-GMT,3113;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA07578 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:31:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA09443; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:55:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:45:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09215; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:45:46 -0600 Message-ID: <81E713C85DDCD011B2F500805F317CFB9E2140@xch-rtn-14.ca.boeing.com> From: "Hayhurst, Stephen D" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: pdf-digest for March-20-98 [V2 #174] Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:38:41 -0800 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Would it be possible to embed a JS counter in your field actions to limit the number of copies? --Steve Hayhurst _______________________________________ Stephen Hayhurst Process & Marketing Support Analyst--CamTek Bldg 10-65.2 26D8 phone: 425.965.1124 or page: 206.986.3048 E-mail: stephen.hayhurst@pss.boeing.com or 2069863048@mobile.att.net Standard Disclaimer applies. "If a parsley farmer is sued, can they garnish his wages?" > Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 20:04:20 +1000 > From: Karl De Abrew > Subject: RE: [PDF] Question: Copy protecting CD-ROMs in ISO9660 > > If I can reply to my own posting. > > Having thought a little further on this issue I have some more info. > This is similar to limiting the number of printed copies from a PDF. > > You could achieve the sort of security that you are after by: > 1. Secure the PDF files physically [encapsulate in your own encrypted > file system] > 2. Write a retrieval agent which is able to retrieve the files from > your > encrypted file system. > 3. Link your own viewer interface with the agent. This interface could > hide the method of retrieval. > > I would expect this to be a considerable amount of work. > > regards, > > Karl De Abrew > karl@roundtable.com.au > Round Table Solutions - SendMail with Acrobat Exchange, download > RTSJoust! > http://www.roundtable.com.au > ... > End of pdf-digest V2 #174 > ************************* > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Mar-1998 18:31:53-GMT,1852;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA07586 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:31:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA10548; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:21:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:20:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA10510; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:20:41 -0600 From: Alois Treindl Message-Id: <199803201821.TAA27346@as73.astro.ch> Subject: [PDF] PDF inside netscape font problem To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 19:21:22 MEZ In-Reply-To: <199803200635.AAA19551@everglades.binc.net>; from "pdf-digest" at Mar 20, 98 12:35 (midnight) X-Mailer: Elm [revision: 212.3] Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I use Acrobat 3.01 on HPUX with Netscape 3.0 and 4.0 browsers. When I few a PDF with imbedded fonts inside Netscape, the font does not display correctly, only small black dots appear. When I view the same PDF with acroread or acroexch, it gets displayed correctly. What am I doing wrong - or is this a general problem? -- || Alois Treindl, Astrodienst AG, mailto:alois@astro.ch || Zollikon/Zurich, Switzerland http://www.astro.ch/ || Free timezones and charts at http://www.astro.ch/atlas/ || The home of the SWISS EPHEMERIS! http://www.astro.ch/swisseph/ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Mar-1998 20:08:00-GMT,3138;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA10489 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:07:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA14141; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:32:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:28:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA13894; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:28:31 -0600 Message-ID: <001c01bd5437$88fda2a0$ed0c0bc6@focusmelanson> From: "Rick Melanson" To: Subject: [PDF] Extract It! Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:36:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thank you for sharing your macro. Hopefully I will have some good input for you. Rick Melanson Sr. Technical Writer Micrion Corp. rmelanso@micrion.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Saccuzzo, Robin To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Date: Friday, March 20, 1998 1:30 PM Subject: [PDF] Latest Excel Macro > >Hi, > >First of all I would like to thank those that responded with interest in >the basic Excel pdf extraction macro that I put together. > >I have since updated the macro to include a user interface with >selectable options on it. This will enable the users to select only >those items they wish to extract from the pdf files. Another addition >is the ability to run the pdf files that are located under the Location >Column by clicking on the desired cell then clicking the right mouse >button. > >If you are interested in this version email me with Extract It! in the >subject line. > >If you would email your comments on this new version I would appreciate >them. I would like to know your likes, dislikes, enchancements....etc. > >Please remember that you run this code at your own risk and it is for >Excel 97 only. > > >Currently, if you open a pdf file the acrobat window does not always >come to front. I am researching this. If you have a quick fix please >let me know. > >Best, > >Robin > > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Mar-1998 22:14:56-GMT,2265;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA13875 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:14:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA21065; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:43:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:41:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20989; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:41:01 -0600 Message-Id: <9803208904.AA890426433@houston_cc_smtp.hai-net.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R6.01.01 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 98 15:42:30 -0500 From: "Jackson Scott D." To: Subject: [PDF] Errors using Adobe Acrobat MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 All, Everytime I am read a pdf formatted file using Adobe Acrobat, I receive an error message with the following details: ACRORD32 caused an invalid page fault in module USER32.DLL at 014f:bff64e46. Registers: EAX=00002008 CS=014f EIP=bff64e46 EFLGS=00010202 EBX=00000020 SS=0157 ESP=0078ef94 EBP=0078f05c ECX=00001557 DS=0157 ESI=01a42008 FS=2d07 EDX=80005cc0 ES=0157 EDI=00000cb8 GS=0000 Bytes at CS:EIP: 66 81 39 90 68 75 25 66 81 79 06 90 68 75 1d 81 Stack dump: 0041a571 00001557 00000cb8 00000020 00000cd4 02000001 0078f064 000080d2 0078f0ae 02640000 00000000 bff40000 000000d8 00000080 00000000 00000006 Other info Machine: Dell Pentium 166 O/S: Win95 Can anyone advice me on what the problem is and better yet how to solve it. Thanks in advance! Scott Jackson sjackson@hai-net.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Mar-1998 22:17:31-GMT,3199;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA13933 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:17:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA21536; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:54:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:53:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21477; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:53:23 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980320215408.01989e88@mailhost.fyi.sas.com> X-Sender: sasrzs@mailhost.fyi.sas.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:54:08 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Randy Stoltz Subject: Re: [PDF] Errors using Adobe Acrobat Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I've run into a simiar problems with the reader recently. Reinstalling the acrobat reader fixed the problem in the 4-5 cases I've seen. At 03:42 PM 3/20/98 -0500, you wrote: > > > All, > > Everytime I am read a pdf formatted file using Adobe Acrobat, I > receive an error message with the following details: > > ACRORD32 caused an invalid page fault in > module USER32.DLL at 014f:bff64e46. > Registers: > EAX=00002008 CS=014f EIP=bff64e46 EFLGS=00010202 > EBX=00000020 SS=0157 ESP=0078ef94 EBP=0078f05c > ECX=00001557 DS=0157 ESI=01a42008 FS=2d07 > EDX=80005cc0 ES=0157 EDI=00000cb8 GS=0000 > Bytes at CS:EIP: > 66 81 39 90 68 75 25 66 81 79 06 90 68 75 1d 81 > Stack dump: > 0041a571 00001557 00000cb8 00000020 00000cd4 02000001 0078f064 > 000080d2 0078f0ae 02640000 00000000 bff40000 000000d8 00000080 > 00000000 00000006 > > > > Other info > Machine: Dell Pentium 166 > O/S: Win95 > > Can anyone advice me on what the problem is and better yet how to > solve it. > > Thanks in advance! > > Scott Jackson > sjackson@hai-net.com > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > _____________________________________________________________________ Randy Stoltz SAS Institute Inc. Senior Programmer Analyst SAS Campus Drive Training and Technical Services Dept. Cary, NC 27513 USA Professional Services Division (919) 677-8000 ext.7350 ____________________________________________________________________ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 20-Mar-1998 22:55:49-GMT,2472;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA15004 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:55:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA22765; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:24:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:23:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22704; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:23:08 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD5414.0C6581E0.john@vidcad.com> From: John Noe To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:22:50 -0700 Organization: VidCAD, Inc. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Heya People! Just a couple quick questions in case anyone is feeling guru-ish. First of all, almost every time I try to "batch optimize" any directory full of PDF's Acrobat crashes within 5 seconds. BUT not always. about 1/4 of the time it actually manages to "optimize" the directory. It also doesn't seem to matter whether I have the "optimize all subdirs" checked or not. Sometimes when Acrobat crashes it likes to take a couple other apps (web browsers or graphics progs) down with it. Hrm... I know there was something else too... Oh, I wager that there are some nice third-party apps to set (in batch) properties for a whole gaggle of PDF files (ie. "open" or "general info"), but are there any solutions for someone like myself with no budget left? I tried "Compose" (by Ambria i think?), but no matter how clean and simple of a "comma delimited text file" i tried to make, it still refused to set my "author" field and such. Thanks in advance for any help! :) John FYI - As of 3:11 PM 3/20/98 in Mesilla, New Mexico (earliest recorded "community" after Roanoke(sp?) VA) Temp=78 degrees, not a cloud in the sky. Mental condition of boss = stressed Reason = upcoming NAB show in Vegas PDF creation rate = faster than my poor HP ScanJet 4c can handle +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Mar-1998 1:26:46-GMT,2115;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA18418 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 18:26:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA28544; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 18:52:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Mar 1998 18:50:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA28439; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 18:50:28 -0600 From: "F & K Orcutt" To: Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Forms Update 3.5 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:46:10 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Message-ID: <0ffcf0051001538UPIMSSMTPUSR02@email.msn.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello to all: I'm new to the list, and relatively new to creating PDF documents. I've obtained and installed Forms Update 3.5 and used it with Exchange 3.01 to create a timesheet-style form which performs the calculations for a bi-weekly payroll. It does great in Exchange, but I was under the impression it would also perform the calculations for someone who opened the form in Reader 3.01 with the fillerus.exe forms plug-in installed. However, when I downloaded and tested the form on Reader with the plug-in (using MSIE 3.02), I was able to complete field entries but no calculations were made across rows or columns. For this test I was careful to assure no security was attached to the form. Did I mess up somewhere, or is the calculator capability limited to those who use Exchange? TIA, Fred Orcutt +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Mar-1998 3:52:49-GMT,2212;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA21289 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:52:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA00823; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:28:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:24:02 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA00665; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:24:00 -0600 X-ROUTED: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 22:24:10 -0400 X-TCP-IDENTITY: Tonymck Message-ID: <35133325.3234@imagebiz.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 22:25:25 -0500 From: Tony McKinley Organization: Intelligent Imaging X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pattymck@onix.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Indexes for the web Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Doug, Sorry for the glib answer in my last post. Here's a better answer: Weave a layer of HTML and spider-able content on your site. Use your META tags and your Titles and Headlines to mostly include Key Words, because these are the things the Big Search Indexers work on. Of course, you have to register your site everywhere, deliberately, to make a dent. Overall, get your site recognized in HTML first. Put lots of HTML description of your PDF content in the first few hundreds of characters of your pages, so people know what they are getting. Once people get to your site, they can enjoy your PDF. -- Tony McKinley Intelligent Imaging mailto:tonymck@imagebiz.com - Voice: 610.647.5570 >From Paper to Web - http://imagebiz.com/PaperWeb ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ - Internet Expert Editor's Recommended Book at AMAZON.com!!! +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Mar-1998 4:58:04-GMT,2947;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA22658 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:58:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA02932; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 22:30:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Mar 1998 22:27:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA02730; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 22:27:43 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 22:38:48 -0600 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] TOC> Emerge EXTRA 3/20/98 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ============================================================ V.03, N.09 ***Emerge EXTRA*** is now available on the Web: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/extra32098.html ============================================================ The current issue of our Acrobat PDF newsweekly features: + Bouncing NCAA Basketball PDFs - A Lesson in File Size * How much could a 1.9 MB PDF be reduced w/o quality loss? + Deja Vu All Over Again - Re-visiting NASA, IRS Web sites * Your kid on Mars in '99? Electronic fill-in tax forms? + PDF Has Its Day in the Big Apple - In Center Ring at Seybold * Interactive workflow demonstrations showcase Acrobat + Travel With Adobe Acrobat From A(lbania) to Z(aire) * Library of Congress offers country studies, pdf maps + Digital Imaging Magazine Covers, Uses Acrobat on Web Site * March PEI features Acrobat, offers tutorials in pdf + Better PDF Mousetraps - Maybe ... But Then Again, Maybe Not * Check out the pdf specs on a pair of 'inventions' + Recent Subscriber/Reader Feedback * Query: How to convert PDF to ASCII or SCS? ... and more. Past issues are available at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/ Subscribe to the email version at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html rgds~Kurt ---> T h e E m e r g e P D F z o n e <--- "Solutions for PDF Professionals" Kurt Foss Internet Communications Manager EMERGE 800/829-2459 - 608/829-3454 x102 579 D'Onofrio Dr. FAX: 608/829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 21-Mar-1998 16:54:17-GMT,2972;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06170 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 09:54:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA22921; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 10:29:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 21 Mar 1998 10:24:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA22667; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 10:24:06 -0600 Message-Id: <199803211625.IAA15832@mail2.deltanet.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat Forms Update 3.5 Date: Sat, 21 Mar 98 08:26:09 -0800 x-sender: morps@mail.deltanet.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Mike Morper To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Fred, One thing you might want to check is if you have the form-filler plug-in (the one used for the Reader) and the Form Creator plug-in (the one for Exchange) on the same system. I have been able to replicate on both Win95 and Mac OS 8 the inability to have both plug-ins co-exist happily. Basically what I found is whichever plug-in was installed last takes precedence. This deficiency sure makes it tough to "test" a document with Reader once created in Exchange. Has anyone else found this to be true also? - Mike >Hello to all: > >I'm new to the list, and relatively new to creating PDF documents. > >I've obtained and installed Forms Update 3.5 and used it with Exchange 3.01 >to create a timesheet-style form which performs the calculations for a >bi-weekly payroll. It does great in Exchange, but I was under the >impression it would also perform the calculations for someone who opened the >form in Reader 3.01 with the fillerus.exe forms plug-in installed. However, >when I downloaded and tested the form on Reader with the plug-in (using MSIE >3.02), I was able to complete field entries but no calculations were made >across rows or columns. For this test I was careful to assure no security >was attached to the form. Did I mess up somewhere, or is the calculator >capability limited to those who use Exchange? > >TIA, > >Fred Orcutt > > > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Mar-1998 20:09:27-GMT,2521;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA06484 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:09:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA11127; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:41:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:30:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA10790; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:30:21 -0600 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199803211625.IAA15832@mail2.deltanet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:41:34 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat Forms Update 3.5 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 -- from this week's Emerge EXTRA ---> http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/extra32098.html "FYI: If you need one of the Acrobat v.3.5 plugins, see the links below to download either from the Emerge PDFzone. Remember that you'll only need one or the other -- Forms Author for Exchange, or Forms-Fillin for Reader. You should NOT have BOTH installed on the same computer." Also, if you need to download the latest plugins, and/or a batch of sample PDF forms created with the new version, this issue has links to a download page on the PDFzone Web site. rgds ~ Kurt === >One thing you might want to check is if you have the form-filler plug-in >(the one used for the Reader) and the Form Creator plug-in (the one for >Exchange) on the same system. ---> T h e E m e r g e P D F z o n e <--- "Solutions for PDF Professionals" Kurt Foss Internet Communications Manager EMERGE (800)829-2459 | (608)829-3454 x102 579 D'Onofrio Drive FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - => PDF lists: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html => Emerge EXTRA: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 22-Mar-1998 21:28:07-GMT,1572;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA07954 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 14:28:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA13588; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 14:52:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 22 Mar 1998 14:46:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13351; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 14:46:24 -0600 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 14:57:37 -0600 To: PDF Mailing List From: Thomas Kaiser Subject: [PDF] Embed standard 13 fonts Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi all, is there any way to embed the standard 13 PS-Fonts into a PDF-File? An Impressed-Employee told me at the AGFA-booth (CeBIT '98) that there exists an undocumented entry in the Distiller Settings (INI-File or prefs or whatever) which would allow this. Thanks in advance for any help, Thomas Kaiser pdf@tk.muc.de +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Mar-1998 9:43:27-GMT,4117;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA20010 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 02:43:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA05661; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 03:18:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Mar 1998 03:14:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA05529; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 03:14:25 -0600 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E01F170@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "'john@vidcad.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: Automatically setting the info on PDFs Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:13:38 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 John, With reference to your second problem, I have written you a quick example of how this can be achieved using VBA - no budget required! If you go to the RTS website http://www.roundtable.com.au [click on on the plugins icon and then click the code cuts button in the left frame], you will see a new entry titled, "How to set the info fields on all of the PDFs in a folder" This 'code cut' will allow you to set any combination of the Title, Subject, Author and Keywords fields in a batch of PDFs. If you use Word 97 you can cut and paste this directly into the VBA code editor [if you need more instructions then contact me privately]. FYI, you can also copy this directly into VB5 and make an executable file - I will be posting demonstrations on the RTS website shortly. I hope this helps. regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions - SendMail with Acrobat Exchange, download RTSJoust! http://www.roundtable.com.au > -----Original Message----- > From: John Noe [SMTP:john@vidcad.com] > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 1998 8:23 AM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: > > > > Heya People! > > Just a couple quick questions in case anyone is feeling > guru-ish. First of all, almost every time I try to "batch optimize" > any directory full of PDF's Acrobat crashes within 5 seconds. > BUT not always. about 1/4 of the time it actually manages to > "optimize" the directory. It also doesn't seem to matter whether I > have > the "optimize all subdirs" checked or not. Sometimes when Acrobat > crashes it likes to take a couple other apps (web browsers or graphics > progs) > down with it. > > Hrm... I know there was something else too... > Oh, I wager that there are some nice third-party apps to set (in > batch) > properties for a whole gaggle of PDF files (ie. "open" or "general > info"), > but are there any solutions for someone like myself with no budget > left? > I tried "Compose" (by Ambria i think?), but no matter how clean and > simple > of a "comma delimited text file" i tried to make, it still refused to > set my > "author" field and such. > > Thanks in advance for any help! :) > > John > > FYI - > > As of 3:11 PM 3/20/98 in Mesilla, New Mexico (earliest recorded > "community" after Roanoke(sp?) VA) > Temp=78 degrees, not a cloud in the sky. > Mental condition of boss = stressed > Reason = upcoming NAB show in Vegas > PDF creation rate = faster than my poor HP ScanJet 4c can handle > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Mar-1998 13:41:28-GMT,2983;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23941 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 06:41:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA12113; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:12:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:07:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA11922; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:07:37 -0600 Message-Id: <199803231308.IAA03906@wally.cmcog.state.sc.us> X-Authentication-Warning: wally.cmcog.state.sc.us: smapd set sender to using -f From: "Paul Gowder" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Forms Update 3.5 Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 08:07:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <0ffcf0051001538UPIMSSMTPUSR02@email.msn.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Sorry if this is repetitive, but I missed it. Where do you get Forms Update? thanks -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of F & K Orcutt Sent: Friday, March 20, 1998 7:46 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Forms Update 3.5 Hello to all: I'm new to the list, and relatively new to creating PDF documents. I've obtained and installed Forms Update 3.5 and used it with Exchange 3.01 to create a timesheet-style form which performs the calculations for a bi-weekly payroll. It does great in Exchange, but I was under the impression it would also perform the calculations for someone who opened the form in Reader 3.01 with the fillerus.exe forms plug-in installed. However, when I downloaded and tested the form on Reader with the plug-in (using MSIE 3.02), I was able to complete field entries but no calculations were made across rows or columns. For this test I was careful to assure no security was attached to the form. Did I mess up somewhere, or is the calculator capability limited to those who use Exchange? TIA, Fred Orcutt +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Mar-1998 13:43:03-GMT,2130;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23957 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 06:43:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA12354; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:17:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:14:47 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA12212; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:14:44 -0600 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199803231308.IAA03906@wally.cmcog.state.sc.us> References: <0ffcf0051001538UPIMSSMTPUSR02@email.msn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:26:00 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Forms Update 3.5 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Where do you get Forms Update? At Adobe's Web site, or at the PDFzone ---> WEB: More PDF Forms Samples http://emerge.pdfzone.com/products/software/acroformsamples.html WEB: Acrobat v.3.5 Forms Plugins http://emerge.pdfzone.com/products/software/acroformsplugin.html rgds ~ Kurt ---> T h e E m e r g e P D F z o n e <--- "Solutions for PDF Professionals" Kurt Foss Internet Communications Manager EMERGE (800)829-2459 | (608)829-3454 x102 579 D'Onofrio Drive FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - => PDF lists: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html => Emerge EXTRA: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 23-Mar-1998 14:28:25-GMT,3832;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24809 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:28:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA13708; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:54:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:51:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA13599; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:51:53 -0600 Message-Id: <9803238906.AA890660619@houston_cc_smtp.hai-net.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R6.01.01 Date: Mon, 23 Mar 98 08:45:43 -0500 From: "Jackson Scott D." To: Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] Errors using Adobe Acrobat MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Thanks for the response. I will try this and hope it fixes my problem. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: [PDF] Errors using Adobe Acrobat Author: at internet Date: 3/20/98 4:54 PM I've run into a simiar problems with the reader recently. Reinstalling the acrobat reader fixed the problem in the 4-5 cases I've seen. At 03:42 PM 3/20/98 -0500, you wrote: > > > All, > > Everytime I am read a pdf formatted file using Adobe Acrobat, I > receive an error message with the following details: > > ACRORD32 caused an invalid page fault in > module USER32.DLL at 014f:bff64e46. > Registers: > EAX=00002008 CS=014f EIP=bff64e46 EFLGS=00010202 > EBX=00000020 SS=0157 ESP=0078ef94 EBP=0078f05c > ECX=00001557 DS=0157 ESI=01a42008 FS=2d07 > EDX=80005cc0 ES=0157 EDI=00000cb8 GS=0000 > Bytes at CS:EIP: > 66 81 39 90 68 75 25 66 81 79 06 90 68 75 1d 81 > Stack dump: > 0041a571 00001557 00000cb8 00000020 00000cd4 02000001 0078f064 > 000080d2 0078f0ae 02640000 00000000 bff40000 000000d8 00000080 > 00000000 00000006 > > > > Other info > Machine: Dell Pentium 166 > O/S: Win95 > > Can anyone advice me on what the problem is and better yet how to > solve it. > > Thanks in advance! > > Scott Jackson > sjackson@hai-net.com > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > _____________________________________________________________________ Randy Stoltz SAS Institute Inc. Senior Programmer Analyst SAS Campus Drive Training and Technical Services Dept. Cary, NC 27513 USA Professional Services Division (919) 677-8000 ext.7350 ____________________________________________________________________ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Mar-1998 4:08:07-GMT,2726;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA00892 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:07:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA17135; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:26:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:22:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA17000; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:22:23 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980324032315.00937514@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:23:15 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller Question Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I think you may want to use the "epilogue.ps" for this. Refer to the DISTILLR.PDF, Page 121, for more info. Or, there are any number of plug-ins that can do this for you, including some *free* VBA macros that have recently been discussed on this list. Tom Thiersch At 09:14 AM 3/23/98 -0500, you wrote: > > >In the Distillr directory under the directory where all Acrobat programs >are installed, there is a directory called "STARTUP". A file called >"example.ps" exists in this directory. When I read the information inside >the file, it looks to me that some PostScript commands can be put in this >file for the Distiller to use when creating PDF files. > >Is it possible to put "pdfmark" commands in this file, so that the >Distiller will use it when creating all PDF files? For example, if I want >all PDF files to have the word "author" in the Author field in the general >information area, can I use the following command in the "example.ps" file: > >[/Author (author) /DOCINFO pdfmark > >I tried this and it did not work. Can someone tell me if I should be able >to do this or not. > >Rucksapol Jiwungkul >Bellcore > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Mar-1998 4:09:58-GMT,1466;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA00933 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:09:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA17989; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:51:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:47:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA17856; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:47:39 -0600 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:58:57 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Kyung Kim" Subject: [PDF] PDF to PCX Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Does anyone know of utilities that convert PDF files to PCX files? Thank you in advance. -- Kyung H. Kim LaserFiche Document Imaging 20000 Mariner Avenue Torrance, CA 90503 Ph. 310-793-1888 x207 Fax 310-793-8531 http://www.laserfiche.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Mar-1998 4:18:43-GMT,2032;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA03472 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:18:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA13559; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:49:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:42:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA13173; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:42:04 -0600 From: rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: BELLCORE To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852565D0.004D7A45.00@notes950.cc.bellcore.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:14:14 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Distiller Question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 In the Distillr directory under the directory where all Acrobat programs are installed, there is a directory called "STARTUP". A file called "example.ps" exists in this directory. When I read the information inside the file, it looks to me that some PostScript commands can be put in this file for the Distiller to use when creating PDF files. Is it possible to put "pdfmark" commands in this file, so that the Distiller will use it when creating all PDF files? For example, if I want all PDF files to have the word "author" in the Author field in the general information area, can I use the following command in the "example.ps" file: [/Author (author) /DOCINFO pdfmark I tried this and it did not work. Can someone tell me if I should be able to do this or not. Rucksapol Jiwungkul Bellcore +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Mar-1998 4:55:49-GMT,2273;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA28692 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:55:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA19136; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:26:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:23:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA19015; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:22:59 -0600 X-Sender: mmccombs@mail.interlog.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:27:18 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: mmccombs@interlog.com (Murray McCombs) Subject: [PDF] Email Attachment PDF's Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello all, I'm new to the list. I been conducting a test with over 40 different testers, using different system platforms, E-mail applications, and ISPs. THE TEST: I created an Illustrator PDF file using Acrobat Distiller 3.0. My email program was Eudora, and the attachment encoding method was BINHEX. THE RESULT: Approx 80% of the testers experienced no problems in opening the attached PDF file with either Acrobat Reader 2.1 or 3.0 20% experienced the error message. 2 testers received the error behind a firewall, but were able to open the PDF by "showing all files" 1 tester received the error, but moved the file through his LANS from a Win95 system to Macintosh. The file then was able to be viewed. All 5 testers with AOL as their ISP received ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:48:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA22215; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 00:13:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 00:09:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA22071; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 00:09:52 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 23 Mar 98 22:10 PST From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: (kkim@laserfiche.com) Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF to PCX Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Does anyone know of utilities that convert PDF files to PCX files? Aladdin Ghostscript will do it, and it's free. See the URL below. Since it's a "command line" application, you can drive it relatively easily in batch mode if you want to. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html *Oppose bulk-mail abuse of your mailbox and newsgroups: http://spam.abuse.net* +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Mar-1998 9:47:36-GMT,2722;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA18755 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 02:47:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA27018; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 03:16:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 03:12:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA26895; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 03:12:00 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD5704.FEB67CE0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller Question Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:59:26 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 No, you can put setdistillerparam operators - these set attributes. pdfmark operators are "single use" and have to go in each job. Aandi On Monday, 23 March, 1998 14:14, rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com [SMTP:rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com] wrote: > > > In the Distillr directory under the directory where all Acrobat programs > are installed, there is a directory called "STARTUP". A file called > "example.ps" exists in this directory. When I read the information inside > the file, it looks to me that some PostScript commands can be put in this > file for the Distiller to use when creating PDF files. > > Is it possible to put "pdfmark" commands in this file, so that the > Distiller will use it when creating all PDF files? For example, if I want > all PDF files to have the word "author" in the Author field in the general > information area, can I use the following command in the "example.ps" file: > > [/Author (author) /DOCINFO pdfmark > > I tried this and it did not work. Can someone tell me if I should be able > to do this or not. > > Rucksapol Jiwungkul > Bellcore > > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Mar-1998 12:17:45-GMT,3253;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA00511 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 05:17:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA30462; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 05:36:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 05:30:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA30297; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 05:30:50 -0600 Message-ID: <8Lc39PA6f5F1Ewzc@merlin-os.co.uk> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:24:42 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David R Evans Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller Question In-Reply-To: <01BD5704.FEB67CE0.quite@dial.pipex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03a Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Monday, 23 March, 1998 14:14, rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com [SMTP:rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com] wrote: > In the Distillr directory under the directory where all Acrobat programs > are installed, there is a directory called "STARTUP". A file called > "example.ps" exists in this directory. When I read the information inside > the file, it looks to me that some PostScript commands can be put in this > file for the Distiller to use when creating PDF files. > > Is it possible to put "pdfmark" commands in this file, so that the > Distiller will use it when creating all PDF files? For example, if I want > all PDF files to have the word "author" in the Author field in the general > information area, can I use the following command in the "example.ps" file: > [/Author (author) /DOCINFO pdfmark No, you should put defaults for Distiller in a PostScript file (like example.ps) in the Startup directory. This can control things such as default page size and font embedding. If you want to set things for each job you can use prologue.ps and epilogue.ps which get prepended and appended to the job being processed. This will enable you to use the pdfmark command that you want. The prologue.ps/epilogue.ps functionality can be turned on from Distiller's job options dialogue. The files themselves usually go in the same directory as Distiller itself (e.g. \acrobat3\distillr), but can also go in watched directories. See pages 121 onwards in the Acrobat 3.0 Distiller On-line Guide. David --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr David R Evans Telephone: (+44) 115 9860048 Merlin Open Systems (+44) 115 9514230 P O Box 230 E-mail: dre@merlin-os.co.uk NOTTINGHAM WWW: http://www.merlin-os.co.uk/ NG2 1LJ, UK Acrobat resellers, specialists in Adobe Acrobat plug-ins and electronic publishing software, publishers of Acrobatics +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Mar-1998 15:20:32-GMT,1722;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA04036 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:20:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA04856; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:52:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:48:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA04639; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:48:34 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:12:25 -0500 Message-ID: <000A1C66.@doim6.monmouth.army.mil> From: fitch@doim6.monmouth.army.mil (Martin Fitch) Subject: [PDF] Multipage TIFF to PDF To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hope someone can help... We received multipage-TIFF files which supposedly contain entire manuals. Would appreciate recommendations about software for viewing/editing the images as they are now, and for separating into single page images for Capturing. Are there any other ways to get the mtiff to pdf? Thanks, Martin Fitch US Army CECOM Ft. Monmouth, NJ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Mar-1998 16:43:26-GMT,1681;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06302 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:43:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA08741; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:09:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:07:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08615; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:07:19 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980324170758.00695c6c@pop.vatican.va> X-Sender: vati090@pop.vatican.va X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:07:58 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Piero Di Domenicantonio Subject: [PDF] Installation program for pdf document to cd-rom Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have made a pdf document in CD-ROM. In each Peronal Computer the CD-ROM have a unique logical letter (D, E, F etc.). I need an installation program (freeware) for Windows 3.x and/or WIN95 that recognizes automatically the logical letter of CD-ROM and creates a Group and an Icon with the following proprieties: logicaldrive:\home_pag.pdf Tank Piero +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Mar-1998 16:55:19-GMT,2619;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06654 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:55:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA10378; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:43:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:42:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10305; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:42:28 -0600 X-Sender: gcosimin@mail-345 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <001601bd20ef$acc36100$4bccd8cd@fidnet.fidnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:43:11 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Gary Cosimini Subject: Re: [PDF] embed all fonts/subset fonts Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >Don't know if this is Mac specific or not (but I'm not taking any chances >in this platform-assertive era). > >Can someone help clarify for me the difference between checking embed all >fonts and embed subset as opposed to NOT checking embed all fonts and YES >checking embed subsets? The latter gives smaller files. > >More to the point, if I embed subsets (but not check embed all fonts) and I >take the file to another machine, will it still print properly. > >TIA, I'm a little confused by this distinction. I believe that, if Embed Subsets is selected while Embed All is not, only fonts which cannot be "fauxed using Multiple Masters _or_ fonts in the Always Embed Font list will be embedded. Subsetted in either case. Distiller determines which fonts cannot be "fauxed" by sampling character glyphs against those in standard Type One fonts. Fonts that fail this test (Carta would be an example) are always embedded. If subsetting were turned off the entire Carta font would be embedded. This is Distiller's default behavior. The unusual setting of Embed Off/Subset On might be used when trying to create minimal size PDFs with using font substitution on most typefaces. Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Mar-1998 17:24:55-GMT,2353;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07393 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:24:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA11039; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:55:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:54:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10949; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:54:28 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980323090453.006a57a0@istar.ca> X-Sender: ltm@istar.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:52:31 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Lindsey Thomas Martin Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF inside netscape font problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 07:21 PM 3/20/98 MEZ, you wrote: > >I use Acrobat 3.01 on HPUX with Netscape 3.0 and 4.0 browsers. >When I few a PDF with imbedded fonts inside Netscape, the font does >not display correctly, only small black dots appear. > >When I view the same PDF with acroread or acroexch, it gets displayed >correctly. > >What am I doing wrong - or is this a general problem? I have had this problem using a PC and Netscape 3.0. The PDF file works fine on the PC using acroread and also when I view it from the same website with Netscape 3.0 on my Mac at home. The problem seems to be transient and I have never been able to track down a cause. When I asked on the list last year, a few others had seen the problem but no one had any solutions. I was using Truetype fonts and I suspect that the cause my ultimately lie there. Lindsey Martin (Mr) Lindsey Thomas Martin, Publication Production The Fraser Institute http://www.fraserinstitute.ca 2nd floor, 626 Bute Street, Vancouver BC V6E 3M1 Canada Tel: (604) 688-0221 x335 Fax: (604) 688-8539 mailto:ltm@istar.ca +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Mar-1998 17:28:46-GMT,2306;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07506 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:28:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA11286; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:01:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:59:47 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA11182; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:59:45 -0600 Message-ID: <3517E67D.1A986909@glyphica.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:59:41 -0800 From: "D. Paknad" Organization: Glyphica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Multipage TIFF to PDF References: <000A1C66.@doim6.monmouth.army.mil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Martin - Multi-page TIFFs can be "imported" into Acrobat Exchange and viewed as multi-page documents very simply. Under the Acrobat File menu->Import. Save As and you're finished. (There was lots of discussion of this last week on the list ... check the digest version for other comments.) Have fun, Deidre Paknad ........................................... Glyphica Acrobat & Web Publishing http://www.glyphica.com PurePDF: The Acrobat Info Source on the Web http://www.PurePDF.com ........................................... Martin Fitch wrote: > Hope someone can help... > > We received multipage-TIFF files which supposedly contain entire > manuals. > > Would appreciate recommendations about software for viewing/editing > the images as they are now, and for separating into single page images > for Capturing. > > Are there any other ways to get the mtiff to pdf? > > Thanks, > > Martin Fitch > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Mar-1998 17:33:03-GMT,1674;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07614 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:33:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA11997; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:17:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:14:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA11836; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:14:50 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980324191807.009672b0@julius.ktl.mii.lt> X-Sender: sarunas@julius.ktl.mii.lt X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:18:07 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Sarunas Subject: [PDF] Batch optimisation automation? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello, I would like to automate optimisation and thumbnail generation procedure in Windows NT. Has anybody already tried this? 1. Is 'batch optimise' function available in Exchange also as from OLE server? 2. ...or as a command line option? Thanks! Sarunas Burdulis VTEX Typesetting and Electronic Publishing sarunas@ktl.mii.lt +370 2 729609; +370 98 24498 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Mar-1998 17:33:49-GMT,1954;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07642 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:33:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA11941; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:16:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:12:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA11756; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:12:48 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD5748.2CFA39A0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF printer driver Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:06:36 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I assume you don't have the Acrobat 3.0 commercial package. It contains PDFWriter, which is just the printer driver you describe. Aandi On Tuesday, 24 March, 1998 16:37, Nicholas G. Koopman Jr. [SMTP:Nick@valleyconsultants.com] wrote: > > Hello PDF world, > > An application I have creates nice reports with text & graphics. > These reports can not be saved as files, or cut and pasted into other > apps. They can only be printed. Other than printing them and then > scanning them in, does anyone know of a driver that looks like a printer > diver that instead of printing what is sent to it, saves it as a local > PDF file? +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Mar-1998 18:52:41-GMT,1804;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA09719 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:52:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA15235; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:32:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:28:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15008; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:28:15 -0600 Message-ID: <3517FB91.C1F07B31@ValleyConsultants.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:29:37 -0500 From: "Nicholas G. Koopman Jr." X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF printer driver Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello PDF world, I'm sending this a second time because I'm not sure if it was posted the first time. Sorry for any inconvenience. An application I have creates nice reports with text & graphics. These reports can not be saved as files, or cut and pasted into other apps. They can only be printed. Other than printing them and then scanning them in, does anyone know of a driver that looks like a printer diver that instead of printing what is sent to it, saves it as a local PDF file? Thanks, Nick +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Mar-1998 18:53:11-GMT,3688;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA09737 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:53:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA15234; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:32:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:28:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA14975; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:28:05 -0600 From: Steve.Evanina@Sciatl.COM Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [PDF] Multipage TIFF to PDF Message-id: <01IV1O31DEIY001IGK@ALPHA.CORP.SCIATL.COM> X-Envelope-to: fitch@doim6.monmouth.army.mil, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="Boundary (ID +iT6tTY7FFGBX1ZkRdNf5A)" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT To: fitch@doim6.monmouth.army.mil, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 --Boundary (ID +iT6tTY7FFGBX1ZkRdNf5A) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN I use Paperport Deluxe by visioneer. It will do what you ask. steve.evanina@sciatl.com ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: [PDF] Multipage TIFF to PDF Author: fitch@doim6.monmouth.army.mil at PMDF Date: 3/24/98 9:12 AM Hope someone can help... We received multipage-TIFF files which supposedly contain entire manuals. Would appreciate recommendations about software for viewing/editing the images as they are now, and for separating into single page images for Capturing. Are there any other ways to get the mtiff to pdf? Thanks, Martin Fitch US Army CECOM Ft. Monmouth, NJ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ --Boundary (ID +iT6tTY7FFGBX1ZkRdNf5A) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Received: from 192.168.190.1 by ALPHA.CORP.SCIATL.COM (PMDF V4.3-13 #7203) id <01IV1GYSBIKG001CX0@ALPHA.CORP.SCIATL.COM>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:58:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from [208.155.48.8] by gatekeeper.sciatl.com for id KAA24587; Tue Mar 24 10:05:34 1998 Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA04763; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:50:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:48:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA04639; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:48:34 -0600 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:12:25 -0500 From: fitch@doim6.monmouth.army.mil (Martin Fitch) Subject: [PDF] Multipage TIFF to PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Reply-to: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: <000A1C66.@doim6.monmouth.army.mil> X-Envelope-to: "Evanina, Steve%ESG-ENG"@ccmail.corp.sciatl.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-description: cc:Mail note part Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit --Boundary (ID +iT6tTY7FFGBX1ZkRdNf5A)-- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Mar-1998 19:28:52-GMT,1615;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA10557 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:28:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA16835; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:09:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:08:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16773; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:08:41 -0600 X-Sender: mmccombs@mail.interlog.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:13:04 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: mmccombs@interlog.com (Murray McCombs) Subject: [PDF] RE: PDF Printer driver Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 If reference to your request: < does anyone know of a driver that looks like a printer diver that instead of printing what is sent to it, saves it as a local PDF file?> In most of my applications, when I send a file to print, the print dialogue box has an option to choose destination to "Printer" or to "File". I'm not sure if this is what you are asking? Murray +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Mar-1998 19:29:08-GMT,3103;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA10568 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:29:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA16702; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:07:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:04:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16568; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:04:41 -0600 X-Sender: mmccombs@mail.interlog.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:09:02 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: mmccombs@interlog.com (Murray McCombs) Subject: [PDF] EMAIL PDFs as attachments Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello all, I received this reply from an Adobe Engineer. I beleive there is no "Uniform" soultion to eamil PDF attachments. Too many variables. Cheers Murray McCombs mmccombs@interlog.com "The attachment came through fine for me, it's a very nice map. I had no problem viewing the file on my PC. However, I can see a few areas for incompatibility. First is the size of the file (253k). That might be choking some email clients. There is usually a pref where the user can define the largest file their client will accept. If this is set to 200k, the file may be arriving clipped. Second is that it is coming from a Mac in Mac BinHex. He might try resending the file from the Mac in Ascii format instead of MacBinary. Third is that there are several email clients on the market. Some do only Mime or UUencode/decode, some have to be manually set to to the correct format. Seeing that he sent this BinHex, perhaps he could try Uuencode for those problem connections. The newer versions are getting better doing this. If his family members upgrade their email clients, they may get better results. I am using Netscape 4.04 for email and it works quite well. Eudora usually behaves well cross-platform also. Last, but not least, make sure that the recipients are using the Acrobat 3.0 reader. In a nutshell, lack of unified standards, version control and crossplatform email problems can make it tough to share files via email. He is not alone in suffering with this problem. he should be methodical about his test. If possible do testing with a much smaller file. He can still use the same setup to create his PDF file, just shrink it down. Then he should try, with a patient family member, changing one setting at a time until he has success. Unfortunately, given the above mentioned variables, success with one does not mean success with all." +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Mar-1998 19:31:19-GMT,2841;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA10600 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:31:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA16888; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:10:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:09:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16816; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:09:30 -0600 Message-ID: <35180EF8.41390516@glyphica.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:52:24 -0800 From: "D. Paknad" Organization: Glyphica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF printer driver References: <3517FB91.C1F07B31@ValleyConsultants.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Nick - You need Acrobat 3.0 (not the free Reader) ... it does exactly what you are describing. PDFWriter installs as a printer driver, and you simply select it in the print dialog of whatever application you are using. It will prompt you for a file name and location to save the PDF file. You can buy it from Emerge or any of the hundreds of mail-order software outlets. Cheers, Deidre Paknad .......................................... Glyphica Acrobat & Web Publishing http://www.glyphica.com PurePDF: The Acrobat Info Source on the Web http://www.PurePDF.com .......................................... Nicholas G. Koopman Jr. wrote: > Hello PDF world, > > I'm sending this a second time because I'm not sure if it was posted > the first time. Sorry for any inconvenience. > > An application I have creates nice reports with text & graphics. > These reports can not be saved as files, or cut and pasted into other > apps. They can only be printed. Other than printing them and then > scanning them in, does anyone know of a driver that looks like a printer > diver that instead of printing what is sent to it, saves it as a local > PDF file? > > Thanks, > Nick > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Mar-1998 20:32:06-GMT,1879;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12298 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:32:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA18929; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:52:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:47:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA18687; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:47:13 -0600 Subject: Re: [PDF] EMAIL PDFs as attachments Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:52:41 -0700 x-sender: dennisw@mail.inpractice.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Dennis Walker To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1321378737-11177354@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Murray McCombs (mmccombs@interlog.com) wrote on 3/24/98 11:09 AM: >I received this reply from an Adobe Engineer. I beleive there is no >"Uniform" soultion to eamil PDF attachments. Too many variables. I seem to recall a lengthy thread about this a couple months ago. I believe the bottom line recommendation was NOT to compress and to use Base64 encoding. This recipe provided the most cross-platform friendliness. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Mar-1998 22:12:05-GMT,2085;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA14900 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:12:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA24723; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:45:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:44:02 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA24607; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:44:00 -0600 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:46:21 +0100 To: Acrobat list posting , PDF List Posting From: Max Wyss Subject: [PDF] Is there an ImportForm JavaScript Doc Object Method Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Is there an ImportForm JavaScript doc object method in JavaScript? The JavaScript help document (AcroJS.pdf) does show a SubmitForm method, but I can't find the reverse. What I am looking for is a function in which depending on a calculation a specific FDF file is imported. Example: if (Thingie_Color.value == "green") { importForm("GREEN.FDF") } else { ImportForm("RED.FDF") } Is there a way to do this? Any hints are very much appreciated. Thanks in advance. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Phone: +41 1 700 29 21 Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Mar-1998 22:54:38-GMT,3165;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA15903 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:54:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA26757; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:27:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:25:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA26681; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:25:34 -0600 Message-ID: From: Robert Porter To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" , Acrobat list posting Subject: RE: [PDF] Is there an ImportForm JavaScript Doc Object Method Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:26:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Actually, what you need to do is do a submitForm("fillGreen.xxx#FDF") where fillGreen.xxx is a page on the web server that returns the FDF with a mime type of application/vnd.fdf I use ASP to deliver my FDF. You can use CGI if you need to. Yes, the submitForm is the right function. The #FDF tells Acrobat to expect FDF to be sent back from the server. robert porter applications developer renaissanceinteractive > -----Original Message----- > From: Max Wyss [SMTP:prodok@prodok.ch] > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 1998 4:46 PM > To: Acrobat list posting; PDF List Posting > Subject: [PDF] Is there an ImportForm JavaScript Doc Object > Method > > > Is there an ImportForm JavaScript doc object method in JavaScript? The > JavaScript help document (AcroJS.pdf) does show a SubmitForm method, > but I > can't find the reverse. > > What I am looking for is a function in which depending on a > calculation a > specific FDF file is imported. > > Example: > > if (Thingie_Color.value == "green") { > importForm("GREEN.FDF") > } else { > ImportForm("RED.FDF") > } > > Is there a way to do this? > > Any hints are very much appreciated. > > Thanks in advance. > > > Max Wyss > PRODOK Engineering AG > Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing > CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland > > Phone: +41 1 700 29 21 > Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 > e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com > > > > Bridging the Knowledge Gap > > > > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Mar-1998 21:24:22-GMT,3305;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13873 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:24:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA21974; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:55:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:52:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA21832; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:52:11 -0600 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:52:46 -0500 From: olaf druemmer Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller Question To: PDF listserver Message-ID: <199803241553_MC2-37D0-E15B@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id OAA21829 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dear Rucksapol Jiwungkul, you could (ab-) use prologue.ps to do this - it is processed with every file that is distilled. ATTENTION: you have to make sure the file is located 'besides' Distiller (that is same directory) and you have to turn 'Use prolouge.ps/epilogue.ps' on in Advanced options for Distiller Job options. Olaf Druemmer > > >No, you can put setdistillerparam operators - these set attributes. >pdfmark operators are "single use" and have to go in each job. > >Aandi > >On Monday, 23 March, 1998 14:14, rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com >[SMTP:rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com] wrote: >> >> >> In the Distillr directory under the directory where all Acrobat programs >> are installed, there is a directory called "STARTUP". A file called >> "example.ps" exists in this directory. When I read the information inside >> the file, it looks to me that some PostScript commands can be put in this >> file for the Distiller to use when creating PDF files. >> >> Is it possible to put "pdfmark" commands in this file, so that the >> Distiller will use it when creating all PDF files? For example, if I want >> all PDF files to have the word "author" in the Author field in the general >> information area, can I use the following command in the "example.ps" file: >> >> [/Author (author) /DOCINFO pdfmark >> >> I tried this and it did not work. Can someone tell me if I should be able >> to do this or not. >> >> Rucksapol Jiwungkul >> Bellcore ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Mar-1998 21:25:43-GMT,1747;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13902 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:25:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA22713; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:08:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:07:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22591; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:07:13 -0600 Message-ID: <351820CC.54EFF59E@beacon.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:08:28 -0500 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Printer driver References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > < does anyone know of a driver that looks like a printer > diver that instead of printing what is sent to it, saves it as a local > PDF file?> If you really are looking for a free solution, then you could print a PostScript file and use ps2pdf from Aladdin. This would be an alternative to the Distiller, which comes with the commercial Acrobat 3.0 package. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 24-Mar-1998 17:25:02-GMT,2467;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07403 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:25:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA11559; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:07:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:06:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA11498; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:06:49 -0600 Message-Id: <98Mar24.091545pst.12547@cerberus.laserfiche.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:13:58 -0800 From: "Kyung Kim" Organization: LaserFiche Document Imaging X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en]C-DIAL (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF to PCX References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Peter, Thank you. -Kyung L. Peter Deutsch wrote: > > Does anyone know of utilities that convert PDF files to PCX files? > > Aladdin Ghostscript will do it, and it's free. See the URL below. Since > it's a "command line" application, you can drive it relatively easily in > batch mode if you want to. > > -- > > L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com > 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 > Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html > *Oppose bulk-mail abuse of your mailbox and newsgroups: http://spam.abuse.net* > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- Kyung H. Kim LaserFiche Document Imaging 20000 Mariner Avenue Torrance, CA 90503 Ph. 310-793-1888 x207 Fax 310-793-8531 http://www.laserfiche.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Mar-1998 9:42:03-GMT,2432;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA02576 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 02:42:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA15344; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 03:17:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 03:09:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA15002; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 03:09:24 -0600 Message-ID: <3518CA0F.21ED5092@neuro.ki.se> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:10:39 +0100 From: Virgil Stokes X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Font substitution control? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I recently received a Postscript file that was generated on a Macintosh system. Using Ghostview I was able to display this file with no problems. However, when I distilled the file with Abobe Acrobat 3.01 there was a problem with the PDF file generated -- many of the lines were truncated. This appears to be due to an unwise font substitution; i.e., some missing PostScript fonts (in the original PostScript file) were replaced by Courier. Courier is a fixed width font and it was used to replace a variable width font (see *.LOG file below). I believe that it was this bad choice of font substitution that caused the truncated lines. This is the contents of the *.LOG file generated from the Distiller: TimesNewRomanPSMT not found, using Courier. TimesNewRomanPS-ItalicMT not found, using Courier. My question is -- Can I change the font that is used for this font substitution? -- VPS *************************************************** V. Stokes, Ph.D. ---------> Quality Has No Fear BMC, Neuroscience of Time Karolinska Institute SWEDEN *************************************************** +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Mar-1998 9:48:25-GMT,1538;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA02706 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 02:48:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA15921; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 03:34:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 03:30:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA15821; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 03:30:25 -0600 Message-Id: <3518CEF6.28D49297@iil.intel.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:31:35 +0200 From: Arnon Meshoulam Organization: Intel Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Batch/Command-line optimizing of PDF files Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, I would like to optimize PDF files from command line. Is this available in any platform? -- Arnon Meshoulam Intel IDC Haifa Israel Tel: (972)-4-8655210 Fax: (972)-4-8655674 Email: meshulam@iil.intel.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Mar-1998 12:26:43-GMT,2868;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA05521 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 05:26:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA19520; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 05:55:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 05:52:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA19398; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 05:51:58 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD57E4.8342E040.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Font substitution control? Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:48:59 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Wednesday, 25 March, 1998 09:11, Virgil Stokes [SMTP:virgil.stokes@neuro.ki.se] wrote: > > I recently received a Postscript file that was generated on > a Macintosh system. Using Ghostview I was able to display > this file with no problems. However, when I distilled the > file with Abobe Acrobat 3.01 there was a problem with > the PDF file generated -- many of the lines were truncated. > > This appears to be due to an unwise font substitution; i.e., > some missing PostScript fonts (in the original PostScript file) > were replaced by Courier. Courier is a fixed width font and > it was used to replace a variable width font (see *.LOG > file below). I believe that it was this bad choice of > font substitution that caused the truncated lines. > > This is the contents of the *.LOG file generated from the > Distiller: > > TimesNewRomanPSMT not found, using Courier. > TimesNewRomanPS-ItalicMT not found, using Courier. > > My question is -- Can I change the font that is used > for this font substitution? No, you can't, at least not by any direct route. A missing font is a serious error, and represents a PostScript file that is, basically, wrong. Printing it would give the same results, usually. That said, TimesNewRomanPSMT is likely to be a very good match for Times-Roman while TimesNewRomanPS-ItalicMT is likely to be a match for Times-Italic. A simple text replace on the PostScript file might do the trick. Otherwise, some devious PostScript tricks in prologue.ps might serve to equate the fonts. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Mar-1998 12:29:10-GMT,1616;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA05561 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 05:29:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA20188; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 06:15:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 06:11:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA20012; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 06:11:28 -0600 From: rjiwungk@notes.cc.bellcore.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: BELLCORE To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852565D2.0042D8F5.00@notes950.cc.bellcore.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:10:39 -0500 Subject: [PDF] GhostView Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We used to use GhostView to view PostScript files in the past. However, the old version of GhostView on UNIX sometimes did not display some PostScript files correctly because some fonts might be missing. I have seen the new version of GhostView running under Windows that can view either PostScript and PDF files. Can someone tell me how good it is? Thanks, Rucksapol Jiwungkul Bellcore +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Mar-1998 13:03:29-GMT,2509;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06159 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 06:03:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA21013; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 06:38:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 06:35:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA20890; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 06:35:21 -0600 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E01F1D4@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "'sarunas@ktl.mii.lt'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Batch optimisation automation? Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:34:37 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Sarunas, As I have mentioned to Arnon, you can download an evaluation edition of RTSThumbOpt from the RTS website [see below]. regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions - SendMail with Acrobat Exchange, download RTSJoust! http://www.roundtable.com.au > -----Original Message----- > From: Sarunas [SMTP:sarunas@ktl.mii.lt] > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 4:18 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Batch optimisation automation? > > > Hello, > I would like to automate optimisation and thumbnail generation > procedure in > Windows NT. Has anybody already tried this? > 1. Is 'batch optimise' function available in Exchange also as from OLE > server? > 2. ...or as a command line option? > Thanks! > > Sarunas Burdulis > VTEX Typesetting and Electronic Publishing > sarunas@ktl.mii.lt > +370 2 729609; +370 98 24498 > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Mar-1998 13:08:29-GMT,2644;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06248 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 06:08:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA20979; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 06:37:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 06:33:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA20802; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 06:33:34 -0600 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E01F1D3@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Batch/Command-line optimizing of PDF files Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:32:49 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Arnon, You can download an evaluation version of RTSThumbOpt from the RTS website http://www.roundtable.com.au for Windows NT 4.0 and 95. This is a command line application which creates thumbnails and optimises PDFs. Usage examples: RTSThumbOpt c:\acrobat3 processes all PDF documents in the c:\acrobat3 folder RTSThumbOpt c:\acrobat3 /r processes all PDF documents in the c:\acrobat3 folder AND all subfolders regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions - SendMail with Acrobat Exchange, download RTSJoust! http://www.roundtable.com.au > -----Original Message----- > From: Arnon Meshoulam [SMTP:meshulam@iil.intel.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 8:32 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Batch/Command-line optimizing of PDF files > > > Hi, > > I would like to optimize PDF files from command line. Is this > available > in any platform? > > -- > Arnon Meshoulam > Intel IDC > Haifa Israel > > Tel: (972)-4-8655210 > Fax: (972)-4-8655674 > Email: meshulam@iil.intel.com > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists > + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Mar-1998 16:01:55-GMT,1744;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA09867 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:01:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA28547; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:24:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:19:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA28200; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:19:16 -0600 Message-ID: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA271302F4@MARS> From: "Schiff, Kenny" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, Acrobat Talk Mailing List Subject: [PDF] Basic Watermarking? Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:15:55 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I need to take a collection of docs that were originally formatted for printout on letterhead and create PDFs of them. Is there any easy way to after the fact batch process these docs and merge the equivalent of letterhead on each page 1. I can easily create the appropriate graphic file to stick behind the copy. Any ideas? Kenny Schiff Director Corporate Communications Rauland-Borg Corporation http://www.rauland.com kenny.schiff@rauland.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Mar-1998 16:05:59-GMT,2917;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10003 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:05:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA30000; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:39:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:36:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29583; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:36:04 -0600 From: "Mike Dowden" To: Subject: [PDF] separate pdf files Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:36:56 -0500 Message-Id: <01bd5803$d7ee3260$6601a8c0@mdowden.dayton.oneil.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0103_01BD57D9.EF182A60" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0103_01BD57D9.EF182A60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I must first apologize for asking this again, because I'm certain the = answer has appeared here before. What plug-in or third party software are folks using to string separate = pdf files into one great big one? =20 =20 Mike Dowden www.oneil.com mdowden@oneil.com ------=_NextPart_000_0103_01BD57D9.EF182A60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I must first apologize for asking = this again,=20 because I'm certain the answer has appeared here before.
What plug-in or third party software are folks using = to string=20 separate pdf files into one great big one?
 
 
Mike Dowden
mdowden@oneil.com
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X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: internet@sce.com Subject: [PDF] PDF's not rendering in Netscape.... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello! This is my first message to this forum. We are experiencing a weird problem lately with PDF's. What is supposed to happen is that when we click on a hyperlink to a PDF in Netscape, the Acrobat Reader loads and minimizes itself, and the PDF content renders itself in the browser window (using the Acrobat Reader plug-in DLL). This was working fine until the last few weeks...now it loads & minimizes the Reader, but nothing renders in Netscape (it is blank). If we visit another web page and use the BACK button, we can sometimes get it to display, but not initially. Not sure why this is happening all of a sudden. The only thing we have done lately is upgrade Netscape Enterprise Server from 2.x to 3.x (A/IX). Appreciate hearing from any of you that have also seen this, and what we can do about it. Blessings! :-> +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Mar-1998 17:04:37-GMT,2301;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11388 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:04:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA00360; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:29:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:27:05 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00197; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:27:02 -0600 Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:27:58 -0500 From: olaf druemmer Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Printer driver To: PDF listserver Message-ID: <199803251128_MC2-37EF-91AC@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA00192 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 5D from UK are supposed to now have 'NikNak' (close to?) shipping? Olaf Druemmer > > >> < does anyone know of a driver that looks like a printer >> diver that instead of printing what is sent to it, saves it as a local >> PDF file?> > >If you really are looking for a free solution, then you could print a >PostScript >file and use ps2pdf from Aladdin. This would be an alternative to the >Distiller, which comes with the commercial Acrobat 3.0 package. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 gzm-connect +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Mar-1998 17:04:46-GMT,1911;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11401 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:04:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA01401; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:41:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:40:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01232; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:40:30 -0600 Message-Id: <199803251640.KAA01217@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] separate pdf files Date: Wed, 25 Mar 98 11:44:20 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Mark Gavin To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 [Mike Dowden wrote on 3/25/98 10:36 AM] >I must first apologize for asking this again, because I'm certain the >answer has appeared here before. >What plug-in or third party software are folks using to string separate >pdf files into one great big one? > > >Mike Dowden >www.oneil.com >mdowden@oneil.com > Mike, We have an applications called AppendPDF for appending large numbers of PDF files into one PDF file. More information can be found on our web site at http://www.digapp.com. Mark Gavin Vice President Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA, USA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 mgavin@DigApp.com http://www.DigApp.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Mar-1998 17:06:52-GMT,1557;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11474 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:06:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA01458; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:42:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:41:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01352; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:41:36 -0600 Message-Id: <9029AADD5E6AD111A22C0060084129452A0911@DC02> From: Nelson Phil To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] AFP Overlays Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:40:55 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I do not know if the following has been addressed, but here goes. We're looking at ways of taking our PDF documents and trying to use them as AFP overlays for printing on mainframes. Is there a way to convert PDF to AFP overlays? Or what product to we need to look at? Phil Nelson Computer Specialist IRS Information Systems +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Mar-1998 17:39:42-GMT,2451;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12351 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:39:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA03536; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:14:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:08:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03044; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:08:46 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD57CE.1DA257E0@istk-port1387.jps.net> From: Karl Schmidtmann To: "'acrobat@blueworld.com'" , "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] FW: Basic Watermarking? Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:12:11 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA03040 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Kenny: Ambia's Compose product has a module that does just what you ask. The overlay tool will merge a one page PDF, either on top of, or beneath, a second. It can be configured to do this in batch mode. More information about Compose, and a downloadable evaluation copy, can be found on our Web site (www.ambia.com). Or you can call me directly. Karl Schmidtmann Ambia 707-829-7500 ---------- From: Schiff, Kenny[SMTP:Kenny.Schiff@Rauland.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 7:15 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; Acrobat Talk Mailing List Subject: Basic Watermarking? I need to take a collection of docs that were originally formatted for printout on letterhead and create PDFs of them. Is there any easy way to after the fact batch process these docs and merge the equivalent of letterhead on each page 1. I can easily create the appropriate graphic file to stick behind the copy. Any ideas? Kenny Schiff Director Corporate Communications Rauland-Borg Corporation http://www.rauland.com kenny.schiff@rauland.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Mar-1998 17:42:07-GMT,2878;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12403 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:42:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA03537; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:14:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:05:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02765; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:05:22 -0600 Message-Id: <199803251706.JAA16263@mail-gw.pacbell.net> X-Sender: zsoos@pacbell.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:01:31 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Zoltan Soos Subject: Re: [PDF] separate pdf files In-Reply-To: <01bd5803$d7ee3260$6601a8c0@mdowden.dayton.oneil.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 3/25/98, you wrote:
I must first apologize for askin= g this again, because I'm certain the answer has appeared here before.
What plug-in or third party software are folks using to string separate pdf files into one great big one?
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Mike, you mean combine, yes? If so:

1. Open Exchange, resize say to 1/4 screen size
2. From Windows Explorer (or similar) drag'n drop your PDF files to be combined over the Exchange window
3. A page control dialog will come up (if a file already open), select your choice
4. Save the combined file

Zoltan

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Mike Dowden
www.oneil.com
mdowden@oneil.com


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http://elan-gmk.com http://pixedit.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Mar-1998 17:42:37-GMT,4780;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12416 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:42:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA03707; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:16:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:13:02 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03384; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:12:58 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD57CE.BA172380@istk-port1387.jps.net> From: Karl Schmidtmann To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] separate pdf files Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:16:40 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD57CE.BA1EC4A0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD57CE.BA1EC4A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike: Ambia's Compose product has a Document Composer module which streamlines = the creation of collections of PDF files into a single document. More = information about Compose, and an evaluation version for downloading, = can be found on our Web site (www.ambia.com). Or you can contact me = directly. Karl Schmidtmann Ambia 707-829-7500 ---------- From: Mike Dowden[SMTP:mdowden@oneil.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 7:36 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] separate pdf files I must first apologize for asking this again, because I'm certain the = answer has appeared here before. 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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >From the Acro Reader Install ReadMe: When using keyboard navigation while viewing a PDF document in Continuous or Continuous -Facing Pages modes, the document image may occasionally disappear. If this occurs you can use the toolbar navigation buttons to restore your image. And: Some pages of PDF files may appear blank when viewed within Web browsers. Users can view such PDF files by saving a copy locally.Webmasters may need to update their server to the latest version (for more information see http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/byteserve.html). HTH Rick Bishop +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Mar-1998 19:11:57-GMT,1890;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA14666 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:11:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA09099; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:50:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:47:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA08909; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:47:06 -0600 From: JOEL.FINKLE@monsanto.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] separate pdf files Message-Id: <"0325184751-Re: PDF separate pdf files"@MHS> Date: 25 Mar 1998 12:42:32 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > I must first apologize for asking this again, because I'm certain the answer > has appeared here before. > What plug-in or third party software are folks using to string separate pdf > files into one great big one? There are a number of plug-ins and products to do this including Compose, PDFfusion, etc. However, none of them do what our group needs: Assemble documents by extracting page ranges, instead of whole docs. This is useful so that we can replace an original signature page with a scan of the actual signature, or insert appendix items in between the appendix cover pages that are part of the original word processing file. Joel Finkle +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Mar-1998 19:23:08-GMT,2319;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA14939 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:23:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA09883; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:03:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:01:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09738; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:01:18 -0600 X-Sender: gcosimin@mail-345 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA271302F4@MARS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:02:10 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Gary Cosimini Subject: Re: [PDF] Basic Watermarking? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >I need to take a collection of docs that were originally formatted for >printout on letterhead and create PDFs of them. Is there any easy way to >after the fact batch process these docs and merge the equivalent of >letterhead on each page 1. I can easily create the appropriate graphic >file to stick behind the copy. Any ideas? Acrobat 3 has an easy way to do this built-in. First turn your letterhead into a PDF. Make it the same size page as the collection's page size. Merge the collection of documents into one PDF. If you are using Windows, this can be done in one step by dragging icons around; see Exchange's Help file for instructions. On the first page of your assembled docs, create a Field of Type Button the size of the entire, and under the Field properties' Options tab, select Layout:Icon. Click the Browse button and select your Letterhead PDF. Click OK. Then under the Edit menu, choose Fields:Duplicate across entire document. Select the hand tool to see the result. Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Mar-1998 19:49:54-GMT,2743;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15534 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:49:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA10154; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:07:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:04:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09942; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:04:55 -0600 X-Sender: gcosimin@mail-345 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01bd5803$d7ee3260$6601a8c0@mdowden.dayton.oneil.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:05:51 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Gary Cosimini Subject: Re: [PDF] separate pdf files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Geneva> I must first apologize for asking this again, because I'm certain the answer has appeared here before. What plug-in or third party software are folks using to string separate pdf files into one great big one? If you are using Windows, this can be done just using Exchange! See pages 169-70 of Exchange's online help file. "To drag and drop files (Windows): 1 Set up your Windows environment so that Acrobat Exchange and File Manager or Windows Explorer windows are tiled side by side. 2 Drag the files from the File Manager or Windows Explorer to the document area of an open PDF file. 3 Click Before to insert the document before the speci-fied page. Click After to insert the document after the specified page. 4 Specify the page before or after which the document is to be inserted. 5 Click OK. The document is inserted at the location you specified. If more than one document is inserted, all documents are inserted in the order specified by File Manager or Windows Explorer. For example, if files are sorted by name, the files will be inserted alphabetically. If the files are sorted by size, they will be inserted in ascending or descending order, according to the sort in File Manager or Windows Explorer. Note: Press Ctrl while dragging and dropping multiple files to insert the files after the current page. Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Mar-1998 19:54:54-GMT,3223;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15641 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:54:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA11407; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:33:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:29:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA11165; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:29:32 -0600 From: "Mike Dowden" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] separate pdf files Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:30:28 -0500 Message-Id: <01bd5824$77e4eb40$6601a8c0@mdowden.dayton.oneil.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 -----Original Message----- From: Gary Cosimini To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [PDF] separate pdf files Thanks to everyone for their suggestions. Combining a small number of files is an easy task in exchange.....but for the 873 that I have Compose looks like the answer for this task. Once Again, thanks for the suggestions and info. Mike www.oneil.com mdowden@oneil.com >> I must first apologize for asking this again, because I'm certain the answer has appeared here before. What plug-in or third party software are folks using to string separate pdf files into one great big one? > >If you are using Windows, this can be done just using Exchange! > >See pages 169-70 of Exchange's online help file. > >"To drag and drop files (Windows): >1 Set up your Windows environment so that Acrobat >Exchange and File Manager or Windows Explorer >windows are tiled side by side. >2 Drag the files from the File Manager or Windows >Explorer to the document area of an open PDF file. >3 Click Before to insert the document before the speci-fied >page. Click After to insert the document after the >specified page. >4 Specify the page before or after which the document >is to be inserted. >5 Click OK. The document is inserted at the location >you specified. If more than one document is inserted, >all documents are inserted in the order specified by >File Manager or Windows Explorer. For example, if >files are sorted by name, the files will be inserted >alphabetically. If the files are sorted by size, they >will be inserted in ascending or descending order, >according to the sort in File Manager or Windows >Explorer. >Note: Press Ctrl while dragging and dropping >multiple files to insert the files after the current >page. > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Mar-1998 20:04:11-GMT,2244;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA15843 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:04:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA12456; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:49:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:45:47 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA12193; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:45:44 -0600 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E01F1F1@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] separate pdf files Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:44:56 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA12190 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Mike, You can find VBA code on our website in our 'code cuts' pages which demonstrates how you can use Visual Basic to combine PDFs [ref URL below]. regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions - SendMail with Acrobat Exchange, download RTSJoust! http://www.roundtable.com.au > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Dowden [SMTP:mdowden@oneil.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 1998 1:37 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] separate pdf files > > I must first apologize for asking this again, because I'm certain the > answer has appeared here before. > What plug-in or third party software are folks using to string > separate pdf files into one great big one? >   >   > Mike Dowden > www.oneil.com > mdowden@oneil.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Mar-1998 22:49:08-GMT,1893;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA19866 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:49:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA19874; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:19:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:17:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA19732; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:17:13 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:40:34 -0500 Message-ID: <000A7F3E.@doim6.monmouth.army.mil> From: fitch@doim6.monmouth.army.mil (Martin Fitch) Subject: [PDF] Extensive minor changes to PDF docs To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 May I ask for some advice, please? I have some tech manuals in pdf format; the TM number on each page must be changed. The new numbers are one (proportionally spaced) character shorter. This doesn't seem to be a job for Exchange, but the only process I can think of would be to print each manual to a postscript file, search and replace the numbers, then Distill, hoping for the best. Any sugestions for processes or software tools will be appreciated! Thanks, Martin Fitch US Army CECOM Ft. Monmouth, NJ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 25-Mar-1998 22:53:33-GMT,2979;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA19982 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:53:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA19427; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:09:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:06:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA19301; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:06:20 -0600 Message-Id: <199803252206.QAA19297@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] separate pdf files Date: Wed, 25 Mar 98 17:10:16 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Mark Gavin To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 [JOEL.FINKLE@monsanto.com wrote on 3/25/98 1:42 PM] >> I must first apologize for asking this again, because I'm certain the answer >> has appeared here before. >> What plug-in or third party software are folks using to string separate pdf >> files into one great big one? > >There are a number of plug-ins and products to do this including Compose, >PDFfusion, etc. > >However, none of them do what our group needs: >Assemble documents by extracting page ranges, instead of whole docs. >This is useful so that we can replace an original signature page with a >scan of >the actual signature, or insert appendix items in between the appendix cover >pages that are part of the original word processing file. > >Joel Finkle Joel, AppendPDF works with page ranges as well as whole documents. It will do what you are asking for and can easily be added to an automated work flow. AppendPDF is not a plug-in and does not use Acrobat Exchange. It is a stand alone application designed for high volume production in an automated environment. It can chew through millions of pages blindingly fast without breaking a sweat. One of the uses of AppendPDF is to build volume documents out of page ranges contained in a collection of documents. This is useful for building electronic submissions to regulatory agencies. The majority of customers of AppendPDF are using it for the on demand assembly of documents for delivery across the web. More information and the documentation for AppendPDF can be found on our web site at http://www.digapp.com. Mark Gavin Vice President Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA, USA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 mgavin@DigApp.com http://www.DigApp.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 26-Mar-1998 6:34:48-GMT,3093;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA07237 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:34:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA03345; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:58:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:54:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA03208; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:54:22 -0600 Message-ID: <3519ED5E.40EC@acm.org> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:53:34 -0600 From: "Stephen D. Poe" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] EMAIL PDFs as attachments Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 In response mostly referencing Murray McComb's quotes from the Adobe Engineer: Corporately, neither we nor Xenos recommend to our clients that they distribute documents via attachments (whether PDF or other formats) unless they are in total control of the environment. This usually only holds true for corporate internal use or to carefully controlled users (such as brokers for some security firms, agents for some insurance companies, etc. - and no, it doesn't hold true for all brokers or all agents). If a client is wanting to distribute to an uncontrolled user community (such as the general public, consumer market, business-to-business or a large company's customer base) we recommend not using email attachments due to the problems described very succintly by the Adobe Engineer. Life is much, much better than it was a year or two ago (calendar years, 4-8 'Internet' years ago), but you still have too many instances of the public using cheap or shareware email packages that can't handle the various forms of encoding, or going with ISPs that have the gateway set to not accept attachments over xxKB, where 'xx' can be quite low. Someday we'll be in the position where it's safe to assume 95-98+% of the general consumer market can receive a 250KB email attachment (and have the bandwidth to download it in a reasonable timeframe). But for now, we continue to recommend alternative forms of electronic delivery. Thanks, Stephen =================================================================== Stephen D. Poe, EDPP Chief Technology Officer GenText, inc. http://www.gentext.com sdpoe@acm.org -or- 972.857.0776 "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is." =================================================================== +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 26-Mar-1998 13:31:54-GMT,3318;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15147 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:31:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA13392; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:34:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:29:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA13185; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:29:54 -0600 Message-ID: <351A4A8F.99DCCB@neuro.ki.se> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:31:12 +0100 From: Virgil Stokes X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Font substitution control? References: <01BD57E4.8342E040.quite@dial.pipex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Aandi Inston wrote: > On Wednesday, 25 March, 1998 09:11, Virgil Stokes [SMTP:virgil.stokes@neuro.ki.se] wrote: > > > > I recently received a Postscript file that was generated on > > a Macintosh system. Using Ghostview I was able to display > > this file with no problems. However, when I distilled the > > file with Abobe Acrobat 3.01 there was a problem with > > the PDF file generated -- many of the lines were truncated. > > > > This appears to be due to an unwise font substitution; i.e., > > some missing PostScript fonts (in the original PostScript file) > > were replaced by Courier. Courier is a fixed width font and > > it was used to replace a variable width font (see *.LOG > > file below). I believe that it was this bad choice of > > font substitution that caused the truncated lines. > > > > This is the contents of the *.LOG file generated from the > > Distiller: > > > > TimesNewRomanPSMT not found, using Courier. > > TimesNewRomanPS-ItalicMT not found, using Courier. > > > > My question is -- Can I change the font that is used > > for this font substitution? > > No, you can't, at least not by any direct route. A missing font is > a serious error, and represents a PostScript file that is, basically, > wrong. Printing it would give the same results, usually. > > That said, TimesNewRomanPSMT is likely to be a very good > match for Times-Roman while TimesNewRomanPS-ItalicMT is > likely to be a match for Times-Italic. A simple text replace > on the PostScript file might do the trick. Otherwise, some > devious PostScript tricks in prologue.ps might serve to equate > the fonts. I took your first suggestion -- search and replace of the corruptfonts and it worked perfectly -- thanks for your quick solution. -- VPS *************************************************** V. Stokes, Ph.D. ---------> Quality Has No Fear BMC, Neuroscience of Time Karolinska Institute SWEDEN *************************************************** +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 26-Mar-1998 13:39:17-GMT,2705;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15299 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:39:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA15326; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:20:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:16:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA15156; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:16:46 -0600 Message-ID: <351A575E.DE1361B4@lsijax.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:25:51 -0500 From: "Tracie K. DeVoe" Organization: Logistic Services International X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDF List Subject: [PDF] Distiller-PS to Normal PDF? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 A while back there was a posting that said you could decrease your PDF file size tremendously if you printed to a postscript printer and then distilled. I checked the archives and must have missed it so I can't give the original message. The problem we're having is that we have PDFs that are "Image with Hidden Text". We're using this right now to avoid clean up on thousands of documents while still enabling search features (about 80-90% accurate so far). We get this from using Capture 2.0 on tif images (WinNT4.0). These PDFs are then moved to the Unix for QA (making sure the document isn't already out of date). There, we have tried to do the "PS distilled to PDF" trick and .....yes, the PDF is now half it's original size. However, it is now not searchable. Clearly, I'm in the dark....since I don't regularly use Distiller, I may be asking an obvious question....Will Distiller generate PDFs that are searchable? And if so, How? I have checked for job options and couldn't find any that related to the type of PDF generated. Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA, Tracie DeVoe +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Tracie DeVoe Logistic Services International 1851 Ehringhaus St. #101 Elizabeth City, NC 27909 PH#: (252) 335-6239 FAX: (252) 335-6463 email: tdevoe@lsijax.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 26-Mar-1998 15:03:58-GMT,2403;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA17115 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:03:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA18428; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:30:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:26:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA18255; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:26:52 -0600 Message-Id: <199803261428.OAA11294@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> From: "Peter Mathews" To: Cc: Subject: [PDF] Basic Watermarking Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:19:34 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Kenny We developed a product called PDF Protector which, amongst other things, applies (or subsequently removes) a watermark, together with the standard Acrobat Security. The watermark could indeed be your letterhead, but it applies it to every page, not just the first, so you might need to do some manual processing, as well as batch application. However, it is feasible that we could build in the selective page option if enough people requested it. There is a demo version on the PDF Zone (www.emerge.pdfzone.com), or from our own web site. Cost 395 bucks! Cheap at half the price. Any further info? email me off-list. Regards Peter. -- /// --- /// --- // Computerstream Limited -- // // // // -- // Sutton Executive Centre - // + -- // + // Two Duke Street // + // + // Sutton Coldfield --// // --// // // West Midlands B72 1RJ, UK -- /// /// -- /////// Tel: (+44) (0) 121 362 1930 Fax: (+44) (0) 121 362 1881 www.computerstream.co.uk/computerstream +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 26-Mar-1998 15:15:54-GMT,2229;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA17421 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:15:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA19909; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:01:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:59:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA19738; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:59:05 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980326160018.006c0964@pop.vatican.va> X-Sender: vati090@pop.vatican.va X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:00:18 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Piero Di Domenicantonio Subject: Re: [PDF] GhostView In-Reply-To: <852565D2.0042D8F5.00@notes950.cc.bellcore.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 07.10 25/03/98 -0500, you wrote: > GhostWiew running under Windows permits to see Postscripts or PDF files provided that the fonts are installed in Windows. > >We used to use GhostView to view PostScript files in the past. However, the >old version of GhostView on UNIX sometimes did not display some PostScript >files correctly because some fonts might be missing. > >I have seen the new version of GhostView running under Windows that can >view either PostScript and PDF files. Can someone tell me how good it is? > >Thanks, > >Rucksapol Jiwungkul >Bellcore > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 26-Mar-1998 15:43:17-GMT,3178;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA18011 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:43:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA20750; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:19:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:17:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA20676; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:17:31 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980326161853.006a5364@pop.vatican.va> X-Sender: vati090@pop.vatican.va X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:18:53 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Piero Di Domenicantonio Subject: Re: [PDF] Font substitution control? In-Reply-To: <3518CA0F.21ED5092@neuro.ki.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 10.10 25/03/98 +0100, you wrote: Yes you can !!!! Whith a Editing program open the Postscript file and in the font declaration sector replace the call to Courier font whit any font you have on your computer, that supposedly has the same width of the original one. At this point save the file as a ASCII-DOS text and distill it, and good look. Army > >I recently received a Postscript file that was generated on >a Macintosh system. Using Ghostview I was able to display >this file with no problems. However, when I distilled the >file with Abobe Acrobat 3.01 there was a problem with >the PDF file generated -- many of the lines were truncated. > >This appears to be due to an unwise font substitution; i.e., >some missing PostScript fonts (in the original PostScript file) >were replaced by Courier. Courier is a fixed width font and >it was used to replace a variable width font (see *.LOG >file below). I believe that it was this bad choice of >font substitution that caused the truncated lines. > >This is the contents of the *.LOG file generated from the >Distiller: > > TimesNewRomanPSMT not found, using Courier. > TimesNewRomanPS-ItalicMT not found, using Courier. > >My question is -- Can I change the font that is used >for this font substitution? > >-- VPS >*************************************************** >V. Stokes, Ph.D. ---------> Quality Has No Fear >BMC, Neuroscience of Time >Karolinska Institute >SWEDEN >*************************************************** > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 26-Mar-1998 15:44:19-GMT,2359;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA18035 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:44:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA20605; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:15:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:13:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA20453; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:13:05 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980326161413.006a198c@pop.vatican.va> X-Sender: vati090@pop.vatican.va X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:14:13 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Piero Di Domenicantonio Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF printer driver In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 At 10.36 24/03/98 -0600, you wrote: A driver which saves wath it is sent to it does exist but it is inserted in a software applications made by Adobe Corporation, typically Acrobat Distiller but are also inserted in the utility with software same Adobe Illustrator or Adobe Dimensions. Army > >Hello PDF world, > > An application I have creates nice reports with text & graphics. >These reports can not be saved as files, or cut and pasted into other >apps. They can only be printed. Other than printing them and then >scanning them in, does anyone know of a driver that looks like a printer >diver that instead of printing what is sent to it, saves it as a local >PDF file? > >Thanks, >Nick > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 26-Mar-1998 15:51:07-GMT,3778;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA18205 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:51:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA21224; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:28:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:25:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA21056; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:25:51 -0600 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <882565D3.00534602.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:25:21 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller-PS to Normal PDF? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Tracie: We create PDF with Hidden text, too, for the very same reason that you do. We found that our original PDF file sizes were very large and that distilling the files reduced the file size. And we did just what you did - captured and distilled - and lost the capturing. We distilled PDF files (using Distiller Assistant) and reduced the PDF file size, then captured the files. BUT, what we found is that the resulting PDF file after we Distilled and then Captured was just about the same size as just running the file through capture - PDF with Hidden text. Needless to say, we've stopped putting the files through the distiller process. Sue "Tracie K. DeVoe" on 03/26/98 05:25:51 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: PDF List cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] Distiller-PS to Normal PDF? A while back there was a posting that said you could decrease your PDF file size tremendously if you printed to a postscript printer and then distilled. I checked the archives and must have missed it so I can't give the original message. The problem we're having is that we have PDFs that are "Image with Hidden Text". We're using this right now to avoid clean up on thousands of documents while still enabling search features (about 80-90% accurate so far). We get this from using Capture 2.0 on tif images (WinNT4.0). These PDFs are then moved to the Unix for QA (making sure the document isn't already out of date). There, we have tried to do the "PS distilled to PDF" trick and .....yes, the PDF is now half it's original size. However, it is now not searchable. Clearly, I'm in the dark....since I don't regularly use Distiller, I may be asking an obvious question....Will Distiller generate PDFs that are searchable? And if so, How? I have checked for job options and couldn't find any that related to the type of PDF generated. Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA, Tracie DeVoe +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Tracie DeVoe Logistic Services International 1851 Ehringhaus St. #101 Elizabeth City, NC 27909 PH#: (252) 335-6239 FAX: (252) 335-6463 email: tdevoe@lsijax.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 26-Mar-1998 16:22:22-GMT,1635;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA18847 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:22:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA22873; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:59:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:57:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA22742; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:57:51 -0600 Message-ID: <351A7BD7.7AA4@spokanecounty.org> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:01:27 -0800 From: Hal Allert Organization: Spokane County X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Reader opening blank Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Recently, I have been hearing from users that when they attempt to open one of our PDF files, the Reader opens as a standalone, but the screen is blank . The file they want to look at is nowhere to be found. This Reader was downloaded from Adobe's site and the install procedures were followed. Any thoughts on this? Hal +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 26-Mar-1998 17:21:32-GMT,1395;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20297 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:21:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA25478; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:54:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:53:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25407; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:53:43 -0600 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CHAMPION INTERNATIONAL From: "Rick Bishop" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852565D3.005CC413.00@KBNOTES07.champint.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:54:37 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Reader opening blank Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Is the working directory assigned to the shortcut the same as the default Reader3 install directory? This is a must in NT. Rick Bishop +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 26-Mar-1998 17:21:59-GMT,2200;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20306 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:21:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA25971; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:03:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:01:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25831; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:01:35 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD58D9.4AF416A0.davec@docctrl.com> From: David Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] separate pdf files Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:36:16 -0000 Organization: Computerised Document Control Ltd X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Joel You said: >There are a number of plug-ins and products to do this including Compose, >PDFfusion, etc. > >However, none of them do what our group needs: >Assemble documents by extracting page ranges, instead of whole docs. >This is useful so that we can replace an original signature page with a scan of >the actual signature, or insert appendix items in between the appendix cover >pages that are part of the original word processing file. PDFfusion will allow the use of page ranges in the next release. Regards drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 26-Mar-1998 17:39:07-GMT,1719;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20821 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:39:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA27244; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:27:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:25:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA27103; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:25:46 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980326123118.008e2d70@vaxxine.com> X-Sender: rickan@vaxxine.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:31:18 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mark Rickan Subject: [PDF] Q: Turning off Image Rendering? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 My apologies if this is a FAQ, but does anyone know if it would be possible to toggle the display of raster images? Since Acrobat offers the ability to suppress image rendering for images larger than 128k I'm assuming that this is possible, but would appreciate any insights. Ideally, I'd like to be able to completely suppress image rendering without leaving a bounding rect as a placeholder. Thanks, Mark +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 26-Mar-1998 17:43:56-GMT,2079;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20981 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:43:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA27245; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:27:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:24:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26999; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:24:35 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980326123005.008e63a0@vaxxine.com> X-Sender: rickan@vaxxine.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:30:05 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mark Rickan Subject: [PDF] AFP Overlays Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Phil, >We're looking at ways of taking our PDF documents >and trying to use them as AFP overlays for printing >on mainframes. Is there a way to convert PDF to AFP >overlays? Or what product to we need to look at? I'm not entirely sure of what you are attempting to do here, but is your interest primarily in converting large volumes of PDF documents to AFP for printing? If so, I can point you to a PDF2AFP transform product which GenText (http://www.gentext.com/) has available. Perhaps with some further elaboration on your overlay situation we can determine if we have a solution that fits your needs. As GenText is a division of Xenos, feel free to drop me a line with your contact information and I'll have an analyst get in touch with you. Cheers, Mark Rickan The Xenos Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 26-Mar-1998 20:32:42-GMT,2819;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA25541 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:32:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA02045; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:57:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:55:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01751; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:55:22 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD58F1.26C74C80.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Byteserving PDFs Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:55:35 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Thursday, 26 March, 1998 18:22, Harry Sova [SMTP:hsova@brii.com] wrote: > We understand that the way to do that is to byteserve the docs. We are > running IIS 4.0 on an NT platform, over a full T1. One of our staff members > checked for byteserve info on the Adobe site, and told me that this is a > client-side issue, using some sort of Active-X module in the IE browser. > His take on this was that IIS (Microsoft Internet Information Server) is > capable of responding to such a request, and relies on the browser control > to request such a service. Byteserving needs these things. 1. A web server capable of byteserving -OR- a webserver running a perl script to deliver PDF files byteserved. I sometimes find the latter more reliable. Check you have IIS at the appropriate service pack level. 2. A PDF file which was optimized using Save As+Optimize or Batch Optimize in Acrobat Exchange (that may be your missing element as you don't mention it). 3. The user must be running IE3+ on 32-bit Windows, or Netscape 2+ (3+ on Unix). 4. The user must be running Acrobat Reader 3.0 or above (or Exchange). 5. The user must be viewing the PDF file within the browser Window. This is automatic using an ActiveX for IE, or a Netscape plug-in for Netscape. However (a) an update to the ActiveX is needed for IE4 and (b) if the user installs Netscape AFTER Acrobat they will need to manually copy a Netscape plug-in. If the PDF file is viewed in the Reader window instead, something is wrong. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 26-Mar-1998 21:53:06-GMT,3853;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27519 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:53:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA05888; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:15:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:12:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA05684; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:12:04 -0600 From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:13:22 -0700 (MST) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: [PDF] Byteserving PDFs In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:21:43 -0500 Message-ID: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Harry Sova asks: >> We understand that the way to do that is to byteserve the docs. >> One of our staff members checked for byteserve info on the Adobe >> site, and told me that this is a client-side issue, using some sort >> of Active-X module in the IE browser. My understanding is that collaboration on both server and client sides is necessary. For example, at http://www.math.utah.edu/, I run the Apache server, and the conf/srm.conf file has this addition: # Byte serving support as documented at: # http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/byteserve.html#ncsa # with /home/www/cgi-bin/byteserver.pl from same #Byte-Serve all application/pdf files via the cgi #byteserver perl script: action application/pdf /cgi-bin/byteserver.pl That Perl script starts out: # This script implements the draft "Byte Range Retrieval Extension to HTTP" described at # "http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/LIBRARY/drafts/draft-ietf-http-v10-spec-05.txt". and has additional information in it about the required setup. You can test whether byte serving is working by examining your server logs. With an NCSA/Apache-style server, you'll see log entries like this (synthetic) one similar to others in our /home/www/logs/access_log file: foo.bar.com - - [24/Feb/1998:14:55:23 -0700] "GET /~janedoe/stuff/sample.pdf HTTP/1.0" 200 8192 If you hop from page to page in a large PDF document, your Web browser should request modest chunks of the PDF file from the Web server, and this should be reflected in multiple GET requests in the server log. I tried this locally, but at least on my 400KB test file, netscape 4.03 fetched it as one chunk. Other entries in our logs do show multiple gets for the same file, with different byte counts. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 105 JWB beebe@acm.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 26-Mar-1998 23:10:50-GMT,2073;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29386 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:10:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA10483; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:07:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:03:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA10317; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:03:23 -0600 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:04:56 -0600 To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com From: jim@day-star.com Subject: [PDFdev] pdf/fdf troubles Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, I'm working on a cgi script that sends a reply back to a PDF form. The script is working, and looks like this: print "http 1.0/ 200 ok\n"; print "Content-type: application/vnd.fdf\n\n"; print "%FDF-1.2\n"; print "1 0 obj\n<<\n"; print "/FDF <>]>>\n>>\nendobj\n"; print "trailer\n<<\n/Root 1 0 R\n\n>>\n%%EOF\n"; My problem is this: It will work on my IIS Web server with IE4.x, but not with Netscape. Netscape gives me an error: Unknown status reply from server: 1! This only happens on my web server, any other PDF forms that get replys, it works on. I'm thinking this is a Netscape/Helper/Mime thing on my system. Any suggestions? Thanks, -- Jim Huenergardt ------------------------- Webmaster/Lead Designer Senior Programmer Day Star Interactive Voice: 719.522.0771 +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDFdev is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ 26-Mar-1998 18:58:11-GMT,2178;000000000011 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA23036 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:58:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA30019; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:31:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:28:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA29835; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:28:36 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980326132143.00a61dd0@192.168.167.120> X-Sender: hsova@192.168.167.120 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:21:43 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: hsova@brii.com (Harry Sova) Subject: [PDF] Byteserving PDFs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We are developing a project whereby documents (300 - 1,000 pages) are available for downloading off of our website. Oftentimes a user only needs a couple specific pages, perhaps a chapter of contiguous pages, or 2-10 pages all over that document. We understand that the way to do that is to byteserve the docs. We are running IIS 4.0 on an NT platform, over a full T1. One of our staff members checked for byteserve info on the Adobe site, and told me that this is a client-side issue, using some sort of Active-X module in the IE browser. His take on this was that IIS (Microsoft Internet Information Server) is capable of responding to such a request, and relies on the browser control to request such a service. Can anybody shed light on this with a few hints on how to get this to work? regards Harry Sova Blue Ridge Interactive VA Tech Corporate Research Ctr Blacksburg, VA +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 26-Mar-1998 21:13:24-GMT,3216;000000000001 Received: from plot79.math.utah.edu (beebe@plot79.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.3]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26595; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:13:23 -0700 (MST) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Received: (from beebe@localhost) by plot79.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA20802; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:13:22 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:13:22 -0700 (MST) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: Re: [PDF] Byteserving PDFs In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:21:43 -0500 Message-ID: Harry Sova asks: >> We understand that the way to do that is to byteserve the docs. >> One of our staff members checked for byteserve info on the Adobe >> site, and told me that this is a client-side issue, using some sort >> of Active-X module in the IE browser. My understanding is that collaboration on both server and client sides is necessary. For example, at http://www.math.utah.edu/, I run the Apache server, and the conf/srm.conf file has this addition: # Byte serving support as documented at: # http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/byteserve.html#ncsa # with /home/www/cgi-bin/byteserver.pl from same #Byte-Serve all application/pdf files via the cgi #byteserver perl script: action application/pdf /cgi-bin/byteserver.pl That Perl script starts out: # This script implements the draft "Byte Range Retrieval Extension to HTTP" described at # "http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/LIBRARY/drafts/draft-ietf-http-v10-spec-05.txt". and has additional information in it about the required setup. You can test whether byte serving is working by examining your server logs. With an NCSA/Apache-style server, you'll see log entries like this (synthetic) one similar to others in our /home/www/logs/access_log file: foo.bar.com - - [24/Feb/1998:14:55:23 -0700] "GET /~janedoe/stuff/sample.pdf HTTP/1.0" 200 8192 If you hop from page to page in a large PDF document, your Web browser should request modest chunks of the PDF file from the Web server, and this should be reflected in multiple GET requests in the server log. I tried this locally, but at least on my 400KB test file, netscape 4.03 fetched it as one chunk. Other entries in our logs do show multiple gets for the same file, with different byte counts. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 105 JWB beebe@acm.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26-Mar-1998 23:02:27-GMT,3708;000000000011 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29155 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:02:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA09129; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:32:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:27:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08959; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:27:49 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980326222322.0093c9b8@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:23:22 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: RE: [PDF] Byteserving PDFs Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 In addition to the already-mentioned client requirements, one more client-side setting is required: The Acrobat Reader Preferences>General setting to "Allow background download of entire file" must be UN-checked. This is not intuitive (IMHO), and is not the default. On the server side, IIS3+ is all you need; no Perl script or any other aids are needed, since byteserving is supported and enabled by default, straight out of the box (well, at least it is on IIS3, and I can't imagine that it would be different in IIS4). Tom Thiersch At 07:55 PM 3/26/98 -0000, you wrote: > > > >On Thursday, 26 March, 1998 18:22, Harry Sova [SMTP:hsova@brii.com] wrote: > >> We understand that the way to do that is to byteserve the docs. We are >> running IIS 4.0 on an NT platform, over a full T1. One of our staff members >> checked for byteserve info on the Adobe site, and told me that this is a >> client-side issue, using some sort of Active-X module in the IE browser. >> His take on this was that IIS (Microsoft Internet Information Server) is >> capable of responding to such a request, and relies on the browser control >> to request such a service. > >Byteserving needs these things. > >1. A web server capable of byteserving -OR- a webserver running a perl script >to deliver PDF files byteserved. I sometimes find the latter more reliable. >Check you have IIS at the appropriate service pack level. > >2. A PDF file which was optimized using Save As+Optimize or Batch Optimize >in Acrobat Exchange (that may be your missing element as you don't mention >it). > >3. The user must be running IE3+ on 32-bit Windows, or Netscape 2+ (3+ on Unix). > >4. The user must be running Acrobat Reader 3.0 or above (or Exchange). > >5. The user must be viewing the PDF file within the browser Window. This is >automatic using an ActiveX for IE, or a Netscape plug-in for Netscape. However >(a) an update to the ActiveX is needed for IE4 and >(b) if the user installs Netscape AFTER Acrobat they will need to manually >copy a Netscape plug-in. >If the PDF file is viewed in the Reader window instead, something is wrong. >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Mar-1998 0:10:53-GMT,1584;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00745 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:10:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA11888; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:41:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:38:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA11800; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:38:40 -0600 Message-ID: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA27130319@MARS> From: "Schiff, Kenny" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] PDF Import Filter for PageMaker 6.52 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:35:18 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I've heard tell of a PDF Import filter for PageMaker 6.52. A visit to Adobe shows that it no longer exists. Anybody have this? If so, does it work? what are the limitations? Kenny Schiff Director Corporate Communications Rauland-Borg Corporation http://www.rauland.com kenny.schiff@rauland.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Mar-1998 1:11:37-GMT,2888;000000000000 Received: from plot79.math.utah.edu (beebe@plot79.math.utah.edu [128.110.198.3]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA01940; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:11:37 -0700 (MST) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Received: (from beebe@localhost) by plot79.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA22446; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:11:36 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:11:36 -0700 (MST) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: RE: [PDF] Byteserving PDFs In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:23:22 -0800 Message-ID: Tom Thiersch comments: >> The Acrobat Reader Preferences>General setting to "Allow background >> of entire file" must be UN-checked. This is not intuitive (IMHO), and is >> not the default. On my UNIX (Sun Solaris 2.6) system, I changed my top-level .acrorc file for Acrobat Reader 3.01 to have *DownloadEntireFile: false instead of the original default `true' value. Examination of the Web server access logs shows downloaded chunks of size 77KB, 143KB, 160KB, 350KB, 450KB, as well as for the entire test file of 488KB. However, it does not appear to be readily predictable how much netscape/acroread will request: the initial chunk requested in each of several test sessions varied from 350KB to 77KB to 28KB to 184KB, even though I only displayed the first page of a 70-page document. Do folks on other systems see similar variability in the size of chunks downloaded? I would have expected that only 10KB to 20KB would be needed to display the first page (though some extra overhead is expected for my test document, which has embedded fonts, instead of using the PDF Standard Base 14 fonts). I changed the DownloadEntireFile variable back to true, and made further experiments: the download chunk sizes logged by the Web server were again variable, and apparently unpredictable. Thus, it is not evident that the DownloadEntireFile option has any effect on the handling of PDF files on the Web. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 105 JWB beebe@acm.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27-Mar-1998 2:37:36-GMT,2138;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03566 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:37:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA14076; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:48:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:45:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA14003; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:45:49 -0600 Message-Id: <199803270047.BAA25144@d1o202.telia.com> Subject: RE: [PDF] Byteserving PDFs Date: Fri, 27 Mar 98 01:44:28 +0100 x-sender: u222600675@m1.2226.telia.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Richard Taubo To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id SAA13999 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi! Tom Thiersch wrote: >The Acrobat Reader Preferences>General setting to "Allow background >download of entire file" must be UN-checked. This is not intuitive >(IMHO), and is not the default. Is it correct that you have to Un-check the setting mentioned above to allow byteserving to work?!? Byteserving certainly works on my Mac with Exchange (3.0, not upgraded yet;) without this setting being un-checked. I´ve also tried Reader on other platforms with different browsers without touching this setting (I guess these were checked as well since, according to what is mentioned above, this is the default setting?!?), and they worked fine as well. Just wanted to mention this, maybe you guys/girls can prove me wrong ?!? ;) Richard Taubo +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Mar-1998 2:38:08-GMT,3225;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03571 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:38:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA15041; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:16:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:13:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA14906; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:13:43 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980327010923.00939da4@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:09:23 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: RE: [PDF] Byteserving PDFs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id TAA14903 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I can assure you that the setting I described behaves as I stated in WinNT, using MSIE4 as the browser. The original question to which I was responding was asked by a Windows NT4 user, so that was the audience I addressed. If it works OK with Macs, that's nice. It might also work with Netscape, even in a Windows environment, since a completely different piece of code is involved (i.e.: a Netscape plug-in instead of the OCX that's used with MSIE4.) No confusion wrt other platforms and/or browsers was intended. Perhaps someone would like to compile a list of all of the possible combinations of OS's and browsers (by version), and how they behave in byteserving applications? Have fun! Tom Thiersch At 01:44 AM 3/27/98 +0100, you wrote: > >Hi! > >Tom Thiersch wrote: >>The Acrobat Reader Preferences>General setting to "Allow background >>download of entire file" must be UN-checked. This is not intuitive >>(IMHO), and is not the default. > >Is it correct that you have to Un-check the setting mentioned above to allow byteserving to work?!? Byteserving certainly works on my Mac with Exchange (3.0, not upgraded yet;) without this setting being un-checked. I´ve also tried Reader on other platforms with different browsers without touching this setting (I guess these were checked as well since, according to what is mentioned above, this is the default setting?!?), and they worked fine as well. > >Just wanted to mention this, maybe you guys/girls can prove me wrong ?!? ;) > >Richard Taubo >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Mar-1998 2:38:32-GMT,1431;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03574 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:38:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA13603; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:35:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:33:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA13521; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:33:14 -0600 Message-Id: <199803270022.SAA28698@mustang.fidnet.com> X-Sender: mueller@mail.fidnet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:31:36 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Randall Mueller Subject: [PDF] Stepping PDF's Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Anyone know of other software that steps pdfs besides Quite Impossing? Randall mueller@fidnet.com Online Books-Webtv Talk http://whdesign.com/ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Mar-1998 2:41:26-GMT,3525;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03654 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:41:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA17181; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:13:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:10:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA16985; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:10:28 -0600 From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 18:11:36 -0700 (MST) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: RE: [PDF] Byteserving PDFs In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:23:22 -0800 Message-ID: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Tom Thiersch comments: >> The Acrobat Reader Preferences>General setting to "Allow background >> of entire file" must be UN-checked. This is not intuitive (IMHO), and is >> not the default. On my UNIX (Sun Solaris 2.6) system, I changed my top-level .acrorc file for Acrobat Reader 3.01 to have *DownloadEntireFile: false instead of the original default `true' value. Examination of the Web server access logs shows downloaded chunks of size 77KB, 143KB, 160KB, 350KB, 450KB, as well as for the entire test file of 488KB. However, it does not appear to be readily predictable how much netscape/acroread will request: the initial chunk requested in each of several test sessions varied from 350KB to 77KB to 28KB to 184KB, even though I only displayed the first page of a 70-page document. Do folks on other systems see similar variability in the size of chunks downloaded? I would have expected that only 10KB to 20KB would be needed to display the first page (though some extra overhead is expected for my test document, which has embedded fonts, instead of using the PDF Standard Base 14 fonts). I changed the DownloadEntireFile variable back to true, and made further experiments: the download chunk sizes logged by the Web server were again variable, and apparently unpredictable. Thus, it is not evident that the DownloadEntireFile option has any effect on the handling of PDF files on the Web. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 105 JWB beebe@acm.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Mar-1998 16:58:25-GMT,2787;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20507 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:58:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA08472; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:17:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:13:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08222; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:13:31 -0600 MR-Received: by mta MIMAS.MUAS; Relayed; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:14:36 +0000 MR-Received: by mta VESTA; Relayed; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:15:36 +0000 Disclose-recipients: prohibited Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:14:36 +0000 (GMT) From: Lex Jansen Subject: [PDF] Postscript --> PDF To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-id: <6436141727031998/A02103/MIMAS/11C3DC4E2400*@MHS> Autoforwarded: false MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential UA-content-id: 11C3DC4E2400 X400-MTS-identifier: [;6436141727031998/A02103/MIMAS] Hop-count: 1 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, I have a question that is basically a Postscript question. On my department programmers create Postscript files with SAS and I distill these Postscript files to PDF. The programmers want to print these Postscript files on a HP Laserjet 4Si from there VAX/VMS workstation. No problem. The Postscript files have portrait and landscape pages and have to printed in duplex. The problem is when I use the setpagedevice operator to get portrait and landscape the file does not print in duplex anymore. If do not use the user-efined procedures Port and Land the Duplex printing works fine. What am I doing wrong ? This is how my Postscript file looks like basically: ============= START OF CODE ===================== %!PS-Adobe-3.0 /Port { 2 dict dup /PageSize [595.3 841.9] put dup /ImagingBBox null put setpagedevice } bind def /Land { 2 dict dup /PageSize [841.9 595.3] put dup /ImagingBBox null put setpagedevice } bind def <> setpagedevice /Courier findfont 12 scalefont setfont Port 100 100 moveto (page 1) show showpage Land 100 100 moveto (page 2) show showpage =============== END OF CODE ===================== Lex Jansen NV Organon The Netherlands +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Mar-1998 17:00:11-GMT,3317;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20570 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:00:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA09797; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:44:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:44:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA09737; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:44:01 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980327164312.00b69bf0@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-Sender: martinb@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:43:12 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Martin Bailey Subject: Re: [PDF] Postscript --> PDF In-Reply-To: <6436141727031998/A02103/MIMAS/11C3DC4E2400*@MHS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On a number of devices changing the page size will remove any pre-set duplexing options. I seem to remember seeing some notes on this in the PPD spec. In any case, I'd suggest putting the duplex call after the portrait or landscape setting. Regards Martin Bailey Harlequin Ltd At 17:14 27/03/98 +0000, Lex Jansen wrote: > >Hi, > > >I have a question that is basically a Postscript question. >On my department programmers create Postscript files with SAS and I distill >these Postscript files to PDF. >The programmers want to print these Postscript files on a HP Laserjet 4Si from >there VAX/VMS workstation. No problem. >The Postscript files have portrait and landscape pages and have to printed in >duplex. The problem is when I use the setpagedevice operator to get portrait >and landscape the file does not print in duplex anymore. >If do not use the user-efined procedures Port and Land the Duplex printing >works fine. >What am I doing wrong ? >This is how my Postscript file looks like basically: > >============= START OF CODE ===================== >%!PS-Adobe-3.0 >/Port { 2 dict dup /PageSize [595.3 841.9] put dup > /ImagingBBox null put setpagedevice > } bind def > >/Land { 2 dict dup /PageSize [841.9 595.3] put dup > /ImagingBBox null put setpagedevice > } bind def > ><> setpagedevice > >/Courier findfont 12 scalefont setfont > >Port >100 100 moveto (page 1) show >showpage > >Land >100 100 moveto (page 2) show >showpage >=============== END OF CODE ===================== > >Lex Jansen >NV Organon >The Netherlands > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Mar-1998 17:03:17-GMT,3317;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20606 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:03:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA09794; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:44:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:43:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA09711; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:43:56 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980327164312.00b69bf0@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-Sender: martinb@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:43:12 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf@lists.emrg.com From: Martin Bailey Subject: Re: [PDF] Postscript --> PDF In-Reply-To: <6436141727031998/A02103/MIMAS/11C3DC4E2400*@MHS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On a number of devices changing the page size will remove any pre-set duplexing options. I seem to remember seeing some notes on this in the PPD spec. In any case, I'd suggest putting the duplex call after the portrait or landscape setting. Regards Martin Bailey Harlequin Ltd At 17:14 27/03/98 +0000, Lex Jansen wrote: > >Hi, > > >I have a question that is basically a Postscript question. >On my department programmers create Postscript files with SAS and I distill >these Postscript files to PDF. >The programmers want to print these Postscript files on a HP Laserjet 4Si from >there VAX/VMS workstation. No problem. >The Postscript files have portrait and landscape pages and have to printed in >duplex. The problem is when I use the setpagedevice operator to get portrait >and landscape the file does not print in duplex anymore. >If do not use the user-efined procedures Port and Land the Duplex printing >works fine. >What am I doing wrong ? >This is how my Postscript file looks like basically: > >============= START OF CODE ===================== >%!PS-Adobe-3.0 >/Port { 2 dict dup /PageSize [595.3 841.9] put dup > /ImagingBBox null put setpagedevice > } bind def > >/Land { 2 dict dup /PageSize [841.9 595.3] put dup > /ImagingBBox null put setpagedevice > } bind def > ><> setpagedevice > >/Courier findfont 12 scalefont setfont > >Port >100 100 moveto (page 1) show >showpage > >Land >100 100 moveto (page 2) show >showpage >=============== END OF CODE ===================== > >Lex Jansen >NV Organon >The Netherlands > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Mar-1998 17:07:10-GMT,2388;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20741 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:07:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA09614; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:42:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:40:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA09553; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:40:39 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:42:30 -0600 To: PAGEMAKR@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Beth Fischi Subject: [PDF] Screenshots for conversion to PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi, all -- quick question: I'd like your opinions on the optimum way to prepare screenshots for a manual that is going to be distributed both in paper format (laserprinted) and as a PDF file. The screenshots that I've included in the manual (a PM 6.5 for Mac publication) look fine when printed, but lousy onscreen as part of a PDF file and as part of the PM publication. I can adjust downsampling when I export as PDF, but the originals in PM look bad (Acrobat can't *improve* the onscreen appearance of files, right?) -- that is, when you look at them onscreen, you can't read most of the print on dialog boxes and windows. Is there a way to optimize these screenshots for exporting from PM as part of a PDF manual? I've tried Photoshopping them -- using a bunch of different modes -- but my Frankensteinian experiments still made them look lousy onscreen. TIA for all your great help! -- Beth _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Beth Fischi Technical Writer Texas Animal Health Commission Voice: 1-800-550-8242 x733 Fax: (512) 719-0729 E-mail: bethf@tahc.state.tx.us http://www.tahc.state.tx.us _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Mar-1998 20:58:40-GMT,2637;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA26154 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:58:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA19871; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:35:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:33:02 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19718; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:32:59 -0600 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CHAMPION INTERNATIONAL From: "Rick Bishop" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: bethf@tahc.state.tx.us Message-ID: <852565D4.006C443A.00@KBNOTES07.champint.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:33:50 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Screenshots for conversion to PDF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Beth: You didn't say what size the graphics are to be when printed from pdf. For this purpose I'll assume a ~7 x 5 inch rectangle on paper as measured by your rulers in PageMaker which is about as large as is convenient. This size is only possible from screen captures if your display is set to 1024x768 and your image fills the screen. If your display presentation window to capture is only 640x480, the largest practical good quality printed image you can expect is about half that. The following gives excellent screen and print output. 1. Set your display to as large as possible while maintaining millions of colors. (256 is ok if you KNOW there are less than that in your image) 2. Get your screen image onto the clipboard with the print screen button or a utility program. 3. In Photoshop; File, New, RGB. Edit, Paste. Select the image you want exactly and crop. 4. Image, Size, (Select File Size and Proportions) Resolution, 144 pixels per inch - minimum. -- this is the important part -- 5. Mode to Index color, 8 bit adaptive, diffusion. 5. File, Save As, TIFF, no compression. and place in your PM file. 6. Change your distiller settings to downsample to JPG Medium -High. 7. Use pdf writer (don't forget the settings) or distill to pdf. Let me know how it works for you. Rick Bishop PRP Media, Houston +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Mar-1998 20:59:43-GMT,3060;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA26176 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:59:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA18948; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:13:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:05:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18662; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:05:35 -0600 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:47:23 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Screenshots for conversion to PDF Cc: Beth Fischi Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Beth, a quick question back: Which file format are you using for the screen shots? At which resolution do you place them? At which resolution do you distill them, and at which resolution do you view them ... and on which platform? Well, that was a whole bunch of quick questions... Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ____________ >Hi, all -- quick question: > >I'd like your opinions on the optimum way to prepare screenshots for a >manual that is going to be distributed both in paper format (laserprinted) >and as a PDF file. > >The screenshots that I've included in the manual (a PM 6.5 for Mac >publication) look fine when printed, but lousy onscreen as part of a PDF >file and as part of the PM publication. I can adjust downsampling when I >export as PDF, but the originals in PM look bad (Acrobat can't *improve* >the onscreen appearance of files, right?) -- that is, when you look at them >onscreen, you can't read most of the print on dialog boxes and windows. > >Is there a way to optimize these screenshots for exporting from PM as part >of a PDF manual? I've tried Photoshopping them -- using a bunch of >different modes -- but my Frankensteinian experiments still made them look >lousy onscreen. > >TIA for all your great help! -- Beth > >_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ > Beth Fischi > Technical Writer > Texas Animal Health Commission > Voice: 1-800-550-8242 x733 > Fax: (512) 719-0729 > E-mail: bethf@tahc.state.tx.us > http://www.tahc.state.tx.us >_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Mar-1998 21:26:13-GMT,1718;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26807 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:26:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA20515; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:52:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:49:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20386; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:49:27 -0600 Message-ID: <000c01bd59c2$55df31a0$8103a8c0@olympus.pr.mcs.net> From: "Jeremy Treister" To: Subject: [PDF] Converting FH7 to PDF Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:52:33 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am having problems printing a FH7 file to PS and distilling it. The text on the page turns into big dots. Anyone have any answers? Jeremy Treister Sensorium Software, Inc. Visual Business Management e jtreister@SensoriumSoftware.com v 312.786.1330.515 f 312.786.1324 www.SensoriumSoftware.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Mar-1998 21:26:51-GMT,2542;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26819 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:26:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA21082; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:01:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:59:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20962; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:59:12 -0600 Message-ID: <002301bd59c3$b4600b90$8103a8c0@olympus.pr.mcs.net> From: "Jeremy Treister" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting FH7 to PDF Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:02:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Actually, exporting to PDF (rather than printing to PS file) worked. Certainly I do not have as much control over the process this way, however. Jeremy Treister Sensorium Software, Inc. Visual Business Management e jtreister@SensoriumSoftware.com v 312.786.1330.515 f 312.786.1324 -----Original Message----- From: Jeremy Treister To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Friday, March 27, 1998 2:55 PM Subject: [PDF] Converting FH7 to PDF > >I am having problems printing a FH7 file to PS and distilling it. The text >on the page turns into big dots. Anyone have any answers? > >Jeremy Treister > Sensorium Software, Inc. > Visual Business Management >e jtreister@SensoriumSoftware.com > v 312.786.1330.515 > f 312.786.1324 > >www.SensoriumSoftware.com > > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Mar-1998 21:34:23-GMT,2566;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27045 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:34:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA21552; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:13:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:08:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21382; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:08:55 -0600 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:08:00 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, PAGEMAKR@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU From: Beth Fischi Subject: Re: [PDF] Screenshots for conversion to PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi Max, I use the built-in Macintosh screenshot utility (Command-Shift-3) on System 8.0. I save the files as RGB TIFFs in Photoshop, then place them using Command-D into PM 6.52 (the screenshots don't need to be RGB; they can use greyscale if that will improve anything, including size). They are viewed & placed at 100% resolution in General Prefs > High Resolution > More. Color and greyscale bitmap images are set to 72 dpi in Distiller and monochrome bitmap images are set to 300 dpi. (By the by, this may not matter, but I don't need to worry about cross-platform issues currently, since our agency is all Macintosh, and the application for which I'm writing the manual is a Macintosh application.) Just a few quick answers : ) Thanks, Beth >Which file format are you using for the screen shots? At which resolution >do you place them? At which resolution do you distill them, and at which >resolution do you view them ... and on which platform? >Max Wyss _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Beth Fischi Technical Writer Texas Animal Health Commission Voice: 1-800-550-8242 x733 Fax: (512) 719-0729 E-mail: bethf@tahc.state.tx.us http://www.tahc.state.tx.us _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Mar-1998 21:39:15-GMT,2950;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27177 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:39:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA22061; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:26:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:23:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21940; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:23:52 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:25:39 -0500 From: "trevor joseph" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting FH7 to PDF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA21937 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Could the text be getting "greeked"? Trevor Joseph Corel Quality Assurance >>> "Jeremy Treister" 03/27 4:02 PM >>> Actually, exporting to PDF (rather than printing to PS file) worked. Certainly I do not have as much control over the process this way, however. Jeremy Treister Sensorium Software, Inc. Visual Business Management e jtreister@SensoriumSoftware.com v 312.786.1330.515 f 312.786.1324 -----Original Message----- From: Jeremy Treister To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Friday, March 27, 1998 2:55 PM Subject: [PDF] Converting FH7 to PDF > >I am having problems printing a FH7 file to PS and distilling it. The text >on the page turns into big dots. Anyone have any answers? > >Jeremy Treister > Sensorium Software, Inc. > Visual Business Management >e jtreister@SensoriumSoftware.com > v 312.786.1330.515 > f 312.786.1324 > >www.SensoriumSoftware.com > > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 27-Mar-1998 22:32:58-GMT,1546;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA28437 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:32:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23681; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:58:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:54:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA23386; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:54:19 -0600 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CHAMPION INTERNATIONAL From: "Rick Bishop" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852565D4.007825AF.00@KBNOTES07.champint.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:55:24 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Screenshots for conversion to PDF ( Addition ) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Sorry, I forgot to add: 6. Change your distiller settings to downsample to JPG Medium -High. + + + DPI -- 110 + + + no less in distiller for good output at all screen resolutions. 7. Use pdf writer (don't forget the settings) or distill to pdf. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Mar-1998 1:02:55-GMT,1816;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA02027 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:02:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA30226; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:37:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:32:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA29836; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:32:09 -0600 Message-ID: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA27130337@MARS> From: "Schiff, Kenny" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Local Render vs. PDFMaker and Word 97 Headings->Bookmarks Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:28:32 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I've had mixed results with PDFMaker and Word97 headings getting converted to bookmarks. I tried this a few times and got no bookmarks (although I just tried it and it was OK), seems intermittent. I tried out Local Render and it work flawlessly, although with a little less control and automation. What are other people's thoughts on this. Has anyone else had problems with PDFMaker? Kenny Schiff Director Corporate Communications Rauland-Borg Corporation http://www.rauland.com kenny.schiff@rauland.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Mar-1998 8:19:29-GMT,2920;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA10509 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 01:19:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA14150; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 01:49:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 28 Mar 1998 01:45:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA14068; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 01:45:21 -0600 From: jeffmcarthur@home.com (Jeffrey McArthur) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Screenshots for conversion to PDF Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 07:49:08 GMT Organization: ATLIS Publishing Services Message-ID: <351faa01.3324715@mail> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id BAA14065 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:42:30 -0600, you wrote: >I'd like your opinions on the optimum way to prepare screenshots for a >manual that is going to be distributed both in paper format (laserprinted) >and as a PDF file. I just did this for a paper I presented. I did it on the PC, but a similar method should be available for the Mac. I fired up the application I wanted to screen-capture. I also fired up Corel PhotoPaint. I would press "print-screen" in the app, then alt-tab over to PhotoPaint and open the clipboard. I would then print the screen to a file using a color postscript printer definition. This gave me a bunch of PostScript files which I distilled. I then used Exchange to patch all the files into one PDF. The resulting PDF looked great. The laser printout was also very good. For some reason when I printed out the PDF to my Epson 600 printer on transparency film there was some loss of color. The colors were not as bright as I had hoped. There was also some minor color shifting. Since I only had a couple of color shots, it was not a real problem. Jeffrey M\kern-.05em\raise.5ex\hbox{\b c}\kern-.05emArthur a.k.a. Jeffrey McArthur ATLIS Publishing Services jeffmcarthur@home.com jmcarth@atlis.com http://members.home.net/jeffmcarthur/ Visit Tiglath, a Bronze Age D&D world http://members.home.net/jeffmcarthur/Jeffrey/DandD/Dandd.htm +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Mar-1998 9:50:41-GMT,2348;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA12159 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 02:50:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA16348; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 03:28:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 28 Mar 1998 03:24:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA16200; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 03:24:42 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD5A2B.7C4174C0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Postscript --> PDF Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:22:45 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Friday, 27 March, 1998 17:15, Lex Jansen [SMTP:f.jansen@organon.oss.akzonobel.nl] wrote: > > Hi, > > > I have a question that is basically a Postscript question. > On my department programmers create Postscript files with SAS and I distill > these Postscript files to PDF. > The programmers want to print these Postscript files on a HP Laserjet 4Si from > there VAX/VMS workstation. No problem. > The Postscript files have portrait and landscape pages and have to printed in > duplex. The problem is when I use the setpagedevice operator to get portrait > and landscape the file does not print in duplex anymore. This seems to be inherent in the definition of setpagedevice. When a new device is installed (read: "when setpagedevice is used" and sometimes when "grestore" is used) a new sheet of paper is started. This means you have to do the unsavoury - rotate the pages using the current transformation matrix rather than use setpagedevice in the most obvious way. A pity if you are distilling the pages. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Mar-1998 11:27:56-GMT,4320;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA13737 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 04:27:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA18661; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 05:03:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 28 Mar 1998 04:59:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA18531; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 04:59:08 -0600 Message-ID: <351CD76B.30C@snowhill.com> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 04:56:44 -0600 From: Shaw Nuf Organization: http://www.shawnuf.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Reader opening blank Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:01:27 -0800 > From: Hal Allert > Subject: [PDF] Reader opening blank > > Recently, I have been hearing from users that when they attempt to open > one of our PDF files, the Reader opens as a standalone, but the screen > is blank ================================= Your answer may be in the following tech doc (not reprinted here though) Adobe's tech Document 131323 Title:PDF Pages Appear Blank Inside Web Browser Window Issue Your Adobe Acrobat viewer (i.e., Acrobat Reader or Acrobat Exchange) doesn't display PDF files inside your Web browser window. 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SLayton Shaw CompStat Design Studio +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Mar-1998 19:21:04-GMT,2862;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22577 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:21:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA02313; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:47:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:41:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02086; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:41:16 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD5A79.9348B400.davec@docctrl.com> From: David Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Local Render vs. PDFMaker and Word 97 Headings->Bookmarks Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 18:43:58 -0000 Organization: Computerised Document Control Ltd X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Just thought I'd let you know Local Render is being upgraded with a next release due in late April. Beta will be early April Regards drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat -----Original Message----- From: Schiff, Kenny [SMTP:Kenny.Schiff@rauland.com] Sent: 28 March 1998 00:29 To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: [PDF] Local Render vs. PDFMaker and Word 97 Headings->Bookmarks I've had mixed results with PDFMaker and Word97 headings getting converted to bookmarks. I tried this a few times and got no bookmarks (although I just tried it and it was OK), seems intermittent. I tried out Local Render and it work flawlessly, although with a little less control and automation. What are other people's thoughts on this. Has anyone else had problems with PDFMaker? Kenny Schiff Director Corporate Communications Rauland-Borg Corporation http://www.rauland.com kenny.schiff@rauland.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 28-Mar-1998 21:42:03-GMT,2951;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25028 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 14:42:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA07392; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 15:19:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 28 Mar 1998 15:13:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA06966; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 15:13:45 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 15:24:41 -0600 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] TOC> Emerge ***EXTRA*** 3/27/98 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ============================================================ V.03, N.10 ***Emerge EXTRA*** is now available on the Web: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/extra32798.html ============================================================ The current issue of our Acrobat PDF newsweekly features: + News -- Both Good and Bad -- Is Delivered Via PDF * Several newspapers find ways to report with Acrobat + DataWatch Redwing is "Hot Pick;" Capture v.2.01 Coming SOON * PDF extraction tool hailed; "Paper-to-Web" upgrade ships + "PDF Experts Roundtable" Presses for Acrobat & PDF Changes * Group presents "PDF for Prepress" white paper at Seybold + Latest Acrobat Challenge: Help Make Net More Literary * Publisher turns to Net, PDF to inspire reading, writing + Article - "I Didn't Know Acrobat Could Do That!" * Read this excellent piece & never have to say it again + PageMaker-to-PDF Inspires "Motivation by Sin" * Find out what really makes workers tick - the 'Big Seven' + Recent Subscriber/Reader Feedback * Query: Kudos for PDFzone Website, Reader downloads ... and more. Past issues are available at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/ Subscribe to the email version at: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html rgds~Kurt ---> T h e E m e r g e P D F z o n e <--- "Solutions for PDF Professionals" Kurt Foss Internet Communications Manager EMERGE 800/829-2459 - 608/829-3454 x102 579 D'Onofrio Dr. FAX: 608/829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Mar-1998 0:21:41-GMT,3966;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA27981 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:21:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA12470; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:59:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:55:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA12335; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:55:41 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980328235630.009393a8@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 15:56:30 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Local Render vs. PDFMaker and Word 97 Headings->Bookmarks Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 There are 2 major problems I've discovered so far in PDFMaker: 1. Bookmarks are sometimes only partially created (or not at all); this seems to depend on the number of headings in the source document. 2. The bookmarks are always created with "Fit width" as the view of the link destination. There appears to be no way to override this at the bookmark level. I would avoid PDFMaker for all but casual, small, documents. Larger documents will have problems with PDFMaker because, as far as I can tell, the macro uses the "show outline" method in Word to isolate the heading levels, much as the previously-available PDF macro by Adobe's Joel G. did. I say "as far as I can tell" when describing the PDFMaker macro because Adobe has "locked" the macro, so one cannot even View it in the VBA editor. This is extremely shortsighted on Adobe's part, since some us might actually want to (and be qualified to) fix it! The problem with "show outlines" is that Word cannot display the outline for very large documents (due to memory limitations or whatever), but the macro (apparently) doesn't detect this and therefore will either truncate the bookmark list or simply fail to create any bookmarks at all. Also, you have to use the standard Word Heading names, or you will likely get no bookmarks unless you have properly configured PDFMaker's "Custom Headings" settings. The second problem ("Fit width" on destinations) is also a real show-stopper for me -- I require bookmarks to be created to my exact specifications. PDFMaker has a lot of nice features, and the price is right (FREE), but its limitations are neither documented nor easily detectable during use. So, use it with caution on small-ish documents, and double-check the results. Tom Thiersch At 06:28 PM 3/27/98 -0600, you wrote: > >I've had mixed results with PDFMaker and Word97 headings getting >converted to bookmarks. I tried this a few times and got no bookmarks >(although I just tried it and it was OK), seems intermittent. I tried >out Local Render and it work flawlessly, although with a little less >control and automation. > >What are other people's thoughts on this. Has anyone else had problems >with PDFMaker? > >Kenny Schiff >Director Corporate Communications >Rauland-Borg Corporation >http://www.rauland.com >kenny.schiff@rauland.com > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Mar-1998 15:09:31-GMT,2963;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA13605 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 08:09:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA02038; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 08:40:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 29 Mar 1998 08:33:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA01851; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 08:33:23 -0600 Message-Id: <199803291434.JAA04205@dax.cc.uakron.edu> From: "D. P. Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 09:33:27 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] SetState Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Has anyone had experience using the action SetState? Does is work? Has anyone been successful at making it work? /A << /S /SetState /T {myCkBx} /AS /Crossed >> I've been trying to make this work, but it doesn't seem to do anything. I've created a check box with two appearances [ /_objdef {myCkBx} /Rect [ ....... ] /T (myCkBx) /FT /Btn /F 4 /H /N /AS /Checked /AP << /N << /Checked {xCheck} /Crossed {xCross} >> >> /Subtype /Widget /ANN pdfmark where {xCheck} and {xCross} are XObjects for creating a check and a cross. Aside: This annotation, itself, does not work properly. Even with /AS /Checked, sometimes a cross appears! (This comment has nothing to do with the attempt to use SetState.) Perhaps I'm trying to read into the pdfspec more capabilities than was truely intended. I've tried to use SetState, an an annotation link, to change the value of /AS to /Crossed in hopes of "dynamically" changing the appearance of the checkbox widget. But nothing happens. In the FDF Toolkit there is a SetState function for changing the state using CGI, but the new JavaScript specification does not have a SetState method? Is this no longer being supported? Any help would be appreciated. Regards, dps Dr. D. P. Story Department of Mathematical Sciences The University of Akron Akron, OH 44325 tele: (330) 972-7514 e-mail: dpstory@uakron.edu Home Page: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Home of ... e-Calculus: A Calculus I Tutorial on the WeB. Written in TeX and converted to the PDF format. See it at http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/e-calculus.html and of ... An Algebra Review in 10 Lessons TeX to PDF http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/mpt_home.html +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Mar-1998 18:15:25-GMT,3275;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16665 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 11:15:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA07879; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 11:51:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 29 Mar 1998 11:45:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07699; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 11:45:26 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD5B4A.E370CD10.jernej@4u.net> From: Jernej Zajc To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF Import Filter for PageMaker 6.52 Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 19:40:12 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Kenny, you should find it on Adobe's FTP site in PageMaker directory. It works as promised by Adobe, though it is of limited use. Filter imports a page of PDF as an EPS (encapsulated postscript) which you place on a page. It is uneditable in PageMaker, except that you can resize or stretch it. The procedure is only meant to insert a page "as is" rather than edit it in PM (which would do the hell of a lot of sense and possibly drive me inviting Adobe's PM Project Manager to luxurious dinner). Page in PDF distilled out of PageMaker is practicaly identical to the imported page, with selectable text. I don't know what happens with hidden text produced with Capture, but you probably lose it since it goes through Distiller. When redistilling an imported page from PageMaker I haven't experienced produced PDFs being significantly larger than the originals from which pages were extracted. I assume PageMaker integrates the EPS portion in the PS file to be distilled as if it were produced in PM. The results are pretty much similar as with inserting pages in Exchange (if you don't have Exchange then this is the only way to get the job done, since Reader cannot modify files). It's quite usable if you produce most of PDFs from within PageMaker as I do, especially if you require archiving source PageMaker files for later major changes that Exchange is not supposed to handle, such as adding a chapter and the like. This way you can redistill updated PM source without having to hassle with importing pages after distilling. Jernej -----Original Message----- From: Schiff, Kenny [SMTP:Kenny.Schiff@Rauland.com] Sent: Friday, March 27, 1998 12:35 AM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: [PDF] PDF Import Filter for PageMaker 6.52 I've heard tell of a PDF Import filter for PageMaker 6.52. A visit to Adobe shows that it no longer exists. Anybody have this? If so, does it work? what are the limitations? Kenny Schiff+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 29-Mar-1998 20:48:37-GMT,2019;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA19469 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:48:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA12113; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:51:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:44:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA11703; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:44:46 -0600 Message-ID: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA2713033D@MARS> From: "Schiff, Kenny" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "'support_compose@ambia.com'" Subject: [PDF] "could not find Extended Graphic State named 'GS1' Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:41:24 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I just installed the demo version of Compose 3.3.1 in order to try out the Overlay Tool. The tool does what I need to do, which is to handle "letterhead" for docs that are normally laser printed onto letterhead. After I created a test document, and opened it up in both reader and Exchange, I was presented with the following error: Could not find Extended Graphic State named 'GS1' Is this a Compose bug, an Acrobat bug, or is it user error? The letter head was created using PDF Writer (as opposed to Distiller).... Any ideas. Kenny Schiff Director Corporate Communications Rauland-Borg Corporation http://www.rauland.com kenny.schiff@rauland.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Mar-1998 8:17:42-GMT,1990;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA10370 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 01:17:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA04812; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 01:50:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 01:45:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA04620; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 01:45:38 -0600 Message-ID: <351F4E2F.1489E347@munich.netsurf.de> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:47:59 +0200 From: Richard Urquhart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Overlay and pagination Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Dear list members, For appendices (containing e.g. scanned investigator CVs) to clinical trial reports we need a versatile tool for overlaying headers including pagination. I know of Ambia's Compose (of which I have an evaluation version) and of PDF fusion (have not contacted them yet for trial software). Is there any other solution? How do Compose and PDFfusion compare for this task? The headers must look something like this: 'Sponsor / Drug Code / Study Code / Version / Date / Appendix X page Y of Z' An option to have Y and Z calculated automatically would be very helpful. Many thanks Richard Urquhart VERUM STATICON Senior Medical Writer +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Mar-1998 12:04:49-GMT,2923;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA14298 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 05:04:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA10749; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 05:43:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 05:40:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA10679; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 05:40:47 -0600 Message-ID: <001c01bd5bd0$dc255040$3b025ed1@rich> From: "Rich George" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Overlay and pagination Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 06:41:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Richard, PDFfusion will do what you need. It is very flexible and stable and very well supported by its developers. "An option to have Y and Z calculated automatically . . . " PDFfusion does that very nicely, plus much more. Rich George, MD enVision Sciences, LLC rgeorge@envisionsci.com Web site: http://www.envisionsci.com -----Original Message----- From: Richard Urquhart To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Date: Monday, March 30, 1998 2:57 AM Subject: [PDF] Overlay and pagination > >Dear list members, > >For appendices (containing e.g. scanned investigator CVs) to clinical >trial reports we need a versatile tool for overlaying headers including >pagination. I know of Ambia's Compose (of which I have an evaluation >version) and of PDF fusion (have not contacted them yet for trial >software). Is there any other solution? How do Compose and PDFfusion >compare for this task? > >The headers must look something like this: >'Sponsor / Drug Code / Study Code / Version / Date / Appendix >X page Y of Z' > >An option to have Y and Z calculated automatically would be very >helpful. > >Many thanks > >Richard Urquhart >VERUM STATICON >Senior Medical Writer > > >+---------------------------------------------------------- --------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+---------------------------------------------------------- --------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Mar-1998 13:34:21-GMT,3689;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15756 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 06:34:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA13249; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 07:08:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 07:04:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA13060; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 07:04:47 -0600 Message-ID: <003801bd5bdb$d9760dc0$1f40dec2@nplum.demon.co.uk> From: Nic Plum To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, thiersch@env-sol.com MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at post.mail.demon.net Subject: Re: [PDF] Local Render vs. PDFMaker and Word 97 Headings->Bookmarks Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:47:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 1. You can hardly blame Adobe for trying to protect their investment - pdfMaker is in exactly the same situation here as any other commercial software including Local Render - development has to proceed in a controlled way. 2.0 Low Memory and Outline View 2.1 The low memory problem with Word 97 and large documents is interesting. I suspect this would therefore be a problem for both products since Word behaves very strangely when at the limits of memory and accessing Word either from inside via a template or externally using VB is going to be problematical when the source/server app is about to fall over. A macro cannot by itself determine therefore when Word is approaching these limits, which as stated cause it to sometimes not display the document in outline view - in fact actually activating a macro may itself contribute to a low memory condition. There are some things which can be done to mitigate against this which I assume Adobe know about. 2.2 Using outline view to collect information about what is a heading and how it relates to others is the most sensible and simplest approach since Word doesn't expose the automatic heading numbering and searching for any heading level or successive heading levels and piecing it all back together is problematical. In any case the problem is not that Adobe use Outline View it is that Word '97 runs out of memory (or isn't very good, like most MS Office apps at managing it). Given that pdfMaker is free I don't think you're being very fair on them - a lot of the limitations are in the fact that people expect Word to behave like a full blown DTP package which it clearly is not intended or able to do. Nic. _____________________________________________________________________ Buckden, < www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/ > Huntingdon, For information management and Cambs, Adobe Acrobat integration from UK. within your favourite PE18 9SZ wordprocessor _____________________________________________________________________ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Mar-1998 13:38:03-GMT,1807;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15819 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 06:38:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA13999; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 07:26:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 07:23:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA13857; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 07:23:40 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD5BB5.F1FC64A0@NET PC.WPAFB.AF.MIL> From: "Scott M. Albright" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] PAGEMAKER Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:29:15 -0800 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We are in the process of purchasing PageMaker to add to our list of software. Does anyone know of a good website that may give me further information dealing with PageMaker? I would prefer one with tips and maybe bug reports, etc... I realize I may not get this, but a guy can hope right? (and please don't refer me to the Adobe page.... not very helpful....) thanks, Scott ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------- Scott M. Albright (LOGTEC) AF PDSM Program Office TO Conversion Operation (TOCO) (937) 427-3085 ext380 E-mail: albrigs@pdgate01.wpafb.af.mil +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Mar-1998 14:24:21-GMT,3855;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA16760 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 07:24:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA15653; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:03:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:01:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA15548; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:01:15 -0600 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:03:23 -0500 From: Theresa Clay Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF Import Filter for PageMaker 6.52 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: <852565D7.004D0CD9.00@ctc2.ap.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Lotus-FromDomain: THEAP Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I just went to the adobe site and i can't find this filter either. Jernej, do you have the exact url?? -theresa clay From: Jernej Zajc on 03/29/98 05:40 PM GMT Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" cc: (bcc: Theresa Clay/TheAP) Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF Import Filter for PageMaker 6.52 Kenny, you should find it on Adobe's FTP site in PageMaker directory. It works as promised by Adobe, though it is of limited use. Filter imports a page of PDF as an EPS (encapsulated postscript) which you place on a page. It is uneditable in PageMaker, except that you can resize or stretch it. The procedure is only meant to insert a page "as is" rather than edit it in PM (which would do the hell of a lot of sense and possibly drive me inviting Adobe's PM Project Manager to luxurious dinner). Page in PDF distilled out of PageMaker is practicaly identical to the imported page, with selectable text. I don't know what happens with hidden text produced with Capture, but you probably lose it since it goes through Distiller. When redistilling an imported page from PageMaker I haven't experienced produced PDFs being significantly larger than the originals from which pages were extracted. I assume PageMaker integrates the EPS portion in the PS file to be distilled as if it were produced in PM. The results are pretty much similar as with inserting pages in Exchange (if you don't have Exchange then this is the only way to get the job done, since Reader cannot modify files). It's quite usable if you produce most of PDFs from within PageMaker as I do, especially if you require archiving source PageMaker files for later major changes that Exchange is not supposed to handle, such as adding a chapter and the like. This way you can redistill updated PM source without having to hassle with importing pages after distilling. Jernej -----Original Message----- From: Schiff, Kenny [SMTP:Kenny.Schiff@Rauland.com] Sent: Friday, March 27, 1998 12:35 AM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: [PDF] PDF Import Filter for PageMaker 6.52 I've heard tell of a PDF Import filter for PageMaker 6.52. A visit to Adobe shows that it no longer exists. Anybody have this? If so, does it work? what are the limitations? Kenny Schiff+-------------------------------------------------------------------- ----+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Mar-1998 14:29:10-GMT,1579;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA16820 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 07:29:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA16091; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:11:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:06:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA15771; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:06:58 -0600 From: kelly_fisher@deltahealth.com Message-Id: <9803308912.AA891266902@deltahealth.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.11.00.3 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 98 09:08:09 -0500 To: Subject: [PDF] pdf and sgml MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Does anyone have any good information on sgml files? I am in the process of putting documentation on CD and on the Internet and am struggling with which road I should take - .pdf files or .sgml files. Does anyone know any of the pros and cons of each of them? Thank you. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Mar-1998 14:29:17-GMT,2723;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA16824 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 07:29:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA16094; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:11:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:08:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA15837; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:08:06 -0600 Message-ID: <351FA7F2.AB388C90@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 06:10:59 -0800 From: William Belk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PAGEMAKER References: <01BD5BB5.F1FC64A0@NET PC.WPAFB.AF.MIL> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Scott, Unless you are absolutely committed to using PageMaker, you might consider FrameMaker (also by Adobe). I use it extensively in my civilian job (under contract to US DOE) and as an Air Force reservist at Nellis. FrameMaker is optimized for producing technical documentation. If you're interested, go to www.FrameUsers.com for more info. Regards, William Belk Document Production Manager IT Corporation Scott M. Albright wrote: > We are in the process of purchasing PageMaker to add to our list of > software. Does anyone know of a good website that may give me further > information dealing with PageMaker? > > I would prefer one with tips and maybe bug reports, etc... I realize I may > not get this, but a guy can hope right? > > (and please don't refer me to the Adobe page.... not very helpful....) > > thanks, > Scott > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > --------------------------------- > Scott M. Albright (LOGTEC) > AF PDSM Program Office > TO Conversion Operation (TOCO) > (937) 427-3085 ext380 > E-mail: albrigs@pdgate01.wpafb.af.mil > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Mar-1998 14:31:30-GMT,2091;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA16913 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 07:31:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA15586; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:01:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 07:59:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA15418; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 07:59:16 -0600 Message-Id: <98Mar30.150034gmt+0100.22402-1@baz-s-fw.baz.ch> From: Yannick WOLF To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Byteserving PDFs Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:06:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id HAA15414 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi all, We are attempting to implement Byteserving on our web server Apache 1.2.5, in order to byteserve some of our pdf docs. We are using the version 3.01 of the Acrobat Reader, and our pdf files are optimized. My PC runs under NT4 , SP3. It works quite good when we use Netscape 4.03 ( multiple GET, "small" dowmloaded chunks). Impressive !!! BUT with IE 4.0 (version 4.72.2106.8), byteserving doen't work ! It downloads 2 small chunks of 8192 bits, and then the rest of the file (which can be realy huge)! What do I wrong? Is there something special to define for Internet Explorer? Can anybody shed light on this with a few hints on how to get this to work? Regards, Yannick Wolf CD-ROM Development Basler Zeitung y.wolf@baz.ch +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Mar-1998 14:44:19-GMT,2476;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17191 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 07:44:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA16333; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:16:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:13:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA16165; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:13:05 -0600 MR-Received: by mta MIMAS.MUAS; Relayed; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:14:39 +0000 MR-Received: by mta VESTA; Relayed; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:15:40 +0000 Disclose-recipients: prohibited Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:14:39 +0000 (GMT) From: Lex Jansen Subject: RE: [PDF] Postscript --> PDF To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-id: <6339141630031998/A15655/MIMAS/11C3F40E2600*@MHS> Autoforwarded: false MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential UA-content-id: 11C3F40E2600 X400-MTS-identifier: [;6339141630031998/A15655/MIMAS] Hop-count: 1 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Aandi Inston wrote: > This seems to be inherent in the definition of setpagedevice. > > When a new device is installed (read: "when setpagedevice is used" and > sometimes > when "grestore" is used) a new sheet of paper is started. > This means you have to do the unsavoury - rotate the pages using the current > transformation matrix rather than use setpagedevice in the most obvious way. > A pity if you are distilling the pages. Anadi, I could use transformation matrix, together with: <> setdistillerparams In the Acrobat Distiller Parameters manual it says: "Distiller tries to orient pages based on the predominant text orientation." Does anyone have more information on the vague concept of predominant text orientation. Wat is important here ? The size or the number of characters ? In short: how can I force Distiller to "correctly" rotate. Lex Jansen +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Mar-1998 15:14:28-GMT,3593;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA17846 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:14:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA17663; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:42:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:39:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA17482; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:39:01 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980330064223.006c3274@mailhost.fourgen.com> X-Sender: scotth@mailhost.fourgen.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 06:42:23 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Scott Hamlow Subject: Re: [PDF] PAGEMAKER In-Reply-To: <351FA7F2.AB388C90@ix.netcom.com> References: <01BD5BB5.F1FC64A0@NET PC.WPAFB.AF.MIL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I whole-heartedly agree with William's observation. I have used PageMaker in the past, but now use FrameMaker. I'm not saying PageMaker isn't a good product, it just depends on what you are doing. If you're doing newsletters or other small documents <100 pages, PageMaker works pretty well. However, if you're doing multi-chapter big documents, go with FrameMaker. At 06:10 AM 3/30/98 -0800, you wrote: > >Scott, > >Unless you are absolutely committed to using PageMaker, you might consider >FrameMaker (also by Adobe). I use it extensively in my civilian job (under >contract to US DOE) and as an Air Force reservist at Nellis. FrameMaker is >optimized for producing technical documentation. > >If you're interested, go to www.FrameUsers.com for more info. > >Regards, > >William Belk >Document Production Manager >IT Corporation > >Scott M. Albright wrote: > >> We are in the process of purchasing PageMaker to add to our list of >> software. Does anyone know of a good website that may give me further >> information dealing with PageMaker? >> >> I would prefer one with tips and maybe bug reports, etc... I realize I may >> not get this, but a guy can hope right? >> >> (and please don't refer me to the Adobe page.... not very helpful....) >> >> thanks, >> Scott >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> --------------------------------- >> Scott M. Albright (LOGTEC) >> AF PDSM Program Office >> TO Conversion Operation (TOCO) >> (937) 427-3085 ext380 >> E-mail: albrigs@pdgate01.wpafb.af.mil >> >> +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >> + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >> +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Mar-1998 15:55:12-GMT,1759;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA18878 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:55:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA19901; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:20:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:16:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19664; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:16:22 -0600 Message-ID: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA27130344@MARS> From: "Schiff, Kenny" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "'thiersch@env-sol.com'" Subject: Re: [PDF] Local Render vs. PDFMaker and Word 97 Headings->Bookmar ks Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:13:05 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >> Bookmarks are sometimes only partially created (or not at all); this >> seems to depend on the number of headings in the source >> document. [KS] I've experienced this, and it was hard to tell why. > I would avoid PDFMaker for all but casual, small, documents. [KS] Does Local Render overcome these limitiations? Also, do you think that Adobe is going to address these limitation +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Mar-1998 15:57:58-GMT,1879;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA18960 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:57:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA20218; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:25:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:21:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19957; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:21:58 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980330092051.006a7e30@omnipress.com> X-Sender: uschan@omnipress.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:21:03 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Christopher Uschan Subject: [PDF] Error Message Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Receiving a "Bad Parameter" message when I open a document. This continues with my system locking up. (win95, pentium, 32M RAM... high end machine) This file locks up some computers and other computers it does not have any problems. What would cause this...? why only on random machines...? These documents are scanned in PDF image + text. Please do not respond to recreate the file <<---- not an option. thanks, Christopher Uschan ---------------------------------------------------- Technology Manager - OMNIPRESS ph: 608-246-2600 fax: 608-246-4237 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Mar-1998 16:01:21-GMT,4279;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19049 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:01:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA20700; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:32:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:29:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA20386; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:29:05 -0600 Message-ID: <351FBA99.D1A4FF3E@beacon.com> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:30:33 -0500 From: "Cory Snavely" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf and sgml References: <9803308912.AA891266902@deltahealth.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 kelly_fisher@deltahealth.com wrote: > > Does anyone have any good information on sgml files? I am in the process of > putting documentation on CD and on the Internet and am struggling with which > road I should take - .pdf files or .sgml files. Does anyone know any of the pros > and cons of each of them? This scratches the surface of a very large issue. PDF and SGML shouldn't really be compared apples-to-apples. In fact, it may be a little inappropriate to consider them as either/or for your project--they can coexist quite happily and often do. So your concern is valid, but the comparison should be made for strategic reasons, not purely technical ones. SGML is an ISO standard (8879) metalanguage that is designed to manage electronic content, involving authoring to distribution, and even back through revision and redistribution, etc. SGML lets you create your own custom markup to fit your documents, and provides a vendor-neutral [arguably] and platform- and medium-independent file format to store it. PDF is simply a de facto standard language that is designed primarily to store and present content in a transportable way. Given that, it is likely that an SGML solution will be bigger in *scope* than a PDF solution. For example, a PDF solution will likely require relatively little rethinking of the tools used to produce your documentation. SGML, on the other hand, will probably lead to rethinking a lot of your processes, if done correctly. The choice of delivery technology is also impacted. A PDF solution will use primarily Acrobat Reader. An SGML solution will use any one of a number of prepackaged display technologies, or custom in-house conversion solutions (like conversion to HTML), or it may even drive multiple display technologies from the same source content (e.g. CD-ROM and WWW). It's for reasons like this that I've seen many companies with a long-term interest in SGML and an immediate need to make content available electronically, turn to PDF. For a number of our projects, we capture content in SGML, but PDF is used for delivery to the end user. I don't mean to make SGML sound difficult and unattractive, but only that integrating it properly is a much more fundamental change than integrating PDF. Then again, it's application can be much more broad than could ever be achieved with PDF [arguably]. Either can be the right solution--it depends on how you view the need. I'm darn glad we have both--both are needed. Now, here are some pointers. Depending on the type of documentation you are preparing, tools such as SoftQuad Author/Editor, ArborText ADEPT Editor/Publisher, and Inso DynaText may be things to consider. You may also be interested in the emerging technologies XML and XSL, which are all the buzz. Also check out http://www.infotek.no/sgmltool/guide.htm for a very thorough listing of SGML-related tools and vendors. Cory Snavely The Beacon Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Mar-1998 16:37:17-GMT,1681;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20029 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:37:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA22300; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:00:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:56:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA22008; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:56:32 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Marino, Kristine" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF as standards Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:59:19 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hello all, I am looking for any documentaion where PDF has ben adopted as the online document standard by the FDA, and/or DoD? Any direction would be appreciated. Thanks! Kristine Marino -------------------------------------------- Kristine Marino Technology Resource Centers, Inc. 649 North Lewis Road Limerick, PA 19468 Voice: (610) 495-3043 x215 Fax: (610) 495-3092 kmarino@techcent.com www.techcent.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Mar-1998 16:38:09-GMT,1836;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20070 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:38:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA23041; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:12:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:08:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA22789; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:08:27 -0600 Message-ID: <351FC436.8C41FFA1@primary.net> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:11:34 -0600 From: Randy Hoggard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Screenshots for conversion to PDF References: <199803281841.MAA02103@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > Beth, I perform the same function you describe, for software manuals. With making just one change to your methodology, your results may improve; Try changing the view magnification on your finished PDF. I have found my shots look best at 135%. After you find a magnification that works best for you, you can of course, force that view on the user with either Page Open, or Document Open magnifications commands before doing your Save As. Randy Hoggard INSIGHT System Analyst Moog Automotive +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Mar-1998 16:40:32-GMT,2825;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20105 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:40:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA23311; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:16:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:12:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23124; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:12:54 -0600 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <882565D7.00589ECC.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:12:44 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Overlay and pagination Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Richard: We use Compose for overlaying a submission specific header and footer (consisting of a page number). And, although, we do occasionally encounter minor glitches, for the most part, it works extremely well. And we've done this for some very large submissions! I've heard a lot of good things about PDFusion, however, it is way over our budget! Sue Richard Urquhart on 03/29/98 11:47:59 PM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] Overlay and pagination Dear list members, For appendices (containing e.g. scanned investigator CVs) to clinical trial reports we need a versatile tool for overlaying headers including pagination. I know of Ambia's Compose (of which I have an evaluation version) and of PDF fusion (have not contacted them yet for trial software). Is there any other solution? How do Compose and PDFfusion compare for this task? The headers must look something like this: 'Sponsor / Drug Code / Study Code / Version / Date / Appendix X page Y of Z' An option to have Y and Z calculated automatically would be very helpful. Many thanks Richard Urquhart VERUM STATICON Senior Medical Writer +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Mar-1998 16:42:51-GMT,2309;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20168 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:42:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA23565; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:21:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:17:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23372; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:17:26 -0600 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <882565D7.00593F9B.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 08:17:21 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf and sgml Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 This question was covered in great detail just recently - can you get to the archives? Check just during the past 2-3 weeks. Although, I see another message from C.Snavely on this subject and his comments always seem to get right to the point and offer good insight - his response may be all you need. Sue kelly_fisher@deltahealth.com on 03/30/98 06:08:09 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] pdf and sgml Does anyone have any good information on sgml files? I am in the process of putting documentation on CD and on the Internet and am struggling with which road I should take - .pdf files or .sgml files. Does anyone know any of the pros and cons of each of them? Thank you. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Mar-1998 17:02:34-GMT,2274;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20725 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:02:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA24459; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:35:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:32:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA24221; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:31:58 -0600 Message-ID: <001201bd5c02$c4a6d600$4eacf482@ulf> From: "Ulf Andersson" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf and sgml Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:39:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 SGML is a standard to mark up the text it has nothing to do with distribution. Use PDF. Regards Ulf -----Original Message----- From: kelly_fisher@deltahealth.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: den 30 mars 1998 18:14 Subject: [PDF] pdf and sgml > > >Does anyone have any good information on sgml files? I am in the process of >putting documentation on CD and on the Internet and am struggling with which >road I should take - .pdf files or .sgml files. Does anyone know any of the pros >and cons of each of them? > >Thank you. > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Mar-1998 18:43:35-GMT,2612;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA23480 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 11:43:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA29626; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:11:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:06:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA29414; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:06:26 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD5C0F.7977C880.davec@docctrl.com> From: David Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF as standards Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:07:43 +0100 Organization: Computerised Document Control Ltd X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Kristine Check out: http://www.fda.gov/cder/guidance/index.htm --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat -----Original Message----- From: Marino, Kristine [SMTP:KMarino@techcent.com] Sent: 30 March 1998 16:59 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF as standards Hello all, I am looking for any documentaion where PDF has ben adopted as the online document standard by the FDA, and/or DoD? Any direction would be appreciated. Thanks! Kristine Marino -------------------------------------------- Kristine Marino Technology Resource Centers, Inc. 649 North Lewis Road Limerick, PA 19468 Voice: (610) 495-3043 x215 Fax: (610) 495-3092 kmarino@techcent.com www.techcent.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Mar-1998 21:05:12-GMT,1938;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27142 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 14:05:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA03998; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 14:19:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 14:14:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA03734; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 14:14:11 -0600 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CHAMPION INTERNATIONAL From: "Rick Bishop" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852565D7.006E2DFA.00@KBNOTES07.champint.com> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:15:16 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Word 97 Headings->Bookmaks Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >>>[KS] Does Local Render overcome these >>limitiations? Also, do you think that Adobe is >>going to address these limitations?<<< I don't believe this is a problem Adobe will solve. This has been inherent in MS Word for Windows for years, and has nothing to do with any Adobe product. Get any Word file over 20MB and watch things start to unravel. Some develop problems at 17 MB, others have been known to go as high as 32MB before locking up or refusing to save. Word is not meant to run over 15MB. If you must get bigger, better to link ALL graphics to keep file size down; regardless of end use. As the man says, Word is NOT intended for publishing. Rick Bishop +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Mar-1998 21:39:47-GMT,1787;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27966 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 14:39:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA06890; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:10:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:09:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA06782; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:09:04 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD5C28.9D6DADE0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Postscript --> PDF Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 22:09:02 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Monday, 30 March, 1998 17:15, Lex Jansen [SMTP:f.jansen@organon.oss.akzonobel.nl] wrote: > "Distiller tries to orient pages based on the predominant text orientation." > > Does anyone have more information on the vague concept of predominant text > orientation. Wat is important here ? The size or the number of characters ? > In short: how can I force Distiller to "correctly" rotate. When I did some experimentation, it was the number of characters. Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 30-Mar-1998 22:34:20-GMT,2582;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29274 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:34:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA09019; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:54:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:52:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA08907; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:52:16 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Hiatt, Mike" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF as standards Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:57:26 -0600 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Talk to your Adobe rep. They are currently running a series of free seminars to promote FrameMaker and Acrobat and proudly trumpet the fact that PDF is not accepted by the FDA and courts for evidence. Your Adobe rep should be more than helpful in providing documentation of such use of Acrobat, especially if it means you're going to buy Acrobat. :-) Mike Hiatt Sr. Tech Writer Intecom Inc. > -----Original Message----- > From: Marino, Kristine [SMTP:KMarino@techcent.com] > Sent: Monday, March 30, 1998 9:59 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] PDF as standards > > > Hello all, I am looking for any documentaion where PDF has ben adopted > as the online document standard by the FDA, and/or DoD? > Any direction would be appreciated. Thanks! > > Kristine Marino > > -------------------------------------------- > Kristine Marino > Technology Resource Centers, Inc. > 649 North Lewis Road > Limerick, PA 19468 > Voice: (610) 495-3043 x215 > Fax: (610) 495-3092 > kmarino@techcent.com > www.techcent.com > > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Mar-1998 0:00:01-GMT,1526;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02679 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:59:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA13919; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:31:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:29:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA13806; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:29:14 -0600 Message-Id: <199803302330.BAA18409@d1o202.telia.com> Subject: [PDF] Applescript . . . Date: Tue, 31 Mar 98 01:28:01 +0100 x-sender: u222600675@m1.2226.telia.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Richard Taubo To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi! Does anyone know if it is possible to create links *between* pdf documents using Applescript?!? Is there a smart way to record the location of a specific word in a document as well? Thanks for any help . . :) Richard Taubo Bergersen -- Oslo, Norway +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Mar-1998 0:02:11-GMT,3726;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02731 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:02:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA14329; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:38:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:36:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA14157; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:36:15 -0600 Message-ID: <352036BB.23010A82@glyphica.com> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:20:11 -0800 From: "D. Paknad" Organization: Glyphica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF as standards References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 You might also check PurePDF. In the Acrobat in Action/Government section, you'll find a range of government agencies and the ways they are using Acrobat. Over 100 agencies are using Acrobat; we've listed about 15 higher- profile agencies in PurePDF. FDA is included -- look for an update on their position in the April issue (due out on Wednesday). http://www.purePDF.com -Deidre .......................................... Glyphica Acrobat and Web Publishing http://www.glyphica.com 650/428-1800 PurePDF: The Acrobat Info Source on the Web http://www.purePDF.com .......................................... Hiatt, Mike wrote: > Talk to your Adobe rep. They are currently running a series of free seminars > to promote FrameMaker and Acrobat and proudly trumpet the fact that PDF is > not accepted by the FDA and courts for evidence. Your Adobe rep should be > more than helpful in providing documentation of such use of Acrobat, > especially if it means you're going to buy Acrobat. :-) > > Mike Hiatt > Sr. Tech Writer > Intecom Inc. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Marino, Kristine [SMTP:KMarino@techcent.com] > > Sent: Monday, March 30, 1998 9:59 AM > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Subject: [PDF] PDF as standards > > > > > > Hello all, I am looking for any documentaion where PDF has ben adopted > > as the online document standard by the FDA, and/or DoD? > > Any direction would be appreciated. Thanks! > > > > Kristine Marino > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > Kristine Marino > > Technology Resource Centers, Inc. > > 649 North Lewis Road > > Limerick, PA 19468 > > Voice: (610) 495-3043 x215 > > Fax: (610) 495-3092 > > kmarino@techcent.com > > www.techcent.com > > > > > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Mar-1998 0:04:11-GMT,6206;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02790 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:04:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA13570; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:24:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:19:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA13337; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:19:17 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD5BEF.6C619DD0@marshall2100.autoiii.com> From: Geoff Marshall To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Postscript --> PDF Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:20:49 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD5BEF.6C619DD0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD5BEF.6C619DD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The underlying PostScript model will rotate 90 degrees clockwise any page whose width is greater than it's height. This has nothing to do with the number of characters or their orientation, just the physical page dimensions. Could this be the source of the inconsistency ? -----Original Message----- From: Aandi Inston [SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] Sent: Monday, March 30, 1998 1:09 PM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] Postscript --> PDF On Monday, 30 March, 1998 17:15, Lex Jansen [SMTP:f.jansen@organon.oss.akzonobel.nl] wrote: > "Distiller tries to orient pages based on the predominant text orientation." > > Does anyone have more information on the vague concept of predominant text > orientation. Wat is important here ? The size or the number of characters ? > In short: how can I force Distiller to "correctly" rotate. When I did some experimentation, it was the number of characters. 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Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:16:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA24939; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:47:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:44:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA24792; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:44:10 -0600 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 13:36:08 PST From: "Rachow,Wayne" Subject: [PDF] looking for sample e-size eng. drawing To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: <61132035818329766113203581832976#064#X-MC-0868-MS1.xerox@SMF> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:49:49 -0500 Hop-count: 3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Can anyone point me toward a sample of an E-size engineering drawing done in pdf? (Wanna see how it comes out!) TIA Wayne +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Mar-1998 4:22:21-GMT,2348;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA15619 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:22:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA26157; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 22:14:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 22:11:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA26016; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 22:11:40 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980331041231.00d6be44@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 20:12:31 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: RE: [PDF] Postscript --> PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 You can force Distiller to orient pages using the /SetDistillerParms AutoRotatePages function. The DISTPARM.PDF guide provides some details on this, along with the "example.ps" in the Distiller/Startup folder. At 10:09 PM 3/30/98 +0100, you wrote: > > > >On Monday, 30 March, 1998 17:15, Lex Jansen [SMTP:f.jansen@organon.oss.akzonobel.nl] wrote: >> "Distiller tries to orient pages based on the predominant text orientation." >> >> Does anyone have more information on the vague concept of predominant text >> orientation. Wat is important here ? The size or the number of characters ? >> In short: how can I force Distiller to "correctly" rotate. > >When I did some experimentation, it was the number of characters. > >Aandi >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Mar-1998 10:04:57-GMT,8079;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA12591 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 03:04:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA02190; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 03:24:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Mar 1998 03:15:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA01995; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 03:15:55 -0600 Message-ID: <004201bd5c85$c3217f00$1f40dec2@nplum.demon.co.uk> From: "Nic Plum" To: , , Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [PDF] Local Render vs. PDFMaker and Word 97 Headings->Bookmarks Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:14:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I must have selected the wrong reply address! Jim - there are ways to trick Word and save memory. Although I know only WordBasic well I'm sure this has carried across into VBA. One way is to force Word to clear the memory associated with carrying the last 100 actions for undoing. In WordBasic this would look like:- Sub ClearUndoList Dim dlg As ToolsRevisions GetCurValues dlg ToolsRevisions .MarkRevisions = Abs(dlg.MarkRevisions - 1) ToolsRevisions .MarkRevisions = dlg.MarkRevisions End Sub ... which you then call repeatedly after a series of edits or operations on the document. The next stage, in terms of desperation is to save the document as a new document and close the old one down - the new document need only be temporary. The other possibility trading speed for memory would be to store the heading/bookmark information in an external file for later use. This depends on how and when the information is needed. If people have more than a few hundred headings in a document they really either need to consider splitting the document (don't use the Master Document feature - it only aggravates problems!) or better still use an application designed to handle large documents - not Word! In any case do people really read documents that are this large? I suspect they skim them at best and it has to be arguable whether a document this large is really an efficient way of communicating ;-) Nic. _____________________________________________________________________ Buckden, < www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/ > Huntingdon, For information management and Cambs, Adobe Acrobat integration from UK. within your favourite PE18 9SZ wordprocessor _____________________________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Jim Cole To: thiersch@env-sol.com Cc: nic@nplum.demon.co.uk Date: 30 March 1998 18:13 Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [PDF] Local Render vs. PDFMaker and Word 97 Headings->Bookmarks >Tom, someone forwarded this posting of yours to me. Let me address the two points. The bookmark creation problem is not related to Word's outline view; PDFMaker does not use Word's outline view at all. A bug in PDFMaker's code loses track of any headings after the 50th. This bug will be fixed in the next release. > >Even with this fix, if your document has more than a few hundred headings, my testing shows that Word consumes all of the GDI memory heap while PDFMaker is creating bookmarks. So far, I haven't found a reliable way to force Word to free this memory. Thus, it appears that there will be a de facto limit on the number of bookmarks PDFMaker can create. > >The next release may allow the user to specify the zoom type for the various types of links; the feature set for this release hasn't been decided yet, though. > >Jim > > >> >> >X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com >> >X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) >> >Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 15:56:30 -0800 >> >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> >From: Tom Thiersch >> >Subject: Re: [PDF] Local Render vs. PDFMaker and Word 97 >> > Headings->Bookmarks >> >Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> >Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> >X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >> > >> > >> >There are 2 major problems I've discovered so far in PDFMaker: >> > >> > 1. Bookmarks are sometimes only partially created (or not at all); this >> >seems to depend on the number of headings in the source document. >> > >> > 2. The bookmarks are always created with "Fit width" as the view of the >> >link destination. There appears to be no way to override this at the >> >bookmark level. >> > >> >I would avoid PDFMaker for all but casual, small, documents. >> > >> >Larger documents will have problems with PDFMaker because, as far as I can >> >tell, the macro uses the "show outline" method in Word to isolate the >> >heading levels, much as the previously-available PDF macro by Adobe's Joel >> >G. did. >> > >> >I say "as far as I can tell" when describing the PDFMaker macro because >> >Adobe has "locked" the macro, so one cannot even View it in the VBA editor. >> >This is extremely shortsighted on Adobe's part, since some us might actually >> >want to (and be qualified to) fix it! >> > >> >The problem with "show outlines" is that Word cannot display the outline for >> >very large documents (due to memory limitations or whatever), but the macro >> >(apparently) doesn't detect this and therefore will either truncate the >> >bookmark list or simply fail to create any bookmarks at all. Also, you have >> >to use the standard Word Heading names, or you will likely get no bookmarks >> >unless you have properly configured PDFMaker's "Custom Headings" settings. >> > >> >The second problem ("Fit width" on destinations) is also a real show-stopper >> >for me -- I require bookmarks to be created to my exact specifications. >> > >> >PDFMaker has a lot of nice features, and the price is right (FREE), but its >> >limitations are neither documented nor easily detectable during use. So, >> >use it with caution on small-ish documents, and double-check the results. >> > >> >Tom Thiersch >> > >> > >> > >> >At 06:28 PM 3/27/98 -0600, you wrote: >> >> >> >>I've had mixed results with PDFMaker and Word97 headings getting >> >>converted to bookmarks. I tried this a few times and got no bookmarks >> >>(although I just tried it and it was OK), seems intermittent. I tried >> >>out Local Render and it work flawlessly, although with a little less >> >>control and automation. >> >> >> >>What are other people's thoughts on this. Has anyone else had problems >> >>with PDFMaker? >> >> >> >>Kenny Schiff >> >>Director Corporate Communications >> >>Rauland-Borg Corporation >> >>http://www.rauland.com >> >>kenny.schiff@rauland.com >> >> >> >>+------------------------------------------------------------------- -----+ >> >>+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >> >>+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >> >>+------------------------------------------------------------------- -----+ >> >> >> > >> >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- ----+ >> >> >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >> >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >> >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- ----+ >> > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Mar-1998 17:25:51-GMT,3274;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25783 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:25:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA18335; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:48:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:47:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA18270; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:47:17 -0600 Message-ID: <81E713C85DDCD011B2F500805F317CFBA8C3CF@xch-rtn-14.ca.boeing.com> From: "Hayhurst, Stephen D" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Postscript --> PDF Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:48:27 -0800 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I have seen the orientation issue show up in two interesting scenarios: 1. If we create a landscape PDF page with a full page color photo on it, Distiller will change the orientation from landscape to portrait every time. Usually these pages have NO text or characters on it. If they do it is only the text /field navigation buttons described in #2. 2. We are creating text navigation buttons (in fields) for the presentations and find that SOMETIMES, the navigation buttons will be rotated on the screen from < > to ^ v on the pages Distiller rotated to portrait. This does not occur all the time or on all machines either. --Steve - -----Original Message----- >The underlying PostScript model will rotate 90 degrees clockwise any >page whose width is greater than it's height. This has nothing to do >with the number of characters or their orientation, just the physical page >dimensions. > >Could this be the source of the inconsistency ? > >>- -----Original Original Message----- >>From: Aandi Inston [SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] >>Sent: Monday, March 30, 1998 1:09 PM >>To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' >>Subject: RE: [PDF] Postscript --> PDF >> >>On Monday, 30 March, 1998 17:15, Lex Jansen [SMTP:f.jansen@organon.oss.akzonobel.nl] wrote: >> "Distiller tries to orient pages based on the predominant text orientation." >> >>Does anyone have more information on the vague concept of predominant text >>orientation. Wat is important here ? The size or the number of characters ? >>In short: how can I force Distiller to "correctly" rotate. >> >>When I did some experimentation, it was the number of characters. >> >>Aandi --Steve Hayhurst _______________________________________ Stephen Hayhurst Process & Marketing Support Analyst--CamTek Bldg 10-65.2 26D8 phone: 425.965.1124 or page: 206.986.3048 E-mail: stephen.hayhurst@pss.boeing.com or 2069863048@mobile.att.net Standard Disclaimer applies. "If it's tourist season, why can't we shoot 'em?" +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Mar-1998 17:28:38-GMT,10365;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25917 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:28:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA16438; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:16:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:13:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16233; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:13:47 -0600 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <882565D8.0056A077.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:12:47 -0800 Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [PDF] Local Render vs. PDFMaker and Word 97 Headings ->Bookmarks Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We work with Word 7 so I'm not sure if this is true in Word 97. But, if the number of headings in a document is the culprit in your bookmark creation process, this might help. We create very long documents using Word. We never use the Master document feature - it does create problems! To save file space we link graphics to the files rather than saving them with the file, and we save, close, and reopen the document often. All this helps, but there is another feature that we use and I think it should help you create the long docs in Word 97, too. We separate each section into separate documents. We format the heading numbers to begin with the appropriate number (Section 8 document headings are formatted to begin at 8). We format the page numbering of each document (if we include a page number!) to begin with the correct number (open each document and check last page#, start each new document with next #) We create a separate TOC document using the following steps From Menu select: Tools>Options: Select ?view field codes? and ?show hidden text? Insert>file: select file, select ?link to file?, OK if there?s a TOC in the separate document, you'll be see a question something like this: "do you want to replace or update page numbers" select update page#s.. When file information is in the field, change ?INCLUDE TEXT? to ?RD? On a line below all of the file info fields: Select: Insert>Index and Tables>options: select ?table entry fields? to view your TOC select ?ALT-F9? Once all the documents are created, we distill to PDF and either combine all the documents and create go to view links or we create links from the TOC to all documents. I guess with PDFmarks and Word97 features you wouldn't have to manually create the links! We've had really good results with Word using this TOC feature. Sue "Nic Plum" on 03/31/98 01:14:28 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: jim@jimcole.com, thiersch@env-sol.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [PDF] Local Render vs. PDFMaker and Word 97 Headings->Bookmarks I must have selected the wrong reply address! Jim - there are ways to trick Word and save memory. Although I know only WordBasic well I'm sure this has carried across into VBA. One way is to force Word to clear the memory associated with carrying the last 100 actions for undoing. In WordBasic this would look like:- Sub ClearUndoList Dim dlg As ToolsRevisions GetCurValues dlg ToolsRevisions .MarkRevisions = Abs(dlg.MarkRevisions - 1) ToolsRevisions .MarkRevisions = dlg.MarkRevisions End Sub ... which you then call repeatedly after a series of edits or operations on the document. The next stage, in terms of desperation is to save the document as a new document and close the old one down - the new document need only be temporary. The other possibility trading speed for memory would be to store the heading/bookmark information in an external file for later use. This depends on how and when the information is needed. If people have more than a few hundred headings in a document they really either need to consider splitting the document (don't use the Master Document feature - it only aggravates problems!) or better still use an application designed to handle large documents - not Word! In any case do people really read documents that are this large? I suspect they skim them at best and it has to be arguable whether a document this large is really an efficient way of communicating ;-) Nic. _____________________________________________________________________ Buckden, < www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/ > Huntingdon, For information management and Cambs, Adobe Acrobat integration from UK. within your favourite PE18 9SZ wordprocessor _____________________________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Jim Cole To: thiersch@env-sol.com Cc: nic@nplum.demon.co.uk Date: 30 March 1998 18:13 Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [PDF] Local Render vs. PDFMaker and Word 97 Headings->Bookmarks >Tom, someone forwarded this posting of yours to me. Let me address the two points. The bookmark creation problem is not related to Word's outline view; PDFMaker does not use Word's outline view at all. A bug in PDFMaker's code loses track of any headings after the 50th. This bug will be fixed in the next release. > >Even with this fix, if your document has more than a few hundred headings, my testing shows that Word consumes all of the GDI memory heap while PDFMaker is creating bookmarks. So far, I haven't found a reliable way to force Word to free this memory. Thus, it appears that there will be a de facto limit on the number of bookmarks PDFMaker can create. > >The next release may allow the user to specify the zoom type for the various types of links; the feature set for this release hasn't been decided yet, though. > >Jim > > >> >> >X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com >> >X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) >> >Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 15:56:30 -0800 >> >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> >From: Tom Thiersch >> >Subject: Re: [PDF] Local Render vs. PDFMaker and Word 97 >> > Headings->Bookmarks >> >Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> >Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> >X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 >> > >> > >> >There are 2 major problems I've discovered so far in PDFMaker: >> > >> > 1. Bookmarks are sometimes only partially created (or not at all); this >> >seems to depend on the number of headings in the source document. >> > >> > 2. The bookmarks are always created with "Fit width" as the view of the >> >link destination. There appears to be no way to override this at the >> >bookmark level. >> > >> >I would avoid PDFMaker for all but casual, small, documents. >> > >> >Larger documents will have problems with PDFMaker because, as far as I can >> >tell, the macro uses the "show outline" method in Word to isolate the >> >heading levels, much as the previously-available PDF macro by Adobe's Joel >> >G. did. >> > >> >I say "as far as I can tell" when describing the PDFMaker macro because >> >Adobe has "locked" the macro, so one cannot even View it in the VBA editor. >> >This is extremely shortsighted on Adobe's part, since some us might actually >> >want to (and be qualified to) fix it! >> > >> >The problem with "show outlines" is that Word cannot display the outline for >> >very large documents (due to memory limitations or whatever), but the macro >> >(apparently) doesn't detect this and therefore will either truncate the >> >bookmark list or simply fail to create any bookmarks at all. Also, you have >> >to use the standard Word Heading names, or you will likely get no bookmarks >> >unless you have properly configured PDFMaker's "Custom Headings" settings. >> > >> >The second problem ("Fit width" on destinations) is also a real show-stopper >> >for me -- I require bookmarks to be created to my exact specifications. >> > >> >PDFMaker has a lot of nice features, and the price is right (FREE), but its >> >limitations are neither documented nor easily detectable during use. So, >> >use it with caution on small-ish documents, and double-check the results. >> > >> >Tom Thiersch >> > >> > >> > >> >At 06:28 PM 3/27/98 -0600, you wrote: >> >> >> >>I've had mixed results with PDFMaker and Word97 headings getting >> >>converted to bookmarks. I tried this a few times and got no bookmarks >> >>(although I just tried it and it was OK), seems intermittent. I tried >> >>out Local Render and it work flawlessly, although with a little less >> >>control and automation. >> >> >> >>What are other people's thoughts on this. Has anyone else had problems >> >>with PDFMaker? >> >> >> >>Kenny Schiff >> >>Director Corporate Communications >> >>Rauland-Borg Corporation >> >>http://www.rauland.com >> >>kenny.schiff@rauland.com >> >> >> >>+------------------------------------------------------------------- -----+ >> >>+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >> >>+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >> >>+------------------------------------------------------------------- -----+ >> >> >> > >> >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- ----+ >> >> >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >> >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >> >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- ----+ >> > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Mar-1998 17:46:25-GMT,1701;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA27010 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:46:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA19965; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:22:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:20:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA19867; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:20:35 -0600 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:20:26 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199803311720.LAA18668@unlinfo.unl.edu> X-Sender: jnakada@popmail.unl.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: jnakada@unlinfo.unl.edu (Jeanette Nakada) Subject: [PDF] I'm a newcomer to Adobe Acrobat with 2 questions Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 3/31/98 How do I place (perhaps place is the wrong term) a PhotoShop graphic onto a pdf file page--perhaps there are several ways to do this? Also can I set up a fixed page view so that users with Readers within the firm get a consistent page view in all pdf files they look at? Thanks! Jeanette Nakada Production Coordinator University of Nebraska Press jnakada@unlinfo.unl.edu +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Mar-1998 17:49:09-GMT,1612;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA27158 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:49:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA20022; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:23:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:22:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA19972; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:22:31 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.3.16.19980401033248.33bf5a8e@pop1.ibm.net> X-Sender: badai@pop1.ibm.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (16) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 03:32:48 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Marcello Stanley Subject: [PDF] DOS and Win 3.1x - Postscript --> PDF In-Reply-To: <01BD5BEF.6C619DD0@marshall2100.autoiii.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Hi all! are there a Distiller version for DOS or Win 3.1? or should i use PS2PDF (if it got a DOS and Win 3.1 version =) thanks all! Regards, Marcello Stanley ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Mar-1998 18:17:37-GMT,2861;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA28421 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:17:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA21398; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:45:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:44:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21308; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:44:19 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD5CD5.8F621080.davec@docctrl.com> From: David Cornwell To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Local Render vs. PDFMaker and Word 97 Headings->Bookmark Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:39:38 +0100 Organization: Computerised Document Control Ltd X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We haven't yet run up against the problem of documents being too large for Local Render. If anyone has any large documents they would like tested please get in touch with me and I will get you eval software. Thanks drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 641 715 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 641 817 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat -----Original Message----- From: Schiff, Kenny [SMTP:Kenny.Schiff@rauland.com] Sent: 30 March 1998 16:13 To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Cc: 'thiersch@env-sol.com' Subject: Re: [PDF] Local Render vs. PDFMaker and Word 97 Headings->Bookmar ks >> Bookmarks are sometimes only partially created (or not at all); this >> seems to depend on the number of headings in the source >> document. [KS] I've experienced this, and it was hard to tell why. > I would avoid PDFMaker for all but casual, small, documents. [KS] Does Local Render overcome these limitiations? Also, do you think that Adobe is going to address these limitation +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Mar-1998 18:18:40-GMT,2193;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA28499 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:18:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA22343; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:57:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:56:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA22221; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:56:23 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980331175735.00d6cf3c@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:57:35 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] DOS and Win 3.1x - Postscript --> PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 The Distiller that is included in Acrobat 3 will work fine in a Win 3.1 environment. The Acrobat 3 SETUP program will automatically select and install the 16-bit versions of all of the programs. There is nothing available for DOS except the brain-dead Acrobat Reader 1.0. Tom Thiersch At 03:32 AM 4/1/98, you wrote: > >Hi all! > >are there a Distiller version for DOS or Win 3.1? >or should i use PS2PDF (if it got a DOS and Win 3.1 version =) > >thanks all! > >Regards, >Marcello Stanley > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >- >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Mar-1998 18:21:24-GMT,5096;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA28595 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:21:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA21764; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:52:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:51:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21663; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:51:15 -0600 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:51:56 +0100 (BST) From: David Brailsford X-Sender: dfb@quiver To: KMarino@techcent.com cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] SGML and PDF Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Yes -- Cory Snavely has summed it all up very well. If you can archive *both* SGML and PDF versions of a document then in some ways you've got the best of all worlds. But the SGML approach -- of starting with a tagged abstract document -- really wins out if you ever intend to "re-purpose" or "multi-purpose" that document. With appropriate software you could process from the SGML tagged version to create an HTML version, a Word97 version, a PDF version or whatever. Also, the SGML enthusiasts will tell you that a hundred years from now your descendants will not care one bit about PDF's "appearance based" strengths. All they'll want is to "extract the three paras. and a table of gold prices in section 3.1 of the Jan 1998 annual report" and to hell with appearance. If that really is the case then SGML's tags enable a search engine to home in very efficiently and to be sure of what is being extracted. Me -- I'm not so sure. Fine details of layout often convey subtle "meaning" that no amount of abstract tagging can encapsulate. However, digging that info out of an archived PDF document can sometimes be very tricky because PDF, as presently constituted, loses all knowledge about paras. tables etc . It's merely a set of typesetting commands for character strings, lines, half tones and so on. So -- if you're sure you'll *never* have a need to reuse your doct. in radically different ways then Quark -> PDF, Pagemaker -> PDF Word -> PDF or whatever, are perfectly OK ways to generate your docs. But if you also decide to throw away your source codes and archive just the PDFs then it can be devilishly hard to "re-purpose" from a PDF starting point if you ever *do* change your mind. Example: Many typesetting apps. generate PostScript (and thus PDF via Distiller) in what is called "baseline sorted" order rather than reading order. In other words in a multi-column newspaper, baseline sort will go left to right and just "hop over" the intercolumn gutters, rather than going up and down the columns in a left-to-right traverse. Acrobat's text extraction tool can then get totally confused -- so you end up going nuts just trying to reconstitute the reading order as used by humans -- let alone any knowledge of tables, headings etc. Try re-purposing from that! It's a judgement only you can make. Some publishers use SGML as a starting point for all of a document's various incarnations; others patch in SGML file headers only, as an afterthought, in an attempt to aid search engines and databases to home in on the correct doct. The more structured and hierarchical your doct. is (legal, scientific, medical) the more SGML buys you. The more whacky and anarchic it is (e.g. Wired) the harder it is to describe in SGML. The other side of the equation is that a truly multi-purpose aet of SGML tags can be rather like a handy adjustable wrench -- 95% OK as a starting point for almost every job but perhaps not utterly optimal for any one of them. By this I mean that if you equip your SGML with back-end software to turn your tagged text into (say) a Quark output you can bet your boots that the "real typesetting professionals" in your organisation will "Tut tut" over the quality of the generated output and will probably feel the need to wade in and hack the code by hand to tweak kerning, screen settings, colour models, widows/orphans etc. before generating the PDF. Sigh! David B. --------------------------------------------------------------------- David F. Brailsford Dunford Professor of Computer Science e-mail: dfb@cs.nott.ac.uk Dept. of Computer Science http://www.ep.cs.nott.ac.uk/~dfb University of Nottingham Tel: +44 (0)115 951 4251 NOTTINGHAM NG7 2RD, Fax: +44 (0)115 951 4254 UK. --------------------------------------------------------------------- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Mar-1998 18:23:50-GMT,1916;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA28673 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:23:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA22876; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:06:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:06:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22786; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:06:05 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 31 Mar 98 10:07 PST From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <3.0.3.16.19980401033248.33bf5a8e@pop1.ibm.net> (marcello@ibm.net) Subject: Re: [PDF] DOS and Win 3.1x - Postscript --> PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > are there a Distiller version for DOS or Win 3.1? > or should i use PS2PDF (if it got a DOS and Win 3.1 version =) Yes, there are extended-DOS and Win32s versions of Ghostscript that will run ps2pdf. The DOS extender is available from the Ghostscript distribution directories, along with the binaries. For more information about Ghostscript, see the URL below. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html * Oppose bulk-mail abuse of your e-mail and newsgroups: http://spam.abuse.net * +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Mar-1998 18:37:04-GMT,2149;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29258 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:37:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA23289; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:12:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:11:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA23220; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:11:10 -0600 Message-ID: From: Webmaster To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Which Printer Driver to Produce Color? [Frame SaveAs PDF] Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:11:44 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 We're have a problem creating PDFs in Frame 5.5 for Windows using the Save As feature. Our Frame documents use green for headings. They also have icons and screen captures in color. If we use the default setup, the headings stay color in the PDF, but the icons and screen captures (tiffs) go greyscale. We've had a work-around using a dummy QMS Colorscript 1000 printer on file as the target, but it seems that the Acrobat setup should install a driver that works without me having to fake it. Ideas or suggestions? Should I install so other driver/check some other option box? --L __________________________________________________ Len Gilbert InPower Publications LGilbert@InPower.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Mar-1998 18:37:16-GMT,2654;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29273 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:37:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA23561; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:17:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:16:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA23505; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:16:30 -0600 X-Sender: dstabb@mail.pit-magnus.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:26:50 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "David Stabb" Subject: [PDF] SGML and PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 David Brailsford writes: --- begin include --- But the SGML approach -- of starting with a tagged abstract document -- really wins out if you ever intend to "re-purpose" or "multi-purpose" that document. With appropriate software you could process from the SGML tagged version to create an HTML version, a Word97 version, a PDF version or whatever. --- end include --- This only scratches the surface. With large amounts of SGML, a database approach makes the most sense. Take a look at our Target 2000 application, an Oracle-based SGML aware database for content management. While fully capable of managing special formats such as PDF (as a blob- binary large object) using SGML in a database streamlines editorial processes, allows levels of approval and prevents unrefernced pointers, URL is at http://www.target2000.com Brailsford's concerns about the longevity of SGML is not well founded. As an ISO standard, one of the strengths of SGML is that you are NOT in any proprietary format. If you comply with the standard (8879) then data can always be extracted, as long as someone knows the standard. Barring a George Antrobis-like post WW3 scenario, your data is safe. ____|)avid / Progressive Information Technologies David Stabb / 315 Busser Road Director, New Media & / Emigsville, PA 17318 Electronic Products / Information Architects for Publishing +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Mar-1998 19:11:06-GMT,2096;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00688 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:11:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA24811; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:43:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:41:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA24704; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:41:39 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD5CDA.4A0AF560.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] I'm a newcomer to Adobe Acrobat with 2 questions Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:08:04 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Tuesday, 31 March, 1998 18:20, Jeanette Nakada [SMTP:jnakada@unlinfo.unl.edu] wrote: > How do I place (perhaps place is the wrong term) a PhotoShop graphic onto a > pdf file page--perhaps there are several ways to do this? There are a number of ways you might do it, but wanting to do this usually means that you are viewing the Acrobat tools the wrong way. You should normally place the Photoshop graphic into the application you are using to create the PDF document in the first place, and before you make the PDF. > > Also can I set up a fixed page view so that users with Readers within the > firm get a consistent page view in all pdf files they look at? Perhaps you should say in what way they are currently inconsistent... Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Mar-1998 19:11:08-GMT,1609;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00693 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:11:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA24810; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:42:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:41:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA24734; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:41:45 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD5CDA.4C9067C0.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] DOS and Win 3.1x - Postscript --> PDF Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:08:57 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Wednesday, 1 April, 1998 04:33, Marcello Stanley [SMTP:marcello@ibm.net] wrote: > are there a Distiller version for DOS or Win 3.1? Not DOS. Acrobat 3.0 for Windows does run on Windows 3.1, including Distiller. Make sure you have enough RAM - 16M should do it. +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Mar-1998 21:08:04-GMT,1698;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05940 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:08:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA29942; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:28:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:23:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29692; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:23:41 -0600 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:23:32 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199803312023.OAA12184@unlinfo.unl.edu> X-Sender: jnakada@popmail.unl.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: jnakada@unlinfo.unl.edu (Jeanette Nakada) Subject: [PDF] consistent configuration of pages of text Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 3/31/98 How can I guarantee that pages of type in the pdf file will not only be visible but also land on the same place on each page? Some pages have type that is truncated on the left or the right. (PageMaker is the application I am using to generate original files before they are converted into pdf files.) Also, can I make page view (percentage) of pdf pages consistent? Jeanette +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Mar-1998 23:11:55-GMT,1680;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA09954 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:11:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA03053; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:27:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:25:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA02977; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:25:54 -0600 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:31:14 -0400 From: parrott@ADONIS.OSTI.GOV (Felix Parrott) Subject: [PDF] Autolaunch a pdf when Reader is launched To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I'm looking for a way to configure the Reader application to auto load a pdf when reader is launched. In other words, a pdf document would be opened the same time the reader is opened without having the user to go to file and pull down open and selecting a pdf. The file would be preselected to open. Any feedback is welcome. I'm using a pdf doc as a "home" page with links to other pdf files on a cd. Thanks-Felix +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Mar-1998 23:12:07-GMT,2070;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA09970 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:12:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA01156; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:51:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:49:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA01063; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:49:24 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD5CF7.75A58060.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] consistent configuration of pages of text Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:50:49 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Tuesday, 31 March, 1998 21:24, Jeanette Nakada [SMTP:jnakada@unlinfo.unl.edu] wrote: > > How can I guarantee that pages of type in the pdf file will not only be > visible but also land on the same place on each page? Some pages have type > that is truncated on the left or the right. (PageMaker is the application I > am using to generate original files before they are converted into pdf files.) If you export to PDF from pagemaker you should see the exact image of each pagemaker page, truncated only if it doesn't fit on the page (or if the page view doesn't include it). Don't use PDFWriter. Don't Distill EPS files. > > Also, can I make page view (percentage) of pdf pages consistent? Define "consistent". Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Mar-1998 23:25:43-GMT,2902;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10505 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:25:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA04624; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:00:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:59:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA04508; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:59:33 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD5D09.25C26E70.jernej@4u.net> From: Jernej Zajc To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PAGEMAKER Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:23:51 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Scott, there are some resorts from Cobb's journal "Inside PageMaker" at http://www.cobb.com/ipm Journal is aimed at professional users, offering profesional advice from long-time users, with back issues available on the web. Also some PM tips can be delivered weekly via email for free (though they're basically not very profound tricks but rather ones you dig out yourself in a month or two). Bugs & known issues: mail Adobe to techdocs@adobe.com with only number 240099 in subject, leave the body of the message blank. Also, you can search Adobe Support Databases on the website. PageMaker / FrameMaker: as two users noted, FrameMaker is intended for much more intensive tasks and can hadle several 1000 pages. PageMaker is definitely suitable for pubs under 1000 pages. Even when working on a cca 700-page pub it is wise to split it in several smaller pubs and link them in a book. Jernej -----Original Message----- From: Scott M. Albright [SMTP:albrigs@pdgate01.wpafb.af.mil] Sent: Monday, March 30, 1998 6:29 PM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: [PDF] PAGEMAKER We are in the process of purchasing PageMaker to add to our list of software. Does anyone know of a good website that may give me further information dealing with PageMaker? I would prefer one with tips and maybe bug reports, etc... I realize I may not get this, but a guy can hope right? (and please don't refer me to the Adobe page.... not very helpful....) thanks, Scott ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------- Scott M. Albright (LOGTEC) +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Mar-1998 23:30:15-GMT,2340;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10701 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:30:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA04266; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:53:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:52:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA04180; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:51:59 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD5D00.340D1E20.quite@dial.pipex.com> From: Aandi Inston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Autolaunch a pdf when Reader is launched Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 23:53:22 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 On Tuesday, 31 March, 1998 22:31, Felix Parrott [SMTP:parrott@ADONIS.OSTI.GOV] wrote: > > I'm looking for a way to configure the Reader application to auto load a > pdf when reader is launched. In other words, a pdf document would be opened > the same time the reader is opened without having the user to go to file > and pull down open and selecting a pdf. The file would be preselected to > open. > > Any feedback is welcome. I'm using a pdf doc as a "home" page with links to > other pdf files on a cd. Why not turn it around. Using Microsoft's document centric model, you "run" the PDF. This will automatically invoke Reader (or Exchange) under whatever name it happens to have. It's the same idea with links to files from a PDF. Don't try to link to MSWord, for instance, link to a .DOC file. Let the system do its job - you shouldn't have to worry about what program reads what file type, how to start it, what command line it needs, or what to do if it is already running... Aandi +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Mar-1998 23:33:51-GMT,2633;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10848 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:33:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA04713; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:02:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:02:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA04659; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:02:01 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980331230321.00d6d9d4@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:03:21 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Autolaunch a pdf when Reader is launched Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 In Windows, just set up a new program icon to point directly to the PDF that you want to launch. If the Acrobat Reader has been installed correctly, all ".PDF" files will be associated with it, so launching the PDF file will automatically start the Reader. Be sure to set the Working Directory to the CD-ROM drive so that relative path links within the PDF will still work as intended. In Win95, create a shortcut to the PDF to do this. Same holds for Macs, etc. (just slightly different words to describe the same concepts). Tom Thiersch At 05:31 PM 3/31/98 -0400, you wrote: > >I'm looking for a way to configure the Reader application to auto load a >pdf when reader is launched. In other words, a pdf document would be opened >the same time the reader is opened without having the user to go to file >and pull down open and selecting a pdf. The file would be preselected to >open. > >Any feedback is welcome. I'm using a pdf doc as a "home" page with links to >other pdf files on a cd. > >Thanks-Felix > > >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >+ PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + >+ Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + >+------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Mar-1998 23:52:37-GMT,2028;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA11552 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:52:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA04625; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:00:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:59:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA04537; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:59:39 -0600 Message-ID: <01BD5D09.2995E4A0.jernej@4u.net> From: Jernej Zajc To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF Import Filter for PageMaker 6.52 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 00:57:11 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Theresa, yes, it seems Adobe has taken this filter from its FTP site for I can find it no more. It was in ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/pagemaker/win/6.x/filters. Where it is now I do not know. If you're interested I can mail it to you, but bear in mind it is 1263K long so email me to jernej@4u.net before so that we can find out easiest way to split it into easily mailable chunks. Jernej -----Original Message----- From: Theresa Clay [SMTP:Theresa_Clay@ap.org] Sent: Monday, March 30, 1998 4:03 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF Import Filter for PageMaker 6.52 I just went to the adobe site and i can't find this filter either. Jernej, do you have the exact url?? -theresa clay +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 31-Mar-1998 23:59:28-GMT,1423;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA11759 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:59:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA05129; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:10:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:09:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA05060; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:09:35 -0600 X-Lotus-FromDomain: CHAMPION INTERNATIONAL From: "Rick Bishop" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852565D8.007EA883.00@KBNOTES07.champint.com> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:10:50 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Autolaunch a pdf when Reader is launched Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Felix: Why not just point your Acrobat shortcut or alias to the document instead of the application? Or am I missing something? Rick Bishop +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Apr-1998 0:03:38-GMT,2335;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA11928 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:03:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA05039; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:09:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:08:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA04990; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:08:10 -0600 Message-Id: <35217793.3B65FE4E@sirsi.com> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:09:07 -0600 From: "Edward J. Crankshaw II" Organization: Sirsi Corporation - Publications Department X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Autolaunch a pdf when Reader is launched References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 In Windows, if you double click on a PDF file, it should automatically run the Reader or Exchange depending upon what's registered for the .PDF extension. Felix Parrott wrote: > > I'm looking for a way to configure the Reader application to auto load a > pdf when reader is launched. In other words, a pdf document would be opened > the same time the reader is opened without having the user to go to file > and pull down open and selecting a pdf. The file would be preselected to > open. > > Any feedback is welcome. I'm using a pdf doc as a "home" page with links to > other pdf files on a cd. > > Thanks-Felix > > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + > + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Apr-1998 0:13:08-GMT,2456;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12226 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:13:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA05231; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:13:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:13:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA05202; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:13:06 -0600 From: "Luke Muszkiewicz" To: Subject: [PDF] Dynamically Generated PDFs Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:18:29 -0700 Message-ID: <01bd5cfb$50a5ed00$516d729e@inet_1.hln.bdm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 I am interesting in creating a PDF form that can be updated dynamically by populating an FDF file from a database using Bluestone's Sapphire/Web. The PDF itself is simply a personal information form that will contain both text and numerical data fields. Within Sapphire/Web, I have included data sites within the value fields (e.g. /T (first_name) /V (##Sa_FIRST_NAME##) ) in an FDF file. I have it set up so the FDF file is populated, then sent to the browser which calls the associated PDF file which then displays with the dynamically generated FDF data. So far, the FDF is successfully populated, but the browser just displays the contents of the FDF file, apparently the PDF file is not being called successfully. Any thoughts? I would really appreciate a response from anyone who has used Sapphire/Web, but of course any input regarding dynamically generated PDFs would be much appreciated. Please reply to the list or to me personally, whichever you feel is more appropriate. Thank you for your time, Luke Muszkiewicz lmuszkie@tmcom.com +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Apr-1998 1:42:35-GMT,2148;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA15128 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:42:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA09918; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:13:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:11:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA09822; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:11:10 -0600 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 03:08:09 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Autolaunch a pdf when Reader is launched Cc: parrott@ADONIS.OSTI.GOV (Felix Parrott) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Felix, would it be possible to launch the "Home" document? Which platforms are you planning to use? Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch or 100012.44@compuserve.com Bridging the Knowledge Gap ____________ >I'm looking for a way to configure the Reader application to auto load a >pdf when reader is launched. In other words, a pdf document would be opened >the same time the reader is opened without having the user to go to file >and pull down open and selecting a pdf. The file would be preselected to >open. > >Any feedback is welcome. I'm using a pdf doc as a "home" page with links to >other pdf files on a cd. > >Thanks-Felix > +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Apr-1998 4:19:34-GMT,2266;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA19689 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:19:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA15400; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:54:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:51:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA15315; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:51:33 -0600 X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:03:25 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: bfleming@swri.edu Subject: re: [PDF] Dynamically Generated PDFs Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 > ...I have included data sites within the value fields > (e.g. /T (first_name) /V (##Sa_FIRST_NAME##) ) in an FDF > file. I have it set up so the FDF file is populated, > then sent to the browser which calls the associated PDF file > which then displays with the dynamically generated FDF data. > So far, the FDF is successfully populated, but the browser > just displays the contents of the FDF file, apparently the > PDF file is not being called successfully. Any thoughts? I haven't used sapphire web, but a couple of quick things to check for: FDF should be mimetype-encoded as application/vnd.fdf. The "/F" key in the FDF should point to the location (URL) of the pdf form. Make sure there isn't an "/ID" field in the FDF (acrobat puts this in when you export form data - I was doing this for testing...and this prevents population of the form fields, not sure why - i.e. PDF loads, but not the form data) ...also I think you need a "#FDF" appended to the client request for the file... Hope this is of some help, Bob Fleming +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 1-Apr-1998 0:08:57-GMT,1832;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12103 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:08:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA05502; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:20:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:19:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA05437; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:19:08 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:28:49 -0400 To: pdf-l@lists.emrg.com From: "John L. Jones" Subject: [PDF] Digital Signatures Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Sender: Emerge 800-829-2459 Does anyone know of a plug-in that will allow a pdf file to be signed with a digital signature so that the file can later be authenticated by a digital certificate, preferably RSA variety signatures and X509 certificates? Ideally this solution would enable signing of the text and image layers, and possibly the index fields, but leave the balance of the pdf document alone to enable watermarking, annotations, etc. The point is to the sign the basic document in a way that the signer's identity and the document authentication can be proven. John L. Jones Arion Zoe Corp. E-mail: jjones@bookends.com Voice: (813) 254-0055 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + PDF is sponsored by EMERGE, the Acrobat PDF Specialists + + Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://emerge.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html + +------------------------------------------------------------------------+